Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>54241401
Warhound Statline for discussion.

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Why do Slavs like 40k so much?

>>54241417
Slavs are essentially the Imperium irl

>>54241416
Getting tabled seems unlikely. What is likely is that you'd absolutely murderize 2 units per turn. So if the enemy has more than 12 units he can win through objectives.

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I just got 12 Bretonian Men At Arms for $25, new on the fucking sprue.

Would it be a crime for me to convert them into the following?

>>54241401
>>54241416

At 1500pts this feels a little too crazy.
It will kill two units a turn and, since people bring lists that can handle many things, will kill the 3-4 units that can actually hurt it before having practically free reign on the table.

But if they have alot of units, more then twelve especially, then they should be able to hold more objectives.

So I think it loses to guard and orks, who both spam lots of units, but will annihilate any kind of elite army that goes out there.

Overall, not that broken, but probably not that much fun either.

>>54241548
Needing to have the most models within 3'' of an objective in order to claim it is one of the best changes. Really makes stupid meme armies like nothing but Imperial Knights less similar to using hacks and cheats.

>>54241646

And instead makes meme armies like conscripts unstoppable

>can't out-contest them
>can't even get near the objective due to all the enemy bodies
>can't template them more than 6 hits anymore
>they all get auras now

>>54241548
without any support I'm pretty sure you'll get tabled if he brought a decent amount of heavy weapons. it's only W35.

>>54241744
>only W35
>only
>not just 35 wounds, but 35 T9 3+ wounds

It's only going to die to people prepare for vehicle spam or titanic armies.

>>54241735
Well unless you bring nothing but lascannons it's not that hard to have enough shots to clear at least one unit of conshits in a turn. And each gap you shoot in their lines will need some time to be filled back in, with only move 6

>>54241827
Anti-horde weapons like flamers should've copied the grav flux bombard rule. If their squads are retardedly oversize, you should get bonuses against them.

>>54241401

How autistic are you guys about painting space marine chapters different colour schemes?

>>54241843
Oh definitely. Blast weapons should also get double the amount of hits on units that have more than 10 models in them, or maybe a bonus on to hit rolls. Just some kind of 'Shooting fish in a barrel' rule would be nice.

>tfw this December I'll have been involved with 40K for ten years
>tfw still collecting my Tau army, replacing my terrible older miniatures with newer ones
>tfw I can't smell plastic glue anymore

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Hey which mega link has the Dark Imperium novel? I can't find it.
thanks

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Should I paint my necron characters as they appear on the box art? i.e. Anrakyr and Illuminor Szeras
Will people freak out if they match my dynasties colors? Only reason I ask is neither have a <Dynasty> keyword. I wanted to paint Anrakyr like boxart anyway but Szeras would be too out of place color wise with my dudes
Better question, are any of these characters worth a shit? I see they have better stats/weapons than overlord/cryptek but realistically how many times does an overlord get into melee combat in a game anyway?

>>54241875

I'm 200% autistic when it comes to my army and being lore accurate with accurate military markings. For someone else's army, they can do whatever they want because I'm not going to tell someone how to paint or play with their army. Red Ultramarines with blood drops everywhere led by red Guilliman with angel wings? Go nuts. It's just not something I would do myself.

>>54241988
If it's a nice paintjob and people freak out because you're adjusting a model to be more fitting for your army, then they're probably autistic. If you want to avoid that though, you could always just paint your necrons to match the characters or create a fluffy explanation as to why they're helping some other guys instead.

reivers rules yet?

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Since I got no replies last thread, what should someone who has Celestine and 3 Immolators look for in 8th to supplement bolter bitches?

Necron have been too fucking tough on me. I dont know if its the guys luck or what, but they seem to get back up all the time.

Any tips for necron fighting?

>>54242115

5-10 per squad
18 ppm
MC stalker bolt rifle for 5 points

Only thing we don't have rules for is heavy bolt pistol (probably just a pistol heavy bolter), shock grenades, and for some reason their melee weapon isn't listed.

>>54242140
focus one unit to death at a time, before beginning to attack a new unit.

>>54242140

You need to focus fire and kill the entire squad before switching targets. Necrons are the most durable army in the game. Their only weakness is they can't hurt heavy vehicles very well and I think they don't have any psykers.

>>54242149
Their melee weapon doesn't do anything, it's just a combat knife.

Also, what about their masks?

Also, the Stalker is from the Captain, why would reivers have a master crafted weapon?

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>>54241817

You don't even really have to kill it, 6 wounds takes the edge off most of its guns and 17 wounds will reduce its effectiveness enormously unless someone actually bought the titan flamer.


And unless they take either a flamer or a mega bolter its ability to kill infantry is pretty limited. Granted I'm thinking the vulcan is near mandatory now.

The plasma blast gun will kill a mere 4.05 MEQs on normal and 4.86 if overcharged. 3.24 MEQs and 4.05 if they have cover, respectively.

The turbo laser destructor is even worse at 2.31 or 1.85 in cover.

The vulcan will kill a pretty respectable 9.26 MEQ or 7.4 in cover.

Inferno gun will kill 7.78 MEQs or 6.22 in cover.

So yeah, the age of the double turbolaser warhound is over. Its only good at killing vehicles or monsters and really only excels at killing other titans or deleting knights.

Warhound anti vehicle numbers. I'll be using a Russ as a target.

1 arm Turbo laser destructor against russ: 16.2 wounds without cover AKA instant death on average rolls.

Titan plasma blastgun (normal):7.29
Titan plasma blastgun (overcharged): 15.56

So the overcharged plasma gun is nearly as good against normal vehicles as the destructor, which only pulls ahead when its macro rule pops.

Vulcan mega bolter: 9.25. Still really respectable, it'll do over half of the HP of a Russ per turn if you run out of marines to shred.

Titan inferno gun: 15.55

Surprising turn of events but the titan flamer will actually shit all over normal tanks due to its 4 damage.


So yeah the fluffy plasma gun + vulcan warhound is completely viable and the inferno gun is actually good.

The turbo laser is still good because it'll fucking delete one knight per turn and has a good chance of crippling another warhound but its specialized anti-titan tech now instead of just a no brainer.

>>54242149

They only show the points for the MC stalker rifle on that page because thats for the captain m8. They only get heavy bolt pistols and maybe power swords as upgrades

>>54242199
There's art with one of them with a regular bolter, too.

>>54242174
>Also, what about their masks?
What about it? Do you really expect a dollarstore Halloween accessory to have rules?

>>54241875

Space sharks are all grey
Carcharodons use grey paint
No paint worries here

>>54242120

More bolter bitches. Seriously, we're really good this edition.

>>54242324

How to sex a Shark Marine:

Step 1: Restrain the Marine.
Step 2: Flip the Marine over.
Step 3: Closely examine the genital area of the Marine.
Step 4: Marines from the Space Shark genus will have a red dorsal stripe on their head. Carcharodons will have white coloration on the lower face, and/or white/black markings throughout the fur.

>>54242323
they have vox amplifiers in them like Howling Banshees or Night Lords. They literally deafen their foes before attacking.

>>54242341
Just normal bolter bitches? I'm surprised. Is nothing else worth their points in the ministorum?

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>>54242323
I wouldn't be surprised if they had something similar to pic related.

>>54241620
Nah those look cool

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>What are the best fluff changes of 8e so far?

>What are the worst fluff changes of 8e so far?

>>54242500

Primaris Marines.

Primaris Marines.

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>>54241401

How many of the new Easy-To-Build™ sets did y'all preorder? I'm getting 4 of the new Reivers™ kits

>>54242500
>Black Templar have thousands of marines again
>Primaris, it should have just been a new armor mark

>>54242560
Zero, because I'm waiting for the REAL MATURE ADULTS' kits. You're not the guy who was gonna buy 2 Reiver boxes then spilled your spaghetti and bought twice as many after seeing how cheap they were, are you?

do we have fluff about how Primaris marines act?
they were trained subliminally while in test tubes, so do they even have personalities? are they basically just robots because of the way they were grown and deployed?

>>54242560
5 reiver boxes, 3 squads of 5 men.

I'll end up having to buy another easy to build set, as I'm giving it away on my youtube channel at the end of this month.

>>54242577

They're like 30k legionnaires. Basically just regular guys turned into superhumans.

>>54242471

Sisters are 9pt models with access to BS3+ meltas along with flamers and heavy flamers. If you're taking other Ministorum units, Arcos and Crusaders are nice, especially Arcos, but they have to reach melee first. Personally, I think you're better off just buying more sisters with IFlamolators. A squad of 5 sisters with combi-flamer, flamer, and heavy flamer inside an IF immolator with an extra storm bolter is 187pts.

>>54242604
But they aren't regular guys, they weren't recruited, they were grown artificially. They have no lives prior to being marines.

>>54242654

Literally every assertion you make in that post is false. All four of them.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong. Source: Dark Imperium.

>>54242654
They are regular guys
They were recruited for Cawl's project
Those were stasis pods not cloning vats
They were normal people hoping to join the legions

>>54242654

>They have no lives prior to being marines.

You sound like a recruiter.

>>54242621
So, just spam Dominion?

>>54241631

Using Tau you'd want to just throw as much Str 5 at it as you can possibly muster. Which is alot.
Basic gun wounds it 1/3 times and titan fails its save 1/3 times
As well as smart missiles plus ATS

>>54242729

Son I got a job for you, there's travel and adventure and a lots of fun, we'll even teach you how to shoot a gun, there's room and board and a plate of food, and a brand new tailored business suit!

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>>54242571
>this whole post
How can one Anon be so right?

>>54242571

I don't understand why Primaris couldn't have just been new gear. Like how bolt rifles are way better than bolters, the Mk X can simply be way better and give +1W and +1T +1W for Gravis.

This way the only thing barring chapters from accepting or rejecting them is really how good at resupplying they are instead of this whole new schism between Primaris and old marines

You get to keep the "different rules, forcing sales" part too.

Best way to run a Crusader Squad?
Thinking EC, Grimaldus, and his Servitors, plus a full strength blob of the lads.

>>54242852
what chapters aren't taking Primaris marines?

How good are Hellions against Tau? How about vs Tau in Planetstrike?

Orks had the best game of their life today. I was hitting with over half my shots every time

Absolutely krumped some necrons

How good is the thunderbolt? I want a small attack fighter for my guard

>>54242939
I don't think they listed any, other than saying some chapters reject them and their current acceptance rate is like 94% so there's at least 60 chapters out there that don't want them.

>>54242939

No canon that have been stated. Apparently the Raven Guard distrust theirs, but I have no source on that and it might be bullshit.

The Carcharodons didn't actually get any, since they are kind of outside the Imperium and are doing their own thing, but their author stated they are somehow going to acquire the capability to make Primaris through some secret connections.

Are Icarus arrays any good?

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>want to stay fluffy by deep striking LC assault/tartaros termies into my opponent's face
>getting a 9" charge is laughably unreliable
>they briskly walk away from me after that
>tfw

What do?

>>54243020
I dunno about you but I usually spend my command points on getting at least 1 squad into that first turn 9" charge.

What do you think rebooted IG are going to look like?

>>54243020

I'm in the same situation. So far all I can think of is using your command re-roll to make that 28% success of a 9" charge to a 52%. I'm looking for other ways still.

>>54242654
Further proof that /tg/ doesnt read anything except memes.

>>54242852
Blood Ravens haven't gotten any so far [spoilers] because Crawl hasnt started using heretic gene seeds[/spoilers] [spoilers]but they will just steal a bunch in cryo sleep anyway and re spray their shoulders[/spoilers]

>>54242654
Pretty sure some old marines were "upgraded" to chads

>>54242939

Emperor's Manlets
Unplanned Obsolescence

As far as I know, all Dorn successors of course

>>54242500

Guilliman

Too many huge warp rifts

>>54243066
buy me the book and I'll read it.

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>>54242806
Have the Black Templars and the Iron Warriors ever gone toe to toe because that sounds like a damn cool conflict due to them being a fist successor

>>54243085
>Dorn
Imperial Fists got them though

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>>54241886

>>54243043
Fingers crossed that they are trenchcoat guard with heads to make valhallans and death corps

>>54243121

Imperial Fists are obviously not true Sons of Dorn.

>>54243117
Don't read the Beheading series.

>>54243179
say it to my face, space nigger!

>>54242174
>it's just a combat knife
It's referred to as a power knife, I'd expect some form of AP

>>54243121

pity gift for the special needs legion

>>54243206
GW confirmed on their FB that it's not a power weapon but it is 9" long and made of solid titanium.

>>54241401
How many conscripts would it take to bring down a Warhound?

>>54243206
GW's never referred to it as anything but a combat knife. Just yesterday, their FB admin went off on a rant about how it's a 4 foot long knife and how cool that was.

>>54243076

It's been implied that the Carcharodons might be "acquiring" the ability to create Primaris. Perhaps they are not the only ones obtaining this ability, and that a few more secretive Chapters have their ways of getting the ability.

>>54241401
I fought a dude with custodes and a reaver titan at around 2000 points as my first ever 40k match, i barely won but only because of objectives

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I'm sure this has been posted already but I think this is a new Hellblaster model in this months White Dwarf.

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So I finally got to see Renegades in action tonight.
It was not pretty. Now, a lot of this may come down to me not being good, but they just get wrecked. First game at 500 was against guard, He had a tank against my three units of Disciples and two squads of cultists kitted for melee, and while I got his infantry a few times, I couldn't hurt the tank or keep him off the objective(It was a sabotage mission).
Second was against mechanicus, and it was completely one sided as his Kastelans blasted a unit off the board each shooting phase As Cawl fed them rerolls. For elites, Disciples have no staying power. The Guard player I was up against had vets, and with the amount of flamers and grenade launchers he had I stood no chance in the shooting phase.
The points for games is supposed to rise next week, and I have no idea how to match what else is around the store, seeing as there's Tyranids and blood angels running around, I don't think running with a melee focus is going to work.
It's just frustrating to have never won a game, this edition and last, when I played Skitarii. It's killing my enthusiasm for my army.

>>54243235
depends, did they fix bayonets first?

>>54243252
The ability to upgrade existing marines into Primaris is being shared to the chapters now.

>>54243183
Why?

>>54243259
yeah, that's new. The cable goes to a backpack or something, interestingly

>>54243231
>but it is 9" long and made of solid titanium.

That's not even impressive. I would HOPE it was at LEAST that long and sturdy. Maybe they meant a 9" blade. A full tang fixed blade knife is already longer than 9" due to the length of both blade and handle (usually 6"+ for the blade and near 6" for handle, and a full tang inside is easily half the length or more). Titanium is also a terrible steel for a knife's blade.

>>54243235

You need 1890 conscript lasgun shots to kill a warhound, so 473 to one round it withFRFSRF and rapid fire

>>54243285
4 foot long sorry. My brain screwed up.

>>54243235

Prolly fewer than than you could buy for the same cost.

The really funny interaction would be warhound vs doomsday arks.
They'd be invincible to its most powerful weapons.

>>54243259

Glad they made the multi-part Hellblasters look a lot cooler and glad I waited for the non-easy to build ones.

>>54243299
>a lot cooler
they added a cable, faggot.

So I started recently, but have watched battle reports since mid 7th

Are my bikers allowed to shoot both their bike weapons and their held guns? Sorry if it's a stupid question

Is today the day? Will we finally get Morty and DG preview pics?

>>54243315
They can:
A. fire all weapons that are not pistols
OR
B. fire all weapons that are pistols
but not both.

>>54243299

I'm glad I got an extra unit of them so that when they become 5-10 in the codex I can have 1 unit of 10 old ones and 1 unit of the new ones (or their alternate weapon)

Necrons are a bitch and a half to fucking kill

Lychguard are near impossible to wipe out

>>54243330
OH that makes the special weapon bikers better

Thanks a lot brother

>>54243312

Major ammo feed cable
Secondary power cable
Front grip power cable
Better leg stance with bent knees
Larger backpack with additional metal clearly visible from the front
>head actually level and looking fully to the side

The starter Hellblasters look like shit, you just have penis for eyes.

>>54243346
maybe if you don't know how to play.

>>54243235
>>54243292

1419 points for one turn kill plus commisar
A more interesting question, what is the most point efficient way to kill that titan

>>54243259
>Hellblaster with plasma incinerator+power amp
>unit no longer suffers wounds from overcharging rolls of 1

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Anyone have the dataslate for the Sonic Dread? I can't find it anywhere, but I hear good things.

>>54243348
>turbo autism
you sure told him.

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>>54242199
>>54242218

>>54243364
Nah, I'd expect
>on a roll to hit of 1 the bearer takes a mortal wound

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>>54243312

Your models are probably generic plastic GW Mk 7 with zero conversions and standard poses and look like dog shit, niggerdamus.

>>54243380
Holy shit they're batman

>>54243348
Are...are you the only human being in the world that actually likes GW's ridiculous poses?

>>54243358
enlighten me

>>54243372
>him

You mean "me", because you're the only faggot in here who's too stupid to capitalize but will still punctuate. Call intelligence and being able to actually observe things autism all you want. I'd rather be an "autist" by your logic than a blind, retarded faggot with shit taste like you.

inb4 guaranteed response

So, I'm looking to get into 40k with Necrons. What are the core units that I should look into getting?

>>54243396
There's not a single model in my army that isn't converted, but ok.
Actually, there's only one, my new Stormhawk.

>>54243312
>>54243358
>>54243372
kys faggot australian

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>>54242166
>Their only weakness is they can't hurt heavy vehicles very well
This used to be the complete opposite too. Makes me sad we lost gauss special rules, but now everything can hurt everything so it doesn't really matter.

>>54243396
>>54243414
>blatant samefagging.
ok.

>>54243425
>Stormhawk
they added a cockpit swap, faggot.

>>54243363

Funnily enough macro weapons are dramatically better at killing Titans than equal points of conscripts. That 2x 2D6 damage on warhound turbo lasers is fucking brutal.

One warhound with double turbos will either cripple or oneshot another warhound and unlike conscripts it can do it across the table (or actually from two tables away)

>>54243020
Play Chaos so you can use Warptime, duh.

>>54242166
This. It's also the best way to deal with apothecaries since those are made redundant if the whole squad is wiped out.

>>54243435
>implying I ever claimed not to be the same person
>they're posts in response to two different fucking posts
>still responds after being inb4'd

Congratulations, your retard levels single-handedly explain /tg/'s current shittiness.

>>54243411
Shoot everything you have at one Necron unit at a time, until it's dead. That solves your problem.

>>54243462
So leave /tg/, niggerfaggot

>>54243463
god forbid if one is left alive though

>>54243471

Make me, dickless wonder.

>>54242739
Yes and no
For example BSS with combi flamer, Heavy Flamer and flamer is 82 points
While the same 5 girls but with 3 Storm Bolter and the superior with a power maul is 55 points.
You can basically put more bodies when not using flamers.

Flame weapons at least for SoB need to be half priced more less. Since the bloody things are useless without a transport

Now regarding Dominions melta spam is still usefull, grab some Repressor and relive part of the glory of melta Dominion in Repressors during 7th.

The thing is Dominions are more usefull for melta spamming while normal girls are either for flamer or SB.

MSU all day every day seem to be how it works for SoB. Unless we are talking about Seraphims and Retribution or any church melee unit.

>>54243473
Nobody said it was easy buddy. Doesn't mean it isn't the most efficient manner of slaughtering them though

>>54243438
Macro weapons are just ridiculous
Makes titan oneshot themselves

Anyway, I think the tigershark is pretty potent for it. Maybe the cheapest macro platform, and no titanic tag
At 550~ points, if it lands a shot that isn't saved by an invul. Average 14 wounds against titanic
It gets 2 shots

>>54243346
Too bad that is all Lychguard can do. Their melee is fine, but trying to actually get them to cc is fucking impossible. The enemy can just walk away. Praetorians are the best option this edition, I am happy I build them instead when I got the box.

>>54243491

>necrons are hard to kill
>>no, you just have to do something hard to kill them
???

So each of my psykers has to know a different power right?

I cant say, have two psykers know a power, so if one fails the other can attempt?

>>54243517
>necrons are hard to kill
>here's a way to make them slightly less painful to kill

>>54243497
I'm loving the Praetorians too. My C'Tan needs a posse while he's assaulting fliers.

>>54243043
I'm betting they'll get steel legion plastics with actually good proportions, if they get new plastics at all

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>>54241401
R8 my Engiseer/Inquistor WIP:

Fig is from Warmachine, Convergence Of Cyriss, axe is from Dominus, gun and back pack are from Sicarians.

Any ideas on how to make her look more admech?

>>54243525

Then why even insult the guy?

>>54243545
I didn't insult anyone you triple nigger. Fuck off.

>>54243518
No, multiple psykers can KNOW the same power

But only Smite can be CAST more than once in the same psychic phase.

The gorkanaut is absolutely disgusting this edition

Putting out 18 fucking attacks, on top of all that firepower AND theres guys inside

Im tearing through units of infantry like theyre confetti

>>54243560
>Fuck off.
you first, you big meanie

>>54243560

lol alright
feeling bored tonight I see

>>54243569
But can the same power be ATTEMPTED more than once in the same phase?

Say one psyker fails, can the other try the same spell?

>>54243584
>retard asks how to do something simple
>explain how to do said simple thing
>"squeee squeee stop being le meanie to me :("
Head on back to 1d4chan.

>HQs
>AoBR Warboss
>Kitbashed Weirdboy
>Finecast Bigmek

>TROOPS
>90+ Slugga/Choppa Boyz
>20-ish Shoota Boyz
>10 Gretchin, assorted Ammo Runts, 2 Runtherd

>ELITES
>30-ish Nobz
>3 Nobz on Warbikes
>1 single Burna
>Mad Dok Grotsnik

>FAST ATTACK
>5 Stormboyz

>HEAVY SUPPORT
>Battlewagon
>Converted Battlewagon
>3 Killa Kanz
>15 Lootas

>DEDICATED TRANSPORT
>5 GorkaMorka Trukks
What do I buy next, friends?

>>54243588
No. Only Smite.

>>54243595
aw shucks, you got me, reddit..

>>54243598
More Stormboyz. 5 ain't gonna do shit.

10 tankbustas in a trukk killed a monolith across 2 turns

good lord these things are strong

>>54243618
I only have 5 cause I didn't like them

>>54243598
Get at least 90 more grotz

>>54243628
Get out.

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Play any games today? Also, overall, who's been the most fun army for you to fight in 8th? My favorite army to fight against so far has been Chaos. Good mix of shooting and close combat, which I really enjoy doing as well.

I played 3 games today at 750 for our escalation league. I lost all 3 games.

First was against Genestealer Cult player who I beat pretty hard yesterday. He had some really good rolling on his Broodlord who kept avoiding death. Highlight was Straken failing a 4 inch charge, rolling a 1 and a 2, then re-rolling the 1, rolling a 1 again, then being out in the open alone and getting Missiled for 5 damage killing him from full HP. Fun game over all, but it was a solid loss and a good sense of revenge for my opponent.

Second game was a total curb stomp. I played against a Custodes/Primaris player. 5 Custodes, a Custodes Land Raider, 5 Hellblasters, 5 Intersecssors and Greyfax. I killed 3 Custodes and was nearly tabled in return. I conceded because there was no way for me to do anything.

Last game was against Chaos and was a blast. One of the best games I've had so far. It went to turn 7 and he won by a hair. My mistake was not positioning my Chimera better for linebreaker. He needed 6 wounds to kill it and rolled exactly 6 on the bottom of 7, winning by a point. Highlight was Straken, Nork and Bullgryn going beast mode.

>>54243624
With squighbombs or just firing tons of rokkits untill some hit ?
Or tankhammers ? Those things are hilarious, though I doubt their usefulness

Have you ever seen a female player come into a shop to play a game under her own volition? IE not dragged along by a boyfriend?

>>54243649
straight rokkits

>>54243649
The reroll-to-hit-vehicles alone dramatically amped them up

>>54243660
Even more shocking, at our local LGS there once was a lady who walked in because she was interested in 40k and wanted to know more. She even came back for a demo game, bought Mechanicus, and has now signed up for our 8th edition campaign.

>>54243642
Sorry, I'm just not a fan of their models and against my preferred opponent (Tau) they're in their backline far too early.

>>54243660
No but every time I drag my girlfriend and someone asks, we pretend that she's the one who dragged me

>>54243448

Sharks only act like heretics, but are firmly loyal, thank you.

>>54243660
At my store there's 1 that plays a lot and comes in on her own. She grew up playing with her brother so she got into it at a young age and stuck with it. She's a really good sport and a decent player. She only really gets destroyed by WAAC players, but otherwise she holds her own and if she wins or loses, it's only by a little bit.

The other girl was admittedly brought in by her boyfriend many times and he got her to make an army. She comes in time to time on her own to play, but it's not that often. She mostly comes in with her boyfriend to chit chat or for painting competitions.

>>54243689
That's incredibly shocking. Every girl I've met got into it because of a boyfriend or brother or cousin and even sometimes a dad. It's never out of random curiosity.

Can someone explain why Wazdakka Gustmek was removed from the codex going into 7th? And even worse, why was Boss Grukk, who was INTRODUCED in 7th, removed in 8th? I thought every model was getting rules?

>>54243775
Right now we have Indexes. They aren't the same as a Codex. This was just a temporary thing to make sure we could all play for like 6 months while they released all the new Codices. All kinds of variety and special characters will be introduced before the years end probably.

>>54243749
Where are girls going to ever randomly encounter 40K? Are there even horses in 40K anymore? Girls love horses.

>>54243020

Transport your termies onto Stormravens and then shit them on the enemy. And then point out to your opponent that they're actually called Stormsharks.

>>54243785
Please have looting please have looting please have looting

>>54242149
So you need to put two sets to field a minimum squad?

>>54241620
nope, that'd be awesome

>>54243785
>6 months
they won't even have half of the codexes out in that time, my dude, we'll be here in 3 years asking when the Nid codex and shit is going to come out.
>>54243825
unless you field them as an under power unit.

>>54243844
10 by Christmas anon.

>>54242041
Same here. Half the fun of playing vanilla marines is organizing and painting them according to the codex astartes. waiting for the new codex to drop before doing my primaris so I can do it properly too

>>54243885
>gw sells another lie

>>54243493

Tigersharks kinda strange in that its super good if you go first, otherwise its exceedingly vulnerable for its price by having essentially having leman russ defense stats with a -1 hit penalty.

Superb against titans but if the titan player goes first they can just eat the -1 to hit with their BS2+ and blow the tigershark out of the sky (or two of them with the right weapon loadouts). So its another rocket launcher dodgeball scenario but with a 550 point model instead of a 1500 point one, thankfully.

>>54243898
Time will tell if it's a lie or not.

Is the Dark imperium ebook in the OP megs? I can't find it

So how does allying in 8th edition work?

Dusting off my old army and was thinking of getting some scions for an auxiliary force

>>54243898
We already know which 4 armies will get their codex next and in which order they will be released.
I'm all for pessimism and being cynical, but not when it turns into straight up denial of reality.

>>54243918
As long as your army is imperial, you're golden.

>>54241620
Worth every penny

>>54243918
All units in the same detachment (and in the whole army for Matched Play aka the only way to play) have to share at least one similar faction Keyword. This means that if you pick Imperium you can pretty much toss whatever you like in the same FOC and still have a battleforged army.

>>54243918

All Imperium units can be in the same army with zero gimmicks or strings attached.

All eldar can be in the same army unless they're ynnari which have some limitations

All chaos can be in the same army and can take imperial guard through Renegades and Heretics

Genestealer cults can straight up bring imperial guard now.

No cross faction allies besides those listed above

>>54243367
Read the most recent FAQ

>>54243912

I just remembered, the Necron Pylon was it, is basically broken. So until that gets nerfed, it is the top dog.
The shark does decent work for its price and isn't super broken

>>54243809

>Stormsharks

I am totally doing that if I get a raven, but A) I don't have one and B) I want it to be fluffy, which means teleport strikes. I'll happily drop assmarines out of planes, though while my scouts watch

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>>54243959
Much obliged. I "looked at the FAQ, but didn't really see it.

Time to get converting I guess.

>>54243974

The main problem with the tigershark is going to be that, while its got some absurd damage and strength, its still only getting two shots at BS3+ against a titan with a 4++ invul save, which means that its average damage output will be good (its doing about 7.78 to a warhound per turn) but it can spike or completely whiff pretty often.

So save them rerolls for it.

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>>54243917
Found it
>>54243158
Thanks man. Download works but holy shit that site is so virulent Nurgle must have had a hand in making it

>>54243974

Oh and because I totally forgot to address it, Pylon vs warhound: 12.44 wounds per turn. Respectable, especially for 475 points.

>>54244047
>25 popups blocked

>>54243660
Yep. We have two LGS and both of them have one girl each that works there and plays of their own volition. The one I frequent has two girls (female) and one girl (male) outside of the one who works the counter.
The one who works there plays Dark Angels and paints like a pro, she even does commission work for a lot of the people in the store on the side.
Of the two who don't work there, one plays Dark Eldar, and the other plays a mostly-Tzeentch Daemons army. The girl (male), if that counts, plays Nids.

>>54243950
>No cross faction allies besides those listed above
F A L L E N
A
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L
E
N

>>54244091
>The girl (male), if that counts
It does not.

>>54244091
>The girl (male), if that counts, plays Nids.
Well, that's the realest girl there, because we all know girls love Nids.

>>54244069
respectable is putting it mildly

>>54244029
Just need to land the one shot though to really bring it down in effectiveness.
Down one tier after losing a mere 6 wounds and its voids are at a 5+ and its BS at 3+.
One shot averages 14 wounds, just shy of dropping it to BS4+ and voids 6+

Titans start off real tough but once you crack them a bit, they weaken fast

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How's this list, anons? I made it for fun.

Khorne Daemons Outrider Detachment:
•Karanak, 116
•Herald of Khorne on Juggernaut, 100
•2x3Bloodcrushers with Icon and Instrument, 176 (352)
•4x5 Flesh Hounds, 100 (400)
Total, 968

>>54242041
I appreciate players like you. That's the way it should be. You do your thing, you care about it, you put in effort and passion, and you let other people do what they do. Critiquing painting skills and army composition is a different ballgame, but there's no real reason to shit all over someone for doing what they want in terms of modeling and lore.

At my store most of the players are the lore accurate type. Most play iconic Marine chapters and if they play other types of armies, they follow along with established paint schemes. I get some flack for kitbashing a decent amount of models in my army. I'm not sure what the big deal is, they are accurately sized and showing the correct wargear. I assume they think it's cringy and that I'm trying to be too hard to be unique, which is fair enough. There's just so much creative potential with this hobby, I feel like it would be a waste to not indulge in that to create my own army.

I guess that's the different mentality between players. There are those that like the lore and want to recreate it accurately on the tabletop and on their models. And then there are people who see how vast the 40k universe is and want to make it more personal.

Hey dudes, I'm pretty new to 40K, and I'm scheduled to play a 1250pt game with my friend soon. He plays Grey Knights and I play Thousand Sons, any advice?

>>54244177
>You do your thing, you care about it, you put in effort and passion, and you let other people do what they do.

People should be more like this outside of 40k too.
Personally I only get upset when people are clearly just doing something for game advantage, like that one person with unspecified chapter space marines that are Blood Angels one month, Space Wolves after that, then turn into Grey Knights, and then into White Scars, depending on which army is the most WAAC at the moment.

>>54244199
Watch out with any of your units that have the Daemon keyword, he'll fuck them up bad if you aren't careful.

>>54244199
Don't forget you get a +1 save to 1 damage weapons. Watch out for their D3 damage on their force weapons.

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Ok anons.. is this thing worth the points? if so .. i've got an old landraider spartan i'm reparing (missing weapons) should i go all the way or just turn it back into a land raider?

>>54243043
>What do you think rebooted IG are going to look like?
excuse me did I miss something?

>>54244199
Don't take any Disks of Tzeentch, they give you the DAEMON keyword and therefore are guranteed to screw you over.

>>54244199
Bring Magnus and make sure to not fill up on Daemons.

>>54244249
>>54244248

Thanks, I'm trying to keep the daemons in the back.

Are Rubrics worth it or should I run the terimes? Seems like the s4 ap-2 isn't gonna stop me when his draigo deathball smashes my face.

>>54243789
>Horses
Rough riders?

>>54244199
He's always gonna be able to attempt to deny any psychic powers you're gonna cast, and will most likely deep strike/teleport his units in your face if he has any competence.
Your units should win a shoot-out, but in melee your Rubricae are gonna get fucked because all GK have melee weapons with D3 or more damage, and punishing save modifiers too. So have some units ready to recieve/deny charges, then have them fall back and shoot the unit that used to be in melee to shreds.

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my table looks like ass, who makes the best gaming mat? I'm looking at the frontline gaming ones and tablewar as well. Anyone have any experience and know who makes nicest one?

>>54244274
Taking SO Terminators is quite a gamble, as all GK have melee weapons that might do 2 wounds after just a single failed save.

If Draigo charges something, just walk away and shoot him, you'll never win a punch-out against him. Focus him with smite spam if you can.

>>54244274
They're both worth it for different reasons but if you are definitely going to get charged bring the flamers and make sure he charges the flamer unit. If that unit survives, fall it back and then light his crew up with everyone else in your army. In the event that the crew he charges dies, make sure to position your other units far enough back from the flamer screen unit so that he can't consolidate into your other guys without soaking another overwatch.

Smart deployment is super key against armies that are definitely going to be trying to charge.

>>54244199
Another tip: Try to divide and conquer if you get first turn. That is, deepstrike a Scarab occult squad behind his lines and have them first turn charge one of his units, and if you're lucky he'll panic and send one of his deep strikers in to deal with it. Then have the other part of your forces deal with the other squads

>>54244166
>•Karanak, 116
This has to cease

>>54243417
Start with the SC box and pick up another box of warriors and a Ghost Ark. Also get a Cryptek. This set-up is the bread and bitte of the Necron force. Add immortals, Doom Scythes, Lychguard, and Praetorians at your leisure, but never stray too far from warrior blobs, a Ghost Ark, and at least 1 Cryptek to baby sit with a unit of scarabs to screen them.

My best list involves that set up with a mix of auxiliary elite units and max unit size for both the warrior squads. 40 skelebots with a 4+ come-back twice a turn is incredibly difficult to remove.

>>54244357
>Cryptek
REEEEE

>>54244282
Yeah, do they still exist? If so, GW needs to market Rough Riders to girls.

Easy money.

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Thinking of doing a primaris-only Lamenters army fluffed as a fresh new company. So far I've got a list written up for a Librarian Dreadnought, Gravis Captain, Intercessors and Hellblasters.

My question: What would be more Lamenter-like, Reivers or Inceptors?

>>54244344
You don't even have to charge with the Scarab Occult, they have enough firepower that they can't be ignored easily. Not to mention that it is very likely that if the SO terminators do charge something that unit just turns around and fucking murders the SO with their Nemesis Force weapons.

>>54244328
>>54244273
>Draigo
>Magnus

>1250

Explain

>>54244291
>>54244273
>>54244267
>>54244329
>>54244344

Thanks for all the advice guys. I'm hoping I just have enough firepower to deal with his shit since he loves terminators and paladins.

>>54244385
The idea is that he panics and sends his deep strikers to deal with the scarab occults behind his lines. This effectively prevents him from being able to coordinate his army as a single piece which is incredibly important in a low model count army.

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>>54243535
The first of my Ghetto Electro-Priests. I cannot stand the models as is, so Conversions it is. Any clue on how to hide his Necrontyr Emblem on his chest?

>>54244387
Explain what ? They're both not that expensive.

>>54244406
They only need to be able to shoot to do that. If they charge something and get murdered by the unit they charged (which is likely) you did his job for him, because there are no longer any SO he has to deal with.

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>>54244374
Forgeworld has some

But yeah most girls here go in for the painting and cool models, then leave due to the people there

>>54244387
They cost much less than 1250
what dont you get

>>54244355
I swear this is a stealth forced meme, not overt like shitsteranon, but crafty

>>54244438
>>54244442
It's just shitty to bust those dudes out at that range.
1500-1750 min, depending on the local flavour of your shop.

>>54244379

Inceptors.

>>54244431
greenstuff

>>54244456
>It's just shitty to bust those dudes out at that range.
Welcome to 40k

>>54244431
Conversion tip:
Invest in bluestuff and green stuff,
Bluestuff will let you make molds to use the green stuff in

>>54244438
Fair enough. Deepstrike in and shoot. That should do the trick and draw a wedge between two halves of his forces.

>>54244431
>doesn't like Electro Priests

I bet you like the Kastelens you banana-eating heathen

>>54244456
I've played vs draigo since 1k, never had ANY problem killing that nig

(playing fluffy DA)

>>54244473
Nah, I've been here long enough that I remember when people would look at that advice with scorn.
The assumption that Draigo will be in every GK list is just a drag and also a testament to how bad our roster is but oh well
>>54244483
Not my point.

>>54243101
>what is the mega and how does it work?

>>54243158
>>54243101

>>54244461
>>54244475
Greenstuff might be a good idea for the neck cavity; it is rather big, and I'm afraid it wont make a good connection. But im afraid it wont help with the Emblem, due to it being a raised detail.

>>54244480
Caught me Mephiston Red Handed. I love me some Derp bots, but I hate the ELECTRO looking mother fuckers.

>>54244483

Grand Master nig to you

>>54244396
Terminators and paladins are definitely going to lose a shoot-out with Thousand Sons. Terminator units spam is no longer the way to go with GK, you should do fine if you deploy smart so he can never charge much more than one unit.

>>54244477
Just remember that if you do strike a unit like that, they are going to die. It's a lot better of a choice if you want for the enemy to commit to something on their first turn and THEN drop the strike, because after committing they won't be able to ignore your strikers but also will have to pull out of whatever they committed to if they respond with their main force.

My rule of thumb is to strike and kill a valuable unit if I know my strikers can murder whatever the target is that I need dead in one turn opponent left it open, otherwise to strike after they make their move and suddenly have a fresh crew to turn the tides.

It can be a tough call especially when you're new, but that's what playing lots of games is for.

>>54244518
I agree with this assessment, rend fucks up terminators really bad now unless they are 3++ of course

>>54244439
See, you put a bunch of plastic horses in a cheap box set, girls will give the game a shot. They should have a viable army that is entirely on horseback.

A space dinosaur army might help, too. Most girls play nids because they're kinda like monstrous pets.

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Do you think people would mind if I used a converted Megaboss with a deff dread klaw on his axe as a Warboss in Power Armor? With the axe counting as a power klaw?
Or even just as a regular old boss?

>>54244554
can grey knights get more storm shields in the chapter? Or are we only approved for Draigo's.

>>54244565
And on that note, are there rule for base size?

>>54244592
I'd suggest taking a look in the book and also your codex is coming out really soon so that too. But no, I dunno I was just sayin' watch out for 3++ terminators they survive shooting well.

>>54244531
Maybe dropping the Scarab Occult not too far from the rest of the army is a good idea, because those guys are slow as fuck with only 4'' movement.

>>54244592
GK Chappies WHEN?

>>54244565
Just tell your opponent up front, and most people will be fine with it. As long as it looks cool.

>>54244594
Nothing mentioned in the core rules of on datasheets for bases. Just do what looks best for your mini, so go big if he's bigger.

>>54243170
>>54243043
fuck. they're going to make us ODST aren't they?

>>54244630
Would be fun.

>>54244592
Currently Librarians are the only ones that can have a stormshield besides Draigo, but they're likely to go back to not having that option once GK get their own codex again.

>>54244565
nah no one will mind.

that sounds cool.

>>54244615
Agreed. I like using deep strike gunlines (in my case Chaos Termies+Termie Lord all with combi-plasma) like that.

They come in, thinking they'll smash whatever, I drop in the plasma and just shred the shit out of them when they thought they'd only be facing a little bit of fire.

>>54244624
Any time I mention chaplains give Draigos aura in the fight phase sperglords tell me gks never had chaplains. Less about the lore more about not wanting to take draigo every game due to his aura.

Also ordo malleus keyword when

>>54244665
>gks never had chaplains
Not even true though.

>>54244642
Yeah and they can gimmick it to a 2++.
>>54244679
When did we have a chaplain?

>>54244679
>>54244665
Also, why the hell doesn't Crowe have Psychic Locus?
>>54244700
>When did we have a chaplain?
One of the GK books mentions them.
I think there's mention of them in an OOOLD White Dwarf.

>>54241880
>not using lemon-scented plastic cement.

>>54244565

I don't care as long as the base size is right and the wargear is right. That megaboss already has some sort of armor on, and if you swap the big choppa for an actual klaw then I don't see any reason to complain.

>>54244709
>>54244709
Old grey Knights models weren't even psykers and they had fucking storm shields.

But that's cool to know, maybe Crowe will be not shit in the codex, maybe we'll get Thrawn back

>>54244624
>that feel when you're too loyal to have loyalty checking officers

>>54244760
Think it's more like
>Yo, Chaps, there's this Daemon I really want to kill but I don't know how and it's driving me up a wall
>OK BATTLE-BROTHER GO KILL HIM
>t-thanks Chaplain-san

>>54244565
>Do you think people would mind if I used a converted Megaboss with a deff dread klaw on his axe as a Warboss in Power Armor? With the axe counting as a power klaw?
>Or even just as a regular old boss?


(The big choppa is better anyway)

>>54244750
I mean, that's the thing. I don't WANT to replace the axe. I want him to be holding an axe with a deff dread klaw (specifically the saw) on the end.
I'd just say it as a counts as a klaw personally.
>>54244792
Yeah, sadly the MA boss needs a klaw so gotta make do.

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And because I'm being an autist about robots, I might as well throw in some math for other super heavies

Shadowsword cannon: 7.25 wounds per turn
Shadowswords 4 lascannons: 2.33 wounds
Shadowswords 5 twin HBs: 2.22 wounds
total: 11.8 for 580 points or 49.15 points per wound inflicted

Falchions double volcano cannons: 14.525
Falchions 8 lascannons: 4.67
Total: around 19.2 for 817 points 42.55 points per wound inflicted

Knight Porphyrions magna lascannons: 13.33
Knight Porphyrions 2 regular lascannons: 1.46
Total: 14.79 for 790 points or 53.41 points per wound inflicted

Revenant titans two pulsars: 13.61
Revenant titan missiles: 1.94
Total: 15.55 for 1,200 points or 77.17 points per wound inflicted.

Tigershark is actually a pretty bad 74.94 points per wound inflicted against a warhound which is quite surprising.

Gauss pylon is 38.18 points per wound inflicted, which is probably the best efficiency I've seen so far. Immobile is probably not worth quite the points reduction that FW has been giving those units.

But at least it looks like most Imperial options are in the same ballpark as each other as far as Titan killing efficiency goes, with the Falchion being the clear leader.

>>54244129

>respectable is putting it mildly

Its about 10% more efficient than a falchion point to wounds inflicted, which is pretty damn good but still in the same ballpark. Then again that may just speak to how good the falchion is.

>>54244493

>and also a testament to how bad our roster is but oh well

P
A
G
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s

>>54244700

The first Grey Knights book by Ben Counter has a GK chaplain, 3rd edition fluff.

>>54244861
They're not very good.
Interceptors are strong as hell, but bog standard PAGKs aren't worth it over GKTs imo

>>54244869
Books aren't canon for reasons exactly like this

>>54244883
There is absolutely no reason GKs shouldn't have Chaplains

There's a guy who's probably going to be playing a Lord of Skulls in our first 8th edition tournament which they've decided they want to do at 1000 points.

what is the counter to stupid stuff like that?

>>54244872

You get double the shooting per point, the same melee per point and immunity to damage 2+ ruining your day. All in exchange for going from 2+ to 3+.

You also get to run around in razorbacks and get cheaper psycannons

The real redpill is realizing GKTs aren't ever worth taking over paladins and that strikes are the best troop choice for any astartes.

>>54244883

This was precedent setting fluff that came out concurrently with the 3.5 codex that gave us anything beyond a small blurb about GKs.

Also it completely nailed the tone of GKs far better than the 5th or 7th ed codexes.

>>54244893
Besides the fact that Chaplains would be able to instantly tell that GK get their power from daemons?

>>54244861
PAGK is disappointing. Terminators need a cost reduction or something.
>>54244869
Would be nice to have some. Chaplains are hqs normally right?

>>54244900

>Besides the fact that Chaplains would be able to instantly tell that GK get their power from daemons?

I...what?

You know the chaplain would be a psyker too right?

and that marine chaplains don't hate their chapter librarians either

>>54244872
That might have been true previous editions, but in 8th you're never gonna have enough damage output to fight the horde spam if you take terminators. Not to mention that terminators no longer have any advantage with moving and firing heavy weapons.
A 10 man purgation squad with 4 psycannons is cheaper than 5 terminators with 1 psycannon and a daemonhammer.

>>54244898
A whole bunch of anti-tank with 48" range and then laugh? He will be visible from anywhere on the board, even if he goes first he won't kill your anti-tank in one turn, just shoot him to death and collect your free win.

>>54244898

Got the stats and points cost of it?
And what army(s) do you play?

>>54244847

So yes the Pylon is just absurd

>>54244922
How do I do it as Orks? Tankbustas and Lootas die very quickly and the 5+ bs makes it very hard to really consistently get damage.

>>54244899
>You also get to run around in razorbacks
I had considered returning to MSU and using Vortimer RBs, but I just dunno.
Psilencers might be worth looking into, but I need to play around a little more.
>>54244900
What the fuck?

>>54244939
I'm sorry I don't know anything about orks. Maybe anti-armor melee is how you handle shit like that

>>54244939

Orks huh... Dunno much about what you got?
Just spam... Boyzz?

>>54244925

>So yes the Pylon is just absurd

Its clearly undercosted but I wouldn't put it on the same shelf as conscript spam.

>>54244940

Psilencers are okay but psycannons are still where its all at.

Psycannons have the efficiency of TWO autocannons against 1W models and the same efficiency as 1 autocannon against multiwound models, all for about the same price (factoring in the cost of the GK). The only thing you really trade is range, which is why you deep strike.

Sadly the vortimer pattern razorback is kinda meh because assault cannons just got plain buffed to be superior to psycannons against MEQs, although the psycannons are still better against most vehicles.

Now the doom glaive dread is worth every penny since it gets a heavy psycannon.

>>54244939
Tankbustas now reroll all failed hits against vehicles, including shooting
Meganobz still fuck shit up in melee, get the charge with them and there'll be pain

>>54244431
Don't, praise the voi... Omnissiah.

>>54244984
>Now the doom glaive dread is worth every penny since it gets a heavy psycannon.
I'm really struggling not to buy a couple of these. They're so undercosted.

>>54244900

>Besides the fact that Chaplains would be able to instantly tell that GK get their power from daemons?

Thats not how psykers work

>>54244984
Power armor with psycannnons? Been staying away from it since forever is it actually worth losing the falchions for?

>>54244994

They're essentially 3 autocannons and a slightly weaker dread CCW tied together on a venerable chassis, they're great and they look awesome.

>>54244999

Yep, PAGK are as much about shooting as they are about melee now. Storm bolters do a lot of fucking work and if you can get both a rapid fire and a charge off you're going to be putting the hurt on nearly anything.

>>54244999
>falchions
>on anything but a Knight of the Flame or select Paladins
Dude wtf?

1xPsyC has ALWAYS been worth it on GKSS.
4x on Purifiers. This edition might actually have a reason to take Purgators over the 10xPuris Combat Squad.

Can an imperial Guard officer issue orders to himself in close combat to fix bayonets?

>>54244999
Falcion means one more attack in melee range.
Psycannon means 4 shot with Str 7 up to 24'' away. You do the math.

Give me an army that is

>highly mobile
>low model count
>high strength shooting with good damage
>competent in melee

>>54245032
Space Marines

>>54245032
Dark Angels.
Ravenwing for movement
Deathwing for the BEST elite melee dudes.

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>>54243043
Despite having over a dozen preexisting regiments to choose from, GW will make a brand new generic regiment, maybe based on the Tempestus Scion aesthetic, but probably based on Ultramar Auxiliaries because muh Age of Guilliman.

>>54245032
Harlequins I think, Custodes, Deathwatch

>>54245015
I run 2 strike squads in my list but just pure melee. Have to use a terminator squad for troop tax on the 3 cp detachment.

Will try with psycannnons I guess.

>>54245020
Yeah, nah I wouldn't touch psycannnons on power armor in 7th due to salvo. Purifiers don't feel worth the cost, with the nerf to stats they got for whatever reason. But we were talking about strike squads anyway.

>>54245032
Spiky Elves or All the Elves.
Can be done as man mob of monster mash as well.

>>54245032
I assume Eldar, if they kept their basic strengths from 2nd ed onward. Not sure what they have these days, but they fulfilled all that back in the day. Initiative advantage is long gone, but I assume they have a decent move stat to allow you to get the charge more often than not.

>>54245046
>Purifiers don't feel worth the cost, with the nerf to stats they got for whatever reason
One fucking attack
What the hell happened bros?

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>>54243043
Necromunda.

>>54245020

Psycannons on PAGK squads used to be awful because of salvo in 7th since it prevented charging

Sad that purifiers are complete shit now

>>54244999

You'll have falchions on everyone else anyway, losing 2 guys attacks for better shooting isn't a big deal

>>54245046

Big mistake, strikes need their guns and should be teleporting in every time.

Weirdly enough it's interceptors that should be in the rhinos.

I want to like troop terminators but they're just not worth the points over strikes.

Paladins totally are though.

>>54245040
Works, given I'm already making my Scion list into an Ultramar Auxilia themed one.

>>54245080
Paladins are amazing and interceptors getting a 15 inch move via transports is goofy.

Terminators need a cost reduction, would love it if they costed between 32 and 35 a model. As it stands why wouldn't you just take paladins for 9 points more other than troop tax.

>dark angels cant take captain on a bike
>but they can take chaplain, librarians and techmarines on bikes

WAT

Why the fuck cant i take a ravenwing company master?

>>54245021
Ayup.

>>54244984

Aren't conscripts a meme now or are they still legit
Oh, Taunar, you forgot that one. It has one big ace in the hole, <Battlesuit>

>>54245080
>Psycannons on PAGK squads used to be awful because of salvo in 7th since it prevented charging
Disagree.
You really didn't want to be charging with Strikes much at all, I found.
Park a squad of Purifiers on an objective and just blast shit.

Pallies are dope(r) now though, no contest there.
>>54245108
>Why the fuck cant i take a ravenwing company master?
Because Sammy exists duh.
Oh, you wanted a successor chapter AHAHAH counts as

>>54245110
This makes Straken super good in combat then.

>>54245032

Don't know if anything really hits all four well

Tau hit 1,2,3
Custodes hit 2,4
Deldar hit 1,3,4
GKs might hit all 4 atleast somewhat

>>54245032

Knights is the only answer

>>54245059
You can get the charge, but you're playing a list of expensive S3 models. You don't really want to be in melee most of the time.

Harlequins are a totally different kettle of fish though.

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I'm building 2 sentinels right now, but I dunno what weapons to give them. How is the autocannon? I like the look of it and the statline seems pretty well rounded.

>>54245217

Sentinels are like tough HWTs now.

Autocannons are a great all rounder with them but plasma cannons work well as do lascannons if you're just going to camp with them.

>>54245217
Autocannons are pretty solid, especially in large numbers.

>>54245217
I reckon Heavy Flamer on Scouts, Lascannons on Armoured

So my LGS has a 100 power tournament coming up. Are power lists worth posting for feedback or does everyone just run points?

>>54241735
I see people bitching about "muh 50 conscripts squads" all the time but I've yet to see IG player dedicated enough to actually bring that much into a game. I have like 30 of them but I'm too lazy to paint them, it's so fucking boring, so I never actually field them.

>>54244939
Punch it. A bunch of big choppas and/or power klaws will bring it down pretty quickly.
Outside of that, a driveby tankbusta squad in a trukk is a decent option.
Alternatively, you could always just try to tarpit it with more boyz than it can reasonably handle.

>>54245298
Go ahead and post it, I don't think anyone in this thread will throw a tantrum

>>54245303
Conscripts are a huge meme. I've seen mostly Conscript lists run and it's shit. Tons of rolling for almost no pay off.

>>54245040
just need a Roboute Gulliman Leviathan Dreadnought

>>54244439
I wish there were some dynamic, charging krieg rough riders. It's rediculous but the relaxed look completely kills my immersion when actually playing, like they're just fucking bored...

Actually that's pretty krieg...

>>54244565
Would be fine, awesome even.
If you're worried about autists, some guitar wire pipes hanging off the model would look cool and reinforce the power-armour idea.

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>>54245234
>>54245245
>>54245257
thanks guys, ill go for the autocannon

>>54245366
Historical minis is where it's at for Krieg, just grab a pile of WW1 French or German cavalrymen and have a field day.

Can any transport be taken AS a dedicated transport? For anything?
Or does it have to have the Transport icon now

>>54245315
>I don't think anyone in this thread will throw a tantrum

that is bs and you know it

>>54245315
Do you know TG?

Where can I ask duncan painting questions, like the ones on WHTV?

>>54245438
It's a unit type now, so alas the latter.

>>54245450

On the WHTV Facebook page, any other locations I dunno

>>54245450
i think just on the warhammer tv Facebook page.

>>54245450
No, he isn't going to bodypaint your naked ass.

>>54245406
My local community is super against third party miniatures, so that might be an issue. Otherwise I totally would.