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Thrilling Necrons Edition

previous >>54230874 (Cross-thread)

>FAQ:
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>Designer's Commentary (FAQ 0.1)
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Real previous thread
>>54233340
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MOVE ALONG MARINELETS
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Will the Power Klaw arm from the Boyz box work on this torso?
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Here, some Psyker cards for index <CHAOS>

Give me pictures and I'll make one for <YOUR FACTION>
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5TH FOR CUTEDAR!
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>>54237312
I think this would be enough of a change personally.
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Black Templars squad. Guy with the basing got edge highliting, the rest got dry brushing.

Just need transfers and I'm done with my first spess mehrines.
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>>54238068
>not "Don't talk to me or my father's son ever again."
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>>54238111
Those trips are hard to deny but you're missing the point of celebrating the human form here.
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In the light of the new FW FAQ, here's a list with a Fellblade in it.

I'm not sure if I wanna drop the lieutenant and upgrade the captain to Azrael for the 4++ bubble on the Fellblade and full rerolls
Sounds cheesy enough (especially considering that the Dankshrouds are there already)
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>>54238111
Tell me about the Sisters of Battle, why do they put the panties on their helmet?
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>>54238113
I would use darker colors on metal
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>>54238122
>Looks like we can regain wounds through Machina Malifica on overwatch now though, so not all bad...

Happy day!
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>>54238139
Designers had a panty fetish.
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8th edition proof of actual playtesting when?
FAQs for typos proof of otherwise.
Tourney fags busy making the game shit again. Nothing new here.
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>>54238113
Nice job for starting to paint.

Black armour is not an easy thing to paint. If I were you I would do one dark grey edge highlight and leave it at that for now. You will save a lot of time and get them tabletop ready all the sooner, and then you can go back when you feel your skills have sharpened and add a second lighter grey edge.

My two cents anyway
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>>54238111
This looks okay too.
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>>54238137

I'd drop the bike from the tech-marine and a coupel upgades here and there for Azrael
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The FW FAQ makes me really happy as a dreadnought army player.

Also Techmarine Dread when?
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>>54238111
Could work.
But the boobs are missing or the "this is a woman"
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>>54238095
Yes.
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>>54238191
>Techmarine Dread when?

Apothecary Dread when?
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>>54238170
>>54238113
I agree, black armor is not easy at all.
Here's my attempt at a Dark Angel with a legion colour scheme, and to be honest I wish I had a steadier hand...but will try to improve on it
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Somebody photoshop Girlymans face onto this.
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>>54238209

dread dread when
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>>54238218

Chapter master dread when?
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>>54238218
READY.
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>>54238202
The V shape of the armor is a pretty standard female design.
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>>54238230
>he doesn't know
Culln got nommed by Nids and now leads Red Scorpions as a CM Dread.
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Would anyone have or know where to get spare sentinel pilots? Ebay fails me and I hate looking at the empty seats.
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>>54238230
Cullin's a dread now right?

Bjorn's been one forever and he's practically CM
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>>54238245
Would he still be a chapter master? Don't Leviathan Dreads drive the occupants insane?
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>>54238248
http://www.hobbytitan.com/warhammer-40k-bits-astra-militarum-sentinel-pilot/
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>>54238152

I kind of like the bright flash of highlighted metal over the dull black of the Templar power armor. Adds a ton of pop.

>>54238170

Yeah, my first model I just edge highlighted with Fenrisian grey and it was way too bright. For the rest I did a dry brush with 50/50 Abbadon black/Fenrisian grey and it looks a lot better, but still very bright highlighting.

Still can't bring myself to play at FLGS. Those dudes look like hardcore grognards
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>>54238235
>pretty standard female design.

Wat?
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>>54238264
Not this case, no. There is another Chapter (Rainbow Warriors?) with CM Dread. Plus Blood Angel's have Librarian Dreads which is insanity if you think about it. So obviously not all go insane.
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I hate my Tau army. I never went WAAC fag and I only played Like 3 suits back in 6th. I have a riptide only because when he came out he was a centerpiece. I literally played old school gunlines with shit loads of piranhas, devilfish, and hammerheads. I wanted my army to feel very Guard like.

So now 8th comes around and I'm playing mostly the same list with Stealth Suits. No commander spam, I got my 4 blocks of Firewarriors doing stuff. I modeled them after North Vietnamese and even called them the Viet-Tau Sept. But now they just dunk everything. You know I even have a Razorshark Bomber? I used to use it for shits and giggles. Now it's a beast. And suddenly I'm the shops WAAC fag.

Man fuck this army now. It's so much fun to play but it feels like bullshit.

What the shit do I do.
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>>54238209

>Apothecary Dread

>Looms over you with a gigantic dreadnought Narthecium

"HOLD STILL BROTHER, THIS WILL ONLY STING A LITTLE."
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>>54238231
>ONLY QUADS CANS STOP HIM
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>>54238269
Currently unavailable dudebro
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>>54238231
>No heavy flamer toes
>No Lascannon dick
6/10, see me after class.
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>>54238286

>Reductor is a giant vacuum with a blender in the middle of the fist...
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For those that missed it, EC sonic dreds are back, baby.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/09/forge-world-faq-july9gw-homepage-post-4/
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>>54238245

>Still has no rules other than a standard leviathan

I want a leviathan with the reroll misses aura

Or at least the reroll 1s
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>>54238253

Bjorn is pretty great as a Captain dread, gives the same aura buff.

Dunno what Culln does yet but it's probably cool. I have no interest in him as a character, but a leviathan dread HQ is interesting.
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>>54238272
I suggest Eshin grey for higlights and then use Dawnstone for the brighter parts. Maybe even a touch of white if you feel like it
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>>54238272
After looking at those thing in person they look like having Down syndrome

Something about the flat face and every model looking down gives a strange feel to them.
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>>54238297
Shit. All the bits sites I know of from Murrica are all empty. Sorry bro.

http://hoardobits.com/cgi/hob/shop.pl?cat1=Bits&cat2=Warhammer%2040k&cat3=-Imperial%20Guard&cat4=%3EIG%20Sentinel

That's another.

Even the UK is out of them.

http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/index.php/astra-militarum-sentinel-c-23_141_147

Even the EU sites are out.

https://megabitzshop.com/Warhammer-40K-Bitz-Imperial-Guard-Imperial-Sentinel-Crew-Driver


Do you have ANY pilots? Because if you do you can make some home moulds with that putty stuff (blue stuff?).

Sorry bro.

>>54238331
He's due rules release in Fire of Cyraxus.
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Been reading Titanicus.

>He tallied thirty-one body kills in defence of his master, the famulous. It took one hundred and nine separate hits to overcome his glanded rage and reinforced constitution. He fell half way along the tunnel, almost disarticulated by damage.

Holy shit, Skitarii are hardcore.

I now feel like I want a Titan, but I don't know what type. Warhound or Reaver? And what do I equip her with?

Anyone here walked any Titans, scored any Engine Kills? I want to hear how they perform.
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>>54238286
An apothecary dreadnought would probably be more concerned with heavy lifting. Scanning and digging through ruined buildings and destroyed vehicles, using the fist to uncover lost or incapacitated marines.

They'd leave the finer work to attendant marines, medical servitors and/or servo skulls and mechadendrites.
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>>54238365
You posted this last thread. Nobody really cares. Have a (You).
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>>54238284
I mean Leviathan dreads specifically drive the occupant insane, not dreads in general. Like, they go on berserker rampages because their reactor is too powerful or something.
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>>54238272
At 35, in the hobby since I was 10, worked for GW for formative years, in a gaming group of ppl 30-50yo I'm on the verge of being a grognard myself. Trust me, the only thing we dislike is kids who show up with entitled attitudes and bare plastic armies where half is "counts as" anyway. Be humble and don't cheat or talk shit (until you're friends at least) and you're golden.

So far you already seem like a decent dude who takes advice and actually wants to be engaged in the hobby so good on you!
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>>54238359
No can do. I could try to make them armored but that will be.....choppy. Thanks anyway brosef. I need them for my 1k/50PL Brigade but I hate them looking shitty.
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>>54238282
I guess I stand corrected. I meant I see it used a lot in armored female concept art as an alternative for boob armor.
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>>54238365

I have a Warlord in my epic army...

Don't know what you could do with one in a 40k game =D
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>>54238285
>Tau in 8th
>waac-est
what

>>54238231
dreadtron ready to serve
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>>54238285
Do what I did when that happened to my eldar: quit 40k for 5 years >>54238285
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So happy H Bolter chimera are optimal now. The Cain novels made me love them but they were suboptimal in 7th. Does the FW double HBolter turret still exist?
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>>54238285
Sell it and play a cool sub-par gunline faction

Also most /urdoods/ in lore of them all
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>>54238387
Then Culln is gonna be batshit.

>>54238424
Sorry, anon. Gotta keep watching. Or you can convert I guess?
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>>54238097
>Can't read rules

Why bother?
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>>54238365

A better question
Did anyone here even buy a titan or titan equiv
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>>54238285
You're having the exact opposite problem that I am. I can't get my Stealth teams, my FW teams, my Pathfinders or my Hammerheads to pull a win out of their asses. Maybe that's just because I've mostly been playing against Dark Eldar.
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How do I win with ynnari against a tau player who likes to turtle
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>>54238462
Tau are still good in 8th.

Not sure how they end up being WAACy, but Tau gonna Tau
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I'm going to try and squeeze as much as I can out of my heavy weapon team sprues.

Would I be allowed to base missile launcher teams on 25mm bases if it's clear who is the gunner and loader?
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>>54238424
>1k/50PL Brigade
That's......that's not possible right? Guard are not THAT undercosted/overpowered....are they? With Creed that's 14 fucking CP
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>>54238512
Do Wyches get combat drugs and Power of Death or whatever rule? If they can, make fast as fuck bikes (+Movement) give attacks to Wyches, +1S to Leliath.
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>>54238536
Just buy extra 50mms at your local and get 6 teams by only putting one guy on each
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>>54238527
New guy in our game group plays nids. Do you have experience against them with your tau? Never actually played a game against nids before so...

Anything nids have that I should worry about?
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>>54238184
>>54238137
Revised list.
Had to drop the lieutenant in the end. Seemed like the most reasonable choice
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>>54238539
Guard can fill slots for cheap very easily.
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>>54238285
When my guard became WAAC tier in 5th edition, I switched to a stormtrooper army.

After several editions of getting progressively worse, now they're suddenly try hard.
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>>54238472
>autists who walk into lava
>cool

>>54238564
horde spam
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>>54238512
Dark lance spam has been very effective against my Tau so far. I lose at least two tanks on turn one, average. Consider scourges and ravagers.
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Is it me or is the gun thing in the 'center' of this tank a bit off center?
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>>54238571
But that's 3 of everything. I need to facts. I can barely fill a Battalion plus Patrol.
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>>54238611
pic is angled too though
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>>54238611
if you're talking about the one with three barrels, it clearly is
probably meant to be too
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>>54238611
The main one of the triple-barrelled affair at the front? The big gun looks like it's in the middle to me.
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>>54238469
I don't think so but you could try one of the china casters

the rules for it are in the imperial armour index: forces of the AM
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>>54238611

It is meant to
The gunner sits next to the driver.
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>>54238611
My question is, what is the OTHER build in the kit going to be.
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>>54238631
>>54238629
>>54238657
>>54238649

Yeah I guess.

What is that gun anyway? Some sort of flamer?

Also sponsons look like multimeltas? Not sure.
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>>54238622
Infantry platoons are 40pts, Heavy support teams are about the same. Stormtroopers are just good, and about the same.

Also, 30pt HQs. Guard break Command points.
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>>54238580
Still considerably cooler than an empire so small it has plot armour massing more than every planet in it.

Come join the Admech, we throw away billions of lives, vatgrow more and continue to give no fucks about literally anything, because superweapons. Considerably more fluff variation, too. What's the most dramatic thing in your lore? That's right, the red dudes disagreed with the brown dudes over government and left. When that happens with the Admech, we call it Tuesday.
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>>54238657
That's a point, there don't seem to be any vision slits anywhere on the vehicle. How do the crew see?
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>>54238365

The only titan even capable of being taken in a normal sized 2000 point game is a warhound and it'll be 75% of your army.
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>>54238664
They'll be foulnoun guns.
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>>54238665
>Detachments describe the logistics of your army and stuff
>stories of guard is usually full of how their logistics are shit
>best army filling out detachments and rake CP
Thinkening...
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>>54238694

Isn't the Eldar junior titan like 1100 points?
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>>54238708
>IG
>bad logistic
Think you are confusing the guys at the pen and paper division with the actual IG.
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>>54238708
Guard have more command points but nearly always go last as their theme is often defenders.

Its like poetry.
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>>54238231
DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO XENOS!
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>>54238740

Also i never manage to use all my CP as guard.
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>>54238740
But I always get 2 chances to steal initiative. 1/3 ain't bad. And oh baby when I DO steal and my Earthshakers get to snipe first....
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>>54238722

1,200 but none of its guns have macro and its capping out at a 5+ invul save without advancing.

On the other hand it can absolutely shit all over infantry and normal tanks but will get its ass handed to it by anything with a macro weapon.
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>>54238580
>autists who walk into lava
>cool
Exactly, glad you understand
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>>54238761
Yeah, they're less useful on a 4+ save than a 2+ save or on a 4+ to hit vs a 3+
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>>54238761
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You should be using one every phase. I run that 14CP 1k build and with card cycling in Malstrom Im usually out by Turn 5
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>>54238611
That's how guns work. Look at any WW2 tank, the secondary weapons are always off centre.
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Yes or no

116 points
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>>54238231
i kinda miss ward memes
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>>54238830
Is this a new meme?
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>>54238823
Huh, this whole time I thought it was in middle.

Looking at a leman russ it is kinda to the side.

Fuck.
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>>54238799
I never not use one to get that juicy 6 on my Basilisk shots.
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>>54238611
Anyone else really hate this design? I'm a Death Guard player and got excited when I heard when were getting a Vindicator variant, but this is just so stumpy.
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>>54238823
KV-6! HAHA!
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>>54238660
>give it two build options as an excuse to up the price 20%
Ogryns, Ork planes, raptors, venomthropes...

When will this meme end?
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>>54238269
Are they a reliable bits distributor? I've never heard of them before
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>>54238859
Its not the best, but its grown on me.
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>>54238539
BRIGADE DETACHMENT

HQ - COMPANY COMMANDER x3 (30x3) 90 PTS
TROOPS - INFANTRY SQUAD x6 (40x6) 240 PTS
ELITES - COMMAND SQUAD x3 (24x3) 72 PTS
FAST ATTACK - SCOUT SENTINELS with multilaser x3 (45x3) 135 PTS
HEAVY SUPPORT - HEAVY WEAPONS SQUAD with mortars x3 (17x3) 51 PTS

TOTAL 588 POINTS

there you go anon
this is of course assuming all base gear but you can start from here
you can go for even cheaper if you pick conscripts and maybe some other choice in the fast attack slot or get some more officers for the elites
IG can be really cheap points wise
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>>54238883
and its annoying because it means you end up with leftover bits but none of the ones to actually build them into characters
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>>54238791

eh, what counts is it is a cheaper titan than the hound, that pertain to the topic, can take in in 1250 games
whether it can go toe to toe with other titans is irrelevant
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>>54238882
Pretty sure no proof that exists. The SMK was a prototype and the T-35 did exist. See, this is offset.
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>>54238884
Sorry, I don't know lad. I just have them saved for people who want to try.
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>>54238882
isn't there a quite specific ratio of length to width you need for tracks to work properly, pretty sure that land ship wouldn't be able to turn
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Out of the loop for a few months

Is 8th good?
Which army had it the best/worst?
Did GW ever acknowledge female Space Marines?
Best looking new unit(s)?
Whens plastic sisters?
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>>54238611
I hope there are other options for that DG icon. I want to play this in mydudes but don't want to run them as DG.
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>>54238915

people play 1250 in your store?
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>>54238974
You want to run it as Iron Warriors don't you?
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>>54239000

I picked that number since sometimes people make 1250 lists and it is the lowest you can go and still use the titan
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>>54238215
Here you go anon
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>>54238462
Yeah I don't get it. I guess STR5 en masse is just really good now and FW are cheap.

>>54238511
I only use the Hammerheads in the big games with Long Strike. Usually I try to get the opponent to charge them or get them in range to drop Homing Beacon and let my 3 Crisis 9 Flamer squad come on. Also I turn one Montka and just shoot the shit outta everything with a Seeker. It really makes the pathfinder's markerlights work.

>>54238472
I love Admech but went SoB instead when I got a full army worth 1500 for only 170. But I agree I should just sell them.

>>54238463
I could just shelve them for a bit? Paint and play my Sisters.
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Returning player here.
I got 10 CSM and around 20 cultists from a friend.

What are your advices for further purchases for some fluffy Alpha Legion army ?
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>>54238830
It's fine.
Cheap and robust for a daemon character, and does reasonable damage.

If you like the model take it.
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>>54239018
Cheers lad. Thanks.
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>>54239018
>41,111
>not using Primaris Marines
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>>54238957
Is 8th good?
Yes.
Which army had it the best/worst?
Armies that can spam shitloads of cheap infantry--IG, Nids, Orks--have become rape trains. Tau, Chaos, and SM aren't doing so well.
Did GW ever acknowledge female Space Marines?
No but we all know that whenever Sisters is revamped they'll probably push them much closer to female Astartes than nuns with guns.
Best looking new unit(s)?
The basic Primaris are growing on me and Death Guard models are solid.
Probably not this year but you're a looney if you don't think they'll basically be redesigned into girl astartes.
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>>54238957

>Is 8th good?
Seems pretty good IMO. Lots of returning players and such, more than usual.

>Which army had it the best/worst?
Craftworld Eldar got nerfed most I think. Tau too, but they're still great. Daemons got 'fixed' but are thus bad. Horde Armies got buffed mainly through mechanics changes rather than their individual stats or points costs being changed, so Tyranids, Orks and Guard are much better.

>Did GW ever acknowledge female Space Marines?
Not AFAIK.

>Best looking new unit(s)?
New Death Guard are tits.

>Whens plastic sisters?
Didn't you hear? Sisters got squatted.
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>>54238957

Yes.
Sisters got insane buff. Renegades got shit on.
No.
New Plague Marines are very well sculpted. Incepters look goofy. Best new sculpt is probs a Triumverate box set model.
Plastic Sisters never.
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>>54239039
You can go the chaotic way and take a Start Collecting CSM

or

go the clean way (pic related) and go with a Betrayal at Calth with some kitbashing.
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>>54238884
Hobby titan is a reputable business, ive ordered from them 10+ times, always get what i ordered, they dont alway have stock on the website but they also sell on ebay, i forget the seller name they use.
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>>54238469
The last time i search in their online store i only saw the autocannon turret.
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>>54239087
>Tfw fucking GW will never give us CSM kits that look actually sensical like pic related.

Those guys are Chaos Marines yet look like they aren't retarded faggots with glowing eyes and tumors on the flesh.
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>>54238664
it's basically the perturabo storm tank, which was a thing fans made up based on an old jes goodwin sketch

I'd expect it to be a rotary autocannon or lascannon.
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>>54239071
I saw a bunch of returning players but you usually do when new editions drop. Lot of people leaving or irritated with how simple the rules are though.

T1 charges (especially with vehicles like land raiders) seem kind of broken too due to many maps having 18" between deployment zones. Like yesterday I saw a game where the person who went first tied up everything but their opponent's warlord in cc on turn 1. game was basically over at that point but they went through the motions anyway.
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>>54239074
I'm still not seeing the buff for SoB.

In theory you can spam Storm Bolter for cheap, but in reality who the fuck had SB with SB?
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>>54238957
Its great, maybe best edition yet (aside from misprints and rule fuckups, but how else would you know it's GW)

Best is nids, soooo much better, worst is Admech or Khorne (haven't played either only heard from friends/artists here, so grain of salt)

No, never will. But of course that means nothing here

Personally I don't care for primaris, so probably plague marines? Poxwalkers and bell guy are cool too

Of course, they're coming next month I swear! ;^)
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Does Deathwatch get Primaris Marines?
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>>54239087
>>54239039
Meh. The more I look at those armors, the more I think you should do a Start Collecting CSM but avoid those silly helms with horns and go with some mk4 helmets. You should have little problem finding them
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>>54239138
Oh, I should clarify I mean khorne mono-daemons. Bezerkers are the shit

Was Tzeentch until people noticed the price of brimstones.
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>>54239088
Thanks anon ive been looking for good bits retailers
>>54238940
Thats fine. Thanks for letting know about them in the first place then.
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>>54239139
Apparently yes.
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>>54239152
All Daemons are poor unless you're telling me Slaanesh and Nurgle are good.

People shat on tzeentch most at launch of 8th but IMO its come out the strongest.
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>>54239139
index says no, but I feel like they'll get some at some point
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>>54239139
Yes.
>>
ORK RUMORS

GIVE THEM TO ME
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>>54238562
60mm for HWTs
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>>54239120
I've wanted to do that using Terminus Ultra rules. Use the hull gun as the 3 twin-lascannons and put individual lascannons on the sponsons.
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>>54239187

All I heard about is maybe a buggy from Hastings
Atia's posts are hard to trawl through. Only rumour from there that I can recall is new T'au stuff
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>>54238212
Maybe a smaller brush and thinner paint would help? The white looks a bit blotchy as if it's too thick; same for the silver on the head wings. Nice job though other than that Anon; I like the black just looks a bit too thick. Did you thin the paint?
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>>54239187
Orks will get a new sub-faction next year, something like Bonesplitterz but 40k.

Source: me
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>>54239129
Complexity will be added via codexes, and yearly additions and changes to rules.

Also armies?
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>>54239180
Nurgle is tanky asf and the powers are good, and slaneesh always goes first and hits like a truck. I agree the three are bad but khorne got hit worst of all- bloodletters are effectively unplayable and nothing in their forms a consistent army basis.


But I'm more curious, is Admech all that bad? Lots of people are moaning and I wanted some as allies, but if they suck that hard...
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>>54239211
New Tau stuff, huh? Any deets, anon?
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Are there any rules for Sonic Dreadnoughts in 8th edition?
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>>54239244
Not that anon.
Auxiliaries, new ones if I recall correctly.
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>>54239212
I did thin my paints but I think I might have done a bit too many layers for the cloth.
I've just started collecting again after a 3-4 years pause so I definitely need to practice some more.

Another thing is that I had to strip the paint off of this model to repaint it but not all of it came off, so I think that might've affected the final result
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>>54239211
>New T'au
Deets pls. And there better be a plastic Farsight, Nicassar, or more Xenos aux's in there.
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>>54239254
Yup, check the FW FAQ. They get twin blastmasters and a doom siren iirc
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>>54239254
Helbrute, but they can have Doom Sirens and 2 Blastmasters.
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So we're missing actual releases of

>Mortarion
>Grand Cultavator
>Plagueburst tank
>Death Guard Terminators
>Possible Heavy Weapon Unit

and

>Aggressors
>Primaris Apothecary
>Overlord (large flyer can take 40 units apparently)
>Repulsor Tank
>Dreadnought

When?
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>>54239241
Nurgle Daemons aren't that great.

5++ and 5+++ isn't amazing for all their units.

They don't have tons and tons of wounds either. They do probably have best powers I agree.

Also regarding Slaanesh
>t3
>s3
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>>54239254
Yes, and it's good.
Check FW FAQ
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>>54239254
See
>>54238330
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>>54239244
>>54239272

"Not directly part of the empire"
Whether that means auxiliaries, new stuff like chaos T'au or whatever, remains to be seen. Will likely release with the codex whenever that is? T'au will be one of the factions to get new shit with their codex.
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Me and a friend have been thinking of a set of house rules for Leman Russes. Here's what we have so far.

>16 HP
>Grinding Advance applies to all weapons
>6" movement
>No squadroning

Thoughts?
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>>54239134
Buff was from how the game works. Also I happened to have tons of SoB models with Storm Bolters.

Also the Repressor is heavily undercosted as it hauls 10, has great guns mounted and six firing points. Dominions and Retributors riding around in a Repressor is scary.

Another buff is the ability to ally in basically whatever you want and it'll work great.

Really cheap chaff for them too with the Acolytes 3++ and the Arcoflagellents. Put a priest with either of them and double their attacks.
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Why can't GW like what I like? Thousand Sons release looked weak to begin with but now it's looking about half the size of the DG release and will no doubt be half as effective.
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>>54239334
Tell me about it.

I really don't like fielding Magnus which leaves me with what? 3-4 realistic units to play with?
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Is there a online store aside amazon/ebay were i can buy spare turrets? need some Predators turrets for some old style Chimera conversions.
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>>54239288
True Slannesh can't pop vehicles like 7th, but they mince infantry like no tomorrow. The regular dudettes minced my termies.

Though the big issue was my opponent was clever and dropped a whole swarm in by ritual, so they were way too close too fast
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>>54239286

>Overlord (large flyer can take 40 units apparently)


>the plastic thunderhawk wasn't just a meme
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>>54239213

Gretchin Revolutionary Committee
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>>54239383
The plastic Thunderhawk came out a few weeks ago, lad. Fluff wise the Overlord is basically a Corvus Blackstar but much more advanced, plus larger. It makes Thunderhawks 'look like toys'.
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>>54239334
It's your fault for picking the wrong legion.
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>>54239423
Not plastic fampire
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>>54239288
Main Slaaneshi Daemon player here.

S3 can be easily be solved by Heralds (almost every unit should have one) and the shear number of rending attacks.

T3 is terrible though and there is no way to solve it.

Still, Seekers have a 26,5" charge on average, and Fiends look everything in combat. There are ways to get close and avoid shooting.

Make big units and summon to have less units on the field, so you can choose to start first, and go on from there.
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In the mood to print some 40K posters

What are some in this kind of shape that have top tier art?
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>>54239423

>The plastic Thunderhawk came out a few weeks ago, lad.

Yeah and I almost bought one until I heard primaris were going to get an actually plastic one.

>Fluff wise the Overlord is basically a Corvus Blackstar but much more advanced, plus larger. It makes Thunderhawks 'look like toys'.

It would have to considering it sounds like its closer to being a Stormbird.
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>>54239312
Tank as fast as dudes on foot. Bs
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>>54239445
Plastic, Resin, whatever!

>>54239472
Yeah. It's apparently more like the Stormbirds than a Thunderhawk.
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>>54239312
Yeah stop making up your own rules and play the game
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>>54239312
Whatever you to do for funsies with each other is your issue, not ours.
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>>54239488

Considering that I think the stormbird looks awesome but is essentially unuseable in anything approaching a normal game, I hope the Overlord is closer in cost to the Thunderhawk and focuses on just being a transport.

It would actually be pretty fucking cool to be able to fit nearly my entire primaris army in it.
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>>54239087
>READ IT BECAUSE
>It's hot Chaos on Chaos action, with the Blood God's chosen warrior slap bang in the middle. Let's be honest – that's not ending well for anyone whose name isn't Khârn…

So I'll be sure to avoid this then because of yet more Khorn and Kharn masturbatory sessions. Way to make me disinterested GW. Thought Alpha Legion might actually get a book for once.
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So am I not doing the math right or is the Fire Raptor's Quad Heavy Bolters vastly superior than Twin Autocannons for only 3 more points?
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>>54239454
hmmm, that gives me conversion ideas
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How suicidal is to play CC eldar units on foot?
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>>54239286

Codices will have model releases for some factions.
I expect the final round and big stuff to be with codex.
Like Morty and termy, and repulsive tank
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>>54239312
I have no idea why you think russes need to be changed in such dumb, arbitrary ways.
>>
Predictions for new Guard units?
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>>54239528
But the protags are the Alpha Legion.

>>54239525
Yeah. It has those 3 barrelled lascannons and heavy bolters. But what it DIDN'T say is if it can carry 40 Primaris Marines or 40 regular Marines or mix and match. The fluff, I think, is it's Primaris Marines.
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>>54239312
+1 to to-hit rolls with the turret weapon when stationary would be dramatically better and more rational than any of that crap.
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>>54239622
New units? I doubt it.

New regiments with unique stuff is far more likely.

It's more lucrative to make new armies than expand the old ones.
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>>54239622

Dunno if Guard are getting anything anytime soon
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>>54239662
Yes so any new units for those regiments? How about Catachan Devils as elites?
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>>54239622
>one of the most supported armies in the setting
>WE WANT MORE!

Laaaaaad.
>>
Is there battlescribe for pc?
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>>54239625

RAW right now the stormbird can still carry 50 primaris even after the FAQ, so it might not be crazy.

Even 20 will be 4 units, or 3 units and all of my heroes.
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>>54238330
Saw that. I'm so excited I can field my boy again! Catch these 2 Blastmasters!
>>
Whats more useful for Deathguard, Pred with 4 lascannons, or Havocs with 4 lascannons and some extra bodies?
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>>54239746

Autocannon + 2 lascannon preds are god tier
>>
Hey there,

I recently bought a maulerfiend and I am wondering which load out is better, lasher tendrils or magma cutters?

Thanks
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>>54239736
I'm glad they make it 2 blastmasters.
Those Twin Sonic Blasters arms are far to huge to be simple Sonic Blasters.

The Blastmaster arm instead can simply be imagine as a single Blastmaster that shoot twice because Warp Amp. Make sense.
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Man, all of the Battlescribe stuff for 8th is shit at the moment. Can't build a list based on power level easily and half of the customization menus are busted/poorly placed.
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>>54239746
Neither.

Havocs aren't Death Guard.

Predator's aren't their style.

Go for tons of Hellbrutes.
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>>54239789
RIP Army List Builder
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>>54239803
Does anyone use Army Builder?
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>>54239622
I would like either a new leman russ kit with with parts to make the variants that are currently FW only, specifically the annihilator and conqueror. They're both really vanilla and if you wanted to give the kit 3 options like the other kits you could toss in the styges vanquisher (who fucking cares) or make up some new weapon for it, maybe a big flamer or something.

Or, I would like some kind of crew served artillery unit.
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Is there ANY reason to take Interrogator-Chaplains when Belial exists?
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>>54239746
>Havocs
>DeathGuard
Sorry bro, but you can't have them anymore
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>>54238110
Yes.
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>>54239839
You can take Havocs, they just can't be Death Guard and won't benefit from Death Guard bonuses.
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>>54239845
>Clean dark eldar actually look pretty gud
wow
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>>54239761
Any reason why?
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>>54239831
I don't even care about getting new units. What I want are fucking UPDATED models. Give me something other than shitty Catachans and archaic/boring as fuck Cadians.

>>54239622
Probably some new Scions.
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>>54239863
>You can have Havocs in the DeathGuard
>They just don't have to be DeathGuard
>>
So battle scribe is saying my genestealers for gene cult are 10 points points piece with free claws and talons. Doesn't seem right. If it's wrong what's their actual price?
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>>54239845
Codicis when?
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>>54239831
A new russ kit would be an incredibly safe and low effort thing for GW to produce. The russ and demolisher already share a sprue and the turret sprue is 70% identical. They could change the 25% of either the russ or demolisher turret sprue to have the different weapons options and have a brand new kit to sell to guard players.
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>>54238164
the game has come out more balanced than normal for a GW game.


some typos are inevitable, it happens with pretty much every game.
>>
>>54239939

No that's correct, enjoy.
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>>54239008
;^)

>real talk, mydudes are just black legion mooks
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What the fuck?
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>>54239421
thats ENUFF, off to da big gunz wiv ya
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>>54239939
4 power ;^)
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>>54239769
Yeah having just sonic blasters would be a waste in the new stats.

6 shots of str 4 ap 0
Or
2d3 shots of str 8 ap -2 Damage d3
/ 2d6 shots of str 4 ap -1

No question. Shame the doom siren is garbage this edition, but I hardly ever remembered to use it anyways.
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>>54238429
its used a lot in art in general.
you probably just notice it more on female characters because you're looking for boobplate.
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>>54238245
>FW chapters get Leviathan designs
>No Ultramarine Leviathans
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>>54239983
Welcome to the new power fist rules
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>>54239983

What is the issue?
It looks fist-like
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>>54239983
The best is all those retards who put power fists on guard sarges are rolling to hit at 5+

:^)
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>>54240012
this is what heaven feels like
>>
>>54239963
>he has never played lotr
>>
Bring them back!
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>>54239983
What's your problem? It's unweildy
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>>54238560
>+S to Lelith
That's a waste. Upgrade the wyches to Bloodbrides and give them +S, give the Reavers (bikes) toughness, take hellions and give them +1A
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>>54239845
Nobody is doing any new pictures of CUTEDAR, sadly. Dunno what to do as I can't draw.

>>54240012
What? Pretty sure Ultramarines can use generic Leviathans like every other chapter. Minotaurs don't have any Leviathans either.

>>54240042
LotR was so good. Bit confusing sadly.
>>
>>54239983
Irrelevant after turn 3 starts, my dude.
>>
What's the best loadout for a Plague Marine Sergeant?
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>>54240046
>based Necromunda
>>
>>54240046
>FIRE THE JIZZ CANNON!
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>>54240046
Fuck off Fantacuck.
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>>54240016
>>54240019
>>54240028
PFists end up at s8 AP -3, this is just s5

>>54240050
Why is it unwieldy? It wasn't last edition. It doesn't make a wink of sense.
>>54240058
Sure, but also stupid. Not that it would be worthwhile to select it on a single model, but would Combat drugs that grant +1 to Attacks negate the penalty?
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>>54240046
that would be very cool
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>>54239983

Ha ha, the fuck? Where's her good weapon?
>>
>>54240085
It was 2h'd wasn't it? Those seem to end up with the -1 hit penalty as well.
>>
What are your expectations/hopes/longshots for Chapter Tactics?
>>
anyone have a primaris and a unused jump pack, im curious if the jump pack looks to small to try to put on the primaris marines
>>
>>54240085
I never said it was a good power fist.

Howling Banshees have the same thing. They pay whopping 16 points for the privilege too
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>>54240103
It was, but Incubi didn't get slapped with that shit.
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>>54240046

>supersoaker titan
>leopard 1980s "cool" troops
>are those muskets?

lel that looks awful
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>>54240057
>confusing
What?
It certainly didn't lend itself to games over 500 points.
>>
>>54240046

not gonna lie the Officer in the black coat looks dope
>>
>tfw I realized Reavers have S4 -1 weapon that is irrelevant to their S3 base

I noticed it after I realized they were bladevanes, which is the same shit Raiders are equipped with. That's pretty fucking solid.
>>
>>54240161
I mean like Fight Values and stuff and how that worked. And Strength. Plus difference between the skirmish game and big game.
>>
>>54238611
How do the driver or gunner see?
>>
>>54239113
Then just build chaos marines using the mkIII and mkIV marine kits.
>>
>>54240057
>Ultramarines can use generic Leviathans
That's what I'm saying. Scorpions get their own levi complete with molded chapter icons.

Ultra's don't.
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>>54240174
I'm liking that golden cuirass, too.

I also like that they've clearly been standing there staring down dudes with sabres while all the grunts are going in in waves.

I always liked all the character you can see in 40k art.
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>>54239305
Auxiliaries are directly part of the Empire, you giant dummy.
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>>54240028
>be me
>Slaaneshi Daemons
>Adversary bring a huge unit of shooty terminators
>They deepstrike and kill my Herald on Chariot
>My turn
>I cast Symphony of Pain on them
>Charge them with Daemonettes and Masque
>Do some average damage
>His turn to attack
>The most delicious disappointment when he realize he hits me on 6+
>mfw
>>
>>54239831
Leman Russ with an inferno cannon. Fund it.
>>
>>54240212
Ah right yeah.
>>
>>54240212
Why should the Ultras get one? They don't have any in 40k.
>>
Tempted to run my cadian looking guard army as krieg so I can mount my officers and commissars on horseback. Would I come into any problems with that?

Thanks guys!
>>
>>54240246

The Primarch leman Russ with an inferno cannon.
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>>54240186
Fight value was easy.
Roll to see who wins fight, highest rolls to wound. In the case of a tie the side with a model in the combat with the highest fight wins. If both have same fight then the player with priority rolls a die, on a 4+ they win, on a 1-3 the other guy wins.
Strength just looks up on wound chart.
Lotr and wotr are separate games, but biggest difference is that you only roll to wound in wotr, higher fight/shoot gives you bonus attacks/shots.
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Russ turret on Predator Chassis when?

We've already got what is basically a Predator turret on Russes with the Russ Annihilator. I want battlecannon predators!
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>>54240263
Automatically shit.
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>>54240205

This
>>
why doesnt roboute gulliman get his own primarch leviathan dreadnought?

GW dont even care anymore
>>
>>54240261
just fluff it as a cadian seige regiment and you are fine.
>>
>>54240228

If that is true I have no bloody clue what T'au is getting
obviously primaris allies
Gotta sell the new hotness to everyone, including the nonhumans
>>
Best carrying case for about 25 gk termies?
>>
>>54240285
what about a Redemption Primarch-Pattern Leviathan Contemptor Roboute Guillimann Dreadknight (tm)
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>>54240303
Put them in a Teleportarium.
>>
>>54240264
I enjoyed it when I read it 10 or so years ago. Some of the models were neat. Swan Knights especially.
>>
>>54240285
because he isn't dead?
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>>54240265
>put lascannons on a Russ turret
>become predator turret

wut?
>>
>>54240285
Because it would actually be interesting and grimdark for a Primarch to come back confined to a machine that's slowly driving him insane. Nu40k doesn't allow that. We /starwars/ now.
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>>54240279
The problem is you can't make a decent Chaos marine list without using their ugly as fuck specialist models, too.
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>>54240341
Are you this shit at conversions?
>>
>>54240339
>what does basically mean
>>
>>54240285
Isn't he basically a dreadnaught right now?

I haven't read the new fluff, but I thought he was not-so-partially reconstructed.
>>
>>54240341
>what's converting?
>>
>>54240352
>put lascannons on a Russ turret
>become basically predator turret

Doesn't seem any better.
>>
>>54240354
>Isn't he basically a dreadnaught right now?
not in any sense, no
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>>54240340
would be swag desu

Dreadnought HQs from now on
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>>54240354
>Isn't he basically a dreadnaught right now?
No he got better and can go on walks without his life support armour now.
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So space marines have heightened senses right? And they're further heightened by the "auto-senses" of their power armor yeah?

Does that mean that whenever Astartes operate around Guard or Sisters and one of them farts, the Astartes can smell it?

So every time Astartes have to operate alongside other Imperial forces they're just being subjected to the smell of farts and sweaty body odor?
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>>54238181
Christ that's boring. Was their armour designed to put their enemies to sleep?
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>>54240373
>has the same weapon
>basically the same
Today you learned what basically means.
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>>54240385
Pretty sure the armour filters out extraneous sensations
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>>54240355
>>54240350
>conversions
>new GW

Had you seen the new stuff? Even for AoS the new stuff is a bitch to convert.
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>>54240403
Most CSM kits are a decade old.
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>>54240341
Define specialist models?

Raptors?
I like the current raptors, but chinaman has MKIV jump packs for sale.

Possessed?
Use regular CSM models instead of calth/bop

Spawn?
AoS has plenty of options. I personally use the big Ghouls/Bats

What else is there?
>>
>>54240403
Improve your craft.
They're not the easiest, but they're easy enough.
>>
>>54240399
Shh, let him have his fart porn fantasy
>>
>>54240399
Is that why sergeants don't wear helmets?
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>>54240403
CSM kits are piss easy to convert m8.
>>
All right fuck, how is Admech?

Some people say shit, others say godly, what's what? Barring stupid HQ shit, is spamming radtroopers with HS backup viable?
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>>54240385
>Sisters...farts...can smell it?

admit it, that was what you wanted to write about but decided to be antsy
>>
>>54240403
>being this uninspired

no offence but you are in the wrong hobby
>>
>>54240398
>have a penis
>am basically Brad Pitt

ok
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I got a can of ArmyPainter Red Dragon spray primer and it's doing this.

I'm guessing the can is no good, but how do I salvage the model?
>>
>>54240465
Well it's definitely living up to the dragon name.
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>>54240465
Strip the paint
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>>54239187
Ghazghkull will become a Prime Ork.
>>
>>54240465

rock marine
gravel marines
great weathering effects potential though
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>>54240457
>have a penis
>am basically male

There ya go buddy :)

Having a penis isn't a defining factor how Brad Pitt's identity. Having twin-lascannons/Autocannon is a defining factor of a Predator turret. Thus a russ turret with autocannons or lascannons is BASICALLY the same. They share major defining factors.
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>>54240465
Paint stripper. Change can. Try again. Contact support.
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>>54240265
At this point it would be pointless since the predator autocannon is pretty much just better than a battlecannon.
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>>54240438
>>54240432
>>54240450
Mostly talking about new shit.
Old plastic is awesome to work with.
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>>54240465
This is why you spray the gay away, then prime.
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>this bitch is still going on about Femmarines are getting BTFO over her shitty memexel ''''game''''
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>>54240509
Doesn't the battlecannon do potentially more shots, and have an extra point of str though?
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>>@54240523
Stop self-promoting your shitty game.
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If a transport tries to charge but dies to overwatch, can the dudes inside charge after they disembark?
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>>54240523
>has a bitch fit about having female space marangs
>makes shitty rainbow female marang
>still looks like a man

I hope that dyke can appreciate the irony in this.
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>>54240465
Standard result for army painter sprays tbqh
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>>54240465
kek
Army painter is baller and your bait is good
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>>54240536
No because you declare all charges first before resolving overwatch.

If you're at the point where you're moving models for the charge, you are past the point of announcing additional charges.
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>>54240536
Wouldnt you disembark before charging anyway?
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>>54240523
Are there male sisters of battle in her game?
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>>54240523
So? Who the fuck cares unless GW either:
1) Introduces female marines
or
2) Finally just give us plastic Sisters so we won't care anymore

I just find it odd that you're bringing twitter drama here that doesn't directly effect us in anyway.
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>>54240585
Yes.
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>>54240525
The battlecannon does D6 S8 AP-2 D3 damage shots.

The predator autocannon does 2D3 S7 AP-1 3 damage shots.
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I hope we get plastic kits for a brand new Guard regiment.

Or at least I hope it won't be Death Korps.
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>>54240600
1. Why do you care?
2. There is proof that outside of /tg/ 'Fem Marines' are a thing that people trying to make a thing

Happy?
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>>54240505
This post is extremely problematic
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>>54240545
No anon she's trying to say women don't all have to dress frilly and pink to be female. The dev believes we shouldn't judge and desire characters based off of their sex, so it shouldn't be an issue if a certain chapter or group is all female even for the most banal reason, like sisters of battle.

but for whatever reason we still need female marines.
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>>54240568
You don't declare all your charges at once. You pick an eligible unit, declare its charge targets, resolve overwatch, make charge moves, then choose another eligible unit and repeat. Once the unit inside the transport disembarks it's an eligible unit as long as it's within 12" of an enemy.

>>54240574
Normally, yeah. In this instance a loaded transport declares a charge then dies to overwatch.
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Why the fuck would anyone ever take a heavy venom cannon over a stranglethorn canon for nids? Or ever take a acid spray on a tfex?
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>>54240601
They had better be traps.
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>>54240601
>I was diagnosed with diabetes
pottery
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how interchangable are primaris bits with normal marine kits?

I know the primaris kit is monopose currently, but size wise is it easy to replace arms and heads without looking out of scale?
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>>54240601
>I've spoken with GW and they don't care.
Meaning she fired off a vague "Can I make a game of 40k?" facebook wall post, never got a response, and read that as a go-ahead.
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>>54240601
>2015
>>54240523
>Feb, maybe not even of this year
Fuck sake, it's not even CURRENT twitter drama. You hung on to this shit for TWO YEARS. I got the distinct impression you JUST got banned from 8 for something retarded, and now you're here trying to fit in. Stop it. If you're here, talk about 40K, not your faggot twitter shit that hurt you feelings two years ago.
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>>54240465
Holy shit this >>54240494
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>>54240601
>>54240651
GW doesn't care about fan-projects with the caveat that you don't get ANY money whatsoever. No patreon, no donation link, etc.
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>>54238230
Blood swords also had a Dread Chapter Master
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>>54240656
Calm down mate, why are you so mad? I am talking about 40k. It seems you're new here, let me fill you in. The last few months people have talked about 'Fem Marines'. That is, Female Space Marines. I was linking back that, even outside of 40k, this is a desired thing. So it's not just a cadre of shitposters like yourself getting buttmad.
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>>54240609
I hope it will be Death Korps
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>>54240620
>people are using femmarines as a feminist thing instead of for musclegils.
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>>54240620
>Why do you care?
Because you're shitting up the thread with stupid shit. If you have a problem with the anon who comes in and has a fetish for fem-marines, take it up with him when he's actually here.

>>54240651
And since this was from 2015, that seems normal. GW didn't talk to ANYONE until pretty recently. And as is, we only find out about product a few weeks before it ships.
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So I got fourth place at my local tourney with my orkz out of 22 players

That's not bad, but I do think my boyz can bring the pain and win that fucker all the way, anybody have tips for Ork tourney stuff?

Pic related was the list I brought

I'm thinking bikes and stormboys? Maybe supplemented by Lootas or some kind of ranged AT?
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>>54240649
Not a fucking chance if you ask me. Scale and proportions are completely different.
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>>54240656
>this post
>WAAAH TALK ABOUT 40K
>BUT LET ME MAKE A META POST AND START SHIT WHEN I COULD JUST IGNORE THE POST
>B-b-bet you're f-f-from a-another website! H-hah!

Pathetic. Don't reply, I've filtered you.
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>>54240661
>>54240465
>>54240494

>Traitor marines from thousands of years ago have lain dead deep in the mud of Kreig/Some other planet.

>Have recently been revitalized by chaos magic
>They are now essentially Chaos golems, made of mud and reinforced with warp sorcery.
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>>54240700
Jesus I know this gets tossed around a lot but thin your damn paints
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>>54240601

why can't you leave this person alone to enjoy her own game the way she wants it?
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>>54240684
>It seems you're new here
Sure, sure. Tell me when your ban is over at 8. Some faggot twitter user who held a grudge for 2 years is a real "oldfag".
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>>54240695
>take it up with a person who is anonymous, like everybody else
Yeah, see how this doesn't work?
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>>54240649
Heads and shoulder pads are the same size between Primaris and regular
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>>54240505
Confirmed Predator executioner, Predator Infernus and either configuration of Baal Predator are not predators.

Not only are you fucking wrong, since in general vehicle construction terms the turret is a structural component of a vehicle in/on to which a gun can be mounted and the gun itself is a separate thing, but you are also fucking wrong because there are a bunch of different predator variants with different guns.

You're wrong according to your own definition.
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>>54240700
THICC
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>>54240700
What the fuck is going on in this picture?

That GK looks like he was sloppily photoshopped in but that shadow goes across his and the primaris base???

Also why is he so fuzzy?
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>>54240720
I did? GW didn't though since she was making money from it. Mate you seem to think I can do anything. I'm sure she's making free video games to this day.
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>>54240731
awesome

thanks

I guess you could change hands and therefore weapons but that'd be about it. No point swapping tosos/legs obviously
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>people getting this mad over pictures
I'm saving them and will post them next thread. Thanks lads. Best bit is? You'll think it's one person since you're fucking newfags and don't know how 4chan works.
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>>54240723
Like you can't identify the guy when he shows up. You seriously going to post ancient twitter shit every thread hoping he's gets upset for you? He's probably at work or jacking off to another site right now. Maybe both.

I don't care, be a faggot. Just don't make a habit out of it.
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>>54240601
If you were going to take the time to talk shit to a faggot tumblrite you could have at least tried tried not to come across as a total insufferable moron.
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>>54240739
The camera is focused on the GK backpack and the power sword.
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>>54240716
The grey knight is ooooooooold
The Emperor's Children Resurgent (eat dicks that's what I'm calling them) is the first thing I've painted in years and I'm using paints I'm not familiar with. Cool your jets my dude

>>54240739
A weird auto adjust lighting thing on my phone explains the weirdness, but he's a shitty old GK that I painted years ago. Layers o'dust
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>>54240720
We lost the shitty image list builder.
I can't wait for this bitch to make a single mistake.
Beside pixel art style is cancer.
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>>54240771
epic, simply epic win
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>>54240771
People aren't that upset. Sometimes you buy a bad can of spray paint. It happens.

Better luck with the next can.
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>>54240775
>every thread
Go to the archive, right now and show me the last 5 threads where I posted that. I can assure you that you won't. Fuck off shitposter.

>>54240777
None of the people in that Twatter were me, mate. I think you should understand that. I saved it from somebody else.
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>>54240601
When fans make this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZc6cr6G2E4&t=498s

It is rather infuriating seeing this crap.
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>>54240505
So how does 2 lascannons define a Predator's turret over, say, a razorbacks turret? Or Land Raider's turret?
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>>54240771
Careful guys, the mods of /vg/ at least are SJW's with useless woman/black studies degrees so take care not to offend them.

/tg/'s mods could be the same!
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>>54240777
And to think, he sat on this for TWO YEARS before bringing it here. He probably whined about this on twitter all that time.
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>>54240787
huge chunk of fucked up sprue on the chadmarines right shoulder pad
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>>54238285
just be a WAAC player and win games.

honestly don't know why you're being a little bitch about it.
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>>54240677
This isn't strictly true. GW has on several occasions issued actual C&D notices to fan projects of various kinds, usually fan games and mods. Though it seems like they generally do that only when the fan project is fairly well known and they think it competes in some way with some kind of licensed project.
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>>54240820
Lovely work he did but let down by the poor VA and some minor animation problems in the final act. Shame he's unlikely to ever get it finished. It's what, 3 years over due?
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>>54240825
Only a three day ban? I thought they would be harsher on someone who had no idea what was and wasn't videogames.
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>>54240853
Literally only noticed it when I took the picture.
Fucking, JUST FUCK
At least the lieutenant isn't a centre piece unit. I'll fix it some day, but I don't go in hardcore for mouldlines and sprue remains, so eh
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>>54240863
The thread had already derailed into liberals vs republican shitposting focused around college majors and which "party" supported which majors.

I was simply trying to defuse it without contributing to the /pol/posting that was already taking place. mea culpa
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>>54240835
>>54240777
Samefag.

>>54240860
The Lord Inquisitor project got greenlighted only on the promise he didn't make a cent. Not profit, but any money. If he got 1p from donations his license is revoked. The girl who did the game was using it as an excuse to get Patron bucks, so it was shut down.

Seriously, people have gotten mad for no fucking reason.
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>>54240862
If I recall correctly it was made in german and change it to english. Hence why it was so odd.

But why it went to shit? No idea.
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>>54240822
I know you're autistic so let me slow down to your level and explain.

In 40k there are no turret facings, there is no difference between hull armor and turret armor. In fact there isn't even armor at all anymore, it's all abstracted out to toughness now.

Are you still with me? So with this in mind, what defines a turret is its weapon.

Now for the next part, grab a pencil you might need to take notes here. Predator's are the Astartes main battle tanks, while Leman Russes are the Guards main battle tanks. Do you understand?

This makes Predators and Russes similar, they have similar roles, and they're both the primary tanks of their given faction.

Go back and re-read this post, or check your notes or whatever you'll need them to understand the final point. Knowing that Predator's and Russes are similar in role and function for their faction, knowing that in 8ED 40k a turrets defining feature is its gun, a Predator turret and a Russ turret with the same weapon are basically the same. Basically means similar but not exact by the way in case you still didn't quite grasp that.

I hope this has been educational for you.
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>>54240697
I don't know enough about Orks I am sorry!.... How did Guard do?
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>Samefag.
No, actually. I know it's hard for you to accept that more than one person could EVER disagree with you, but it happens, snowflake.

I'm almost certain you'll say I shopped this real quick too, which is possible, but unlikely.
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>>54240863
>implying mods on any board enforce board-related posting often if ever

You're joking right? This thread alone has plenty of posts that have nothing whatsoever to do with /tg/ if all those people caught 3-day bans this board, and every board on 4chan, would be empty in a single day.
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>>54240945
>would be empty in a single day.
Ahhh, that would be wonderful.
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>>54238330
THINGS SHALL GET PIC RELATED NOW
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>>54240954
>Moot left Hirohito a kekimus Decree taped up in a cardboard box with "In case of maximum faggotry" scrawled sloppily on it in sharpie.
>Within this box lies Moots meticulously crafted instructions for how to destroy 4chan should it ever get out of hand for the new owner
>Upon this decree is a single sentence:


>Enforce the rules, no exceptions, especially #3
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So do you guys really think they'll start just making bigger orks or some shit soon? I'm getting back in, but I wonder if I should avoid buying any new models in case orks get a lot more options after the codex comes out.

Any hope that GSC will get more models as well? It's a pretty small army for now, but I figure it got enough sales for GW to want to expand them a bit.
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>>54241017
>they'll start just making bigger orks or some shit soon
They're already doing that for Age of Shitmar.

It's inevitable for 40k. Especially since people already use AoS orc models in 40k.
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>>54238611
What bothers me about it is how rigidly emplaced that gun looks.
A gunner couldn't move it up, down or side to side with it, the whole tank would have to move just to aim those piddly barrels at an enemy

Same story as the twin-lascannon on the upcoming hover-tank
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>>54241023
Pretty sure the "Octarian Ork" will become a thing soon, as bits of the octavius super nids and super orks splinter off into the galaxy proper.
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>>54241047
horrible model

GW does some great stuff but they are overdesigning all there models
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>>54240926
My buddy who plays scions got second place, I don't think we had a regular guard player
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Playing Guard against Tau using Power Levels is FRUSTRATING AS FUCK.

Their troops cost the same but have better stats/weapons, and their suits absolutely shit on the Guard vehicles.
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>>54241047
Above the door. Is that a fixed facing missile pod?
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>>54241047
Those barrels don't look that piddly, mang.

I'm not saying it's food design, but it's 40k what were you expecting lol. Shit, the ork fliers are basically MiG 17s which is hilarious.
>>
Clarification question: Can, for example, an Astra militarum troop choice be in a detachment that is otherwise space marines? Is it that all two units have to have to be in the same army is any one shared faction keyword?
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>>54241070
you have orders, they dont. dont be a cuck
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>>54241073
yes

Why does this thing have more guns than an ork vehicle
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>>54241047
It's all good, as long as they never bring back firing arcs.
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>>54241059
I don't mind the model. IMO the only REAL issue with it is how retarded the turret looks. Get rid of it and it actually looks nice.
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>>54238330
THIS SILENCE OFFENDS SLAANESH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-FqHvr7OY
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>>54241073
It's a "get off my lawn" defensive weapon. I think it's something that's a one time use in melee combat deal that autohits, or something to that effect.

I'm guessing this based off the redemptor dreadnaught which I think has the same thing but it's on its head for some reason.
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>>54241079
They can be yes. They would be an Imperium army then. There's just an issue of what can buff what.
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>>54241083
Orders that don't really have a benefit when they can sit in their deployment zone and outrange you.

Also having extra lasgun shots does fuck all against the suits.
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>>54241086
I'm curious to know how that will work. I was thinking this >>54241102

Maybe if a unit disembarks and charges, they get x dice that inflict x mortal wounds?
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>>54241112
lol your trolling right? double lasgun shots does nothing against suits? are you a retard?
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>>54241047
It's like the Bradley and the M3 Lee had a retarded scifi lovechild. GW just cannot into tanks
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>>54241047
This thing really does look fucking hideous.

You can tell all they did was load up their CAD model of a land raider and tweak it a bit.

Tweak the tank treads model to use as hover panels.

Tweak the predator turret model and literally staple that shit to the top for no reason


Jam a twin-lascannon into the hull that looks stupid as fuck.

And it's primaris so we can't have just a storm bolter pintle gun it's got to be uh... an assault cannon yeah! There will probably be a heavy bolter option for pintle too.

Then just cover it in random bits like all those stupid boxes.

It looks so fucking terrible.
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>>54241112
>Also having extra lasgun shots does fuck all against
Let me stop you right there. Because the answer you're looking for is: at least twice as many lasguns. If that doesn't do the job, bring twice that amount next fight.
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>>54241161
If it didn't have the hull twin lascannon and the gigantic pintle rotor cannon it would have been fine as a space IFV imo.
This monstrosity supposedly comes with sponson options too. Seriously, fuck sponsons.
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>>54241161
And then they covered the whole fucking thing in missile launchers.
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>>54241161
agreed, too much jammed in

The basic primaris marines are great cause they are simple and streamlined and then this shit just has guns and panels everywhere making it look confusing and impractical
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>>54241203
If it were done a bit subtler it would have been fine as APS.
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>>54241112
>outranged
Where the fuck are your Battlecannons and Basilisks?
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>>54241146
Are you retarded? ACTUAL GAMEPLAY TESTING DIDN'T HELP. 120+ shots over 2 rounds got 3 whole wounds. That's if they ONLY target one suit. Completely ignoring the rest of the troops and getting fucked in the process.
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>>54241106
Other than the question of what's buffing what, is there any other explicit advantage to being an all space marine army? Or is it a fluffy choice mainly.
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>>54238611
Since when is Chaos allowed to have nice things?

It looks cool as fuck and I'm praying to Khorne that I'll be able to use it at least unaligned.
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>>54241112

Your infantry move 12+d6 inches a turn and get double their normal number of shots.
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>>54241243
>when is Chaos allowed to have nice things

You mean like berserkers being better than they have ever in the history of berserkers?

Yeah I wish I could get death company to attack twice in a single phase.
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>>54241159
I love how ever since world of tanks came out everyone has a doctorate in tank design lol.

Not disagreeing with you, one glance at literally any of the aircraft they've designed will let you know what level of realism you're dealing with.
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>>54241235
If you're this bad we really cannot help you.
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>>54241244
>12+d6 inches a turn and get double their normal number of shots
One or the other. Move up? Get blasted apart. Double shots? Still outranged and outclassed.

>>54241233
Battlecannons are too costly at low point level and get popped instantly, and basillisks are worthless on a 4x4 board.
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>>54241236
I personally find it to be pretty fluffy to have Guardsmen present. All Space Marines would just be because you like Space Marines more.
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>>54241235
That just sounds like some bad luck dude.

120 shots should get what, 60 hits, 20 saves, 6-7 wounds on the unit.
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>>54241275
>world of tanks came out
You know WoT has been out for like 6 years right?

And how there are no bradley's, or M3's in it?
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>>54241270
>Yeah I wish I could get death company to attack twice in a single phase.
That's what you get for worshiping a corpse.
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>>54241235

You only had 30 infantry?
Fucking why?
If you're running infantry, the way to do it is with massed conscript blobs that move 12+d6 inches a turn, are basically immune to morale and fire 100-200 shots each.
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>>54241070
>Their troops cost the same

Nigga tell me how Tau get fifty models for 6 power level

shut the fuck up.
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>Fate of Konor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKYGr1xgk_k

anyone else excite?
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Played my first game with my sisters today, beat orks with nothing but Celestine and a couple of Immolators left. I see now why Celestine and Immolators are auto-include, but I'm pretty sure I could do better. Any recommendations for what I should try to get to replace my bolter bitches?
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>>54241318
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>>54241285
>basillisks are worthless on a 4x4 board.
....I have no words for this level of bad. You're not secretly playing 7th with PL and trolling all of us are you? Did you even read you index or just assume you knew everything?
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>>54241285

You were bitching about them shooting you from their deployment zone.
That's why you run into range, then shoot them on your next turn.

I know you're mad because you're obviously really bad, and probably a little slow, but try to stop whining like a bitch for a minute and listen to the multiple people trying to help your retarded ass.
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>>54241243
The GW rules are actually pretty okay (relatively speaking). It's the new FW CSM stuff that has me borderline raging.
>>54241296
I'm pretty sure the Lee is there in one form or another.
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>>54241289
On a suit? No chance. Hitting on 5's. 30 hits, Wounding on 5's, 10 wounds. Then he gets his 2+ save making it 3 wounds if it went PERFECTLY.
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>>54241285
Oh my fucking god. Do you really believe Basilisk have a minimum range still? Please tell me otherwise.
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>>54241350
Oh, Crisis Suits are -1 to hit and 2+ save? That's pretty good hey.
>>
>Curze confides in Magnus instead of Fulgrim
How does it go from there, lads?
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>>54241350
>2+ on a battlesuit
wew
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>>54241394
What does Curze confide?

Not a fan of Batman and Linkin Park
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>>54241389
>Crisis Suits
Are you still playing 7th? No one fields crisis suits anymore.

Commanders can yes. Commanders are the shit now. They'll probably get nerfed like everything else Tau when they get their codex because Tau are not allowed to have any toys anymore.
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>>54241318
>only SM or CSM can win
I want both to be at 0 and see who gets kicked in the dick.
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>>54241070

>Their troops cost the same but have better stats/weapons

What the fuck kind of crack are you smoking, nigger?
50 conscripts is 6 power points, or about 120 regular points.
THAT'S FUCKING 2.4 POINTS PER MODEL
GUARD ARE FUCKING BROKEN WITH POWER POINTS

Unless you're a fucking moron who used regular infantry squads, where power points literally make them 50% more expensive.
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>>54241309
>using power level
>expecting balanced play

You guys need to understand that's just a little easy mode way for the kiddos to throw a game together. If you both regularly play and are familiar with the game just use matched play points and come back to us with your bitching.

Also, statistically, mathematically, theoretically, whatever, that amount of Las shots should have done more damage. Either you're exaggerating or got diced, and I'm sorry? I don't know what kind of conversation you wanted to generate other than fuck tau. Which we all here have already agreed upon.
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>>54241404
>What is Iridium armor
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>>54241270
arco-flagellants are literally just imperium berzerkers, and they can take multipliers like priests and celestine
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>>54241047
You ever see a minigun hookup? It's got a kind of retractable thing that comes in and out of the dock

I think that's what they were going for, like a doorgunner kinda thing
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>>54241318
I don't mean to sound like a dick in case I'm wrong but is that the leak tranny everyone keeps posting about?
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>>54241447
7th edition.
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>>54241426
>Guy talks about a game using power level
>Specifically to complain about power level
>People point out that he's not even doing bitch baby mode 40k right

Some people are just stupid anon.
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1800 pt tournament coming up
R8 it fags (inb4 WAACfaggot)

VANGUARD DETATCHMENT(+1cp)

Space marine captain w/ MCboltgun + chainsword (77pts)

5x Company Veterans : Veteran w/ boltgun, veteran sergeant w/ bolt pistol+chainsword (5x32pts)

3x AssBack w/ SB+HK (3x108)
3x AssBack w/ SB (3x102)

AIR WING DETATCHMENT(+1cp)

3x Stormraven w/ Twin Asscan + Twin MMelta + Hurricane Bolters (3x311pts)
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>>54241285
I believe it's actually 12+2d6 inches with that order which will get your billion cheap guys in range. They can just tank all of the shots and be fine.

>>54241424
Not sure why everyone is going on about conscripts specifically when any of the guard infantry are cost effective. Conscripts are 3 points, Infantry are 4 points. Infantry get access to heavy and spec weapons and are less vulnerable to leadership issues if the local commissar is strangely not present.

Who uses power points??
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>>54241456
Yes
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>>54241412
play xenos and crush all the shitters in your LGS then.
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>>54241489
Pretty convincing.
Didn't like the video though.
What's it's job?
How do they get the leaks?
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>>54241509
Would you fuck it?
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>>54241472

Gonna get raped if anyone brings a horde army.
drones, boyz, conscripts, gaunts, ect
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>>54241509
Also, what else did s/he leak?
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>>54241484
Conscripts get to have more benefit from fewer Order taxes. That's the reason they're effective. I love Infantry squads but they're just not as efficient unless we get a strategem that lets them blob up.

When that fucking happens though, hoo boy those floodgates get opened.
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>>54241318
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE SHARK-ASS TEETH.
>Speaking in upswings
NECK YOUR LIFE
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>>54241532
The entire point was to fuck horde armies though? Three twin hurricane bolters, and 9 twin assault cannons on mobile platforms.
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>>54241484

>I believe it's actually 12+2d6 inches with that order which will get your billion cheap guys in range.
The counter argument is that the order allows them to do a move+advance instead of shooting, and advancing in your original move specifically forbids you from shooting later.

>Not sure why everyone is going on about conscripts specifically when any of the guard infantry are cost effective.
Because the guy said he was using power points.
With power points, conscripts are effectively 2.4 ppm and regular infantry are 6 ppm
So if you are using power points for whatever reason, there's just no way you don't go with conscripts.
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>>54241318
>Pronounces Konor as Conner and not Ko-nor

>constantly stumbles over its words

Was this creature taught to speak just today? It needs more practice.
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>>54241525
Nah. Almost but nah.
Some things can't just go away. Shoulders, hands, hips.
Just ain't attractive.
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>Aun'va looked at the woman
>'who bitch this is?'
>she said something
>Aun'va replied
>'KYS senpai'
>she actually did it the absolute madman
Tau were a mistake.
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>>54241318
>never opens the 2 envelops

What was even the point of this video then?
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What do you all think of my list?
Mainly facing Dark Angels and Tyrannids at 40 PL.

Battalion +3 CP

HQ
Tempestor Prime - Command Rod/Power Axe
Commissar Yarrick

Troops
Tempestus Scions - 2 Plasma, Tempestor Power Axe)
Tempestus Scions - 2 Plasma, Tempestor Power Axe
Conscripts - 50 of them

Heavy Support
Cyclops Demolition Vehicle - Two
Heavy Weapons Squad - 3 Lascannons

Flyer
Valkyrie - Lascannon, Rocket Pods, Heavy Boltersr
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>>54241635
fucking top kek
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>>54241593

Well you've done a very bad job of it.

You could roll a 6 for every single hit and wound roll, while your opponent fails every armor save for 6 turns in a row, and still fail to wipe many horde armies.

LRC is a better anti horde unit than your fliers.
Also, elite infantry are usually a mistake against hordes.
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>>54241598
>Not calling it Conner
>Not adding in names for other planets like Tanner and Bryce to go along with Conner

It's like you don't have any fun.
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>>54241073
>>54241102
someone said enemy units within a certain distance, 1 or 2 inches? take 1d6 hits from the thing a turn. it said nothing about 1 use.
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>>54241682
So like Nurgle Rot?
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>>54241047

Why is the gunner wearing read armor?
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>>54241472
>1800 pt tournament
What the unholy fuck?
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>>54238859
Reminds me of a Medusa
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>>54241543
Yeah that's true, not sure why infantry squads can't blob up.

>>54241596
I mean you can do an order to someone who has advanced, like there's a specific order for shooting after advancing. There's no reason why they couldn't do the movement order and run a billion mph.

I mentioned everyone going on about conscripts as like, a general thing. I see a lot of people just talking about conscripts even for real points games when infantry are one point more.

I don't think I'd ever use power points.
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>>54241296
Both the Lee and the Grant are in WoT.
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>>54241711
GW flip flops back and forth between techmarines being the only marines to use weapons in vehicles, and regular marines being able to do it.
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>>54241711
Cause marine drivers are all aspiring techmarines

>t. My Ass
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>>54241669
Elite choices are literally only taken for the 32 pt squads allowing more razorbacks for more Dakka.

I'm genuinely curious as to how 108 s6 ap-1 shots along with 72 s4 shots per turn on durable mobile platforms falls flat vs hordes.
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>>54241532
> HORDEZ GIT U ANON
Nigga do you even math? He has MORE than enough firepower to fucking MULCH at least 2 30 man hordes a turn. As well as being infinitely more maneuverable. You must really suck at this game
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>>54241727
Local asshole thinks weird pt counts are fun apparently
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>>54241752

>I mean you can do an order to someone who has advanced, like there's a specific order for shooting after advancing.
That order specifically says you can shoot after advancing.

>There's no reason why they couldn't do the movement order and run a billion mph.
The order that lets you move farther lets you move again instead of shooting.
If you've advanced, you're not allowed to shoot, and therefore can't move again instead of shooting.
You can't receive more than one order a turn, so there's no way to get around this.

>I mentioned everyone going on about conscripts as like, a general thing. I see a lot of people just talking about conscripts even for real points games when infantry are one point more.
Because they're the posterboys for the new horde meta. Mostly due to how OP they get with orders.
Massed blobs of very cheap infantry who are basically fearless, and are commonly winning trades with imperial knights are something that gets a lot of attention.
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>>54241669
>Ground vehicle that can be surrounded and locked in melee is better anti-horde than flyer

Explain
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>>54241779
Just so you know, the guy you're replying to is autistic.

He is operating under the assumption that you will be facing 300+ conscripts/400+ orks.

Being that he is autistic, he doesn't understand that realistically most horde armies are only going to have at most 200 models because any more(and probably even that many) become too difficult to move in a tourny setting even with movement trays.
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>>54241669
> hurr durr LRC better!
You... You do realize that a LRC has LESS fire power as his Stormraven load outs right?
Do you even play?
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>>54241350

Was this the same anon who spammed flashlights vs a Broadside?

It's like yea no shit your basic inf weapon scratched the unpainted suit. You're IG ffs, bring some big guns, it's what you do
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>>54241811

I kinda figured desu senpai. Anyways, any suggestions to "make my army as gay as fucking possible"? As this is literally the theme of the tournament.
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>>54241820
b-but... muh 600 conscripts...
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>>54241829
To be honest, why Assbacks instead of Lasbacks.
The Ravens have your anti horde covered. More anti tank would be good.
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>>54241637
There's no point in taking a valk without a unit to gravchute with it.
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>>54241637
Any Guard players?
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>>54241804
Yeah actually you got me there I guess the order does say "Instead of shooting" so I'm not even sure anymore. I want some kind of official confirmation but until then I guess I'll stick with only one advance.

>>54241637
Weird list. Not sure what to think. Guessing the scions will end up dying pretty hard along with heavy weapons. I don't use PL.
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>>54241851
Pretty much because AssCans on Razors are *extremely* pt efficient vs GEQ. What abouy swapping the asscans on the Ravens to lascannons? (Potatoe potahtoe i know..)
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>>54238097
10/10, would accidentally mix in my edh deck
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>>54241456
This is a tranny?
Is this like the rolls Royce of trannies?
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If I took my Ven Contemptor Dread from my Talons box and made it into a Ven Chaplain Dread, with some nice iconagraphy and did a skull head etc do you think anybody would mind it as a proxy?
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>>54241860
Hmm, from the ability description I thought they required a flyer to be in the list so they can drop.

>>54241901
They're mostly there to drop, pop an important unit and then do as much damage as possible before dying.
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>>54241903
Because you want the backs to camp in the back on objectives, and 24 inch range means everyone can shoot you.
Ravens have to be close anyway for hurricane bolters, plus they fly, so they Are safe
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>>54241930
Modern technology is a wonder. As long as you start transitioning when you're younger (and you're not just ugly to begin with), you can probably look pretty good as the opposite gender.
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>>54241779

>I'm genuinely curious as to how 108 s6 ap-1 shots along with 72 s4 shots per turn on durable mobile platforms falls flat vs hordes.

Because hordes have more models than you can possibly kill.

>>54241811

The list being bad against hordes was my only criticism.

>most horde armies are only going to have at most 200 models because any more(and probably even that many) become too difficult to move in a tourny setting even with movement trays.

kek
Nice job outing yourself as a moron
I'd tell you to go get 200 of your models out and time how long it takes to move them, but we both know you don't have that many.
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>>54238097
Do Grey Knights!
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>>54241809

The landraider actually wins a shooting trade against conscripts, while the flyer doesn't.
Conscripts do fuck all in melee anyway.
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>>54241841

The dude brought 30 regular infantry, to a power point game, where they are overcosted 50% compared to normal points.
Stop your irrelevant memeing
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>>54242019
>he doesn't know what at most means
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>>54240523
Triggered?
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>>54242019
Your only criticism being possibly your worst one. Congrats. 9 asscans alone amounts to just over 45 dead geq in a turn, not counting rerolls of 1 with the captain.

The entire list was designed with real criticisms in mind or fuck off.

>>54241965
Very good point, maybe ill drop a razorback + vet squad and replace some asscans with lascans. Would synergize better with the captain as well
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>>54242071

How do you even come up with that as a response?
I want to know how you read my post, and assumed I didn't know what that means.
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>>54242094
You implied that 200 models was too many to move efficiently.

You proved that you have poor reading comprehension.
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>>54238660
at a guess based on what would be relatively simple to do and doesn't jist double up on other chaos tanks.

either Open topped transport, katyushka rocket battery for a not-exorcist or my top bet. An assault gun bioweapon "flame" thrower, gun sits in the tripple mount on the front with big chemical tanks where the mortar is.
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>>54242019
>>54242092
With hordes in mind*
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>>54238097
DO ALL THE FACTIONS!
But leave text boxes clear for fuck sake.
>>
The best thing about Guard this edition is that we can actually use troops without spending half of our points on shitty fucking chimeras just to ensure they made it past halfway down the board.
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>>54242104

>You implied that 200 models was too many to move efficiently.
No you implied that with this

>(and probably even that many)

And I further challenged you go find out specifically how long it would take, rather than using vague weasel words.
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>>54241901
You can use abilities that are 'instead of shooting' even if you can't shoot. The only caveat is that you don't shoot.
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>>54242171
Based smoke launcher FAQ
>>
I have a small Guard force and I see a lot of people talking about them. Can I get a meme free run down?
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>>54242132
>shitty fucking chimeras
Fight me in the back of the FLGS
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>>54242163
I've run ork green tide since 3rd edition.

I know precisely how long it takes to move 200 models.

Entirely too long. Even with movement trays.

>weasel words
kek you sure are assblasted at being proven wrong.
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>>54242012
Wouldn't know

I live in Seattle where a staggering number of trannies wonder.

Bunch of beerguts with long hair or awkwardly tall+skinny with giant hands
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>>54242182
Wachu got senpai? We'll lay out their +/-
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>>54242132

>shitty chimeras

My steel legion will cut you.
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>>54242092

>9 asscans alone amounts to just over 45 dead geq in a turn, not counting rerolls of 1 with the captain.
That's nowhere near the average.
Maybe you're thinking of twin assault cannons, and even then your math is wrong.
And that's a lot of points in models and weapons.

>The entire list was designed with real criticisms in mind or fuck off.
Alright, have fun showing up to the tournament with like 12 models while your opponent starts setting up his entire army of drones/boyz/gaunts/conscripts/ect
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>>54242246
>Cant use Autocannon chimera without posing as much cooler gasmaskfags
How does it feel?
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>>54242254
>while your opponent starts setting up his entire army of drones/boyz/gaunts/conscripts/ect


So link us some tournament results that had horde armies place. Go ahead. you can't
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>>54242246
Can't they take 2 Heavy Flamers and become baby hellhounds?
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>>54242243
50 guardsmen
A Russ
2 Chimera
Command team
Lord Commissar
Sniper special weapon team
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>>54242269
>Transports Faction Imperium

Why couldn't you?
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>>54242278

First place of the most recent GT was a complete new player yet was able to win with his horde of Stormravens
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>>54242288
Yes, plus keep the lasgun arrays that can fire in any direction.
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>Fell for the horde meme thinking I was gonna rock this edition
>Primaris Marines and Custodes just never die and destroy my hordes
>Bullets and lasers pinging off everything

Elite armies are so hard to dislodge this edition.
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>>54241752
>I don't think I'd ever use power points.
You must be lucky then. My LGS is power points for every event, and as such even casual matches are in it.
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>>54242210

If you've been using a list for 20 years and still can't move it quickly, then that's your problem.

>assblasted
Says the guy who abandoned his argument to try insists a person speaking the english language can't understand "at most"
As far as I'm concerned, you admitted defeat several posts ago, I was just wondering how your retarded mind came up with this as your surrender flag.
Now that I've found not even you know, I don't think I should allow you to speak to me any more.
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>>54242291
Youd have to admit theyre Krieg and not Steel Legion. Get wrecked Guardfag
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>>54242307

Just glue every piece of wargear you can take to your guys then.
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>>54242308
Nice attempt at moving the goalpost.

You can't move that many models efficiently regardless of how many years you've been using it.

Feel free to try and prove me wrong. But we both know you're just funposting and can't.
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>>54242307
>Power points for every event
Dear Emperor why. Power is potentially useful in some niche circumstances. Events are not one of them.
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>>54242254
>(0.66×0.83×0.83×108)=49.10
>being this fucking retarded
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>>54242336
>put on tray
>move tray
>have some models stand in for unit when it's a hill or building
Wow.
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>>54242348
Your math is wrong. If you can't even count right don't even bother speaking to me any more.
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>>54242348

First of all, it's exactly 50,
second of all, "just over 45" =! 50
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>>54242337
Quick setup times is why. Very limited space/time and they don't want people spending 2 hours building lists.
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>>54242382
>have some models stand in
You can take your house rules somewhere else.

Wobbly model syndrome applies to models, not trays of models.
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So what faction(s) do you hate fighting the most in the new edition?

I think I would go with Harlies.
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>>54242392
>they don't want people spending 2 hours building lists
Who cares how much time they spend building lists?

Are you building your models as you set them up for the game?

Of course you're not, you're building your models the same place you're building your list: Elsewhere before the game.
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>>54242399
>being a cunt about it
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>>54242389
First of all, making my point stronger
Second of all
>bad vs memescript armies lul
Hordes are the least of this lists concerns, which is why I was asking for non-fucking-autistic advice such as >>54241851
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>>54242389
>get's blown the fuck out
>tries to save face by being pendantic on the very point he was blown the fuck out on

Literally
K
E
K
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>>54242399

>wobbly model syndrome only applies to a number of models I subjectively decide is okay
Nice house rule
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>>54242431
Says the guy who abandoned his argument to try insists a person speaking the english language can't understand the basic rules.
As far as I'm concerned, you admitted defeat several posts ago, I was just wondering how your retarded mind came up with this as your surrender flag.
Now that I've found not even you know, I don't think I should allow you to speak to me any more.
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>>54242442
>wobbly model syndrome means wobbly tray of models because I don't know that model is singular, modelS with an S is plural, and that movement trays are not models at all.
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>>54242458
>>54242308
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>>54242434

>Hordes are the least of this lists concerns
>which is why I was asking for non-fucking-autistic advice

Okay, hordes of storm boyz will table you turn 2

>>54242441

>I quoted stats for the wrong weapon, did my math wrong, and got called on it by two different people
>lol ur so mad!

Yep, 100% irate over here.
Literally shaking, ect.
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>>54242458
>gets blown the fuck out
>thinks he won
>because he is too autistic to move models around
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>>54242458
Would someone translate this shit into English?
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>>54242473

How are you supposed to fit 50 models on a hill or in a building without risking them falling over then?
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>>54242246
My only problem is that in the FW index the armament of the Assault Chimera is listed only as the autocanon and the heavy bolter, the laser arrays aren't listed.

What is the point of the Death Korps of Krieg keyword in a transport?
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>>54242503
>Okay, hordes of storm boyz will table you turn 2

Thanks, now we are fucking getting somewhere


>I quoted stats for the wrong weapon, did my math wrong, and got called on it by two different people

Didn't realize i had to be autistically specific, and spoonfeed the names and rules about the most known faction in the fucking game.

So any real advice? Are you done being a fucking dipshit?
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>>54242539
To ensure that ONLY Krieg units get to use it.
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>>54242530
Ask the Ork player who played when the Truk's capacity was literally however many they could fit on it?
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>>54242424
Your post number is great. I haven't fought them yet, but I heard they are horrible to fight.

Right now I hate fighting Custodes. Their Land Raiders and models are annoyingly tough. My whole shooting phase felt like a joke and they blew through everything instantly.

I'm also feeling like I'm going to hate fighting flyers. I haven't yet, but they seem awful. I'm tempted to bring a Hydra, but all I have is my weak custom made Hydra so I'm embarrassed to use it.

Chaos, Genestealer Cult, Necrons and Marines have been really fun to fight so far.
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>>54242530
Same way you place models anywhere else.

And those that can't stand up because they're sliding off the hill, turn them on their side or set them at the bottom.
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>>54242566
>bucket on wheels counts-as trukk
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>>54242503
>hordes of storm boyz will table you turn 2
Do you even play this game or are you parroting something you read on reddit somewhere?
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>>54242566

Its capacity was unlimited, but the units who could ride in it were capped at 10
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>>54239254

>150 points with all options

Is it worth it to include a doom siren? They don't seem too powerful for the cost.
>>
So I'm reading the Grey Knights Omnibus and in the first book a GK terminator gets killed by some footsoldiers/mounted knights on a medeival world.

How? Wasn't there a guy in tactical dreadnought armor that got stepped on by a titan and lived? So how could some shittily forged swords and lances penetrate terminator armor?
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Gentlemen I fell for the MSU trap in 7th and now I only have 2 of each special weapon (plasma, volley, Melta) , a Tempestor, and a vox for my 3 Scion Teams. Would it be a terrible/wasteful idea to make next box nothing but hotshot lasguns?
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>>54242565
But in the <Regiment> rules it only say that you can't mix special abilities/buffs/orders, nothing about transports.
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>>54242655

Just play MSU MT.
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>>54242557

>>hurr my 9 assault cannons kills just over 45 guys!!

>No... that weapon kills 25
>the dual ac kills 50, but even then your math is wrong

>>DURR Y SO AUTISTIC LMAO
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>>54242653
>Wasn't there a guy in tactical dreadnought armor that got stepped on by a titan and lived?

Yes, a Space Wolf Terminator got stopped on by a "Nightgaunt-class Chaos Titan" which is basically a Chaos Warlord. From Terminator Index Astartes.

>So how could some shittily forged swords and lances penetrate terminator armor?

Because BL is full of shit.
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>>54242653
Plot Armor
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>>54242653
Everybody rolls a 1 on a 2+ armor save sometimes.
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>>54242665
Would YOU be upset if I counted my vox as hotshot lasguns if I needed to?
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>>54242736
Vox don't stop carrying a gun
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>>54242674
>Implying single Assault Cannons are available to Razorbacks or Stormravens

>Implying you have said a single valuable fucking thing so far

>I am a fucking lexicon and gods gift to 40k yet I have done nothing but prove how fucking stupid I am with each further post

So seriously, do you have any actual suggestions? Or are you being this stupid on purpose?
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>>54242736
>implying I know or care what your wargear is other than melta and plasma
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>>54242764
>he can't tell when someone is trolling him
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>>54242748
Don't they have to use a pistol now though instead of a full rifle?
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>>54242769
>hurr durr, I was only pretending to be retarded!
If you are having some disagreement with an anon and come out looking stupid, just walk away. You're an anon, there is no reason for pathetic, transparent attempts to save face.
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>>54242780
>It's true
That is so goddamn retarded I don't know what to say.
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>>54242764

>Implying single Assault Cannons are available to Razorbacks or Stormravens
Yes, clearly by correcting the errors in your post, I was implying this

>So seriously, do you have any actual suggestions?
I've made 3 already, go look back through the thread.
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>>54242802

That guy isn't even the guy you were talking to.
Your post is pretty ironic considering all the posts you've made so far though.
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So how good are Valks? It seems like they're just better Lemans.
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>>54242769
Pic related

>>54242826
Are you lascannon anon? Or "the things your list counters are going to table you" anon? If the latter, also pic related.
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>>54242885
Is it "ironic"? Because I'm not even the anon that was being "trolled", I just hate posters making excuses for stupidity they can't back up.

I see "you were being trolled" I don't even need to read the whole thread of replies. I know which side suddenly ran out of argument.
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>>54241637
Okay so I'm going to take the Valk out since they don't do anything for the list. Any recommendations on what to replace it with?
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>>54242930

>well I'm not the guy he was talking to anyway!
>I just jumped into a page 10 thread because a post triggered me
Does that make things any better in your mind?
If so, I'll go along with it.
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>>54243051
>have a fuckhuge bayonet
>carries a sword anyway

Why?
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>>54243078
Backup bayonette.
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>>54243078
To get the extra attack. Pretty pointless now.
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Doing a 3000 point game, opponent is bringing a Warhound Titan, and I think some IG to back it up.
My list is;

Battalion:
HQ;
Masque of Slaanesh
Herald of Slaanesh on Exalted Chariot
Daemon Prince w/ Wings (Paired Malefic Talons and Warp Bolter)

Troops;
Daemonettes x10 (Instrument of Chaos)
Daemonettes x10 (Instrument of Chaos)
Daemonettes x10

Elites;
Noise Marines x6 (4xSonic Blasters, Bastmaster, Champion has Doom Siren, Plasma Pistol, Chainsword)

Fast Attack;
Chaos Bikers x6 (replace Bolt Pistols w/ Chainswords)
Seekers of Slaanesh x6

Flyer;
Heldrake (Claws and Baleflamer)

Heavy Support;
Soul Grinder (Warpclaw instead of sword)

Super Heavy Detachment;
Renegade Knight (Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike Gauntlet, Heavy Stubber, Stormspear Rockets)
Renegade Knight (Rapid-fire Battle Cannon, Heavy Stubber, MeltaGun, Reaper Chainsword)
Renegade Knight (Reaper Chainsword, Avenger Gattling Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Stubber)

How fucked am I?
for the record he's proxying the warhound titan to see if he wants to get one,
I'm borrowing 3 of his Imperial Knights to try out as Renegade Knights since I've never been able to try out Renegade knights on the field
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>>54243051
An equal value of Taurox
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>>54243073
>I just jumped into a page 10
I just leave this shit open. What are you doing here if you didn't even consider that possibility?

>>54243078
If the bayonet breaks, she can tie her sword to her gun.
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Alright so we all know that women can't be space marines.

But what about chaos space marines? Can a chaos space marine, who was originally male, be transformed by corruption, mutation, and blessings of slaneesh, into a woman?

ie they are now a chaos space marine with female genitalia, a feminine figure(wide hips, narrow shoulders, angular face) and no male genitalia?
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>>54243146
I get why Slaneesh would give them tits and a pussy... but why would it ever take away their penis? If anything, they'd get two more of those.
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>>54243136
Only own one Taurox. Also it would still leave me with 2 points even if I did have 2.
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>>54243146
The warp can do whatever the fuck it wants. So yes.
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>>54243135
You're going to think that you want to get your Knights into close combat with the titan to make use of their reaper chainswords, but you're wrong it will devastate them.

Fire everything you've got at it and you might be able to bring it down.

That's for a fun game.

If you want to win, ignore the titan until you have eliminated absolutely all of his guard, then go sit on the objectives. A single titan won't be able to clear more objective than it can take. And being that it's a single model, it won't be able to take an objective unless you have no models whatsoever on it.
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>>54243135
As long as you don't plan on meleeing it and realize that at most it's killing 2-3 tanks or units per turn despite costing 1500points you should be fine.
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>>54243146

A Chaos Space Marine can turn into a woman. There's also one woman who stole a possessed suit of power armor after killing its owner.
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>>54243167
Ratlings are 2 Power for 5
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>>54243215
>There's also one woman who stole a possessed suit of power armor after killing its owner.
Wearing power armor doesn't make you a space marine.

Inquisitors wear power armor, sisters of battle wear power armor. Neither are or ever have been space marines.
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>>54243215
It's more the daemon in the armor posessed the woman, and killed the owner, essentially becoming independant, if trapped inside the body of a woman/armor.
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>>54243238

Ah, but those don't wear ASTARTES power armor. You use an Inquisitor in INQUISITOR POWER ARMOR as an example, and an SoB wearing SoB POWER ARMOR.

Therefore, anyone wearing ASTARTES POWER ARMOR must be an Astartes.
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>>54243256
I'm not sure if this is bait or you just don't know what a space marine is so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and hope that you don't sperg out in your response.

A space marine is a genetically modified human, they're huge, have extra organs, including organs that no human has, and are still a space marine even when they're not wearing power armor. ie scouts are space marines but they don't wear power armor.

Wearing astartes doesn't make you an astartes. The Black Carapace and other modifications make you a space marine.
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>>54243146
I've got a few of these gals. Originally was going to call them unusually pretty slanneshi, but females in terminator armor work too.
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>>54243256
>When I have the power armor on, I am a Space Marine!
Kinky, but not technically true.
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>>54243304
>You can be the apothecary and "implant" your "genesperm" in me
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>>54243188
I just gave them the reaper chainswords because I'd rather use those if I'm forced into melee and I was starting to run out of points.
Not sure what mission we're doing, but thanks for the advice.
>>54243213
Oh cool.
I was a little worried since I heard titans are heaps stronger than knights, but I guess I also heard Warhound is like a baby titan, or something.
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>>54243237
Don't own any, haha.
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>>54243333
Should add. If it's a specialty model that has been shit for years there is a 100% chance I don't own it.
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>>54243327
Titans and the macro rule in general are best wielded against other Titans. Sure you can easily do 40 wounds in one shot but a predator or 5-man havok squad doesn't have 40 wounds so most of their firepower is wasted because you can't have wounds overflow from unit to unit.
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>>54243405
Snipers are good for squatting on objectives. Even with the new sniper rules you'd need like 30 of them to even have a good shot of killing a critical hero over the course of 2 turns.

Dunno why people are hyped over snipers this edition. I'd rather field 600pts of more dudes than 600 points of snipers if I wanted a char dead.
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>>54243548
It seems like the only decent sniper is the assassin one.
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>>54243507
So the sheer number of units I have might end up giving me an advantage here?
I planned on my daemonettes being my main melee force, with Bikers and Seekers working to route his snipers if he brings any, Noise Marines as my main guns, Heldrake was going to be my infantry slayer and Souls Grinder was going to be back up for the three Knights trying to kill his Titan.
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Mathematically, how many nurgling bases would it take to destroy a warhound titan?
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>>54243846
too many to fill a table, and the titan would still win
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>>54243846
35 wounds with a 3+ save means 105 saves to kill it
105 saves, wounding on 6+ means 630 hits
630 hits, hitting on 4+ means 1260 attacks

Nurglings have 4 attacks each, so 315 Nurgling Bases

Of course, it's impossible to actually fit 315 nurglings into melee, so that doesn't really work out.
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>>54243935
So you don't know the math either?
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>>54243946
>it's impossible to actually fit 315 nurglings into melee
That's why you just take the number of nurglings you can fit into melee, divide the number of total attacks to kill by that, and multiply by number of turns.

Scarabs though can fit in combat and kill it.
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>>54243946
Oh oops, Nurglings reroll 1s to wound, so its slightly less

6's to wound rerolling 1's is 11/36 to wound

so you only really need 344 hits, which is 'only' 688 attacks

Still need 172 nurglings though.

>>54243982
No idea what the base size of a Warhound is though.

You can probably fit what, 30-40 tops? that's still 5-6 turns, assuming the big guy doesn't fight back.

As an aside, 172 Nurglings is more than twice the cost of that Warhound in points.
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>>54243846
>>54244022
Funny thing is it only takes 115 conscripts to kill the titan and you can easily fit that man in range(shooting range that is)

They also cost a fraction of what the titan costs.
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>>54243947
well i was assuming 7 games turns, are we assuming infinite game turns? and that the titan isnt attacking back and removing models?
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who broke /tg/
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>>54243614
He costs too much for only d3 damage imho
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Tell me if my Tau scheme is garbage before I waste a lot of money on paint.
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>>54244440

Make sure the shoulder sept marking is also red and it looks good. Basically just any sept with a red marking in forest camo.
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>>54242392
Wait, so you're running an event and not having the participants submit their list at least a week in advance so it can be reviewed to make sure it's legal?
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>>54244467
Yeah just missed that when I was Photoshopping, good catch though.

Still figuring out how I want to base these guys, either gonna go with a jungle theme or a forest one. Probably doesn't make much difference in the end.
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