>that DM that makes it so that hamburgers exist in the setting

Dog bless Ameriga :DD

>>54248618
>play in a setting where hambagahs don't exist
>invent hambagahs
>get rich

>>54248618
But does he give them a fantasy name, like "grilled smerp buns" or something?

>>54248618
Yes, and?

Really I'm surprised sandwiches weren't invented sooner. Maybe it's like the stirrup, such a simple thing yet not created for such a long time.

>>54248618
>Is there access to beef?
>Is there access to cheese?
>Is there access to bread?
>Are there hipster nobles willing to try every little thing a chef will cook at them to make it seem like their palette is more refined than their peers?

I see no issues.

>>54248684
Tons of good ideas just weren't thought before just because.
Some others, like forks, just don't catch on until way later.

Humanity is weird.

>>54248724
>The fuck is a fork?
>It's like a pitchfork, except for your food, into your mouth.
>That seems dumb.
>Yes, but surprisingly effective.
>But it's dumb.

>>54248752
Wait the pitchfork came before the fork? Judging by the name that kinda seems unlikely...

>>54248752
Why would I have a fork when I could use my fingers?

>>54248816
The Old English word for pitchfork was "forca" or "forka", which meant any tool or weapon with tines. These "forks" were used as agricultural tools going all the way back to the middle ages (~400AD). It wasn't until the 13th century that they came to be called pitchforks, which is just a mashup of the OE word for pike or pick and the aforementioned word for a forked implement. Forks for eating did not hit it big in England (and most of Europe) until the 1600s.

>>54248825
So you don't burn your fingers.

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>DM makes it so that you are the hamburger

>>54248618
>that player who grills burgers for the group before the game begins

>>54249333
I have that GURPS splat.

>>54248684
I'm seriously skeptical that brits invented it, people has been eating bread with stuff since roman times at the very least. It's not even called sandwich in most countries unless it has the anglo style or "bread".has

A random brit inventing it is probably a legend that got popular thanks to anglocentrism.

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Mandatory reminder that Kim Jung-Il invented the hamburger.

>>54249490
American hero.

>>54248724
I find it highly amusing that at one point in time the fork, out of all things, was the equivalent of rock'n'roll/TV/DnD/videogames/whatever concerned parents and religious leaders are complaining about nowadays. One of the first written accounts of the fork in Europe was basically "the nobles in Constantinople (or wherever) are so decadent they don't eat their food with their hands like God intended and instead use a tool to pick food from the plate and place it in their mouths". And when the city got ravaged by the Plague people considered it served them right for using forks.
Even centuries later religious leaders opposed using forks because the fork clearly looks like a pitchfork and you know who uses a pithcfork? The Devil, that's who! And besides, if God intended people to eat with a fork and not with their hands, then we'd have been born with forks in place of our hands!

>>54248684
They were invented sooner, putting things between bread is not very new. The only thing is that we don't have a lot of cooking manuals so for finding things about food it's quite hard, but with the internet it's way easier.

For the "it's not new" you have to take my word for it, I don't remember where I saw that and honestly I don't want to research it again.

>tfw my medieval high fantasy setting has pizza, hamburgers, chocolate, coffee shops, cigarettes and trains

Do you even comfy

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>>54248618
I once had a pizza served to my D&D PCs. Fite me.

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>>54248681
Steamed hams

>>54249890
"Pizza" (or at least hot flat bread with toppings on it, which could probably pass for some kind of pizza to modern people) was actually invented by (who else than?) ancient Romans.

>>54250277
Which made it all the more funny to me when one of the players sperged put for breaking his immersion.

>>54250277
>>54250316
Well, but it didn't had tomato which is a quite important part of pizza. Just explain romans and others had bread with stuff on it, which is actually logical, and nobody will sperg. I'm sure there's even an english name for it, if outdated.

>>54248618
You just wanted to post a cute girl eating a burger, didn't you?

>>54248825
How ya gonna eat soup, stupid?

>>54248654
>hambagahs
Why would you call them that? Please give your etymological reasoning.

>>54248716
It's spelled "palate".

>>54248684
Sandwiches were invented sooner. So early in fact that we don't know when or where they were. It's just that specific name that's new.

>>54251627
it sounds cute. CUTE

>>54251627
imagine trying to pronouncing it properly while eating one

>>54249314
Food wasn't generally very hot by the time you actually could eat it before electricity became common in households.

>>54248724
Yeah, if you go beyond really simple tools, there's a lot of technologies that were discovered, then ignored until an environment existed that could support them. Steam is a great example.

>>54249488
>>54249607
>>54251652
I stand corrected.

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>>54248618
But why would you have hamburgers without potatoes

>>54250429
>not having Zwiebelkuchen
>laughing_landsknechts

>>54251663
Why would you call them hamburgers in a world where there's no Hamburg?

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>>54249890
Was it red dragon pizza?

>>54250429
This is kind of the problem with going "STEVE INVENTED PIZZAS." Is flatbread with honey on it a pizza? Is flatbread with cheese and spices but no tomato pizza? What happens when you fold the flatbread? Does it become a sandwich and pizza simultaneously or can it only be one?

I think pretty much every culture to ever exist has stuffed some animal parts into some starchy shit.

>>54250277
While the concept of cooked food served on bread isn't new, the modern conception of what a pizza is didn't exist until after tomatoes were brought to Europe.

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>>54251627
Found the Mother Fucker.

>>54251694
I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's hard to believe considering that fire has existed for quite some time, and cooking anything over a fire so it's ready for consumption leaves it pretty damn hot.

>>54251816
>that girl stuffing the whole hambagah in her mouth
I'm impressed. And slightly terrified.

>>54251847
>not having a city called Hamburg in your setting
>laughingwhores.jpg

Are you even trying?

>>54251975
The few times when peasants ate meat they didn't or couldn't make fires large enough to keep the food warm. Instead it was often just put there long enough to be edible. And even if they had been able to make the food warmer there would have been no point to it as you then wouldn't be able to eat it with your fingers.

Nobles were probably more able to prepare warm meals, but the servants who made the food were often in a completely different section of the palace or mansion, or even in a different building all together, from where the dinner guests were, which meant that the food had ample time to cool down.

>>54248618
Why wouldn't hamburgers exist in "the setting"?

You aren't being very specific in what the setting is

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>>54249488
Accept your place beneath your betters you 'orrible little man

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>>54251546
You want a cute girl eating a burger?

>>54251546
>akko
>cute

>>54251847
"Aye, they be a burg, a type o' dwarven fare. They prefer these more compact rolls down in the mines yeh see. Now th' dwarves usually fill their burgs with mole meat and mushrooms, but this particular type wit th' ground up bit o' beef 'n cheese and whatnot was first made popular in the Halfling town o' Hamshire so the name "Hamburger" just kinda stuck ovah th' years"

>>54249890
That looks like a infected wound with pus.

>>54252431
Reminds you of your mother?

>>54252441
You mom's pussy really.

>>54252431
Only because you think it's missing the pineapple, I wager?

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>>54252291
She is.
But Diana is cuter

>>54252486
Its missing everything. that just flatbread with sauce.

>>54251907
Pizza is basically a kind of toast.

>>54252519
It has cheese, tomato and bread.

>>54252519
>>54252519
American pizzas only have so many toppings because they're low quality and lack flavor. Instead they try to compensate with simple quantity of ingredients which results in a thoughtless mishmash of dulled and conflicting flavors.

European pizzas, and Italian ones in particular, instead focus on quality ingredients. With good tomatoes and mozzarella you don't need put all that other crap on it to distract your mind from how bad it actually is.

>>54252644
Nigger what? The most commonly eaten pizza in America is Bread/Tomato/Cheese/Pepparoni.

>>54252644
>I want to be a snob but don't know what I'm talking about

The biggest difference between Pizza in the states and Pizza in Italy is the bread; most Italian pizzas would be called "Thin crust" by burger standards, and might even be flimsy at that, it's (part of) why they're typically eaten with a knife and fork. You might make a quality-of-ingredients argument regarding the delivery or frozen garbage that bachelor neckbeards cram in their greasy maws that's coated with jalapeno, five cheeses, three meats, and a little more jalapeno because there are people in this world who like it when a plant attempts to deter mammals from eating it, but i you get a pizza at anything resembling a decent restaurant, even a chain like CPK, they're going to use good ingredients whether they're making plain cheese or some fruity everything-but-the-kitchen-sink abomination -- naturally with the degree depending on the quality of the place in question.

We don't have a million topings in a billion combinations because all pizza built like that is low end, we have them because we have a low value placed on culinary tradition and a high value placed on culinary innovation and individual choice.

>>54252811
>>54252644
It's not snobbish pizza behavior, anon.
It's CHILDREN'S pizza behavior.
Kids fucking love plain pizza.

>>54251627
It's an uneducated weeb's romanization of 'ハンバガ’

>>54251627
Because they where named after the inventor - The great Wizard Hambagah.

>>54252811
I've had American pizza, my man. The ingredients were not of good quality.

The strip clubs in my D&D setting all have a spaghetti bar

>>54253023
You might have just had shit pizza mate. There is shit pizza and there is good pizza.

>>54253023
The question is not whether or not the Pizza was american, but what it's actual source was. If you had Pizza hut, of course not, there's no major fast food/delivery place that uses quality ingredients, for any cuisine.

Try eating at better restaurants the next time you're in the states (assuming you're not native)

>Pizza snobs in this thread

Oh boy I am laughing at this eurocuck cringefest. Next you'll tell me the best way to prepare your steak is cooked medium. Are you finished? Aren't you embarrassed yet?

>>54253023
America is many, many, many times the size of any given european country.
There will be some variance.

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>this thread

fitting that I opened /tg/ today as i was eatin a cheebsburgah

>>54253090
American fast food is especially horrendous. Like, people here often say that McDonald's burgers tastes like cardboard, but after attempting to eat at one of their American restaurants I am prepared to say that ours are comparably serving gourmet burgers.

>>54253159
My god, the cyber-future is going to tear your poor digestive system apart when it hits you.

>>54248684
The bread isn't the issue. The minced meat and the sauces are. The first sauce sold by itself was Worchester Sauce. And from there to Ketchup and Mayonaise to whatever the fuck the 'murriburgers put on their burgers nowadays is a pretty large step.
And minced meat for the patties requires specific equipment. You can't just chop the meat like that with a knife, that'll only make a mess.

>>54249557

This made more chortle more than it should have.

>>54253023
This.
Some people even put pineapple on it.

>>54249438
>That player
>Not This player

>>54248684
If you think stirrups took a long time, look into buttons.

Thousands of years and everything was pins and toggles.

>>54248681
[name of a rich trading city]-ers is the only way to name them.

>>54253120
not sure if baiting or retarded Ameriburger

>>54253159
The trick is really to avoid any chain you can get a full meal (Main course, drink, and possibly side) out of for less than $10 -- varying regionally, probably, but it's a decent ballpark. Independent places usually have to be a LOT better to survive against the brand recognition of some place like McDonald's, even if they're still cheap, and the more expensive chains will at least sell you something worth eating. But (for reasons too complicated and likely to trigger a shitstorm to discuss) vast swaths of America are bottom-of-the-barrel poorfags who can't cook and things like McDonald's exist to supply them with calories in a form that will mash the buttons in the lizard parts of their brain that say anything with grease and salt is worth eating. Go to some place like Fatburger and you'll have a better time for higher price. Go to an OK Sit-down and you'll have a better time yet. Happen upon some rare place like The Corral (located in Gardiner, Montana, where they can source their meat -- be it beef, bison, or elk -- from a specific ranch) and you might be pleasantly, rather than horrifically, amazed.

Or, if you're surviving long-term as an american, know how to cook. I can get ground bison, bread, cheese, and desirable condiments at my local supermarket and eat like a fucking king for what some folks pay for shit. The best restaurants will still be better experiences, but I don't eat out very much and for good reason.


... On topic, I see no reason why a fantasy universe could not figure out how to put hot meat and toppings on bread though I have a feeling "period/fantasy hamburgers" would look more like waht we tend to call a Tavern Sandwich.

>>54253023
You ate shit pizza or have shit taste.

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>see this thread while currently eating a hamburger

>>54253120
Medium is the best way.
It basically lets the chef cook it however works best for the seasoning and cooking method.

>>54253023
There's no such thing as "American pizza." Our country is as big as the entirety of Europe. You would not say you had European pizza. You cannot say you had "American pizza."

>>54251596
Not with a fork.

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>>54248618
Akko a cute!
A CUTE!

>>54253692
Just dig up, stupid.

>tfw almost every single country on the planet happily gets on their knees and swallows down American culture, including food, and thanks us for it

lol

>>54253159
Oh yes I will never argue about that, American corporate fast food places have been adding more salt into our food for generations, and the oversees corporate still has to provide some sort of quality as they are more of a niche thing. For instance, compare american kfc to any japanese kfc. I swear they dont clean them ever here in america, we dont like it as much as the japanese like theirs.

>>54253719
Anon, one of the reasons you take american culture is because you can take it standing.

>>54253781
1/4 pound bison burger; Bacon, Avocado, and Swiss Cheese; Lettuce and Mayonnaise optional but recommended (depends on how dry your bun is likely to be and how much avocado you'll get)

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>>54251648
found the hipster noble.

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>>54253617
>toggles
What the fuck is a toggle?

>>54253952

The little stick thingy you use like a button.

>>54253952
A shitty-ass proto-button. Really, it's an oblong solid tag that you can slip through a matching loop to secure something.

You might still see them on... what, ren faire tents? Not a whole lot.

>>54253976
>>54254000

not him but I never new, I always called them shitty buttons

>>54248716
>only white people can be nobles

You're not wrong, but still.

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>>54248618
Joke's on you, he didn't have to, our setting is Boruto-era Naruto universe.

>>54248618
>Steak tartare on a roll.
Not a difficult thing to do.

>>54254197
>only white people can be hipsters

He never said anything about white people. Take your medication.

>>54254197
Are you implying only white people can be hipsters? Because I know several black guys and an Asian chick that would disagree with it.

>>54248618
>DM makes it so that kimchi and natto exist in the setting

Warhammer 40k excluded; we already know Nurgle loves both

>>54248724
>>54248684
>>54248618
..Hamburgers were invented in the Roman Empire, at LEAST. We know because one of the emperors issued a price-fixing decree and later banned them for making the masses too horny.

>>54251847
Burg is a type of food invoving grinding up grains and vegetables together to create a patty for travel food

Someone decided to try making it with meat and putting it between two bread burgs, and used ham as the meat. Er is a plural suffix in the local language where this occured, giving rise to the name ham - burg - er

It became popular and other meats entered the arena but the name hamburger had become so entrenched they were called beef hamburgers or venison hamburgers as the PC culture didn't understand the etymology of the word enough to change it. During this time the bread burgs would 've replaced with buns and the vegetables simply put inside next to the meat burg.

Eventually beef hamburgers so outstripped others in popularity they were considered the "normal" hamburger thus shedding their beef prefix

>>54253684
Disgusting.

>that DM that makes actual hamburgers exist in real life
One of the greatest to pick up the dice. Bravo Nolan indeed!

>>54253684
Then why not just ask for the chef recommendation instead of going medium (rare)? If you gave your own meat preference, don't pretend you order it to give the chef more options. Maybe the chef would rather serve it rare.

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>People in the past had no food culture, we're the most modern and fattest!

I'm almost completely positive that so long as there has been BREAD, there have been sandwiches.

Ye Olde peasants literally would take the stale bread they had: hollowed it out and would use it as soup bowls for the various pottages they'd make. They'd then gobble up the soup and then the bowl along with it after the pottage had softened it up... Or give it to the dog as a special treat if times were particularly good.

I can understand why we have this misunderstanding that historical people were just deprived, no-taste, dirt-farmers who just shove anything they can get into their mouths and don't know or care about cooking, flavor, etc.. And that "delicious" food is a luxury for the rich... But that's never been true?

By that I mean; ordinary people have always been trying to or making food as delicious as possible for themselves since they found out they could throw things in the fire to make them taste better.

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>that DM that tries to insist you that Arby's sandwiches are 'just the same' as a hamburger

>>54256182
I'd really recommend checking out this channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsyjNef2ydQ

>>54253023
>american pizza
>Implying there's such a thing

I live in a city that's only 6 miles square, and I have quick access to 5 separate pizza joints, and they're all vastly different in quality and quantity.

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>>54256198
>spending any amount of time around such a person

>>54256301
that's charming and I want to try it

>>54253023
I've had pizza, my man. The ingredients were not of good quality.

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>>54253120
Why would you ruin good meat by overlooking it, you uncultured swine?

At any rate, when eating someplace where the kitchen staff is competent you're actually retarded if you specify how the meat should be prepared. Let the chef decide that shit. He has a way better eye and understanding for what will make that particular piece of meat taste the best.

>>54257490
>Why would you ruin good meat by overlooking it, you uncultured swine?
Most Americans I know like their meat rare or medium-rare, so he was claiming you're the ones who overcook your food.

>>54257490
>He has a way better eye and understanding for what will make that particular piece of meat taste the best.
Incorrect. The chef has a better eye and understanding for what will best appeal to the lowest common denominator. Some people like their food to taste a specific way, they enjoy it more a specific way. A chef appeals to the most people at once, rather than getting the best result possible for each individual.

>>54257524
That's wrong though.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.maxim.com/.amp/entertainment/steak-cooked-wrong-americans-2017-7

>>54257561
You've never eaten food prepared by a good chef.

>>54257490
Part of me wishes I could enjoy a steak like that. The rest of me is too much of a germaphobe and taps into midwest heritage by ordering everything well done.

>>54257628
>That's wrong though.
Anon said "I know" which means it was anecdotal. So he's technically not wrong, just an idiot.

>>54257490
The steak itself looks good. But all the other stuff is just NOPE. I don't like my food touching other food for the most part. Blame OCD.

>>54248618
>Implying fantasy races wouldn't invent a goddamn hot sandwich

>>54248816
Think about it this way, forks are tiny rather delicate items that essentially do what your hands do (hold onto food). For most (pretty much all) of human history such an item would have been just too outrageously expensive to justify making or owning them. A fork (the farm implement) is an insanely useful tool that is not hard to make and which multiplies the scooping capacity of a farmer many times.

Compare with chopsticks, which were invented thousands and thousands of years ago likely because of their relative simplicity of design and construction, but even then they didn't start being used as eating utensils till the Han dynasty because why stop grabbing food with your hands? Hands are really good at grabbing stuff.

>>54251694
>Doesn't realize what fire is
Please tell me you aren't this stupid

>>54255306
>Steak tartare
enjoy your tapeworms

>>54256182
The most popular recipes in modern cookery, even in high end joints, are typically derived from rustic peasant dishes. I'm shocked the French and Southern Americans don't get along better. The shit they can do with a pig is magical.

>>54257756
>Eat whatever I want and gain no weight
Fucking sweet.

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>>54248618
>that DM that makes it so that hamburgers exist in the setting

So? Somebody decided to put a sensible sandwich in the (assumed medieval) setting. Unless your gripe is that beef is a nonsensical meat in the setting due to the resource costs involved being beyond impractical you should get over it or prod your GM as to how this civilization is able to effectively raise and harvest its cattle.

>>54257673
Bacteria don't generally propagate through muscle fibers - which is why a good steak is safe to eat with just a light sear and why eating raw ground beef will make you dead if you didn't prepare it yourself. The same doesn't apply to chicken or fish, of course, but.

>>54257885
I thought beef was traditionally cheaper than today - or at least chicken, the cheap meat of today, was more expensive and rare.

>>54257885
Learn to into context bro. His image shows a character happy, that implies he is happy with the idea rather than bitching about it.

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>>54257673
How can you say no to something like this?

>>54257932
Are those brined fries? I will never eat normal fries again. They go great with steak.

>>54257490
>Not overcooking

What kind of person enjoys hacking down bloody meat? If I'm going to eat something as pleb as a steak I want that shit charred.

>>54257991
>What kind of person enjoys hacking down bloody meat?
People who aren't plebs.

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>>54257885

>Not playing in a science fantasy setting
>Not playing as the country bumpkin who goes to the arcology for the first time and tries the fast food of the city
>Not putting the country boy charm on the cute chasier girl and suddenly finding a taste for burgers so you can keep seeing her
>Not helping her clear her of her debt and taking her home with you

>>54258030
>She's a replicant

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>>54248618
>DM refuses to make it so that hamburgers exist in the setting

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>>54258048

>She's actually a run-away in hiding.
>You go on a personal quest to save her from being caught and brought back to the factory that built her

Side quests FTW!

>>54253159
what the fuck sort of cardboard do you have over there, that tastes like so much salt and grease

I could come up with many insults for McDonalds, but "lacking any amount of flavor whatsoever" is not one of them.

>>54257932
I will never get this. That probably cost 30 bucks, and it's like the smallest lump of uncooked meat possible, and a handful of fries. You're done eating in 2 minutes flat, and now you have a bunch of redundant other shit on your plate to stare at.

>>54258120
Quality > Quantity

Perhaps I would care for the food more if I wasn't growing up on socialist community canteens, my taste buds pretty much died out back at the elementary school.
It was matter of survival, you couldn't keep down the stuff they were serving otherwise.

>>54258140

Enjoy starving in good taste, faggot.

>>54258232
Shoveling food into your failure receptacle won't make the pain go away

>>54258120
that kind of food is not designed to actually nourish someone, it is designed to show off.

>>54258247
It will make me not be hungry again in an hour.

>>54258277
>>54258232
>>54258120
You guys are doing a great job at reinforcing my preconceived notion that you're all this guy shitposting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAICENCXy3Y

>>54258332
That's very dishonest of you.

>>54258211
>He eat food in elementary school

What a pleb. I refused to eat during those years. When I did it was homecooked food.

>>54258332
>How can I sell less food for more money?
>Let's act really pretentious about it, and say anyone who doesn't go along with it is a fatass, and scum with no taste
>GENIUS!

>>54258362
It's not dishonest, I truly have that preconceived notion and your posts do reinforce it.

>>54258391
No, that you don't revel in eating food that is specifically for showing off, while still espousing eating it.

>>54256198
I like Arby's, but even I know that an Arvy's Sandwich =/= hamburger.

It's a roast beef sandwich with buns. That's it.

>>54258120
Pretty much why I never go to those places to eat. If I'm going to pay 100-140 dollars I want my food to be more then half a plate.

>>54258391

Wow, stay mad skinnyfag. Enjoy being poor and malnourished, lol

>>54258373
Homecooked was not an option, it was either canteen junk or sustaining myself on prana through osmosis.

>>54258474
No, see, you order like 5 plates of 30 dollar a plate food, and then laugh at poor people who can't afford to spend such wastefully large amounts of money.

If you AREN'T doing that, you are doing it wrong.

>>54258405
Who said anything about not reveling in food? There's a difference between enjoying and reveling in the quality of good food and being a tasteless fantasy however.

Even melted cheese is fair game as long as it is consumed with more class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkdYC8L4Fn0

>>54258491
Then don't eat Nigga. I think I spent all my later school years not eating once because I had standards and didn't care to violate them.

>>54258498
>30 dollars a plate
>wasteful

I'd rather order 2 plates for 200 each or something. Having 5 plates to maneuver around sounds annoying as hell.

>>54258605
>Then don't eat
Tried that, it's good for couple weeks but then you start withering.

>>54252340
Underrated post.

>>54256301
Interesting.

>>54258586
Anon, if you wanted to just enjoy food, you could get the exact same plate for significantly less at a diner.
No, you spend more to rub it in. Or at least, you should. If you are not doing it for this reason, consider doing research on finding an appropriate diner near you, it may save you some money, you terrible, terrible poor person.
>>54258605
You should get five either way. A two course meal is awful.

>>54258634
>you could get the exact same plate for significantly less at a diner.
Considering that's a fillet of beef in that picture, no you wouldn't.

>>54251627
Maybe he's a Yankee? Those Northern barbarians have the strangest accents.

>>54258688
You underestimate diners.

>>54258688
Anon, that's called tenderloin.

>>54258704
1) We don't have diners here. People are fully capable of cooking in their own homes. The closest you'll get are lunch offers at regular restaurants.
2) If fillet of beef is cheap you can be sure that the quality is shit.

>>54258745
Actually, quality and price can range quite widely from each other.
I mean, just look at trump steaks.

Though, I didn't realize you were so poor you had to cook for yourself. A pity.

>>54258768
Your making absolutely no sense. First you tell me to stop spending money on food, and now you attempt to berate me for not spending money on food (something which I never said and you just now made up in your head). So which way is it, bud, do I have too much money or not enough?

>>54248618
Thanks asshole now I need to go to Walmart and make some hamburgers, fuck you OP!

>>54258814
I told you to stop being dishonest, anon. If you're poor enough to worry about money, don't go to a "fancy" place, you are being robbed.
If you aren't poor enough to worry about money, you should go to a "fancy" place specifically to rub it in. If you are going for flavor, you are being rumbled.

>>54258745
Wanna know how I can tell you live in a 3rd world country?

>>54258850
You actually are Joey, aren't you?

>>54258880
Diners are pretty exclusively a North American thing.

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>>54258884
You are guessing at the entirely wrong end of the spectrum.

>>54258902
It ain't the diner part that tipped me off, Mohammed.

>>54258930
Reort of the Week, then. Whatever you call yourself.

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>implying the players actually take food quality into account when roleplaying
When I do say "Hey, we're going to be tracking provisions this time", the group just buys as much basic rations as they can afford and survive on them. They'd rather sleep in a chicken coop and live on trail mix than they would spend a nickel on anything more flavorful than the bare minimum. It's fitting when they're at the beginning of a sandbox campaign and have nothing but the clothes on their backs, but having massive amounts of gold pieces in both bullion and assets and still living on rations stretches suspension of disbelief.
Also Marcille is best girl and I don't care what any of you say

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>>54258970
>He doesn't recognize that stallion of a man

>>54258948
>Mohammed
Wanna know how I know that you're wrong?

>>54258989
>having massive amounts of gold pieces in both bullion and assets and still living on rations stretches suspension of disbelief.
Wouldn't say that. Can be force of habit. I've seen upper class entrepreneur living in a mansion size of moderate hotel that would eat plain toast with thinnest touch of butter for breakfast because "that's what they always ate for breakfast".

>>54258474
How did the Quest for /tg/ designed burger go?

>>54258989
Also best pickle press

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>>54259123

>>54259006
Go watch some soccer and dream about what it must be like to have disposable income.

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>>54257915
Yeah my bad. Think I've been here too long since my default assumption when someone makes a post like OP is that they are bitching.

Still curious how most settings justify such things though... I love anachronism but it really makes my autism itch sometimes if there isn't a satisfying answer to why it is.

>>54251596
Pick up the bowl and slurp...?

>>54259206
I'm apparently a structural purist.
That's not something I'd ever thought before. Thanks for this odd thing I now know about myself.

>>54259206
>TFW don't fit at all well on the chart.
Basically I can go neutral in one of the two axes but not both at once.

>>54259206
There's no reason to not call a pop-tart a sandwich. It's literally called a toaster sandwich.

>>54251907
When you fold the flat bread it becomes a calzone.

>>54253542
Garrum you inbred island hick.

>>54248684
sandwiches were invented sooner. Mostly they just weren't credited or described as such, but "bread wrapped around or sliced and holding things" existed before plates.
Rabbi Hillel, Alpha Jew that he was, put horseradish and lamb between pieces of flatbread as a religious rite. It's referred to modernly as "Hillel's sandwich"

Trenchers are basically the same. Sushi is basically the same. It's always been a thing and we just gave credit to this one guy for... reasons?
It's like Columbus discovering America. except moreso.

>>54253542
>you can't chop the meat with a knife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ucCQ63S5g8
It's called mincemeat for a reason you mong

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>GM tries to include a bit of flavor in describing the food you're eating, both in sheer amount and the ingredients
>playing a character that doesn't care what he eats

>>54253007
That's how you'd pronounce it though.

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>>54248618
Hamburgers, Guitars, Oil Lamps, Kotatsus, Adventuring Guilds, all ingredients for my comfy dungeon-delving setting.

>>54252513
DIANA

>>54259206
Does the Double Down count as Structural Purist, Ingredient Rebel?

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>>54251816
>this turns me on
not sure if i should feel even more patriotic or disturbed

>>54258120
The point of fancy food it to foster social interaction. You drink a bit of classy alcohol to drop the inhibitions and get people comfortable, eat some tasty food but it's never enough to keep you from conversing, you just take a little bite in between conversation.

Personally I prefer to eat a large meal in relative silence and talk before eating or talk after eating. The way I see it food is for eating not for conversing over.

Lets all go to Space Denny's for some Space Burgers, Space Fries and some Space Shakes.

>>54253023
>Has eaten every permutation of pizza from a country the size of an entire continent.
>He doesn't make his own pizza.
I didn't think it was possible to be such a plebian.

>>54259340
Exactly this.

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>>54259313
That is fine. Such a situation is interesting. I myself can go for almost anything besides the heretical "Radical Sandwich Anarchy" square though I am leery of SR, IN as well...

>>54261465
I would say no. Despite having breaded chicken act as buns the emphasis is on the chicken. I would also say it is actually Ingredient Purist or Ingredient Neutral depending on whether or not you think a sandwich must have lettuce.

>>54249314
Also, they used knives and spoons as eating implements.

>>54251923
What is pesto? What is garum?

>DM typical fantasy setting
>Party enters an underground dwarven metropolis
>Flesh it out as much as possible, model it a bit on NYC
>Party encounters a dwarf dressed in a crude leather chuul costume handing out flyers for an establishment called chuulburger
>Party visits chuulburger, greeted by a young dwarf with "Welcome to chuulburger, home of the chuulburger, may i take your order?"
>Party dines on delicious chuulburgers made from premium underdark ingredients
>Throughout the course of the campaign, party finds a chuulburger in every major city

>>54262042
Been getting into shadowrun/VTM too much lately, I was expecting there to be a twist on the corporation being evil/something being wrong at the end.

>>54262128
Well, they tend to be able to undercut the local burger joints by virtue of economy of scale. A lot of local mom and pop shops have gone out of business or converted into franchises, but a decent percentage manage to survive by focusing on quality, albeit at a higher price point.

The real advantage of a chuulburger is that even if you are in the next kingdom over, you know what you are going to get, and at about what price (although local market conditions can vary this a bit)

>>54248684
We invented the lighter before we did matches

>>54262324
We had cans before we had can openers.

>>54262364
If it was the other way around it'd be more applicable

>>54255654
Alright I believe you because I looked it up
>A recipe from the ancient Roman cookbook, Apicius, written by an unknown author during the late 4th or 5th centuries AD, details a dish called ‘Isicia Omentata’ made of minced meat, pepper, wine, pine nuts and a rich fish-based sauce (Garum), all formed into a patty.

But why horny?

>>54257704
>I don't like my food touching other food

Your life must be shit.

>>54261772
>The way I see it food is for eating not for conversing over.
Hear hear

>>54261772
I dunno, I can converse pretty well over a footlong chili dog.
Those motherfuckers take an age to eat.

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>>54253672

>>54262504
Pepper was widely regarded as a mild aphrodisiac.

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Am I the only one that never gets tired of hamburgers? There's something always delicious about them to me, even though I haven't had that broad of a variety of burgers in my life. It's like how I haven't yet gotten tired of paladins, in a more /tg/ related sense. And in a world where I'm feeling increasingly despondent towards things and like I'm losing feeling, stuff like that is valuable to me.

>>54263515
its meat in between two pieces of bread
its hard to get tired of something like that

>>54252172
This guy drew a lot more schoolgirls eating hamburgers. Are there stories for all of them?

>>54263542
he also drew more schoolgirls doing other things

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>>54252644
European Pizza isn't going to exist in fifteen years when your weak pathetic race finishes being replaced by Somalians who hate your culture and your food.

History will remember Pizza as American, because there will not be an Italy any more, nor an Italian people, nor an Italian language, nor an Italian culture. It'll be true of everything in Europe. We could claim to have invented Baguettes, Weisswurst and those horrible mayonnaise fries the Dutch eat and in a few decades nobody will be left to contradict us.

>>54258691
Big words from the southern hill-folk

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>>54263846
>American """"""""""""pizza""""""""""""

>>54263846
>European culture
>destroyed by a bit of migration

I know this is hard for 'muricans to understand, since you never had one, but culture is a very resilient thing.

>>54254197
Congratulations, you outed the racist to everyone. It's you.

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>>54253719
>including food
But that's wrong.

>>54257752
The only one who's being stupid is you.

>>54259374
At leat Columbus "discovery" started an actual innovation.

>>54259330
Or a bizarre taco

>>54251975
Generally they'd just wait until it was cool.

>>54264311

Yeah I'm sure you'll be saying that when your population has been replaced by economic migrants.

>>54254255
please tell me your dm did the only inteligent thing and scraped the sharingan from the setting

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>>54263447
>a footlong chili dog
Why would you willingly fill your mouth with garbage?

>>54264290
>implying the average american considers that chicago bread-spaghetti to be pizza.

>>54264620
Consuming the flesh of lesser beasts makes us stronger, no matter how it's delivered.

>>54264311
tell that to the native americans.

>>54263846
>this is what /pol/ actually believes

POTATO
STEW

>>54264290

>make quiche
>call it pizza
'MURICA

>>54252811
>The biggest difference between Pizza in the states and Pizza in Italy is the bread
The resson Americans use such a thick bread for their pizzas is because they need support for all their excess toppings.

Why are they called hamburgers if they are made of beef?

>>54265083
germans like to give hammy names

>>54265083
Because the culinary tradition they were based on was originally brought to America by migrants from Hamburg.

>>54264710
>the flesh of lesser beasts
That thing you call a sausage contains practically no meat at all. I assure you.

>>54253007
ハンバーガー

>>54265270

They introduced hamburg steaks, specifically. A hamburger is a hamburg steak sandwich.

>>54266463
This. This is part of why I inisist on Kosher hot dogs if I am to consume such a dish despite not being remotely related to anyone jewish.

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>>54259206
Where does this fall into?

>>54268432
>Where does this fall into?
If I'm seeing that right, idiocy. Probably SN/IP since I feel the hardcore would say "You're doing it wrong"

If that bread's been hollowed out and stuffed with more stuff, it's a meatbread and probably on SR/IP

>>54268432
My mouth

>>54268516
Anon, if you can down that in one go, I might have a job for you. It will pay handsomely, the work will involve video camera and horses, you do like horses, right?

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>>54268482
What about this?

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>>54249943
kek

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>>54268547
Oh boy! I'm gonna be famous!

>>54264620
Why would you shit on generations of past humanity who ate significantly worse food by calling fucking chilli on bread with sausage "garbage"?

People ate goddamn GRUEL.

>>54269399
Presumably because this thread is full of people that don't know a damned thing about basic food prep, let along nutritional anthropology.

>>54268560
Isn't even covered by Radical Sandwich Anarchy since the contents are not *in* the container.

>>54269673
But this must be something!

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>>54270320
>>54269673
Shit, forgot an image

>>54270736
Saussage and egg in broth and a bread bowl, probably could be called a sandwich by someone in Radical Anarchy. I feel as though such men are few and far between, however. and most should have the good sense to recognize it for what it is, which would be more some variety of soup than of sandwich, owing its liquidity, and correctly identify the bread bowl as an edible piece of crockery.

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>>54268432
Hell.

>>54269399
Because both that chili and sausage is guaranteed to be 100% garbage unless you've made both from the ground up.

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>>54272911
>Says modern man who hasn't subsisted on gruel

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>>54258085
McDonald's burgers actually do lack flavor. The only thing on them that even come close to providing a resemblance to it is the sauce.

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>>54252513
Diana ate all the burgers

Wat do

>>54272999
I occasionally eat gruel. There is tasty gruel. It gets a bad rap.
McDonald's burgers can be reasonably satisfying but ultimately they're very bland and are bad for your digestive system. Unlike gruel, which does it wonders.
https://youtu.be/LuVjjF-c7K0

>>54273089
Fucking die, fat enbaler

>>54273089
I like fat chicks, but I agree with >>54273179

Die.
Keep your fucking fetish under control.

>>54252513
>>54253698
Diana is a Divine
Akko is a cute
Suzy is for Lewd
Lotte is patriotism

>>54263846
2/10 LARP

>>54269673
air is an ingredient

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>>54273646
>Suzy is for Lewd
You have no idea.

>>54264492
Unfortunately no, Sasuke and Sarada still live, but they're not involved much in what our characters do at all. He did scrap edo tensei, though.

>>54251660
you're cute. CUTE

>>54251816
>that one burg with raw bacon on it
A burg where the toppings slide out when you bite them is a bad burg. With eggs I can understand accidentally undercooking them for a burg and having the yolk go everywhere, because you don't want to overcook them and have a dry gross yolk, but if your bacon's a bit crispy it's no tragedy. Adds texture.

>>54253023
American pizza varies a lot from neighborbood to neighborhood, let alone city to city. Pretty much the only universal constants are pizza hut (great if you like grease and heartburn), papa johns (small and overpriced) and dominos (just generally shit), which are all big soulless franchises like mcdonalds or walmart. Otherwise there is no "american pizza," it's all different. I've had some really good fucking pizza and some pizza that tasted like it was made in a toilet with flour that had gone off, within a few blocks of each other.

Anyway, don't italians just slap some garbage on a square crust and call that a pizza? We call that prison* food here. *also served in hospitals and public school cafeterias

>>54257628
That's a bullshit statistic biased heavily by coming from one kinda shitty chain frequented by trashy people. I have no doubt that most americans have shit taste, because most people have shit taste in general, but come on, "people that eat at longhorn steakhouse" is not exactly a fair sample population for how Americans like their steak.

>>54263515
I usually eat about one a day, they're my main form of sustenance. Make em a little different every time. Eggs, onion, tomato, spinach, sliced olives, different kinds of pickles, raspberry jam, bacon, cheese, I put pretty much any moderately popular topping but avocado on to keep the taste novel and add to the nutritional value. Not all at the same time, of course, and the only condiment I'll use is spicy mustard, and sparingly at that.

But yeah, I've yet to get tired of burgers.

>>54275092
>don't italians just slap some garbage on a square crust and call that a pizza?
No.

http://www.pizzanapoletana.org/public/pdf/disciplinare%202008%20UK.pdf

>>54258120
>>54258232
>>54258277
>>54258310
You guys are just proving yourselves to be immense fatasses. Those are reasonably sized portions.

>>54253023
>all pizza in the US are exactly the same in quality and taste

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>>54253120
>wanting anything but rare meat
You digust me.

>>54275092
>sliced olives on a hamburger
A little strange to me but understa-
>raspberry jam
What

>>54248716
>willing to try every little thing a chef will cook at them
Pretty sure that's just being an adult

>>54276390
Or being a fop more concerned with status than with safety when you get served a hunk of troll meat riddled with fungus in order to increase its flavor, or if you're served [insert noble's race here] meat because the chef didn't name it but said it was exquisite.

There is a difference between not being picky with your food and eating your vegetables, and being willing to try anything as long as your chef made it and it makes them look refined and above others.

>>54276460
anon I'm pretty sure there is a difference between being picky with food and having a chef that is actively trying to kill you

>>54276520
Maybe not actively, but it could be the fantasy equivalent of badly prepared fugu. Or some other level of corruption or depravity.

I just think it's unfair to assume that eating everything put in front of you is a sign of being a big boy grownup, and pointing out how far that example can go if you ignore why people will refuse some foods entirely.

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>>54248684
The biggest complication was cutting bread neatly, something which was hard to do until someone invented the bread knife. THat made the idea popular.

>>54264204
>Big words
>Southern hill-folk
I don't buy it.

>>54252811
>and a little more jalapeno because there are people in this world who like it when a plant attempts to deter mammals from eating it
I like to flaunt my status as an apex predator. Keeps those goddamn chlorofucks in line.

PROTIP
The best places to get pizza in America always have a first name in the name, and no less than 3 Italian flags on the takeout menu

>>54277188
What if it just has a letter and then Pizza?

>>54257840
Quick weight loss here I come!

>>54248618
> slice a bun in half
> put all that is left from the dinner inside
Here's your humbugger

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>>54248618

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>the DM makes it so that hamburgers no longer exist in a modern setting, but they don't take out McDonalds

>>54277188
Not a bad rule of thumb but the best pizza I've encountered in america was called "Wild West Pizza".

In a big city, though, you should get better than average by following those rules.

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>>54252811
>there are people in this world who like it when a plant attempts to deter mammals from eating it
found the elf

>>54259325
>radical sandwich anarchist

>>54248752

The fact that the Romans invented the fork only to get rid of it by the end of the empire will always be hilarious.

>>54259325
No they aren't you mong. They're called "Toaster Pastries" even on the damn box

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>>54252644
>>54252811

>Europoors getting buttmad that Americans have perfected the pizza

>>54273147
>I ate modern gruel, it was good
You didn't eat gruel then, you fucking hipster.

>>54275504
There's barely 400, maybe 500 calories in that.

>>54257932
>Filet
>Inches thick
Jesus christ, what shit chef made this?

>>54279065
Anon, just from the thumbnail of that video I can recognize it's from Jas Townsend and Son, a channel of extremely dedicated 18th-century recreationists. That's hardly "modern"

>>54279166
Also, believe it or not, people of all time periods have preferred not eating garbage

>>54279074
500 calories is a meal, you fucking landwhale.

>>54279245
>I snack all the live long day because I do not get enough calories in a meal
Some of us don't survive off of chips and candy and soda like you, apparently.

>>54279259
>Some of us are highly overweight
ftfy

>>54279166
>It's authentic, I just made it with modern ingredients and didn't include large portions of inedible filler like they would have in the day due to abject poverty
Sure, anon. Sure.

>>54279265
Nah, I'm at average BMI. Maybe slightly on the heavier side of average.

I can do this because I eat meals totalling to 2,000 calories a day, like a human, and I don't snack on chips and soda all day like you do.

>>54279245
A healthy adult male has to eat about 2500 daily just to maintain his weight. If you think you eat less than that and aren't very thin, very short or most likely both you're probably wrong

>>54279245
Manlet detected.
Doesn't even have a single gain.

>>54279267
>modern ingredients
Don't have the time to actually watch the video, but usually not. On that channel, they go as far as getting heritage strains of certain crops for added historical accuracy. They don't use modern ingredients on more than a occasional basis and only on their very earliest videos

>>54279320
>They get the ingredients!
>They don't use a fourth ingredients, three fourths whatever bullshit they can find because they are starving

>>54272911
>100% garbage
Well, except for all the digestable material.
And all the beans.
And the bread.
And the government required minimums of meat in the sausage.

>>54279329
Historically average people weren't eating like that all the time unless there was an actual famine going on

>>54279245
Only if you are very short, or are snacking quite a lot to assist with your 1,500 calorie a day setup.

Also if you do absolutely no physical labor or exercise.

>>54279364
So you're only shitting on all the generations that had to deal with famine?
Such an improvement.

>>54279245
It's a small meal - I'm willing to be forgiving because I know that not every meal is going to be the same size, especially across different cultures, but that is not what I would consider a late in the day 'dinner' meal. That is a fancy light lunch, something to enjoy more for the taste than the nutritional value, something I would enjoy with a friend for the experience rather than dinner, where I would tend to try and eat enough that I don't feel the need to snack in the evening or night.

>>54279385
>that is not what I would consider a late in the day 'dinner' meal
Dinner is exactly the one meal where you don't, and shouldn't, eat something big.

>>54279374
Famines normally don't last more than a couple years in an absolute worst-case scenario. Even at the worst time periods a peasant was going to eat relatively well more often than not

>>54279401
And that somehow excuses you for shitting on all the generations that had to deal with famine?

>>54279429
>shitting on
You're an honest to god and incredibly cringey retard. I just want you to know that.

>>54279397
Look anon, I know you've been pushing the large breakfast small dinner thing, but it just isn't taking.

>>54279429
What I'm saying is that your view that the average person eating unpalatable gruel composed significantly of inedible materials was the rule throughout the majority of human history is overly pessimistic, nothing more

>>54279463
You should be cringing when someone points out how incredibly spoiled you are, yes. That is the appropriate response.
>>54279473
>It's pessimistic to assume the worst gruel
>But I will assume the worst chili
So in addition to shitting on the past, you are a hypocrite?

>>54279483
>I will assume the worst chili
Only as long as Americans are the one making it. And Americans are the only ones who would ever decide to make something as disgusting as a "footlong chili dog".

>>54279502
Ah, so not only are you a spoiled hypocrite, you are ignorant of the scale of America.

>>54279524
Not at all. I just would never buy any form of food product that was produced in your country.

>>54279568
And that confirms the ignorance as to the scale of America. Good work.

>>54279568
Actually, you probably do.
America's massive corn overproduction is forcing corn syrup into the cooking of places around the world. It's a real problem.

>>54279612
Good thing I live in a country where all food products must state exactly what they contain then so that people don't have to eat that shit.

>>54279641
So... any western country, America included?
I don't understand why you are using jingoism when confronted with the very real problem of too much corn syrup.

>>54252340
this is now canon to my setting

>>54256301
Townsends is a wonderful channel, the guy who hosts those videos is so enthusiastic and charming

>>54279397
But that is the meal that tends to have the most effort put into it where I live - the meal that, if you're visiting family or some such, tends to have the most variety of foods, an emphasis on having a number of different foods. It's lunch and breakfast that are the lighter meals, the former because it's usually partway through chores or work, and the latter because there's more of a hurry to start the day.

You can also justify it a little further by it being the last meal of the day, where you won't eat anything again until breakfast the next day unless you snack. It's the time of relaxing and unwinding and really getting to enjoy your food, and a fair amount of it, in a way that you don't get time to do otherwise. Or at least that's how my part of the world views it.

This is fun thread. I like this thread. I needed the laughs, thank you, you glorious fags.

>>54279292
>500 calories per meal
>Five meals a day
The math checks out. Why are you overeating?

>>54280554
What are you, a fucking hobbit?