Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>54193154
First for the Drukhari!

who is going to get new models with their codices?
gw said some will soon

>>54193178
WHO'S LINE IS IT ANYWAY WHERE THE NAMES ARE MADE UP AND THE FLUFF DON'T MATTER

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coming up with my own warband, here's the general idea of the scheme + warband badge

it's supposed to be metallic rather than gray tho

whaddaya think

Will deathstrikes get buffed ever?
As in buffed to a useful state?

>>54193189
Well, Death Guard already have, Space Marines already have and wasn't there something about a new faction? They certainly will.

>>54193194
I like the contrast of the purple on silver but the green parts look odd

**nth for an answer to this
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>>54193194
Seems fucked but then I remembered Chaos so fuck yeah

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10th for CUTEDAR!

>>54193218
My main tip for new players is that you definitely need reliable "anti-tank" (which also covers anti-armor and anti-monster and anti-anything hard to kill with a lot of wounds)

Now in your case you are getting a codex really soon so I don't advise you buy anything until the Death Guard codex comes out, but as far as what I like, I like Havocs with missile launchers as anti-tank for CSM. Can't remember off the top if Death Guard get Havocs but missile launchers are good. Your Plague Marines can take plasma guns too which make good anti-everything these days.

>>54193189
Well the Daemon Primarchs seem to be showing up.
Maybe plastic Noise Marines for Emp's Children?

>>54193244
this is the kind of thing that brought us slaanesh

not played 40k since 5th edition and I'm getting back into it with 8th, gone for marines because they're the beginner army.
Just wondering what's worth getting after Dark Imperium

Daily reminder that manlets will eventually be SQUATTED

>>54193255
Wouldn't that be fucking nice. I only need roughly 40 of the fucking things

Anyone have any cool ideas for the fluff on a scions regiment? I'm doing a desert tan paint scheme and they're going alongside my iron hands and mechanicum in the future

>>54193227
There is an iOS/Tablet/Phone video game called Speed Freeks or Speed Freakz or some shit coming out. You're an Ork, you build a vehicle, guns and all that jazz, then race other Orks in their vehicles. Shooting shit up. In other words; Gorkamorka video jame.

>>54193265
Yes? It's literally written in the fluff in the Dark Imperium book. Why are you spouting such obvious information that even Captain Obvious himself doesn't comment?

>>54193264
Only primaris because >>54193265 will happen by 9th ed.

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conscripts are a meme.

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>>54193258
Nah that was something else :3

>>54193264
8th is fun man, welcome back. I'd suggest getting something that will either kill vehicles (like I suggested to the death guard guy) or a vehicle or two. Used Dreds are pretty common at places like noble knight for reasonably cheap

>>54193252
Thanks a ton for this, ill be sure to wait until I know what I am getting into. Cheers friend!

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Thoughts?

I wanted a non traditional non monochromatic themed around all the angriest chapter's colors.

Red for Flesh Tearers, Yellow for Angry Marines, Orange because why the fuck not, and finally a little green jewel for the Salamanders, my homies that are also flaming rage-o-holics.

>>54193265
what you mean to say is that eventually all of the old marine models will have primaris stat lines and will continue to be played regardless of new models existing.

>>54193284
yep that's heresy

>>54193302
Looks like the celebrants

>>54193295
Hell yeah man good luck. I'm super psyched about the new death guard stuff as it all looks so cool, hope you kick some ass!

>>54193271
I already have 15 from the resin upgrade sprews, but yeah, it'd be nice.
I'd also love to get Doomrider back but that's just me wanting something they won't give.

>>54193302
It's metroid

>>54193265
Why eventually?
Primaris ftw, let's make the "master of none" race even more expensive and obsolete troop choices.

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>>54193312
Wrong again!

>>54193194
>>54193205
>>54193206
I'm thinking maybe I'll do black inside the shoulderpads

I wanted the green to complement the purple, it complements on the color wheel. I think.

>>54193328
Hey, nothing stopping you from making an EXTREME biker lord!

>>54193265
>will
more like are

>>54193255
I wonder when those will release
DG was announced in like April, and here we are in July still waiting for more of them to release

>>54193314
Ah fuck wow that is similar. Whatever, those guys are fuckin' cool looking too. Oh well, I guess everything has been done in 40k, really.

My last paint idea was basically the Reclaimers, and I bailed on that after being told so.

>>54193329
Samus is all orange, no? Even so, w/e. I think it still works.

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>>54193341
That's not a bad idea, I'd also like the rules for him though.
But I suppose a Slaanesh Herald head, if painted correctly, would make a good head.
>>54193348
The way it's going we'll probably get Fulgrim by Slaaneshmas.

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>>54193189
Please gue'vesa.
I'd even settle for an upgrade pack.

>>54193388
Man if we actually got a codex by Dec that would be nuts, but I doubt it. Never know though! We do have a primarch model to sell and GW just looooooooooooves selling expensive new models!

>>54193375
well if you like orange, you could focus more on that because aside from those flukes, there aren't a whole lot of chapters that use orange.

t. spent hours autistically searching wikis and books for orange power armor

>>54193284
Hehehehe fug

>>54193405
I wouldn't be able to stop myself from buying a Fulgrim model.
I'll probably be disappointed though, they seem to have a hard-on for making Slaanesh models ugly and handwaving it as "oh the beauty is just a GLAMOUR, they're not REALLY pretty" the cunts.

>>54193399
Why do you want them so bad? Just use Catachan models and use the Kroot rules.

Slowpoking and cleaning up the 7e Articles on 1d4chan...

...so alone.

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>>54193383
You're pretty close

>>54193424
Seems pointless but I'll give you credit for actually doing it instead of bitching that nobody's doing it like the rest of this general would.

>>54193424
>1dleddit
Out

Reposting from last thread:

Looking for some lore and mechanics advice for a campaign I'm trying to set up for myself and two friends.

Lore: I play T'au (Bork'an), while my friends play Tzeentch Daemons and Necrons (he's thinking Sautekh). I think this could potentially work out with the relative locations of the T'au empire, the Sautekh empire, and the Hadex Anomaly. I was thinking of centering the conflict around one specific planet that had some macguffin that we're trying to fight over? As will be illustrated below, I'm considering having Tzeentch flip-flop between helping the two sides. I'm aware both Necrons and T'au don't take kindly to Daemons (last I heard, T'au don't even publicly recognize their existence), but I figure that if the stakes are dire enough, that they won't turn down somebody else attacking their primary opponent.

Mechanics: One of my principle concerns is is that the Tzeentch player is a much more casual player than the other two of us (originally chose Daemons due to high-RNG along with diverse model range). I've thought of a few solutions to this:
1. Give the Tzeentch player a handicap, such as extra points or CP, and do a standard FFA
2. Have the Tzeentch player flip-flop sides in 2v1 matches, where the single player gets bonus points (750+750 vs 1250, or something similar)
3. Play up the Tzeentch, and have them not competing with the other two for their main objective of any given match, but instead having a secret objective each game, and possibly a slightly smaller force. IE "Ensure both of their warlords die," "Ensure player A/B wins, but only by a margin of at most 3 VP, " "Ensure that each other player loses at least X units before the game ends", "At the start of turn four, flip a coin in secret to determine player A or player B. Ensure that player wins." etc. etc.
(cont)

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Think it's time for sleep. Enjoy.

>>54193438
>>54193412

Stupid Sexy Samus

Eh, I could just go full pull and orange it up then, and copypasta the Chozo suit.

I too, looked everywhere for Orange marines.

>>54193423
Because I want to play the human auxiliaries as well.
Guess I can try your idea.

>>54193459
(Cont)
I'm partial to option 3 for the Tzeentchian flavor and putting direct pressure off of the weakest player, but clearly it requires the most additional rules to make work.

As for the rest of the campaign, I really like the Grid style; I was thinking perhaps a series of missions decided grid-style with relatively low point-levels, culminating in a larger game with bonuses based on how many games were won previously? Depending on what was decided for the Tzeentchian player, they could potentially enter into this fight as a full 3-way FFA with bonus points based on previously successful objectives?

As an added option, I'm thinking about having it such that the T'au and Necrons decide their lists at the same time they pick which strategy they're using, as they have a rough but not perfect understanding of what sorts of missions they may find themselves in.

Suggestions, comments? Does this sound like an interesting campaign?

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>>54193194
Youre going to have a hard time mixing fuscia and neon green in a way that looks intentional. Not impossible but those are colors that the human brain doesnt like to process together and not in a trippy way, it just ends up looking accidental even if your work is clean.

If you end up doing it I wouldnt make the metal dominant, if you are using multiple colors that bold you either need a legitimately recessive color like black or you need to go all the way and make the primary color unobtrusive like white. The metal will get confused.

>>54193196
They seem like they could pay for themselves pretty easily, they just need to be facing an army with a lot of high value targets. It's great against banana men.

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>not giving all your tau anime poses

>>54193265
BUT SQUATS ARE HOW YOU GET THAT HUGE ANON

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>>54193448
but if it gets cleaned up it won't be 1d4ddit anymore

>>54193420
Maybe, but did you read Dark Imperium? They poured on the Slaanesh super hard in Fulgrim's description there.

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>>54193412
Got an old White Dwarf with a space marine painting guide. The blood angels we're orange. My scanner is broken so here's a crappy phone pic

>>54193520
It looks more like he's face palming.

>>54193337
complimentary colors on the color wheel don't mean they work well together, it just means they're not directly across but not adjacent. A lot of complimentary colors look awful together. Green/Red for instance.

>>54193520
>Le facepalm

His thoughts on your posing are clear anon.

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>>54193542
I know, but if I expect disappointment I might be pleasantly surprised.

>>54193546
yeah I know

there are some others I can think of like The Pyre CSM but overall it's a fairly uncommon color on power armor

>>54193474
Sure give it a whirl

>>54193565
Ha! Wise words

>ancient squat airship called the overlord existed once
>primarines dropship called the overlord
what did GW mean by this

>>54193520
Terrible JoJo posing.
>legs too far apart (even for Polnareff standards)
>Facepalming
>"What am I doing with my right arm
>back is barely arched/turned

Apply yourself.

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>>54193520
PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

Hey guys it turns out my entire motor pool can fit in one list.

Spearhead detachment, 2000 points

HQ: Techmarine with conversion beamer, boltgun, power axe

Elites: Contemptor dreadnought with kheres assault cannon
Relic sicaran venator with 3x heavy bolters

Heavy support:
Predator with twin lascannon, two heavy bolters
Predator with twin lascannon, two heavy bolters
Predator with predator autocannon, two heavy bolters
Vindicator with storm bolter
Leman russ with battle cannon, lascannon, 2 heavy bolters

Flyers:
Stormraven with twin assault cannons, hurricane bolters, twin multimelta

Dedicated transport:
Razorback with twin assault cannon, stormbolter
Razorback with twin assault cannon, stormbolter
Chimera with multilaser, heavy bolter, stormbolter

>>54193592
Yall are too harsh on the poor man, no GW model can pose with a back arched THAT much

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Please rate review the army I'm starting up. It's going to be painted like a Vietnam era American army force, except orks. I've taken to calling them Morks Ghosts.

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>>54193612
>motor pool
>not IG

nigga wut

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>>54193484

>>54193484
Imma make the shoulderpad insides black. Also my plan was to do like duncan in a dreadnought vid he made and just drybrush a bit of leadbelcher over chaos black spray so the recesses will be dark. it's going to be pretty dark versus solid metal color

>>54193612
Fuck yeah. Vehicle lists can be surprisingly strong now too.

>>54193712
nice that sounds good

R8 my 1000 point with some to spare list

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [58 PL, 968pts] ++

+ HQ +

Tank Commander [13 PL, 211pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters
. Command Punisher: Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon

+ Fast Attack +

Hellhounds [5 PL, 110pts]
. Hellhound: Heavy Flamer, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Hydras [6 PL, 123pts]
. Hydra: Heavy Bolter

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [22 PL, 348pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Demolishers [12 PL, 176pts]
. Leman Russ Punisher: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters, Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon

++ Total: [58 PL, 968pts] ++

I can swap out the hydra, but I like it so fuck you

>>54193712
its not the gray palette of the metallic that would cause the problems, its the visual complexity or the metallic flecks mixed with two ultra dominant color choices that the human eye has a LOT of trouble recognizing shades or depth in.

Theres a reason you tend to see those colors in cartoons or things like the light lining in TRON. Humans are very bad at actually interpreting them when they are in any real level of depth or complexity. Without going for a fully acryllic look like on tzeentch demons its going to look off to most people.

There are also no psychological connotations to that color combination other than 'rave' or 'neon' so you won't get to borrow from established learned color associations in your audience (mostly since the metallic doesn't support those inferences).

>>54193706
>The follow up frame to this is too shocking even for 4chan

>>54193769
>>54193712

But I don't mean to make it sound impossible, if you work clean you could pull it off and have a very unique looking force.

>>54193189
Guard are getting plastic steel legion

>>54193796
Before or after the plastic thunderhawk release ?

>>54193273
WW2 SAS in space

>>54193783
im pretty sure thats just how howling griffons are made anon

Thinking about a Thousand Sons list for a 2000pt tournament on the 15th. How does this sound?
Battallion Detachment, total of 6CP
1 daemon Prince with warp bolter, wings, and talons-189pts
1 Exalted Sorcerer on a Disc-163pts
1 TDA Sorcerer with combi-plasma-119pts

Two 10-man Rubric Marine units with gatling guns-243pts each
Three units of 10 Tzaangors-70pts each
One unit of Scarab Occult Terminators with hellfire missiles -246pts
A five-man unit of Chaos spawn-165
Las Predator-204pts
Helldrake with baleflamer-215pts.
It comes out to 1997/2000. I can't think of anything I'm missing, got the anti-tank, anti-air, anti-MC with smites, and close combat screens with the tzaangors and spawn.

>>54193796
man don't do this to me, im a mechanized and Armour guard, Plastic Steel Legion would actually make me cum

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>>54193796
Fuck off

Really? Source?

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Iron Warriors list, trying to be fluffy.

>>54193273
All 100 of them ordered the chicken dinner at a really big wedding and were stuffed into a plane and dropped on a mysterious island full of guns and old shitty cars

How do you think an Ork army composed mostly of vehicles and Nobz in trukks for infantry would fare?
I love Orks aesthetically, but don't want to paint 100s of boyz or deal with the hassle of moving all those models and rolling all those dice.

>>54193809
They come inside it

>>54193678
That seems like a LOT of protection on that Big Mek. Mega Armor and a Kustom Forcefield? It might be part of your plan, but I'd probably let whatever mob he's with soak up most/all of the fire, and not worry too much about personal armor for him.

Am I reading the list or the index wrong on Deffdreads and dreadklaws? Because the index says your first klaw should be 30, and each extra klaw should be 15. I also personally wouldn't run shootas and slugga/choppas in the same mob, I'd do one or the other. That way one mob can focus on shooting and holding and objective, while the other focuses purely on getting into the fight. As is, both mobs are flexable, but that's at the cost of being less effective at either job. You probably want to specialize.

Looks neat otherwise, and bare in mind I haven't actually gotten to play 8th yet. That's just the advice that makes sense to me.

>>54193816
Seems pretty good to me. The spawn are pretty expensive for their survivability so make sure to use them smart.

>>54193701
I sold my IG off in 5th edition and stopped playing until the start of this year when I started up the iron hands army I always kinda wanted to run. So I've got 500 points of guard left over that I put into my marine lists.

>>54193834
The only weakness would probably be the nobz themselves, right now they're pretty bad for their cost compared to basic boyz.

The wartrakks are all really good for cost, the deff dreds seem useable, kans are awesome, and the battlewagon is pretty sturdy with the ard top. It'd be a pretty strong force, even the gorkanaut looks like it could pull its weight.

>>54193834
Dope. Skorcha Nobz are incredibly efficient at shooting, and big choopa nobz are amazing at melee. It is going to be a short range army, but deadly when it gets there.

>>54193520
he looks more like he's doing the John Cena "cant see me"

>>54193826
Looks pretty decent to me.

>>54193796
I wouldn't be surprised. They'll probably be appropriately proportioned with primaris in mind, too.

>>54193871
I disagree here. Skorcha Nobz can stay in their trukks and fire 5-10 heavy flamers at a target as they drive by. Melee is more anti-vehicle focused, because melee can't stand against that many heavy flamers.

>>54193851
The Big Mek is with the dreads, the Morkanaut is with the boyz, the idea was to hopefully have the entire army given kff protection at all times. Its true though that I probably could do without the mega armor, though the point increase is pretty low compared to the stat boost.

>Am I reading the list or the index wrong on Deffdreads and dreadklaws? Because the index says your first klaw should be 30, and each extra klaw should be 15.

Yeah, thats what battlescribe is doing, though im not sure the pdf is printed to show that well.

You're probably right about wanting something to stay back and hold, i hadn't thought of that. I was mixing squads so i could take the losses on the shootaz in the back but still get a round or 2 of shooting out of them before they die. Losing a slugga means i lost a model with it never contributing anything at all.

>Looks neat otherwise, and bare in mind I haven't actually gotten to play 8th yet. That's just the advice that makes sense to me.

You had a good point on the backfield holder. Ive only played 3 games so far with other armies but that does seem to be something I should think about unless my plan is to just sweep the enemy every game.

>>54193901
You can get that with burna boyz wayyyyy cheaper though and the opponent is probably going to down the trukks first since theyre the easiest to kill and the largest point sink with nobz inside.

>>54193945
Burna boyz cost 200% as much for the same effectiveness. Do the math on skorchas vs. burnas.

So I have a question...

How do Underwater Necrons differ from your average, everyday Necrons?

>>54193925
>The Big Mek is with the dreads, the Morkanaut is with the boyz, the idea was to hopefully have the entire army given kff protection at all times.
Sounds like a solid plan. Good luck out there!

Does anyone have a picture of a hive tyrant next to a toxicrene?
Or maybe at least just the size difference between their heads?

>>54193870
I went the opposite way, collected BA for years before then started an IG mechanized army >>54193744
That's what I got so far

>>54193769
>>54193794
well thanks for posting, something to think about. if it's terrible at least I know why. I guess I have my work cut out for me and the real test will be when I post pics

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>>54193531

>>54193963
They're rustier

>>54193963
More salt

>>54193816
Ok, is this a 7th edition list or did you mess up all the point values ?!
>notices '6CP'

An exalted sorcerer on disk is 161 points, not 163.

And I honestly hope that TDA Sorcerer doesn't mean Tactical Dreadnought Armoured Sorcerer, because not only is the point value completely wrong in that case, there is no fucking reason to take one of those when an Exalted Sorcerer on disk is cheaper and better in every single way but the armoursave ... specially when you already have an Exalted Sorcerer and a Daemon Prince in the army.

>>54193958
You can get 18 burna boyz for the cost of 5 skorchas

36 skorcha shots avg vs 17.5 skorcha

against t 4 thats 18 skorcha wounds vs 12 skorcha

against armor 3+ thats 6 burna wounds vs 6 skorcha wounds

Except the burna boyz have 18 t4 wounds themselves vs 10 from the nobz. Burnas win on attacks too.

The math was wayyyyyy close than I expected, though. I had thought burnas were d6 also.

>>54193994
the truth is still the truth even when it's couched in the spray paint tool and comic sans

>>54193958
Burna boy
2 hits
50% chance of wound against meq
1/3 of meq failing save
14 points.

Skorcha
4 hits
2/3 chance to wound
50% pen
25 points.

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>>54193836
So would I ... so would I

>>54193958
>>54194036

I kept saying skorcha instead of burna, left column with more but weaker shots is obviously burnas.

And I get that you cant make a squad of 18 or put 18 in a trukk, but im mostly just trying to compare gun efficacy there.

>>54193991
Good luck anon, I believe in you.

>>54193857
What is "smart use" of spawn? I try to stick them to cover and either tarpit a big melee unit or kill a central shooty unit like destroyers or Devastators.

>>54194045
How are you getting a skorcha on a nob? I thought they could only take 20 point combi skorchas. Also, d6 does not average to 4 and both guns are identical against t3 for wounding.

>>54194036
Gou are forgetting to factor in the trukks, but yes burnas on foot are better than foot nobz.

>>54194032
It should be 8th, but I'm playing with points on battlescribe. I wanted to drop in a sorcerer with Warptime so the Scarab Occult could get a first turn charge, I could certinly add another Disc Sorcerer.

>>54193189
for the most part I'd expect it to be finishing off moving units to plastic.

so Tyranids for example will probably just get a biovores/pyrovores 3 mini kit plus Red terror and deathleaper/lictor character blisters. which is the last of their finecast.


for now I'd expect the only new stuff to be for the new factions like deathguard.

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>>54193991
Check out vaporwave art for a lot of instances of that color combo being put into effect. Other artistic inspiration I can think of would be splatoon sometimes or the most recent TRON film.

>>54193520

Maybe I'm a fag, but my first thought was Smooth Criminal.

>>54193302
It looks like an imperial fist got partly flavor blasted by one of those omni-toasters from the goldfish commercials

>>54194113
... You don't want to charge with Scarab Occult terminators. There melee damage output is fucking pathethic, it's just two regular powersword attacks each. Even their own Inferno Combi-Bolters do more damage. Even a tactical squad can bog them down for a good chuck of the game in close combat.

>>54194083
>Don't know about vaping but apparently he pit Ferrus Manus against someone playing Necrons in a 1000 point game

Yep sounds like him. Do you happen to know if he is loaded? Pretty sure I know this guy too.

Responding to anon last thread who asked about the WAAC Krieg player at the Frisco TX GW:

I don't know about if he vapes, and I'm not too well-versed in 7th edition rules to know if he cheated when I played with him, but he apparently used Ferrus Manus in a 1500 point game against someone playing Necrons, and I have been told by others that his interpretation of the rules can be very "flexible".

>>54194222
Oh yeah, his parents are pretty loaded.

>>54194246
I played him the ONE time I drove through town and just stopped by because I hadnt been to that store yet. He is a King-Tier Faggot.

>>54194246
>>54194222

Whoops, you moved to this thread before I did.

I think it was actually 1500 points, not 1000, but the point still stands. Plus it was just a necron CAD.

Anyone have the dark vengeance 8th edition conversion book with th e data sheets for the named characters? Tyia!

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I haven't played 8th and I have no idea how effective any of this is. Mostly it's just rule of cool and I'm not *super* worried about competition but pointers never hurt. Half of these units are just stuff I have from 6th/7th mindset.

2000 points spearhead detachment

HQ:
Chaos Lord (Jump Pack, Lightning Claw, Power Fist) 122

TROOPS:
19 Chaos Cultists (Champion: Autopistol/Brutal Assault Weapon) 95
5 Chaos Space Marines (Champion: Combi-plasma, Plasma Gun) 93
10 Chaos Space Marines (Champion: Plasma Pistol/Power Fist, Heavy Bolter, Icon, Plasma Gun) 190

ELITES:
5 Chaos Terminators (Champion: Combi-plasma, 3 Combi-plasmas, Reaper Autocannon) 258
Helbrute 139

FAST ATTACK:
9 Raptors (Champion: Power Sword, 2 Flamers) 175

HEAVY SUPPORT:
Chaos Vindicator 160
Defiler (Havoc Launcher, Twin Heavy Bolter) 244
5 Havocs (4 Lascannons) 165
Forgefiend 193

DEDICATED TRANSPORT:
Chaos Rhino (Havoc Launcher) 83
Chaos Rhino (Havoc Launcher) 83

>>54194246
>>54194285
Now I just stick to the Round Rock store or the one in South Austin. Both of them are great and both only have 1 WAAC-esque guy that plays there, and the Round Rock one is just because he plays Ynnari and soulbursts and fields nothing but Yvraine, Dark Reapers, and Fire Dragons. The South Austin WAAC fag is just a big douche.

>>54194088
That works, I just mean don't put them in a position where they are the only thing worth shooting at because they'll dissolve really quick. I like using things like that (though I run fiends of slaanesh in that same type of usage) as a damned if you do damned if you don't choice for my opponent, as I'm advancing something I do like I advance them also, like you've got your heldrake, those spawn and some smiters, and the terminators, get them all in the mix at the same time and force your opponent to choose what to shoot at and the spawn will definitely end up surviving long enough to do a ton of damage and make their points back.

Sure, if your opponent murders all the spawn better them than something important, but it can be a little hard to actually get damage with them.

>>54194285
Yeah, yeah. Also he has a top bun that makes him look like a faggot and a sleazy yoga teacher.

>>54194304
Who cares it's necrons lol

>>54194320
>>54194304
>>54194285
>>54194278
>>54194246
>>54194222
Our whole store actually migrated both due to him, and the previous GW manager moving over(He is an awsome guy) to a new store.

So he is just sitting there at that GW rotting apparently, with the new Red-shirt who sounds pretty shitty.

He started coming up to the local Infinity store now, which is sad, though he doesn't really play there much I guess, just does D and D.

2 weeks ago he game up to the usual LGS because an old friend invited him(Don't know why) and he looked like he was on meth and was acting strange.

>>54194308
Drop or change forgefiend to maulerfiend
forgefiends are garbage now

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Had a game today against space marines (An ultramarines successor that still used ultramarines named characters)
>I'm using DE, 48PL vs his 49(he wanted to do PL over points for some reason)
>doing maelstrom - contact lost
>he goes first
>his vindicator tank manages to one-shot my ravager with his demolisher cannon
>drop my raider to 3 wounds
>my turn, deepstrike my hellions around the vindicator, he deepstriked his librarian fairly close to my incubi/succubus raider
>assault the librarian, kill it
>assault the vindicator, it dodges every single wound somehow
>his turn, he blows up my raider
>my turn, trueborn and scourges take out his rhino
>assault my hellions into his vindicator(containing cronus), while it's stuck next to a ruin and a barricade
>it's also super close to his deployment edge
>manage to have my hellions surround the tank to keep him pinned in
>wipe out the marine squad that was in his rhino with my succubus and incubi
>lose my incubi to morale though
>have to call it after turn 3
>manage to kill the vindicator with my scourges after I hit and run my hellions on my turn
>bring cronus to 1W
>my succubus dies assaulting his primaris marines alone(I was trying to just kill enough to force and fail a leadership test for tactical objective

my final field was 2 squads of hellions(+1A squad had 4, +1STR had 3 left), 1 squad of scourges(3 left), 1 venom(3W left), 1 squad of trueborn(5)

his was chronus with 1W, a squad of primaris marines with 3.5 marines(4 but one had a wound taken), and a squad of 10 marines

score 4-2(I had 3 points, plus linebreaker, he had first blood and slay the warlord)

I fucking LOVE hellions now.

>>54194316
>>54194285

When I played against Krieg Kid, I had just started 40k. I play melee focused SM, and at the time only had around 1000 pts, no transports.

The entire time he was giving me a play-by-play of all the ways his army could kill mine. "Well because of this rule I can combine these squads" or something like that, and proceeded to spread his guys across the entire board, so there wasn't anything I could do to evade fire, in addition to other things.

In hindsight, I think he wasn't playing too fair, seeing as my list was so lacking and I was so inexperienced.

>>54194383
Why do you think they are worthless now? No more triple blast template?

I think they were always worthless...

>>54194317
Perfect, thanks for the advice anon.

What's the standard point size for games nowadays?

>>54194415
Good luck out there!

>>54194396
hits on 4s, if it EVER moves hits on 5s

200 pts for an immobile gun platform...yay

>>54194372

Regarding the shitty red shirt, are you guys talking about the on-line guys who were filling in for Moses until the new manager was hired, or the new manager Kevin? The on call guys were pretty cool IMO.

>>54194419
1875

>>54194419
2000

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>>54193979
Source: 10 seconds in google

Its more closer to the size of the exocrine/haruspex

>>54194389
Steady 2 damage is pretty nice. With Gangs of Commorragh being as cheap as it is, I might go for a full gangster army.

>>54194419
1473.8

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Painted my first model. I have some detail to work on but it's mostly done.

lascannon venerable dread or las devastator squad for camping backfield objectives?

>>54194419
5000
Poorfags need not apply.

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>>54193813
Talking shit about the best obscure chapter are you?
I bet you don't even CHIVALRY.

>>54194439
Yeah I agree that really sucks. I tried running Prescience to go with mine the time I ran one in 8th and never got the cast off :-/

I will say they are pretty tough now, but yeah I don't really feel like defilers or forgefiends are worth bringing right now really because they don't land very many hits, though twin heavy flamer of defiler is pretty brutal.

>>54193809
At the same time as plastic sisters.

>>54194477
looking good anon

>>54194443
*On call guys.

Specifically Stephen, he was pretty cool.

>>54194419
100 power//2000 points.

>>54194477
That brown looks a bit thicc m8

You paint your thins don't you?

>>54194477
Not bad for a first try. You might wanna drybrush the metal with a lighter metal colour.

>>54194477
Looks pretty damn good for your first mini. Like you said, you need to do a bit of detail work, looks like you need a wash and highlight on at least the metal and you missed a spot or two on his pants.

>>54194391
Reminds me of my first game, I had finished painting my Start Collecting: Necrons and the South Austin Waac-fag sent his Raiders across the table to gun down my Overlord and prevent me from bringing back anything using the Start Collecting special rule formation thing that lets you bring back a unit from the dead to complete size once per unit per game for the units that are part of the formation. Then tabled me turn 2 with psychic powers and soulburst.

>>54194443
The on-call guys all quit, they all followed Moe to TTS and now either work with him, or come in to help every so often.

And as far as I know Kevin quit awhile ago, but I could be getting that conversation wrong.

The guy that currently works there is some bald guy, I personally have not met him but everyone who has gone to the store since he started working there tells me he is pretty bad. One friend apparently really made him made because he was just hanging out in the store. Since GW headquarters moved down here he is probably under tons of pressure, after all that is why Moe left, and several other managers I have known.

>>54194507
Do they come in those SoB too :^)

>>54194419
50 or 100 PL usually

>>54194519
Personally, I loved Mark a ton.

But Stephen was great for when I wanted to talk about and/or play LOTR.

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Anyone have pics of unusual/cool Tau paintjobs?

>>54194534
>>54194443
My bad, Kevin is the name of the new-redshirt too. There was an on-call guy that took Moe's spot for awhile also named Kevin, my bad.

>>54194573
>Tau
>Painted

Good one anon.

How's my list for the league my flgs is having
++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Tyranids) [22 PL, 440pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Scythed Hierodule [22 PL, 440pts]: 2x Massive Scything Talon

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [54 PL, 1059pts] ++

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [10 PL, 240pts]: Adrenal Glands, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Monstrous Boneswords, Power: Catalyst, Power: The Horror, Prehensile Pincer Tail, Toxin Sacs, Wings

The Swarmlord [15 PL, 300pts]

+ Troops +

Hormagaunts [3 PL, 50pts]: 10x Hormagaunt

Termagants [3 PL, 40pts]: 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)

Tyranid Warriors [5 PL, 90pts]

.. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Flesh Hooks, Scything Talons

.. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Flesh Hooks, Scything Talons

.. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Flesh Hooks, Scything Talons

+ Elites +

Tyrant Guard [7 PL, 111pts]

.. Tyrant Guard: Rending Claws, Scything Talons

.. Tyrant Guard: Rending Claws, Scything Talons

.. Tyrant Guard: Rending Claws, Scything Talons

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [11 PL, 228pts]: Bio-plasmic Cannon, Powerful Limbs

++ Total: [76 PL, 1499pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

>>54194439
w8 walkers don't ignore the -1 BS for moving with heavy weapons? actually are walkers even still a thing

what the HECK

>>54194521
Yeah I've seen the horror stories.
>>54194510
>>54194523
>>54194528
Thanks. This took a lot longer than I thought it would. Plus orks have so many damn models I'll be working on these for a while.

>>54194534
The bald guy is Kevin. He is still there.

I haven't had that experience with him this far. He seems just me to me so far.

>>54194573
Any paintjob on tau is unusual

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>>54194573
Tron Tau always was a favorite of mine.

>>54194246
Are you talking about Gage?

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>>54194610

>>54194565
Mark was cool as well. Did he go to work at TTS with Moses?

During the period when I was starting out there were only the on-call guys, and the gaming scene was pretty dead. I mostly went just to talk about random stuff with Stephen.

>>54194591

I haven't looked at every single unit but my impression so far is that the units that get to ignore the moving and firing penalty are the sort that had at least one AV14 facing in previous editions.

So, Land Raiders, Russes, Battlewagons, etc.

>>54194611
Damn that is fucking sick
I love the bases

>>54194606
*Meh

>>54194419
still 1500 or 2k points.
which is 75 or 100 PL.

what type of people do you hate to play against /tg/?
for me its the ones who commentate over everything so loudly and who tell you exactly what you need to roll and tells you the stats of your units like you dont know how to play

"alright so the strength of your weapon is a FOUR and my toughness is a FIVE which means that my toughness is higher than your strength so you will need a FIVE to wound me so go ahead and roll it"

>>54194624
Yeah

>>54194642
>Mark was cool as well. Did he go to work at TTS with Moses?

Yep, he helps him run TTS now.

>During the period when I was starting out there were only the on-call guys, and the gaming scene was pretty dead.

Yeah this was probably because everyone moved to TTS with Moe man, try going up there sometime, almost always packed on Saturday/Friday.

>>54194649
not so much AV 14. but the big gun heavy "tanks" yeah. tyrannofexs get it to for nids.

>>54194676
Imperial Guard players, Ork players who are really into the role play, waac faggots who think they aren't waac faggots.

>>54193612

That actually looks pretty fucking brutal.

>>54194372
While we're on the subject of shitty members of the community, can anyone else on the DFW 40k page not fucking stand one of the mods? The guy's such a pompous ass and even tried defending a Supertuna and riptides in an 1850. Fucking hell he makes my blood boil with how annoying and power-trippy he is.

>>54194676
Math hammer fags.

>Okay so my unit of space marines has a 75% chance of murdering your unit with it's bolters
*rolls*
*1 dead guardsmen*
>But I calculated it!

They don't realize it's a dice game and it's random.

>>54194681
Massive faggot. The current GW manager told him to stop talking about his krieg and get out.

>>54194723
Speaking of, people who bitch about dice rolls in general annoy the fuck out of me.
>needs 4 to hit
>rolls 3
>"Aww come on!" every single time
Just fucking relax, it's a goddamned game.

>>54194729
Holy shit I love Kevin now

>>54194591
Yeah, none of the Eldar Tanks do, unless you count Crystal Targeting Matrix.

Makes Fire Prisms even more garbage.

>>54194479
Depends on how much terrain you play with. Devs are much better if you can put them in a comfy ruin and have a lot more damage output but are much more vulnerable to assault.

>>54194740
Speaking of this, people who are super serious about "cocked" dice when it's a bad roll for them.

>>54194396

I actually liked mine well enough back in...wait, which edition added flyers? Then. The hades autocannon was good enough at plonking in cover somewhere and at the very least forcing a flyer to jink. I'd generally score a hit or two, and it was strong enough to scare people and be a nice aerial disruption unit. Never bothered with the plasma. More mobile than the stupid aegis everyone owned

>>54194490
Cute squid girls will never paint me into being a chivalrous night from space :( :( :(

>>54194591

No.

There are no universal rules for unit types anymore. All rules for all units are on a per-unit, explicitly stated otherwise basis.

What chapter are your Primaris Marines?

I'm going with Ultras because Dirty Bob is just so fucking nasty on the table, both in combat and for the bonuses he gives Ultras.

>>54194700
>waac faggots.
>opponent builds a cheese list that gets re rolls on almost everything, units with 4+ invulns, plenty of psykers to cast buffs and debuffs everywhere, units that have 10+ inch movement
>the moment you get 1 good rule they have a problem with it and asks to see your codex

>>54194676
gunline armies are pretty boring. either i get in their face and win or i get gun down at range

>>54194676
i'm guilty of doing this

>>54194686
Alright, cool. I'll go there more often then. I need to play my first game of 8th with my Templars anyway

>>54194723
8th isn't very random anon, there are almost no important single instances of rolls anymore and a d6 flattens to its average really fast.

Its probably the best edition ever for math hammer!

>>54194819
>gunline armies are pretty boring. either i get in their face and win or i get gun down at range
my main friend i play against to learn my rules when playing against randoms always uses gunlines and it sucks

Say, would the Grey Knights ever send off detachments to serve pseudo-permanently in a danger area, or are they always the last line of 'call ICE' guys?

Like I've been considering starting an army of them for 8th, and I like the rules/lore but what seems cool would be something like a monastery of them set up around a particularly troublesome area (I was thinking on the edge of the Maelstorm or something). Only issue is I can't get a beat whether that's realistic or not, and I don't wanna go all OC-donutstell on an already dangerously sueish chapter.

What crosses the line, /tg/? Also r8 list

>draigo
>paladin ancient
>apothecary
>4 Paladins
>4 Paladins
>10 terminators, squadded or not I dunno
>2 7-man interceptor squads
>stormraven with hurricane bolters
7 drops and a fuckload of bolterfire and CQC attacks, not to mention the ungodly combo of +A and reroll to hit with draigo.

>>54194819
>i'm guilty of doing this
Same here, it was more because I was just trying to confirm it in my head when I was rolling, I don't think I did it when others were rolling but who knows.

>>54194676
I'm guilty of this but that's because I'm effectively the resident noob denoober. 75% of the games I play are with beginners so it's a habit from walking them through the first few games until they grasp it.

Anyone found a legit link to the Dark Imperium novel?

>>54194676
I sort of commentate on the numbers, but I usually say "Looking for 3s and 4s" first number being hits and second being wounds. I'm sure it's annoying for the opponent since I do it for me as well as them. It's just an old habit from playing with a group of people who literally forgot their stats every game. So I gotta work on it for opponents.

I haven't had too much trouble with people so far. Everyone I've played against has been pretty decent at the game and personable. I would say someone who runs away all the time is boring to play against though.

>>54194391
>>54194531
My first 40k game was against this raging faggot who will recognize this post if he sees it. You know who you are m8, still bros but you're a dick for doing this.

>Missiles have line of sight at all times, duh, like a javelin they can just hit you even i cant see you!
>my stats are better than yours because i paid for them to be better
>rule bend this, rule bend that

In one Apoc game
>4,000 points of daemon hosts!
>What why won't you play me?

Still can't believe I consider him somewhat of a friend. Even if we don't play or talk anymore.

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>>54194842
i vaguely recall a grey knight hanging out with an inquisitor and talking about farsight or something. generally if you need the grey knights shit is fucked but marines generally operate like that.

>>54194843
>I was just trying to confirm it in my head when I was rolling
thats fine, i do that too and i think the majority of players do

what i was trying to say i guess was players that feel like theyre teaching you the game as you play it

>>54194842
>Say, would the Grey Knights ever send off detachments to serve pseudo-permanently in a danger area, or are they always the last line of 'call ICE' guys?

They probably wouldn't because they have room full of psykers reading the warp to try and predict where the next Daemon incursion would try to start. As for the list, I got shitstomped with my GK the other day and I'm at a loss. Postponing until our soon to come codex, that I hope isn't a repeat of 7th ed and possibly includes a less 1-sided version of Daemonic Adversaries, because going against armies with already strong formations becoming psykers/daemons was totally balanced for the good ol 7e GK.

>>54194865
That first game story disgusts me on a visceral level

Why the fuck are Heavy Stubbers and Heavy Bolters the same point cost (8 points) in the GSC index, but half the cost in the AM index (4 vs. 8)?

>>54194477
looks great, keep it up and your models will be admired by a lot of people

>>54194842
Grey Knights are occasionally stationed near sealed warprifts that are prone to re-opening, but they'll just garrison the nearest fortification or outpost ... and an army of GK like that would never be on guard duty.

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>>54194900
Because GW neva makes mistakes, right guys?
P L A Y T E S T E D rule set I tell you

>>54194891
Let me guess, you were using a terminator heavy GK list ?

How do you guys paint camo on your tanks? I've been trying to airbrush stripes on some devilfish with a paper stencil and having the worst time making it look good

>>54194959
Drybrush it on. It's easy to get varying patterns and intensity by just changing the angle and pressure. Takes fucking forever if the pattern is dense though.

>>54194943
Actually, no. 1000 pts.
Voldus, Paladin Ancient, 4 Paladins with Falchions, Strike Squad falchions, 6 Interceptors with Falchions and a Psilencer, and a Rifleman Nought. It was my GK with buds Wolves vs Sisters and Quins. Voldus took 3 wounds from an Exorcist and failed the charge, then got Act of Faith'd by a Dominion/Retributor heavy bolter squad, the power armor guys just dropped like flies to shooting and then Celestine melee, the Nought got done in by 3 Exorcists shooting at it in 1 turn, the Paladins were surprisingly fucked in the ass by a Shadowseer. I did manage to pop a Starweaver on turn 1 with the Nought and purge soul 3 wounds off an Exorcist, though...

In 7e, it was a terminator heavy list.

>>54194918

Why the fuck is a Goliath Rockgrinder (T7 10W 4+ save) 124 points with a Clearance Incinerator (12" Heavy D6, S5 AP -1 D1) and a Hellhound (T7 11W 3+ save) with an Inferno Cannon (16" Heavy D6 S6 AP -1 D2) only 101 points?

Is a few 5+ to hit s7 attacks in CC worth the tradeoff on primary weapon power and survivability and an extra 23 points? If it were hitting on 4s I might see it...

>>54194959
Whats not working with the airbrush? Is your stencil plastic? Try making the stripes in painters tape instead of using a stencil. You dont really need a stencil for stripes.

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For the anon who asked for this 2 threads ago

>>54195001
cult ambush!

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>>54194986
Would this work for pic related?

>>54195003
My stencil is handmade with some masking tape covered printer paper. The stripes just arent coming out at all. I've tried taping down the design onto the devilfish and making sure my brush was a bit away so overspray didnt happen, but nothing I've tried has looked good.

>>54195015

>>54194846
here..thanks anon

>>54195027
I wouldnt use printer paper for that, you want a material that isnt going to blow away from the surface. Most stencils for deforming surfaces are going to be a plastic or rubber material so that they will hold firm to the objet and wont deform during spray.

Alternatively, use the paper stencil but hold the airbrush well away from what your spraying and point straight down so that the air doesn't buffet the paper but the particles still fall on it. Thats gonna waste paint and youd have to cover the entire model though.

Id suggest exploring alternative materials for making stencils. Try googling good ways to make them.

>>54194661
>which is 75 or 100 PL.
Hahahahahaha
No it's not. Power level and points are insanely unrelated. 100 PL is anywhere from 400 to 4000 points.

>>54195027
Oh, yeah. It would take fucking forever, but it would work.

>>54194873
Hah. Fuck to you, I still feel inspired.

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>>54194842
Why aren't you going for 5 paladins for 2 special weapons per unit ? That is one of their biggest perks.

Idk If grey knights have monasteries scattered around like other chapters. They basically have the fastest chips in the imperium and know where trouble is gonna show.

>>54193994
>tfw that comic has become a disease of its own

>>54194246
>frisco
You suburbfags deserve everything you get.

>>54195015
That ain't on the Mega?

>>54195062
I might just lay tape all across my model then and cut out my design on top since I think whats ruining it is the air shifting around the stencil.

>>54195015

I grabbed this last thread and gave up some way into Part 2. The writing is just dreadful. My wife was reading over my shoulder and asked if it was a fanfic.

>>54194649

Dark eldar transports as well

>>54193769
Throw in some orange and dedicate them to Slaanesh.

If people's eyes start to hurt that means it's working.

>>54194842
GK have prognosticators psychically find when Daemons will appear and send dudes there just before the Daemons do so they'll be ready to fight them, they don't usually do any sort of guard duty because Daemon fighting is one of the most dangerous/important jobs in the Imperium.

>>54195027

You definitely want to use heavy cardstock or foam for spray stencils and that's assuming you are talking relatively flat surfaces. Rounded tanks are going to be a challenge unless you use something like frisket film. But with something like films you are basically talking a single use stencil.

Then add in addition shading by hand after you've got the primary and secondary colors sprayed.

>>54195115
Thats why they use painters tape for most airbrush line work. Its a very free form talent. You can buy airbrush stencils made out of a kind of gooey rubbery plastic that likes to stick to models and I dont think theyre very expensive, but I dont know if you could get those tiger stripes.

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What do you cucks think of my space wolf successor chapter? I would like help with the Iron Priest and Rune Priest helmets to make them stand out more.

Hey, I got a lore question about the Iron Hands legion: Do they have regular Techmarines and then Iron Fathers are a promotion above that? Or are all Techmarines in that chapter also Iron Fathers?

>>54195181
That autistic lens shading angers me.

>>54195181
Space Wolves are unable to have successor chapters anon.

>>54195181
>space wolf successor chapter
hate to break it to you anon

>>54195153
I made one with cardstock, but it didn't want to contour to the model as well and had the same issues.

>>54195159
I've got some poster tack I might try to hold my stencil down with it.

>>54194246
Was this faggot from high land park or something? He certainly sounds like one of those faggots

>>54195197
>>54195203
No reason that Primaris magic can't fix that.

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>Opinions?

>>54195197
>>54195203
>they don't know about the Wolfspear Primaris Chapter

>>54195197
>>54195203
Sure they can. Lore fags blown the fuck out.

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>>54195214
more compact for those who know the rules better or play necrons regularly

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Was trying to figure out a use for my Achilles and fit it into the rest of my army. The good news: Vehicles and Monstrous Creatures ain't shit. The bad news: infantry heavy armies will make fun of me.

2000 Points, 102 Power - Battalion Detachment

HQ
Lieutenant With Master Crafted Assault Bolter

Techmarine with Bolter, Power Axe, and Servo Arm

Elites
Sternguard with combi meltas and Power Sword

2x Contemptor with Kheres Assault Cannon and Power Fist

Troops
Tac Squad Combi Grav and Grav Gun
Razorback with Twin Asscans and Stormbolter

Tac Squad Stormbolter, Chainsword, Flamer
Razorback with Twin Asscans and Stormbolter
Intercessor Squad

Heavy Support
Predator With all lascannons and HK Missile

Landraider Achilles with Twin Multi Meltas, Quad Launcher, and Storm Bolter

Deredeo With Anvillus Autocannon Array, Aiolos Missile Launcher, and Twin Heavy Bolters

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>>54194246
>Started doing Krieg for 8th because I like their aesthetic
>All these horror stories about neo-nazis, WAACfags, and generally unpleasant people
Give it to me straight, am I gonna look like a faggot for playing them?

>>54195213
>>54195215
Well the Wolfbrothers chapter proved that it kinda works for a little while.

Then the dogshit hits the fan...

>>54195181
Looks nice, anon! But have the eye lenses be a single color, please.

>>54195245
No, everyone thinks they are awesome.

>>54195245
Just don't paint them to look like actual nazis some sorta complete autist, and you shouldn't have any problems. They look cool, don't let fags take that from you.

>>54195192
The idea is to mimic Odin.

>>54195246
Wolfshit hits the fanwolf*

>>54194714
Contemptor flying inside the storm raven says fuck you to whatever ranged anti tank they have.

>>54195263
then you should greenstuff eyepatches on to every single marine.

>>54193423

I mean, to be fair, with the new army building rules G-Dubs has left a lot of room for allies and small subfactions. Keep in mind that there's a rules contingency for unaligned units that anyone can take. I was honestly quite surprised to see that with Kroot units all over Force Org now (and Kroot being an Alliance Keyword), they didn't include an HQ Master Shaper in the Index, and I wouldn't be surprised if Codex: Kroot, Codex: Gue'La, or even (though significantly less probable) Codex: Diggas surfaced at some point- all signs point to this edition building an alliance ecosystem for every faction.

>>54195245
Just don't be a fag, don't run WAAC lists. Get really into the lore, and be fun. Paint your models actually. And don't be afraid to do conversions and shit to spice things up.

Also don't be a nazi fag, but a WW1 fag is fine, don't jerk off about how much you spent on your models. And you can jerk off about how cool they are but don't do it 24/7.

Don't joke about killing black people and panting your Kreig like the KKK

With the burning crosses and everything, that krieg kid did this often

>>54195245
>neo-nazis
No one cares about politics as long as you don't bring up politics
>WAACfags
Then don't play like a nigger. Make your own reputation precede the general reputation.

>>54195245
I'm kinda scared to do a blood pact artillery army for this reason too. I wanna play historical wargames but my buddies won't join me. So I'm gonna try to make them historical nazis.

>>54195279
why the fuck not. Thats a solid idea.

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>>54195263
It would be cooler if you just punched out the eye of your captain and had HIM ape Odin.

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>>54195288
>Actually playing renegades
>This edition
Hope you do alright.

>>54195279
Or just cut a scar down their eye on the helmets and not paint that eye in.

>>54195311
I'd run them as guard cause khorne having a psyker HQ don't make no god damn sense

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>>54195297
He'll need a spear and a few ravens for his armor.

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>Decide to start on my Dark Eldar army
>More than half the units on GWs site are out of stock
This hobby is suffering

>>54194686
Oi, if I'm not reading everything like a total retarded autist (fairly possible all things considered), are you guys talking about Texas Toy Soldier down in Dallas?

I'm new into 40k and popped by their once or twice, I'm looking for somewhere to play and it looked like a good place, plus it's nice to support local stores. The clerk was really friendly, it looked like a big community, and I swear I'm not an autistic creep.

Is it a good place to go?

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>>54195319
Okay good, you will be okay then.

I am so disappointing with the Renegade book now. No way to run my Bloody Handed Reaver army any more with the new renegade book.

>>54195290
I was mostly joking, but I could see doing it for captains and every other important character.

>>54195313
That seems a lot faster. It could be a pretty cool look.

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>>54195313
>>54195290
>>54195279
>>54195263
>>A Certain Magical Cyclops tricks an entire chapters worth of Russ' sons to put out their right eyes by appearing to their chapter master as a raven in a vision.

>>54195329
>Is it a good place to go?
Yes. Great community there, friendly people, and discounts on everything is always nice.

>>54195338
Yea, for now the offerings kind of suck. I hope since this is the edition of Your DudesTM, that they come out with a seperate renegade codex or something. Also I need GW to get off their asses and get some basilisks out so I can have it done for armies on parade.

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>>54195245
What >>54195262 said.

>Hugo Boss collection grey Kriegers: secret stormfag

>WWI era French trench: a cool dude

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>>54195338
It's genuinely frustrating how hard they dropped the ball on those books.
>Krieg can't take Heavy Artillery carriages
>Or Super-Heavy tanks of any kind

>>54195350
Just as planned ....

is this list gonna win anything or will it get rolled over because it has too few bodies? I wanted to run a knight list in 7th because I have 3 but didn't wanna be a cunt, figure they're just big multi wound models now so I feel less bad

Traitor Astartes/Questoris

Patrol Detachment
Kharn
10 x Berserkers with Chainaxes/Icon of Wrath
15 x Traitor Marines, Champion with Combi-Melta

Superheavy Detachment
Knight "Crusader" 553
Knight "Warden" 454
Knight "Gallant" 402

Figure I could use the troops to create a buffer zone so I don't get deep striked and melta'd easily turn one and use Kharn and my boys to charge up between my knights titanic feetsies.

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>>54195361
I honestly don't think FW will give any of us another book honestly, unless GW starts publishing renegade stuff.

>>54194714
Also, my backup plan is that if they don't want to fight Forgeworld, I can replace the techmarine with my chaplain and put my cataphractii terminator squad in the storm raven. Then for a little more anti tank power I have the points left to turn the predator with the autocannon and heavy bolters into a quad lascannon predator.

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>Question:
What is the difference between a person who plays to win, and a WAAC? Is it the optimization? I am trying to understand why games like Warmahordes and X-wing seem so unappealing to me. They randomly remind me of my first competitive MTG at a store, getting destroyed by decks worth $500 that they copied from a tournament list.

>>54195354
Cool. Mind giving a quick rundown on what the meta/people are like? Is it more of a /autistic but friendly/ crowd, or just regular people?

Also is it Waacy or am I good to build a more moderate-powered list?

I've played my first game in 8th ed yesterday (as orks), and I quite enjoyed it.

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>>54195366
>renegades can't even use the transports the books says they can use RAW
It'd be funny if it didn't fuck the armies over.

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>>54195366
You should look at the renegades, all the flavor they had is now gone. And so many typos... It's bad.

>all the autistic WWIniggers coming out
And lo, another standard day on /tg/

>>54195401
How big a fight? Who'd you take on? Who won?

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>>54195342
>>54195313
>>54195297


>>54195324
That is the gayest Odin I have ever seen. FFS kys

Here is the look. Its not bad. As for the eye patch idea, The final step in their initiation is taking out their eye with a combat knife and personally installing an augment replacement (that lets them read the Chapter's unique runes). I don't know think ill give a lot of HQ's eye-patches but augment eyes yes.

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>>54195402
How did I not notice this...

Thanks anon now I am even sadder about my favorite army.

>>54195393

Unfortunately Lost and the Damned didn't sell for shit back in the day so I can't imagine they'll actually do a renegade legion.

GW seems happy with giving people the choice of budget IG (Catachans, Cadians) or expensive (Elysians, Krieg).

I can't imagine GW will ever plastic any of the old IG regiments like Vostroyans, Praetorians, Tallarn, Mordian, Valhallan.

>>54195399
WAAC players will do almost anything in order to win. This includes cheating, bending the rules, having shady dice, actively trying to make the opposing player as uncomfortable as possible so he plays bad etc.

A person who merely wants to win still follows the rules of engagement and common decency.

>>54195399
a normal person will play to win while a WAAC will use every dirty trick, scheme, plot, and ability to win

>>54195431
To be fair only anal people will not allow you to embark renegades in transports, because it's just such a blatant error on FW's part. Their rules usually need a bit of personal modifications to even function.

>>54193190
>THE FLUFF DON'T MATTER
Reminder Lelith Hesperax uses combat drugs now.

>>54195451
>inb4 autistic RAW fags come in to shit on RAI fags

>>54195455
What if Lelith just has such raw sexual appeal that she herself is the drug ?

>>54195399
You can play to win without using a netlist. You're not running the most optimized tournament build, but you're playing seriously and planning your moves out while not taking any "useless" units in your army.

A WAACfag is the kinda guy who would take every single upgrade for his army in a friendly power level game because the rules don't say he can't, or the guy who brings a Riptide wing to a 1000 point game in 7th. Ultimately optimization does play into it, but the mentality is also another part of it. A WAACfag will try to bend rules like calling cocked dice more often, claiming he's in full cover when he isn't, abusing rules wording, etc.

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>>54195468
>raw sexual appeal

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>>54195404
Better than the politic niggers that have been ruining the thread the past week or so

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>>54195482
I'm only half-joking

Even Guilliman has fallen to the knife-ears' appearence.

>>54195508
I'm half convinced they're the same audience. Or at least similar.

>>54195455
fluff, fluff has changed. doing drugs might be how she copes with the hanging out with the ynari

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>>54195475
>>54195442
>>54195437
So your saying I am just a loser for not liking netlists? I never feel like I have enough time/money to keep up with all the new netlists.

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Hello /tg/! I come to you with news, I have ditched the septic tank of pathfinder and I am instead looking to play 40k instead.

I didn't really fancy Ultramarines or Tau, and the Astra millitarum seemed pretty weak.
Also, Chaos looks pretty complex to paint and I'm not that great at painting.

So I decided to make my own Chapter based on something I enjoy the look of.

My Chapter of marines will be based around "Grey Wardens." and infantry heavy tactics.

I have a 2500 point list ready and I am still planning a lot of the paint schemes, but I do not know much about writing lore for space marines. I was hoping to keep it simmilar to the core of the Grey Wardens.
That is. very effective (Or preferred enemy?) against Blights / Nurglite forces.
And some how translate the Joining ritual into the recruitment for the wardens.

Again, I am pretty new to this so I don't know a great deal yet.
Please be patient with me.

>>54195211
Nah, he lives in Frisco; he went to school there.

>>54195540
That's the opposite of what we're saying you tard.

>>54195338

Why don't you just use marauders?

Bloody handed reaver allowed you take grenadiers and buy a pointless 5+ save for troops. Just use marauders instead of grenadiers and troops will be the same apart from you will actually get a save this edition.

>>54195552
Sounds fine to me. Good luck!

Heres my plan for my starting army want some feedback if possible, aiming for ~1000 points. I've played the game before but never had my own army so I'm taking it one role at a time. Used power points when sketching up the plan sake of simplicity.

HQ
Sorcerer in Terminator Armor

Troops
Regular CSM unit x2

Elite
Terminator Squad

Fast Attack
Foetid Blight Drone

Heavy Support
Forgefiend

Whole thing's just over 50 points which should be about where I want it.

>>54195552
Fuckin stop what you're doing and go look up Grey Knights.

Specialist demon hunter space marines. You can't homebrew something closer to what you're looking for than them.

>>54195540
Real, decent people never follow or keep up with netlists. Netlisters are the worst type of WAACfaggots, because they're not even smart enough to figure out themselves what's the best but ride the coattails of those who can.

>>54195552
That sounds incredibly autistic.

>>54195583
Naah, dude. Grey Knights are super wrapped up in 40k lore to the point they're a bad entry point, they're hard to play, and they lose out on 75% of the cool shit Codex Marines get. Let him do Grey Wardens for now, it'll be more fun.

>>54195350
the fucking horn nipples still get me evry tiem

if I was fielding magnus I'd either go bare chest or convert something. or at least get rid of those plumb retarded horns.