Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Fellow Fa/tg/uys, does anyone have the Dark Vengeance 8e booklet? Trying not to loose it to the ages now.

Specially now that I finally found other players in the dark reaches of the undeveloped southern hemisphere.

>>54205597
I have no idea what you're talking about. Dark Vengeance was 7th Edition.
Do you mean Dark Imperium or was there some booklet I don't know of?

>>54205597
What do you need from it? It's just the base rules plus Dataslates for Vrosh and such.

I am searching for the Eisenhorn audiobooks. Any idea where I could find them?

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>>54205482
If you don't mind making some conversions and Tallarn looks don't convince you, take some Cadians and make them "Afrika Korps/Desert Rats" style, sand half their trousers and the sleeves to make them shorter.

Ryza is the best forge world
Prove me wrong

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What went wrong with 8th edition?

>>54205636
There was a booklet with Dark Vengeance rules adapted to 8th

>>54205719
Lucius is a Dyson Sphere.
Q.E.D.

>>54205726
We still let NPC races play the game

>>54205732
Oh, okay, cool. Didn't know that.

>>54205541
Lorgar did everything wrong

>>54205734
There already is a marine on marine homofest game called horus heresy, leave 40k alone

>>54205719

Just paint them orange nigger

>>54205719
You don't have Belisarius Cawl.

>>54205726
Mass infantry spam

>>54205597
Did you search it in one of the Mega archives?

>undeveloped southern hemisphere.
? are you a filthy latino?

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Those of you working on big marines, show me what you've got so far! I want some ideas.

Bonus points to anyone who posts a gravis captain or inceptor squad and has made it look good.

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>triggered!

Enjoy way too much working on this silly thing

>>54205766
>marine on marine homofest game
Now that's not fair, anon. The Dark Angels only get special rules in the *upcoming* Horus Heresy book.

>>54205799
>triggered
Yes, I am. Put some damn Nuln Oil on those guns, mate.

>>54205822
>unfinished models
>muh oil!

Sure as you got trigger there

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>>54205795
My lighting's really bad so I'll just post the one old pic, but your guys are looking real good

>>54205846
He's been based, tidied up and his power sword has been snazzed up with some FX

>>54205829
Nuln Oil aka a black shade. I couldn't give a fuck about you dirtying your models up or not, but those pure metal guns look horrible without some proper shade on them

>>54205846
Mold line. Otherwise bretty gud.

>>54205846
Looking good!

>>54205870
These Primaris fucks are really difficult to clear of mold lines it turns out

>>54205846
Not guard/10!

>>54205870
Haven't worked with the Primarines yet, but that mold line on that guy in particular is apparently a bitch to remove, as even the Dunc-Meister didn't get it cleaned off completely in the Crimson Fist video.

In there any way to download somewhere Dante by Guy Haley? I really want to read it but spending 20 bucks for a book is too much for me right now.

So somebody informed me of two coloured Guard Anons who post here with batreps and such. Is that discouraged? There seems to be static about them.

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>>54205541

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>>54205541

>>54205919
Fuck you Erebus

>>54205726
Dumbing down of the complexity, though i inspect an increase with 9th now that the unnecessary fat has been shaved off as well

>>54205866
What part of unfinished did you not understand?

So I'm planning on making some Commissars and I wanted to grab boltguns for them. Any particular pattern or kit that's particularly adept for kitbashing onto regular humans?

>>54205799
>all that work
>all that money
>for this
It would've been better looking, easier and cheaper to just ebay sob models

>>54205955
3rd was far simpler than this. Codex and supplement books will add the depth back into it. It's gonna be fine.

>>54205955

40k has been steadily getting dumbed down since 2e.

Ever expecting GW to make a more tactically challenging game is stupid.

>>54205961
The part where you posted it here, not in the WIP thread.

>>54205970
Not as fun.
I could simply buy them from GW, but not what I was looking for as a third army

>>54206003
>using wip

>>54205919
Fuck you Erebus

>>54205822
>dark angels
I'm talking Space Yiffs versus dindu Thousand Sons

Though there was homolust tension between Russ and Lion

>>54205965
You mean bolt pistols or bolters?

>>54205898
Newermind. Found it in the OP.

>>54205716
Or just by bolt action Brits and convert them with lasguns

>>54205799
Keep doing the God Emperor's work, anon.

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How long do you think it will be before Renegades get a proper book to make them Ok? I may have to fall back on my Mechanicus for the three years it'll take forge world to give me decent rules.

>>54206045
Bolters. I want range.

Pre-orders are up on the Kiwi page.

>>54206018
Yeah, how stupid of me. Of course you wouldn't want constructive feedback in order to better yourself, I can clearly tell from your models.

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>raised Horus as a child, read books to him and generally spent what could only be described as ''Father/Son time'' with him
>was so proud of Fulgrim and his Legion he renamed them ''The Emperor's Children'' and allowed them to display the Aquila
>was aware of Dorn's loyalty and dedication and responded in kind, bestowing the highest honors upon him, even greater then Horus himself
>Didn't want to kill Angron and ordered The Thousand Sons to find a cure
>didn't have the statues of Traitor Primarch's destroyed during The Heresy, just covered up
>was legitimately best friends with Malcador who was anything but a sycophant and called Him out on His shit constantly
>allowed Horus to basically murder Him because he couldn't bring Himself to kill his favored son, only retaliating once he realized that Horus was truly gone and that all of Humanity would suffer unimaginably and endlessly unless He took decisive action
>loves Mankind so much He keeps Himself in endless, unfathomable torment just to give us a sliver of chance of survival


>''LELELEL HE WAS AN EVIL INCOMPETENT EMO DICK WHO NEVER LOVED ANYONE AND WAS ONLY PRETENDING''

So are they just going to straight up retcon EVERYTHING that goes against their retarded version? Literally all of his character?

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>>54206093

You and me both

At this point Im sitting till RH get a proper update or Dark Mechanicum in 40k.

Might be a long wait.

>>54205999
To be fair, it changed the aimed size of the game, rewriting a skirmish game to a company sized oned, ao some simplifciations had to be made

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>>54206093
> thinking FW will give another shit about side project tier throw away army when they are scrabbling to save Horus Heresy after the main author eat himself to death
Loving every laugh

>>54205973
I started with 5th so the earliest i am familiar with is 3td/4th ed codices with 5th main rules but i'll take your word for it.

>>54205713
they were on youtube, but now they are gone

>>54206141

When you summaraize it this way it just makes him sound soft and incompetent.

>>54206130
>wip
>constructive
Are we even talking about the same wip?

>>54206007
Very well, nevermind then.
I still prefer the look of the original models though.

>>54206164
>guy builds his Empire on genocide and slavery (not as bad in context, but still)
>is not completely evil and has a softer side
>"He's soft and incompetent''
Him not being a complete monster doesn't make His planetary genocides any softer.

>>54206164

Well, everyone who hates Horus Heresy series is a pleb who doesn't even know the original fluff and is mad that HH replaced their headcanon. nator.

>>54206141
If you're talking about Master of Mankind, ADB straight up says in the author's note that absolutely nothing the Emperor does should be taken at face value.

>>54205733
I always thought that would make them truly horrendously overpowered if they were attacked, even small Dyson Spheres are stupid in terms of energy output."'Sup, have a neutron-pumped fusion laser big enough to drain a reactor the size of a small star".

*Planet Killer gets completely BTFO*
Job done lads, time to find some toaster girls.

>>54206151

Show us where the FW units touched your army anon

>>54206141
>>allowed Horus to basically murder Him because he couldn't bring Himself to kill his favored son, only retaliating once he realized that Horus was truly gone and that all of Humanity would suffer unimaginably and endlessly unless He took decisive action

Retconned.
GTFO with your outdated fluff before you start citing Rogue Trader.

>>54206146
You have Hellwrights in the FW index, so all you need is some Skitarii equivalents.

>>54206195

It's easy to order death from a far.

Allowing yourself to get rekt by your kin because of muh feefees?

Guy wouldn't last 2 weeks in Commoraugh.

>>54205899
What? Batreps or being guard playing subhumans? Because yes, both.

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Remember when Duncan had a lame t-shirt?

Yeesh.

>>54205719
Xana Exists, as do Your Dudes. I made my own, with although I haven't named it yet.

Still, Ryza is pretty sodding cool, they're actually fighting a war somewhat respective of the size of an entire planet of factories, which almost nothing else in the universe has done. No, you can't take a planet made of gun and cyborg soldiers with 1000 Space Marines, they'd just nuke 'em even if they could make planetfall. Admech don't give a fuck if they irradiate some dudes, it's just more free Vanguard.

>>54205919
Fuck you Magnus

>>54206130
/wip/ is becoming a bit ridiculous though, nowadays a lot of them are more interested in how well you crop your photos than how well you paint.

>>54206223
>post complaining about retcons mentions older fluff
>ABLOBLOBLO IT'S RETCONNED
Aaron, shouldn't you be in a circlejerk on Bolter and Cucksword?

>>54206255
>implying it could be lame when duncan is wearing it

>>54205776

Can 't you do elite low model count armies with Primarisfags?

>>54206284
I prefer the fine taste of dakkadakka, thank you

>>54206243
>autistic edgelords that damned everyone but especially themselves and can only perpetuate degeneracy as they slowly wither away, watching their once vaunted culture degrade even further and further while they disappear into nothingness, not even with a whimper, should be an example to anyone
Kek. Also, we're talking about a guy that could blow Commoragh up by wincing too hard.

>>54206293
Dakkadakka consists of whiny WAACfags with six million posts.

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>>54206214
He also creates an OC daemon that somehow even The Emperor can't kill and says Chaos already won and that's it. So it's a shit book either way.

I like 4 Chaos Legions. Which do you suggest?

Death Guard
>Cool new minis. Good gameplay I'm a fan of. Not the biggest fan of their fluff (though Nurgle is awesome) and they seem like a pain in terms of converting/painting.

Word Bearers
>Cool colour scheme, cool lore. Interesting gameplay focussing on weird stuff like cultists and summoning. They don't have anything unique though and still use the crappy old CSM models.

Thousand Sons
>Cool lore. Good gameplay. Updated miniatures. Look challenging to paint. Not a fan of Magnus' model or use of him in a game.

Black Legion
>So so, lore. Allows most freedom. Easier to paint I assume. Old models however and they are very generic.

Wait, the Tempestus Scion squad box is the same one as the Tempestus Scion Command squad, right? that means theres isn't a "proper" Command box, so why the fuck they are both listed in the online store?

>>54206243
>Guy wouldn't last 2 weeks in Commoraugh.

Not really, he'd feel just fine purging every single bit of xenos vermin there

>>54206146
At least they're already painted black, I can adapt them.
>>54206151
Some just want an army that can ve customized more than pauldron colour.

Am I missing anything, or can Goliaths transport fucking Purestrain Genestealers now?

>>54206151
kys faggot. Bligh died of cancer.

>>54206165
Well, you can't go there if you have a thin skin, but among the two dozen accusations of retardation and the "thin your paint" you will usually have someone give you constructive feedback.

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>>54206195
Oh fuck off, you sound like that youtuber who made that video about the term 'God Emperor' being used in Trump supporter vocabulary.

It doesn't matter, fucking planetary genocide, conquest or any of that utter crap, that notion is the disgusting piss-poor opinion of a weakling pampered citizen who knows nothing of conflict, necessity, duty and honour, and will always shittalk them no matter what until put at the end of a fucking rifle on the firing line.

You people are the very driving force behind tyrannies, because when you swell up like the insatiable self-serving antisocial cancerous tumours that you are, you become a fucking threat to the stability of the ground you stand on that was built on the very principles you protest, "Because it's not good" enough. Well dipshit, let me tell you, when people go enough is enough, they fucking mean it, and people like you are the first to feel the fucking burn, your mindless spouting finally making you the victim wannabee pariah, as you get killed to set an example for the others en masse.

Ambition is built upon the corpses of those you trample upon to reach it, conflict is the nature of the universe, all you have was earned through strength and valor or your own wit, and denying this is to become a total scumbag who can't accept that the world doesn't revolve around your tunnel vision worldview.

The Emperor did what he had to do, end of dicussion, and you should be grateful that he did it, because I know lazy maggots like you would sit around moaning until Nurgle's rot arrives to claim you in your worthless evil stagnation.

Nothing is more vile than the products of weakness, they hold no benefit to anyone other than an example of the price of failure in this world.

It is a golden standard that people like you should be killed for merely existing, because before all others, you are naught but a dangerous influence if pandered to in even miniscule charity.

>>54205541
I'm scribbling together a short story set during the Great Crusade, and I just wanted some background detail information.

I know that Astartes were created faster and possibly on older subjects than becomes the nrom by 40k. Does anyone have any details about the process? How quickly you could slap Astartes together and what sort of recruitment standards the existing legions had?

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Preorders are up on the NZ site if you want to look at the models in 360 (the reivers' leg poses do look better from other angles IMO), and get overexcited because you've forgotten kiwibux aren't the same as freedombux,

So when will Codex Ta'u release?
Won't be the last one or the one after Deathguard

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>>54206219
> thinking I dont play HH
> thinking that I don't have a job where I can easily afford FW prices when I want to buy from them
Loving.
Every.
Laugh.

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>>54206381
>mfw when i wholly, completely support everything The Emperor did and understand he did what he had to do
>mfw when i view him as a true hero and a messiah, doing the best he can in a very fucked situation
>mfw some fucking autist explodes at me with literally my own beliefs and stances
I was just making an argument that loving his sons doesn't make him soft, you goddamned mongoloid.

>>54206331
Just to fuck with your head anon

>>54206392
Might get a couple of these.... So I can pair them up with my under-sized Rogue Trader Mohawk Scouts.

>>54206396
It has a decent shot of being in the 6 unannounced "10 before christmas" codex releases.

>>54206449
Before or after IG?

>>54206329
Death Guard.

They are actually obscenely easy to paint, because you can work with shading, dry-brushing and technical paints for the most part and leave the hard stuff out.
Seriously, I have two left hands and can't paint anything but Nurgle well. Aside from the trim there is nothing you need the least bit of skill for.

The converting is currently hard as hell because the Plague Marines are horrendously out of scale with the rest of the CSM range, but once they get more modular kits, that won't be an issue anymore.

And if you enjoy the looks and the gameplay, then you should definitely go for them.

>>54206331
They do that with every kit that makes different units.

>>54206329
Right now rubricae or deathguard.

Unaligned need new models desperately.

Until deathshroud gets released plague marines are unfortunately mobility restricted but that should be solved before long

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>>54206381
You wanna know why Tyrants do horrible things to their people? Because they fucking know that when they get into power, the cunts that made their domains so fucking shit are you horrendous exemplars of what not to be as human beings, and they realize just how fucking evil you all actually are as a voice heard in the publics eye, so they fucking remove you like you should be, for being ungrateful for sacrifices and the privileges those who have strength have granted you, and to undo the damage you have done by voicing opinions from a pampered cushy worldview. There is no stability in your words, as they are empty promises based on one's greediness and vice left unchecked, and seek to undermine a citizen's understanding of their place in the world, which is to serve and benefit the strong, so that they too may receive some measure of power for their own to rise their position in the world of their own earning, thus continuing the cycle that allows for prosperity.

Weakness is the fuel for the evils brought forth by untamed choas left untampered by law It must be purged with the structure and strength attained for effort and hard work to overcome it.

The Emperor did nothing wrong, he is human, and can make mistakes. Beyond his limited social circle due to being the new man, and haste in all that led up to eventual entombment on the Golden throne, he did his best, and achieved many of his goals giving mankind a chance against a world that does not accept them or care for them, as the lack of friendly Xenos would display when the Imperium got fucked by the Iron Men The universe gave mankind a fat slap to their old dreams that everything was going to be Mass Effect Star enterprize tier and they learned to cope by the old standards which never became outdated, even since it dominated Terra for the centuries before it became a blasted desert.

Evil is an outdated social concept only fit for those who do it for it's own sake, nature and necessity above all.

>>54206468
Is IG even coming before Christmas?

>>54206477
Post your DG

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>>54205776
He said "wrong"

>>54206392
I'm thinking of getting First Strike twice, actually.

That gives me a 5 man Intercessor Squad, a 5 man Reiver squad, an additional Intercessor and Reiver to convert into Plague Marines, 12 more Poxwalkers and 6 Plague Marines with two of those sweet Blight Launchers.

Also the Plague Champion has a Plasma Gun clipped to his backpack, I'm loving it.

>>54206511
Ok, that's very cute, now are you going to address your autism?
>>54206434

>>54206477
Really? that explan why the other day i had a mind fuck for looking the Hive/Tyrant Guard box.

>>54206512
Are you fucking retarded? You think they wouldn't put out one of the main factions before all the side shit like Farsight and Thousand Suns?

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>>54205726
GW ported over many parts of Age of Sigmar, not accounting for rules that 40k had which WHFB didn't. Thus you get wonky mechanics like:
>Plasma explodes at night.
>Flamethrowers shooting aircraft.
>Removal of Fire Arcs. Fortifications like the Imperial Bastion are now fucking Beyblades.
>You cannot assault an Airborne vehicle if you do not Fly. However, you also cannot move under or go past it. 2 Stormravens sidebyside become a forcefield of "Fuck You"
>"spam a unit" Detachments which mean you might as well play Unbound.
>GW renaming factions for Maximum Copyright. See: Drew Carey.
>GW doubling down on "if we don't make a model for it, you can't play with it" (See: Ork Looted Wagons, Ard Boyz, Carapace Veterans).

8th manages to bog itself down in more die rolls and clunkiness than 7th. Pic fucking related.

>>54206512
Yeah obviously since a lot of people are buying the kits.

>>54206531
Frankly, yes. How much "side shit" was released in 7e whilst Chaos had an early 6e codex?

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Reposting here as well
Are these guys hyper rare? I want to cut off the boxes on their waist but I don't want some autist to yell at me that I defiled a rare model or something like that

>>54206449
>>54206468

Guard is popular and due for an index, so I'd imagine probably guard first.
Something like SoBs though... I can't imagine them putting those front and centre and making things like BAs and other marine flavours wait

>assault cannon
>heavy 6
BRAVO GW

>>54206322
Chaos won because Magnus fucked up.

I don't get why GKs were whining, they were among the first 7th edition codices while more relevant stuff like IG didn't even get one.

>>54206531
Is Farsight even going to be standalone? Might just be rolled in with tau

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>>54206381
Wew, junge.

>>54206582
On a semi-unrelated note in 7th the deathwatch infernus heavy bolter was assault and not heavy lmao.

>>54206596
>Chaos won
Is that why they're so shook that Bobby G is back TEN THOUSAND FUCKING YEARS LATER?

>>54206570
Guard didn't get a 7th either dumbshit

Anyone have a hint whether the Reivers are going to be units of 3 or units of 5?

The only thing stopping me buying some isn't the monopose, but the fact I might have to purchase more

>>54206551
Nah ur opinion is shite

>>54206551

What are those gun drones fighting against?

>>54206626
I mean, what's Gilly going to do when the Emperor dies and humanity explodes into daemons?

>>54206331
because people are retarded and will search forever for a tempestus scion command squad box otherwise

>>54206551
lel

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>>54206381
Im using this as a line from a campaign im putting together in D&D, thank you anon

>>54206628
Guard's 6e codex was a week before 7e, thatt's also not helping the "GW put the main factions on the top of the list for updates," that's only been true of Space Marines.

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>>54205592
>negromancer
And a new meme is born.

>>54206551
I have to admit, my revulsion is tempered by the the spectacle of THAT many drones.

>>54205597
>>54205658
Would also like this, I play Dark Angels, obviously most of the Dark Angel stuff is in the Index but if I want a quick game using my chaos from that set I'd love the rules for them if you have it.

>>54206571
Those are the old guard lascannon gunners.
You'd be better off selling them and just buying more guardsmen with the money.

Where in the rulebook does it state how many units you can deepstrike or hold in reserve? Is it half?

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Trying to put together an army for my friend to start playing with, the first thing he's going to fight will probably be Warrior spam Necrons, so I wanted to give him something strong and durable like Maulerfiends to clean up the squads before Reanimation Protocol overwhelms him.

>>54206650
Proxies for Razorwing Flocks. A single Razorwing is 7 points, and is S2 T2...but it has 4 wounds and 8 attacks (that only hit on 5+). However, when near a Beastmaster, they reroll to-hit.

This means a 70-point unit can on average roll 126 dice, just to hit . If you add a Farseer for doom, this means you can roll over 200 rolls to hit and wound on average for a single 70-point unit!

>>54206329
Death Guard soon get their own codex, probably with a new mini or two.
Think about this decision around a week or two later.

>>54206674
I played a black skinned human Necromancer in an MMORPG. The name used to be 'Old Niggaz' untill some asshat reported it and I had to change it.
Tried Negromancer at first, but the name filter didn't allow it

>>54206734
you must deploy at least half your units on the table, so if you have 7 units, 4 must start on the table. Its under the rules for matched play

>>54206780
>lookmomiposteditagain.png

>>54206633
Get 2 boxes of 3, make the leftover Sergeant into a Lieutenant.
Reivers are apparently 18 points a pop, cheaper than Intercessors, so I assume they'll come in the same unit size.

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>>54206551
Losing looted wagons and hard boyz sucked, they sell a shoulder pad upgrade sprue and the model for looted wagons is another factions vehicle and trukk or wagon kit.
Though most looted wagons could be fit as a trukk or wagon, just loses some flavor.

Also you can't tell me cutting ALL special rules is a good thing, having 10 different names for feel no pain and stealth just makes more opportunities for poorly worded rules interactions.

And no matter what edition, some of us orks will build models that are too awesome for any codex entry. Like pic related. Though forge world gives some good options like mega dreads and battle fortresses

If you haven't thrown your manlet army into the garbage already please remove yourself from live.

This hobby isn't for manlets.

>>54206674
Negromancer is pretty much kind of used in spanish talking planets.

>>54205919
Fuck you Erebus

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>>54206255
tfw I met Duncan

He's actually such a down to earth guy, has all the time in the day to help you and give you tips or just have a chat.

>>54206322

I feel like it's a build up to the Emperor deciding to make the Grey Knights as his last ditch attempt to throw a big enough cog into Chaos' plans to stop them from winning. This makes sense as ADB has a love/hate boner for the GKs

>>54206551
>>54206678
Somebody post the Shas'o Bama picture

>>54206851
>He's actually such a down to earth guy
you're supprised? he always comes across as really chill in everything he is in.

>>54206838
> tt wargame
> not for manlets
This was CREATED for manlets who can't 4 plate every bar anon

>>54206772

Terrific, found it anon, thanks!

One last question about it, if you take a transport, since in 8th they don't 'come' with units now...that means you can deploy a cheap transport as one of those units towards your half right?

>>54206551

These two deserve eachother

>>54206551
watched a game of drone and commander spam vs conscript and heavy weapon team spam at the flgs a couple weeks ago. The game was a spectacle, It was fun just imagining the blue and red laser show.
Drone spam just barely won, partly due to drones auto look out sir for the commanders. which i think got FAQed?

>>54206851
>not just censoring your eyes

>>54206748
>This means a 70-point unit can on average roll 126 dice, just to hit . If you add a Farseer for doom, this means you can roll over 200 rolls to hit and wound on average for a single 70-point unit!
And does 4 wounds against TEQ, 2 against TEQ.
Wow, 232 points to kill a single 31 points model, how terrifying.

>>54206449
Well, they went into detail already when it comes to eldar and necrons, so they are soon

>>54206825
>having 10 different names for feel no pain and stealth just makes more opportunities for poorly worded rules interactions.
Having ten different names means that you can write rules and confidently expect that they will only interact with the rules you want them to, instead of creating FNP 1+ stacking monstrosities as a bunch of random rules you never expected conspire to produce something real stupid.

>>54206870
That was the old games workshop

Now we have the New Games Workshop™ No manlets allowed.

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>>54205795
Excuse the not amazing painting. But fuck Roboute, the eagle flies again. Emperor's Children Resurgent.

>>54206938
Ok then anon I will need to hear your stats. With supporting pics

>>54206926
Don't even bother

>>54206945
No excuses. No forgiveness. No remorse.

So, we know that DG is getting their own codex in one of the first four. What exactly is going to go in it? At present, Death Guard has 6 units not included in the basic CSM units (though Plague Marines are definitely making a showing, so make that 7). That does not seem like enough content to fill a book with. I know that a lot of the codices are going to be flavor/stratagems/subfaction rules/relics, but aren't they also getting full rules for all of their units? Is that section just going to be tiny for DG compared to "full" factions? Or should we be expecting a bunch of new DG units to drop to fill out the codex?

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So today I gm'd a game between two people who did their first 8th edition game, Tyranids vs Imperial Guard, only 500 pts. Hive Tyrant, zoanthropes and 40-50 gaunts vs infantry only guard without a single unit of conscripts and an evesor assassin.
Guard won, it was suprising to see how strong those orders make what seems like not that impressive units. Also discovered that a missile launcher shooting frag does D6 shots, not D3, which makes me wonder why you'd ever take a lascannon when the missile launcher is that versatile.
Tyranid player did make quite a number of poor decisions however, he was still operating in previous edition mode where you only shovel everything foward and charge, without having to think about how you move your charging units for example (if you don't encircle those units with your 20 hormagaunts, then yes they will just walk away and get a Return into the Fight order) It was also funny how upset the Tyranid player got over how three missile launchers did 6 wounds with three krak missiles on his hive tyrant.

>>54206993
no more like new rules for existing units, nurgle vehicles and what not

>>54206993
1. Death Guard Terminators
2. Grand Cultivator of Nurgle (Character)
3. Nurgle tainted Vindicator

Plus a few others iirc.

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>>54206381
>>54206511
>being such an autist you sperg out and explode at a post without knowing the context or reading the entire chain, which would have shown it very pro-Emperor
>being such a bitch you just fall silent when made aware of this
You're either a master of trolling, or an embarrassment to the ideals and beliefs you so estatically exclaimed. While the parasites you berated are indeed a danger and a poison to all of civilization, the same level of danger is represented by idiots like you who jump the gun without a second thought. Troll or retard, Chaos is for you.

>>54206993
Death Guard Terminators and Mortarion have also been teased. They'll probably have at least as many units as Thousand Sons, probably more.

>>54206674
>Negromancer
So what he do? invoke watermelon, fried chicken and guns? because the last one is pretty useful

>>54207042
no a necromancer talks to the dead, a negromancer talks to niggers

so in other words he's a jew

>>54206581
Well, they probably want to max their sale of indices but while looling good in the eyes of the community, so they'll release something for a minority

>>54206868
For a lot of "famous" people that's just an act.

>>54207047
Literally Bernie Sanders

>>54206894
>tfw anon is a black dwarf pigmy midget

>>54206582
I fail to see the problem.

>>54206582
Yes, and?

>>54206582
What's your issue?

>>54206611
>broken german
ONE WORD

>>54206825
The 10 different names for scout are worse, especially as they contain "if both players have units that can do this", which clearly means all the various scout flavours and will assumedly be played as such by almost everyone, but RAW a squad of domions with the "vanguard" ability and a squad of sentinels with the "scout vehicle" ability have no way of determining who makes the scout move first.

>>54206945
Eagles and honor, baby. Get some redemption. Praetorian purple is a nice look for marines.

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>>54207047
>Negromancer in shadowrun

>>54207042
>>54207047

>Niggerash raises a great legion of dead bloods and crypts

>>54207100
Harlem The Black is one of his Niggarchs.

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Can any kind anon tell me the average power points equivalent of 1000 / 1500 points? Got my compendium but the rules haven't arrived yet

>>54206392
Do they have anything else new?

>>54207116
divide by 20 and fuck off

>>54207116
50 power is roughly 1000 points, but there's potential for a lot of variation

>>54207116
In addition to >>54207128, all rules are linked in the OP. Not having read rules is no excuse.

>>54206392
Do we know the rules for these guys yet?

>>54207099
>>54207100
>>54207114
lol

What's everyones opinions on Assassin's, which ones are worth taking if you have the points. Is any one of them better than the rest.

>>54206214
True, unfortunately the other writers of Dark Imperium didn't get the memo and Emperor is now canon as an emotionless dick who never loved anyone.

>>54205846

Straight copying Ajuntapaul/10

>>54207150
They're all pretty cheap in points for what they do, but don't hit/shoot that hard in absolute terms.

>>54207116
>power points
why are people so fucking stupid as to say power points... it's fucking maddening, there is power and there are points, 2 separate systems that only breed confusion by trying to call one power points like a fucking child

That being said 50 power is roughly 1000points
and 75 is roughly 1500 pts

>>54207150
God-tier
> Eversor. Cheapest and best assassin. Will literally never disappoint you with his ability to wreck shit.
Okay Tier.
> Callidus: Like the eversor but less killy and slightly more expensive. Her command-point fuckery can be pretty good in missions where those can make or break the game.
> Cullexus: Like a Callidus, but nigh-unkillable. Will stay on the board and harass people until the game ends.
Oh shit what the fuck are you doing nigger-tier
> Vindicare: Most expensive, worst assassin. Literally just a lascannon, for 90 points. Astoundingly bad at killing characters.

>>54206851

Manlet neckbeard dected

>>54207181
I think 10,000 years of torment would be enough to make even the most charitable soul a bit touchy.

>>54206519
Plastic Steel Legion when? I need this so much.

>>54206151
ate himself to death? what?

>>54207212
Vindicares have never ever been good and it fucking kills me.

>>54207048

Dunno, indices are more a stopgap for the real thing. They probably don't care to push them longer than they must

>>54206825
>having 10 different names for feel no pain and stealth just makes more opportunities for poorly worded rules interactions.
that's bad templating, not a bad concept. Keeping all rules under the unit profile makes it easier to look up what your model can do.
Different names wouldn't matter if they had a consistent templating of rules. Which they don't. Also consistent templating but different names would let them maintain the often different rule details.
>>54207095
to be somewhat fair on that point, the rules are slightly different for different models.
Some get a move, some get set up in that phase, and the move length differs.
And it's pretty damn easy to figure out.
And rules being in the unit profile rather than looking back in the main book over and over is better.

>>54207310
Not only this but giving a unit a special rule just to say they get a 5+ armor save is stupid

>>54207278
it's the damage that makes them suck.
1d6 against characters and they'd be fine.

>>54207212

That's disappointing to hear about the Vindicare.

Which Imperial snipers are good? I'm looking at something to ally into my SOB army and my first thoughts was a Vindicare due to low model count. As snipers seem really useful this edition and sadly Stalker Boltguns never made the transition to the SOB armoury.

>>54207278
I think they've always been scared to make it good at doing what it's meant to do i.e. sniping characters, because people would cry if their speshul snowflake warlord got ventilated on turn one from across the table.

>>54207334
Ratlings. Just spam Ratlings.

>>54207331
>Not only this but giving a unit a special rule just to say they get a 5+ armor save is stupid
umm, who has that.
The invuln save thing makes sense because they wanted to keep the stat block always being an armor save to keep it clear, but I don't recall anything having a rule that give it an armor save.

>>54207334
Ratlings are the best snipers in the entire game, on account of being the cheapest. The only thing about snipers now is their ability to spam mortal wounds on anything, which makes them a somewhat mediocre Anti-everything unit. Just like 7th though, snipers are only effective when spammed.

>>54205919
FUCK. YOU. EREBUS. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54206519
Popped collars look amazing on them. I need to greenstuff some now.

>>54205999
>being a whiny oldfag
>in current year
Go away gramps

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>>54205726
being less fun

>>54207222
Armageddon got toasted and turned into a daemon world during the timeskip.

>>54205597
tg dissapoints yet again>>54205597

>>54207346
You obviously didn't play any xenos last edition.

>>54205541
Question: How pissed would the Mechanicus get at an Imperial Guard regiment known for being grease monkeys? Like, borderline Mekboyz level of getting broken shit to work? Would they be BLAM'd right away, or would someone up the chain of command try to keep them out of the Mechanicus' field of view?

>>54207433
What do you want to see you faggot. You never told us

>>54207414
I'll give you that 8th has a bucket full of problems. but Less fun? is fucking loony toons. More fun has been had with 8th in these past few weeks than in all of 7th

>>54207445
Yes i did, learn to read faggot

>>54206519
Steel Legion have always been my favourite design for a 'generic' guardsman, they're what I imagine the bulk of guard look like.

Fuck Cadians.

>>54207433
not sure anyone has the full scan, but if you want fucking single pics be polite and perhaps someone will oblige

>>54207463
I guess it really is subjective

>>54207435
aspectdar player, so no.
What are you referring to here?

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Same as >>54206093
Ideas for what I can use for 500 points of AdMech? I already have what was 1000 last edition, looking to see what I can do with them since Renegades are in fact bad.
I have a squad of rangers, a squad of vanguard, six destroyers(4 grav,2 plasma), 2 castelans, one with full dakka, the other fists and flamer, finally a Dominus for HQ.

>>54207437
The enginseer are supposedly the more practically minded tech priests anyway, admech aren't going to here about some guardsmen helping out with the machines unless they were making some pretty signficant modifications.

>>54207479
Well yeah if you're a fucking retard you'll probably see things from the perspective of a fucking retard

>>54207437
I don't think you would be able to hide something like that. Best case, they turn them into adepts.

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>>54207214
>>54206851
taller than Duncan, Only 6"1' though.

I'm also a fa/tg/uy though

>>54207519
Why the ad hominem anon? I'm pretty laiszes faire
I just dislike losing all the flavour and tactical decisions
To each their own

How do you play horde armies without making your opponent want to kill themselves every movement phase? I'm running 80+ gaunts/gants/stealers and I feel like deploying and moving make up 90% of my first few turns. Are movement trays worth it?

>>54207537
>gay homo shirt
so that's what the fully body bar was for

>>54207437
Mechanicus would throw a shit-fit. Uninitiated tinkering with machines is tech-heresy and grounds to immediate servitorisation. They don't even allow their own menials to alter machines, let alone some random Imperials.

Regiment would be handed over to the nearest forge world and lobotomised before being reassigned to shitter-unblocking duty for the rest of their lives.

Remember machines are literally sacred to the Martians, it's not like you can go 'I made it 10% more efficient' and they'll check and go 'You're right! Thanks buddy, we'll add this to the archives!', you've violated a holy object, perverted it from the Omnissiah's designs and then had the gall to claim you've improved it.

Mechanicus reacts to laymen altering machinery in the same way the medieval Catholic church reacted to laymen altering scripture.

>>54207464
YOU: NO BOOKLET. WANTS TO SEE BOOKLET
ME: HAS BOOKLET IN HAND
You expect me to take a picture of every page for your pansy ass?

>>54206993
They said a Dark Angel/Blood Angel player wont need to buy a space marine codex as all the stuff such as land raiders are covered in the Dark Angel codex.

This will be similar for Death Guard, all the models that Chaos Space Marines share will be in it too.

I have a friend I'd like to get into 40k, at least for the roleplay games. What's the best thing(s) I can show him to give him a good feel for the universe? What's the first thing anyone looking to get into this fandom should see?

>>54207517
>admech aren't going to here about some guardsmen helping out with the machines unless they were making some pretty signficant modifications.
fluff, as usual, is a bit varied on this.
Engineseers are few enough that some fluff does have guard assigned to certain machines taught various 'prayers' and 'rituals' what are basically simple maintenance and repair techniques, but memorized by route.

I'm trying to remember the source, but there is a bit of fluff where you see a field stripping and cleaning and reassembling a heavy weapon, but it's presented like he's going through a complex prayer routine.

>>54206434
>my face when when
>my face when when
Why even bother

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>>54207519
>this is your brain on 8th edition

>>54207537
>Fa/tg/uy

Wish my body looked like that. I'm as wide as you and Duncan together.

Help guys...

>>54207537
>Dark Angles t-shirt

You've arrived in Nottingham a bit too early mate, Pride isn't until the 29th.

>>54207605
>Help guys...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GGf_GlD2RY

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Best model to use as a Rogue Trader? I can't settle a suitable one to at least use as a base for conversion.

>>54207519
So... that's how all those 8th edition players are like, now that the "disgruntled old tournament guard" is gone now, huh?
Guess i know where the fluffyplayers who liked fun went to... and it's not this threaf

Dark Mechanicus?

More like Dank Mechanicus.

>>54207344
>>54207360

Yeah, Ratlings work. No difficulty in justifying why SOB and Guard are working together (And St Celestine gives guard a 6++)

Which guard tanks are considered good these days?

>>54207553
pls no bully, I really like Dark Angels.

>>54207626
>one guy on an anonymous Mongolian goat trading site
>representative of all people who enjoy an edition of a game

>>54207605
>>>/fit/
Read the sticky.

>>54207598
8th edition is not only the best edition of Warhammer 40,000 since Rogue Trader but there's also literally nothing you can do about it

>>54207647
Leman Russ.

>>54207334
Spam Ratlings for mortal wound dakka, but Skitarii Transuranic Arquebi are also pretty good and also work against light vehicles by basically being an autocannon shot with AP-2, D3D and Mortal Rending. Expensive, though, two with Ignore Cover and the mandatory ablative wounds is 107 points. Their biggest asset is probably the ability to Crit any major character to death in two or three volleys, since they'll botch an Invuln eventually. Once had two of them take six wounds off Bobby G.

>>54207697
>Really like TA design/concept
>Never built any of my Skitarii with them because they sucked balls in 7th

God damnit, time to buy another Skitarii box I guess.

>>54207537
>>54207605
>2017
>not being /fit//tg/uy masterrace
It's really mot that hard, and it makes your life much much better in about every way.

Hey /40kg/, I'm currently in the process of writing some homebrew to port the Legion Custodes stuff from HH Inferno to 8th ed since there's no chance of FW doing it any time soon. Is there any interest in posting the PDF here when I'm done?
Also, is there any particular interest in porting over the Sisters of Silence stuff? I don't have any interest in them so I have no idea if they have anything particularly unique outside of their transport.

>>54207647
Frontline tank=hellhound, banewolf if you really have a problem with MEQ.
If you really want a Russ, demolishers, battlecannons, punishers and executioner (but only if you have some source of re-roll 1s) are the okay variants, but aren't very points efficient in terms of dakka
For artillery tanks, they're all good, the manticore shines a little more than a basilisk, but a basilisk is appropriately cheaper, and you'll have more points efficient shooting from many cheap as fuck mortar teams than a wyvern, although its more survivable than them.

>>54207697

Interesting. Also tempting to go with but I think with Dominions and Exorcists, anti-tank isn't really too much of a worry for the force. Exorcists with d6 Str 8 -4 d3 wound shots do some serious work this edition now that everything is statted like MC used to be.

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Emailed FW about malanthrope rules FAQ, got the obvious response, dodged question about it being either over costed in power or under costed in points.

Which do you think it is?

Anyone got some ideas on what to do with Flash Gitz? Took forever to paint them now I wanna use 'em, but not sure if they'll be good attackers with heavy weapons.

>>54207751

I see. I might skip out on the tank then.

I was tempted to paint up a single IG tank and have them basicly be a Valkyria Chronicles-style PDF being supported by a SOB Convent.

Works fine with just infantry though. Thanks for the help.

>>54207624
Inquisitor Greyfax

>>54207751
>in terms of dakka.
They aren't primarily dakka. They're super tough and hold objectives, keep shooting, etc very well.

This shit is starting to bother me a fair bit, because a lot of people complaining about some tanks or other vehicles not having enough vehicles compaired to infantry are ignoring this pretty stupidly.
You need to balance your ability to put out dakka with your ability to put it out, but ignoring how fragile HWTs are compaired to the vehicle options is stupid.

>>54207767

With it's completely utility build with no shooting or melee ability to speak of, it's not really worth that much power, but it's definately undercosted in points.

So both.

>>54205592
>negromancer
This should be a meme. Why is this the first time I'm seeing it?

So reading through the chaos daemons rules, you don't have to pay points for the daemons you suon? You just need to devote a daemon chaeacter to sitting in the back with a long range gun and summon+shoot all day?

>>54207829
Because you're a little kid who hasn't been on the internet very long

>>54207833
The literal opposite. Why would you ever think they would be free?

>>54207833
you do have to pay points for match play.
It's under match play rules, reinforcement points.

>>54207833
Read the rulebook you fucking moron

>>54207689
8th edition is a great edition because so many units are viable now

>>54207856
Yep

>>54207787
I unironically loved the SC! formation for AM that was just one infantry squad and a Russ that gave the guardsmen 4+ Cover near it.

>>54207212
Could a Chaos Eversor work fluffwise?

>>54207591
?

>>54207051
>A guy who paints miniatures on youtube.
>Famous

Guys probably still surprised random people know his name

>>54207869

I never saw that one. That's pretty cool.

>>54207845
Yeah, I am totally going to memorize the rules for psykers when I have none. Especially when they could have included that blurb in the daemons section to begin with.

Good to know summoning is worthless though.

>>54207658
>a person of a certain group
>can't extrapolate from said person evene though the group persists of persons lile her

>>54207886
Easily. For wordbearers they make great Gal Vorbak rules.

>>54207920
Get the fuck out of our hobby you stupid piece of shit

>>54207920
Not worthless, you can basically list tailor on the fly

Guys, have you stumbled over Spanish pdf versions of the indexes and rulebook?

>>54207903
Less than 400 points for an infantry squad, a commissar, and a Russ. Not Terrible! I hope something similar exists again someday.

>>54207920

This you dumb mong
>>54207939

You can reserve 300 points then summon whatever you need at the time withing that limit.

>>54207943
You could easily take a unit, a commisar and a russ for around 400 points right now

>>54207923
>[sic] [sic] [sic]
>extrapolating from a single sample point in an outlier environment to make a prediction about the overall population statistic.

>>54207934
How about for an Iron Warriors offshoot?

Anyone figured out a way to make breacher teams effective? At first I thought they could be transported by devilfish into enemys face but realized they can't disembark after transport has moved.

>>54207936
Oh, did poor baby trigger themselves? Poor little baby, the existence of a world outside your basement must be so hard on you. Your knowledge of unrelated rules makes you very special, never let those mean kids down the block tell you otherwise.

>>54207964
Not with a built in 4+ cover save though.

>>54205726
id bet my money that the bulk of playtesting was done after the rules were shipped out to the printers

thats why youll see the effects only after codexes come out

>>54207982
lots of them. some are bound to arrive near the enemy

>>54207994
>block
One day, the septics will be dead.

question about pistols.

When in melee does it mean I can shoot my pistols (normal balistic skill) at the enemy I'm in combat with or does it mean if I have 2 attacks I can use one as a pistol and one as my melee weapon?

>>54207982

People have worked out how to make them one turn suicide units, but that's not really the same thing.

You can play Warhammer like Chess and trade pawns, but honestly it's pretty weak strategy to design a unit around one turn of use. Instead, build redundant and be willing to sacrifice.

>>54207994
Oh no, you got called stupid and you're mad because it's true. That must really suck for you.

>>54208027
You fire them in the shooting phase like any other ranged attack.

>>54208027
Shooting happens during the shooting phase. The Attacks stat references the number of melee attacks you make during the Fight phase. You shoot pistols.

Does any game go past turn 5 anymore? I always wipe by 3 or 4.

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>>54208027

>>54208027

They are shot in the shooting phase. They are less melee attacks and more an exception to the 'No shooting in melee' rule.

>>54208054
Sounds like your army sucks ass what are you running dummy

>>54207978
if they raid Imperial war ships they could have them

>>54208054
>past turn 5
In the three games I played, none went past turn 5. I no one was tabled on any of them, but by the bottom of turn 5 the games shifted enough that one side typically conceeds.
Not that the games were totally one sided, they were back and forth and very close, but at that point we can look at the objectives and see that one side wasn't going to be able to get ahead without truly crazy dice.

This is pretty normal though, and in a tournament I would have kept playing as how much you win by matters. And in the three games I time was a factor.

This isn't that bad, games have a decent chance of just ending bottom of 5 anyways.

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>People actually buy the rulebooks

How do Orks get their names? Orks lack a traditional family structure Humans, Eldar, and Tau have, so how do they get names?

Are the only painted armys that get posted here guard?

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How much are the first strike and know no fear boxes expected to cost in the UK?
>tfw Reivers can get a stalker pattern bolter but they only have monopose

>>54205795
>>54205799
>>54205846
>>54206945
>>54208190
nyet

>>54206551
there are some reasonable things there but
>plasma explodes at night
triggers the fuck outta me because the hit penalty represents trying to shoot at a target in the dark (i.e. you miss alot) and guess what happens when you get trigger happy with plasma?

>>54208182
Basic descriptors of appearance/personality, actions they have made, or they just loot em.

>>54208215

Most of the whining is shitters upset they can't fire overcharge all the time in every scenario without it being a bad idea

>>54206633
They are in units of 5-10

>>54205919
Fuck you Erebus

>>54208192
>Reivers can get a stalker pattern bolter
You fukken wat

>>54206898
Efficiency isn't the issue in this case (though the damage ceiling is still really high). It's just the metric fuckload of dice involved.

The worst-case last edition would be 50 FRFSRF Conscripts with Prescience but in practice you didn't bunch up because templates. In 8e, you can get 200 rolls to hit for 150 points. You can add "reroll 1s" to this. Copypaste this and even if you lose, you will drag your opponent down in boredom.

>>54208215
Shouldn't plasma overcharge more frequently if you have lower BS then?

>>54206141
The Emperor is a psychic amalgam created by Mighty Malcador tho.
He is humanities stand.

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>>54208240
I SPEAK DEM TRUTHS

>>54208212
One fuckhead isnt an army

>>54208261
Its probably taking about the captains

Starting the hated blue people, their "nerfing" left lots of cheap things online.
I already have:
Riptide
6 stealth suits
Commander
Cadre fireblade
Ethereal
3 crisis suits
20 pathfinders
36 fire warriors
What else should I add?

>>54208190
Yes and thats why gaylords hate them

>FW errata/FAQ potentially this weekend

Oh boy, can't wait for either a second trainwreck or a bible of corrections.
Or the most likely scenario, delayed till September

>>54208278
Maybe. The other two weapons are Reiver kit though

>>54208212
>army
cmon anon

>>54208192
25 for first strike, I think its 30 for know no fear but unsure.

>>54208261
>NL Terror Squads
>But loyalist
Fucking kill me

>>54208313
No way Know no Fear is £30. The AoS equiv was £50

>>54208285

Drones and ghostkeels

>>54208164
Wow do you download them for free?? You're so smart I would have never thought of that. You are a superior being, so evolved. Here I am throwing all this money away for nothing.

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>>54208333
>Chadmarines with Transsonic Cannons that strip cover bonuses
>Chadmarines with Vicious Chainblades that cap enemy armor saves
>Chadmarines piloting remote suits with powerful force fields and special armor-piercing bolters
What's wrong, goyim?

>>54207496
someone at my store was using 5 rangers with one or two of the snipers, cawl, and a dominus for 500 points.

>>54208295

It'll be both, a mass litany of corrections -and- a second trainwreck.

>>54208333

And probably better too
Buy up, jobber.

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I am currently a poor student with green stuff and some bits, so I decided to make my own parts.

How did I fare?

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Okay, what can I convert this thing into, given I don't play Grey Knights? My first thought is a Thanatar.

>>54208295
>SoB tanks get AoF back
>big cow is in par with superior regarding triple wielding potential.
>repentias reduce in points.

I can dream.

Also is my math wrong but SB Spam and Immolator spam seem to be oddly good.

Eldar will get "mon'keigh halfbreed" as a troops choice.
Armed with weaker versions of the aspect warriors, for example a flamer instead of a meltagun.
They're also 5 points a model.
They are exodite and dark eldar exclusive mind you.

>>54208456
haha more like point hike and rule change that makes it unable to shoot if it moved the subsequent turn

>>54206164
>>>54206141
>When you summaraize it this way it just makes him sound soft and incompetent.

Human. The term you're looking for is human.

>>54208295
>tau commanders are now twice their current points values
>flamers on suits can no longer be taken

>>54208422
Kill it with fire/10

>>54208400
I'm pretty sure I fought that guy, was his stuff painted green?

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>>54208496

>FW

>>54208496
neither are from FW

>>54208512
>>54208516
But they are. At least some variants.

>>54208295
Wait there's a FW errata coming this weekend ?! That's ... unbelievably fast for them. Did GW threaten to take away all their resin dust unless they finished a FAQ in time ?

>>54208295

Someone remind me why GW + FW doesn't sell digital versions with updates to them, instead of forcing me to print and pin corrections to my fucking rulebooks?