Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>54212833
Are Exocrines really that good?

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>>54212854
they are the premier non-FW ranged option for nids. plus it nearly does everything you could possibly need it to solve.

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I'm doing nurgle style pink horrors and can't think of a way to make slightly smaller plaugebearers to represent the blue horrors.
Any tips?

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I'm trying to come up with a guide to movies that really capture the 40k feel for certain factions.

Any good ideas on what to add?

>>54212905
>nurgle style pink horrors
which fucked up daemon of slaanesh possesses you to do this

>>54212907
Are necrons really terminator like? Plus mad max has a lot of imperial themes.

Girlfriend wants to get into /tg/ through SWA. What's a simple, cheap kill team for her to get into the hobby--ignoring Orks, Chaos, Space Marines, Guard, or Tau, as between my friend and I we have KTs for those armies. She wants models for herself, though.

I was thinking a 3 Immortals and 2 Deathmarks, for $33, but any other ideas? How cheap could I start a DE KT for her? Or, because she's a girl, Nids?

>>54212914
My Khorne demons army has slaanesh and khorne rules representing a wide range of converted khorne models and my new nurgle army will have a wide range of nurgle and tzeentch rules representing nurgle models.
The pink horrors are plaugebearers carrying rusty cannons with brimstone horrors made from nurglings.
The two polar gods' rules really synergies well.

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>>54212841
Quick question about the rules:
Why does Every unit orks have the <Clan> but the flash gitz don't?

>>54212931
They don't run with the clan.

>>54212890
Damn.
What would be better then - 6 Hive Guard with Impalers or an Exocrine?

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>>54212907
dark angels

>>54212915
Anything with armies of mummies is more necron like. Terminator doesn't have anything to do with necrons other than featuring a robot.

>>54212931
Because Flash Gitz are freebootas who have specifically left their clans (or, more accurately, were thrown out for hording their teef).

Welcome to the green tide, WAACfriend.

>>54212937
Yeah but they are the ONLY one that don't have it, like couldn't they have put <Freebooters>???
Cos now, they lose a shit tons of abilities that requires to be in a CLAN

>>54212938
honestly it depends on your list, exocrines are excellent at taking heat off your other monstrous creatures.

>>54212907
Apocalypse Now I think gives really good Imperial Guard vibes. Edge of Tomorrow gave me a strong storm trooper feeling too.

>>54212907
Mutant Chronicles and judge dread.

>>54212951
that's the point. They're not part of a clan so they don't receive clan bonuses

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>>54212915
>Are necrons really terminator like? Plus mad max has a lot of imperial themes.
Noted, and they are unstoppable killing machines made of metal. The 'crons, especially the old ones, barely hid their terminator origin.

>>54212940
10/10, added.

The Tau Facebook group I am a part of has been planning giving GW feedback.

>>54212979
You're gonna wait for one of us to ask you to say what, right?

>>54212956
I'll guess i'll post it then, can always use more feedback
>HQ
Tyrant: Wings, Boneswords, Deathspitter w/Maggots - 206
Tervigon - 250

>Troops
30x Termagaunts: 10 Devs - 160
30x Hormagaunts - 150
30x Hormaguants - 150
3x Warriors: Swords + Spitters - 96
6x Rippers - 66

>Elite
Lictor - 45
Lictor - 45
6x Hive Guard: Impalers - 288
Maleceptor - 184

>Heavy
Trygon - 175
Trygon - 175
1999/2000

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>>54212979
>Tau Facebook

>>54212999
Unless your MCs are melting, id stick with the hive guard.

>>54212915
>>54212942
Being this new. We'll be back.

>>54212854
Not really, but they're the best single model anti-vehicle unit tyranids have. I guess they're about as good as a Leman Russ?

I am working on a 40k style ruleset that more appropriately matches crunch to fluff but only really know about human fluff (imperial and chaos) and now need to move onto xenos and demons.
Can I please get a rundown on how powerful a individual of each of the factions is compared to a guardsman/civilian and marine? Also how powerful the tech is. Plus marine to guard comparison to make sure I'm doing it right.

How difficult are Tau to assemble and paint? I'm a Warhammer newfag and I have a space marine army. I'm trying to decide what army to make next.

>>54212982
>In light of the Codex announcement from GW today, I figured now would be a good time to act on behalf of the greater good. Overall we have roughly 5500+ Tau players/hobbyists in this group and as an Admin I consistently see people's opinions (some of which I agree with) pertaining to the point costs of units, broken rules, lack of firepower in our units, etc. and as a group if we want to see changes we have to propose changes to GW in both an intelligent and reasonable manner. Ex: The riptide should cost x points because of y and z instead of it's current point cost. (As opposed to) The riptide is bullshit and should be shelved because it's point cost makes me want to put a fork in my eye. Now more than ever proposing these changes to GW en masse is important because our codex is still in development and it's clear GW is open to suggestions.

mob time

>>54213006
Obligatory right back at ya, remark

>>54213028
The new stuff (suits and fire warriors) are pretty easy but older stuff tends to be harder.

>>54212925
a team of 3 tyranid warriors is decent and works from just one kit.
DE could be done with either of their infantry kits.


maybe just take her into a store, or read through some books. let her pick based on looks and theme.

>>54213028
Tau are simple and pretty easy to work with

As a heavily combat chaos marine army I for one am happy to see tau get their shit kicked in for once even if this new edition sliced my balls off too.

>>54213028
if you're asking because you don't feel like you can build and paint space marines then you're asking for the wrong reasons, keep building/painting you'll get better.

If you're confident in your skill then no models are impossible to build and learning new building skills will only serve to make your models look better.

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>>54212964
>Mutant Chronicles
Unfamiliar with that one.

>>54212961
>Edge of Tomorrow
The power suits are also pretty damn close to space marines.

>>54212931
>BS 4+
What?

>>54213084
Flash Gitz are shootier orks than most and their expensive snazzgunz have better aim.

>>54213041
>>54213043
>>54213060

Thanks for the input. I mentioned my space marines just to let you know I already had them so they wouldn't get suggested to me. I'm happy with how they came out.

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>>54213038
Couldn't make it past 'as an Admin'.

Man you faggots always crack me up.

>>54213062
Alien is closer to GSC than nids.

>>54213038
They really that upset that riptides are unplayable when every one else got some unplayable units to? But they will go so far as to ask for hand outs from Daddy because they are fucking Tau players and feel the need to be on top again? The Chaos space marine index is still One hundred and one fucking joke book.

>>54213007
Thanks anon

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Wip soulgrinder armour plate, nurgle theme.. wanting it to be quick and easy! Thoughts? Couldn't find a WIP thread :(

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>>54213062
Space Wolves

>>54213102
This one tau player, after beating me in a game I might add, had the audacity to tell me that the chaos marine index was completely bullshit and that the tau needed a much needed buff to become competitive.

Can a unit like >>54212931 Flash Gitz fight in melee even without a melee weapon?

>>54213123
Yes

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>>54213116
looks like a green plate covered in doodoo. pay more attention to the ridges where abrasion and therefore rust would occur

>>54213128
How? Do they just use a profile of WS3+, S5, A3, D1?

>>54213116
Looking good anon, if you wanted to put a bit more work in then edge highlight the green as well as around the washed edges and then edge highlight the gold with either copper or silver (depending on how bright).

>>54213121
I have a friend who played them ATC and still plays them now, He changed his list to be more crisis suit, drone, and infantry heavy. I have never in my life seen that much Tau shit on table in my life Because infantry Tau. And he whooped my ass and was like fucking suits so expensive man. After dropping in crisis squads that wipe my entire squad of ruses.

>>54213084
>>54213091
Orks always being incapable of shooting straight is a fairly new thing. The first two codices had quite a few with BS3+, shit, the original warboss statline had him at BS6!

>>54213123
Yes, of course. You just use their Strenght and attacks, they have no ap and do 1 damage.

>>54213134
Yes

>>54213148
Thank you, anon. You spoonfed me and didn't even call me names!

>>54213142
Yeah it really doesn't make sense that they are less likely to be able to hit then do so. It's not like conscripts where they might be frightened or something but really, 5+ is a bit pathetic.

>>54213136
okay will do! Thanks

>>54213132
>>54213116
Rust also forms where paint is chipped so bullet holes or other battle damage that would expose bare metal. but yeah rust on a bunch of paint is kind of weird.

>>54213155
No problem, Anon

>>54212979

Good for you I guess? Can't say I hope you succeed because I personally am happy with the way things are, but I can sympathize with wanting to talk with gw about some of the things they fucked up. They fucked my guys as well, but we arent organized or autistic enough to start a shit fit like you Tau players are. I'd like you to get something that makes you happy, but to be quite frank you guys were broken, and if you want a return to that then I can't help but hope you fail.

>>54213159
They're less likely to hit because they just point their guns at the enemy and spray fire.

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>>54213038
>muh riptide spam isn't good anymore GW plz fix
taufags, everyone

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I haven't kept up with any 40k shit since they announced primaris. What have I missed? Is there any models leaked?

Are we happy?

>>54212801
Something-Something a Whirlwind LoSblocking a thunderfire with the tech-priest repping it.

>>54212931
>tfw opponent rolls a 6 after shooting
>rolls again afterwards
>uses a CP reroll
>it's a 6
>roll again aftewards
>6

Talk about a short game, fuck you Max

Reposting from last thread before I go to bed.

Any /kiwi/ fags here who want to play a game tomorrow? Long shot I know but we have had kiwifags here before.

>>54213020
I'd say fluff wise its about 10 guardsmen to one tactical marine.
A chaos marine and tac marine are eqaul but the CSM is unreliable.The CSM should be able to pull of more but is more likely to fail hard. Eg both centre the same but CSM has wider range both way.

>>54213199
>force 6 5++ saves
>opponent makes all of them without any re-rolls
The dice gods are assholes at times.

>>54213228
Fluffwise a single Marine is supposed to be worth more than 1000 guardsmen.

>>54212931
it's in their lore that they are expelled or left on their own

>>54213194
is tg ever happy?

>>54213194
>Are we happy?
>no plastic aspect warriors
>no fem primaris
>no catgirl regiment
>Are we happy?
Never

>>54213228
>>54213235

FlUfFwIsE A SiNgLe mArInE Is SuPpOsEd To Be WoRtH MoRe ThAn OnE ToWsAnd gWaDsMen!

>>54212854
I guess but they're easy to abuse. I managed to kill my.opppnents synapse so the exocrine was forced to shoot the closest target which happened to.be my rhinos I'd positioned. It shot at two rhinos all game and only managed to kill one. The other got line breaker.

Nids are pretty low tier still.

>>54213235
only a commander surely? surely if the guard attacked in unison it would be less>

>>54213251
>no fem primaris
>im legitimately disappointed by this

>>54213255
I think I broke it.

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>>54213091
>>54213084
If you put several sights on yer gun, ya gonna shoot betta!
(it probably represents more bullets fired without wasting time on more lore-friendly 200 dice per turn)

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> Want to get a Stormraven based on stats
> Official model looks retarded

What's a good proxy that is similar in size/shape and isn't ridiculously expensive?

>>54212907

Event horizon for Imperium/Chaos.

>>54213275
Alien for nids too

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>>54213251
>Non plastic models in 2017

Yeah fuck that.

>>54213247
Good point

>>54213268
They're the richest of the rich that have dedicated their entire existence to building a big loud gun, they've lived for long enough to become nobz and are successful mercenaries sought out by important warbosses up to and including ghazghkull. Surely throughout all that they would've learned to shoot better than the common or garden ork boy.

>>54213264
It takes decades to even "make" a marine, a guardsman might get a year of training if they're lucky.

Marines are equipped with some of the best equipment the Imperium can offer, guardsmen get flak armor, a lasgun, and a simple kit.

Guardsmen are deployed in the tens of thousands, Marines might deploy a thousand in particularly large actions and take on forces significantly larger than their own.

Granted, it varies wildly depending on what GW wants to write a the time but to say a marine is only worth 10 guardsmen is a bit silly. I'd say a scion is worth 10 guardsmen. A marine at very least is with 100 guardsmen, more if they're a named character.

>>54213309

>It takes decades to even "make" a marine

Wrong

>>54213309
What about marine v cron or guardian?

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This is the most amount of discussion orks have received in a general all week. Please continue, ladz

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Real heretic hours.

Whom up?

>>54213340

SPEAKING OF FUCKING ORKS. Girlfriend was on Fanfiction.net the other day and I told her to look up Warhammer 40k erotic and there was one about a Ork Warboss named like Dick-Slaga Cum-spitta. I'll try and find it. I was pissing myself.

>>54213338
Guardians are literally just citizen levies, they'd be comparable to scions at best just because "muh superior eldar physiology". Your average necron is just a soulless metal shell that makes up for a lack of skill by being really hard to kill and having powerful technology.

>>54212841
>le jew maymay
kys

>>54213329
It varies from chapter to chapter, I mean space wolves remain blood claws until they work out their aggression. Granted decades isn't correct but it still takes a lot more to make a marine than a guardsman.

>>54213356
I need this

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>>54213356

>>54213251

yiff in hell, furfag

>>54213274

The Stormraven looks fine

>>54213358
I thought guardians were pretty powerful? Plus eldar are all about keeping everyone a'ive so why bring out only citizens.

>>54213062
No hellraiser for Dark Eldar?

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>>54213345
3:43 AM HERETIC COHORT

>>54213390
>Plus eldar are all about keeping everyone a'ive so why bring out only citizens
Those are wraith constructs at completely different unit. Again Guardians are literally just civilian levies, they often haven't even walked the Path of the Warrior yet.

>>54213376

Guardsmen gets say a year of training.
Marine recruitment for say space wolves was that the the recruit was already a hero among mortals. A real tough guy. They come down and hit him with that dog juice and he becomes a marine the minute he is recovered. Blood claw or not. So arguably It takes a shorter time to make a marine it's just that selection is more specific and so that's why there are less.
Example:
Say corn takes the year to grow but it is every where.
Super rock and roll plant takes a month to grow but there is only a few of them on the whole earth. And it's better than the corn in every way, quality over quantity ya know.

So I'm building some Arbites, mostly just for fun and because I have the spare bits laying around, but now that I'm doing it I kinda want to use them. Any recommendations on what I could proxy that hem as? Or maybe a little help making a stat block for them?

>>54213380
>dats not a squig
Me sides ya git

>>54213345
Yea cannnnn I get uhhhhhhhh some Loyalist?

LOYALIST MACHINE BROKEN

>>54213420
Custom minis, custom rules. That's what I say.

How fucked are my orks? Last 2 editions I ran a squad of ten lootas, ghaz, a mekboy with that tellyporta gun. The rest of the list was shoota boyz in trukks with a pk nob and one rokkit boy

>>54213419
Depends if you count scouts and various non-codex initiates as full marines.

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>>54213419
I'd say 5-8 years is a fair estimate range for the creation of a space marine.

>>54213430

What would you recommend for the stat blocks then? Their a mix of power mauls and shotguns at the moments. Most have riot shields. Honestly I'm thinking of having them with similar stats to crusaders out of the ministorum part of the index.

>>54213432
Small units of boyz outside specialists like Lootas are useless. You're better off slogging shootas or putting them in a wagon. Nobz and specialists (like burnas) fit just fine in trukks.

>>54213084
Old Flashgitz could buy a scope/sights to get a +1 to hit. So in 8th they're just implied to all have that instead of making it a wargear option.

So a tac squad can take on a whole imperial company plus armored accompaniment. But guardian = guardsman.

>>54213446

>SMCreation.jpg

Just what we needed

>>54213455
Guardians are civilians, handed weapons and pressed into service. You want Aspect Warriors and Dire Avengers.

>>54213084
>>54213142
>>54213091
Along with the rules for Heavy weapons that BS4+ quite elegantly represents the gitfinda. Previously the gitfinda gave them +1 to hit if they didn't move, so snazzguns (which were Assault weapons in 7th) hit on a 4+ if you stood still and a 5+ if you moved. Now in 8th, snazzguns hit on a 4+ if you stand still or a 5+ if you move.

>>54213467
>>54213455

I didn't see a single guardian all 7th...

Rough times.

>>54212907
The necrons and tau movie is the invasion of naboo scene you know exactly what part I'm talking about too.

>>54213457
I cnba to change the file name.

>>54213455
>So a tac squad can take on a whole imperial company plus armored accompaniment.

We've had individual marines hold off literally thousands of cultists/orks/whathave you for several days on their own. The individual powerlevel of different units varies depending on whatever GW wants it to.

>>54213478
Windriders are guardians.

Anyone know where I can get my hands on just the chaos side of Dark Vengance for a reasonable price?

>tfw no Death Guard reveals happened on 7/7/17

>>54213452
Do you think special weapons in boyz are worth it still? PK or Big Choppa on boyz nob?

>>54213505
I responded to this comment yesterday and here I am again

>tfw you have no face

How are dark eldar? Haven't played them since 6th, any good this time around

>>54213521
I ran a few boss Nobz with PK and a few boss Nobz with BC the other day. I personally think it's hard to give up 7ST st WS3+, but a PK is a PK.

Depending on your opponent you might even just run a choppa and save yourself a lotta points.

>>54213282
>all those (You)s
>he screencapped his own post
Shamfur dispray.

>>54213494

No they are windriders...

>>54213529
Yes.

Venom spam, as ever.

Ravagers are also decent, alongside scourges.

>>54213529

I'm told by my DE buddy that 8th was kind to them and they are viable again.

>>54213538
>Windrider Jetbike Squads - Those Guardians who pilot Eldar Jetbikes into battle are known as Windriders. Windriders

>>54213545
Ur gae

>>54213497
Are they already off ebay?

>>54213490
Yeah, but they hold off thousands by fighting them a few at a time. It's not like they can do that in a pitched firefight. Even if a tactical squad is only as good as one regiment of guard, it's a regiment you can fit in a rhino or drop pod.

Can someone post a good source or even explain the difference in power between the common footsoldiers of each army FLUFF wise as I want to turn it into a homebrew crunch. Thanks.

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>>54212907

This, if you opened a portal to a pocket dimension of a Haemonculus Coven.

>>54213345
Let me get a TAINTLESS legionnaire

>>54213345
Wat the meme mean

>>54213563
I hate to be That Guy but desu I do prefer how the book went over the movie in that the cenobites weren't borderline Chaotic Stupid. Protagonist says "Hey ur dude is up and attem here on earth. If I take you to him, will you take him back? You can take his dumb girlfriend, too." they say "Sure", she does her part, they take them, and they leave Protagonist alone since she kept her word. They weren't really all that evil, unlike in the movie where they just decide to be assholes because reasons.

With that said, the movie did some things better, like having Protagonist as the daughter instead of beta-female best friend.

>>54213596

Go to bed child

>>54213380
Orks do have penises, you know. They use them to urinate.

Footslogger or trukk O'rks?

>>54213630
Footslog only if you have well over a hundred boyz

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>>54212907
Hunter Prey

>>54213562
Conscript: guy with a gun who can't shoot straight
Guardsman: guy with a gun
Ork: guy with a gun who just won't die
Fire Warrior: guy with a much better gun
Guardian: guy with a much better gun
Veteran: guy with a gun that performs as well as much better gun and is REAL good at staying alive
Kabalite: guy with a much better gun, fast enough to dodge bullets (compare: a ninja with a machinegun)
Sister of Battle: girl with a much better gun, in power armor (compare: two men in a jeep with a machinegun)
Aspect Warrior: guy with a much, much better gun, who can dodge bullets (compare: a ninja dual-wielding two machineguns and a lightsaber)
Space Marine: super guy with a much, much better gun, in power armor (compare: a battle tank)
Chaos Space Marine: see space marine
Necron Warrior: super robot with a much, much, much better gun, who won't die (compare: two battle tanks)

>>54213038
this is fucking sad. tau finally get balanced and immediately the autistic screeching starts.

honestly I hope gw raises the price of the riptide further just to piss in your cheerios.

>>54213569
A slaneshi marine with a vag instead of a D but it's ripped to the anus due to demon pregnancy and birthgiving?

>>54213548
Not him but get fucked LOL

>>54213562
Really? I think your best bet will be to read everything you can on the factions you want to work on. That is much better than second-hand hearsay from tg.

>>54213596
black people

>>54213650
I threw up in my mouth a bit.

>>54212999
>999

How do you like your Maleceptor? Ever feel like 6 more Warriors or three cheap carnifexes might be an option?

I don't have a Maleceptor but I'm looking for a reason to build and field one because they're likely my fav bug of the last few waves.

>>54213639
Can I just buy 100 bases and ask my opponent that they count as O'rks? There is no Wysiwyg rule.

>>54213562
GW fluff is wildly inconsistent. Even the stuff that's competently written.

>>54213649
Tau player here.
All this is on top of the fact that Riptides are "Just good" now.
Like seriously they're pretty amazing by most standards.

>>54213672
There's nothing stopping you from asking your opponent anything.

>>54213672
Not this shit again

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Why doesn't Gabriel Seth or any other Flesh Tearers have the Black Rage special rule? I thought they were the most ferocious and bloodthirsty the Blood Angels had.

Sorry if these are stupid questions, I don't have my books in me, only battlescribe.

Does Pask count as a character ?(so he can't be targeted)

Does power level allow you to take the max amount of models in whatever unit you are building?

>>54213689
Pask has 12 wounds, read the rulebook.

>>54213420
IG vets with shotguns.

or inquisition acolytes.

>>54213689
Powerlevel does not let you max out a unit for free, you pay for take them in blocks. So if you have a 5 man squad that costs 4pl and you want to take 6 models in the squad you have to pay as if you were taking 10 models. Check the units profile, it'll say how much it costs.

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>>54213419
Guardsmen get... training?

There is no better training, comrade, than fighting to survive.

>>54213688
got to buy $20 flesh tearer codex when it come outjust to get that rule mate

>>54213706
Guardsmen are generally the best troops a planet's PDF have to offer.

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>>54213708
You think they'll include rules for Flesh Tearers / Death Company and such in the Space Marine Codex coming out this month? Looking to build a Blood Angels army and I love the Flesh Tearer fluff.

>>54213694
High would count doesn't necessarily mean it's not a character.

Also
>I don't have my books on me

>>54213720
anything with over 10 wounds can be targeted.

>>54213706
Fighting to survive doesn't train you in a guardsman's most important skill: following orders.

They spend most of their time between deployments training, which is usually quite a lot of time.

>>54213647
1 Necron Warrior = 1 Terminator = 2 Space Marines = 3 Aspect Warriors = 6 Kabalites = 6 Veterans = 8 Guardians = 10 Sisters of Battle = 12 Fire Warriors = 30 Orks = 30 Guardsmen = 40 Cultists = 150 PDF = 600 Militia

>>54213719
No, BA, DA & SW are getting their own codices so they won't be covered in the main SM dex.

>>54213720
Downloard the links in the OP and read what it says about targetting characters with over 10 wounds.

>>54213716
What about those guardsmen that are superhuman 3+ to hit shooters that shouldn't exist though?

>>54213728
What the hell are the last 2

>>54213727
I thought the guy shooting anyone who doesn't follow orders would help with that.

>>54213728
An ork is equal to a guardsman?

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>>54213667
Good

>>54213677
apparently no good enough. they want to go back to 5 riptides capable of beating anything and handing any situation

>>54213732
To be fair the tabletop stats don't really translate to fluff very well.

Can someone explain to me the benefits of epub over pdf? I can't fucking handle epubs, what am I doing wrong?

Using phone btw

>>54213672
Go play a boxed cardboard chit war game instead

>>54213752
Not using readium.

About the new Tatical Objective, do I have to roll to capture it anymore and after capturing it do I have to keep my unit within 3" to hold it or can I move my unit away ?

>>54213739
A lot of 40k books are about some enemy descending onto an Imperial world and killing everyone there. The PDF is the Planetary Defense Force, which are the people who weren't good enough for the Guard so they just defend the planet from minor raids. Militia are civilians who have been hastily armed. They only really show up in the novels.

>>54213740
I really have no idea how they match up. There are stories about Orks with choppas murdering their way through Guardsmen in trenches, and stories about Guardsmen mowing down Orks from fortified positions. I figure they give about as good as they get.

>>54213756
When did you ever have to roll to capture it?

>>54213747
Seriously fuck Tau players.
Im switching to guard.
Started Tau in 5th when they were the sly underdog then WAAC ruined it.

>>54213754

I'm using lithium and ehen I try to zoom in it doesn't show text, it just shows the graphical elements, brackets etc

>>54213552
Yeah. I feel like 2 months agonyou couldn't the whole chaos side for 50 bucks, now all broken up for 20$ a piece..

>>54213720
Read the fucking rule book. It's like 4 pages.

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>>54213768
Well fuck me then. So do I have to stay within 3" to hold it ?

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>>54212931
gw doesnt want to sell the models, they want them all for themselves

>>54213756
What on earth makes you think you have to roll to capture it?

>>54213728
If all of these teams were placed in an arena, who would win?

>>54213772
For android? I haven't found a way to zoom in either but as long as I don't tap on the screen it works fine for me.

>>54213084
>what is a gitfinda
yea mine says you'z a GIT

>>54213779
How do you expect to hold an objective by fucking off?

>>54213732

Or the fact that death korp HORSES have a better melee profile than a space marine

>S4 Ws 3+ 2A

And that's just the horse.

>>54213789
I legitimately think 60% of warhammer players are retarded like that guy.

>>54213786

Yes, Android.
But how do you read rules on a phone screen without zooming in?

>>54213782
600 militia would win easily against almost everything there, the problem with militia is that on a real battlefield they'll all get butchered in groups of ten and twenty without achieving jack shit. If you lined them them all up and just started firing away they'd pulp everything there except maybe the Terminator.

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>>54213740
>I thought the guy shooting anyone who doesn't follow orders would help with that.
No. That might stop them disobeying, but it won't help if they don't understand the order. And unless you plan to micro-manage everything they do, that will take training.

>An ork is equal to a guardsman?
No.

>>54213801
I just read it. I'm lucky enough to have 20/20 vision and a biggish phone.

>>54213789
>>54213798
I think DoW may be a factor too.

>>54212841
Is that jew on the design team or writing lore etc? This would explain much.

>>54213121
>tauniggers

Not even once

>>54213706
>Commissar Letlev

Sounds like a bad commissar.

>>54213811

I should invest in eye surgery..

Thanks anyway, I'll try to find a solution

>>54213298

The more curious part is why the richest of the rich Orks have wet t-shirt armour saves and haven't got something like Power Stabbas on their guns for when they want to get stuck in. You can make the argument that they have no melee weapons and no armour because they just spend their teef on their guns but in that case you'd expect something a bit more threatening than a heavy bolter with 1 more AP.

Why do people with hyper optimised lists pretend they get games?

Those people get laughed at where I play.

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>only 2 helmeted heads
Somebody lied to me.

>>54213265
I would genuinely put people agitating for female space marines in gas chambers, I'm not joking.

>>54213840
>believing people on the internet

>>54213847
I genuinely don't think you would, but if you would, you're probably a sociopath.

>>54213839
Your people laugh at those that successfuly made good lists?

>>54213870
Making a good list is not an achievement unless you did it without reference to the internet. It means you can copy and paste.

The best warhammer mission:

>2000 points
>Players set up within 12 inches of whichever long side of the table they put their bags under
>Game has no max number of turns
>No objectives
>No Linebreaker
>No first blood
>No sieze the warlord
>Game ends when one player is tabled

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>>54213840
cant wait to see those on the tabletop in the 3 colour minimum with the blue already counted as a colour

PUKE

>>54213839
WAACfags btfo

But yeah pretty much true, the only games our local WAACfag gets is against literal newbies so he can crush their skulls in.

>>54213879
>Opposite land
GW has reasonable prices on their products.

>>54213885
Don't forget that the white of the shoulder transfer counts as a 2nd colour. Then you paint the base green, and you've got 3!

>>54213895
Putting on a decal would take too much work. I'd say a quick drop of paint into each eye should do the trick.

>>54213886

Does he ever lose? Because I find waacfags I've played against tend to be really poor at the actual game and don't know what to do if you start playing rings about their broken shit.

I'm basically just curious if any of the newbies can pull that off.

>>54213895
If you include the innapropriate 25mm base in black, thats 4!

>>54213904
New ITC rules require models to be based.

>>54213893

It's a wargame, son. Only war.

So, is there a way to get fortification weapons better ? BS5+ is really hurting.

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>>54213840
god what the fuck is that
jesus christ how fucking hideous

>>54213840
>believing people on the internet
>not reading that they were part of an "EASY-TO-BUILD" kit, meaning limited parts to begin with

>>54213840
People are gonna be selling those skull helmets alone for like 15 bucks on ebay.

>>54213875
Unless it's 666 conscripts or taudar with riptides, bikes and wraiths ur retarded for laughing people off

>>54213879
You need rules for who deploys first and who goes first.

But I am not unsympathetic to your agenda.

>>54213840
What the the hell is the second torso piece?

>>54213917

Why?

No really, why? They're cartoonish, and not even in the good 2nd edition Orks way.

>>54213908
>War has no strategical component other than killing the other guys
Again. Opposite land.

>>54213923
The back of the torso?

>>54213934

>War works by pulling Simon says cards out of a deck and obeying their random dictates

>>54213945
>war works by both sides just marching their armies at each other on a 4 by 6 field and the winner is whoever kills all the opposing teams dudes

>>54213840
>Slot base in 2017.

Better be some kind of special slot base that fit as in "no glue require" for the 3rd world country kid that happen to stump into this kit but have no glue.

Also the torso have some kind of pin to fit to the arm (no glue require), so if you cut the pin out the arm can be pose hopefully. Same for the CSM kit.

>>54213945
It brings some depth to the game but yeah unless it's still the 1400s most military operations have goals other than killing the other dudes.

>>54213840
trying to force Ultramarines this badly

Fucking Matt Ward

"Although most races aren't aware of their Old Ones heritage, they still made a great impact on the nascent races. In particular, at least according to Xenology, many races, including the Eldar, have very similar gods, including a bloody-handed warrior, a great smith, a life-giving goddess of the harvest, a laughing god, etc. It seems that these gods were inspired by the Old Ones, although whether they're based on particular Old Ones or just general concepts of what they did is uncertain. If you read the examples of gods above and thought by yourself: "Haven't I heard of this in real ancient religions at some point?", and if you can then connect that revelation to The Emperor, congratulations - You are paying attention. " How is this connected to the Emperor?

>>54213959

People in modern wars aren't going for the slaughter anymore, they have all kinds of restrictions. Geneva conventions and such.

40k operates under Ghenghis Khan logic. Ethics are irrelevant, only swift delivery of total victory.

A 41st millenium war can have all kinds of fancy objectives, but total slaughter is the core spirit of the game.

>>54213901
No. No they don't. Because he brings his most broken lists he can copy paste off the Internet, meanwhile the newbies are basically using dark angels from the last starter set plus a few things they might have picked up, painted fairly well. They come to the store hopeful to get a friendly casual game, only to get curb stomped into the ground.

Of all the people he's done it to (at least 15+ that I know of) literally only one has actually come back (and is actually a regular now)

>>54213879
If I wanted the game to take three times as long as it should, sure.

>>54214010
Where is this from?

>>54213959
Tbh an operation on the scale of a 40k battle is probably not going to have an objective beyond "drive the enemy out of the area vs maintain presence in area" as part of wider strategic obejectives. It's a little to big to be hostage rescuing /sabotage/assassination etc. and a little too small for grand strategic maneuvers.

>>54214012
>People in modern wars aren't going for the slaughter anymore, they have all kinds of restrictions. Geneva conventions and such.

Yep. That's the only reason there's no rank and file warfare going on anymore.

>>54213840
>only 2 helmeted heads

Why is this a problem?

Ever heard of instant molds? The clear plastic sticks that you stick into hot water to turn into putty, push stuff you want to duplicate into, and make a two-part mold out of in half an hour all in all.

I've already put that stuff to good use duplicating the automatic bolter rifle one of the Dark Imperium lieutenants comes with.

>>54214024
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Old_Ones_(Warhammer)

Probably some weird theory.

>Fully painted Chaos army.

>Suddenly get a extreamly good offer on Forgefiends/Maulerfiends

>Now busy making a Dark Mechanicum army.


Why Can't I just be happy with the Slaaneshi army that I got!

>>54214025
The fight taking place in a game is to me only a small part of a greater battle and having objectives in that localized maybe even pivotal fight makes sense to me.

>>54213840
>and it's supposed to be costs more than spanish white metal models

>>54214028

Put it this way, if America in 'Nam took a Ghenghis Khan or 40k approach then it'd have been over in less than a month and the jungle would only now be starting to grow back.

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I was considering a Spartan for my BT army. I'm not sure I saw it anywhere in the rules but can multiple units be set up inside a vehicle? Or is there some bizarre rule where only one unit can start inside and the rest have to be next to it and jump in first round.

>>54214054
Kek. Keep telling yourself lies to help you sleep at night, amerifag.

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Anyone care to rate my list? 20 points shy so I can give sergeants powerswords. Idea is commander, lord commissar and infantry blob up, commander 2 and command squad hop into chimera an fuck shit up, russes provide fire support.

>>54214054
Describe Ghengis Khan style.
Because whatever you think happened sounds like delusion.

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>>54212841

>>54214077
>After the fall of Bukhara, Genghis headed to the Khwarezmi capital of Samarkand and arrived in March 1220. Samarkand possessed significantly better fortifications and as many as 100,000 men defending it. As Genghis began his siege, his sons Chaghatai and Ögedei joined him after finishing the reduction of Otrar, and the joint Mongol forces launched an assault on the city. The Mongols attacked using prisoners as body shields. On the third day of fighting, the Samarkand garrison launched a counterattack. Feigning retreat, Genghis drew a garrison force of 50,000 outside the fortifications of Samarkand and slaughtered them in open combat. Shah Muhammad attempted to relieve the city twice, but was driven back. On the fifth day, all but an approximate 2,000 soldiers surrendered. The remaining soldiers, die-hard supporters of the Shah, held out in the citadel. After the fortress fell, Genghis reneged on his surrender terms and executed every soldier that had taken arms against him at Samarkand. The people of Samarkand were ordered to evacuate and assemble in a plain outside the city, where they were killed and pyramids of severed heads raised as the symbol of Mongol victory.[19]

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL PYRAMID

>>54214071
You're better off putting heavy weapon teams in heavy weapon squads. That way you can issue the guardsmen First Rank, Second Rank, and then the HWTs bring it down.

>>54214095
>Khwarezmi capital of Samarkand
Top kek

>>54213930
People love edgy shit and are gonna want the skull helmets on muhreens.

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Someone really like play that creepy edition?

>>54214071
Downgrade the Lord Comm to a normal Comm.

>>54214066

Nah, I'm a Brit. The only reason America keeps losing wars or getting gummed up for a decade and a half by underequipped insurgents is because modern countries have ethics standards to uphold, even when they're shit at actually bring ethical.

>>54214095
While that being utterly metal I don't see how it would affect vietnam?

>>54214054
The russians took a 'genghis khan approach' to Afghanistan when they invaded...and they got their ass handed to them

>>54213910
>bump

>>54214115
Inspired me to finally do an entirely homebrew edition so its not all bad.

>>54214131
Don't bother, people have no desire to talk about 40k in this thread

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Thoughts on my 40K choose your own adventure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkN4gcOko5k

Meme responses and shitposts aside for a minute.

Do you like 8th Edition as it currently exists.

>>54214155
Well, that's sad.

>>54214168
It's ok.

>>54214168
Could be worse.

>>54214168
Yes with one exception: I hate how they did the new tank mechanics.

>>54213910

I feel your pain, I bought a void shield generator last edition, took a while to get around to building it, haven't even painted it yet and now it's rules don't even produce a void shield anymore.

>>54214168
Yes.

It allows me and my other hobbiest buddies to play really fun casual games. Most fun we've had in 40k in over a decade.

FWIW we build, convert and paint the kits we like first and then field them. Nobody is a waacfag and we play crazy scenarios for the lulz.

>>54214104
The problem is at low points levels like this, 5 LC teams will get butchered leaving me with no anti tank.

>>54214118
Why? Lord comm is nicer and has 2+ ws for easy powerfist pain.

>>54214168
fluff or crunch?

desu the story line advancing is the only reason ive gotten back into 40k. I stopped playing and painting years ago because i got bored of it. So im loving the fluff, haven't looked into the rules enough to decide on the crunch tho.

>>54214168
>Do you like 8th Edition as it currently exists.
It's too early to talk about quality, let's see after few books releases

>>54214168
No because:
* They have oversimplified it to the point where it would have been easier to keep certain aspects of the game
* Crunch and fluff may as well exist on separate planets for all GW cares
* Everything is so fucking generic rules wise
* There is little customization.
Some of these problems are inherent in 40k and have become worse and some will be fixed with codexes but I'm with this guy >>54214146 40k is best played the way you and your friends want it to be.

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Where can I read 8th ed lore about the crons?

>>54213910
On the other hand, fortifications are a nice way for orks to keep lootas safe. It's not like the emplaced weapons fire any less accurately than the rest of the army.

>>54214168
Yes, but I wish they kept the vehicle/non-vehicle dichotomy

>>54214168

I'd have preferred if they'd kept closer to the third edition framework rather than making it AoS 2.0: This time not written on the back of a napkin on an intern's lunch break.

It's okay, but it's not the 40k game that existed nearly 20 years before the current design team rode it into the ground.

>>54214240
Fall of Cadia is the most recent release.

>>54214208
Because he's 20 points more and hiting on a 3 instead of a 4 with his fist is all he does.

>>54214168
Yeah. It got me back into 40k and back onto /tg/. It feels simpler, more fun and shorter than the edition I played last (which I *think* was early 7th).

>>54214200
This
It's a FUN system for pushing toy soldiers across a table and throwing dice and having fun. Pretending it's anything else is a delusion.

>>54214266
>It's a FUN system
>having fun
define fun

>>54214197

The mechanics themselves are fine imho. The loss of facing is a bit of an oversimplification, but was needed for the T/W system.

I just can't stand the heavy weapon penalty on tanks and MC.

For ruck's sake a WARLORD BATTLE TITAN has -1 penalty with its heavy weapons.

>>54214223
How is there only one guy that has said no...

>>54214280
And the only guy who brought some arguments

>>54214279
Read the last sentence of the Imperial God-engine rules.

>>54214279
Really? So a conscript charging your land raider and preventing it from shooting is fine? Or a leman russ not being able to run over a daisy chain of grots? Not saying last edition was any better but the way they implemented tanks is just sad.

>>54214168
Yep. It's fun and intuitive and easy to learn. And it actually requires tactics instead of spamming Riptide Wing or Wraithknights. Only thing I don't like is how much of a pain in the ass it is to add up points

>>54214277
Different anon here, but my definition would entail a game where we can push our toy soldiers around, make pew pew noises for shits and kicks and roll some dice. A game where we don't have to reference 5 different charts every couple of minutes or spend 10 minutes looking up 20 different obscure rules in the book. Where after we can shake hands, say good game, and have a feeling that we genuinely enjoyed ourselves.

8th ed brought that back for me, and hasn't been like that since... Idk 4th edition?

>>54214305

Frankly just as bad is units completely failing to shoot for a turn because a rhino parked next to them.

>>54214305

It's not, but at least it's easily countered by bubblewrapping your tanks

But there is no counter to having to chose between being immobile or having -1 hit

>>54213188
Fuck ive never botherd running more then one. But now its utter trashcan because its 300+points and has vehicle stats.

>>54214277
Yeh bad wording.

It's a game where the fun is derived from cinematic moments created by dice, and knowing this going in you take an easy going approach that creates a more relaxed gaming atmosphere of joking and good natured taunting for players and spectators. Casual fun.

Different and distinct from the mental exercise fun I get from playing other tabletop games like Terra Mystica or Dominant Species; games where it's about quiet introverted calculations.

>>54214317
>Different anon here, but my definition would entail a game where we can push our toy soldiers around, make pew pew noises for shits and kicks and roll some dice.
Then why do you even need more rules than "roll 1 d6 to win"?
>8th ed brought that back for me, and hasn't been like that since... Idk 4th edition?
Since when 4th edition was so oversimplified?

>>54214317
This. I would suck this posts dick if it had one. 100% this.

>>54214319
That's what I'm trying to say, the way vehicles were implemented is terrible. Maybe not from a balance perspective, but from a common sense perspective it is fucked up in so many ways.

>>54214168
Outside of a few nitpicky things, yes.

>>54214339
Define fun for you, I'm curious. Define fun without referencing any 8th edition rules.

Just wait until the Easy2Build shit goes away, then we'll have actual kits

They've said they're coming, I don't know why you're all sperging out that that kiddy kits are too kiddy for you

>>54214279
>I just can't stand the heavy weapon penalty on tanks and MC
most tanks are less accurate on the move though.

plus as a gameplay mechanic it makes the choice ro move or not meaningful.

>>54214305
Vehicles should be able to move through infantry, making both take a 2d6 against toughness to cause 1 mortal wound.
Vehicles should be able to shoot in CC unless they are completely surrounded.
Fixed it for you GW.

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>>54214357

>>54214339
Ignoring the first part of the reply

>since when was 4th ed so over simplified

I didn't say it was, what I was getting at, was that I haven't been able to enjoy myself playing 40k since 4th, until now.

>>54214336
>cinematic moments created by dice
>>54214305
>conscript charging your land raider and preventing it from shooting
>>54214305
>leman russ not being able to run over a daisy chain of grots

>and knowing this going in you take an easy going approach that creates a more relaxed gaming atmosphere of joking and good natured taunting for players and spectators.
You really have brain problems?

>>54214369
Oh you're 13, gotcha

>>54214365
its not like they're even new.
40k has had cheap snapfit kits for most factions basic troops since 4e.

>>54214357
>Define fun for you,
I wouldn't because I am not using "X is fun" as argument.
>>54214371
>Ignoring the first part of the reply
Why?
>I didn't say it was, what I was getting at, was that I haven't been able to enjoy myself playing 40k since 4th, until now.
Let me guess, orks?

>>54214375
not the same guy, anon

>>54214367

The give tanks +1 BS base compared to their race standard

Guard tanks hitting on 5s is unbearable

>>54214279
You really haven't read the turret and titan weapon rules have you?

>>54214367
It entirely defeats the point of some vehicles like Sentinels though.

>>54214385
I guess the real question is, why don't you play a different game if you dislike 40k 8th edition? Literally what's stopping you?

Why spend effort and time on 40k general arguing the definition of "fun"?

Jesus christ this fucking guy!
Are you guys this anal about Primaris Marines?
https://youtu.be/3YPa4rJ06_Y

>>54214385
Nah salamanders

>>54214384
I wish they've kept prices since 4e
>>54214388
>not the same guy, anon
I knew, but how exactly these moments are "cinematic"? Shit even more complex rulesets creates more cinematic moments.

>>54214408
>Why spend effort and time on 40k general arguing the definition of "fun"?
Because it's not warhammer community site, so people here can DISCUSS rules, instead of endless praising like a good goys.
>>54214425
Well yeah it's a good time for flamers army

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>>54214409
>10 seconds into video
>Look at related videos
Nope.jpg

>>54214409
Kek. This is how I imagined the autist's voice to sound like from the WAAC-fag: Japan edition post from some time ago.
>>54214426
?
i never mentioned cinematic

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>>54214444
>a feminist's perspective on warhammer 40k
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAA

>>54214452
It's a video of him making fun of a feminist article iirc.

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Am considering a Scythed heirodule for my nids. My friends randomly field a knight or some guard super heavy (never more than one tho, not spammy tournament players).

Think it will do the trick or just get mulched? Does it need a swarmlord for that big first turn charge distance?

>>54214460
Swarmlord isn't mandatory, but it's definitely a huge help to go along with it. Just seen one the other day first turn charge the back ranks of a renegade army, because exocrine and hive guard melting the front ranks is terrifying

>>54214460
I haven't seen the stats but I'd consider the barbed Heirodule simple for the fact it has the option to shoot. You don't want one of your buddies bogging your scyther down in CC so it can't get to what's important, while the barbed has the possibility to shoot and weaken before finishing them off

>>54214445
>?
>i never mentioned cinematic
>>54214336
>from cinematic moments created by dice,

Anyone watched yesterday's stream? How was it?

>>54214487
yeah dude dat aint me

>>54214437
It's not even that flamers are really good now (they were never really that bad). It's that I'm actually enjoying the time I spend playing the game.

>>54214168
Oh jesus christ someone post memes and shitposts and move on

>>54214460

How old is the Hierodule? I dropped out of 40k around 2001 and didn't come back until recently, but I'm like 70% sure that it was in a white dwarf just before I left and had a transport capacity for Gaunts?

>>54214483
>>54214460

The scythed has 8 attacks in cc to the barbed's 5
>inb4 FW codex FAQ
The Scythed also has that 2d6 heavy flamer at S6 d3 wounds. Only range 8 but great overwatch deterrent and helps before you charge also.
I say scythed is the way to go

>>54214511
Don't worry, saying you hate 8th edition even though it's clearly the best edition since Warhammer 40,000 Rogue Trader is just another retarded meme. Even the "people" that are screeching it in every thread for replies have no good material, I'm honestly surprised you replied and more surprised that I replied to you.

>>54214520
They're both pretty old now. I think scythed is more recent than barbed? The scythed mini looks better in any case.

The giant heirodule bio titan can transport units. Normally people use it to carry genestealers and a brood lord.
>normally
As if it's used a lot...

>>54214522
Didn't know about the Flamer it had, are the canons the other one has still assault? I think that'd be the clincher for me. 3 less attacks can be negated by the fact it has much better guns

>>54214279
>but was needed for the T/W system

Russ Tough 8 on front, tough 7 on sides, tough 6 on rear...

I do wish they'd hurry up and release some fucking models though, so we can stop this dragged out bullshit

Get the models out, I'll buy them, then I can paint them and play with them

>>54214498
>It's not even that flamers are really good now
They are best anti-air

>>54214563
>ok T7 vs my lascannon
>dude that's clearly front facing
>8 minute discussion on bisection of tank

Strongly tempted to buy some Reivers and paint them in the most Juggalo scheme possible.

>>54214550
The barbed has 2x Heavy 6, S8 -2save d3 damage guns, 48" range. Shitau tier 4+ BS.

So the scythed is going to get like 7 hits on average that are S6 but otherwise same rend and dmg. Barbed gets 6 on average that are S8.

I feel like the scythed is always going to be in the thick of it from the start so the range is less of an issue. Plus auto hits on overwatch that are S6 d3 damage can put a lot of hurt on characters that threaten to charge him.

>>54214583

See that was the problem. I remember reading a way to determine faces in the flames of war I think it was? It supposed to be the perfect correct way to do it or something.

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Would Skitarii react to injuries in combat? On one hand, probably more efficient if they do take into account the leg they've just lost and decide to provide covering fire rather than keep crawling onward, but it seems cooler for them to just keep trying to do their job in almost complete silence until the battle's over and the Doctrinas are exloaded, at which point they regain the capacity to scream in agony.

So im checking out the Tottenham Court Road GW and there appears to be a gay pride parade around the corner.

In that spirit, what's the gayest 40k faction?