Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for fast growing black tax crop getting into modeling even though they can't manage a bloody rattler

>>54217235
Well obviously pakis are rich

So, since the anons in the last thread were a bunch of unhelpful chaos cultist, i'm reporting this. I read trough manual and FAQ several times but could not find much helpful.

>Ok, /tg/ a couple questions on deployment and transports:

>If you could point me toward a rule/FAQ reference in the answers it would be great

1) "Tactical reserve" rule for matched play: do unit embarked in transport deployed normally count as being "on the battlefield", allowing more reserve units?

1b) On a similar note, if a transport is allowed to be in reserve, do units embarked in it count as being in reserve as well for the rule?

2) Transports and deployment: when you deploy your units "one at a time", do you independently use a "turn" to deploy the transport and its passengers or you use one for the transport and one for each embarked unit?

3) Combat squads: I am not 100% sure on how to interpret the combat squad rule, does it take 1 or two "turns" to deploy 10 tacticals split into combat squads?

>>54217300
>reporting

*Reposting

>>54217300
They're all considered different units.
You must deploy every single one of them separately and they count as separate unit for reserves and shiz

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>>54217300
If you can't read and understand the rules we don't want you mucking about mate. I'm sorry but it's reading man's game at minimum if not a thinking man's game (looking at you 7th)

>>54217317

It bust be hard to be such a genius, Anon

>>54217350
It's a game written for children so they can sell models to the parents of little kids. If you can't learn the rules once reading them you're badly off.

is there a way to let people know not to touch ur models, i hate when some fat kid walks up while im playing and gets his greasy little fingers all over my models that iv put hundreds of hours in

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>>54217472

A good sharp REEEE should do the trick.

>>54217316

So deployment goes;

I'm deploying this rhino.
Their turn.
I'm deploying these tac marines inside the rhino.
Their turn.
I'm deploying this librarian in the same rhino.

Is that right?

>>54217512
im not autistic but i dont wanna come across as an asshole and upset some 12 year old.

>>54217472
oi teww hwm noperdope bruv
people from europe are gay

>>54217526
It's more like;

Read the rulebook
Their turn not to be gay
Read the rulebook
Read the rulebook
Their turn not to be gay
Read the rulebook
Their turn not to be gay

>>54217528

I've never had anyone touch my models and I go to WHW every Wednesday, maybe try using a mantra like "They're touching my models because I am a great painter". Or just say please don't touch my models I'm about to play

>>54217534
go home chubby cheeks

>>54217563
Go spend one in a brown

>>54217526
No, when you deploy a transport you declare which units are riding in it and they all go down in one drop.

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>>54217546

Okay got it! I'll continue to deploy my embarked models as a single unit with the transport until it becomes advantageous not to, thanks!

>>54217585
>gayface.gif

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tfw the closest place to play is a 6 hour drive

>>54217657
do you thrive in my suffering demon?

>>54217579
engrish hard

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>>54217585
>>54217526
>>54217316

Is there such a thing as a fluff-compatible WAAC army ?

>>54217782
How much imagination do you have?

>>54217782
Imperial guard.

>>54217627
make friends and build your own tabletop. Shit is cheap as fuck and you don't have to deal with kids and shitty neckbeards in your own living room.

>>54217782
Your mom's always been a fat fucked up whore so you could play Nurgle and say you were born that way

Reiver rules yet?

>>54217858
Heavy bolt pistol: 14" Pistol 1 S5 AP -1 D1
Power knife: S:User AP -2 D1
Infiltrate like scouts
Primaris statline

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So how does this list look?

My friend things I should replace the Maulerfiends with Forgefiends instead and doesn't say why, and thinks I should drop the Defiler to buy more cultists instead.

Are the Doom Sirens worth it? 22 points seems like an exorbitant amount for what's essentially a heavy flamer that does half the hits.
Shaving off the Doom Sirens would get me 88 more points to use on something like buying a cultist squad.

>>54217221
So, with the knolwedge that we're getting codex's back, what do you want from your book?

As a Ad Meh player, I want:
>Canticles/Doctrines back
>New Units
>New CP uses

r8 this list
https://pastebin.com/M8nCT3wL

I feel like it doesn't have enough vehicles, but it's been working out decently while testing
never ran into anything super gay yet though so i wouldn't know how it fares vs. cheese

shove flamer grenadiers on the centaurs and go to town
put heavy weapons squad in a ruin somewhere and maybe have an infantry squad cover them if they have deep striking units
then just charge their ass and hopefully not die for an entire turn so you can Fix Bayonets! on the rough riders and kek hard in their face

>TSons without Magnus are overpriced, flavorless garbage

>>54217916
what about their vox-amps?

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This is cool

>>54217936
raise your noise marine squads to the sacred number, drop the doom sirens, and drop all the heavy support to replace it with 3 havoc squads with 4x missile launchers each then fill in however you want. Consider taking a flying DP with warp bolter and double hell talons if you can fit it

>>54217979
Like CSM raptors, -1 to Ld within 1".

>>54217979
Just to be clear, this is my prediction. I don't know for sure what the stats are yet.

Would anyone mind telling me the Cyclops Demolition vehicle explosive damage? I can't download the FW book at.

Which Knight is best Knight ?
Knights Errant seem to be the more cost-effective, but maybe I'm wrong ?

>>54218037
>>54218071
Nobody cares

>>54217943
I'll toss in Ranger guns getting their proper statline, Ironstriders gaining Sniper when stationary because that's their exact fluff in a nutshell, Skitarii getting Doctrinas/Hazard Protocols/whatever and turning those Reroll Ones canticles into a straight +1 just so we don't stack Reroll One To Hit six times because they couldn't think of another buff, dammit.

Also, some kind of cheap Skitarii HQ so I can leave the Techpriests at home and play proper Skitarii McExpendables.

>>54217996
>drop all the heavy support to replace it with 3 havoc squads with 4x missile launchers
Why should I do this? Is that better than Maulerfiends and Defilers? I thought that they would be better because more attacks and wound regeneration.
Are Hellbrute's worth taking? (Probably just use normal Dreadnought models but say they're Hellbrutes)

This list is mostly meant to take on people running horde armies, so the logic would be the Maulerfiends would be the front line meatgrinders for using their lasher tentacles to clear out infantry squads, while the Defilier was the rear line long range infantry meatgrinder.

>>54218116
Read the rulebook idiot

>>54218153
>read the rulebook for subjective strategy advice
Yeah good idea, I'll do that.

It answers none of my questions.

Would anyone rate my wall-of-text format list? RIP list builder
Points are 2k.

++Battalion detachment++

Tempestor Prime - 40

Tempestor Prime - 40

Tempestus Scions - 118
- 10-strong unit
- X3 Plasma guns

Tempestus Scions - 124
- 10-strong unit
- X4 Plasma guns

Tempestus Scions - 144
- 10-strong unit
- X4 Meltaguns

Tempestus Scions - 144
- 10-strong unit
- X4 Meltaguns

Enginseer - 52

Baneblade - 567
- Pair of H. Bolter / Lascannon sponsons

++Spearhead Detachment++

Pask - 221
- Punisher
- X3 Heavy Bolters

Leman Russ - 180
- Battle Cannon
- X3 Heavy Bolter
- Storm Bolter

Leman Russ - 180
- Battle Cannon
- X3 Heavy Bolter
- Storm Bolter

Leman Russ - 190
- Executioner Plasma cannon
- X2 Plasma cannon
- Heavy Bolter

>>54218183
>reddit formatting
try again you fucking idiot delete this

In fluff, Archmagos vs. Space Marine chapter master.

a) Who wins?
and b) Is there anything stopping Mechanicus forces using their data for ECM warfare? Power Armour and Battlesuits are complicated, could they lock the pilots out of control of those or anything? They use ECM among themselves, according to the Forge of Mars books. Hell, the Archmagi have a Matrix Animuu Duel inside the noosphere.

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So my start collecting set for the orks finally arrived and I just finished assembling the deff dread with as many guns as possible, as per ork specifications. Next is to break out the sanding sticks and clean up these mold lines

>>54218222
k... keep me posted

>>54218196

>"what's your opinion on my list?"

>*gives opinion*

>"why is this opinion?"

>"HURRRR READ THE RULES LOSER"

>>54218196
>>54218209
>samefag buttmad that his Discord got shat on for the shithole it is

>>54218252

Actually im a fresh poster, just upset about you thinking your opinion is objectively correct, when it is merely an opinion. You used that face already tho man

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You guys think Open War cards would be worth getting for some variation? Even if you're using matched play rules?

>>54218196
I didn't realize there were rules for understanding subjective opinions given to you with no further explanation.

>>54218272
They look like they could be fun, so I'm picking up a set.

>>54218272

They look fun as hell to me

>>54217936
I like it, although I'd put a scourge on the defiler instead of the havoc launcher and have him rush with the maulerfiends.

>>54218269
Stop fucking feeding him, he's going to do this for the whole damn thread if people encourage him.
Be the better man.

>>54218116
Basically, if you want to kill hordes, Maulerfiends and Defilers don't have the damage output you need. They're great against heavily armoured stuff, but not hordes.

The Missile Havocs on the other hand have a very decent (and long-ranged) answer against hordes while still being damn good against heavy infantry and tanks/monsters.

Helbrutes are... good. As a pure gun platform they're fucking worthless, but with a Power Scourge and a gun they can lend fire support while discouraging charges against the Havocs they're standing with.

However, since you already have a fuckton of Sonic Blasters, you should be set in the anti horde department so one Maulerfiend won't screw you over. That being said, I wouldn't use those Doom Sirens. Yes, they're cool, but they're too short-ranged to be useful to the squad.
Also check whether the Champion can actually take a Sonic Blaster, because he used to be unable to take one and I'm not sure they changed that.

>>54217936
you can't take Fabius Bile into your EC list. If you do you lose Noise Marines as Troops. Take the Cultists instead of him

>>54218376
>don't reply
>here's why his reply is obviously correct
You are intelligent

>>54218209

What makes it Reddit formatting?
Is it because I didn't copy-paste directly from battlescribe?

>>54218444
he's baiting badly, don't fall for it

>>54218444
>using incorrectscribe
Maybe it was that you are super retarded that made it like reddit. Maybe it was just because you're gay.

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>>54218376
>check whether the Champion can actually take a Sonic Blaster
Pic related. I assume this means I can take sonic blasters for the champion as well.

I'm liking the idea of dropping the Doom Siren and taking a sixth noise marine instead, which actually ends up being two points less than having a Doom Siren.

Replacing all the Maulerfiends and the Defilier with missile launcher havocs seems pretty nice, with those only being 165pts each, so a lot cheaper than the Defilier was at least.

I mean a Maulerfiend with Lasher Tentacles still does 4 + 2d6 attacks per turn, and hits really damn hard, even with the Lasher Tenctacles, while a Havoc squad does 4d6, and doesn't hit as hard. It felt to me like the Maulerfiends would be more reliable mass damage output vs Marines or Necron Warriors than missile launchers would be due to their high strength, plus the durability and wound regeneration the Maulerfiends have.

How would two Maulerfiends and a Havoc Squad be? Since Lasher Maulerfiends are only 8 points more than a Havoc squad, before buying any extra goodies for the Havoc champion.

Getting rid of the Defilier does free up a significant amount of points though. Just exchanging the Doom Sirens for a second sonic blaster wielding marine, and the Defiler for missile Havocs frees up 87 points I could spend on something else.

>>54218408
>Fabius Bile
>not Emperor's Children
What the fuck am I reading?

Should I put a Sorcerer or Daemon Prince in next to Lucius instead and make Bile command the Spearhead Detachment?

>>54218408
>>54217936
Also Yes Doom Sirens are worth it against any Armies that want to go into Melee. You position your Maulerfiends and Noise in the MIddle-field as a big fuckoff Blob of Death making people concentrate most of their Army in that Direction, The Doom Siren will get Overwatch in, Noise are still decent in Melee and your Opponent Might not even want to kill them as you get Free Blastmaster/Doomsiren Shots in (you dont even suffer the Heavy Penalty for the secondary Mode if you got charged)

Too Really top that off tho you want some Fast Attack choices like Bikers/Raptors or some Daemon Seekers/Chariots to encircle their Army. At best you table them/kill their Shooty Units with your Flankers. at worst you lock them in about a 1/3 of the battlefield while you control the rest.

Also not too Impressed with Defilers (mostly because the model is godawful tho) I am running a Similar List tho but with Contemptors instead Maulerfiends and aforementioned Fast Attack choices.

>>54218531
>listening to someone who clearly hasn't even read the rules
Wow, it's like you fucked your own ass.

>>54218555
I'm sorry but I can't Take You Seriously When You Type Like That. You must be 18 to post here.

>>54218585
Cease your autism, not everyone is a native speaker, or writer in that case.

>>54218555
>Too Really top that off tho you want some Fast Attack choices
It's supposed to be a 1500 pts list, I don't think I could fit that in while staying under the limit. How many is yours?

>>54218621
>but m-muh children
Kill yourself

>>54217472

keep a loaded pistol in your left hand at all times.

>>54218657
>people getting banned for "nth" posts
>shitposters like this still running wild
Good job janny!

>>54218709
We don't like you either. Kill yourself pedshit.

>New Plague Marine champion has ANOTHER fucking power fist
>It also has a fucking plasma gun, a setup you cannot take with a power fist
WHAT

>>54218709
Now you're going to get banned for criticism of the moderation.

>>54218731
c o d e x

>New white dwarf has Iron Warriors tutorial

FUCK YEAH TIME TO GET THE PAINT JOB DONE RIGHT

>>54218455

Alright. Cheers man.

>>54218628
The "Core" of my Army is about 1500 too but I usually only play 2000 pts games so this was assuming around that. That being said I only run 3 Squads of Noise. So that makes room for Bikes or Raptors. I've heard good stuff about Warp-talons now as they can stop overwatch and charge immediatly when they come down.

Cultists are a must-have tho Dirt Cheap and only exist to hold objectives while the rest of the Army is busy trying to encircle the opponent

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What's this?

>>54218408
But that's wrong.

So long as they have the <Emperor's Children> keyword, Noise Marines are ALWAYS Troops, no matter what the rest of your army is. The downside to doing this is that only buffs from <Emperor's Children> characters work on them

Nowhere does it state that "Noise Marines are only Troops choices in detachments entirely composed of models with the <Emperor's Children> keyword". It instead states that "<Emperor's Children> Noise Marines are Troops."

If you want to have Noise Marines benefit from, say, a <Black Legion> Chaos Lord's buff, then you'd need to suck it up and play them as Elites.

>>54218819
A rhino.

>>54218819
Read the fucking rulebook

>>54218819
deathguard tank

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>>54218822

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After not painting for over 5 years I forgot how tedious this shit is.

>>54218761
Whilst they can charge when they come down, they only stop overwatch on themselves and only on the turn they come down, plus the average on 2d6 is 7 and they need to roll 9 on the charge. A jump packed sorceror can use warp time to push them in closer to make sure they get in though, and you can use daemon buffs on them like a heralds +1 Strength aura or the rather powerful daemon spells. Slaanesh heralds can give them an extra fight phase in the psychic phase, nurgle gives them +1 to wound and double damage on 7+ to wound, tzeentch gives you one randomly of +1S, +1A and something else i forgot.

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Can Gun Crazy Show-Off rolls proc off a Gun Crazy Show-Off shooting attack?

>>54218867
Its not purposefully misinterpreting it, this is the fucking standard way its played. Fucks sake where do you even get these weird ideas?

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>>54218222
cleaning mold lines after assembly is a fast way to start hating yourself

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Okay /40kg/. Be honest with yourself. You know that GW is going to introduce either female Primaris or some form of female Space Marine (whether they're called that or not is irrelevant, whether they're just revamped Sisters is irrelevant).

How long until this introduction, what form will it take, and what's your face when?

>>54218913
Filename

>>54218731
But you can. The Index lists it as an option.
"May replace his Bolter and Bolt Pistol with a Power Fist and a Plasma Gun or with items from the Champion Equipment lists"

The option probably only exists to legalize this one model, but what the hell, you can take three Plasma Guns in 5 Plague Marines if you so choose.

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>>54218925

>>54218222
>buying the orks start collecting right before it gets repackaged for 8th

Yikes

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>>54218819
a cute

>>54218822
Are you sure?
If I understand correctly, Every unit in Atleast the detachment needs to have the same <Legion> Keyword to play any of the Legions

So yes in your case you could give the noise marines <black legion> But that doesnt give Lucius <Black legion> and Fabius Bile doesnt even have <Legion> at all meaning that you cannot put him into a Emperors Children List as then some Models do not have the Legion Keyword. You also couldnt put him into a <Black Legion> the only Army you can put him in is <Chaos> or <Heretic Astartes> which dont get any Legion special rules like Noise Marines as troops

>>54218929
Holy fuck this entire time i thought it was Power Fist and Plasma Pistol, because it looks like the other plague champion has a plasma pistol in his holster. Doesn't this mean the OTHER plague champion is invalid, since it doesn't have a plasma gun, yet has a power fist?

>>54217657
>>54217706
>>54217919
>>54218196
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>>54218293
Why bother avatarfagging if you don't even have anything worth saying.

>>54218929
>>54218991
NEVERMIND IM A FUCKING RETARD. I missed the power fist in champion equipment. Still they are forcing power fists pretty hard with plague marines.

>>54218925
Again, /tg/, they're already canon. Your personal /pol/ style headcanon for 40k is not the actual canon. Get over it and finish painting your felinid guardsmen with their Squat commissar.

>>54218943
>implying they will change any Start Collecting boxes except to put Primaris Marines into the Space Marine boxes

>>54217472
Just tell them you'd prefer it if they picked up your model from the base. (or not at all)

If they just pick it up without permission you're in the right to tell them to put it down and fuck off. It's rude to grab other people's things.

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Any nid players around? Thoughts on taking a prime? I typically run 9 warriors so was thinking the aura would be worth it.

>>54219032
Some of the current SC are nonsenical now, due to being unable to fulfill even the requirements for a Patrol. The Eldar SC now lacks troops of any sort, for example.

>>54219032
Painboy is not an HQ choice anymore so it'll probably get changed eventually

>>54218929
its a bait loadout that will get erased in their codex so that people have to buy moar plastic dudes

>>54218905
RAW, yes.
RAI, who knows but I'm guessing an FAQ would say no.

>>54218925
It's not gonna happen bro. Stop shitposting.

>>54218905
How many points is 5 gitz with runes anyway?

>>54218972
>Every unit in Atleast the detachment needs to have the same <Legion> Keyword to play any of the Legions
No, they need to share *a* faction keyword. And Chaos is a faction keyword they definitely share.

The special rules aren't exclusive to legion-specific armies/detachments, they are exclusive to legion-specific units.

Look for example at Plague Marines because that makes it easy to understand.
The normal entry for Plague Marines has the battlefield role symbol for Elite at the top and <LEGION> as a keyword.
The Death Guard entry for Plague Marines has the battlefield role symbol for Troops at the top and DEATH GUARD as a keyword.
And this is the only difference. You can put either datasheet into your army, but one of them gives up the freedom of choosing a Legion for the "better" battlefield role of Troops.

>>54219075
Can I get an email or Reddit account from you? Because when they do reveal them I expect you to buy me a tactical squad

>>54219129
On Page 57 of Index Chaos it even says under "Lords of the Plague Host" that death guard plague marines become troops, without any other stipulations or requirements.

>>54218917
Eh, I enjoy it since it lets me judge what I actually have to bother to clean up. For example, if there's an injection port in between two tubes which have a gap no less than 5mm, but it's gonna be covered by armor plating, I won't stress myself out over it

>>54219149
just stop

>>54218272
I might use the random scenario deck in friendly matched play games because it looks fun as fuck.

>>54219066
It probably won't get erased. It IS a bait loadout though, in the sense that this combination is excessively expensive while not being very good. If you just want a Plasma Gun on the Champ, just give him a Combi-Plasma and have done, there, 18 points cheaper. The Power Fist is terribly overcosted, but even more so on a model with only 2 attacks.

It's the sort of honey trap option that looks amazing while not being all that good, like double Heat Lances on a Talos.

>>54219184
Seriously, please start using a trip because it'll be really funny when they do this.

They unironically just have to design a female head sprue that's useable on Space Marines (which are compatible with Primaris as well). >>54219184

>2€ per poxwalker
is nurgle the cheapest horde army now?

>>54219129
So you're saying I could run Typhus Ahriman and Kharn in my Emperors Children Army?

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>>54218925
We just had the fist change in how space marines are made in 10,000 years. If GW didn't use that to add waifu marines, I don't think they're going to.

>Icon on Lesser Daemons

Yay or nay?

They seems quite expensive for what they do

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>>54219200
yes

>>54219203
There's nothing about emperor's children noise marines being troops that requires it to be an emperor's children army.

>>54219198
yeah but they have literally no reason to do that

Who's stronger this edition, Ork or Necron?

>>54219231
More options always makes more money than less. You're retarded if you think most people wouldn't buy a head sprue just for variety.

That's ignoring the players who don't have a Marine army but might if they could do waifumarines

>>54219221
Lesser Daemons do get pretty fucked up in the morale phase and even if you only lose one guy you get to roll morale, so its nothing but a positive on those turns. I think it can be worthwhile in the 30 daemon blobs.

>>54219190
>unironically run plas pistol and fist
>unironically run double heat lance talos
A-Am I going to be Ok?

>>54219226
Yes it does the Noise Marines on pg 31 are Elite. They are only Troops (pg 65)when you have a EC Army

>The Heretic Astartes datasheets found in page 16 to 42 CAN be from the ECs Legion, this is represented by replacing the <Legion> keyword in ALL INSTANCES with <Emperors Children>

Fabius Bile does NOT have <Legion> therefore The Army is not able to take the Pg 65 Troops Noise Marines as they are not a Force of the EC.

>>54219253
It's a risky move given their fanbase. I personally would quit the hobby. I'm quite a feminist IRL but 40k is one of the few old-fashioned settings that doesn't feel obliged to change itself for the sake of political catering, and that's why it's good. Femarines will be the red line on this.

>>54219253
>[desperate autogynephila]

>>54219203
Yes and no.
There is no Emperor's Children army for now.
Once Codex: Chaos Space Marines comes out, expect bonuses for sticking to single Legions, but currently there's no such thing.
For now you can totally take Ahriman and Kharn as HQ and three squads of Emperor's Children Noise Marines as Troops and call that a Battalion detachment, yeah.

Any change of a link to Primarchs #5: Lorgar Bearer...

>>54218972
Yeah you've just made rules up based on expectations but that isn't actually what's in the rule book. They can all be taken together using the heretic astartes keyword and the noise marines can be taken as troops if they also pick EC as their legion keyword. There is nothing limiting it.

Every other reply to someone's question is "read the fucking rulebook"

This is annoying

>>54219306
If anyone does they're sure as hell not giving it to a fucking tripfag.

>>54219286
You'd quit a hobby you've sunk hundreds if not thousands of dollars into because the company gave more options

Options you don't have to choose? Or even have to fight against?

Did you think out your reply?

>>54219312
its annoying that the rules are like 8 pages, and people cant seem to read them

>>54219286
>I'm quite a feminist IRL
Please stop making me cringe.

>>54219319
>what, you are going to stop shopping at (insert store here) just because they start selling aborted fetus parts? baby fetus parts you dont have to buy? did you even think about this?
yes i thought about it, and female marines are worse then selling aborted feti

>>54219253
More options always costs more money. Lots of it, as far as I can tell. And selling sprues of extra heads and bits is not GW's standard business model. Chapter iconography is about the only similar thing I can think of.

>>54219284
>represented by replacing the <Legion> keyword in ALL INSTANCES with <Emperors Children>
If he doesn't have a <legion> keyword it's not a problem, you can take bile.

>>54219270
The Heat Lance Talos is rather retarded because you pay fifty freaking points for two shots on a BS4+ model. Even if you run mono Covens, just spamming Dark Lances on Raiders is more efficient.
Plasma Pistols... well, they got a new lease on life since they can fire in melee and are pretty cheap, but Power Fists on Sergenats/Champions is awful this edition. Just count them as Lightning Claws.

>>54219369
It explicitly says pages 16-42 and Bile is page 15 so...

>>54219319
It's a matter of principle actually. I've just started so it's not that much money. First of all, it's about the lack of political virtue signalling which I appreciate. Second, I love the concept of space marines, that's the soul of 40k for me. And that very concept is simply a male concept. The idea of a space marine as they exist right now is just not compatible with them being women.

>>54219342
no, go ahead and cringe you autist

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>>54219397
You sound upset Mr. Feminist. Is something wrong?

Space marine terminators which is best in a general sense Shooty Hammer Tartaros or Cataphractii?

>>54219408
I sound upset? Quite the contrary my friend!

>>54219384
>it's a matter of principle that I won't allow girls in my boys only club

>>54219424
>quite the contrary
Post your fedora collection already.

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>>54218925

>>54219425
Actually yes, pretty much that.

>>54219454
agree 100%, girls dont have to be included in everything

What's the best site to order GW minis from nowadays?
stores are still undercutting GW's MSRP, right?

>>54219124
I'm gonna assume you mean "runts"

Flash Gitz are 27 pts, snazzguns are 0, stikkbombs are 0
Ammo runts are 4 pts

5 of each would be 155

>>54219510
If US, ebay. Or hunt around for discount sites.

>>54219497
Oh, don't kid yourself. You aren't the world-weary oldfag who sees tabletop gaming as a desperately needed time-out from the girlfriend/wife. You're the socially awkward loser whom girls want nothing to do with and who is trying to convince himself that this is his own choice.

>>54219284
In all Instances means in those datasheet you mong.

So I just checked the primaris librarian price/statline out, and they cost just as much as a normal librarian

are chad marines really squattting the marinelets?

>>54219541
not him but now you semi-officially revealed yourself as nothing but a baiting shitposter

Comments on this GK list?

Draigo (240)
Brother captain - Storm bolter, demon hammer (165)
4x Strike squad - 4x Halberd, Psilencer (107x4)
4x Purifiers - 5x Halberd (140x4)
Understrength Knight of the flame - Halberd (28)
2x Stormraven - 2x Hurrican bnolter, twin lascannon, twin heavy bolter (289x2)

Total: 1999

>>54219572
Cost as much but higher stats*

>>54219574
He's not me and I'm the one who initially posed the question regarding femarines.

It sucks you guys are so against it but maybe when the models are revealed to be cool like Primaris you'll get over them just like you did those

>>54219541
>argumentum ad hominem
Good job.

>>54219312
Maybe you should grind the rules up and shove them up your ass to absorb them like you absorb all that dad cum you retarded kike

>>54219311
>>54219369

So what you're saying is :" I Just give The Noise Marines a Different Legion than the rest of my army so they are troops" even if that would be possible It's surely not intended to use them in that way, else the fact there are 2 different Datasheets is completely obsolete

The reason those Keywords exist is so that you cannot just stack extra rules for free. like seriously, you would play your World Eaters army, with World Eaters rules/requirements, and then tell your opponent, yea those troop choices are actually Emperors Children.

If you choose a Detachment/Army you have to choose a Faction Keyword and this is what I assume Pg. 63 references to. At which case it doesn't matter if they're all Heretic Astartes, as the Detachment at this point only cares about the units lining up with Emperors Childen or <Legion>

This is also exactly why there are two different Datasheets so you COULD use Noise as a Elite for other Armies

It also says that Emperors Children Armies may only take model from page 16 to 42, 64 and 65. Effectively Excluding all Unique Characters except Lucius.

GW is bad at writing rules and those Indexes were super rushed, use some common sense man. My Print actually has the Sorcerer on Steed of Slaanesh with the Nurgle Keyword misprinted.

>>54219583
>Understrength
That'll get you some funny looks. I wouldn't play it.

>>54219631
Stop giving the RAWfags replies.

>>54219631
>The reason those Keywords exist is so that you cannot just stack extra rules for free.

No, the reason there rules esist is to limit buff stacking.

If you want to run multi-legion list, your buffing characters from one faction won't affect the other one (with few rare exceptions) and vice-versa

>>54219541
i meant included as options to play ingame. women dont need representation in everything, its ok to have space marines be men only is what im getting at. im all for women playing 40k, means more games at my local. but you seem to be real invested in the issue

>>54218256
Discord? Isn't that naziskype?

>>54219631
>arguing with a FAQ-blasted keywordfag
How fucking stupid can you be, redditor

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>>54217221

>>54219672
Stop reading buzzfeed dumb faggot.

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>>54219658

Bbbbut... D6 mortal wounds smite for 28 points....

>>54219585
they wouldnt be cool, they would be ruining the lore. they would be as cool as if there was a new big bad guy and the imperium had to team up with chaos to fight it and became bffs.

>>54219511
27 points for bs4+ nobz with what is basically heavy bolters isn't too bad.
20 points for 5 ablative wounds + rerolls is a steal.

Decent shooting and tasty in a fight, why do they say these guys are bad again?

>>54219585
I actually liked the primaris first and then started to dislike them when it was obvious that they are heading for a cod tacticool generic modern soldier look.

>>54219631
Besides that Running Fabius Bile in an Emperors Children Army is like running Cypher in a Loyalist DA army

>>54219585
>when the models are revealed to be cool like Primaris

Inb4 bolter tits

>>54219286
>i'm a quite a feminist irl
Not sure if trolling or unironically proud of supporting sexism like the istanbul convention

>>54219700
>27 points for bs4+ nobz with what is basically heavy bolters isn't too bad.

I would agree if they were 36", allowing them to gun-line while staying mostly still.

>>54219688
It's only rules-legal if you literally do not own the other models for the unit, and even then it's pretty cheesy.

>>54219706
Except that unlike running Bile running Cypher with DAngels is somehow legal.

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check this bishie avatar of ynnead.

>>54219732
Looks like a slaanesh daemon. So perfect for Ynnead then.

>>54219717
>implying women hit their husband
Found the mra grognard

>>54219727
why is this an issue, cypher has been able to run with imperium forces in previous editions

>>54219726
>It's only rules-legal if you literally do not own the other models for the unit

So i guess tournaments will require a full house search as part of the list checking

Agreed on the cheese tho

>>54218819
Interesting. Could be a new unit or could be a conversion. Some bits look a bit too crude, though then again, this is GW we're talking about. Some bits look a little too clean and up to date with newest Chaos aesthetics (DI DG) to be just scratch built.

>>54219766
Touraments will just house rule no understrength units. Given how unenforcable the rule is, I expect most LGS will frown on understrength unit use as well.

>>54219765
In previous editions there were also extremely explicit rules saying that Cypher can never be fielded in any army containing DA models. Nevermind the inherent lore rape behind it.

>>54217235
What the fuck are you even on about. The words are in English but it's like it's coming for a retarded person.

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>>54218925
You don't have to face femarines, if you play editions where they don't exist.

>>54219784
>Nevermind the inherent lore rape behind it

Speaking of wich, what would be the more lore-rape list?

Blak templars with primaris psykers, demonhosts with GKs, DA and chiper?

>>54219805
Daemonhosts with GK could make sense in a very retarded and fucky way. DA with Cypher could potentially happen in a one off alliance against a common threat. BT with psykers would literally never ever fucking happen.

>>54219688
Which is kind of why it might get frowned up, you dig?

>>54219805
All of them, since at one point in time none of those were legal combinations.

>>54219805

Either imperial soup or chaos soup
maybe the chaos superfriends soup with kharn leading psykers or something allied with a LoC among other things

>>54218272
>worth
>getting
>GETTING

Do you mean worth spending even more money? Or worth obtaining the information on the cards?

>>54219836

Well, chaos soup can be only justified with "black crusade"

>>54219801
Sure, but you'd have to find people to play said older editions with you.

And since playing 6th and 7th was about as fun as pouring acid down your urethra, you'd have to go pretty damn far back in the editions.

>>54218209
I hate Reddit, don't even have an account, and still thing you are an ass blasted faggot. The spacing is fine.
Fucking summerfags

>>54219815
>BT with psykers would literally never ever fucking happen.
U wot?

It's canon they fought side by side with eldar psykers in gathering storm while protecting a human psyker.

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so why is this a thing?

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>>54219926
why is this also a thing

>>54217528

Just be thorough on the varnish

>>54219915
Just Ignore the guy

Its Literally the same autistic guy who has been insulting everyone posting anything for attention in this thread. He probably got/gets bullied and is just venting here instead of doing anything worthwhile with his life.

>>54218071

Crusader puts out toooons of damage, tje rapid fire battle canon and gatling gun are insane although costly

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Conscripts are fun

>>54219871
Yup, really easy to use a card deck when all you have is a pdf of them.

>>54218272
The idea of randomly generating a mission does sound fun.

>>54220048

If only we had a pratical way to do it without having to spend more money.

Like small solids with numbers printed on that you could throw around...

>>54219732
what the fuck is ynnead

>>54220084
New Eldar god of sex with humans.

Lightning Claws on Bikers? Yes/No?

>>54220123

Only on sarge

>>54219676
>>54219660
The faq didn't cover this at all and I struggle to see how it isn't RAI anyway. The benefit of taking legion options as troops in a mixed army removes the benefit of them being affected by auras, so it is a trade.

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>>54220119
wtf i love nuGW now!

>>54220084
Is this bait or are you massively out of the loop?

Ynnead is the Eldar God of Death, born because a ton of Eldar died without having their souls eaten by Slaanesh. Ynnead is the one chance the Eldar have of surviving Slaanesh. Ynnead collects the souls of all Eldar that die in order to starve Slaanesh to death.

>>54220151
>Sabreface

>OmNomNom Yeah, give me your souls, I'm totally saving them from slanesh

>OmNomNom

>>54219940
Because FW wanted the Conqueror to be Cheap, but the writers aren't used to having weapons be priced seperately. Why do you think so many weapons in the FW Indexes cost 0?

Is there a Mega yet for Index Pdfs?

>>54219926
>>54219940
Bring it up for a seventh time in the next thread maybe there are people who haven't seen it yet

>>54219315
Ok, I'll bite, what's a "tripfag"?

>>54220259
Get a load of this guy

>>54218037
Heavy 2d6 S9 -2AP d3D automatically hits one use only.

>>54218183
Why not Taurox Primes?

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>>54220259

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>>54220187
>Have your soul eaten by Slaanesh and raped for all eternity, along with being totally useless to everyone.
>Have your soul eaten by Ynnead, allowing your children and future generations to fight against the horrors of space by burning your soul for power

Tough choice sempai

>>54220359
>allowing your children
You wouldn't have any childrens, sice, well you are dead and your soul eated by the god

>>54220419
>when your soul is eaten all the children you've sired over the last few centuries spontaneously vanish

>>54220625
>all the children you've sired over the last few centuries spontaneously vanish
Technically most of them were already eaten by Slaanesh before the birth, and now another warp god sending you and a lot of other eldars on suicide missions, to "save" you race, but actually he just wants more souls

Trying to get plaintext output on battlescribe to share it, but the plain text setting seems to not be working; I select it and the formatting doesn't change. When I go back to settings, it has defaulted back to HTML.

>>54220732
So stop formatting and type the damn list out. There is always that one faggot bitching about formatting whatever you do

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>>54220151
I unironically like this one.

>>54220732
Just avoid shit like
Dude squad
-Dude with melta
-Dude with melta
-Dude with melta
-Dude with melta

Just say
4x Dude with melta
If you have like 4 squads with the exact same loadout just go

4x Dude squads with 4x melta dudes.

>>54220866
I know that's supposed to be a female World Eater, but if just looks like the one punk faggot the World Eaters tolerate to fill diversity quotas

>>54220896
No no no wrong wrong wrong.
You need to type out every detail with precision. The fuckers in here will sperg all over you otherwise.

>>54220927
Sperg will sperg out about anything

Hell you say the truth like Tau are inferior to humans and there is one faggot that get so assblasted it hurts to read.

>>54220866
With that art style that Marine just looks like a slim dude with a mohican over his Nails, honestly.

I tried out this list for 1500 pts
https://pastebin.com/HcNy6sU5

I had to proxy some Death Riders because poverty, but all in all the list was decently successful.
Haven't played vs. massive cheese yet so i wouldn't know how that'll work out

I feel like I need more vehicles, but at the same time I really wanted those death riders squadrons.
Those are hilarious if you can pull off a Fix bayonets!

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Hmm so this is the Death Guard tank?

Looks kinda goofy IMO.

>>54220952
Seems pretty workhorse. No flashy bullshit, just a lot of things that work well and one fun combo with the Riders.

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So how viable are Deathwing in 8th so far?
I haven't played since 6th and refuse to update my Sallies with chads, but running a full Terminator/Dreadnought army sounds fun as hell.

Best way to run Bullgryn?
Supporting characters I should run?

>>54220994
Kinda looks like the designer had a massive nostalgia boner for the WHFB Hellcannon.

Well I imagine it's going to be some kind of Salt-the-Earth style artillery gun, which seems like an awesome addition, because Death Guard ploddingly advancing while getting cover fire from artillery is fluffy as fuck.

can someone toss me a mega link for the cult mechanicus painting guide "the xenophagists expedition"

couldn't find it in the 3 megas usually linked in op.

>>54220945

>baiting him into starting up another shitfest
>>>/goandstaygo/

>>54220359
>Have your soul eaten by Slaanesh and raped for all eternity, along with being totally useless to everyone.
>Have your soul eaten by Slaanesh not even bothering to wear a disguise and willingly sell what's left of your race to a literal death cult.
I guess it all depends on how gullible you are.

>>54221013
I can tell you right now that DW knights + a DW ancient (+ Asmodai if you feel like completing the deathball) and possibly a DW champion are an hilariously strong combo, if not a bit on the expensive side.
All those attacks are going to ruin your opponents day and the characters can comfortably sit behind the shield wall while they absorb the overwatch fire
Dreadnoughts are also pretty good in 8th so they might be interesting additions (although you need a lucius pattern drop pod to deep strike them)

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pls r8/h8/ber8 my orks beginner list, I spent an autistic amount of time making sure I could do it as either 50PL or 850 pts to suit whatever my opponent is willing to play


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Orks) [50 PL, 850pts] ++

+ HQ +

Warboss [4 PL, 68pts]: Big Choppa, Kustom Shoota

Weirdboy [4 PL, 62pts]: 3. Da Jump

+ Troops +

Boyz [13 PL, 225pts]
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Ork Boy W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Rokkit Launcha
. Ork Boy W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Rokkit Launcha
. Ork Boy W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Rokkit Launcha
. 26x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Gretchin [2 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin

Gretchin [2 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin

+ Elites +

Nobz [11 PL, 166pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. Nob: Choppa, Kombi-Skorcha
. Nob: Choppa, Kombi-Skorcha
. Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga
. Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga

+ Fast Attack +

Warbikers [9 PL, 187pts]
. Boss Nob on Bike: Power Klaw
. 5x Warbiker

+ Dedicated Transport +

Trukk [5 PL, 82pts]: Big Shoota

++ Total: [50 PL, 850pts] ++

Boss and nobs go in the trukk, weirdboy makes the big mob jump, gretchin are a meat shield and troop tax. I would include more boyz but I don't want to kill myself before I finish painting them all

>>54220866
Looks better because of no boob plate.
I honestly though have no idea why people want Female Space Marines. Like, after all the enhancements, they wouldn't even look remotely female, and are just a fucking frankenstein man monster. The SoB need an update and actually retain their feminine side in a badass way, yet are constantly overlooked by these feminist SJW fucks. I could get behind those, but female space marines is dumb.

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So realistically speaking, do you guys really think we'll finally get some plastic Sisters next year? I mean, they won't just skip giving the Sisters a codex... right?

>>54220314

>Why not Taurox Primes?
Going to try grav-shute dropping them in, as opposed to mechanised.
Transports seem really expensive.

>>54221135

It's looking like we're going to get *something*.
Between the Celestine/Veridyan releases and the answers the social media team are giving on Facebook, there's something brewing.

>>54221106
It looks beautiful, honestly. Not that different from a 1000 pts army I'm playing today, except I have more nobz in my trukk, and all my troops are boyz (no grots painted, yet).

Best of luck with it!

>>54217300
this is literally spelled out in the rules and faqs. embarking units reduces your number of drops, regardless of where they're placed. most transports cant start in reserve though, so embarking is generally a way to increase your chances to get initiative.

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>>54221116
GW already made femarines, they would just be a sci-fi version of this.

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So I want to put her in my IG army as a primaris psyker and thought of giving her a bodyguard in form of battle sisters' squad. How fucked is she? Is it even remotely fluffwise? What do sisters think about sanctitoned psykers? Order of Sacres Rose in particular?

>>54221183
Honestly, even just the release of one plastic troops box would make the whole army a lot more cost effective/easy to convert. I bought a box of 5 metal sisters as I was thinking of starting a SW:A killteam with them, but I've been wanting to make a full army for 20 years.

>>54221202
they'd have to radically change the fluff to allow female marines (not that they wouldn't be able to do it, of course)
but it does feel like major butchering of whatever was estabilished up until now

>>54219049
It's ace. Cheap synapse, good HQ, and that +1 to hit is really good on Warrior Deathspitters.

>>54221202
Yep, they designed a female Sigmarine, stuck her in a tiny little sideshow game and then refuse for months and months to actually release said sideshow game for fear of neckbeard revolts.

>>54221191

Still nothing spells out if units embarked in a vehicle in play are considered to be "on the battlefield" (thus allowing an equal amount to deep strike) or not.

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Should I do an orange and black color scheme for my new Necron army or stay with the iconic metal and green colors?

I don't want to be boring but at the same time i feel like it's their go to scheme for a reason.

>>54221232

I just can't understand why it cannot take wings to accompany shrikes

>>54221231
>saying this after the end times and age of sigmar
It doesn't matter. None of this matters.

>>54221218
I mean, just a tiny little Skitarii style release.

1 box that makes the Troops Sisters and the Heavy Support sisters.
1 box for the Exorcist/Immolator.
1 box for Seraphim.
2 clampack HQs.
1 stupid big thing to get the 40kids interested.

There. Screw all the other stuff, literally just this. New players would think this was a cool new thing, old players would get the plastic sisters they've been praying for. Everybody wins. Well, everybody except the Shitsters of Basshole faggot, but screw that guy.

Tau 2000pt Bridage

HQ: 370pt
2x Commander (4x Fusion Blaster)
Ethereal on Hover Drone

Troop: 258pt
4x FW pulse rifle strike team (5 guys, ui has ML)
2x FW carbine strike team (5 guys, ui has ML)

Elite: 548pts
Firesight Marksman
Crisis suit team (3x Flamers each)
Riptide (DC, ATS, HBC, SMS)

Fast Attack: 188pt
Pathfinder Team (10 man, one ion rifle, pulse accelerator drone)
3x Tactical Drones (4x Gun Drone each)

Heavy Support: 636pts
Sniper Drones (3 of them)
Hammerhead (Railgun, SMS, 1x seeker missile)
2x Broadside (HRR, SMS, EWO)


Suggestions? Trying to make a well-rounded 2,000pt list. This uses nearly all my Tau, plus an extra 10 FW and sniper drones I haven't got yet.

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>>54221330

I like ceramic cron

>>54221347
>flame crisis and fusionmander meme list
>no stealth suits for homing bacon
Meh.

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>>54221135
of course
why do you think the basshole guy is shilling sisters so hard

>>54221342
That would be pretty awesome. I bought a few GSC things when they came out (and two copies of DWOK), so hopefully that lets GW know these smaller armies are worth the effort, even if putting out more Space Marines would obviously get them more money for less effort.

>>54221332
Because fucking Chapterhouse man. It's their fault we can't get models without rules. I'm just hoping Shrikes don't get SQUATTED in the Codex when GW realizes Forge World doesn't produce their wings anymore.

>>54221376
I could try to fit a stealth team in. I'm planning to mostly rely on my broadsides and hammerhead for tank popping, though. Is there something you'd recommend I do with the commanders and crisis instead? I didn't think that one crisis flame team was untoward, and I'm wary about whether or not the broadsides and hammerhead will cover me for AT.

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>>54220994
Some (blurry) artwork, along with a rather silly potential name.

>>54221231
they could do it and im sure there is a right way to do it

but i dont trust GW to do it the right way, I dont think they got the talent for that (see primarines)

also I really dont want them to bring female orks back PLEASE NO

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>>54221231
Doesn't feel like any more of a butchering than what we already have with Primarines.

And besides, it seems pretty obvious they're setting something up for the missing legions.

>>54221213
you know sister were in a codex called witchhunters, right?

>witch with a witchhunter bodyguard
mkay ward

Sup /tg/ I am doing a khorne demons army but making conversions to represent other gods in the crunch (such as bloodletters with hell-talons as daemonettes) and am at a loss for what to do about nurglings.
Has anyone done anything simular or have any suggestions for how to do something like that? Any help would be appreciated.

Nothing that's in an index can get squatted in the codexes, the rules indexes only go obsolete if/when an updated ruleset for that model appears in a codex. If shrikes aren't in the nid codex then the index rules for them won't be invalidated. About all GW could do is include "updated" rules for them and make them like 400 points per shrike so nobody used them.

>>54221473
Technically speaking, there is a difference between a witch, sorcerer, random psyker and sanctioned psyker.

Witch hunters only care about Sanctioned psyker when they go ballistic. Rest of the time they just keep an eye on them while they focus on the other bastards.

>>54221473
>>witch with a witchhunter bodyguard

you should run some Grey Knights to bodyguard the Bolter Bitches bodyguarding the psyker

>>54221434
I wish those jackasses would stop teasing already and give us some actual info. I have no idea what this army is getting and I refuse to purchase anything until the new stuff comes out. I mean sure I can make a functioning army out of Plague Marines, Poxwalkers, Helbrutes, Rhinos, Predators and some characters, but why should I gimp myself if I know there are Terminators, more Daemon Engines and apparently a fucking artillery tank coming? Never mind the fact that Typhus is literally better in every possible way than a Lord of Contagion and if he gets a new model like Ahriman and Kharn I'd be all over that.

Just show me what my summer campaign army might look like, damn it GW.

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>>54221513

The best bodyguard for any psyker is a commissar

>>54221528
I'm feeling you, except Primaris

I know I've got a little more info than you, but at the same time, no rules, no release schedule, no prices

>>54221535
I would say a SoS, since beside blaming the fucker they are rather immune to them.

Any idea if FW is putting out an FAQ for the Imperial Armour indexes any time soon? The books are a right mess and FW support hasn't returned my email from last week.

>>54221513
>>54221535
i like this angle that theyre her "bodyguards" aka if you go crazy we shoot a bitch

maybe shes their former sister who discovered the powa and got the stamp

>>54221561
You're dumb and should feel dumb

>>54221425
Your troops seem like a waste honestly, what will they be doing? They don't have the numbers for anti personnel.
I'd recommend swapping them out for kroot so you at least can tie up enemy guns if they get close.

What's the latest DEldar fluff I can read

>Outrider Detatchment, 938 total
>1x Broodlord, 162p
>36x spore mines, 360p
>6x biovore, 216p
>40x hormagaunts, 200p

>Outrider Detatchment, 738 total
>1x Broodlord, 162p
>36x spore mines, 360p
>6x biovore, 216p

>Outrider Detatchment, 522 total
>1x Broodlord, 162p
>18x Mucolid Spores, 360p
>13x hormagaunts, 65 points

Fortifications, 237 total
>3x SPorocyst, 237p

Total: 2500 points

Each turn I'm making, assuming I miss every shot, 9-15 new spore mines of some sort. Every spore mine will deep strike. Brood lords will hide out of LOS, hormagaunts will protect biovores or go in with mines to support them from being entirely shot up if my enemy is shooty.

Rate this list. Suggestions on how to take more mines? I could drop mine production and go full "deep strike mine list" and spam outrider detatchments.

>>54221477
>daemonettes in a khorne army
What the herasy?

>>54221097
Literally all I want is an excuse to convert the hell out of a bunch of Terminators and Dreadnoughts, and chinaman can make the latter affordable.

All I'm thinking is running two units of knights, two units of vanilla termies, and three dreads. I haven't looked too much into it but hoping that formations are going to be mostly untouched so I can get some bonus to fielding a Triad of Dreads.

>>54221580
We are in Age of ULTRAMARINS
Retarded fluff is at the order of the day.

So having a super special Snowflake SoS guarding your super special snowflake psyker is okey in the Nu Goble Bright lore.

>>54221434
Post Mortarion or get out

>>54221617
What has this hobby come to...

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Riptide in 8th
Manta strike or deploy from start?

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>>54205012
I did it.

>>54221656
Pay to Win as always?

>>54221673
>mines
>pay to win
wut

>>54221592
Thanks for the feedback! I could go for some Kroot; maybe swap the carbine teams? I'm also considering swapping the second fusion commander for a second ethereal, which would give me room to flesh out the infantry squads more.

>>54221668
>Canada
You must escape anon.

>>54221658
Don't bother competitively.

>>54221213
As long as she has some fluffy saintly powers and only manifests ice when she draws on the warp she should be fine, if not fluff wise likely incredibly powerful to have drawn the sister's attention

as soon as it starts smelling like nurgling droppings and rains blood and piss while she tries to smite they'd prefer her blammed.

they'd do it though, as in bodyguard her, ultimately the cannoness has the ultimate say in how they're expected to behave, and they're fluff wise fiercely loyal to her

if she doesn't have saintly powers you could always just make them unwelcome allies. I mean, letting a psyker roam the battlefield alone in the world of 40k is pretty derp for several reasons

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>>54221330
I was originally going to set my crons apart by using a rust scheme, realized that the black and green style from the origibal codex cover and dawn of war was among the reasons that drew me to the army, and painted that instead.
Wip fags beware, horrible quality incoming.

>>54221634
formations are rip, you only have generic ones; for the fluffy (and hopefully good) ones you'll have to wait the codex or something.

you definitely want to have a Chaplain with your knights for the goodies, maybe even an Interrogator chaplain for the Aura of Dread.

You also probably might want to invest in a deathwing ancient to get that +1A aura, being a character right now it should be easy to just have him run with your squads.

maybe a librarian too, those come in handy (and the new primaris librarian gets the DEATHWING keyword and Unforgiven special rule for free)

>>54219311
>They can all be taken together using the heretic astartes keyword and the noise marines can be taken as troops if they also pick EC

What are they picking EC as their legion keyword for?

You already said your building the detachment around HA thats the only time you pick any keyword, where RaW and for what reason are you picking EC as well on units in a detachment built around another chosen keyword.

>>54221658
Deploy at start, ion canon, and early warning override.
Get something scary to thwart enemy deep strikes and soak up fire from your main force.
Technical drones are also a must since on a 4+ they give it back d3 wounds.

>>54221686
The prices here are a lot, but I guess it's not as bad as Australia. Then again our minimum wage is a lot lower than theirs. For now, they're increasing it by like $3, I can't wait for our Dollar to be worth even less.

>>54221688
I don't bother competitive

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Memes and shitposts aside, so /tg/ why don't homebrew?

>>54221656
Oh come on, anon. Bullshit gimmick lists that nobody in their right mind would ever actually run are always being posted here.

>>54221676
You have to pay for models don't you?

>>54221729
That's a sign you should flee South anon. I don't want to see my Canadian brothers suffer in the name of "equality"

You guys actually work hard and I'm seeing refugees get paid more than you just by existing.

>>54221734
Then whats it matter? Do what feels more fun at the time!

>>54221751
Hey I play my 6 PE list a lot.
Sadly I can't make Repentias work.

>>54221472
Traitor leigons remade into primaris loyalists. Neat

>>54221751
I mean more generally in the last few months.

>>54221681
One ethereal is good, and they do buff battlesuits as well.
Blue people infantry really benefit from a fireblade since he turns each of them into a mini burst cannon.

>>54221758
mines are like, dirt cheap

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Can you still play apocalypse in 8th?

>>54221788
Dont forget 2 and 11 because now is as good as any to shit on the still warm grabe of good fluff

>>54221804
Do whatever you want in 8th

>>54221789
From my perspective, away from an overcomplicated mess of a rule tangle to something that is actually playable.
Plus one of my favorite armies is now a starter set army and gets appropriate levels of love, so I'm just enjoying the rollercoaster right now.

Tau or necrons?

>>54221634

Who you buying from

>>54221788
Yep, now my Thousand Chads can exact revenge for Prospero by bullying the Yifflets into submission.

>how's the air down there, furryboi?

Also Reivers are basically predestined for loyalist Night Lords successors.

>>54221668

Congrats

Gonna order my SC DEldar next week

>>54221828
I was all about slimming down rules but GW took it too far to the point were it became messy from the other way. Plus there seems to be a serious deindividulastion and lack of customisation that I resent.

>>54221791
Revised list:

Tau 2000pt Bridage

HQ: 252pt
Commander (4x Fusion Blaster)
Ethereal on Hover Drone
Cadre Fireblade

Troop: 356pt
4x FW pulse rifle strike team (7 guys, ui has ML)
2x Kroot squads (10 guys)

Elite: 548pts
Firesight Marksman
Crisis suit team (3x Flamers each)
Riptide (DC, ATS, HBC, SMS)

Fast Attack: 203pt
Pathfinder Team (10 man, one rail rifle, pulse accelerator drone)
3x Tactical Drones (4x Gun Drone each)

Heavy Support: 641pts
Sniper Drones (3 of them)
Hammerhead (Railgun, SMS, 2x seeker missile)
2x Broadside (HRR, SMS, EWO)

>>54221706
Depending on how expensive it might be, I'd like to run both an Interrogator Chaplain and a Librarian, just because if anything was made more fun lately, it's psykers. Problem is, I never trust characters over weight of fire and dice, since I started with Orks and ran alot of flamers on my other armies, so I'm loathe to trust 200+ points on two models that may not do anything worthwhile.

And for reference I ain't running a single chad in my army. Hate the concept and application of them and I don't care how useful they are, I'm not gonna add them.

>>54221748
Half-eldar.
Exarchs are the ones with an eldar mother as this means they spent years in the womb and are thus closer to their Eldar half than their human half.