/CofD/ & /wodg/ Chronicles of Darkness and World of Darkness

>>54225379
You're fucking asking for larpers who never figured out the 90s ended with that question.

>>54225379

Is the OP art of the Bloods or Crypts?

>>54225379

I got held down and assraped as a kid, which is very similar to dealing with magefags

>>54225581
E D G Y

>>54225737
>E D G Y

>not enough katanas, trench coats and mirror shades

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>>54225905

>>54225581
What exactly is a "magefag" anyway? I've seen it used to label everything from people who admit mages are the strongest splat to total shitheads who make every discussion a powergaming contest.

>>54225394
That's kind of WoD's playerbase as a whole desu.

We're at the point where Geist not being in the Pirate Era is a possibility. How do we fix this? http://theonyxpath.com/dark-eras-poll/

>>54226078
Look man, I threw in my vote with the never going to win crowd on a matter of principle. I want tomb ships plying the seas with cultist crews, chasing down relics and sundries on the seas and under them.

I have this beautiful vision of Mummy: The Pirate which will never see fruition

>>54226078
Don't ask me, I just went and gave my vote to Mage.
Right now. From you providing the link.
Thanks, BTW.

I'd rather have a setting written for a game-line that is actually played.

>>54226078
Amazing isn't it? Out of the three, Changeling makes the least amount of sense.

>>54226078
>tfw nobody else wants wolves of the sea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9sdxhuCN6c

>>54226078
I voted for vampire just to see it shove its decaying undead dick into something else it has no business being a part of.

>>54226078
What I wanna know is, who's voting for Beast?

>>54226222
Trannies

>>54226222
>What I wanna know is, who's voting for Beast?

The depressives, transexuals and other diagnosable deviants and social malcontents on rpg.net.

>>54226222
I mean there is a whole beast splat with a usually impractical nautical theme, plus pirates are definitely something to be afraid of.

>>54226222
Probably people voting for the sake of stuff like the Kraken or Davy Jones

>>54225983
A magefag is anyone who likes mage, according to /tg/.

>>54226275

We're all fags in the Chronicles of Fagness

>>54226288
fag

Personally, I think all the choices don't really make sense for pirates.

>>54226290
double fag

>>54226078
Since you linked this, Mage and Geist have been shooting up. I think this thread is trying very hard to force Changeling out to make Mage/Geist pirate era.

I'm okay with this honestly, that sounds rad.

>>54226290
>>54226300
faggots

>>54226298
If you think hunter pirates doesn't make sense there is something diagnosably wrong with you.

>>54226315
fag-faggot

>>54226321
Actually I voted for hunter pirates. That is one of the few choices that does make sense.

>>54226309
I'd rather it be Geist or Mage than fucking Changeling

>>54226309
What's wrong with changeling pirates?

>>54226348
>What's wrong with changeling pirates?

>Gay pirates with PTSD

>>54226348
Nothing. They just don't deserve it nearly as much.

They're only getting votes because Changeling whores breed like rats.

>>54226348
It would finally make all those shitty water breathing kiths playable.

>>54226345
Yeah, I really don't like changeling despite a friend of mine being a huge fan. Geist would give us rad spooky ghost pirate shit, and mage could probably make the whole 'mysterious island full of weird shit' trope jump to the forefront.

I still really wanted Mummy but I know in any vote that game is going to never, ever win unless it comes hitched to another gameline like how we had the Mutapa Mage/Mummy chapter in DEC.

>>54226321
>>54226340
I'm not seeing it, how would hunter pirates work?

>>54226371
DEC?

>>54225983
Anyone who doesn't jerk off vampires, apparently.

Why does everyone on /tg/ hate Changeling so much?

It's easily OPPs best product thus far

>>54226361
Changeling whores? What do you mean?

>>54226405
Only because they didn't ruin it with 2e, has OPP even put out any actual Changeling content yet?

>>54226412
He means Changeling fans.

They're all whores.

>>54226146
To be fair, I think Changeling fans are just so starved for content they'll ask for literally anything if it means White Wolf throwing us a single fucking bone.

Changeling 2e never.

>>54226405
Okay now you're just asking for a fight.

>>54226405
Awakening is actually the best OPP product "thus far"

Educate yourself, you filthy plebeian

>>54226384
Dark Eras Companion

>>54226384
Dark Eras I think.

>>54226419
How did they ruin the other systems with 2e? The only thing that really got worse to me was paradox in mage, they nerfed it way too hard. Everything else seemed pretty good in general.

>>54226419
Changeling got a mention in Dark Eras, but at this rate we'll be getting Changeling 2e by the end of Trump's third term.

>>54225983
This: >>54226443

>>54226434
It's probably a troll.

>>54226405
Changeling is fantastic.
But:
1. 2e is worse than 1e by a significant margin, and we don't know how much of that bad shit is getting ditched with the old dev
2. It doesn't really fit as well as Geist, and Magefags gonna Mage

>>54226450
>2e? The only thing that really got worse to me was paradox in mage

Paradox didn't really change all that much. It was never that hampering, and certainly not as bad as Ascension.

What did change, however, was the abominable vulgar and convert magic distinctions that lead to paradox that were never really consistent with the fluff and themes of power corrupting.

>>54226491
Of course. An anon with an opinion counterpoint to your own -must- be a troll.

>>54226450
Changeling devs on changeling 2e is how. Books that change midstream just don't come out well most of the time.

>>54226495
>t doesn't really fit as well as Geist, and Magefags gonna Mage

The Golden Age of Piracy is actually referenced as a pivotal period in Mage history in the 2e corebook.

>>54226495
What was shitty in the Changeling 2e playtest? I only ever looked at the Kith docs, so I never got into the rules or fluff as much as I could have.

>>54226496
Unless I'm misreading your post, they got rid of vulgar vs covert in 2e, which would be a good thing by your description?

>>54226496
I really did hate Paradox in Ascension. It was a bit too stingy for my tastes.

>>54226078
>>54226222
The real question is who the fuck is voting for Deviant.

>>54226531
Deviant isn't even out yet, right?

>>54226523
>they got rid of vulgar vs covert in 2e, which would be a good thing by your description

Absolutely. It was a frustrating and inconsistent relic of Ascension and its "consensual reality" magic that did not apply in Awakening.

>>54226463
True

>>54226531
>>54226551
>who the fuck is voting for Devian

DaveB fans and those willing to sell their souls for Deviant spoilers.

>>54226552
So then what's the problem with 2e?

>>54226514
I admit, i don't know all that much about mage, but doesn't Changeling and Geist fit better?

>>54226525
Mostly familiar with CofD, how did it work in Ascension?

>>54226570
It's too powerful compared to others. I'm a balance fag and I hate it.

>>54226596
Mage 2e or 2e as a whole? Because if it's the latter, then that's a self-solving problem once everything gets updated.

>>54226570
>So then what's the problem with 2e?

You might be confusing me with another Anon. I believe Awakening 2e's magic system is an exponential improvement over 1e and more accurately reflects the game's themes and setting.

However, there are still some areas that need explanation or further detail (*cough* artifacts and imbued items *cough*). The promised Mage FAQ would hopefully have dealt with these issues. Sadly, according to Dave's comments, the FAQ is and shall remain vaporware.

>>54226609

Do you honestly believe splat balance will be a thing once they're all updated to 2e? Because it's just not.

>>54226639
What do you mean by balance? Total balance and equivalency? Because 1e certainly didn't have that either.

>>54226639

I'm curious if 2e Sin Eaters will be more like mages, mummies and demons or just street-level in power scale.

>>54226670
1e they were kind of ludicrous right? Like biblical vengeance powers and shit?

>>54226689
Geists were right behind Mages, Mummies & Demons in 1e. It will probably be similar in 2e.

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So, theoretically, if you were making a New World of Darkness inspired romance Visual Novel, with each spalt represented by a different girl, what personality traits would you give each girl?
Bonus points for visual elements and or pictures.

>>54226695
Sin-Eaters* not Geists, sorry

Damn that silly title.

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>>54226698

>>54226698
Mage is arrogant, impulsive, and narcissistic but smart as hell and genuinely cares about the people around them.

>>54226698
Vampire would be pretty easy. Pale smooth skin, long straight raven black hair, fancy crimson dress.
Werewolf you need to play into a more tomboy wild girl vibe, shredded punk clothes and so on
Mage you could either go shy nerd or 'OH-HOHOHO~' lady
Promethean gentle giant misunderstood loner would probably be best
Changeling you could do way to many things with, honestly that ones going to be the hardest
Demon would be sexy secret agent character
Giest I would imagine is the more sober and composed loner gal, always with the same half smile on her face
Don't know enough about mummy

>>54226670
>>54226689

Sin-Eaters were like right below the Mage/Mummy/Demon bracket. From the teases spoiled of it so far, it's not really easily to tell where they are on the power scale in 2e. I'm guessing maybe roughly around the same power level as they were in 1e. They were mentioned to remain a high ammo/rapid plasm slinging splat. Though powers are being tweaked, removed and replaced to cut away from the less thematic powers. It's possible they are stronger than the 1e versions now though since apparently Geists will be more mechanically relevant and feel present unlike the fluff after thought they were in 1e.

>>54226617
What's wrong with artifacts and imbued items?

>>54226714
>Chronicles of Waifus
C'mon, it could be fun!
>>54226739
That's a good start!

>>54226739
>and genuinely cares about the people around them

Silver Ladder get out. They should be Guardians of the Veil and obsessively protect the weird shit they're into that nobody else gives a shit about when they do find it because they can't read their nonsense glossolalia notes.

Can we please not drag disgusting weeb shit into these threads?

It never ends well.

>>54226795
Look if I have to chose between another who beats who discussing again or waifus I'll chose waifus any day of the week

>>54226763
Mummies are into consensual BDSM. Their whole splat represents slavery of the not sexy kind, so having a choice in the matter with someone who sees you as an equal instead of a master or slave would sound nice to them, I think.

>>54226763
Mummy would be a milf.

>>54226763
Those are all pretty good ideas, thanks!
>>54226795
Eh, it's better then power levels discussion.
..
I think.

>>54226698
I have asked myself this question. And I think God-Machine-Tan would be bald. Her hair burned away from all the number crunching she does. She doesn't wear a wig because she doesn't care about appearances, only getting the job done.

>>54226771
Changeling is damaged and untrusting, but also creative and in tune with things.

>>54226617
>according to Dave's comments, the FAQ is and shall remain vaporware.

Because people keep pestering him about it. He's doing it out of the kindness of his lizardly heart.

>>54226851
The God-Machine is an urban legend everyone blames everyone else for or thinks are creations of it.

In the end it turns out the God-Machine was inside you all alone. It was friendship, and also the social and magical order and phenomenon caused by their very existing.

And over it all the true God-Machine moves another Angel into position to prod Mummy-chan and Mage-chan together, ensuring that all goes according to plan.

>>54226884

I don't think DaveB is really punishing everyone for a couple of assehats on the OPP forums. I think it's just a convenient excuse for the delays caused by mystery bad shit that apparently has been plaguing his life recently.

Dave used to be communicative, but now he barely posts, and then it's often nasty and bitter.

I miss the nice and fun DaveB.

>>54226766
>What's wrong with artifacts and imbued items?

For one, they're basically useless given their Gnosis ratings, Reach and operation rules.

Beast Waifu just wants everyone to feel good about themselves, and that includes lewdness! Be a guest into her Lair, why don't you? She has a Family Dinner ready.

>>54227012
Ah shit I forgot beast
>>54226763
Beast I would have be generic succubus lady since that one family includes it. Or giant waifu but that's my bias talking

>>54226983
For Artifacts, buy one powerful spell, the reap the high Reach for its more useful lesser effects.

>>54227012
>>54227027

Beast is a tranny

>>54226763
Hunter Waifu is a Good Hearted Action Girl who is always fighting her Yandere side, what with all the spooky sluts trying to claim her husbando.

>>54227160
I was hoping the MC would be the hunter, but mostly thats my femdom lust talking

In the Dark Eras 2 Kickstarter video, the narrator mentions the DE2 is the fourth book in the series. I only know of two prior books, Dark Eras and Dark Eras Companion.

What is the fourth book in the series?

>>54227383

Tales from the Dark Eras, a fiction anthology given to DE backers as a surprise bonus.

>>54227411
>Tales from the Dark Eras

Really? Has Tales been shared?

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>>54226443
>Mage
>Best

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You dang 4chan trolls better stop voting on the DE2 poll >:[

>>54228275
It's the magefags. You know it is.

>>54226851
>>54226910
God Machine-tan is the principle of the highschool the visual novel takes place in, and is trying to keep the students in line and keep you from lewding Demon-chan.

>>54228275
Get wrecked wyrd, I get to share my opinion, however much you may dislike it.

>>54229017
I think it was the other guy

>>54228275
>>54228320
What's going on? Somebody is messing with the pirate poll? Where Changeling and Geist are still ahead of Mage?

>>54229045
The OPP forums are just mad people disagree with them and are blaming it on bots.

>>54229045
OPP forums getting triggered that le evil nazi website is attacking their game poll.

>>54229121
What did they want to win?

>>54226250
Trannies gravitate to Prometheans. Or at least that's what the writers wanted.

Is there really no way to find out, which votes might be duplicated?

>>54229476
I doubt anyone is fudging votes. They just hate that the splats they like are hated by normal people.

>>54227153

That was Promethean.

Beast is too, but a tumblr transtrender tween.

>>54229121
Changeling was botted up, no question about it. it surged by hundreds of votes in under 5 minutes.

>>54229767
I am the anon who said that he checked the poll after 3 hours and saw these results, but it happened under 5 minutes? If so, than holy shit!

>>54229767
It would annoy me greatly if Changeling gets this

But you know they will

>>54229816
>tfw no ghost-pirates vs wizard-pirates

>>54229767
But was it botted up by us?

>>54229842
Probably a mixture of us and 'them'

>>54225379

>most WoD like situation you've been irl?

Probably some kind of high level drug or arms deal i stumbled upon. I was taking a walk at night and saw two REALLY expensive cars standing there without drivers but still running. The drivers were in a nearby house entrance bent over a suitcase. A few other goons instantly started coming my way so i did the old 180 and took another way.

>>54229991
Probably not terribly WoD, but I go on walks at night as well, and more than once I've had some spooky experiences. It's a rural neighborhood, so the streets tend to have thickets of woods lining them. The two most memorable ones were once I heard something clambering through the woods by the street, snapping branches and crunching leaves and what not, so I picked up the pace, and it did too. That escalated into me running back to my house, and it followed me the whole way, crunching and snapping, until I turned onto my street. The second time was more recent, just a few weeks ago. I was walking down a different street down by a different patch of woods, and I heard something in the woods again. It was like really labored breathing, but it wasn't wheezing or anything. It was like gravelly, grating panting, really rough, like closer to the sound of two rocks scraping together than actual breathing, but it was in the rhythm of breathing. I just walked backwards away from the woods until I was off the street.

I don't jump to /x/ conclusions, but I still have no clue what they could have been. The only animals running loose around here are deer, and they don't chase people or have rock lungs.

>>54229885
My vote goes to 'someone.'

I don't know who, but if it bumps off Geist from a pirates setting, it's just fucking ridiculous. Even Beast has a more solid ground for a pirate setting than Changeling.

>Mage overtook Geist AND Changeling
I'm kind of disappointed. Mage is my favorite splat, but honestly I wanted Geist to get it the most.

I'm ok with either changeling or geist in the pirate setting but not mage and I say that as a hardcore mage fag/supremacist. Ideally we could get both Changeling & Geist in some form of crossover setting.

It would be a really boring/limiting setting for awakening.

>>54230459
Sorry no. Mage has specific lore set around piracy. Geist has thematic reasons on its side.

Changeling has nothing.

>>54230474
What does Mage have to do with pirates outside of the Dead Wrens?

>>54230484
Seers n' shit

>>54230484
Mage 2E Core, page 48: "Théarchs have even been known to make common cause with the Seers, when something threatens the Awakened as a people. They did so during the First Crusade’s Siege of Jerusalem, to preserve their power over the Sleepers of the Holy Land and stave off mutual annihilation by the soul-stealing demon Desiderus. So again, when Atlantean symbolism failed in a Triangle centered on the Pirate Republic of Nassau, caused by a democracy-devoted Nameless Order seizing power."

Show me something like this for Changeling.

>>54230641
>Show me something like this for Changeling.
I wasn't challenging, I just wanted to know.

>>54225379
>most WoD like situation you've been irl?

I am an old fart here, and in New England back in the 70's, a lot of the buildings involved in the textile industry that died out in the decades earlier still stood, abandoned and empty. Biiig buildings, some, complexes of buildings, set against a little river off in the middle of nowhere, outside of town, fenced off, but that was about it.

We camped down river from an old abandoned textile plant. It was a long camp-out/hunting/fishing trip, and we kind of got distracted - though it was never on our plans for that trip (we had talked about it in passing a few times before though), on the second night, we decided to visit the plant. We were restless and miserable because it was in the in the 90's and brutally humid, even at 2AM, with those black skies that taunt you, make you think rain is coming, but only give you heat lightning and misery, sweltering and sticky.

The mill itself was pretty much a large, imposing L shaped brick building, about four stories tall, with windows only at about the third to fourth story. Entrance was quite easy, as around river side was a huge loading door leading into the heart of the building, revealing the first floor, about two stories tall, stretching into the darkness and turning around the bend in the L.

Shit, girl's here, gotta go - fuck.. well anyway, we fucking stayed there in the dark area around the bend, until my buddy felt something nosing in his pocket - he smacks, thinking it was another buddy trying to take his lighter, and he ends up hitting something that squeaks. Something big... it was a fucking rat. but it was bigger than a fucking guinea pig, bigger than a chinchilla - it kind of flipped, trying to get traction on his windbreaker as it just tried to bold, we were all standing, trying to figure out wtf it was... and get our flashlights out (we had just a candle going at the time). Flashlights on, a bunch more were fleeing. We fled too.

>>54230764
Sorry I had to rush it and can't do a longer write up atm, but I just wanted to add that now, 40 years later, I know that the area somehow was infested with nutria. We killed a bunch of them with the 22's and 12 gauges we had brought up for hunting (turkeys) and later would take our M1 Garands up there to try and wipe them out because if you saw a rat that size in 1975 you would want to put 30-06 through it too.

>>54229816

Changeling and Geist are so close right now I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to do a 3-splat era. Unless it's proved changeling was botted.

>>54230650
No problem, I just wanted to stress the difference in the importance of the era for the respective splats.

So I see that they released a Hunter expansion about Beasts, and I need to know how terrible it was.

Anyone read it?

>>54231048
Did they? I seem to remember there being one amazing little tidbit along the lines of "Hunters don't bother with Beasts, and believe that Heroes should focus their efforts on the /real/ monsters". So I wonder what Hunters would have to do with Beasts.

>>54231098
It's apparently called "Tooth and nail".

>>54231098
>>54231048
Oh man, what is it called? I gotta see this. Probably something to the effect of "Only the worst, most debased hunters would consider hunting a Beast, and the only Beasts anyone considers hunting are those who have become corrupt and twisted and wrong and don't think like good beasts who follow the proper tumblerina ways."

>>54231131
More that hunters by and large see beasts as normal humans who do weird and shitty stuff but are at best slashers lite. Not at all terrible like werewolves or other real monsters

It basically is denying their otherkin-ism which is pretty great. The tone changes of course if a Beast forcibly gets on their radar or tries to teach lessons to them or people they know of.

>>54226460
does this mean we will get a Dark Era about the Trump presidency?

If a vampire (especially oWoD) gets staked with their eyes open, can they still see and understand what happens? If someone stakes you, can you watch in horror as they put you outside to await the dawn?

I have an ending to my chronicle planned and I need to know because reasons

>>54231392
I'm pretty sure that's the case, but even if it isn't you can still make it so.

>>54231275
That's not how I saw it. it looked pretty bad - I mean from the start, it was really going all out trying to focus as much of the bad it could on those horrible bully heroes. And of course the opening fiction was yet more Christians getting stereotyped as fanatical lunatics with continued jabs later because they don't embrace the gay either. So the tumblr shit is thick as pea soup. And the hunter groups all seem to behave very differently from how one would expect textbook hunters to treat Beasts, which even further raises the bullshit levels (one outright accepts them as part of the way things are supposed to be, with Heroes being the problem even). It's a pretty shitty supplement, that shows that the full gamut of criticisms about Beast are pretty accurate and that these problems will plague anything Beasts touch from hereon out alas. God help us when Deviant arrives.

Who would win, a combat ready mage or an antediluvian?

My money is on the mage, vampires are weak

>>54231430

>Deviant will be one long trans metaphor

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>>54231887
Dude, Promethean already is.

>>54231887
Let's hope Deviant being developed by Dave will help it turn out as something not completely cringeworthy.

>>54225414
Neither, it's a movie called "The Warriors" - set in a period where the city of NYC was almost bankrupt, and the cops had almost red line levels of funding, it depicted a street gang fighting to return to safe territory, at night, across hostile turf populated with colourful and vibrant themed street gangs. The film enjoyed a cult status in NYC and actually inspired the street gangs of the period to dress flamboyantly, yet co-ordinated. The man in the center is a Warrior, the baseballer was a ...Fury? and the girl is a Lizzy. The film is a go to for WoD inspiration.

>>54226143
>yfw Changeling wins

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PLS UPLOAD BUILDING A LEGEND PDF

>>54232315
Spread Beast AIDS!

>>54232168
Much like how Beast sucked despite a stable of good authors, the basic ideas and direction given to the dev and his team from on high need to not be flawed from the get go. I feel like there could be some cool dramatic meat for terrible monsters made by occult or scientific accident that can touch on real world stuff but not be cringeworthy like Beast. Lets see if that is the way things go. We want another Demon here

Is Homosexuality a legit derangement for a Malkavian embraced during the Victorian Era to have?

>>54232772
its legit even today.

>>54232772
Nope. But you can make your homosexuality a fetish to the point od sexual depravity.

If homosex is unnatural, then why can guys feel good when they put stuff up their butt? I've always wondered that.

>>54232168
I'm still not even sure what Deviant is about.

How would you make Beast not shit while retaining/emphasizing the few good ideas it had?

>>54233172
Embracing the horror and monstrous side. Make the character's horror their actual self and their human self a public shell rather than a weird psuedo-symbiosis. Lairs are cool, but I'd like to be able scare people out in the real world more than just brief or partial changing.

Is 4chan really trolling the poll, /wodg?

>>54231098
>>54231131
>>54231275
That doesn't even make any sense. If so, why would exist a whole Hunter mini-organization focused on wolf-blooded that refuse their parent's blood and want to get rid of it?

The same aim of that mini-organization could be easily applied on how Hunters deals with Beasts.

>>54233541
Because obviously, Heroes are the true threat and Beasts kill less people than crocodiles. Are there any compacts that deal with crocodile problems? :^)

>>54233526
Nah. It's just OPP forum paranoia.

>>54231131
Is this really the narrative of beast?

>>54233541
The writers try very hard to paint Beasts as harmless and innocent unless it's a Beast that is explicitly corrupted.

>>54233734
Dont all supers except demons autolove beasts too or some shit? That needs to be dropped.

>>54233832
Not auto-love so much as have a reason to like and hang around with. Like Beasts are the ultimate predators so vampires like them, they know what it's like to walk the line between monster and human so werewolves like them, and apparently they also have tons of secret knowledge or something so Mages like them. I don't recall them exactly, but a lot of the given examples for Beast views on other splats basically boil down to "You are like little baby, watch this." Except for the Demon ones, who they were pretty hostile to. I remember one anon said it was because Demons didn't buy into their bullshit, since they themselves are the ultimate bullshitters.

>>54233832
In general beast isn't fucked from the ground up, it's good ideas with a paint layer of horrible ideas. It's not that hard to make beast good by ignoring the retarded shit and using the rest.

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>>54228275
Tbqh the poll is really easily mess-able.
And I have so to say "optimized" quite a few polls in my time.
No defence against automation at all, only countermeasure against multiple voting is client side (cookie); considering they use off-site polling solution, they might not even be able to filter votes from same IP address after the poll ends.

>>54230229
>but I still have no clue what they could have been
pic related

>>54230811
I hope you weren't killing them just for fun. Nutria's fur is quite valuable and meat rather tasty.

>>54230641
>Show me something like this for Changeling.
Is that supposed to be reminder that Changeling 2e isn't out yet?

>>54234165
>Is that supposed to be reminder that Changeling 2e isn't out yet?

More like a reminder that changeling, 1E and what we know about 2E, doesn't have any specific history with Nassau or pirates in general.

>>54234109
I actually think it's the other way around. A core of horrible ideas with some good ideas here and there. Even at a conceptual level, I feel that Beast does a poor job of providing a distinct, new splat. If it were me, I would probably have it be monsters that became human-like than humans becoming soul-buddies with a monster.

>>54234165
>Skinwalkers
Are you being serious or are you just memeing me?

Speaking of beast, does anyone have a Conquering Heroes pdf?

>>54234217
I just did quick search of Changeling 1e for word "pirate" and found six occurrences, so that obviously beats your singleton.

>>54234254
You'll never know.

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>>54234380
>You'll never know.

>>54233734
That's why I can't identify with Beast. It screams to much "LGBTTQIA+ and general minorities rejection from society", but they still fucking mess with other's people life because they need to do that.
They need to be the monster. They need to terrify. It doesn't matter if you're a black, wheelchaired, transexual and vegan. You are still a Beast who torment others to perpetuate your existance.
And I can't identify myself with that. Heroes are right in hunting down Beast, but writers transformed then on internet raging facebook users so no player would enjoy them.

If I would create a Beast character, I would simply create a gay man who accepts his inner dark side, but wouldn't go around as a savage because he has fucking brains. I also would use the "Mary Sue" way writers painted Beast so I could be those "psychologists of supernatural beings" to exploit more knowledge, plothooks and character devolopment. And that's it.

Sometimes I see Beast as a whole "you can go fucking back to the closet because society hates you and you can't expose yourself" story.

>>54234049
Only Jean Grey can reach higher levels of Mary Sue than Beast.

>>54234380
Do those occurences deal with this concrete era and topic? Is there any historical event mentioned dealing with golden age of piracy with the same significance as is the case with Mage?

And really, lack of 2E for changeling doesn't make the Mage Nassau conflict invalid. As far as I know, Changeling still doesn't have any such central conflict, while mage does.

>Alternates requiem
>Clanless vampire society
>All vampires have the same "clan" disciplines. Vigor, Resilience and Celerity
>Get a free dot for physical Attributes

Would that make vampires more violent and brutal?

>>54234574
It would also make the entire gameline several orders of magnitude more retarded. I suggest you kill yourself.

New Darker Days Radio episode is available. http://podcast.darker-days.org/e/81-fae-covenant/

>>54234574

Talking about Alternates Requiem:

Does anyone used the Snow-White Tale origin for Vampires?

Now Changeling is the first, with Mage two votes behind and Geist 18 votes behind Mage. If this continues, the splat not accepted will be based randomly on at what hour the poll closes.

Also, is it just me, or do these changes happen in roughly daily cycles? It's almost as if the same people vote for their splats in their free time each day.

>>54225379

Trove has been updated btw, I need you to update your link in the pastebin if you could.

snip <d0t>
li

/qjFCZ

Thanks!

>>54234685

I assume the poll closes when they hit the stretch goal, and they haven't even funded yet, so it'll be a while.

>>54234291

It's in my Trove. It's in the pastebin, however, the key has been updated and i put the new link below.

Do you happen to have Building a Legend?

>>54226202

I was going to say apparently you have never heard of the Lasombra. Then I remembered we were talking about VtR, the vampire game where having fun is forbidden.

>>54234751
How do I use your link? And no, sorry.

>>54226259
>Probably people voting for the sake of stuff like the Kraken or Davy Jones

So, the kind of lowbrow knuckle-dragging mouthbreathers that think the Pirates of the Caribbean movie series is the absolute zenith of piratical fiction. Got it.

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>>54231392
If a vampire (especially oWoD) gets staked with their eyes open, can they still see and understand what happens? If someone stakes you, can you watch in horror as they put you outside to await the dawn?

According to V20 Core Rulebook:

"Stake Through Heart: A vampire can indeed be incapacitated by the classic wooden stake of legend. However, the legends err on one point: A Kindred impaled through the heart with a wooden stake is not destroyed, but merely paralyzed until the stake is removed. Maneuvers like tackle and sweep are intended to knock an opponent down. However, an especially powerful attack of any kind may send the target to the ground. Such instances are best left to the Storyteller’s discretion, and should occur only when appropriately cinematic or suitable to the story. To stake a vampire, an attacker must target the heart (difficulty 9). If the attack succeeds and inflicts at least three health levels of damage, the target is immobilized. An immobilized victim is conscious (and may use perception powers, such as those in the Auspex Discipline), but may not move or spend blood points."

>>54232772
oh yesssssssssssssssssssssss

actual answer: Sexual orientation shift. Mortal you're straight but your derangement makes you only able to get it up from homo. Basically it's not your orientation, but a new one superimposed, which plays head games with you in situations you would have been completely ok with before.

>>54234732
What?

>>54234893

web browser. It's one address

snip li/qjFCZ

put the dot where the space is.

Has anyone here played Mortis Ghost's "OFF"? I made a character sheet for the Batter as a Horror and would like some feedback on it.

>>54235257

My mega trove (Humble Library) is in the pastebin as a source for oWoD and CofD pdfs. (2nd link for the CofD sources). I have changed the key to the mega address so whoever updates this pastebin, if you can update your address:

you can use this address instead:

mega <d0t> nzee

/#F!ZQlH0YAY!9LLu3G2cgkVasNqiHkFJ7A

>>54231322
>does this mean we will get a Dark Era about the Trump presidency?

Making The West Great Again
(2016-present)

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>>54234165
>Nutria's fur is quite valuable and meat rather tasty.

So are you saying that nutrias are nutritious?

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>>54235429

Trump is obviously a Tetrarch, but then again, we already knew the Seers won.

Make Oppression Great Again!

Mage is looking good for the Golden Age of Piracy poll. However, it would be a shame if it had to share the era with Changelings instead of Sin Eaters.

>>54231887

No, it fucking well will not, and "these people have selfhood so broken they gain superpowers at the cost of losing the ability to relate to other humans; *do not Queercode them*, as that's really goddamn offensive" is right there in our instructions to Deviant writers.

They *are* kinda metaphor for in-life disabilities (say, a vet who lost his legs to a landmine) or chronic illnesses, because part of Deviant's thing is your body breaking down on you and being really, really pissed off about it.

>>54235852

I am excited about this and cannot wait for the kickstarter actually. Are there going to be any developer blogs?

>>54235852

When you first started describing Deviant, I also got a serious violent or sexual crime victim metaphor vibe.

How do you rate the idea of a Superheroes Entitlement for Changelings (sorta like a mini Justice League) on a scale of 1 to 10?

>>54235852

How long do you think it will be between Dark Eras 2, with its Deviant chapter, and the actual release of the Deviant core book?

>>54235938
Depends on how cool the Entitlement's blessings are. You've got pretty cool things like The Parliament of Victors and The Lost Pantheon to compete against for making a cool flashy Entitlement like that.

>>54235938
Wait for aberrant 2e/10

>>54235852
>No, it fucking well will not, and "these people have selfhood so broken they gain superpowers at the cost of losing the ability to relate to other humans; *do not Queercode them*, as that's really goddamn offensive" is right there in our instructions to Deviant writers.

Oh thank fuck. After Beast I'd lost a bit of faith in OPP to be self-aware enough to avoid this kind of thing.

>>54235976
Good point. I'm thinking part of the Blessing is an unique Hedgespun Superhero Costume and a special Hollow as headquarters. Maybe also bonuses for fighting crime and inspiring people? It would probably be a Summer + Spring Entitlement.

>>54236002
I see what you mean, but this is not the point of question.

>>54235852
that is great news to hear

New to WoD got the books for CofD
Question
Is playing a hunter supposed to make you feel worthless?
Because i feel like if you play hunter you should just never read any of the other books and pretend you are really doing somthing

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>>54235852

>DaveB not being MattMc

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>>54235852

>>54235852
>tfw this means Emperor of Sand is cofd relevant

The whole album hits Deviant themes and also has mages and astral travel. The real crossover that DE2 needed

>>54236147
I've never played hunter, but why would you feel that way? The other splats more often than not DESERVE to be hunted. Obviously it isn't black and white, but there's a legitimate need for hunting.

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Feedback requested on this write up for pic related.

https://pastebin.com/VhHNFegq

>>54235852

So, Deviant's in first drafts then, or is this just for the bible?

>>54236587
That's quite a language for The Mask, it this from some crossover with considerably edgier character?

>>54236616
You're right on the money. It's from a crossover with DC's Lobo, but the original comic book version of the Mask was very much edgy too.

>really want Hunters and Changelings to win the polls because it makes the most sense, pirates and admirals and things like Krakens and mermaids, fuck yeah
>maybe even some cool human merits, my modern day hunter is a sailor, so he could maybe get more love
>fag mage shitters ruin yet another thing

Autistic screeching is the only sound I can make that expresses my rage

>>54235712
I guess.

>>54226078
Fixed. My hand slipped a bit though, hopefully it was not too obvous.

>>54235771
Didn't Changelings already get a Dark Era for Swashbuckling?

>>54236695
Where are the polls?

>>54236147
The gamelines aren't supposed to be connected (unless the ST says so). But you could easily do nihilistic horror with hunter.

>>54231322
Knowing the shitheads at OPP, I wouldn't be surprised.

>>54235312
Holy shit that is a lot of stuff. Thanks man.

>>54236695
Changeling and Geist are winning now.

>>54236713
>Looks at the poll.

Jesus... Now there really isn't any doubt.

>>54236094
The final draft of beast fixed a lot of the shit wrong with their kickstarter version, and the later books polished it up even better. Beast is actually pretty good now.

>>54236919
While I don't hate Beast, it still has a lot of baggage of kickstarter's version and quite a bit of missed opportunity to push the good things further

>>54235771
I'm as much mage supremacist as they get, but I don't want any one-legged, one-eyed mage-pirates whose familiar is parrot and their High speech consists of single word - "Arr".

>>54236546
If he's like me, the downside to hunter is that even if you're Batman levels of investigation, combat and planning, your average werewolf will rape you. And if the average rapes you, the good goddamn luck making any significant progress or change to the world, which sucks, since hunter appealed to me for the Hellsing/Castlevania approach of only a human was truly able to end a monster

>>54237027
Yeah but the newer books are doing a pretty good job of getting at a lot of that missed opportunity.

>>54236695
Changeling deserves it the least, you wretched buttmonkey.

>>54237182
Less than Promethean?

>>54236827
>The gamelines aren't supposed to be connected

Every book since First Edition has a sidebar on what that splat thinks about other splats.
They are connected as fuck.

>>54237206
>who deserves epic piracy

Geist > Mage >>> Changeling

>>54237218

Not every book

>>54237228
>Changeling got 30 votes in a few minutes, Geist 150, Mage 0.

Seems legit.

The Kickstarter poll is fucked-up. There's no doubt significant spamming and repeat votes.

OPP has to do something before it hits the 55K stretch goal, or a lot of Kickstarter contributors and future purchasers and fans will rightfully feel very cheated and abused.

If I was OPP, I would only allow people who pledged at any level to vote, and the vote would be connected to their backer number. While people could still pledge, vote and back-out, it would still be much harder to spam and OPP could seek to block people from Kickstarter if they abused the system.

>>54237355
You're suggesting they build a system that doesn't exist with their team of computer programmers that they clearly have? Do you have any idea how much money it would cost? If it were cheap and easy it would have been done by now.

As long as Geist wins I'm happy

>>54237516

As a practical matter, OPP should just abandon the poll. The honor system obviously doesn't work, and management deciding about which eras/splats to include if far more fair than a rigged system.

>>54237567

It was fine for the first Dark Eras, it'll be fine now. The only actual bullshit thing that happened last time was Book of Judges Hunter not winning thanks to some confusion about when they called the poll.

It's not like the poll is ending any time soon, either.

>>54237630
>It's not like the poll is ending any time soon, either.

There's more than enough time for everyone to cheat?

>>54237667
If you don't cheat you didn't really want it.

>>54237667

It's not cheating, it's just being a True Fan.

Either way, KS comments say they're aware and working on it, so I'm sure it'll all work out.

>>54237757
>it's just being a True Fan

The biggest autist with a VPN wins. That's so OPP.

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>>54237218
>Every book since First Edition has a sidebar on what that splat thinks about other splats

I don't believe Mage has such a sidebar.

Swole Jawa don't care about no lesser supernaturals.

>>54237757
>It's not cheating, it's just being a True Fan.

>Cheater Supremacy

>>54233156

It feels good too for girls that don't cry like little bitches over nothing. Nothing to do with sexual orientation.

>>54237567
They should just disregard it, honestly. I'm fine so long as Geist wins, but it's clear that hijinks have happened and that integrity has been compromised.

>>54237838
>The biggest autist with a VPN wins.
No VPN necessary, you noob.

>>54237870
That terrible picture again. Top left guy seems to be suffering from serious case of constipation.

>>54237870
>>54238051

Swole Jawa and the rest of his cabal have no time for the like of vampires, werewolves, changelings and other supernaturals various and sundry.

The must >Kill The Batman<

>>54237870
Why is there a random gun on the table? It's not even in front of anybody. Are they just using it to hold down that corner of the map? Also just realized that Swole Jawa is not only topless, but pantless as well.

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>>54238134
>Also just realized that Swole Jawa is not only topless, but pantless as well.

That sounds *fabulous*.

>>54238187
Why is it all gay dudes? Buff, gay dudes. This art is pretty exclusionary, not diverse at all.

So I know we still have a lot of time until the KS is over, but considering how it hasn't been funded yet... Do ya think it'll be the first real disappointment of a KS for OPP? Or a possibility that it won't even succeed ?

>>54238274
Its less than a week old and its not a core book. It not being funded yet isn't a sign of anything.

>>54238271
>Why is it all gay dudes?

because heteronormativity and cisgenderism is a construct of the Lie

>>54238271
>Why is it all gay dudes? Buff, gay dudes. This art is pretty exclusionary, not diverse at all.

It's very diverse; there's a black buff gay dude in the upper left corner, and most of the guys also suffer from a disability, they are clearly glow-challenged.

>TFW Seers are more diverse than Free Council
>>54235728

>Islamic Golden Age
>750 CE to Present

What. I'm not counting the accidental BCE on the banner, either, I just...what.

>>54238341
Excuse me sir, those fine gentlemen are glow-capable. Don't be an ableist.

>>54235728

Where's the vampire stripper?

>>54238363
Transfigured into a table.

>>54238363
>Where's the vampire stripper?

The Seers always save something for the afterparty.

>>54237870
>I don't believe Mage has such a sidebar.

Go on the watchtower section and you will see the opinion of each Path on other Paths and Splats (in that case, Vamp and Wolf since on that time they were the only splat released)

So its Awakening a dead line yet? I remember reading somewhere that the main developer was put to work in s game about mutants or something

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>>54235852
>Queercode
dafuq does this minitrue horseshit even mean?

>>54238749

Mage 1e or 2e?

Except for some sarcastic comments about mage supremacy, DaveB has been pretty intent on assiduously avoiding even the barest hint of anything that may be construed as referencing the possibility of crossover.

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>>54231392
>If a vampire (especially oWoD) gets staked with their eyes open, can they still see and understand what happens? If someone stakes you, can you watch in horror as they put you outside to await the dawn?

Yup. A staked vampire would be totally conscious, at least until their bodies go into torpor from a lack of blood or a severe enough beating.

Of course, remember that staking a vampire only immoblizes their *body*. Any disciplines (or even pre-prepared thaumaturgical rituals) that doesn't require the vampire to move their body in any way (and doesn't spend blood) can still be used.

Dominate, Animalism and Auspex are good examples.

A vampire with 5+ Dominate could theoretically hitch a ride in a mortal's body through Possession for as long as the mortal's body held out (and if they don't mind becoming a ghoul, that mortal might last a long time indeed)... though, they have to successfully roll Courage (8) at every new sunrise or get thrown out of the mortal's body and die an instant spiritual death (also, embracing a possessed mortal results in the possessed vampire dying if the vampire doesn't have their original body to return to).

You could potentially make a plotline that a staked big-bad-vampire who was left out for the sunrise by the beach have a human come waltzing along, maybe out for a morning jog or something... boom, antagonist returns later down the road, with the vamp possessing the mortal for maybe weeks or months (or years, but that'd be REALLY stretching SoD in my opinion).

>>54238805
I am talking about First edition all this time.

So does anyone have an idea why Werewolf and Prommie have fucking nothing for them on the "current projects" part of OPP? Like are all the writers for them doing other things? Like Changeling at least has a supplement planned, vampire has 2 and so does Mage.

>>54238798

>http://theroguefeminist.tumblr.com/post/56658099133/queer-codedqueer-coding

>TFW inability to understand much of OPP/WW books and author comments without a Radical Left to English dictionary

>Will Deviant go all in and have a now seemingly requisite pronoun sidebar or will DaveB resist?

>>54238805
>ctrl+f vampire in 2e
>25 hits
>several of which detail how things would work in crossover
No opinion pieces though.

>>54238849
>vampire has 2

What else besides Half-Damned?

>>54238849
Because soon OPP will be kill and it won't matter what's on thir docket.

>>54238920
Some mix of story teller and players guide

Guide to the Night: Specific guidelines for getting the most out of Vampire: The Requiem 2nd Edition for both players and Storytellers. Includes Three Tier advice for setting your Chronicle and additional ways to expand your characters and Chronicles. 212 pages. PDF/PoD.

>>54238935
Why do you say that?

>>54238874
>Queercode

Holy shit. This is fucking appalling and offensive, and I'm a fucking big ol' bear faggot in real life. Geezus.

>>54238874
>that fucking article
These niggas need to read more and stop looking for hidden meanings in kids movies and Hitchcock films.

>>54238874
I don't even understand. What traits are commonly associated with queers? Being fabulous? Girl queers being decidedly not fabulous? Those are just stereotypes. You don't need a special word for stereotyping queers. Way to widen that rift.

And please for the love of shit please tell me nobody thinks Scar from the Lion King is gay for Mufasa or something. And what the fuck is this "queers can't be villains" bullshit?

>>54238947
I say it because OPP has all the signs of a company that'll get killed by its ownership. And honesty, if they do lose all of the WoD licenses (which I really hope they do), who the fuck is going to buy their cat/dog RPGs or the Scion or Aberrant/Trinity stuff that's, by all accounts, should already be finished?

>>54238947
>Guide to the Night:

Thanks. Sadly, it looks like a lot more fluff and little crunch, just like Secrets of the Covenants and A Thousand Years of Night, both of which were meh books, at best.

The fact that nothing has been announced for Forsaken is very disappointing. 2e represented some great improvements on 1e, and The Pack was a very good supplement. Maybe Stew is too busy with W20.

>>54239004
So there'll only be WoD and no CoD? RIP I guess.

>>54238967
will u be my bf?

>>54239032
Nope, I'm happily engaged. Thanks for the offer though.

>>54226670
>I'm curious if 2e Sin Eaters will be more like mages, mummies and demons

Wait, are Demons really that powerful in CofD? Kind new to the splat. Aren't they really good at staying hidden and getting out of dodge? From what I could gather you can get some relatively powerful demon made (abusing Momentum and such) but wouldn't a well made Vampire or Werewolf be better than Demon at anything?

Or are we talking about fluff "power levels"?

>>54238967
>I'm a fucking big ol' bear faggot in real life.

Except for the most extreme, most people right of the political center have absolutely no problems with gays themselves. They have the similar trials and tribulation as everyone else.

The problem is that many gays are defined by the extremely vocal and irritating radically left activists. "Gay" has unfortunately become synonymous the far left, despite the reality that gays, again like everyone else, have a range of thoughts and views about politics, culture, economics, etc.

You get articles like the one linked earlier when being gay totally defines someone, and they see boogeymen everywhere and in everything. Such people often claim gays are like everyone else, and then systematically, albeit unintentionally, demonstrate the exact opposite.

>>54239013
I find it funny that the thing I liked the most about Thousand years was the foes section, espically the abmortals. None of the elder vampire stuff really seemed all that.... cool, I guess.

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>>54239024
Until WW finds someone more competent to steward the line. Honestly, I look at BNS as a good example of a licensee over OPP. They hit deadlines (a few things were slow like foreign language translations), they don't go into shitty gender politics or self-righteous sidebar rants about food, gender identity, 'if you feel like playing with gay people is wrong, maybe there's something wrong with you' sidebars, etc. OPP injects too much of their own, and their die-hard echo-chamber fans', social agenda into it.

I just want a fucking game book with rules and setting. I don't need all of this fucking political bullshit.

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>>54239121
Oh, I get it. It's why my circle of gay friends is very, very small.

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>>54239073
ok

>>54239109
>Wait, are Demons really that powerful in CofD?

Demons are a in the top tier of raw power and versatility in the CofD. However, this is strongly balanced by a ubiquitous adversary, the God Machine and its angels, that are more powerful, numerous, and constantly hunting demons.

You might be interesting in checking out the Demon Storyteller's Guide. It has some of the best crossover observations and advice in all the CofD.

>Demon Storyteller's Guide.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/occ2b9

>geist winning at poll, then changeling and then mage
>noice
>went to kitchen for dinner
>comes back
>now changeling in first, mage second and geist third

What the fuck...

>>54239123
>None of the elder vampire stuff really seemed all that.... cool, I guess

While I didn't expect elders to be the Requiem equivalent of archmages, I was still hoping for a little bit more "oomph" mechanically to set them apart from other vampires.

I agree that many of the non-vampire adversaries comprised some of the best parts of the book (assuming OPP ultimately works out the editing nightmare that plagues everything, particularly stat blocks). My favorite was Deborah.

>>54239239
100% agree on Deborah, I'm thinking of doing more things like her, perhaps a lil weaker, for a neonate game. then again I'm a REAL sucker for faith/religous aspects of things... You know, the ones that aren't shitty Lancea et Sanctum fucks.

>>54239200
Thanks! I've barely skimmed through the basic book. Figured that Demons were pretty much fucked if they meet one of the God-Machine's angel so they are just very good at staying low. Spy style and shit.

>>54239271
Demons can get pretty ridiculous when then go loud. Only a freshly awoken mummy or a prepared mage will trump them.

>>54238358
Yeah, that's...that's really fucking weird. I mean I could see the argument that the Golden Age ended in the late 1500s instead of the late 1200s, but are they seriously saying that the Golden Age of Islam never ended?

>>54239167
Is this actually true? I've heard some stories from one of my cousins (married bulldyke with stepkids), but I didn't want to put too much stock in anecdotal evidence. She told me that she and her wife took their kids up to a pride parade in Charlotte, but had to leave because they were being debauched. Like fooling around in the street and shit.

>>54239230
It's messed up. It should be Geist instead of Changeling.

>>54239297
Ah, that thing that allows them to use all of the Exploits, right? It did seemed pretty neat.

Doesn't going loud fuck them over though? I believe it ruined one of their human suits permanently.

>>54239316
It really depends on where you go, but it can happen. Some gay people are so into their chosen scene and wanting to have that accepted (leather, puppy bullshit, etc.) that they don't have a sense of public decency. There's a point where 'I am gay and deserve the same right' and 'I am gay and <this thing that gets my bone going> should also be mainstream and recognized' is absolutely awful.

>>54239297
While overall power is inconsistent, as it should be, I wonder how one would make a proper tier list for crossover.

I'm not referring to just power levels here, as some splats derail others just by existing.

>>54239297
>Only a freshly awoken mummy or a prepared mage will trump them.

Or badass angels who'll definitely notice a Loud Demon.

Mummies and Demons have a lot more inherent and active constraints than mages, who usually seek out trouble and poke it in the eye in the pursuit of Mysteries rather than have trouble come looking for them.

>>54239342
All exploits of their type of demon. NOT every one in the book..

and yes they burn a cover to do it.

>>54239360
>I wonder how one would make a proper tier list for crossover.

Well, OPP stated that the Crossover Chronicles will be released soon(tm) and all you questions should be answered.

I don't envy the developer. They'll either be reviled as "ruining" everything or be a CofD superhero.

>>54239360

I believe Hunter already has a tier system.

>>54239271
Angels run the gambit from uber shit to probably punch holes in an entire group.

It'd depend on what rank the angel is and what powers it had.

>>54239420
Wait, wasn't that every Embed of their type and every Exploit? I remember it being really crazy.

>>54239427
>OPP stated that the Crossover Chronicles will be released soon

How soon is soon? 2020?

>>54239342
Yeah it blows one of their covers. It can be repaired but it'll take a lot of work. However, it might not be worth the effort since you got multiple covers. So you can switch to a patchwork burner cover if you're done with being subtle.

>>54239458
Maybe confusing embeds and exploits.

doh

>>54239427
They're probably going to butcher Mages.. Mummies n' Demons as well even. All for the sake of the special snowflake lessers.

Probably won't even mention Archmages at all.

>>54239446
Hm, the examples given in the source book seem a bit meek. But fluff text does imply that far more powerful ones exist. Which is why I assumed that Demons are not even meant to fight them. Just blow up the magical Infrastructure and get away.

>>54239460
Crossover chronicles is going to be more of the same shit seen in 1000 years of night?

Do people really think its going to have actual mechanics to "balance" all the splats together?

NO, it'll have bullshit fluff that lists how they can all play happy clappy with each other and have zero actual crunch.

>>54239515
Fight, Jack, Hide, Run, choose one when a Angel is inbound.

>>54239475
Huh, yeah, forgot that you can have multiple of those. That actually sounds rather awesome story wise. Keeping a unassuming, boring and rather irrelevant Cover to burn in and get some blaze of glory for a moment.

>>54239543
Hm, so you can actually punch good archangel Gabriel (even if it's a biomechanical monstrosity from outer realms of space/reality) in the balls. Nice.

Can I fuck a Demon? Or an Angel?

>>54239618
Yes and yes but only if the God-Machine orders it.

>Yes! Yes! Integrate me into the collective whole of the divine! Integrate me harder!

>>54239515
>the examples given in the source book seem a bit meek.

Check out the angels in the Demon Storytellers Guide linked above.

Archangels are scary.

>>54239670
>[Hallelujah Chorus intensifies]

>>54239618
>Can I fuck a Demon? Or an Angel?

I believe you at least have to buy them dinner.

So what do you guys think, Letter of the Marque merit for golden age of Piracy setting? Prereq for status or just a flat merit?

>>54239670
I am now. That is some scary shit.
And the way the book "analyzes" other splats is the example of why I'm still paying OPP money.

>>54239522
>>54239507
>Crossover chronicles is going to be more of the same shit seen in 1000 years of night?

I so hope you're wrong, but I wouldn't be willing to bet on it.


>>54239460
>OPP stated that the Crossover Chronicles will be released soon
>How soon is soon? 2020?

GenCon 2045

>>54239515
Archangels are 6+ entities. As such only Archmages, gods, Ascended beings and other similar phenomenal abominations can challenge them.

>>54239721
Or they're the Big End to a chronicle where you're finding their bane and ban SUPER hard.

Can I fuck an Archangel?

>>54239706
>Demon Storytellers Guide
>And the way the book "analyzes" other splats is the example of why I'm still paying OPP money.

>Demon - Mage crossover section once again proves Mages are the biggest assholes in the CofD.

>>54239748
>Can I fuck an Archangel?

You going to have to do a lot more than just buy them dinner.

>>54239375
Mages are plucky.

Better question: Can I fuck the God-Machine?

Bonus: Without going mad?

>>54239427
It's really the only reason I bother sticking around this place anymore, just to see how it turns out. I don't see any outcome where people like it, though I suppose its technically possible. It's either going to just come out and say that yes some people are more powerful than others and things stay the same as they are or get even worse, or else it will say that those rules are for the lines as individuals and running crossover you do this other stuff instead and the threads turn into a huge shit flinging contest. Unless its penned by beings of utter angelic grace though, I don't see it making this place any better

>>54239774
What, do they want a movie too? I'm not made of cash.

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>DaveB again prove mage supremacy over demons

>>54239759
Yup. And Strix being reality cancer is really fun idea.

>>54239805

Going Loud in mage is called "being prepared"

>>54239781
Well it depends on your chronicle, since I'm not sure there's a 'default' on how the GM is... though I'd personally assume that it's always "Mad" (as far as a cosmic entity CAN be "Mad")

In Dark Eras 2, is DaveB writing the entire Mage/Deviant crossover chapter, Light of the Sun - Europe (1600s)?

>>54239805
Hm. Am I the only one who worries that Deviant may have a bit too much thematic overlap with Changeling the Lost?

>>54239805
>DaveB again prove mage supremacy over demons

Why does DaveB hate all the other splats besides mage?

>>54239932
> hate all the other splats
Because they aren't as cool as mages.

>>54239945
>Because they aren't as cool as mages.

Are any of the other splats bigger assholes than mages?

>>54239930
>one who worries that Deviant may have a bit too much thematic overlap with Changeling the Lost?

In what way? Changeling is hardly the only splat that's hunted and damaged.

>>54239961
Beasts, werewolves, and vampires.

>>54239961
All splats can be gigantic assholes (even the Sin-Eaters can be abusive toward ghosts and the living). Mage just has that as a theme.

>>54239985
Well, they both seem to share a core theme of "somebody suddenly took you away to somewhere to be altered for nefarious purposes, but you escaped; the alterations gave you power, but also left you with a lot of scars, and you're furious at those who did this to you".

>>54239985
Not him, but it kind of is pretty similar. I mean, you're kidnapped (I think), twisted and changed, you escape, your captors try to reclaim you, and all the while you're struggling to cope with how you've been changed.

>>54239998
>CofD assholes
>Beasts, werewolves, and vampires.

I'll agree about beasts ("teach lessons"!), see nothing to justify werewolves at all, and vampire are minor league compared to mages, little more than irritating corpses with delusions of grandeur.

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>>54238967
It's offensive to have a word for using stereotypes?