/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Modern Spearhead

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July 9th in military history:

491 – Odoacer makes a night assault with his Heruli guardsmen, engaging Theoderic the Great in Ad Pinetam. Both sides suffer heavy losses, but in the end Theodoric forces Odoacer back into Ravenna.
660 – Korean forces under general Kim Yu-sin of Silla defeat the army of Baekje in the Battle of Hwangsanbeol.
1386 – The Old Swiss Confederacy makes great strides in establishing control over its territory by soundly defeating the Archduchy of Austria in the Battle of Sempach.
1701 – A Bourbon force under Nicolas Catinat withdraws from a smaller Habsburg force under Prince Eugene of Savoy in the Battle of Carpi.
1745 – French victory in the Battle of Melle allows them to capture Ghent in the days after.
1755 – The Braddock Expedition is soundly defeated by a smaller French and native American force in its attempt to capture Fort Duquesne in what is now downtown Pittsburgh.
1790 – The Swedish Navy captures one third of the Russian Baltic fleet.
1863 – The Siege of Port Hudson ends, giving the Union complete control of the Mississippi River.
1932 – The state of São Paulo revolts against the Brazilian Federal Government, starting the Constitutionalist Revolution.
1943 – The Allied invasion of Sicily soon causes the downfall of Mussolini and forces Hitler to break off the Battle of Kursk.
1944 – Operation Charnwood gives British and Canadian forces control of Caen north of the Odon and Orne rivers, as well as the Carpiquet airfield.
1944 – American forces take Saipan, bringing the Japanese archipelago within range of B-29 raids, and causing the downfall of the Tojo government.
1944 – Finland wins the Battle of Tali-Ihantala, the largest battle ever fought in northern Europe. The Red Army withdraws its troops from Ihantala and digs into a defensive position, thus ending the Vyborg–Petrozavodsk Offensive.
1972 – The Troubles: In Belfast, British Army snipers shoot five civilians dead.

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It is 631 years since the Battle of Sempach, fought between the forces of between the Duke of Austria Leopold III and the Old Swiss Confederacy. The battle was a decisive Swiss victory in which Duke Leopold and numerous Austrian nobles died. The victory helped turn the loosely allied Swiss Confederation into a more unified nation and is seen as a turning point in the growth of Switzerland.

During 1383-1384, the expansion of the Old Swiss Confederacy collided with Austrian interests. In 1385, there were various attacks, without formal declaration of war or central organization, by Confederation forces on several Austrian strongholds.

In January 1386, Lucerne expanded its sphere of influence by entering pacts with a number areas under Austrian control. This move was the immediate cause of war. A local Austrian force defeated the Confederate garrison at Meienberg, and Lucerne called the Confederacies for assistance. An armistice was called, but neither side had any interest in ending the conflict, and instead it escalated into a full-scale military confrontation.

Duke Leopold gathered his troops at Brugg, consisting of his feudal vassals, as well as mercenaries and the bourgeois forces of various towns. In the course of a few weeks, no less than 167 noblemen declared war on the Swiss. These declarations were sent to the Swiss diet in groups. On 24 June, a messenger brought 15 declarations of war. Before all letters had been read, another delivered eight, and before he had finished speaking, yet more were brought in. A further eight messengers arrived on the following day.

The gathering of Austrian forces suggested an intended attack on Zürich, and the Confederate forces moved to protect that city. But Leopold marched south, with the intention of ravaging the Lucerne countryside and perhaps ultimately the city itself. The Austrian army had a troop of mowers with them with the purpose of cutting down the corn and destroying the harvests along their route.

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>>54216683
Leopold's men taunted those behind the walls of the town, and a knight waved a noose at them and promised them he would use it on their leaders. Another mockingly pointed to the soldiers setting fire to the ripe fields of grain, and asked them to send a breakfast to the reapers. From behind the walls, there was a shouted retort: "Lucerne and the allies will bring them breakfast!"

The Confederate troops marched back from Zürich once it became clear that this was not Leopold's target. The forces of Zürich had remained behind defending their own city, while those of Bern had not heeded the Confederate call for assistance.

The Confederation Army had assembled at the bridge over the Reuss River at Gisikon. It marched from there, hoping to catch Leopold still at Sempach where he could be pressed against the lake. Around noon, the two armies made contact about 2 km outside of Sempach. This was to the mutual surprise of both armies, which were both on the move and not in battle order. But both sides were willing to engage and formed ranks.

The Swiss held the wooded high ground. Since the terrain was not deemed suitable for a cavalry attack, Leopold's knights dismounted, and because they did not have time to prepare for the engagement, they were forced to cut off the tips of their poulaines which would have hindered their movement on foot. The Swiss chroniclers report how a huge pile of these shoe-tips was found in a heap after the battle.

The main body of the Confederation army finally completed its deployment from the marching column, formed up, and attacked the knights from the flank aggressively. The Austrian force formed a wide rank and threatened to surround the outnumbered Confederates.

How and at what point the battle turned in favour of the Confederates is a matter of debate. In any case, the Swiss did break through the Austrian ranks and routed the enemy army completely. Duke Leopold and with him a large number of nobles and knights were slain.

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>>54216702
Traditional Swiss historiography since the 16th century has attributed the turning of the tide to the heroic deed of Arnold von Winkelried, who opened a breach in the Habsburg lines by throwing himself into their pikes, taking them down with his body so that the confederates could attack through the opening. Winkelried is usually explained as a legendary figure introduced to explain the Swiss victory against the odds, perhaps as late as a full century after the battle. The earliest evidence of the Winkelried legend is the depiction of the battle in the Lucerne Chronicle of 1513. The oldest accounts of the battle are unambiguous in the judgement that the Swiss victory was against all odds and expectations, and is attributed to the grace of God.

Not without justification, the Battle of Sempach came to be seen as the decisive turning point between the foundation of the confederacy as a loose pact in the 14th century, and its growth into a significant political and military power during the 15th century. At the peak of the military success of the Eight Cantons in the period of 1470 to 1510, Swiss historiography paid great attention to the Battle of Sempach. It is depicted in the Swiss illustrated chronicles of the period, and discussed by Reformation era historiographers such as Aegidius Tschudi and Wernher Steiner. Since there are few historiographical accounts of the battle predating 1470, it is difficult to judge the historicity of the individual details.

Sempach is a bloody and closely-fought battle, representing a shift in medieval warfare, and is definitely worth a turn on the tabletop.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/0827v9nhi65ynn9/Osprey+-+ELI+189+-+European+Medieval+Tactics+%282%29.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ltrrxb4d2bgkxpb/Osprey+-+MAA+094+-+The+Swiss+at+War+1300-1500.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jbnm8prrz1443g4/Osprey+-+MAA+166+-+German+Medieval+Armies+1300-1500.pdf

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>>54204784
>Not terribly familiar with the French overall, presuming I used them for 1917-1918 Foreign legion and they had Berthiers instead of Lebels what inaccuracies would prevent me from using French minis for late ww1 and early ww2?

Reservist and second-line units in 1940 would be largely indistinguishable from their comrades in 1914. Assuming your opponents are not utter pedants with an encyclopedic knowledge of the French Army, you should be fine.

>>54216783
>those fucking eyes

What drives people to ruin their works with them?

>>54216657
I had a look at the Ostfront rules and it looks like it could make for some fun, comfy tank on tank action. What other rule sets would you fellows recommend for purely tank battles? I'd like to compare them.

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>>54216906
You could also look at Rapid Fire. It works really well in 1/72 which is great with all the models avaliable in that scale.

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>>54216960
Thanks. I didn't see it in any of the OP links (maybe I missed it), but I was able to find this pdf.

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>>54217108
We should have the 2E in the WW2/Games folder
Here's a Mega link otherwise:
https://mega.nz/#!3tdwwYBS!xNDK8tFRzViztZUugml19EQryUvx-qbdfi7VjkiSyXM

>>54217158
Thanks amigo. I missed it when I was looking for it but now I see it is there.

Gonna try out a bit of Combat Search and Rescue in Slicks and Snakes later today so I should have an AAR up for you guys later tonight or tomorrow.

US forces:
- 2x Cobra gunships
- 2x Cayuse recon ships
- 1x Huey Slick
- 3x downed pilots

VC forces:
2x 23mm AA guns
4x DShK HMGs
3x Weapons squads
6x Rifle squads.

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>>54216906
That's definitely what Ostfront was designed for. It started as tank on tank on the eastern front - a fun way to battle the 1/72 miniatures we could find at local toy stores. The ranges suit 15mm or 10mm better though.

>>54217108
Fuck I got annoyed by those rules calling a 39 -model group a "battalion". Like if you're making rules for a historical wargame, could you please research even for 10 seconds to find out how many people are in a battalion or a company. 39 men is a fucking platoon or a half-dead company.

The Constitutionalist Revolt in Brazil is very interesting, actually. Richest, most populous, most developed state in a country alongside sone separatist rebels versus the rest of the country. São Paulo is also marshy highlands, so it can get quite tough.

>>54217634
According to them each figure represents 15 guys and each vehicle represents 5.

>>54217634
Are you simply unaware of the concept of scaling?

>>54217723
>>54217713

That pdf didnt seem to mention the figures representing more than one guy though. I'm not familiar with the ruleset otherwise.

Also it's very common for the layman to be confused about military organization names and sizes of units. It's just so wrong to call a few dudes a "division" for example. That happened with a streamer playing stell division normandy, and he just kept calling his sections of brits "divisions". I couldn't watch, just kave me such childish vibes.

Like, I know it's not a crime to not know those things and it's not the worlds end. It just annoys me.


Is Rapid fire played on a map then, instead of to-scale terrain? In that case i understand the models are being used as markers for units. Otherwise it would still piss me off.

Disclaimer: I am completely aware of my total autism. We're on 4chan after all.

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WW2 Plane game incoming from Warlord, apparently.

>>54217850
Is there something wrong with my banter, chaps?

>>54216884
It makes any kind of figure good playing Ctulhu games where madness got to them after they've seen a various amount of demons.

>>54217850
This... is way too tempting.

>>54216783
Thanks mate! That's what it seemed, though even reservists would be wearing the brown and not the blue-grey right? So my 1917 French would have to be foreign legion or other Colonials.

>>54217850
>now we'll have German plastic planes

Great. I love how they hyped the fuck out of Sea Lion but practically released, and then forgot about P&S: ECW.

>>54217836
Muh colored brother, I completely understand and share your autism.

It's just so damn annoying when you're trying to watch a movie or play a game and somebody calls a group of four motherfuckers a "platoon". Youtubers are absolutely guilty of this too, I can't recall how many times I've seen and heard supposedly serious people call a force of less than a hundred models a "battalion".

>>54218734
I mean, is it any surprise?
Way more people know and care about WWII than the P&S era. Most non-Europeans don't even know the P&S era existed. Even then, it's not hard to find an Italian who knows the history of conflict as being Romans-Knights-Napoleon-Mussolini. They skip over P&S shit in most popular culture.

I think we in the hobby underestimate exactly how shallow the average person's depth of historical knowledge might be.

Don't get me wrong, there's a place for obscurity. I just bought a set of French Indochina figures. But Warlord is trying to market to the potential GeeDubs/Non-grog consumer. They want new blood, and new blood likes Nahtzees much more than Parliamentarians.

>>54218859
Then why even release it if they don't give a shit about it? The ECW is big in Englad as I understand - same with VBCW, which got shitton of new stuff, and unlike that, the ECW actually happened.

As for Europe, the Thirty Years War was like the biggest and most colourful war up to date. Lots of various nations, colorful uniforms, tactics that range from basically ancients to pike and shot with everything inbetween. Yet, all we got are three generic boxes. Given their recent somewhat mini-sprue-ish approval to their Napoleonics, it could REALLY work for P&S. Cuirassiers, Dragoons/Harquebusiers, one small sprue of 3-4 figures and the generic renaissance horse sprue...

Also, fucking FINALLY they release their landsknecht. Shame I basically lost interest in them by now.

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Anyone got a source on bazaar/market-stall type terrain in 15mm?

Bonus points if it looks like it would fit in with a shanty/slum-like area.

>>54217836
>Is Rapid fire played on a map then, instead of to-scale terrain? In that case i understand the models are being used as markers for units. Otherwise it would still piss me off.
Figure ratios, ground scales, and time scales are a long and groggy tradition. It's shitty designers who handwave that away who are ruining the hobby.* 1:1 figure ratio is a terrible thing in most wargames, and idiots who don't stop to consider ground scale are the fucking worst. Yes, well done, you've built a ruleset where no-one can fire from one end of pegasus bridge to the other, why have you done this.
by ruining the hobby I mean often creating fun and cool rulesets to play with your toy soldiers

>>54217850

You know I always wondered why we didn't have X-wing WWII or WWI edition.

>>54220728
>tfw can't tell if trolling or just missed the WW1/WW2 air combat games X-Wing was directly based on

>>54220737
>tfw comment on someone's post but forget to include the second line, telling the other anon that the game in question was wings of war/wings of glory (it got renamed at some point?) so they can look it up
>tfw tfw

I was reading on Wikipedia about those French foreign legion sappers with their massive axes and mustaches and thought to myself that I'd like to paint some of those. Where can I get models of such units? 28 mm preferably. I can only find Warlords but I think they're a bit gorilla'ey

>>54221946
Perry

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_28_54&products_id=1947&osCsid=kr7hv3mhqa0er0tlq5o7qrblh5

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>>54221978
They have a couple of sets with them btw, the one I linked is hardly the only one.

>>54222021
>>54221978
You da man, man

>>54217836
None of this made any sense to me, until I read Charles Grant's The War Game.
About half-way through, he explains that the table scale of 10 yards to 1 inch (so he can have a big battle on a small table) plus the fact that a real Prussian batallion was 125 yards along the front, means that a table batallion has to have as many toy soldiers as fit in 12.5"

It all makes perfect sense, but no other book I've read bothers to explain it.

>and I still hate looking at 12 models and trying to imagine 570 men in 3 ranks

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Whipped up a quick map for Slicks and Snakes' first outing. Dense green stippling indicates heavy cover, light stippling indicates lighter cover. The dark brown area indicates the low ground flanking the river. The river requires infantry and weapons bases to use half their movement to cross, and the square paddy fields force all infantry and weapons bases to move at half speed while in them.

The 3 US Pilots must escape the battlefield in the back of the Slick.

Charlie's objective is to either kill or capture the pilots and drive off the CSAR operation.

Orders of Battle at the start of the scenario were as follows:

B Troop "Scalphunters"; 7th Squadron, 17th Air Cavalry
>1x AH-1G w/ 2x M200 FFAR pods (Hi-Ex), 2x M158 FFAR pods (WP) - Callsign Badger 1-1
>1x OH-6A w/ M27 minigun pod - Callsign Badger 1-2
>1x AH-1G w/ 2x M200 FFAR pods (Hi-Ex), 2x M158 FFAR pods (WP) - Callsign Bushpig 1-1
>1x OH-6A w/ M27 minigun pod - Callsign Bushpig 1-2
>1x UH-1H - Callsign Bandicoot 1

>Pilot, Co-Pilot and Crew Chief of UH-1H, Callsign Baboon 2-4

231st Main Force Battalion, Viet Cong Guerrillas
>2x ZPU-4 AAA Batteries
>4x DShKM HMG Batteries
>6x Viet Cong Guerrilla Squads
>3x Viet Cong Heavy Weapons Squads

>>54218980
I can't be arsed to buy and assemble and paint a few hundred square based dudes who are particular to this setting which is famous for having confused, tacticless battles and where protracted sieges could win wars.

On the other hand I could pick up a handful of tiny manz and have a blast playing Major Mannering vs. The Submarine Crew. That would be fun and I wouldn't give them your name, Pike!

I'm all for autism, but some settings just suck for some scales. 28mm Pike & Shotte is one of those.

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>>54222939
>Deployment
The US deploys within 6" of their board edge, divided into two teams. One on the left flank, closest to the crash site, consisting of Badger 1-1, Badger 1-2 and Bandicoot 1. Bushpig 1-1 and Bushpig 1-2 start on the right flank to cover the rescue attempt. The crew of Baboon 2-4 deploy adjacent to the crash site.

The VC have ability to deploy much further forward than the US forces. The DShKM batteries anchor the far left of the battle line, flanked by a group of two infantry squads and a heavy weapons squad, with a final group of the two ZPU-4 batteries, two heavy weapons squads and the remaining infantry squad on the far right.

>US Turn 1
After winning the roll for 1st turn, the US helicopters shriek into the AO. Deployed in two hunter-killer pairs, Badger and Bushpig lead the charge with Bandicoot bringing up the rear. The front-running Cayuse recon ships drop down to the Nape of the Earth while the heavily loaded Cobras climb to high altitude, eyes raking the jungle canopy for signs of the enemy. Bandicoot chugs along behind, dropping in behind Badger 1-2, ready to swoop down and pick up the precious cargo.

In the jungle, weighed down with survival gear, radios and M16 rifles, the crewmen of Baboon 2-4 scramble away from the blazing wreckage, frantically radioing their position to the approaching helicopters.

All five helicopter pilots are unable to spot anything through the steaming canopy.

With no targets to fire at, the turn passes to Charlie.

>VC Turn 1
The VC advance in line abreast, still anchored by the DShKMs on the left. The unwieldy HMG's will soon be in position to cover the crash site and any viable landing zones nearby. Sneaking along the dry river gulch, three central guerrilla infantry squads position themselves to cut off the pilot's escape route and vector small arms fire onto the incoming helicopters. On the right flank, gunners crank the quad-barreled ZPU-4s skyward while their escorting infantry push forward.

>>54223611
The ZPU gunners manage to spot the sleek silhouettes of Bushpig 1-1 and Bushpig 1-2, but the olive-drab gunships are still well beyond weapon range.

Down over the canopy, the darting shapes of Badger 1-2 and Bandicoot are shielded from the prying eyes of the DShKM teams and their attending infantry. Circling like a buzzard at high altitude, Badger 1-1 is easily picked out by the sharp-eyed Charlies.

Despite spotting most of the inbound Americans, the VC are unable to capitalize on this early success due to the relatively short ranges of their weapons.

>>54218734
they already seem to have forgotten about sealion, it would have made more sense to release all the minis/supplements first then do the campaign but now you have the second wave coming out as it starts, not to mention they are already gearing up for the bolt action new guinea book with a big aussie release.

I have to say...I don't give a shit about ANOTHER new mini game....its like these guys have adhd, id rather they just stuck to the franchises they have or better yet released some for the arsenal miniatures/bolt action stuff the previewed TWO YEARS AGO.

>>54223795
Keep going anon!

>>54224478
also does anyone give a fuck about some of the games? terminator genesis they were practically giving away, and antares while gaining ground still isn't big, and the doctor who game just feels like a failure, haven't seen any hype for it and the minis are both an unpopular scale and for the most part, practically unconvertable...so its just a bunch of people all playing with the same statuettes with paint jobs of varying quality.

On the topic of ECW, i'm actually surprised that we didn't see more considering how it is the owners favorite and the owner clearly decided what gets priority.

Any ideas as to a good system for mercenary tank adventures?

>>54227607
>inb4 Ostfront

>>54224478
> or better yet released some for the arsenal miniatures/bolt action stuff the previewed TWO YEARS AGO.

they were supposed to release the never-manufactured Immortal miniatures plastic persians, what, six years ago?

Ree, my friends. Ree.

>>54217836
Non 1:1 representation and different scaling of miniatures and map trigger me too.

Also, that stupid fucking argument for arty being on the table in FoW saying that it's some sort of space magic scaling and those units are actually kilometers behind and not chilling out in an orchard 100 away from the battle.

>>54227607
For a more campaign oriented/small-scale game I'd actually recommend Twilight 2000.
For a larger scale, I dunno, maybe FFT?

>>54223795
What's the ground scale in this game?
The ZPU has an 8000m range, and the DsHKM 2000m effective range.

Even if the enemy is outside of their effect range, they would still likely funnel fire into the area, possibly giving the US the willies (are there morale checks for vehicle crews in this game?)

Helicopters are large, noisy targets and the VC should pretty much always know where they are. If its a crash site the US are after, the VC would be all over that crash site, set up waiting to cover it. Looking at the map those ZPUs and heavy weapons should be engaging the US helis straight away from turn 1 through the open ground. If your ground scale is very small though that would make more sense that they dont.

Oye, lads, just finished editing FoF - Classified PDF. So how do I
1. Know that the PDF is safe to share/doesn't have any incriminating breadcrumbs?
2. Upload it for you fine gents?

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>>54227607
Do you want a game where 3 or 4 people control a single tank?

Tank duel is kind of fun looking for this, but it doesn't really cover the in-depth damage and resupply stuff you'd want for a mercenary adventure. With a good DM / GM I'm sure they could homebrew that up.

>>54228228
1. Make sure your name isn't printed on the pages anywhere ie as a watermark
2. Pop it on a free and anonymous file host - perhaps ask in the PDF share thread if you don't already have one

>>54223160
>tacticless battles
>Wallenstein and Adolph Gustav

>28mm Pike&Shotte sucks in 28mm
>not wanting to play Mount&Blade on the tabletop

>>54225652
>terminator genesis
Tbh it has a really solid ruleset. I'll try to scan the quickstart rules, but after reading it, I really like it, and it seemed that it was originally meant to be a more universal system as it has "bow" in the weapon selection - hardly a useful weapon against endoskeletons, but if you wanted to play zombie games, it could work.

>>54217850
I know it's not /hwg/ but someone on this board mentioned an upcoming fantasy skirmish game from warlord, has anyone heard anything similar?

>>54228217
The ground scale is 1" to 100m, giving the DShKM a range of 20". Regarding the ZPU, I've seen effective ranges listed anywhere from 1400m to 5000m so I picked a middle ground of 30".

Spotting helicopters at high altitude is incredibly easy, it gets slightly more difficult depending on distance and altitude. The spotting system is an abstraction of visually identifying the target and interpreting it's exact position.

Speculative fire is definitely going into the game, as will a morale system.

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>>54229085
That's a pretty small ground scale. What scale miniatures do you plan to have it played with? That kind of ground scale might work better with markers rather than miniatures. Even 6mm would be a bit large to comfortably handwave that ground scale. (A rifle being able to actually hit something no further than 1" or up to 3 to 5" for a maximum effective range of an AK or M16.)
Obviously miniature scale and ground scale won't be the same, but for example Hind and Seek uses 1" = 20m for 6mm minis and even then that's on the small side for a ground scale, with a rifle firing about half as far as it would in a 1:1 ground to miniature scale.

Implementing real life weapon ranges into a tabletop game is a real challenge - best of luck to you!

>>54229379
I was shooting for 6mm figures on 20mm bases. It's pushing the envelope a bit, but I felt that 1"-100m gave the best ratio for movement and weapon ranges etc.

>>54228065
>Also, that stupid fucking argument for arty being on the table in FoW saying that it's some sort of space magic scaling and those units are actually kilometers behind and not chilling out in an orchard 100 away from the battle.
That's generally a symptom of the kind of designers who don't think about figure ratios and scaling and just handwave everything, because they're coming from strict 1:1 where they don't have to think about that stuff.

Ground scale should be different from figure scale unless you're literally playing a tiny street gang skirmish, and time scale should always be considered.

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>>54227607
>Any ideas as to a good system for mercenary tank adventures?
If you're really keen check out Phoenix Command's tank system

>>54218483
>So my 1917 French would have to be foreign legion or other Colonials.
They would be perfect for Colonial troops in North Africa etc, yes.

>>54229508
What's the time scale for a turn? it would take a man a while to move 100m through dense jungle, even 100m in open ground. If your infantry are moving more than 1" at a time it would take even longer...

It might be better to abstract the air speeds vs the ground speeds - give infantry and aircraft a move that "feels right" on the table. Likewise it might be worth having a telescoping range scale rather than a strict 1" = x metres system. You could reduce longer ranges and increase lower ranges so things feel right on the tabletop.

How far can an average assault rifle fire in this game? without a scope you'd be hard pressed to hit anything beyond 100m, with 50m being comfortable for a man sized target. Beyond 100m you're only really going to be suppressing the enemy and maybe getting a lucky hit every now and then.
300m - the "effective range" of an AK is really a bit far to actually hit something without a scope, as is the 500m "effective range" of an M16.
From my hunting experience, firing at 300m even with an excellent scope, it was still difficult to hit a man-sized target exactly where you wanted. I tried for a head shot on a goat at about that range and ended up missing the clean kill but blowing the jaw off instead. Provided a sniper would be far more familiar with their weapon and easily able to pull off a head shot at that range (this was my first time firing that specific .308), but it shows that ranges beyond 100m are difficult to get hits at without a scope, even when you're taking your time and carefully aiming - which isn't usually the case in the heat of combat.

>>54230278
Movement has already been a bit abstracted, aircraft are moving at reasonably realistic airspeed, informed by their cruising speed broken down into m/s. I've been rounding up a bit to keep things fun but I there's a little bit of thought to keep things consistent.

Infantry movement has been really abstracted, otherwise they'd literally moving at 1" per turn. An infantry squad moves 4", weapons bases are a little slower depending on weight.

Weapons fire from infantry represents the whole squad blazing away on automatic at a distant target, the ground scale doesn't really take individual marksmanship into account. M16 rifles have a range of 6". The damage system puts greater weight on pinning with the odd chance of doing damage. Infantry combat in this game is about pinning and suppression, the damage dealers are artillery and aircraft.

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does Ostfront-anon have an "official" email address?

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>>54231547
You can email me at:
[email protected]
I do have an "official" [email protected] address as well but its forwarded to my regular email and I tend to reply from my regular email anyway.

>>54231547
just leave questions here and he WILL answer

>>54225652
I might have been interested in the terminator game if it was t2 styled but the genisis film and style where crap so that killed any interest I had.

Are there any classic books on game design that you guys would recommend to someone who has played tabletop for most of their life, but never sat down to think about the nuts and bolts behind the games? I finally settled my ADD riddled mind on a period but I feel like, while I can recognize when a game is fun, I still lack the ability to explain HOW it is fun.

>>54233239
Little Wars.

H.G. Wells's tale of developing what's basically the original miniature wargame (rather than military simulation) covers a lot of still relevant things.

>>54232220
HE ALREADY HAS!

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OK, grogs

https://mega.nz/#!xPJi3TgR!kLi_0ZvPIPj4Jup8YP3d_uHsapZ5Y6aGkz0kOAu6lnI

Force on Force - Classified. My first scan!

>>54234194
You legend. thanks anon

Hi all,

Does anyone here have experience trying to do miniature wargaming with Tabletop Simulator on Steam? I can't seem to find any info online or otherwise about how it can be done, if at all.

>>54234799
I have. Never really played anything, tho.

Just watch the tutorial in the game.

>>54234799
What exactly do you not find?

There are tutorials on youtube for almost everything, from adding single items together to an army, to set up tables etc.

The steam workshop offers tons and tons of historical (and other) miniatures and vehicles to use.

>>54234864
I can only find 40k/X-Wing stuff on youtube, unless that's what you're suggesting I refer to.

And is there any way to determine scale/dimensions of the table? Obviously I have had little experience with this program so far.

>>54234915
The "game" has all tools necessary available. Rulers, calculator, dice etc. You select what you need and then draw a line with your mouse to see the distance for example.

I have not much experience but i managed to play a game of Bolt Action against a buddy.

I used this video as my main guide and picked some "starter armies" and other BA related stuff like a map etc from the steam workshop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM17XxzGdM0

>>54234761
I hope it gets uploaded!

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>we will never get the original plastic Pro Gloria landsknecht due to Warlord greed

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Ok. I look for autistically complicated rulestet for wild west shootout, so 2 figures on 2 figues would be a viable game.

Boot Hill was not yet threre, and our depository only has LoTW. I heard about Once Upon A Time in The West and Old West Gunfight 1816-1900?

Is there other west than the one for beer and pretzels?

>>54217850
Oh boy, WW2 plane game #189382, how exciting, can't wait, I'm sure it's going to be original

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>>54236905
>somewhere deep inside
>something's got a hold on you

>>54237124
Phoenix Command has a western supplement IIRC

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Bumpin' across the Rhine

Someone had posted an ebay shop that they liked for getting grass tufts and the like for basing. Guy was based out of the UK and had a stand alone site as well. Anyone know what I'm thinking of?

>>54239749
Was it Tajima?

http://www.tajima1.co.uk/index.asp?pageid=282517

>>54239848
It was, thanks anon.

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OV-1

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>>54234194
>>54235126
Thanks heaps anon, this is one that I always wanted to see. Added to folders.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/7b7g0wrct8elmt4/FoF+-+Classified.pdf

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5mm Samurai clans with cherry blossom tree
From Lord Ashram's blog

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>>54244716
>5mm
Whoops I meant 6 of course
Me no the brain today

>>54243608
Now I just have to do Fallujah and Bushwars. Anyone have tips on how to make a stand for a smartphone to quickly photograph books? Don't want to fuck up any more of them with the scanner

>>54236905
So what is the kit they just released?

>>54246599
Like half of the stuff or less than what Pro Gloria got sculpted for it.

Also, one entire musket arm per sprue, wow. You can't even make them in two lines, which is a damn shame...it'd need just a second pair of arms holding the musket at rest and I'd have no objections. Also hoping for a second maybe third set with Greatswords, halberds and crossbows.

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>guy on ebay has Pony Wars among few other old rulesets
>is adamant against sending it abroad
>I'm not a Brit

Damn. Well if someone can buy it and scan/resell them to me I would be really gratefull.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/board$pete/m.html?item=192235415571&hash=item2cc21fa813%3Ag%3AL1UAAOSw%7EXpZWNT8&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

>>54246998
Maybe we'll get a new set in 2020 since Warlord needs to release more Bolt Action... I'm not sure why Warlord purchases so many companies for different settings when Bolt Action is their main source of income. In my opinion they expanded too fast everywhere meaning we get mainly Bolt Action with little else sprinkled through the year.

>>54248436
They are like the Caesar/Miniknight of 28mm historicals. Lots of cool stuffs to work with, but it always comes down to WW2 Germans.

>>54248194
I'm not going to get into a bidding war with the rest of /tg/ for pony wars. I've put in a bid on the Urban Violence one though.

>>54236905
>due to Warlord greed

could you explain?

>>54248436
>>54248480
28mm Germans is what sells best apparently. And sales is what they need to release obscure other stuff too. I doubt that Dr. Who game makes them any profit. Yet they released it to please the Dr. Who fanbase.
If it takes 2 more german infantry or tank plastic boxes to finance a 3rd plastic release for an other game, please, more germans.

>>54249172
>28mm Germans is what sells best apparently
If they aren't even trying with anything else, that's hard to judge.

>>54249596
To be fair, there were plenty of other nation releases since the last germans were released.

>>54249172
>WWII Germans is what sells best apparently.
>you try to scratch a living from history
>so true
>cry

>>54216657
>https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/blood-red-skies?utm_source=Warlord+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=e6ddb0e8b1-Blood_Red_Skies_10_July_2017_Launch&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b7e928b4ed-e6ddb0e8b1-132854609&mc_cid=e6ddb0e8b1&mc_eid=ca2c37c13c
Got to admit I'm a little hyped for this. Though it seems pretty expensive.

>>54245038
This is way more than you want: http://digitize.archiveteam.org/index.php/Paper_Media

As is this, linked to from the above: http://www.diybookscanner.org/

But that suggests this as a super-easy option: http://www.instructables.com/id/Bargain-Price-Book-Scanner-From-A-Cardboard-Box/

It's still probably overkill, but that crowd are really invested in helping people scan stuff, in bulk, without damage.

>>54249910
I wonder why they do this when there is wings of glory already.

i'll wait for some reviews and comparisons before getting into either of them

>>54250014
>I wonder why anyone does a ruleset for a period covered by someone else before

>>54249976
Wow. Gives some thougths.

>>54249976
I'll get Over the Top this or next week, will check these links, thanks.

>>54249976
>But that suggests this as a super-easy option: http://www.instructables.com/id/Bargain-Price-Book-Scanner-From-A-Cardboard-Box/


Good bless your little heart anon. You saved mine ass in completely non TG situation.

>>54250118
Its not only a ruleset, its an entire game in exactly the same scale with the same idea: fast paced action.

>>54250560
Don't thank me, thank... well, Jason Scott, probably, at the end of the day, and everyone he's dragged into his obsession.

What are the big historical miniature forums? I only know of Lead Adventure and The Miniatures Page.

>>54250682
That's about it in my experience.

>>54250682
sweetwater

>>54234194
Man, you are my hero. Thanks.

>>54250682
Beyond those two (and I genuinely wish TMP would just die already) It's pretty much just big facebook groups and a bunch of smaller forums. Probably some Yahoo groups still for some godforsaken reason.

>>54253550
What's wrong with TMP besides Armand and the owner with his philipino tranny mods?

>>54253632
The only good thing it serves as is a grognard containment facility. And by that I mean the worst kinds of true grognards, not when we just use the term to mean someone perhaps just a bit too into wargaming.

The content is awful, the system is awful, the inhabitants are awful.

>>54253632
It's antiquated design? Elitism? Board personalities?

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>>54253632
>besides Armand

And shitty site that's pain in arse to browse...

>the owner with his philipino tranny mods
Wat?

>>54254061
>the owner with his philipino tranny mods
you missed this?
The owner, Bill, pays filipino trannies like $0.01 an hour to moderate TMP.

Frankly TMP is a good place to find lots of bloggers. Chances are if someone wants views, they post on TMP and/or LAF

>>54248194
Got a couple of them. What's the best way to contact you once they arrive?

Anyone know of any WW2 or Spanish Civil War rulesets that have a strategic level as well as tactical?

I actually want it for an alt-history campaign set in 1938, but I should be able to adapt SCW or WW2 rules to it

>>54253993
>>54254022
>>54254061
>>54254152

(smile)

Amicalement
Armand

>>54254354
Just send a mail to me at marek.jurko(at)o2.pl Thanks man. What did you get, by the way?

>>54253993
truth. I consider myself a Grognard...but even I wont go there. Place scare the crap out of me.....

>>54254735
>THE NECROMANCER'S BANE and RIOT
Cost me about an hour's labour. I can either post them over or scan them.

>>54254061
I wish >>54254152 was joking but it's true.

He runs some kind of scheme "saving" Filipino trannies. It's creepy as hell.

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>>54255209
I think that a scan that can get added to our repository may help some people further.

If by posting them over (I'm not sure) you mean reselling them, I would go for it as well. It seems I would owe you something along 6 pounds+eternal graditude+postage? In that case I can also scan them myself, through by >>54250560 method.


>>54255273
>Guy runs a shelter-like initiative for oriental-ex-transsexual-gigiolos on antique grogonard message board with resident french autist that does not understand how much he pisses off everyone

Wow. Is John Cleese starring in this sitcom?

>>54255588
Isn't Armand pretty much the only person keeping TMP alive by reposting other peoples stuff?

>>54255642
More like nobody bothers posting there because it gets lost in Armandposting.

>>54255642
I don't open threads at TMP (unless google leads me there) because like half of them is
<photo of diorama>
<compliment>
<signature>

If not for antique layout, it would not be that bad.

>>54255588
Don't forget the odd sexual posturing towards said transsexuals.

Just to confirm, best for Napoleonic ships is Langton?

>>54254361
Ostfront is tactical as well as strategic level. The campaign is part of the main rules. Covers most of the factions of WW2 except for the Finnish. Early war would cover most of the equipment of the SCW, but the Fall Weiss book goes into more detail on early units.

http://www.wargamevault.com/product/191978/Ostfront--Main-Rules

>>54225652
They now have a new ww2 fighter game...which would tank immediately if it weren't for the fact that warlord is offering exclusive 'ace' minis for bolt action with every pre-order.

I rmeber a fighter mini game a few years ago...sank like a brick.

>>54250682
The Wargames Website is pretty cool and comfy.

I nominate this place for /hwg/ to migrate to if 4chan ever dies
http://www.thewargameswebsite.com/

>>54258846
Also notice how they chose 1/200 scale for their aircraft - so they can essentially have a monopoly on the miniature sales too. The only 1/200 aircraft you can really get are passenger jet die cast models.

>>54258164
Ostfront has a strategic campaign mode built in to the rules?

>>54259967
It's in one of the mediafire OP links, check it out.

>>54260015
Will do later

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>>54259967
Yep. Its ideally designed to be played in a campaign with 4 - 5 players operating on a map of Europe and north Africa. The rules are quick and light to allow a few games to be fought in a single night so the campaign can advance. With a regular gaming night once a week it works pretty well and campaigns can last a few months. The campaign rules themselves are also simple and streamlined. Players attempt to seize the means of production, use their supply lines to get troops quickly to the front and still have the freedom to write up any kind of army list they want when it comes time to commit forces to a battle. There's a free-form diplomacy which is pretty fun - secret or open pacts and alliances are all allowed and players can support each other on the tabletop.
There is also a technology race implemented as well which allows players to use slightly more advanced technology if they are able to capture another factions main production and research center. So if the Soviets somehow stomp another faction early in the war, they may get the technology to cheaply produce T-34s, or a German player in mid war may get the ability to produce a late war vehicle like the Jagdpanther or King Tiger.

Ostfront isn't always very kind to heavy tanks though - they tend to be extremely expensive as rarity and cost of production and maintenance is factored into the points value. In the end the game is all about combined arms and balanced army lists will perform the best.

Does anyone have a scan of or have experience with Charlie Don't Surf by TFL? I'm considering diving into 'nam for the first time.

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>>54249172
>>54249722

truly they are the spess muhreenz of WW2

...still want those plastic SS though

>>54255273
>>54255834

god, I'm really glad that /tg/ is anonymous so we don't have to deal with the kind of nonsense I hear about from almost every other tabletop "community".

whom I "rescue" to "moderate" my "website" is none of your concern

>>54245038
>Bushwars

I've been looking everywhere for that one, you would become my hero as well

>>54255273
>He runs some kind of scheme "saving" Filipino trannies. It's creepy as hell.
I mean, there are ways to support the welfare of foreign transpeople without being a creepy scumbag, but he just dives right in and does everything in the shittiest way possible, because he's wanking under the table.

https://transpinayhelper.blogspot.co.nz/2017/06/love-in-digital-age-part-i.html

Also unless that's a fake pic, outing his "supporting members."

>>54258949
Don't forget that it'll be on a dice/card system like Test of Honor so if you were interested in the planes for whatever reason, you've got to buy them along with all the extra stuff.

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>>54262366
>We can talk for hours and never be bored. We can just stare at each other, and one of us just smiles and the other smiles back. He is busy with his business so there are times that I fall asleep while we're on cam, it's crazy!

I dont want to shit up the thread but jfc how is this not satire

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>>54262860
>So finally we saw each other on cam through a videocall. I was like "OMG that's him!" as I whispered silently.
Truth is stranger than fiction.

>>54261439
>tfw I have all the FoF expansions on the shelf but digitalizing them would be too fucking time consuming
Lads, if there'll be one single one that needs to be obtained, I'll buy the pdf for you.

Pike and Shotte 1672-1721 Army List Data Base

https://psdatabase.wordpress.com/

>>54262860
>>54263163
>he lives with his mother

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>>54260671

Another anon interested here.

>>54248436
I just want more medieval Japs, man.

>>54262860
>>54263163
That's not the owner of TMP.

He looks like this:
http://theminiaturespage.com/member/profile.mv?id=Editor%20in%20Chief%20Bill

http://theminiaturespage.com/twga/bill.mv
Seems like a fairly clean-cut Mormon type who used to write conan RPGs and worked on GURPS etc.
Philippines do provide a lot of cheap labor and it is unusual that the mods seem to be transsexual but I have no idea what the deal is there. I'm doubt if he was creepy etc. the editors would still work for him after all this time. Plus he said he had to let a lot of them go recently.

>>54264351
>I'm doubt if he was creepy etc. the editors would still work for him after all this time. Plus he said he had to let a lot of them go recently.

...Yeah he fired them for not doing as told.

>>54264718
Or because their dicks was bigger than his.

>>54263345
Well, Fallujah and Bushwars are missing, like I mentioned before.

Anyone have the Aetius & Arthur Rules for saga as a pdf?

>>54250682
Forums are dead at this point. Facebook has taken over and there are groups to alot of games as well as "general" ones for historicals or specific periods. And most of these groups have more members than both forums combined.

>>54262852
Thats the X-Wing system and it works extremely well there.

>>54266803
>facebook groups
oh boy, get ready for suspiciously enthusiastic third reich players and general bullshitry.

I prefer to stay here, on a dead Siamese shadow theater image board or Something Awful, a dead gay comedy forum.

>>54264351
>That's not the owner of TMP.
Yeah. It's one of his regular users/advertisers/supporting members.

>>54266997
Really the two best choices.

LAF's cool, they just intimidate me with quality. TWW looks decent, if new, but the mobile site is just slightly weird to read on my screen, so I skip it.

15% OFF Discount Code:

INVASIONOFBRITAIN

Applies to Warlord Games products only.
One use per customer. Expires 6th August 2017.

>>54267935
Oh, and there is also a code for 10 gbp

£10 OFF Discount Code:

JULYFREE10-sf2fe533

Applies to any single Warlord Games product.
UK store only. Expires 6th August 2017.

>>54268574
>>54267935
Where do you get these? My emails seldom give me anything.

>>54269192
Just got newsletter emails today. I was surprised that i got the 10 gbp coupon a couple of minutes after the 15% off one (which apparently is one everyone should get).

I haven't bought anything from Warlord directly in a while (skipped the 50%-sprue sale) so that might be the reason why they gave me the coupon.

>>54269192
If you're using gmail, Warlord's emails get sorted into the "Promotions" tab, so you don't see them unless you look for them

>>54269520
>there are people who didn't turn off that shitty feature the moment it switched over to
Did not get one either.

>>54269590
here is another one if you need it:

£10 OFF Discount Code:

JULYFREE10-eb3aastc

Applies to any single Warlord Games product.
UK store only. Expires 6th August 2017.

>>54261439
I can't even handle non-anonymous message boards anymore.
4chan gave me the sweet taste of freedom years ago and I can't go back.

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When your latest impulse buy comes in the mail

Will probably play kriegspiel first. It's the shortest one and the only one I didn't really want. Mostly got this lot for Third Reich and Bull Run.

>>54271596
I'll take Kriegspiel off your hands if you don't want it

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>>54271596
is it "that" kriegspiel?

>>54271698
I mean it has a picture of a tank on the front so I assume not.

>>54271658
I mean, I want it because I like collecting games, but I didn't buy the lot for it. Reading about it makes it seem like a very unremarkable game though. I've only seen one widely released wargame with a lower average score on BGG (The Civil War 1991 by FCA).

>>54271698
That's Kriegsspiel, not Kriegspiel (but maybe it's the same in German)

>>54271743
Ah. I was hoping it was a reskin of the original Prussian one

Pike and Shotte 1672-1721 Army List Data Base

https://psdatabase.wordpress.com/

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Well it took almost a month to get acquire everything I needed with busy schedule, but finally the figures are ready to play. I wasn't expecting it to be this satisfying to have a bunch of little soldiers standing around, altho I always lowed army men.

>have to wait till weekend for playing partner

>>54271053
Yeah, like calling someone a faggot here is much safer.

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>>54272448
Welcome to the fold anon
What game you gonna play?

Right lads what would be the best choice using the warlord voucher, the Finnish infantry squad or the Italian one?

>>54272560
Options were Operation Squad and 5 Men in Normandy. Playmate liked the idea of character personalities so we are going with 5 Men.

>>54272572
Italian.

>>54271698
>>54271778
>>54271743
Is there a way to buy the original kriegsspiel

>>54274445
TooFatLardies sell a version. You can also get 'free' kriegsspiel from a few different places, e.g. http://www.professionalwargaming.co.uk/160604-KriegsspielDSNotes-Mouat-O.pdf

Note 'free' does not refer to money in this sense but rather it refers to the rules design.

>>54253550
>some godforsaken reason.
Grogs, it's always grogs

>>54272651
was thinking that but from what I have read they have an incorrect squad size which requires extra men whilst the finnish one is correct for mid war

I wonder if Blood Red Skies will be compatible with Bolt Action. Since they're throwing in FAO teams with them, it seems possible. Like you play a game of BRS to deliver your air strike.

>>54249910
>>54250014
>>54250118
>>54250604
Given that Wings of Glory is about two to four aircraft, and Blood Red Skies is including 25 aircraft in a single bundle, I feel like BRS is going to be more about engagements of squadrons and flights rather than small skirmishes like WoG

ASLAnon are you here?

>>54275478
yup im around. whats up?

>>54274547
It could be worse. Half the RPG community decided that Google Plus was the way to go.

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>dat Predator solitaire scenario in FoF:Classified
Nice
Cool to see Mirbat there too

When painting camo do you guys generally find it easier to begin with the lightest shade and add darker ones, or begin with the darkest shade and then add lighter ones?

>>54281290
I paint camo "in order of appearance". If it's creme blobs on camo green, I won't paint the whole thing creme and outline some blobs then paint the red with camo green.

>>54281722
FoW is actually big enough to sustain its own general, anon; you could try asking there:
>>54189522

>>54281740
Shit

Noob BA question: what are the advantages of the soviet scout and assault engineer squads? Are they worth having?

>>54281290

Vehicles or figures? Generally the answer is the same and I find it easier to paint from the back to the front, i.e base first and then blobs. If possible paint dark over light. In cases like SS pea-dot it would be masochistic to try and paint the tiny light dots first and then paint dark around them.

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>>54281290
'Bottom up', so in the example of pic related I would do green first, then brown, then tan and finally black

>>54281877
Scouts:
They have the hidden deployment rule so they can be placed on the battlefield before the game starts. That can be a nice advantage. Also they can be armed with smgs and i think they are veterans too.

Engineer squads can include flame-throwers and they can wear body armor making them very hard to kill (and also very slow, so they need a transport).
I'd rate them more situational than the scouts, but if you bring them into a good position, they are very tough.

>>54271743
Without a second "s" its not a real german word.
Kriegspiel is just the literal translation of wargame into german by someone without knowledge of german grammar rules.

>>54283225
Or as a way to differentiate it from the historical game while still referencing it.

Do you think that the Spanish Tercios were as unbeatable as they seem or just meme?

>>54283265
What are you talking about?

>>54283297
They remained unbested until... S.XVII, I think?

>see the newly released Kurt Knispel miniature at Warlords newsletter
>remember the coupons in the thread

>No Discount Codes!
Sorry, this product is already such a good deal that we cannot accept discount codes on it.

Fuck ;_;

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>>54283265
I don't know about "unbeatable" but they certainly earned their reputation fairly. At the time when combined arms (i.e. pike and shot) was becoming a big deal, they were the cutting edge. Regimental pride had a lot to do with it too. We have a couple of good books on the general subject in the Horse & Musket folders.

>>54283225
isn't that "kriegs" is plural for "krieg"? so ain't that
"kiregspiel"- wargame and "kriegsspiel" warsgame?
i haven't spoke german since highschool, so like 10 years ago, but that one of things that i remember.

>>54283739
The plural of Krieg is Kriege.

The extra 's' is part of the conjunction process, like for example in Reichstag the component words are 'Reich' (Empire/state) and 'tag' (Diet, in this context).

>>54283829
I just realised that was a bad example because it only has one s.

Ignoriere mich, Ich sauge Schwänze.

>>54283860
And Sauerkraut to you as well, my friend!

I've learned German for six years, but not much remained in my head....but "Pudel Bimbi aus Wien" stays like the memory of a long lost love.

Tho since I've started to indulge in /hwg/, I got a bit more interested in learning the language.

>>54284473
Oh I used to study German in University.
My favourite was "Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof".

>>54284856
>Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof
funny enough, that is also somewhat /hwg/ related if you look up the origins

So because that tranny-loving fuck went on a vacation, only "supporting members" (those who pay money to the forum) can post on TMP.

What the everloving fuck.

>>54283200

Thanks chap. I've ordered both with anon's code.

>>54286947
They are worth it for the nice sculpts alone in my opinion. The scouts in particular are great.

Anyone have the Aetius & Arthur Rules for saga?

>>54286790
Glad you liked it my friend!. (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

Anyone here that owns Forged in Battle miniatures? I wouldn't mind trying some Ceasarian Romans but they're also releasing Late Romans soonish.

>>54287507
Yeah I've got some republican Romans, Gauls and Greeks. They're really nice sculpts.

>>54269225
Thats pretty much how it works really, i didnt buy anything for two months and now i also have a code. It is almost as if they are rewarding you for not buying stuff and punishing you by not giving free stuff when you buy regularly.

>>54271596
Ok I just played Kriegspiel. As unremarkable as I anticipated. The only angle it might have is it being approachable for new wargamers (which is what's printed all over the box and description). But even then, there are far better games for that purpose these days (Waterloo and other early AH, block wargames, AVL).

>>54287543
Do you have some painted? I'd love to see them!

>>54287605
and I forgot to add, which should I play next? But other than Guns of August or Third Reich. Not in the mood for that kind of counter density right now.

>>54286790
What?

I mean, they close internet forum while away?


>Groooogs

>>54287620
I do but not with me sadly. Where I live currently I only have a fraction of my manz.

There should be plenty of images on LA or somewhere for them though. I can say what I have are really nice figures.

>>54286790
Does that mean the Trannies have also gone on vacation?

>>54287101
Anon you're triggering me please stop.

>>54287507
I kickstarted them for some early Achaemenids and can back up what >>54287543 said.

>>54286790
>>54289547
>implying his vacation isn't just travelling to molest them in person instead of just online

>>54286790
>So because that tranny-loving fuck went on a vacation, only "supporting members" (those who pay money to the forum) can post on TMP.

The reasons he gave for restricting posting are complete BS because the troublemakers are typically supporting members.

I'm guessing he's hoping that free members will actually be forced to become supporting members because he effectively "banned" everyone else from posting for 2 weeks.

LAV-75

Give me your imagi-nations, /hwg/, I want them for some mercenary air stuff

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>>54294348
Well I don't have any myself, but there are some really cool ones developed in the Advanced Recon RPG, and we recently acquired Skirmish Afrika which has a whole continent of them.

>>54294348
>tfw literally working on a mercenary/sky pirates fiction novel

>>54294348
Someone (praise them) bought /hwg/ the Skirmish Afrika supplement for Skirmish Sangin, which basically redoes Africa as imaginations. Might be worth a look for you.

>>54294348
There's also the Nordic Games imagination generator book, which I don't think we have.

>>54295285
>>54294916
wait, is Sangin one of those "always gets taken down" things? Because I don't see Afrika in the Modern folder.

>>54295313
Check the last couple of /hwg/ threads, it was posted directly and may not have made it into a trove yet.

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>>54295313
>wait, is Sangin one of those "always gets taken down" things? Because I don't see Afrika in the Modern folder.
Correct
Original rules:
https://mega.nz/#!DtVXyDAL!mLc_38BtPl3Y7uFgGRc6eGmWczKvDywFr4AApTtrbNY
Afrika:
https://mega.nz/#!W51XBSbI!vQzcc4rM6JhhPv8jHHOAwofe4VHWiiNpr2Z7-i7Jz8Q

Back to the more practical topics.
Warlord British Infantry, WWII, the 25 dudes box.

How can I assemble a squad to look more veteran than regular dudes? I though about giving them all camo helmets and no backpacks, maybe add some ammo or grenade bandoliers. I had a recommendation to give them greenstuff berets instead. Thoughts? At least the British Battledress 39-61 Osprey isn't showing much.

>>54295377
>Afrika:
Mom and dad, UK distribution team
oh grogs

>>54295389
Unless you're going for a specific theme I would just get the Airbourne box?

>>54296231
Why is this a question? Who can answer this but you?

>>54296231
I'm going for the "I have this box now, what do" theme. I want to be able to visually distinguish vets from regular doods.

>>54296237
It's 1 AM and I just had ramen for dinner my life is too sad to care about punctuation.

>>54296244
I would do the no backpacks thing then, just be sure to give all your regulars backpacks.

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>>54295285

Yeah we do, anon.

>>54294607
Please post it at any time. (even half-way done)

>>54296799
OK, what folder was that in?

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>>54295389

During WW2 only the Tank Corps, Paras, Commandos and RAF Regiment wore proper berets. You could try to model the similar, slightly floppier 'General Service Cap' (see pic) if you're aiming for mid to late war.

>>54295389
M8, if they are veterans, they'd know that helmets save lives.

Don't think they'd need much distinction, just call them vets and that's it.

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>>54296891
With the exception of the original Five Men In Normandy I think we don't have any of Ivan's stuff in our folders, so that contribution was from the anon's own stash

>>54296923
Spot on.

>>54296891

In the "Strategic Mercenary Air War Campaign" folder of my toaster ...
I've no idea why this one wasn't in the regulars.

>>54296923
>Alouette III helicopter in what looks like Rhodesian combat deployment
Going to have to watch that film...

>>54295389
I'd say camo helmets, no backpacks, bandoleers for ammo and grenades and as much "liberated" equipment as you can find (shovels and pickaxes for reasonable digging equipment seems to have been popular)

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>>54296945
It's not very good anon, but it does have Christopher Lee and a lot of Rhodie porn

>>54296962
>shovels and pickaxes
That have been shoved THROUGH a backpack, a thing you said not to put on them?

>>54297009
Well, I haven't seen the actual kit (ww2 in 28mm? no thanks), so was just offering suggestions. Also I am fairly certain that they could figure out some other way to carry them, and that other manufacturers provide shovels free from backpacks..

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>>54295389
perhaps cut down the amount of equipment on them so its more like a "belt pack" like in pic related - just a bed roll and few essentials hung on the belt

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>>54294348
I have this island nation that I made for a fivecore game I never got around to finishing.

Standard post-colonial democracy overthrown by military coup which installed a dictator. Currently fighting a low-level insurgency composed of a mix of army defectors, pro-democracy rebels and local tribesmen who are sick of the new govt appropriating all their land.

>>54297056
If you look it up in the memoirs it's often the vets who have less-because shit is heavy and unusefull.

If someone who does not have to decides to carry needless pickaxe additionaly to his fucking heavy kit, he would think it over few times before becoming ,,a vet".

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>>54297759
The smaller island is also part of the same country, but on the map it would be off the edge so it's shown in an inset.

I did a flag too because I like flags.

>>54297779
You fucking flaggot

>>54295389
my soviet veterans have helmets, the regular and inexperienced ones have just the cap

>>54297779
>>54297759
I like this kinda stuff. How did you create the map?

>>54299412
Gimp using Google Maps as a visual reference for style and colours.

The Google Maps style is actually pretty simple and surprisingly easy to copy effectively.

>>54299393
Funny, i build it the other way around: Veterans with bare heads/caps and the "new" guys with proper gear.

>>54297773

The two-part brit entrenching tool was pretty loathed as well I think. Maybe if anon also has Germans he could gie them captured shovels which were popular.

Or just find a way to make the basing distinct and recognisable. Maybe put the odd enemy weapon or kit on the base to show them in a more 'in battle' way.

>>54301507
Too late, hats are already on.

The kit also has ample shovels, so I could... glue them on the backs, I guess?

>>54268574
Great, I just purchased a Finnish MMG and Finnish Officer & Sniper team for £7 including shipping! Cheaper then a freaking kebab around here.

>>54287543
>>54289867
I suppose I'll order from them in time for Christmas or earlier ;o)

>>54302853
>Cheaper then a freaking kebab around here.
Move

>>54302936
Can't get cheaper kebabs in my country unless you want ratmeat, that the goat was slaughtered in the backroom of the kebabshop or that the sauce was blended in a cementblender.

>>54246998
There were supposed to also come with halberds, advancing arms and a lot more head options. The original pitch was a dream come true.

>>54303914
I honestly don't feel like purchasing the recently released kit since it's so inferior to the original pitch.

>>54303951
I'm still gonna get them for Warhammer.

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Not sure if this belongs in /hwg/ but which system would you guys recommend for playing modern conflicts in the amazon rain forest?

It's pretty much a modern wild west in the with bandits, government agents, illegal loggers/miners, and native tribes all fighting over a vast jungle.

>>54304576
Spectre Operations, Force on Force, Ambush Alley or Skirmish Sangin/Afrika.

>>54304655
Cool, Ill check those out.

>>54302963

You're just describing a kebab shop, aren't you?

>>54234194
True gentleman and a scholar.

Anyone know where to get some good nationalist Chinese models in 28mm? Really want to do a Chinese counter force for my friends Japanese army in bolt action.

>>54304681
Also FiveCore because it does everything.

EVERYTHING.

Seriously I feel like FiveCore is the GURPS of /hwg/ and to a lesser extent /awg/

>>54306867
Huh. I haven't heard of it.

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>>54304655
>>54306867

Also No End In Sight, FiveCore's not actually too related but same developer big brother for fights with more people in. Basically same level as force on force with fireteams as the base unit rather than individuals or full squads. Would recommend over Force On Force because it does the same stuff in a far easier to comprehend manner.

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>>54306347
Just use DAK in shorts, paint them pale blue or pale greenish/yellow

BRDMll

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Bolt Action campaign guy here with an update. 1940 was mostly quiet, with isolated sparring for control, until September, when the Republics of Britain and Ireland finally awoke and began prepping for an invasion of the Scandinavian Confederacy. In the east, Prussian and Soviet forces duel over Budapest and the fields of western Russia

Due to an error in the map copying, an island has been accidentally created in the North Sea with exactly the same shape as the northern coast of Denmark (which went unnoticed until now) The Scandinavian forces have stood on the defenses on this so called Carolus Island, beating back the initial British assault on their beaches, ending in disaster for Britain with nearly 50% casualties

By this point we've established a firm alternate history - while the Soviet Union exists, Trotsky is Premier. The Scandinavian Confederacy, under Finnish leadership, has unified the northern countries, the King was tossed out and a Republic established in Britain, and Prussia is staring at them with apprehension while they fight the Soviets in the east.

>>54306347
The tricky part is that they have German uniforms but they also have those leg wraps like the Japanese do. Brigade games makes some but they are kind of expensive.

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>>54312550
>those leg wraps
Puttees, anon

I want a grass gaming mat for jungle warfare, does anyone have any relatively affordable suggestions, don't feel like spending 100$ on a gaming mat.

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>>54312478
WOW! this is awesome anon. I always loved how ostfront map campaigns made their own unique history and this is no exception.

>A new Island appears
>Scandinavian Confederacy
>Trotsky as Soviet Premiere
YES YES YES

Also good to see all colored pins are the right color.

>>54312733
My favorite thing is that none us noticed the island at all until it became strategically relevant, two full years into the game's run

If you were putting together a faux-wwi game how would you make an adventuring party sized group work? Would urban combat be the way to do it? Is there a good example of something other than the eternal trench tie from that era?

>>54312840
Did you see Wonder Woman?

>>54312848
No, I guess that's my homework assignment?

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>>54312840
Listen to Philip Gibbs "now it can be told"

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYIx7audKFzw4SyvD7Kq3QCjt1BhdEoCB

There's a bunch of WW1 audiobooks I put together during the research for Westfront in this playlist - great inspiration from first hand accounts.

WW1 can be just as exciting and varied as any other period of history.

Choosing other periods apart from the western front could also help - eastern front had a lot of maneuver warfare, the East Africa campaign is full of interesting stuff.

>>54312840
>something other than the eternal trench tie
Really only true of the Western front and Italian front, and I've seen as many as 14 total fronts listed for ww1 in some cases. Off the top of my head there's also the Eastern front, Balkan front, British guerrilla warfare in Arabia and the Levant, the Japanese occupying German islands and cooperating with the Entente to secure the Pacific, and loads of fighting between the British and German colonies in Africa

>>54312840
>Is there a good example of something other than the eternal trench tie from that era?
The East Africa Campaign
Mesotopamia
The fighting in China
The Russian Revolution/Civil War
The 1914 campaigns

>>54312879
About a third of Wonder Woman's screentime is devoted to assembling an Adventuring Party

>>54310168
The thing with NeiS is that it bogs down really quickly because of the funky activation mechanics. Ivan tried to fix it a bit by introducing the ability to activate up to three dudes at once if they did the same single thing (run or shoot). But the reality is many shoot-em-up gamers get frustrated. Not saying it is inaccurate, but NeiS is an acquired taste.

Since this place is probably best to ask about historical miniatures, how do you folks find Victrix Ancients?

I'm wanting to get some Iberian Cavalry, Successor Heavys Cavalry, Successor Pikes and some Hoplites and was wondering if anyone had some experience with them and any pros and cons they may have.

>>54314706
They're excellent miniatures.

Can somebody please give me a > QUICK RUNDOWN of Ostfront?

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>>54306347
Brigade are the best, reiver have a lot but are not great cheap though, using German miniatures as others suggest is not that great as other than the helmets & Mauser's the uniforms are not that similar. Pictures of mine for reference l to r brigade, eureka & reiver.

>>54312720
If you want super cheap you could literally just get some green cloth.

Assuming that for jungle games you're gonna have a high density of terrain on there anyway you'd probably not even notice.

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