Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for let's talk more about female marines.

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>>54233360
Ok. How likely is it, do you think?

>>54233396
As likely as plastic sisters.

>>54233360
I play Chaos and I think you deserve purging.

So I notice betrayal at Calth Contemptors are still selling cheap on eBay, but I already have one with cut and reposed legs and some simple decorations added... so if I was to make another I'd want some conversion ideas to make it more unique looking. Hardly want two identical chapter ancients.

Any thoughts?

>>54233409

How about fem heretic Astartes?

Tried real hard to fit a Fellblade in a fluffy list but it's pretty hard considering how the Relic rule works.
it's DKK + SM
https://pastebin.com/B8ujuuSc

Pretty straightforward I'd say, but maybe I should drop something for a couple of priests
I also wanted some SM models to use the Relic stratagem.
Any thoughts?

>>54233410
/wip/, art dumps and Pinterest might help you better than us.

>>54233396
0%, they would have already done it with nu-marines if they ever considered doing it.

I mean, primaris are made by upgrading old space marines, right? it's not a another method of making marines through transforming normal people? Or both?
Either way it doesn't matter now, all primaris are male which is an indicator of how GW will keep them.

Reminder to encourage thread diversity by ignoring Guardfags

NOBODY MOVE! Dat grot got glassed and no git leaves 'ere 'till we find out wot git did it

>>54233432

Probably, but given all I really need is a substantial change to the look of the sarcophagus I'm not really thinking this is an elaborate conversion to ask ideas for.

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>>54233429
>fluffy list
>I also wanted some SM models to use the Relic stratagem

>>54233426
I already play Emperor's Children.

>>54233456
well I mean, wouldn't it be weird to have a random Fellblade in a IG army without some kind of SM escort?
I feel like it still fits the fantasy

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Guys.
Seriously.
Tau are the best race and Fire Warriors are more skilled than Guardsmen!

Considering they are out, anyone have a scan of the rules for the new librarian and captain?

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>>54233482

>>54233481
>Tau are the best race

Laughable

>Fire Warriors are more skilled than Guardsmen

True but that says jack shit.

>>54233481
Best race to throw into furnaces, you mean.

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>>54233410

Dunno how elaborate you wanna go but I swapped out the gorget on mine for a venerable dread gorget.

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>>54233446
I think there's a chance GW may be bringing back the Missing Legions to do it.

Would anyone have a problem if chapters were still segregated by gender?

Daemons are a part of their respective god right? Does that mean it is possible to bring the whole god out of the warp?

Do you think there would be an issue using a dual Kheres Contemptor Mortis?

>>54233497
Cheers, compared to the originals they do not exactly seem amazing.

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Just when i thought i'd gotten off the plastic crack.

Stupid sexy robots.

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>>54233461
Third Legion
Best Legion

>>54233446
>they would have already done it with nu-marines if they ever considered doing it.
Why? They've showed first female Stormcasts only after year since AoS launch
ALso, I think we should upgrade level of discussion

I want Esdese and his EC posting to leave.

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>>54233554
Superior Third coming through.

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>>54233461
They do make a good fluff justification for conversions.

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>>54233481
I mean, they're probably the nicest and Fire Warriors ARE better than Guardsmen, but we have another billion Guardsmen and half billion Skitarii, which are probably around as good as a Fire Warrior even before the techpriests Assume Direct Control. How many planets do Tau have now, and how many dudes roughly on each one? Because I bet you can't outLogistics the Admech even if you were willing to be horrifically cruel to your workers.

>>54233550

They are nice, aren't they. I'm looking forward to painting the two I have, I'm just going to speedpaint my way through my Sicarians and Kataphrons so I can get to them faster. Not like you'll see those two unit types much anymore anyway.

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I'm working on an Iron Warriors army and I'm wondering how I'd go about correctly carving the eye sockets in pic related to be rounder. What tool would you recommend to round them and not fuck it up?

>>54233544

An all dread army guy here: The dual Kheres Contemptor rates above average efficiency, being an effective anti-light, medium, heavy infantry and light vehicle platform.

With it's 9 inch move it's easily able to reposition if it falls out of range.

It isn't as good as a 7th edition dual kheres C-Mortis simply because the bonus over regular Assault cannons is nowhere near as good: +1 strength is a lot worst than +2 shots, especially in 8th.

>>54233615
Check out /wip/, we just shitpost here.

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>>54233554
yeah boi
>>54233585
wow

I have been scouring the net and I cant find anything, does anyone have a scan of Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer.

Does anyone have a copy they could upload?

>>54233632
There isn't a /wip/ open at the moment, it's actually why I posted here

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>>54233585
Uh, nice.

I dream of the day they'll get some naked abs guys, though.

That would be the time I return to 40k EC.

>>54233516
Yes.

>>54233561
Because that was the time to introduce new elements in the story. We've established now that nu-marines are the same as old marines in that there are no women in their ranks and no ones thinking of introducing them.

Stormcast could ALWAYS be female and this was mentioned as such in their first relese, it's just that only no-, well, soon(?) we're getting models for them.

Newly converted Guard/Scion guy here (former Tau)
Is Tyranids an interesting race as a third offshoot faction for smaller games?
Mainly so I can bring in friends to play and not have the two same armies all the time.

>>54233481
But not better than Scions.

>>54233585
They dont really look like marines, just fallen sisters.

>>54233547
They're just the basic rules. I'm thinking they'll probably be expanded in the Codex.

In general, though, they're not supposed to be massively better than originals, just marginal improvements.

That said, if you notice on the pricing, you can take the Primaris Captain, I believe, with a Deathwatch army, meaning they're the first Primaris marine that is officially able to be in Deathwatch.

>>54233700
Sure, that or GSC both are.

>>54233481
This is true, and no matter the numbers of the enemy they can kill so many even the imperium becomes hesitant about a war of attrition.

>>54233724
>GSC
?

>>54233446
No.

Primaris are made like the other space marines, take a regular candidate and implant geneseed.

They have geneseed for ever Legion, traitor, loyal a s the missing 2.

It's safer and a bit faster than the original method too.

>>54233773
Genestealer cults.

>>54233773
Gene
Stealer
Cunts

>>54233779
>safer and faster
I'd love to see 20 man squads of marines.

Is a flamer and combi-flamer tac squad any good?

Last thread people were giving me suggestion about how to use a Dev kit and a Tac kit. Thinking of making at least 2 dev squads, leaving me with a 5 man tac squad. Would probably have one squad with 2 plasma and 2 lass cannons and the other with 2 heavy bolters and 2 with just plain bolters.

Are the melee weapons in the dev kit a trap? Seems so odd the dev sarge would come with so many options when the squad he's with is meant to stay the fuck out of melee.

>>54233798
scared.jpg

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>>54233481
>more skilled than Guardsmen
Sure but not more skilled than a Firstborn Guardsmen.

>>54232379

>house rules
They would have the be interesting and correspond to fluff. For example, Regimental doctrines for IG or hive fleet genetic traits for Tyranids.

>>54233835
You posted a picture of a battle that the Tau won and massacred the whole IG force.

>>54233516
Wait we could have Primaris of the missing legions?

>>54233816
you can do a 5 man squad and put them in a razorback and give them flamer + combi-flamer for some good shock factor
they are also pretty good at holding vs. charges because of overwatch fire.
My personal favorite is plasma + combi-plasma for maximum versatilty (although slightly more costly)

>>54233811
Based on Dark Imperium, we'll be getting it. They mention that they did frequently deploy in 20 man squads.

>>54233779
You also can upgrade existing marines, as well as create new ones.

So expect to see Primaris versions of existing characters.

>>54233861
Guilliman is against it, but they wouldn't have mentioned it unless Cawl was going to do something with them anyway.

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Emperors Children Resurgent update. I think I'm doing okay. I think I need finer brushes.

>>54233516
But anon, you can already play as the successor of one of the lost Legions.

Mortifactors, Doom Eagles and Scythes of the Emperor

>>54233863
I've already got one with plasma+combi-plasma so I was looking for some variety.

>>54233811
>>54233867
Think of Primaris Marines as marines from the legion days.
If you noticed, all the squads have the same equipment (like the Hellblasters) so you can expect some big squads of marines (unless they want you to waste additional force organization slots to get primaris which is fine)

>>54233835
>melee
Well no shit.

>>54233481
That thread was fucking hilarious.

>>54233900
>40k is turning into 30k

>>54233882
Has anyone successfully reattached the helmet on the autobolt lieutenant?

>>54233798
>>54233791
Oh right
Sorry they're so new for me they didn't even come to mind.
Same with custodes.

>>54233481
As a probably vain attempt at a reasonable non-bait answer, fire warriors are worse in melee than guardsmen due to their slower reflexes (but no noted difference in strength or speed, basically just worse reactions to a combat knife to the face which is a bad time to be slow to act), about the same at shooting stuff (better at distance vision but worse depth perception, balances out more or less), and more disciplined than guardsmen (noted as being...well, more disciplined than guardsmen, basically).
This varies heavily however in that whilst the t'au fire warriors are all trained to about the same standard across the empire, the imperium is so absurdly vast that even regular guard can vary in quality anywhere between 'penal legion in all but name' to 'stormtroopers minus hellguns'.

>>54233879
God I fucking love Cawl.

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>>54233859
I just enjoy posting pics of died or dying tau. Tell me what happened after this one.

>>54233900
I'm hoping that they'll give the various variant bolt rifles as options to the squads, either as special weapons or across the board. IE: allow them to take Stalker or Auto Bolt Rifle versions of things.

There was a leaked image that looked like a heavier version of a Hellblaster, some are thinking it may be just the full posable kit of them, but wonder if it's not like a true Devestator grade one, and the Aggressors aren't the only ones.

I'd love to see Aggressor be able to take the Assault Bolters Interceptors get, and Interceptors to get the hand flamers, and them BOTH to be able to get Boltstorm Gauntlets. All of those would be fitting options, I think, and give them good variety.

>>54233930
Blame Rawbutt Girlyman
He's mentally stuck in 30k and who knows what he and Big E discussed at the Golden Throne

>Dad, wtf is going on
>idk son, there's no cable here

>>54233859

Which conflict?

>>54233700
GSC can even let you take IG units so it's a no brainier.

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>tfw no one gave reason as to why Karanak is or isn't worth his points, only a guy who saw the 6+ save and forgot he had a 5++, and a guy who didn't understand that a 1 always fails
Are Flesh Hounds still good at least? 20ppm

>>54233940
Well, with GSC, you could do a small force of some good Tyranid stuff and if you ever want, you could make a GSC/AM mixed list.

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Is Warhammer fun? The actual game I mean. I'm haven't been into arts and crafts since I was in kindergarten.

>>54233955
>and I thought I told them to cut your life support

>>54233954
My personal guess is that the entire squad will have to stick with the same gear choices a là legion squads.
Those hellblasters look like an alternate version of the normal ones, just with fancy backpacks for their plasma incinerators (kinda like some IG units do with their special weapons) but let's wait and see

I personally can't wait for a new DA codex maybe we'll get something cool, like restoring the other 4 wings from the Heresy days

>>54233960
Eh, I guess if summoned in, yeah, otherwise I worry about them being able to get into combat. They're shockingly not really all that fast compared to a lot of things. When they get there, could be nasty, but for 20 points a piece? I feel like it's a bit much.

>>54233985
If you just want a dice and miniature game I honestly recommend X-wing Miniatures Game.

>>54233998
Legion Squads can't take special or heavy weapons?

>>54233912
Guard are the best bs4+ army there is now. I've been out-shooting tau for weeks.

>>54233985
Yeah, if you've got good folks to play it with.

>>54234012
I have Armada. No one else wants to play. They want to paint little army men instead.

>>54234022
No lights?
They deserved it.

>>54233985
Its fun, but avoid anything even remotely competitive.
The game is all about building slowly your army, assembling, painting it, having a few games now and then(2 hours per game minimum at average lenght).
The game is not balanced, it will never be but its really fun if you dig into it.
Its more than just "i wanna throw dice"tho because its more a full hobby that will sink your time and money for at least 20 years.

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Sexy

>>54234037
I'd play with you
Well as long as you enjoy painting and assembling minis it's a fun game.

>>54234022
I'm looking forward to Codex Space Marines so my 20-man Intercessor squads will match range with Tau and be honestly better because while both will wound on a 3+ but Primaris will have the -1 AP.

Would 8th edition be more balanced if all Lords of War and Flyers were banned?

>>54233960
They are okay.

They work wonder if you get some Fiends of Slaanesh too.

>>54234062
Sauce?

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>>54234062
Some kind of a Vindicator tank?

>>54234079
Eh?

Maybe restricted. Flyers in particular, but LoW limited to above 2k games, maybe.

>>54234062
Thats a hell of call back to the older chaos aesthetic. I like it, and will probably buy it even if the rules stink.

>>54233426
It makes sense because le tzeench so i dont see why not

>>54234095
>>54234094
>>54234062
My guess is a modified Vindicator that shoots balls of goop and space aids

>>54234094
That gun is clearly much bigger than a regular demolisher.

>>54233985
>>54234059
Oh, and whatever you do:
DON'T PLAY COPMPETITIVE
don't ever powerceerp
never, ever follow /tg advice on how to get, never listen to anyone "x is shit and you're a retard for not playing y instead".
Avoid any player who does this.
>>54234079
The point of 8th is that more than 7th there'll always be a unit thats better point/value, and people will always spam those.
Thats because its a lot more flexible in army building.
Its a problem only on tournaments tho(and tourns are cancer), because the game is a lot more balanced than previous eds and allows for more varied list buildings without fear of beign overwhelmed or tabled turn one.
In 7th againt non competitive armies you needed just one of the OP units to completely broke the game. In 8th this happens only if you spam like hell.
>>54234062
MUH DICK

>>54234108
>balls of goop and space aids

Laughed

>>54234108
24" toss balls of shit.

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>>54234092
>>54234094
>>54234095
>>54234102
>>54234108
Apparently it's some kind of plague mortar. Lady Atia says it's called a Plagueburst Crawler.

>>54234059
Long term is the only way I would ever think of this game. I won't have an army for battle forged unless I literally drop 500 bucks at will like these fools. I play other games 'casually' but crave the balalnced gameplay they offer.


I saw other people saying you moatly dont even spend time playing the game. The more I think about it the less I want to go down this road.

>>54234142
What? She's been the most consistent source of leaks for two years now.

How to field a Fellblade 101: Don't

>why is it so goddamn hard
>fuk you relics

send halp

>>54234131
She is right:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/07/plagueburst-crawler-getting-started.html

>>54234131

>Barrage weapon for CSM
Took them a while, didn't it?

>>54234132
>but crave the balalnced gameplay they offer.
then warhammer is not for you.
You can play oif course smaller games- a start collecting is all you need to play, which is 60 bucks +20 for a few paints and one brush.

Building, assembly and slowing seein your dudes grow and getting their reputation on the field, growing from small skirmishes to full-fledge armies is what makes warh unique and keeps people hooked.

If you don't like it, find another game because its deinetely not what yoiu're looking for.

>>54234156
Ignore them, it's a bad troll. Basically anyone who brings up 'tranny' or 'manface' can be. They also get all pissy any time anyone posts a Sister of Battle or Sister of Silence.

>>54234177

>Going off topic on some minuscule, irrelevant detail
Of course you would think he's the stupid one.

>>54234177
Nobody could get reliable leaks that early without giving up some pussy.

>Eldar act fucking stupid all the time and literally have childish motives for dicking everyone over when they do something stupid
>Somehow they are able to go "JUST AS PLANNED" every fucking time and get away unscathed

How anyone can have the audacity to call the Space Marines mary sues and not the Eldar is beyond me.

>>54233998
Nigga it's pretty fuckin obvious that we'll be getting our damn Primarch when our codex comes out.

>>54234255
Because no one gives a shit about them.

>>54234260
Which reminds me:

VULKAN WHEN, GW?

>>54234239
Don't give them (you)s

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Can someone explain the practical use of Titans to me? I'll use Pacific Rim as an example, where Nukes did too much collateral damage to towns and didn't always kill them, and the monsters bled radioactive shit, so they needed to pretty much beat them to death to minimize damage to cities from shooting missles at them nonstop and them still going yet bleeding everywhere. How is a Titan practical in 40k?

>>54234255
>Ahriman now a stronger psyker than Eldrad
I think we're fine.

Were the FW index errata from the community sote posted in the last thread, or am I ahead of the curve for once in my life?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/09/forge-world-faq-july9gw-homepage-post-4/

>>54234260
That actually make me rock hard

No pun intended
(Get it? because of The Rock...fine I'll just leave)

I have 150 spare points in my 2k Admech list, what should I slot in?

>>54234310
>40k
>practical
Hello, newfriend!

I really love Guard and Nids and Orks, but I don't want to actually play a horde army. But on the other side, marines seem like what I want to play, but I really don't like their fluff.

why must i be a disappointment forever

>>54234016
it's organised a bit differently, normal legion squads can't take special or heavy weapon's (although the sergeant gets the usual combi-weapon and close combat options) instead they can take up to 20 marines, a standard bearer, vox and cc weapons. They can also shoot twice in their shooting phase so long as they didn't move that turn but then forgo any more shooting until the end of their next turn.

Instead you get
Breacher squads who have siege shields and can take one special weapons for ever five marines
Tactical support squads who all get the same special weapons (except for sergeant)
Heavy weapons squads where all marines have the same heavy weapon (except sergeant)

Veterans are more like normal squads where you can take a special or heavy weapon for every five marines and they can also move and fire the heavy weapon. They are limited to heavy flamer, missile launcher or heavy bolter though

>>54234260
How do you know that ?

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>>54234050
I'm sure he had some ml. He's been trying lots of different things since since 8th cane out. Last game he tried something like(I don't know xeno nonsense vary well) 3 commanders, 2 ghostkills, a stormsurge, and fire warriors and drones everywhere. Blow him off the table by turn 3. When it comes to unpainted tau I know no mercy.

>>54233957
Nimbosa, Koloth Gorge massacre. I think.
Commander Brightsword was punished for his remorseless butchery of the vostroyans.

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>>54233360

>>54234327
Another Dunecrawler never hurts, that's 151 with Neutron + both stubbers, and you can drop one if needed.

>>54234339
>rumor engines have been filled with nothing but lions
>cypher being back advancing DA lore

>>54234355
I already have 2 dunecrawlers in the list, one Neutron one Phosphor. Should I replace the Phosphor with an Icarus array?

>>54234255
>soulstorm Eldar ending
>imperium takes over system, they kill anyone that tries to settle in the necron desert
>guard wins
>no one settles in the desert shithole because it's a desert shithole
Makes you think.

>>54234339
>>54234356
My guess is that the Lion and Leman Russ will come back together to further fuel the rival theme, but not until they show Mortarion + another chaos primarch (maybe Fulgrim)

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Fresh meat for the OP.

FW Errata & FAQs.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/09/forge-world-faq-july9gw-homepage-post-4/

Lots of shit to digest.

>>54234310
A titan isn't practical. It's shock and awe.

>>54234387
I thought it'd be Mortarion > Lion > Fulgrim/Angron > another loyalist primarch > Angron/Fulgrim > another loyalist primarch etc.

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>>54234356
Age of Sigmar lions, you dangle brained idiot.

>>54234388
‘If your army is Battle-forged, no Detachment can
contain more Relic units than it does non-Relic units
of the same Battlefield Role. You can, however, include
a single Relic Lord of War unit in your army even if it
contains no non-Relic Lord of War units (you cannot
include second and subsequent Relic Lord of War units
unless they are taken in a Detachment that contains at
least as many non-Relic Lord of War units).’

>this got me super fucking hard
>I can field my fellblade now

>>54234388
Of particular note, you can bring your Relic Lord of War units without fucking around now.

ERRATA
Page 4
– Additional Rules, Relic
Change the first paragraph to read:
‘If your army is Battle-forged, no Detachment can
contain more Relic units than it does non-Relic units
of the same Battlefield Role. You can, however, include
a single Relic Lord of War unit in your army even if it
contains no non-Relic Lord of War units (you cannot
include second and subsequent Relic Lord of War units
unless they are taken in a Detachment that contains at
least as many non-Relic Lord of War units).’

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>>54233453
New Ork models when? They are by far my favourite faction but the old boyz models kill it for me.

I want upright posture, more proportionate heads and big floppy ears like in Deff Skwadron.

>>54234310
In any situation where extermunatus isn't warranted, it's because the planet is of vague importance/usefulness to the Imperium and also salvageable.
Up until then it's just how much they can afford to escalate the conflict without making the planet un-salvageable.
Titans are just another rung on that ladder

>>54234404
Except that we already know what model the Stormcuck Shiternal lions come from. And those have been long out.

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>>54234404
Fulgrim pls get out.

>>54234102
Even if the rules.... STINK. Because Nurgle.

>>54234310
They're not, really, although that plasma weapon on the Warlord is powerful enough to straight up gut an 8km starship that rips up Eldar warships with one shot and go toe-to-toe with an entire Black Crusade fleet for a while. Do not fucketh with the Titan guns, or they will Friendly Fire the shit out of you. They also are the mother of all armoured support, there's a bit in Titanicus where one Reaver wades into about 80 individual artillery batteries and continues to Not Give A Fuck until enemy Engines show up.

Basically, if you have a Titan, you WILL beat anyone who doesn't, and they cause less collateral and are more reliable than Lance Strikes. They're a very good way to completely invalidate the enemy's largest conventional battlegroup without bombarding, say, important Forge World manufactoria too much.

They're mostly just horrendously cool, Reavers look coolest IMO.

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>>54234347
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/09/forge-world-faq-july9gw-homepage-post-4
They coming out with a horus, too. Decided they'd get themselves a youtube channel, apparently. They're getting enough attention that GW gone have to act eventually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoqhEkCr83g

>>54234411
(You) of agreement.

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>>54234317
Hey, that's neat. I don't play EC, but it's cool they've finally got that option back.

>>54234401
4 loyalist Primarch of the big 4 Chapters vs 4 Daemon Primarch of Chaos Gods is my safest bet.
Though there would be amount of assblasting when GeeDubs try to bring Sangy back because " muh space Jesus's sacrifires. "

>>54234444
That's Abaddon.

>>54234376
Phosphor is almost completely useless because Kastelans exist and do that job way better. Get another Neutron Laser instead, they do almost everything that the Skitarii and other medium equipment can't. Two, three or even four Neutron Lasers never hurts, you're a bit short on AT otherwise.

>>54234401
it's a safe guess ot assume that all the "Special" primarchs will se the light first, like Lion, Leman Russ (Sanguinius is kinda dead so maybe someone else) and the aligned Chaos primarchs.

Lion is probably the most obvious one because he's basically in the same condition as Rawbutt was before getting rez'd, although nobody knows that he's inside the Rock (only big E and maybe Cypher)

who knows, maybe Guilliman asked Emps why Cypher wanted to meet him and he told him about his bro

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>>54234468
Yeah, whoever the chaos chump that keeps getting chumped is.

>>54234457
Guilliman, Russ, the Khan and Vulkan would be the most logical ones to come back.

>>54234474
Wasn't it implied Guilliman knew who Cypher was and why he wanted to go into the Throneroom, hence the 'over my dead body' and chucking him in a (formerly) inescapable prison?

>>54234388
> They gave the javelin back it's HK-Rack
>Also gave my contemptor's back their CMLs
> Also gave my javelin Hard To Hit.
FUCKING YES. MY DEODERANT-stick TANK SHALL SEE THE TABLETOP SOON.

Only thing that bothers me is they forgot the Hunter Killers on the Leviathan.

>>54234500
No Dorn?

>>54234473
Fuck, that messes up my 1k list and puts me just over 14 pts.

Battalion Detachment:
Tech-Priest Dominus: 141pts
+ Macrostubber: 2pts
+ Eradication ray: 14pts

Tech-Priest Dominus: 139pts
+ Phosphor serpenta: 6pts
+ Volkite blaster: 8pts

Skitarii Vanguard: 139pts
+ Radium pistol: 1pts
+ Taser goad: 6pts
+ Arc rifle: 4pts
+ Plasma caliver x2: 28pts

Skitarii Vanguard: 127pts
+ Radium pistol: 1pts
+ Power sword: 4pts
+ Arc rifle x2: 8pts
+ Plasma caliver: 14pts

Skitarii Rangers: 182pts
+ Transuaric arquebus x3: 75pts
+ Omnispex: 7pts

Onager Dunecrawler: 143pts
+ Neutron laser: 45pts
+ Cognis heavy stubber: 8pts

Onager Dunecrawler: 143pts
+ Neutron laser: 45pts
+ Cognis heavy stubber: 8pts

Total: 1014pts

Anything I could chop out to keep it at point limit?

>>54234500
Lion makes more sense, he's in a coma. Russ and Khan will take shenanigans to get back. What is Vulkuns status anyway?

>>54234500
I think Corax might be a fitting one, actually.

>>54234500
And Lion too, but come on man. There is rumour flying around about the last fight of HH is being reconned. Surely GeeDubs isn't trying to bring someone back to life at all.

>>54234432
Consider the following: White Lion Elves.

>>54233930
Eh, not even going to bother. I'll give him a different head, paint him normally and then paint the dangling helmet in the colors of a Chapter I don't like, like he's carrying a trophy around.

In other words, my Thousand Chads Lieutenant is going to have a scratched-up Space Wolves helmet dangling there.

Would IG artillery and Mechanicus work for a fluffy Ordo Reducto? I just want a force of engineers who worship explosions and destruction

>>54234563
Drop that one Plasma Caliver on Skit Vanguard unit #2? Personally I don't like mixing wargear like that or giving sarges gear, but that's just me. Magnetizing one dude for two guns to keep the lists consistent isn't a huge deal.

>>54234340
>Hellhound staring down a bunch of stealth units

And it was at that moment the Tau knew they fucked up.
>Fwoosh!

>>54234521
well, Guilliman says that he doesn't know Cypher. but he knows where the sword he carries come from.
So I don't think it would be that unreasonable for Papa Smurf to have asked the Emperor about it (although he probably didn't)

>>54234585
Don't you mean white lion AELVES™?

>>54233481
Tau will fail when we figure out their chemical biostructure to fuck them up the ass with Phermone viruses.

>>54234614
Probably, it's almost certainly what I'm going to do once IA14 hits if they don't fuck up the rules for all the 30k Mech bois.

>>54234456
So for 6 more point than the double lascannon you get 2d3 d3 damage krak missles or 2d6 -1 ap bolter shots?
>forge world putting out bullshit models
>no pay to win

>>54234615
How easy is it to swap wargear on Onagers? I might just make it so that I can swap between a Neutron and a Phosphor on one of them.

>>54234615
Also considering making the Plascal sqaud full plascal and making the Arc rifle squad full Arc rifle. Wanted to leave the sarge with no extra wargear but the model itself isn't sculpted to allow that and muh WYSIWYG

>>54234644
You only get the one of those little disk mounts, much to my displeasure when I broke the attachment points off one of mine, but there are various videos showing how to magnetize the different options, and the Phosphor/Neutron is probably the simplest swap. Take a look.

>>54234456
This is actually pretty viable.

>>54234317
Is that wound change a buff or nerd for Moloch?

>>54234614
That would work so well I might still this idea.

>>54233816
>tac squads
>good
Ha

Also, don't mix weapons on devs. It's more effective to have one unit kitted to kill one thing, than have it just injure two things.

>>54234687
Really? I always went with no wargear on mine, there's a rifle for him for both Vanguard and Rangers.

>>54234521
Girlyman doesn't know Cypher but does recognise the sword it makes him "shudder" apparently. Doesn't specify why though and he doesn't claim the sword when the Fallen get arrested. Could just be that it's a reminder that his loyalist brothers are mortal and as far as he knows El'Jonson is dead. Of course if he thought it was the Lion's sword you'd have though he'd bring it up with Azreal when they were discussing the DA's organisational heterodoxy but it's never mentioned

>>54234708
The fuck? I seriously couldn't find any option like that so I just decided to slap on a melee weapon and a pistol.

Let me check, I feel like a huge idiot if this is true,

>>54234752
Well, if not correct I'm evidently some form of Wargaming Saint because there's 10 Rangers in front of me with 10 Galvanics, and another 10 Inquisition Acolytes with the spare galvanics from the other box.

>>54234340

Damn, I love your troopers Anon.
I'll carry this inspiration to paint more of my guardsmen.

>>54234782
The instruction manual doesn't seem to have such an option listed, looks like I might have to wait until I get my other Skitarii boxes to see if there actually is a way to do it.

>>54234823
Yeah, it's not in the instructions, but there's certainly a spare rifle that fits the Alpha on the sprues. Do you not keep your spare parts?

>>54234842
I do but I haven't gotten around to cutting mine out yet.

Looks like I might refit my current Vanguard Alpha with a standard Carbine then.

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I found this on a french forum

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>Slaanesh is squatted guys! Why don't you believe me~
BTFO

>>54234901
Yay a slaanesh demons start collecting set! Who are the other two?

no faq for xenos today?
guess the npcs will have to wait a while since half the book is fucked

>>54234705
I mean the limiting factor is that only 2 of each weapon comes in a Dev kit. Las and plasma cannons should be firing at similar targets anyway yes?

>>54234901

I just want a thousand sons start collecting.

I already have Ahriman, a box each of everthing in the range that isn't a named character, plus a dread, a Necrosphinx, a converted rhino and some parts lying around for a Heldrake conversion but I can't be assed collecting more without a discount.

>>54233779
>It's safer and a bit faster than the original method too.

It took 10.000 years to make a big batch of them...Does Cawl really spent 9,9k years in R&D before starting actual production or what ?

>>54234930
the left most is clearly Demiurgs

>>54234870
I am glad everyone will forget this game existed after half of year it came.

>>54234930
>Slaanesh
Fyreslayers (dwarves) and Beastclaw (ogres). The question is - will we see new mortal or just a box of old daemons models

>>54234842
Just to check, what's the part number on the sprue?

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>decide to go paint at local GW
>its closed with no notice on any social media or anything

>>54234966

>SC mounted ogres

What the hell would you even put in that box?

>>54234940
Not quite, Plasma cannons are for MEQs with multiple wounds and/or light vehicles, while you want to use your Lascannons for heavy armour and lodsawounds models

Plasma cannons and Missile launchers are the versatile heavy weapons marines have, while the rest is a bit more specialized (wish LSM had more autocannons)

Are any of the Chaos Daemons a begginer friendly army? Talking about the current edition.

>>54234936
I guess because the books for xenos and guard came out a week later, the FAQs will come out a week later. Forgeworld logic!

>>54234750
Could also be because it reminds him of Imperium secundus, something that is also elswhere mentioned on the book that Guilliman doesn't even want to think about

>>54234173
Haven't Iron Warriors always been able to field Basilisks?

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>>54233882
Thinner brushes?
Neger, you need thinner paints!

>>54235022

They can, but CSM haven't gotten an original artillery piece until now.

>>54235034
That pic always fucking gets me

>>54234901
>age of Sigmar
>also more Khorne

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>>54233340
Also, what's the cheapest way to get/make the hand bolter Pedro Kantor has? I'm buying green stuff and I'd love to make a lord using it.

>>54234967
Don't have 'em in front of me, not numbered, but I would imagine it's the rifle with the number that doesn't match any of the ones in the instructions, which won't be hard to find if you've already dealt out some special weapons so there's only three or so left on the sprue.

>>54235010

Not super much, no, but I guess khorne is probably the best solo in that it's at least straightforwards and has the most forge world support.

>>54234870
what is it?

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>>54235054
>Khorne
Not sure if troll or just retarded

>>54235034
That is pretty clearly donald duck painting a lotr uruk-hai...

Please tell me that this picture is canon.
If so, sauce please

>>54235063
What army would you recommend for a begginer that is not Space/Chaos marines or orks? Looking for some variety on the table with my friends.

>>54235055
>good goy way
Buy another Pedro.
>modeler way
Just fucking sculpt it.
>filthy pirate way
Recast the arm yourself.

>>54235010
Nurgle. Easy as fuck to paint and collect, idiot-proof to run. Just grab two start collecting boxes and some big daemon character and here you go. Also your army will be usable both in Age of Robotnik and Age of Sigmar

>>54235090

What do you friends play
Can't offer suggestions for variety otherwise

>>54234940
>Las and plasma cannons should be firing at similar targets anyway yes?
Plasma is for heavy infantry. To do similar amounts of damage as LCs they need to supercharge, which is a bit risky.

PC Devs next to a captain is pretty potent however, since it gets around dying on 1's.

>>54235010
Nurgle or Tzeentch.
They're the strongest, and thus most forgiving, right now.

>>54235055
don't grey knights have arm bolters like that?

just get some bits

>>54234984
>Happen to visit during the managers half hour lunch
>unexpected closures for untold amounts of time
>store is closed because the manager is on the toilet
One man stores were a fucking retarded idea.

>>54235055
Grey Knight Arms

>>54235055
You could offer somebody at the LGS that has plastic GK to trade one arm with wristmounted stormbolter for a blowy or something. The plastic GK kit has so many leftover bits somebody should have one spare.

>>54235087
>AoS
>calling anyone else retarded

>>54235093
>good goy way
Not feeling like wasting money on a single part dud
>modeler way
There's a nice 3D pic on GW site, i dont know if i can do that though. Im buying green stuff for the first time and i never sculpted before
>filthy pirate way
For just the gun it seems like too much work

>>54235155
I have 30-40 points left to add 1-2 more spectres, and the autarch should have a power sword

When building a World Eater or Emperor's Children army, it says that those units with the <Chaos Legion> with the respective legion and the <Mark of Chaos> keyword with either Khorne or Slaanesh. My question is this, since Neither of the cult units have the <Mark of Chaos> keyword, does that mean that they can all be used in a WE or EC army? Or am I a fluff-breaking, rules lawyering asshole?

>>54235164
Deleted cause forgot shit

Eldar faggotry at 1500 ( if Ynnari, replace Farseer with Yvraine)
Vanguard Detachment: +1 CP

HQ.
Autarch with swooping hawk wings, banshee mask, power sword and fusion pistol
Farseer with Guide, Doom // Yvraine with WotP and Ancestor's grace

Troops
5x Rangers

Elites
5x Wraithguard with D-scythes
5x Shadow Spectres (4+1 exarch) with prism rifles
5x Shadow Spectres (4+1 exarch) with prism rifles

Fast attack
5x Warp spiders with Exarch

Transports
2 Wave Serpents with twin shuricannon, shuricannon, spirit stones, star & vectored engines

Flyer
Hemlock wraithfigher with Conceal/reveal


The idea is to have a very fast army that can "redeploy" quickly on the battlefield (16+2d6, spiders) with resilient transports (at 13w, -1 damage taken, -1 to hit and 6+ FnP) that can dish our some firepower and deploy the spectres.

Most of the army would be shrouded (disembark the spectres, cast conceal on hemlock) so they'd be -1/-2 to be hit, and the WS would be -1. Spiders are also -1/-2 thanks to flicker jumps

The doubt I have is if I should ynnari or not. The spectres put out an impressive amount of S6 -3 ap D1 shots with the autarch dropping from the sky to re-roll 1s and can be transported in WS since they are jet pack and not jump pack infantry. Then I have 5+ 2 d-scythes to kill stuff and 5 rangers who can act as anti-DS bubblewrap in turn 1.
This army is only 5 drops so I should be going first most games (2 WS, spiders, reserve autarch, flyer).

Thoughts?

>>54235088
It is.
It's from a comic where he starts playing a tabletop wargame to teach his kids a lesson

It has been posted on /tg/ a few times andis pretty on point with the jokes. Especialy when it comes to the clasic GW redshirt experience

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>>54235187
>Or am I a fluff-breaking, rules lawyering asshole?
Yes, and you're also blind and/or illiterate at that

>>54234810
See
>>54233447

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>>54235088
>lotr
>those proportions

>>54235127
>>54235142
Where do I get bits? Do GW/GS stores have them?
>>54235143
Unfortunately my LGS is the most boring shit ever, only ultras and blood angels.

>>54235133

>One man stores were a fucking retarded idea
This. I'm friends with a store manager and when I visit, we always talk the shit.
But whenever someone walks up to the cash register or looks like they're struggling to find what they want, he has to focus on that while everyone else waits it out.
It's a complete nightmare on game/hobby night. The guy can't even put away the game boards because of all the people queing up to buy something before the place closes.

>>54233882
> red helmets.

Fucking whyyyy?

purple, white, yellow or gold helmets would have looked 1000 times better.

>>54235232

But Anon I am a Guardfag.

>>54235241
>only ultras and blood angels.

Holy shit, that sounds depressing. How have you not done a sudoku yet ?

>>54234870

Cool

>>54235093
>>54235145
Actually sculping it myself sounds th best, I'll replace the bird on the side with black sun.

>>54234347
Makes no sense, why would the Dark Angels be chasing a lady?

>>54234340
Part of the hull hanging over the board edge

>Triggererd

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Okay guys, I got my hands on around 100 cadian legs and torsos, but no rifles or heads.

Suggest ways of how I can put them to use.

>>54235241
Order them online. Check ebay or just google grey knoghts storm bolter bits.

>>54235058
It seems like the one meant for the Transuraniv Arquebus bearer fits the Alpha just nicely because of how it positions. Can I just confirm if that's the one because it seems like I cut out all my Carbines and can't find any others that fit on him in my spare parts box.

>>54235296
Nope, for a simple reason.
There's only three SM players out of like 9 people excluding me.
I have plenty of diverse enemies, 2x IG, Tyranids, Necrons, shop owner being my chaos bro, sororitas/admech.
I'd love some eldars here so I plan on getting Craftworlds starter tommorw when picking green stuff
>>54235341
I already decided to do a diffrent thing, but thanks for the help anyway. I may do that for diffrent bits in the future.

>>54235306
fashion tips?

>>54235333
Well, we haven't had a "dude burning collection of plastic men in anger about new edition" for 8th edition yet, which is quite disappointing. Guess 8th edition isn't shit enough ...

>>54235368
Seems about right, they have similar posture. I will admit, my first squad didn't have them matched right, but it seems to be the same one.

Maybe wait for your second box then relist the guns and see if the left-over one fits? Mine have mostly been used on one conversion or another, don't have any whole spare sprues left.

>>54235333
Send them to me. I literally have nothing but heads and arms and it saddens me I can't do anything with them.

>>54234456

Where is that FAQ from?

>>54235413
Yeah, I'm gonna wait for my second box to confirm if this is the case. I'll keep the gun aside for now.

>>54235428
Fresh from GW
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/09/forge-world-faq-july9gw-homepage-post-4/

>>54235217
But in the "general" part of the army list the zerkers has the <Chaos Legion> keyword instead of WE and no <Mark of Chaos> keyword. RAW it should be allowed. I'm only asking because I got some of the new plague marines and it would be neat to be able to use them without having to get a second detachment of Death Guard

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Been messing with nid colours, whaddya think?

Don't judge painting quality I carelessly slapped inks and glazes on a half dozen minis to see how it would turn out.

This question was asked by another anon two threads ago >>54230130 but I really gotta ask: I thought everything worked automatically on a 6.

>>54235269
I'm keeping white for the Captains, Champions, Honoured and Ancients.

Are there any alternative models for sister repentias? I need two more and don't really want to have to buy 9.

>>54235457

Why the fuck it's not on FW site?

Sup 40kgen,
I'm building a(kinda fluffy)Inquisition army.
So far I built the inquisitor, i'm working on some acolyte for ablative wounds and then I have a 9 men squad of DW veterans in a drop pod+watchmaster.
i also have a 10 man squad(including command)of tempestus.
I was thinking on adding 5 more tempestus to the squad.
And then? what wouyld be a good addition? I was thinking on maybe a tank for some artillery. Whats a good one?

>>54235463
>But in the "general" part of the army list the zerkers has the <Chaos Legion> keyword instead of WE and no <Mark of Chaos> keyword.
It does have a MoC, it's <KHORNE>
It's right between <CHAOS> and <HERETIC ASTARTES> where every other MoC is.

>>54235411
>>54235422
To answer differently; Does anyone know any manufacturers who makes arms and rifles that would fit these bodies?

>>54235465
looks great! I love it.

>>54235463
>and no <Mark of Chaos> keyword

That's because they already have the Khorne mark of chaos keyword you dense motherfucker. All cult units have their <Mark of Chaos> keyword already locked to their relevant chaos god.

So...vehicle options for chimeras like dozer blades, smoke and extra padding are just gone ?

>>54234640
2 min 12 max damage vs 2 min 18 max damage but the lascannons are much more likely to wound and avoid being saved if they hit... Hmmm.

>>54235528
yes, though they might return in the codices

>>54235524
Thanks anon

>>54235520
Anvil industries and Victoria miniatures are both pretty good good for arms a heads

>>54235506
An assassin.
I'm just starting my own inquisitorial force and I've got an old Termi-inquisitor and an Eversor.

>>54235473
if modifiers make your roll 7+ or worse, then yes, you cannot hit them in normal conditions.

an example would be a Vindicare in cover vs. BS 5+ units

that's why the DA Darkshrouds are so gud

>>54235538
Yeah maybe...I got a russ and a chimera last month as a gift, I guess they will sit in their boxes on the shelf a few months more

>>54233944
Pretty much this, and veterans Guardsmen can be much better than most Tau units skill wise in Fluff.

>>54235465

Too monotone.
Try something that blends well with the green carapace for the flesh. i.e. Bone or Black.

>>54235520
To ask differently, how much would you sell them for Anon?

>>54233859
A much little IG force

>>54235585
Why?

>>54235585
>OH NO I DON'T GET SMOKE AND OTHER SHIT THAT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHATSOEVER IN THE NEW EDITION BETTER THROW MY MODELS IN THE TRASH THEN

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Does anyone have a pic of the rules for the chaos fire raptor for 8th? Not buying a book for one model.

>>54235559
nice. How to dey fare on the battlegrounds in this ed? their stat looks solid.

>>54235589
The gun and claws etc aren't done. Just wanted to get a feel for the yellowishgreen for now. I agree tho

>>54234340
Your painted table and terrain make me erect, anon.

>>54233497
Well the Stalker Bolt Rifle looks kind of meh, i like the Auto Bolt Rifle it is possible that the pseudo scout unit will have them.

>>54235528
Smoke is in the profile as an ability and dozer blades just look rad. Might get rules back in traffic codexes but build them as such anyway.

>>54235651
mega

I've decided to turn my entire unfinished renegade guard force into redemptionists to provide my sisters some AT help.

TLDR: creating an ecclisiarchy crusade, any advice?

Also, wondering if I should sell my 200+ CSM and Scabiathrax...or hold onto them and just run a non-renegade-guard chaos group.

>>54235557
Viktoria looks great. Might even grab some female soldiers for diversity.

>>54235603
No sell.

>>54235688
This might be a little too on the nose but just chill out and rethink what you are doing before you make any drastic changes that will make you want to kill yourself later in your life.

>>54235613
>>54235650
I will wait for the IG codex before assembling / painting them

Also
>smoke
>doesn't matter

Get fucked xeno loving scum

>>54235529
The lascannons are not more likely to wound, it's for all purposes the same as S8 OTHER than it's ability to wound t8 on 3s and t9 on 4s.
The real advantage is the -3 ap and the d6 damage but then you've got multiple shots from the blast master and an alternate fire mode.

The blast master is basically superior missile launcher, it's better in almost every way.

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>>54235651
Here, you lazy bugger.

>>54235721
Don't forget ignores cover. :^)

How many tempestus scion command squads can I bring?

>>54235759
How big is your model case ?

>>54234173
>kids don't remember when Defilers had the option for Barrage on their battle cannons
>kids don't remember days of 4 HS IW with a basilisk, vindicator and two defilers

>>54235746
I did forget that, thank you.

Ignores cover is equivalent an extra point of ap vs units in cover so d3 shots s8 ap -3 D d3, d6 shots s4 ap -2 D1

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Okay faggots, here's the thing.
Local game store got two guillimans instead of one in triumvirate box so they sell them seperately now, I really like the model and have a lot of green stuff and time for converting.
How would you say converting him into some ultra chaos lord would look like?
I'm aware changing purity seals into something corrupted and all the imperial insyginia is shitton of work but I love working on hard stuff.
repostan from /wip/ cuz im scared it will take days to get an answer

What's the likelihood of Primaris Marines getting their own version of Tactical Squads in the new codex?

Plus, do you think the Auspex Marine in First Strike will have a special ability?

Corvus Blackstar has an Auspex Array:
Auspex Array: You can re-roll hit rolls of 1 for a model with an auspex array when targeting an enemy in the Shooting phase that cannot FLY.

>>54235711

The weapon stats won't change dude.
Only thing that's likely to change are the point values.

>>54235774
Seems like a badass project. He comes with a jump pack too, so you could make a jump lord out of him too

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gonna start dumping pics from my 3500 point game yesterday. Old buddy was in town and we haven't played in years (plus we both skipped 6th and 7th editions)

>>54235759
it's in the FAQ you can have one command squad for each officer of the same regiment, so one per prime

>>54235798
What the fuck is that deployment

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>>54235798
he was nids and didn't go with too many super bugs but a nice helping of 'fexes and a trygon

>>54235770

I don't remember Defilers having
Barrage back in the day.
Do you mean Ordnance? Because Ordnance made shit of vehicles in 4th.

>>54235798
That's the most autistic table I've ever seen

>>54235810
Should I point out there's not a single Trigon there?

>>54235706
I won't be doing it for a while. I have 3,000 points of sisters to strip/assemble/paint. I also have some regular cadians and ultramarines ill be using to augment them... but if FW doesn't give me better rules by the time I'm done with my current shit? I may do this.

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>>54235804
table quarters on a 8x4 table. 9" from center point.

My Deathskulls led by Big Mek Bugsnik

>>54235788
>Taccy Primaris Marines
THE NEED IS MIGHTY

>>54235798

>"It's raining bugs!"

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>>54235821
how so?

>>54235827
it was in reserve

>>54235829
I should have brought more boyz

>>54235794
>Jump pack
Really?

>>54234456
So, if I were to make a regular hellbrute in to a "sonic dreadnought" by giving blast masters, where would I get weapons that look like blast masters?

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>>54235465
See File name and answer!

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>>54235845
oh god was it ever.

>>54235848
stormboys hit a dakkafex and pile of gants early

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My little dudes (Black Templars intercessor squad). First time painting models.

Things I'm struggling with:
1) Good highlighting. Only one is highlighted and I think looks kind of shitty. I'm going to mix Fenrisian grey with Abbadon black to get a darker highlight and then thin the shit out of it.
2) Smooth white over black. I use chaos black base/primer spray. Then layers of celestra grey and ulthuan grey with some touchups with white scar to get my white, but it doesn't look as smooth as I'd like.

Any tips for painting rich, smooth white?

>>54235848
>the two most autistic armies in the game facing off
>with the most autistic color schemes and the most autistic terrain and deployment known to mankind

>>54235850
Yep.

>>54235788
Not sure about an Intercessor tactical squad, but I would be interested in seeing an auspex and other smaller bits of kit influencing the game

>>54235721
Not him, but the twin lascannon is infact superior to the blast master against all vehicles. The superior AP, strength and damage more than makes up for the less number of shots.
The blastmaster only out preforms the lascannons against models with <=T4 and <=5+, models with invuls like knights, and stuff like titans.
In the vast majority of cases, the dual lascannons are superior anti-armor for 6 points less

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>>54235873
multiple thin layers, white is hard

>>54235866
stormboys have a lot of initial success. I just plopped down 3500 points without thinking about detachments and ended up with 5 command points. I should have planned that better

>>54235866
what mission are you playing anon?

Or is it bugs vs fungi melee moshpit?

>>54235855
Spellcrow makes some kinda decent looking sonic weapons that might work.
http://www.spellcrow.com/sonic-guns-p-182.html

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>>54235881
neat, I haven't foggiest what you're on about.

>>54235894

>>54235861
Lego Ferris wheel

Chaos defilers:
Reaper autocannon or twin heavy bolter?

I'm torn cuz S7 really ain't amazing anymore and the bolter gets more shots.

>>54235886
I agree with you, the lascannons are better.

Source: I shoot like 8 blastmasters every turn and know how badly the underperform compared to lascannons

>>54235774
I turned mine into a Thousand Sons daemon prince (needed Voldus because I collect 3rd Brotherhood GK and Cypher because reasons) but I lost the pics I had of it.
What I did was scrape off all Imperial eagles and ultramarine icons, greenstuff scarabs and bird skulls over that, give him an empty hood instead of any of the head options, add a cape and a Thousand Sons backback.

>>54235800
Oh I see.

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>>54235903
I don't have the gorillion missions memorized yet but we rolled for it. We each had an objective in our own deployment zone worth 3 VP at the end of the game.

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>>54235932
Ork bikes are real expensive now! I also made the mistake of thinking hte flank would be safe. The trygon came up with 20 genestealers and over several turns ate the bikes.

Since the nerf to Seraphim hand flamers dropping them from pistolD6 to pistolD3, am I better off going for inferno pistols instead?
A pair of hand flamers is 12pts, inferno pistols are 24pts.

>>54235908
too short, the blast master has a very long gun barrel with a screaming face.

I could vut up the body but then I'd have to cut up the wire and the sights and I'd basically just be taking the heads off them and letting the rest of it go to waste.

>>54235788
>What's the likelihood of Primaris Marines getting their own version of Tactical Squads in the new codex?
Unlikely
>Plus, do you think the Auspex Marine in First Strike will have a special ability?
I really hope so. More rules for minor stuff like that, or bionics, or sights on guns or back banners, and all the other bits that currently do nothing, would be awesome.
It'd esspecially go well with narrative play, allowing you to customize your dudes down to the tiniest details. Hell, they could make it narrative play only if they're worried about balanced. It's not like they'd be hard to write the rules for:
Auspex: a model with an auspex may forefit it's shooting to allow it's squad to reroll ones to hit.
Sight: if a model's weapon has a sight, it may add 6” to the weapons range
Back banner: if a unit contains a back banner it may add one to it's Leadership when determining the results of the morale phase
Hire me GW.

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>>54235957
stormboys managed to kill off 72 gaunts and a fex before being dragged down.

That's all for now but it was a nice leisurely day of gaming in the basement. Nids won out in the end. I held my burnas back at the start to deal with deepstrikers and I think it hurt me in the end. I also needed more boys.

>>54235994
They also make "heavy" sonic weapons that look pretty much the same
http://www.spellcrow.com/mixed-sonic-guns-p-194.html