Infinity General: Varuna Incoming Edition

REMOVE NOMADS remove nomads

>>54248601
>>54248748

Because pan0 surely needed yet ANOTHER boost. Might as well declare them the 'winners' again.

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rate my monkey lady

>>54248857
That's a nice monkey lady.

>>54248821
It's not another boost, it's the new sectorial most likely.
I doubt Kamau will see much play outside Varuna even after the update. Unless they are super mega OP I doubt we'll even see that much play from them in sectorial, unless Varuna does not get Fusiliers after all for some reason. It is going to be the Cutter sectorial.

Im expecting varuna vs tenguska box

>>54248951
If that would be true... All those who started with Icestorm would throw money so fast at them it would burn up mid air.

Varuna Amry Pack is more likely though.

>>54248899

Its probably the Wotan mission, where the nomad zone just so happens to be flooded for some reason. Easy pickings for pan0.

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Also new Snipershot. Looks like Muyib's vest.

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Varuna ORC bump.

I for one am looking forward to the alleged Varuna Immediate Intervention Division pack. If a helot gets modeled that'd be great.

Also, yeah I'd think a Tunguska vs Varuna box would indeed sell like hot cakes and have piles of money burn from the friction induced of all the consumer cash being thrown at it, figuratively of course as we mostly use credit cards these days.

>>54248821
What kind of classic Infinity complaint is this. PanO's been kind of weak/bland these days with other factions like Yu Jing, Nomads, and Haqqislam getting more flavorful units with special equipment.

>>54249039
If Muyibs get a resculpt box I'd be like "Oh, shit, waddup" and start Hassassins with my new Ayyar and not so new Muttawi'ah. Haven't played that sectorial because I don't particularly want a Ghulam core, nor do I want to buy Govads, and Muyibs are kinda ugly for the fireteam I'm most interested in.

Furries need to be removed from the setting.

>>54249300

>pan0
>'weak'

Maybe CB should stop with the favoritism and make them pay for all the cheap BS boosts they enjoyed these past 10 years instead.

>gencon release going to be PanO sectorial #4
th-thanks cb

>>54249867
Don't worry, it'll include Kamau which are otherwise Bolt equivalents and not fusiliers so you'd be left with a lot of players with a sunk cost fallacy trying to defend their core unit sub-par for the price, like how Bolts have Bio-immunity, movement 4-2 Kamau have X-visors on LGL + likely to be included in the box, BTS 6, and Aquatic terrain which it doesn't need. I mean, at that price of 16 points you can get Myrmidons which have ODD, Unidrons with K1 combis, the general FO Sensor Remote, etc stuff with neater equipment.

But hey, BS 13 on a LI unit is mad decent when linked.

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Stop playing Military Orders.

>>54249771
Criminals should be outlawed while we're at it. That will surely be effective.

The genetic engineering for it is only found on bakunin back alleys where real laws can't touch it and werewolves are disliked. It's just gotta be something you live with.

>>54248857
I've seen better, I've seen worse, I'd put it very slightly above average quality although the picture at this size. angle, and lighting, isn't particularly flattering. Shoulder looks kind of messy and the white kind of thick and flat.

I'd put it at a 6, maybe up to a 7 out of 10 personally. Enough to pass, but not quite "wow" me.
Basing could use some extra work, doesn't look finished.

Other points for improvement:

>leaving whites to be mostly an off white, like one level down from white and highlighting the extreme edges with pure white.
>Shading of the hair behind the head
shading near the shins

points for commendation:
>I like the way the skin was painted
>cloak and straps

I don't mean to sound like a total critic. Thanks for posting. I like seeing people's paint jobs. Post more if you can later.

>>54250418
Thank you, I'll take the criticism on board

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beyond starter sets bringing them up to 300

>>54251281
PanOceania:

1x Kamau, Amphibious Intervention Teams (HMG)
1x Swiss Guard (HMG)
1x NeoTerra Bolts (Paramedic)

Nomads:

1x Hellcats (Spitfire)
1x Intruder, Corregidor Assault Commandos (MULTI Sniper Rifle)
1x Kriza Boracs, Tunguska Crisis Special Unit (MK12)

1x Authorized Bounty Hunter (2 Breaker Pistols) RESERVATION EXCLUSIVE

>>54251281
Yu Jing:

1x Daofei (HMG)
1x Zhanying Imperial Agent (Breaker Combi Rifle)
1x Guilang Skirmisher (MULTI Sniper Rifle)

Haqqislam:

1x Tarik Mansuri (Spitfire)
1x Hassassin Fiday (DA CCW)
1x Hassassin Ragik (Boarding Shotgun)

1x CSU (Breaker Rifle) RESERVATION EXCLUSIVE

>>54251304
>>54251319
These sound pretty good from a tentative first look.

But, given that a lot of these profiles already have models I'm a little worried it's not all new.

If there's a Daofei and Guilang resculpt that's partly easy to convert I'd consider it an instant buy.

AFAIK Ragik doesn't have a BS model, Fiday doesn't have a CCW posed model with no visible gun, Tarik Mansuri has a Rifle+LSG not a spitfire, hellcats have HMG, Hacker, Combi, ADHL, and no Spitfire, Bolts don't have a dedicated paramedic profile like that Caledonian, and Zhanying just have a dedicated hacker and ML so my hopes for Intruder, Daofei, and Guilang models are high.

>>54249823
Those boosts ARE paid for. Its why Orcs and Bolts sre mad overpriced. Unless you think an Orc is somehow equal to a Ayyar.
Thats not even including the faction penalties like few interesting bits of gear.

>>54251778
This. Like how Guarda de assaulto costs over fifty despite having pretty rubbish stats otherwise and no special skills or equipment beside his buddy bot (and D-charges)

>>54249300
Muyibs are the best Hassassin core as I gather. Govads don't even come close.

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>>54250141
Kamau Core will only be played if Fusiliers are mad limited, like in MO. Their limit is the only reason why Sergeants Core is sometimes played. Even with being a super cheap BS13 platform, Kamau are nothing to write home about and the main event of every list is going to be Cutter.
They're okay, but a bit costly (proving that guy >>54249823 wrong).

>>54251304
That PanO set is predictably overcosted and terrible.
The Nomad is better, though I'd have to see what Kriza Boraks do first.

I might still get it, as I don't have an HMG Swiss or MSR Intruder models. Although I already have 4 Hellcats...

>>54251319
Wait, why is CSU in the Red Veil pack? Shouldn't it be in the Icestorm one?

>>54251319
>>54251304
Shouldn't the CSU be with Icestorm (and thus the only faction that could field them: Neoterra) and the Bounty Hunter with Red Veil (and thus the faction that can field them in a sectorial: ISS?

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I wonder how they'll advance this design.

>>54252083
They're supposedly S5 now.

>>54252039
Gotta grab all the exclusives...

>>54252039
LoL. CB loves to package the shit that you don't want with the shit that you do want to get the oldfags to keep buying more shit. They want oldfags to have extra shit to get the newbies hooked.

>>54251778
So besides D-charges, heavy flamethrower, Eclipse grenades, then the Auxbot on top nothing special then? Losing a couple of points of ARM is very acceptable and BS has always been better than WP on doorkickers. Watching the smokes miss 1/3 times is frustrating, but there just aren't so many units that can close down an L/MI link team so well then chase the spitfire with a shotgun. I do think they're marginally overcosted, but not for the awesome skillset, just because (like Teutons and Asuras) they still have that legacy costing from back when they had a MOV advantage. But hey, if everyone's taking missile/sniper links, Guarda delivers

>>54251304
>>54251281

Is this legit? Getting spitfire hellcat and space russian big guy is awesome. New bolt yaaaay...ffs locust pls cb.

>>54252774
Yeah, I don't mean they're bad, but if you start to compare them to other "toolbox" HI's, say, Ayyar, the cost is rather high. I guess it may be the case of old prices, as bar Fatherknight all the HI has only had some minor adjustments since N2.

>>54253228
>Is this legit?
Probably. It's how the F¥¥ box was spoiled in a very similar fashion. Also bear in mind last year Beasts of War released their video about Infinity's Gencon models too early as well.

I'm just praying to various deities that the Yu Jing releases are new sculpts and not the ugly old ones. Breaker Zhanying's ok, but I don't know what they were thinking about the Multi-Sniper Guilang (besides maybe making some imaginary quota of a useless/debatable sniper per starting army), and the HMG Daofei should've been the Spitfire which is both a Lt option and more easily supplemented by its Camouflage and infiltration.

>>54251319
>Daofei spitfire
>Zhanying madtraps
>Guilang hacker
>not
FFS, CB.

>>54247074

Missile Launcher fires outside of the HMG's range.

You are comparing HMG vs ML against a target in cover w/ a Rifle. I'm talking about a ML firing at a target w/ a HMG.

Also, could you show me the math on those odds of wounding? Because 3 instances of 13 damage seem to be better odds of hurting than 3 instances of 11.

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>>54253795
Yeah, Yu Jing really got the short end of what would've been a nice stick. I hope the Swiss Guard and Daofei remain girls at least.

>>54252083
Those look awesome.

>>54253928
Wonder how them and Blue wolves come out (the Yu Jing Svalarheima TAGs on the background)

>>54254128
IDK, I read somewhere that the Blue wolves stats they play-tested were OP, because it was a light TAG with HRMC and frenzy, so they had no plans to make them soon and/or retconned them to a named Squadron of Guijias stationed on Svalarheima.

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So anon you heared the call.
When will you enlist?

>>54254663
I came for the kilts but I stayed for Uxia.
Then I came again.

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>>54254766
I can't masturbate to this.

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>>54254776
Wuss.

>>54254854
>this is 10/10 in Corregidor

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If a cat can't cross your table without knocking over any terrain you're setting up way too dense.

>>54257074
Trick statement, the cat will knock over any terrain on the table because that's what cats do.

>>54257240
If he did that they wouldn't keep him in the shop.

Is Vedic ALEPH still in release purgatory?

Where is the info about the Varuna Sectorial dropping coming from? It's not the same as >>54251281 is it? I was promised a Vedic Aleph Sectorial and I don't like the idea of being cockblocked by these fish sticks.

>>54257733
>>54257891
Last anyone heard, they should all be dropping in the next major book release for Infinity. It's supposed to be a revised Paradiso Rulebook and come with 1 sectorial for each playable faction.

>>54258217
>come with 1 sectorial for each playable faction
Which is also a lie because frogs and Shasvastii are supposed to be redone in lieu of a new Sectorial.

>>54258313
Not so bad given ariadna and EI both have 3 sectorials

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>>54239049
My own version

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>>54258388
Small fix of some pixels

>>54258313
Hey man I didn't say they were new sectorials.

>>54258313
They got Onyx and USARF early.

>>54259712
Oh, well then perhaps it's possible we could get both Varuna and ISS. Does anyone remember when OCF and USARF were released?

>>54260423
>ISS
I meant OSS.

>>54251778

>conveniently choosing the exceptions to the rest of the mad cheap faction

>orcs are actually cheap compared to other 'standard' HI, their eventual fireteam would be ludicrously insane

>of course no one plays bolts when there are plenty of cheapass fusiliers/auxiliary spam to power the aquila/swiss cheese instead.

>>54251902

Pretty damn cheap when he can pump 3-6 shots at high BS, with 2 of them unopposed assuming a single target.

>>54251988

order sarge specialists/non-core attackers aren't even bad, and most MO playas use mag knight teams anyway. The kamau would no doubt get even more cheap stuff regardless.

>>54260557
N2 was years ago dude. Get with the times, it's Tohaa that get the crazy bullshit nowadays.

>>54253795
>>54253916

DaoFei HMG can plausibly be passed off as the spitfire assuming the gun is tiny, ZhanYing has breaker rifle as standard so there is a chance of 'traps, and getting a new mediocre sniper is just a dick move though alongside the CSU instead of ABH.

>>54260846
Cutting the barrels off Guilang snipers to make them useful is a proud tradition, I see no reason why it should stop.

>>54260846
The new Yu Jing HMG is about the same size of the Spitfire, gone are the days of the massive tube gun. I don't know why people are complaining about the Zhanying. The Madtrap, Sensor, LT, and Haris options are all Breaker Rifle. Between that, Hacker, Missile Launcher, and Hsien, the Haris can finally be made without tons of proxies. MSR sculpts are great because you can just saw off the barrel and nobody is going to yell at you for your new rifle miniature.

>>54260557
>orcs are actually cheap compared to other 'standard' HI, their eventual fireteam would be ludicrously insane
U wot m8? Other standard HI would include Brigada, Janissary, Wu Ming or Zuyong. They are all much cheaper than ORC. Even PanO's own Hospitallers are cheaper than ORC. ORC links are never going to be a thing, no matter what CB tries to tell us.

>Pretty damn cheap when he can pump 3-6 shots at high BS, with 2 of them unopposed assuming a single target.
50pts for an ARM3 guy is always going to be a lot. Especially as for the same price you can get an ARM5 guy without a buddy bot and slightly lower BS.

>>54261485
Orcs are pretty similar to Brigada overall. I'd put Suryats and Shang Ji in that category too. Orcs can't stand up to the real good HI links like Wu Ming and Jans but they're not too terrible, especially since they're likely to get their own ML/HRL profile to mirror the other standards.

ARM ain't shit though. I don't know why people think of ARM3 HI as fragile when they still have the far more important 2 wounds. 5-10% less chance to wound from non-crit hits isn't that big of a deal, not compared to things like the buddy bot that help you to not get hit in the first place. ARM5 is only a small part of the Father Knight's appeal, that BTS9, AHD and to a lesser extent assault are what really do it.

>>54261485

Those hospitallers knights have that frenzy bonus which makes them way cheaper then they should be (not the only example in game), and the other examples have to cut down on other stuff/stats as well.

And really, a unit capable of dishing out 5-6 shots (2 in ARO) at BS 15(!) per order is still a bargain at 50ish pts.

>>54261485
The buddy bot actually puts him into really elite territory when it comes to lethality, on par with the Swiss. There are like no good choices for an enemy when it swings around the corner with the combination of the LS on the bot, heavy flamer on the Guarda, and whatever gun it it has in its hands.

>>54263815
Yeah, but that is pretty much the best case scenario. At that point you're burned several orders and managed to get close. Pretty much the only smoke in the faction is hard to ignore, though.

>>54262457
>specially since they're likely to get their own ML/HRL profile
Until that happens ORCs will remain where they are. And neither profile has been hinted at officially. For all we know they could get a Spitfire, combi + auxbot and MSR.

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>>54249300
>not running HI heavy Hassassin's with 4 man Asawira link and dual Ayyars

It's like you don't even want to inflict fear into the enemies of Haqqislam!

>>54257074
Cool cat statue, where did you get it?

>>54264645
Asawira are kind of ugly too, and they don't even have a core link.

>>54262673
>(not the only example in game)
cough cough riot grrls

>>54260846
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. Roughly 100% of the time, that Daofei HMG will be a spitfire or Multi-Rifle to the point that my opponent will forget that it ever was an HMG.

>>54260557
>orcs are actually cheap compared to other 'standard' HI, their eventual fireteam

Mobile Brigada say hi at roughly 3 points less but with +1 WIP and -1 BS and LFT on multi-rifle options

Janissaries say Hi at -4 points and +2 WIP -1 BS

Asawira say hi with Regeneration, MA L2 (read: stealth), +6 CC, BTS 9, Nanopulser, Shock CCW, and a mere -1 armor for the same points cost.

Shang Ji say hi at -1 BS and adding Kinematika + Shock CCW, +3 BTS, and +3 CC. (This is one where I consider the direct comparison in favor of the ORC as the ORC has better looking models and less competition)

Which isn't to say that the Wu Ming don't say hi with the various crazy loadouts to boot all roughly 5 point cheaper

You win the round with Suryats, as they're 4 points more expensive due to Vet and RT.

And those were just the armor 4 comparisons mostly.

Zuyong, Haramaki, Riot Grrrls, Magisters, Crane Rank mixed links, and others still exist.

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>>54265136
Wait, fuck, am I going crazy? Asawira did have core link at some point right? I thought Zhanying had a core link for fucking ages too.

>>54265200
Yeah, they both lost it in HSN3.

>>54265136
Im actually curious about that morat pricing. Is it a cheaper veteran thanks to religious?

>>54265136
Asawira also have frenzy and assault.

>>54265136
Asawira have frenzy so that fucks up any talk about them.

For the more directly comparable ones, I've got the base combi price for each unit. Using Mobile Brigada as the point of comparison:
>Brigada: 34
>Orc: 36 (+2 points for +1 BS and -1 WIP)
>Wu Ming: 31, or 30 for newer profiles (-3/4 points for -1 PH)
>Janissary: 32 (-2 points for +1 WIP and religious troop)
>Shang Ji: 36 (+2 points for +3 BTS, a small CC boost and a shock CCW)
>Suryat: 36 (+2 points for -1 PH, +3 BTS and the Morat skill)

As you can see, this shit makes absolutely no sense. I can only assume that Jans were based heavily around the AP rifle+light shotgun combo and are cheaper for that reason, but it's still fucking weird. I can't even think of an excuse for Wu Ming getting cheaper.

>>54265266
The pricing of the morat rule is decided via dartboard. I tried figuring it out a while ago, don't try.

>>54265565

No cubes or something to that effect.

Put up a fearless aura and let's take Raxora!

So I've been away from Infinity for a long-ass time, picked up a Wildcat that I intend on converting into Felix and a copy of Outrage.
Is Knauf any good for a Nomad player to take?

>>54266926
He's good to replace a Grenzer, but definitely no replacement for an intruder, who's more solid overall with full camouflage and MSV2.

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When playing a Morat Agreesion force how Agreesive should i be playing?
do i play the objective or go all out on kills?

>>54267430
Kill as much as you can, especially specialists.
Once you've secured the way, make an objective run.

>>54266926
>that I intend on converting into Felix
Let us know how it goes.

>>54265565
YJ is the HI faction?

>>54267956
Trying to find something I can turn into the shotgun and probably greenstuffing the ears and tail are gonna be the hard parts, I think. Statuesque do a nice line of heads and one has the Felix hairdo.

>>54268040
Greenstuff ears/tail aren't that bad to do at all. Made some for my Daktari, which I still need to finish painting.

>>54268040
The easiest to use Nomad Boarding Shotgun would be on the Bandit.

As for the rest, are your ideas similar to this? http://smaggminis.tumblr.com/post/159342512322/ranorasaurus-smaggthesmug-what-if-felix-had

>>54267967

Supposed to be, and then pan0 somehow gets at least as many, and other factions get ridiculous ones as well.

>>54268249
PanO's are mostly rather boring and weaker than YJ ones (aside from BS) and they don't get 5pts regular orders to fuel them.
Just compare Magisters to Haramaki.

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Looks like the expansion boxes are hyped up. Possibly new sculpts for all.
Which is cool, because I dislike current Swiss HMG.

>>54268321
Haramaki actually have higher BS, which is key for an ML link. And are cheaper.

>>54268527
I hope they keep the Swiss and Daofei HMG as females though.

Also looks like the Daofei's getting a coat, not sure what to think of it. Also, possibly a close combat pose?

>>54268131
Honestly I hadn't thought that in-depth. Wildcat with filed breasts, a headswap and maybe the rocket launcher replaced with something from my Specops spares was the only plan I had. Thanks for the link.

>>54268296
That's sort of duplicitous. "Aside from BS" is a pretty enormous thing to set aside. The Aquila's superior to the Hsien in a one-to-one basis, just that the latter also gets easier access to smoke (which takes up an additional 13 points and 0.5SWC).

And Haramaki obviously won't be taken in vanilla, so all those nice HI shenanigans in vanilla don't apply to JSA.

So which faction has the best skintight suits?

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>>54269429
ALEPH, hands down.

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>>54269429
Do you also want erect nipples with those skin tight suits?

>>54264072
That's the case for pretty much every close to mid range brawler. Of course you are going to spend orders to do so.

G-synch troopers can reach order to kill ratios way better than most troops, with the top level ones, like the Gorgos getting better than a 1-1. Not only can they force 2 vs 1, they can split to engage multiple targets.

Yeah, you have spend orders, to get to best situation, but light shotguns are still at 0 range up to 16 and -3 out to 24. Even at the Auxbot' s low BS that's still potential free shots at up to 24 inches against a mimetism trooper in cover.

>>54265565
Stats and gear seem to have a sliding scale in cost. The jump from BS 13 to 14 is pretty steep compared to jumps closer to baseline.

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>>54269553
I mean, technically this S00mika is a sort of quantum Lhost in infinity terms, right?

Also, using Mubrub is cheating. Pic very related. That is some skin tight action there.

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>>54269605
Nono, this is some skin tight action.

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>>54269827
>tfw mubrub dead forever

Also, totally converting a O-Yoroi pilot to Meiya because it's just too perfect.

>>54269953
OK, I've seen antenna-hair and cat-ear-hair, but it's the first time I see flower-hair.

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>>54269953
Good luck with her hair.
>>54270804
>flower-hair
It's meant to look like a GP02 from Stardust Memory. Yes really.

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>>54269429
Could always go with the Cyborg Ninjas

>>54269429
The Winter Vixen has semi-visible nipple bumps, but the Asura's more skin tight overall.

A few others wear skintight suits like the Maghariba Pilot but Aleph takes the cake.

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Post Caledonians

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>>54271851
This may not have been a good model, but at least it was memorable.

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>>54272335
Memorable eh?

>>54272453
Oh gosh, don't remind me that they gave her pants.

>>54272554
>pants on my female volunteers
Shit sucks, man

>>54272335
Everybody always told that they were gonna flip that into standing model, but I never saw thay conversion.

>>54272832
You could paimt the pants as skin?

No, don't do that.

>>54272855
I'm just going to continue not playing CHA

>>54272554
Leggings are superior. Leggings will always win.

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>>54272902

>>54269953
Yui would probably be easier. Her hairstyle has the same volume as the O-Yoroi, just need to the hair decoration on the side.

>>54271753
Aleph definitely has a lot of skintight suits. Stupid sexy ASS.

>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Infinity/N3_Tactics/Ariadna
Started on the Ariadna Tactica down. I'm not super familiar with playing Ariadna outside of USARF and a bit of MRRF, so anyone more experienced is welcomed to pitch in.

Has there been even a shred of promotion for the outrage characters pack yet?

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>>54273808
>Yui would probably be easier. Her hairstyle has the same volume as the O-Yoroi, just need to the hair decoration on the side.
Yes but she's not a Trilogy character, and more importantly she's not Meiya.

I wonder if you could make a decent Marimo out of the Maghariba Pilot.

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http://www.goldendist.com/index.php?m=detail&p=127654
http://www.goldendist.com/index.php?m=detail&p=127653

Look what was leaked.

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>>54277131
and beyond icestorm

>>54277131
You're too late >>54251281

>>54277152
damn oh well still I have to get the beyond icestorm since I'll start tunguska and varuna when they are released.

>>54268527
wait don't the daofei originate from that ice planet? Caiman would die horribly in that environment.

>>54253228
>http://www.goldendist.com/index.php?m=detail&p=127653
The expansions are legit; I do some of the orders for my FLGS and Alliance (our main distributor) has them on preorder. I can't confirm whats in them, but looking at the teasers, I say it's legit.

>>54277151
this is bullshit.

like, what the fuck. what kind of fucking unit spread is that?

the pano half reads like a bad joke.

>a kamau,a bolt and a swiss walk into a bar lel

like, a fucking Bolt? a fucking unlinked Bolt. two HMGs, one on an LI with no defensive MODs. fucking Swiss making the OP:I ORC irrelevant.

what the fucc

>>54279478
The nomad side looks great though so I'll split it with you.

>>54279549
Yeah not gonna lie, it does.

>hellcat, intruder-kun and motherfucking shiny new unit

i hope the Borac looks dope.

>>54279478
I'm just annoyed I'm going to buy the Red Veil expansion just so I can get the Ragik so I have all the sculpts CB has ever made for them. Already own the Fiday and Tarik and I don't play Yu Jing.

Also likely won't buy it in time to get the exclusive.

>>54277131
Gee, Red veil! Why does momma give you all the cool models!?!

>>54279478
Have to agree, the PanO part is insultingly bad.
Good thing I mainly play SAA...

>>54281138
Makes me wonder what CB considers a good PanO list.

>>54277131
I'm hoping those are all resculpts (besides Tarik and Zhanying since they're already new). Otherwise, I would only be interested in the CSU.

>>54277151
>Swiss Guard is probably going to be that fucking shitty old mini
>Bolt Paramedic and not a Bolt with BSG and EM Grenades
>Still no fucking Joan or Hospitaller resculpts
Great, thanks CB

>>54279696
It's a new Tarik dude

>>54279478
>LI with no defensive MODs.
The new Kamaus are getting a completely new statline this has been said multiple times

>>54281647
>inb4 +1 ARM MOV 4-2 because they became MI

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>>54277131
Why are the Zhanying split between the ISS starter, a blister, and this?! Why not just a fucking
4 box?

Though for all my bitching I'm still gonna get this, as I play both Haqq & Yu JIng.

Let's have a bit of a fun thought experiment.

Let's suppose Corvus Belli, for some insane reason, decided to take a page from GW's book and rename a bunch of units and factions to more copyright friendly terms, like from Imperial Guard to Astra Militarum, or Elfs to Aelves.

What would you expect, fear, and hope to be renamed?

I can see the Imperial Service Sectorial to the Yanjing Intelligence Service or the Combined Army as an overall faction being renamed to something else but keeping the Shavastii and Morat names.

>>54281245
Had the same question cross my mind and the only answer I came up with was:
Moar dakka!
3 HMGs, how very PanO.

>>54282720
>Varuna gets ava total on ORCs
>HMG ORC is 10pts 0 SWC

>>54282898
>orc now has a core link

>>54282898
>>54282920
>they all get AP and DA CCWs
>BS is reduced to 8 though

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>>54251281
>>54251304
>>54277151
I'm trying to figure out what kind of list are we looking at here. If this is supposed to go to 300pts then I'm always missing a few, especially if I take Fusils as barebones combi guys.
Hopefully this does not mean Kamau get a price bump. That would make them Securitate-tier, which they are already dangerously close to.

>>54283040
ORKZ IS MADE FOR FIGHTIN

>>54282898
I bet their Orc will get Aquatic terrain for 1 point more.

>>54283114
EwBgjAPgzCIRYCkZgBZGpMRBCJL1Ns9k0MtcVkoBWDADiR3RQHYMZcpSA2DYbjgCc1bKlYhc7MJ1Q0mYfFEKs+ObCjpRgMxAAEDQA===

Oddly enough the Yu Jing one is elegantly exact compared to the Haqqislam ones and the Nomad one shrouded in mystery.

>>54275990
https://youtu.be/4NPJUtTHR1Q

Ask and you shall receive.

>>54282155
>Why are all these models split between three boxes
>I'm still gonna get this
that's why

Ok, honestly the "beyond Icestorm/Red Veil" is a good idea, as that is usually the first thing asked by someone who started with them. The only problem is PanO part (as usual).

So let's try this: you have 116-120pts to spend on 3 models to expand Icestorm part of PanO, no proxies, at least one of them has to be an eye-catcher big or "wow" unit, as it's competing with Kriza Borac for attention. Assume you're making new models for everything and units or profiles without any models ever are allowed.

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It may sound weird, but as a PanO player I'm starting to think PanO would be better off if Swiss Guard would never exist.
In PanO you want your expensive HI unit to be either an exceptional killer or a nigh-invulnerable specialist. In the former only Cutter outperforms Swiss, but it costs way premium and comes with all the TAG penalties and in the latter nothing compares to Swiss. Thus, like it or not, every single HI in PanO will be compared to Swiss, making the exceptional perceived as standard and anything less than exceptional "sub-optimal". It also makes players gravitate towards that single unit, making PanO a bit of a monolist faction.
Without Swiss: ORCs would have one less HMG HI to compete with, single knights like Sepulchre or Father-Knight would have more value rather than being "bloat", TAGs would be more attractive and Bolts would still suck, but NCA would play Aquila or TAGs instead of Swiss only.

Agree/disagree?

>>54284283
But Anon, the Swiss guard has to exist because PanO needs a Hac Tao equivalent, and Hac Tao are a poster boy unit of Infinity.

>>54284036
Hexa, same kamau,
LOCUST
O
C
U
S
T

How to Keisotsu?

>>54284036
I don't play PanO but a Crocman, Locust Breaker Combi (who's missing a model and can sort of mirror the Zhanying), and Knight of Santiago (had some surge of popularity with the Outrage Manga) is what I'd do. Maybe an aquila guard but those already have models and I'm not sure the math works with replacing the Santiago knight.

>>54284283
I'd say the Swiss is too close to an iconic unit as a HI to do away with. Also, as of right now a good dissuasion from fielding it was its ugly model, although that didn't stop an ORC proxying it.

>>54284491
Have five in a link (with maybe one Kempeitei), put in FO and like one or rarely two ML. Park it somewhere with the ML(s) in view for ARO duties and the others not, occasionally move up to do an objective and flash someone with the FO or the Kempeitei's CoC. Ocassionally take a hacking device for cheap remote buffs. What's not to get?

>>54284491
They are cheap cheerleaders.

You can put them in a cheap fireteam with a kempeitai and Yuriko Oda so the two can have bonus to burst and BS

>>54283667
Any notice that the text is from the Annecy murders and stuff?

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>>54248601
>>54268527
Life has many doors, Edboy.

>>54282323
Guess the GW'ified unit.
NeoVatican Pontifiiguard Cloakslayers.
Haqqislamari Hassassinatorial Deceptors
SinoStateImperial Orangeshield Invinciblaster.
Observancy Technowyrd Hackwitchors.

>>54286054
Uh ...
Black Friar
Hassassin Fiday
Zuyong or a Yan Huo, leaning on Zuyong for a reason
Custodier?

This is indeed quite the riddle.

>>54284283
Swiss Guard are the only thing in the PanO HI arsenal that didn't get nerfed. That's why they're vital. In fact, Swiss got buffed (Shotgun for the missile guy?! Increased value in the assault hacker)

Aquilas lost a ton. They used to be equal to Swiss, due to their crazy camo-hunt ability. Nowadays, MSV3 is both overpriced and underpowered vs MSV2, as well as their loss of key weapon options.

GdAs lost their speed advantage, and can't coordinate to move up the field efficiently.

ORC HMG is fine on her own, but the game's moved on IMO.

Sepulchre Knights got another 5 points tacked on for no reason. Look at it: Is it really worth that much more than a Hassassin Ayarr?

Father Knights are sorta gimmicky and under-armed.

Hey guys relatively new the game and wanted to get something straight. They adding new sectorials?

>>54286093
>Sepulchre Knights got another 5 points tacked on for no reason. Look at it: Is it really worth that much more than a Hassassin Ayarr?
+1 BS, +1 PH, +1 ARM, +4 CC, Stealth and Courage from Martial Arts Level 2, DA CCW, all of which gives it advantages over the Ayyar from hacking and close quarters combat. Rifles in general are about 3 points less than a combi-rifle so with the combination of extra skills and equipment that the Sepulchre Knight has (+3 for combi, +1 for DA, +x amount of points for Martial arts) the Ayyar does seem more streamlined, but I argue the Sepulchre is still better overall from the stealth it could use to avoid being hacked in the active turn and the better shooting and close combat stats. The pricing is fair for what you're getting I would say, it's just the Ayyar's straight ballin' in comparison but in a significantly different role.

Then again it does seem that Corvus Belli gives newer units a bit more leeway in combining point costs. The equipment on Xi Zhuang adds up to more than the 20 points he is.

>>54286203
Yeah. Soon-ish or later-ish.

What's been disclosed is that sectorials will be PanO's Varuna, Haqqislam's Ramah Taskforce, Yu Jing Invincible Army, Aleph's OSS (the Vedic/indian sounding units), Nomad's Tunguska, and Tohaa's Triumvirate. Shasvastii and FRRM sectorials are getting a rework instead (as Onyx and USAriadna took their place in the major updates of HSN3).

>>54286093
I'm still mad that the GdA didn't get 6-2 Mov.

>>54286093
You got to stop comparing HI against the Ayyar. The Ayyar is criminally undercost and everything looks awful next to its min maxed profile.

>>54286338
>Yu Jing Invincible Army
Is there any info on those? I've been thinking of getting into the game soonish and those look amazing.

>>54287381
The Yu Jing military is organized into 8 Banner Armies, which have regular infantry units supported by elite units. Thre Invincible Army is the size of a Banner Army, but was organized as the most elite unit of the military. Every combat soldier in the army is decked out in Powered Armor, and they are trained more extensively than your average Zhanshi. At least according to fluff, the Zuyong HI are supposed to be their most basic soldier, rather than the Zhanshi LI. In game the sectorial will doubtlessly be super focused on heavy infantry. A lot of vanilla Yu Jing units are actually invincible army units. I think the Tiger Soldiers, Zuyongs, Shang Jis, Yan Huos, and Daofeis are all guarantees in the IA.

Also if it matters to you, the IA is under the command of the State Empire Party rather than the Imperial Court, so they will give off much less of a fascist evil vibe.

>>54287668
That is amazing to hear. Those models all look great. I guess I'll by and paint a few of those and just wait. Not much sense in looking for a local player base if I'm moving anyway. What's the best way to do that anyway? I'm in Germany if that matters.

>>54287761
I don't have a very good sense of this thing since I started playing with friends and in an established community, but Infinity does have a "Warcor" thing going on where approved community members of regions are supposed to be fostering communities. If there is a Warcor in your area of Germany you might want to contact them. Also check out some Local Game Shops in your area and see if any carry Infinity and/or have active Infinity scenes.

Also, if you get tired of waiting for the next book, just no-sectorial Yu Jing is a very powerful faction. A lot of the really amazing Yu Jing units are not available in either current sectorial, and the variety of the vanilla faction is pretty potent.

rescue bump

Anybody had any experience with the RPG yet? I'm anxious to give it a whirl once my Kickstarter rewards arrive.

>>54287761
If you have it available, try Facebook groups. "Infinity the game, Deutschland" is there. "WGC Infinity" is the international English speaking group with the most activity that I've encountered so far, so chances are good that you can contact some german players there too.

I left Facebook couple years ago for personal reasons, but recently made an anonymous one just for infinity contacts, and it's been way worth it.

Good luck!

>>54291102
Try last thread, especially >>54187509

>>54291175
Ooh, thanks. I can't decide between an all-Nomads campaign or the standard Wilderness of Mirrors when I finally get to grips with it.

>>54291102
Why are you waiting? Physical copy of the core?

>>54281647
I know.

This is one of the reasons the beyond box shits in my cornflakes.

Either the Kamau in the Beyond box has N3 stats, or they blow the load on a single model on some add on box.

Im just salty theres no NAVAL INTERVENTION FORCE box like USariadna got.

>>54292428
It will have the new Kamau statline, they'll even be showcasing it at the next big expo.

>>54292428
>Im just salty theres no NAVAL INTERVENTION FORCE box
I understand I'm looking forward to both Varuna and Tunguska

>>54292542
Please dear god have it have a Haris. Or Z-V smoke or something.

We know they're giving the Kamau a BSG since it's on the dossier at least.

>>54292553
I find it hilarious that theme wise, icestorm is perfect for both of them. Space Sneeky breekys vs overtech ESWAT frogbois

>>54293022
Who would be better at removing kebab, Tunguska, Kazak or MO?

>>54293261
Kazaks obviously

>>54293261
Morats

>>54293261
Space kebab removalists so Tunguska

>>54293261
The Fat Yuan is best at removing kebab. As well as any other food.

>>54287761
Also there is http://www.o-12.de/
German Infinity Forums.

Just got myself a Marut. How should i go around using it? IS a TR bot with a Marut over kill?

>>54297231
No. Protect your TAGs. Take also smoke (=Myrmidons) to get use out of the MSV2.

>>54297259
Also which is better to take with a Marut?
Sophie or the engineer proxy?

>>54297319
Well, Sophie is a doctor too, so if you can afford it, it's a convenient package.
>tfw there are several otherwise viable engineers in ALEPH, but all are rendered obsolete in vanilla thanks to either cheapness of Proxy 1

>>54293261
Tunguska IS kebab

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Congratulations Tunguska wannabe players, you're getting another potato.

>>54297812
If I didn't take proxy 1 engineer than what else could I take ?

>>54301867
Is it a big daddy?
As long as it does not look like a runaway Morat, like the Taskmaster.

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>>54302307
I thought the Taskmaster looked oddly Tohaa-esque when I saw it.

It actually probably isn't that far off from the truth. Perhaps the secrets their hiding in the black labs of Praxis is that they're looting alien technology to adapt it for human use.

Although because I painted it like how I painted the mobile Brigada and Iguana I kind of think it looks like a Brigada now.

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>>54291102
Speaking of the RPG, since Mophidius clearly stole/borrowed huge chunks of the Mongoose Traveller character creation for its lifepath, (and I find that the MgT 2e ruleset is superior to 2d20), here's the beginning of an (awful) conversion of Infinity for use with Mongoose Traveller 2e.

Will probably need ideas for Shock ammo though, since Traveller is already quite deadly.

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>>54248601
>that "motto"

>>54302763
>Traveller
>superior to anything
Only if you count having the most 2d6 tables as a sign of superiority. I'd take Savage Worlds as a conversion candidate over that system.

>>54301867
Yooo its Fallouts enclave power armor. Nice.

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>>54302902
Which version of Traveller are you referring to? I mean, if you're talking about how many tables you roll on for character creation, than it's appropriate for the Mophidius RPG, since it does the same.

Traveller is a quite nice system, in my estimation. Simple and straightforward on the player side, variously crunchy on the GM side, with ease of cross compatibility, so you can swap out whatever you don't like.

>>54302966
Mongoose 1e. Bought it, realised I hated it, never ran it.
And the 2d6 tables extend to fucking every other part of the system, while you can point-buy your way through most of the official RPG's chargen if your GM allows (and really, who wouldn't allow that?).

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>>54304025
>realised I hated it, never ran it.
You are probably not going to like Mophidius' take on the Infinity RPG then.

>and really, who wouldn't allow that?
point-buy always has the glaring possibility of players gaming chargen, whereas random rolls can result in interesting characters that the players may not have aimed for. Which, of course, is something that players might not want. I just find that point-buying your way through 4 career terms of Marine is dreadfully boring.

As an aside, that's also sort of the problem I have with the Mophidius 2d20 system. It's too... gamey, with the GM using shared resources with the players to alter rule outcomes (initiative).

>>54304207
>probably not going to like Modiphius' take on the Infinity RPG
But I do. Far more than Traveller.
That "gamey"ness appeals to me a lot more than a GURPS-esque slavish emulation of reality. Dice and paper can't completely simulate what happens if you fire a grenade into someone's face, at least not in a quick and entertaining manner, some allowances must be made in the name of fun.

Also I'd rather have point-buy and a "boring" but competent character than get completely fucked in the ass by my dice before the game's even begun.

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>>54304324
Ah well, agree to disagree and all that. Strange, isn't it, what one thinks is fun? I find that 'gamey'ness really takes me out of the fiction.

Speaking of things to convert, there's precious little on what spaceships in Infinity are like. Do we have any reasonably good pictures or references?

>>54296877
>>54291137
>>54288722
Thanks guys. I'll look at all of those.

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>>54304489
I mean there's the Azure Dragon dropship that had a small cameo in the Outrage Manga along with the Dolly Dagger, circular, and part of Tunguska.

I recall an image of the outside of a corregidor ship with some hellcats, and there are the ships and space stations currently being depicted in Strikezone Wotan.

>>54286249
>"but it's better!"
>50% more expensive
>not a specialist
>no SSlvl2
>no akimbo viral pistols
>has a bitching cloak instead of poncho
It's a tough choice.

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>>54305362
I gtotta say, I love that cloak. And the cross of Jerusalem, it's just so cool.

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>>54304489

The Yu Jing light frigate from the Wotan campaign.

>>54302072
Acmon
Dactyls
Thorakitai
Scarface&Cordelia

>>54282323
Honestly the main thing that would need to be renamed is the actual game name itself, since 'Disney Infinity Miniatures' craps on search results if you don't have a google profile or w/e weeding out those results.

>>54286249
>>54305362

I think the choice of either combi or spitfire hampers it. A .5-1SWC option might be helpful in making it easier to fit in/not feeling gimped with a combi.

>>54301867
We already knew about it being S5.

>>54300469
But that's wrong they are space east Europe and some South East Asia, they mentioned Filipinos and they fucking hate the islamic scum in the south who keep blowing shit up.

>>54308491
True that.

A Multi rifle, Mk12, Light Rocket Launcher, or a... Red Fury.... would be nice.

>>54306922
Luckily Disney is ending the line of Infinity so sooner or later it'll die out from the results. Kids and parents only have so long an attention span.

>>54309861
Sigh.

>>54309861
kek

>>54310622
Man I had no idea that disney stuff was even a thing until I started shopping online looking for deals.

Question I am starting out the game with Steel Phalanx what tokens should I buy and where is the best place to buy.

>>54313249

Choose the tokens you need with this:

http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers/

Then print them out onto glossy 8.5x11 cardstock at a print shop or at home if you have a nice color printer. Then cover the tokens with these and cut them out with scissors:

https://www.amazon.com/Beadaholique-100-Piece-Stickers-Bottle-Pendants/dp/B00AFRWIRQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500014188&sr=8-1&keywords=bottle+cap+pendant

Warsenal and Customeeple sell fancy premade tokens, but they'll cost a lot more.

>>54313642
Wow thanks alot, honestly these are some the more friendlier generals on /tg.

>>54258313
What's happening with shas anyway? Are they still going to be the sneaky lizards we love?

>>54313249
impact and direct templates, orders, fireteam leader markers, a few wound and dogged or nwi markers should also do you a good start for things to print out.

>>54313706
We kind of have to be because the playerbase isn't that big and we have to balance out some of the WAAC people that inevitably get attracted to the game, along with a lot of the silly house rulers and polish FLGS horror stories.

>>54315012
A lot of the units will be similar, but overall aesthetically I heard they want Shasvastii to cover the "miscellaneous" look for CA, whatever that may imply.

>>54315090
Hopefully they keep the bug look for them. They make a very distinct army as of now.

>>54315090
>polish FLGS horror stories
Now you have my attention

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Is this the new Swiss Guard? I'm loving the look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpRlEZStiF4
Nice

>>54315993
>that sword
I guess he has to compete with Aquila's coat in coolness departament.

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>>54315993
I like the look of theTunguska HI

>>54316025
great, I would have bought the yu jing one, if it wasn't for the haqqislam models I don't need.

>>54316184
If the rest of Tunguska stuff looks like that I might need to switch sides.

>>54316201
Are there no Haqq players in your area to split with?

>>54316025
If people thought the taskmaster was an escaped morat, boy are they going to be disappointed with an even more obvious kriza morat lol. Also on my small phone screen the head looks like the predator.

In other news LADY INTRUDER AND PIMP SWISS

>>54316220
Imagine what the redesigned Szalamandra will look like

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>>54316025
They really hit it out of the park with the Haqqislam models.

>>54316221
0 haqq. Maybe there were some playing before N2, but I have not played the game back then. Since then 0 people wanted to start them, and we have over 20 people playing at our store.

>>54316025
What are the Yu Jing models? I'm guessing Guilang but have no idea about the others. Shang-Ji?

>>54316349
Daofei and Zhanying. Look earlier in the thread.

>>54316365
Oh, Daofei is completely different from what I imagined.

>>54316025
nice to see the classic hassassin masks again

fiday looks sweet

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>>54316320
>>54316402

Is CB literally incapable of sculpting an AD unit in contact with the ground?

I think i figured out why pano got saddled with a bolt in this expansion. So look at the Icestorm units and you see they provide a nice starting point for individual armies but also counter each other. Nomads get a spektr so pano gets msv2. But then you have the weird standout of the healer who can keep dudes alive and pano doesnt have that option.

Now theres a swiss involved so nomads get msv2 as well. I think the bolt was included as an analogue to the healer, plus the only doctors pano has are hospitaller who will get new models, the doctor that helps sell its support pack, and bipandra who is part of dire foes. Bolt also acts as a rearguard against the hellcat and spektr. Also her bts does protect her from the healers nanopulser when you start introducing real loadouts/proxy profiles.

Its going to be interesting to see what the kriza has as tunguska is the expensive high tech sectorial, so the mk12 is a compromise in sheer firepower of an hmg or spitfire for other gear to keep costs down i think. I wonder if those pylons on his back are for odd. Im assuming baseline stats are going to be similar to a taskmasters, lower cc and higher wip, maybe a specialist.

>>54316184
He's a big guy

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>>54316970
Speaking of Pano
The Kamau definitely doesn't look like a MI.

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deus vult motherfucker

>>54317049
>scumbag.png
kek

Also, he'd look miles better with a pointing "you're next" gesture instead of that sword. Should be quite easy to convert.

Is it cool to talk about the RPG here? Rules and fluff, characters and worldbuilding and so on?

>>54316991
Im glad they kept the head tubes, now it really looks like a scifi bane from the animated series.

>>54317126
Very much so as we get atleast one person per thread asking about it. Plus it should help keep the threads alive.

>>54317153
>>54317126
In that case... what would Felix's stats be in the RPG?

>>54316791
you say that as if it were a bad thing

>>54317245
the other two ragiks are on the ground
I guess that's what made them go full tactical rock on this one

>>54316991
ForYou.jpeg

>>54316184
>"This is your body, without strawberries."

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Corregidor or Tunguska?

Oddly enough it looks like a female intruder, but the extra gubbins say no.

>>54317409
its sniper intruder, thats the X-visor the sniper version has

>>54316184
>>54252083

How times change.

>>54317000
How can you tell? He's basically Sikh without a grav chute and they are MI.

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So what do we think? Does the mantle make up for the missing cybertail?
I'm pleased how it's really more a cloak than a mantle, mantle on power armour makes the model seem exhibitionistic to my eye, cause of the color pattern interaction.

Head is okay, though personally I'm not too much a fan of the egghead theme. Some ornaments should break that up nicely.

8/10, would infiltrate.

>>54248601
Wargames general no longer confines Infinity to the Alt-and-historical channel! Come mix things up in your own private channel where ALEPH watches all!*

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>>54315993
You ain't fooling us with that sword, CB, we see what he's doing with his other hand.

Nice to finally see a PanO sword guy not waving it around and making proper storage tricky.

>>54317640
I'm sick and tired of silly big gun in one hand and big sword in the other poses. Multi-rifle Hsien and Assault Hacker Hac Tao are great. Even the new Swiss Guard makes sense, as it's an at-ease pose. Dynamic poses waving both weapons around frustrate me.

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>>54316791
PanO starter Akali is flat on the ground, thankfully.
Also fem and noodle Yuan Yuan.

>>54317245
Not him, but it can be a bitch to put on resin bases.

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>>54317670

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>>54317153
I'm keen on finding stuff that could serve as third-party art for cities and locations, especially Adriana stuff.

>>54316791
The Ragik with spitfire is landed on the ground.

Kickass model too

>>54317000
You know, 1 SWC and 24pts (assuming it doesn't change much) is not that much for a BS13 HMG troop. A bit of a glass cannon, but could trade well with something double its cost. Although dropping the ORC or FK for an HMG Nisse and something different would still make a better list.

>>54317950
It's getting a new stat line on this release for all we know the HMG profile has ODD or something.

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>order one mini to finish a list
>it's stuck in order limbo because the distributor fucked up
the worst feeling

>>54318254
if only every distributor could be as quick as amazon.

>>54318271
I like to buy stuff through the FLGS, but whoever they've got for infinity stuff is not very good.

>>54318303
I'm still waiting for my danavas.
Pre ordered as soon as the preorder was available. Never ordering infinity through my flgs again.

>>54316184
Better have some slick rules with all that stuff coming out of it. If it's TO:Camo I'll be impressed. Mk12 is a little underwhelming coming out of the gate.

Hope it has some multiple weapon options per setup.

>>54318814
Mk12 is not that unusual, considering Nomads love spending their SWC on MI. It's what makes Geckos viable, sorta. It's why Red Fury Taskmaster is better than HMG Taskmaster (aside from koalas and tinbot).

And who knows, maybe Kriza Boracs get Haris or Duo in Tunguska.

>>54316025
As a PanO and YJ player, I love all the sculpts offered to me here. I don't really see a need for any of the guys bar the Kamau gameplay-wise, but the design for all of them is lovely, so it's still a must-buy.

Which starter packs have the most refined sculpts? I heard that there is a considerable quality difference between mordern and older packs? Can someone give me a short explanation fit for a complete beginner?

>>54317409
>Dat tit pressed up against the msr

>>54315993
Yeah, love him.

why couldn't make just 3 model boxs? this is just like the dire foes boxs. What is worse there are models there that people actualy want. I doubt they will make single dao feis or guilangs anytime soon.

Damn, all those models look amazing.

>>54318914
I understand, but if it has just a Mk12 and no secondary weapon (ignoring pistol and ccw/knife) then I am going to be somewhat disappointed regardless. An arm mounted SMG would be neat. Or chain colt since that seems more common. Personally hope he has a good offensive grenade. Chest Mines would be cool.

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>>54319311

>>54319000
>I don't really see a need for any of the guys bar the Kamau gameplay-wise
You're an odd fellow, unless you already have a Swiss Guard model or swear by Hacker/ML profiles.
Swiss is basically *the* best PanO HI.

Really surprised by another Tarik. Was thinking there were other Haqq that could use some models.

>>54318814
>>54318914
plus, as far as a 'standard' gun, mk12 aint too bad. Sure, it isn't a deathray, but it's pretty nice for what I'm guessing will be a 'cheap' profile.

I'll be impressed if kriza's can grab something bananas like a multi spitfire.

>>54321679
Needed a big, semi expensive model and couldn't make yet another new S5 unit.

>>54319979
I have every PanO model, but that's not the issue. I was thinking of the vast swathes of shit that doesn't have any model at all, like the Locust, or have horrid minis, like the Trauma-doc, while the Swiss Guard models are all still pretty good.
Basically, my issues here:
-Neoterra Paramedic
There are eight fucking Bolts already, none of which ever see play, did we really need another one gameplay-wise? Still, it will obviously look great and is part of my favorite models.
- Swiss HMG
The old version is still great, so was this needed? No. But would you fucking look at that sword? Jesus. That being said, there are a whole bunch of knight or HI loadouts that would have been plain more important. Montesa LGL, anyone?
- Kamau
Yes. Kamau are amazing and this guy delivers. Can't wait for a box and a link of these guys.

>>54322157
I guess my point is that Tunguska is known for having the tech and credits to have outlandish and crazy combinations. To me the Mk12 is low tech. I expected another Redfury or MR with underslung ADHL. Even a built in repeater would be neat.

>>54322662
Was gonna say, convert the Bolt into a Locust.

>>54323268
Not him, but why not just release a locust then? There are already plenty of bolts, several of which would make for a perfect medic.

>>54323041
The Mk12 might be the M2 .50cal of Infinity, as old as your grandparents and still going strong. Plus its not usually man-portable so being a big guy helps out. This in turn lets them spend extra dosh on toys for the armor.

Those drum things on the back remind me of ghazi...please be for Jammer

>>54323041
I get you, but on the other hand: Tunguska still needs to have 'rank and file' weapons too. MK12 isn't high tech, but it is basically a huge rifle, and suiting for a 'standard kit' version of a KB. I have to agree that I'd like other goodies on there: grenades, SMG, MSV, Xvisor, etc.

I'm just glad it's 1: not another thigh mounted ammo can and 2: will give me something I can easily press mold to convert current taskmaster to not have said thigh ammocan.

Also adjusting my wishlist to plasma weaponry on a profile.

>>54324257
They look way more like Sekban than Ghazi backpacks, probably Zero G.

>>54324366
Hector has the only plasma gun in the human sphere.

>>54324584
It's implied those are stolen from EI on fairly regular basis.

>>54323268
Not part of the CB team so I couldn't help ya.

>>54324257
I'm thinking the things on it's back are for a reactor/cloaking rig. Still think a good line weapon would be a Breaker Combi + an underslung weapon... Though I guess the Mk12 fits the bill.

>>54324366
Definitely needs some excessive goodies.

>>54323473
I have no idea why.

>>54324718
He's got the only functioning one. The engineers want to get at it but Hector loudly calling dibs.

>>54325376
I'd hope to keep it that way as CA doesn't have a whole going for it gameplay wise if plasma becomes a more widely available ammo type.

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Looks like a Heavy Pistol in addition to the Mk12.

Disappointed by the Kriza, no more 40k models please.

Holy shit though that unexpected female Intruder.

Just read a comment by Calos on the Facebook under the outline image of the Kriza Borac the CB postet: Black hand will be a part of Tunguska, comparable to Observancy in Bakunin. If this isn't something interesting! I bet Hollow men are Black Hand operatives... just because they kind of sound like that.

Quote: Carlos Llauger Lorenzo: Consider "Black Hand" inside Tunguska as "The Observancy" is inside Bakunin.

>>54329354
It makes sense. There really isn't enough there for a Black Hand sectorial, they'd need at least 10 new Nomad units to just make a bare bones one.

>>54317000
>>54317639
PanO standard armor is pretty standard. But all the PanO MI have thigh pads and armored arms. He doesn't.

>>54326864

Yeah, when the first spoiler came out I was dissappointed because I already have more intruders and hellcats than I know what to do with, but that sculpt is baller.

And yeah I haven't been thrilled with what now seems like S5 HI spam.

>>54331552

>>54331528
I really do like the big HI, gives you that feeling of Nomad heavies being giant piles of tech - an outdated bulky chassis that's been upgraded to the max. The hyperpowers are running a range of shiny new sleek suits, Nomads are syncing on Koalas and tacking on subweapons. Feel like that junkyard look fits their fluff best

Just starting out and making a new list, would love some feedback.

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