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Autistic OC edition

>FAQ (New FAQ), questionable rules lore wise:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/02/warhammer-40000-faq-now-available-july2gw-homepage-post-1/

>Designer's Commentary (FAQ 0.1)
https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Warhammer_40000_Designers_Commentary-ENG.pdf

>Latest news :
https://www.warhammer-community.com

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in pdf(and epub), SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>Old crap
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
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>List Builder
More dead than II and XI combined.

>WIP Math-hammer doc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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>>54181285
First for Magnus did everything wrong
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Tau in 7ed
>Buy 6 Riptide, win

Riptide is nerfed in 8ed
>Buys 6 Commander, Win

thanks for making it cheaper guys
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>>54181306
This is what, the 10th /tg/ meme list that turns out to be complete shit since 8th came out?
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SOLD AS SEEN - PLEASE STUDY PICTURES CAREFULLY
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4th for big boy zerkers and noise marines when
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>>54181326
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>>54181306
>running anything besides kroot hounds and gun drones

It's like you want to lose, have fun getting owned by brimstone horrors.
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>>54181306
Explain
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>>54181326
I like this

sure it isnt painted well but it has character and you know whoever did it had fun
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>>54181326
>>54181339
PRO
PAINTED
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Is going full Nidzilla for a LGS tourny full retarded?


Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [50 PL, 1058pts]

+ HQ +

Old One Eye [7 PL, 140pts]

+ Fast Attack +

Harpy [9 PL, 162pts]: 2x Heavy Venom Cannon, Scything Wings, Stinger Salvo

+ Heavy Support +

Carnifexes [6 PL, 112pts]
. Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe, Toxin Sacs

Carnifexes [18 PL, 402pts]
. Carnifex: Bio-plasma, Bone Mace, Monstrous Scything Talons, Stranglethorn Cannon
. Carnifex: Bio-plasma, Bone Mace, Stranglethorn Cannon, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Bio-plasma, Bone Mace, Stranglethorn Cannon, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Stone Crusher Carnifex Brood [10 PL, 242pts]
. Stone Crusher Carnifex: Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe, Wrecker Claw & Bio-flail
. Stone Crusher Carnifex: Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe, Wrecker Claw & Bio-flail
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>>54181339
This would sort of be ok if the paint wasn't so cancerously thick
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Im 25 today and the closest ive gotten to a woman is my Celestine model


What model should I buy myself for my birthday
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>>54181341
pic of someone owning even 30 brimstone horrors ?
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So other than Berzerkers, what do i need to also have in a Khone army?

DP or Lord or Kharn?
Fast attack? Heavy support?
there's so many options...
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>>54181368
Land Raider
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>>54181381
Kharn is the most fun to play but he dies really easily. I mean really fuckin easily.
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>>54181349

Totally awesome. Weak on synapse. To bad Maleceptors are expensive
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>>54181381
If you are planning on a melee army (why wouldn't you be with Khorne) then Heldrake is a great choice since it's an almost guaranteed first turn charge against whatever your enemy doesn't want you to charge. Then while they are busy falling back and shooting at it desperately with all their anti-tank stuff you roll in with the rhinos full of berserkers or whatever.

Wings DP is amazingly fun to use to melee enemy flyers. With double talons he's got 7 attacks that hit on 2s and reroll 1s.
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>>54181349
Find a place for some Warriors to give synapse.
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>>54181387
You can't use him like a one man army, you have to use him to make sure units you want dead stay dead after you get the zerkers in on it. Think of him like a force multiplier and don't throw him away trying to one man fight a bunch of enemy melee units or something.
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>>54181368
Jesus man, go buy a hooker with that money at least.
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Thinking of converting a Land Raider to use Stormlord rules, but may try something else. Wonder how hard it would be to remove the rivits on a Baneblade to smooth it out to better fit with the aesthetic of my scions.
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>>54181408
I'm saying that because someone charged my units with his Kharn and I wiped the floor with him in the first round of combat.
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>>54181387
so what makes a better beatstick?
>>54181399
what about my fast attack? Bikes or spawns?
For Heavy Supp, i was thinking Defilers, but i think i need something also that's more shooty.
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>>54181399

Skarbrand is kinda hilarious against flyers, forcing them into hover mode (if they can) or destroying them altogether (if they cannot hover)
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>>54181425
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>>54181430
Bit of a dumbass move on his part. Characters are good, but super squishy when fighting a unit by themselves unless it's a pure shooty unit.
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>>54181300
Stay mad cuckstodes.
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>>54181442
Havocs are amazing heavy support, missile launchers are great. As far as fast attack have you considered warp talons? You could use them to pincer units that are trying to run away from your zerkers. Spawn die really easy to everything even though they are pretty good if they actually get into a fight and bikes are really bad at melee imo but they are really good if you kit them out with plasma guns and combi bolters and use them as a hyper mobile gunline. Just don't try to melee with them they are terrible at it imo.
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How do you politely tell someone to stop being such a biting cunt about you not having every statline for your and his army memorized?
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>>54181501
Like an Ork, head butt him.
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>>54181501
Ask him to wait until you look up every single one of his units every single turn and then be like oh my bad I mean you could just tell me and save us time but if you are going to refuse I guess I'll have to look them up.
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>>54181459
>calling names when you're a punch bag that got their dicks and pecs into dust and your primarch got btfo without grey knights ritual
>mfw so heretical they can't have any gains anymore
I pity the likes of you
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what kind of sentinel should i make: armored or scout? Additionally, what should i arm it with?
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>>54181339
>>54181348
>>54181326
>>54181357
"Professional" mostly just means you get paid for it. It doesn't necessarily imply anything about the quality of the work.
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>>54181525
Scout
Lascanons
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>>54181517
Remember that aura of invulnerability that your presence projected? Sure would be shame if something were to happened to it...
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>>54181545
lol why bother posting that bro we're obviously just fucking around
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How many exocrine make it to the efficiency of a barbed heirodule?

How many barbed heirodule make it to the efficiency of a biotitan?
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>>54181563
merely pretending etc etc
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>>54181525
Armored, autocannon
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>>54181584
none. Its different weapon strengh entierly.
Bio titan being Macro weapon + rule mean the efficiency against other titan is far superior to anything else in the codex
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What would you do to make pic related look more like a Chaos Lord beyond just greenstuffing a cape onto their back?

Warband is going to be Night Lords themed if that helps.
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>>54181645
That makes sense. Is there atleast correlation with exocrine and barbed heirodule?
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>>54181525
Scout, Lascannon/HunterKiller
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>>54181653
chains, skulls, chainglaive, legion icon perhaps?
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>>54181545
In English it is. In numerous other languages it means "level of mastery at which person can maintain passable quality of work in non-standard and/or stressful environment"
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>>54181653
Night Lords head & pauldrons, spikes with skulls on the back, flayed skin on the front
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>>54181653
Skulls, motherfucker.
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>>54181545
I'd argue that "professional" does imply a certain baseline level of quality. To be a professional at something that thing has to be your main source of income.
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Anyone know where I can get some land raider bits? I bought one about a month back and finally had the time to build it only to realize I bought the wrong one as it lacks the lascannons/heavy bolters
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Any news on the anon trying to resurrect the online army builder?
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>>54181718
join a facebook warhammer buy/sell in your local area
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>>54181687
still doesnt implies quality
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>>54181670
>>54181674
>>54181676
Thanks for the ideas. I like the idea of just bunch of skulls and shit dangling off the bike, and flayed flesh on the front would look awesome.
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>>54181674

The extreme bat wing helms look silly. They need an update
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>>54181655
nit him but Barbed hierodule is Op because you can rekt even knights in close combat. it has virtually no weakness
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>>54181744
I was thinking more along the lines of these.
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>>54181674
This one.
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>>54181731
If someone gives me the files i am pretty sure i can wrangle it to work.
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>>54181758
Barbed heirodule being the shooty version correct?
I've been hearing great things about Hive Commander slingshotted vanilla heirodule
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has the Vendetta been moved to the forge world astra militarum book?
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>>54181777
yes. either you turn 1 charge with swarmlord and the scythed, or yoi leave the barbed alone and it pretty will only die to fusion squad
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>>54181805
yup
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>>54181378
>all that grey
HAH
Someone actually bought into the brimstone meme.
......wait.
That means somewhere, there's some faggot who bought himself 2000 points of conscripts for 8th edition.
Good lord, what have we done, /tg/.
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>>54181777
thank me later
http://www.mirandairene.com/products/tyranids/tyranid-scythed-hierodule-1450.html
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>>54181769

Much much better
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>>54181823
literraly everything is painted here faglord
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>>54181823

>He didn't buy his conscripts before price exploded
Lmao at ur life
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>>54181833
>conshits
It's been a long time since I've heard anyone bother posting that meme
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>>54181769
Night Lord fag here. Those Forge World heads literally convinced me to make a fluffy army. That and the Night Raptor dudes.
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>>54181378
those are razorwing flocks dumbass
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How do you fix mistakes on paint which is originally primer+shade?
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>>54181848
Slam head against wall.
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>>54181848
you don't
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>>54181846
Reading comprehension bro.
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>>54181854
Thank you for your intelligent contribution
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So, how are Salamanders? Torn between running a Scout in my 1000 point and swapping to Command when I hit 2000 to boost a LoW.
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>>54181744
You take that back!
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Maybe I can be your manticore for the evening.
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>>54181862
*Slams head against wall*
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>>54181805
read
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>>54181378
>all those gun drones
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>>54181818
Good to know, thanks
>>54181826
>implying I would buy a heirodule instead of converting my own
>implying I would buy my nids from MI instead of Z
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>>54181846
>Faggot think people buy lots of brimstone then backpedal when he is eternally BTFO "I was just pretending to be retarded lmaoxddddd le master b8haha trollface*
>Get asked to prove people even buy brimstones with a pic a fully painted flocks and drones
>goes full retard
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>>54181388
>>54181407
i wasnt overly concernes about synapse since units of 1 care not for moral.

will instinctive behavior be to restrictive? i figured i was going to be attacking whats closest often anyway.
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Hey guys. Im new to this whole 40k thing and Ive decided to start playing the Imperial Guard. Can I use whatever colour scheme I want or will some autismos start schreeching at me? Also do I have to keep their gear uniform or can I build them to look like a bunch of space pirates?
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>>54181915
>Z
enjoy basically resculpting it yourself
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>>54181919
It leaves you open to kiting and being manuevered like a rodeo.
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what armies have the highest points per $/€ spent?
It is obvious that the grey knights are the first choice but what are other cheap armies?
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>>54181831
this doesnt look fun to paint or play

why do people do this shit
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>>54181920
if paint scheme trigger people, its actually a good filter so you dont play against autist.

Please remember to buy manticores.
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>>54181935
>he actually think waacfag paint themselves
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>>54181926
AdMech are pretty good if you go tanks and robots. One flavour of dark elves is very cheap as well because of a boxed set.
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>>54181926
A superheavy detachment.
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>>54181943
Is that £5 per grot painted?
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>>54181953
YEP
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>>54181953
Thats like one for every finger. Woah dude
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>>54181925
fair enough. i suppose i could swap the harpy for a maleceptor, keep him in the centre of a loose cluster of fexs
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>>54181943
>VAT tax
>Value-Added Tax tax
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>>54181886
>(((soviet))) shit
no
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>>54181922
I can sculpt whole models, it's not a problem

Looking at reviews on r/yoyhammer Z nids are the best they provide in their range
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Anyone think the Stormblade might be good? Its a tossup between that and a Shadowsword.
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Ayyyyyy...El señor Horus es estúpida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_hdFJaOw7U
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>>54181966
Or a couple primes. Harder to target, can run a few.
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>>54181979
Do the one with that big gun and the carrige its always a romp and a hoot.
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>>54181943
That seems excessive
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>>54181986
Thats... really an open category.
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>>54181935
power players. Recently I saw someone getting 70 mandrakes for their dark eldar army.
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>>54181996
The like 40 odd one and the broom broom sweep the room gun
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>>54181987
You can get cheaper, but it is a luxury service on top of a luxury good.
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>>54182010
I still can't process Mandrakes being a thing after 20 years of worst unit in the game status.
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>>54181987
I really want to have my limited edition models professionally painted but the prices are insane.
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>>54182012
I don't have the infantry to put in that. Its fun but I need big blasters.
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>>54181943
I'm painting a friend's 2k point necron army for free, including 40 warriors, 30 immortals/deathmarks and a bunch of other stuff.

Not even plain silver either, it's a multicolored scheme. I could make alot of money if I charged people..
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>>54182018
I'm happy. They were always my favorite.
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>>54181943
Kek. I remember when the guy came here to defend his shitty paint jobs.
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>>54182018
During that 20 years I got a converted/collected close to 50 for a meme and proceeded to sell them just before the new edition thinking, well enough of that trash army.
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>>54182026
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

FUCKING KEK
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>>54181845
I got some of those heads
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>>54182021
I'm not OP but designing a force out of that baneblade and a platoon is fun. For a big hitter I'd go with the sword (volcano cannon one)
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>>54181845
I need more NL heads I only got the 5
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>>54181687
stop making up definitions for words. profession has nothing to do with quality. im a lineman, and you would be scared to see how many of them are shit at there job, and their shit has to be redone
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>>54181982
I actually love this scheme.
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>>54182041
Dat base
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>>54181985
good idea. need to find 10 PL though.


i could maybe drop the harpy and "downgrade" the screamer killer to another wrecker fex. see if the flgs will let me counts quad crashing claws as a pair of wrecking claws.
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>>54182026
i would still pay that price bacause i dont like to paint.
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>>54182026
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>>54182064
It's not the price itself that's the problem.
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>>54182023
I unironically paid 500€ for having a similar force painted to tabletop standard.
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>>54182055
Also because I love night lords here is my warlord "mr. Tickles"
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>>54182071
When 500 whatevers are being thrown around, it aint irony at any means.
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>>54181339
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>>54182071
>>54182078
When you consider the time investment involved it's not even that bad.
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>>54182026
>that didn't even take him a day cause lol airbrush
sheesh, for that price he could have atleast painted the pilot
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Where's my army bitch?

Where are my Gay Angels?
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>>54182075
How did you attached him to a wall? Magnets?
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>>54182085
>maybe if I strap myself to this machine I'll look less like a man
NOPE
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>>54182085
FYI they have 45 new ones coming in to North America in late July. Watch the store page.
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>>54182061
I never know what to do for bases because I hate having grass when I'm playing an urban map and vice versa I almost like having the black ones because it's clear and defined but any tips would be appreciated
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>>54182041
for some reason that face just looks incredebly cute the way you painted it
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>>54182088
yeah

>>54182023
have you pics and where are you (europe) unironically asking.
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>>54182088
Did I every tell the story of how I spent six months painting 40 grots and didn't even like them when they were done?
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>>54182102
>people are posting unironic shitty paintjobs
>post the pretty awesome guillyman painted like old marines
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>>54182098
I'm phone posting I have no idea why the picture posted that way
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>>54182103
Make a base that has lots of terrain on it and is painted to a very specific area so that it isn't the model that looks wrong but the board.
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>>54182071
Fucks sake man I could make a killing and I actually put effort in my painting

You seriously couldn't buy a can of colored Army painter primer, wash it and paint the helmets and details another color? Really?
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>>54182026
would still buy that desu.
Anything to skip having to touch a brush
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>>54182104
Nooooo were scary :(
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>>54182103
gw's website has a nice pdf on how to make a nice looking base using just their texture paints , a wash and a drybrush
been using astrogranite+drakenhof+longbeard grey for all my dudes and it looks pretty nice
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>>54182112
basically mean that golden demon in the 80's is barely tabletop today
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>>54182026
>Systen: Eldars
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>>54182108
6 months what? I did 20 poxwalkers in 2 days and they were my first painted unit.
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okay so i need feedback bad im a few months into 40k and i kind of make things my own, which is what i like

i really need powerful men though and that has been a limiting factor by making my own space marine army and not using a pre existing one like ultramarines yeah? but i want a primarch i dont want the big ultramarine dude that came out but i want his rules. i need to justify everything i do with some sort of story

so here is what i need feedback on

my marine chapter has been around since just before the horus heresy, a small empire on the outskirts of the imperium as their origin. they have been helping the imperium for the last 3000 years as a wandering company of marines after their homeworld is destroyed by chaos sorcerers. they are fleet based and essentially roam the empire hunting heretics. they are known as the lost and have some of the empires most powerful psychers known to man as such they work along side the gray knights regularly hunting down demons

the problem is space marine captains are weak and not as good. a freind at the store talked about lost primarchs so i decided that maybe every army should have one so we dont have to use blue marines :D lol but anyways here is my back story for the primarch of the lost

the emperor finds his lost son, he was alone on a world lost to mankind so he is known as the lost. his marine chapter is founded by him after he sees the others doing good for the emperor. they are named the lost and proceed to help in the northern reaches of the galaxy. he often got into fights with his brothers especially gully, about how to do things. during one major battle he got into a fight with one of the chaos gods whichever is weakest i know theyre strong lol. when they came out to help a demon army he was pulled into warp in mid combat, nearly beating the thing to death with his bear hands. now 3000 years later, he is back to lead his children again.

this picture is my marines, please like and let me know about my story?
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>>54182106
I live on the northeast side of the US, I've never photographed my work and I don't have anything I've painted to do so at the moment. I'm in the middle of reposing all of his necron warriors so they're walking instead of squatting
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>>54182118
yeah no. I just want to play, not build or paint
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>>54182148
If all you want is a game, there's always chess, anon.
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>>54182143
>I'm in the middle of reposing all of his necron warriors so they're walking instead of squatting
this is impressive
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>>54182141
Highly underappreciated pasta
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>>54182134
Yeah and I spent minimum of four hours a week too. When they were done I kept them for a few weeks then stripped them.
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>>54182150
No faggot, i want to play 40k and pay excessive amount if money so that some faggot can glue and remove moldline.
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>>54182141
Hey man it's your hobby so do what you want but that fluff has so many issues I'm not going to bother unless you want me to go into more depth.
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>>54181881
best

My old boss has a 2e night lords army, and he hates it when I talk up the bat wings. I'm tempted to make a full ham nightlords kill team to go up against his serious business one for shadow wars.
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>>54182150
chess is a shitty game with no depth.
its about memorizing the most move combinaitions. Everything has been found and documented already.
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>>54182172
>Plays chaos marines in shadow war un-ironically.
Oh I remember too when I was young and brave.
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>>54182188
>Only plays to win
Hi cancer
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>>54181736
Live in a smaller city in leafland, not likely to get any bites but I guess I'll see if I can exchange it back at the shop as the owner seems like a cool dude
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>>54182188
>not having the models for several teams just because you can
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>>54182201
Good sir I'll have you know that I did not play to win I played not to end the game tabled and this was a feat unachieved in a total of 7 games proffered to me,
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>>54182207
Ebay. It'll cost you a bit of a premium because leafbux are ass, but at the end of it you can just magnetize the sponsons and swap between crusader/godhammer as you please.
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>>54182213
I tip you my fedora good fellow.
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>>54181831
I wonder if that's the same guy who bought $2000 worth of Repentia the other day?
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>>54182213

>tabled

>Not realizing SW :A is a game with little skill involve and it all rely on a few good dice roll.

Also, your table probably didn't have enough terrain.
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>>54182153
For free? Yeah. It's for a good friend though and it's good PR in case I actually want to make money I guess
>>54182148
>>54182163
Understandable but do you not paint out of lack of motivation, impatience or lack of skill?
If something could save me money, IE fixing or replacing a simple part in a car I would do so. I'm rather poor though so..
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>>54182272
There's nothing in my car that requires nearly as delicate a touch and patience as a plastice army man.

t. someone else who dislikes painting.
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So, using Rhinos and other SM pattern stuff as the basis for vehicles in my Scion list, and been planning out my LoW options. I think I figured it out. I'll get some long lascannon bits from 3rd Party Store I know, and use an Icarus Storm Cannon Array to mount three big lascannons to it and have that be the Volcano Cannon, then mount it either in the hull mount or the back of the Land Raider. Should give a nice look and keep the aesthetic.
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>>54182272
I mean, if you want to save money and only want the game just get fucking TTS or Vassal and have a go. You now have infinite amounts of all units, and they look exactly as good as your opponent's.
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>>54182335
TTS is a fucking pile of shit but Vassal is pretty good
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>>54182339
Hasn't it not even been updated in ages?
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>>54182349
Doesn't matter, it works fine for 8th still.
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Pretty new to the game. Do you guys seal your minis after painting them? Does the paint really need protection, or is it a meme to get me to buy another spray can of paint?
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>>54182358
Definitely seal airbrush work or it will rub the fuck off and you should probably seal most other paints too
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>>54182358
On plastic ones it's not a huge deal, on metal oh god yes.
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Any chance one of you based mo fo's with the forge world book for Imperium can tell me the point cost for a vendetta with its 3 dual lascannons? Or point me to a scan. Ta
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>>54182367
man talk about roverwatch that bitch is fucking ugly
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>>54182358
They'll be seeing a lot of handling so it's a good idea if nothing else.
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>>54182363
What would you recommend to seal with, is the GW purity seal a good choice?
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So deathstrike suck right?
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>>54182367
How about you read the fucking OP.
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>>54182367
230.
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>>54182339
Are you joking? I hope you are joking.
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>>54182378
Yes, it would be on the expensive end for what it does if it went off on turn 1.
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>>54182377
I know that the guy who does next level painting swears by this one specific clear coat but I don't remember what it is.
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>>54182367
>plebbitwatch fag can't read the OP
And in other news the sky is blue.
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>>54182357
I'm talking about the 40k module. Last I checked it was updated in 2015 but if you want to use anything released since then you're sol.
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>>54182328
>delicate touch
It's LITERALLY just a colored primer, watered black wash and black/silver intricacies. You'd rather spend $568 for someone else to depreciate the value of your miniatures with a shitty airbrush job leaving you without the means to paint another army when it's done?
There's a famous saying, give a man a fish you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime
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>>54182402
Use TTS like any civilised person.
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>>54182426
I just play the physical tabletop every Saturday.
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>>54182426
>hey guys let's simulate a board game with a wacky program that works really poorly that'll be part of the fun
Wow why didn't I think of that
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>>54182432
I mean if you have to choose the software. If you can play IRL then surely do that.
>>54182435
Gandpa, click with left mouse button, not right.
It works perfectly if you are not a dumbass.
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>>54182401
>>54182384

You're right. My fault for being a massive nigger. Looked in the folders but didn't notice the FW folder.

>>54182385

Thanks homeslice
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>>54182449
>I sure love this goofy 3d program! I can even roll the dice by shaking my mouse!

Fuck, you are so smart I feel like a child just being in your presence.
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>>54181977
I've gotten a Lictor, a Flyrant, the Cryptus Broodlord, a Zoanthrope, and two Fexes from Z. They are beautiful, absolutely no problem.
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QQ: How do you paint a DA captain in gravis armour. Green or bone white for deathwing.
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>>54182479
I'd go black for deathwing, bone would be out of place.
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>>54182470
As you should.
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>>54182435

Most of the problems is with the content creators not giving the models (both units and terrain) a proper collision, so it reverts to the standard "box", which makes moving models around a massive pain in the ass.
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>>54181285
Alright lads, I have here the latest WAAC tactic, fresh off the pro-press, that’s right bois:
10 astropaths, 2 primaris psykers in 2 vanguard detachments, all piled into a chimera
Bam! 250 points for this bad boy bomb, for 12 smites, and 2 gazes ontop of that, which, given the % 87 cast rates, that’s 10D3 mortal wounds at whatever you want per turn
>Landraider?
DEAD
>10 man TH/SS unit
BOOM GONE IN ONE TURN
>chaos knight
BAM! CRIPPLED
>Xeno flyer of some kind
DON’T EVEN MAKE ME LAUGH
BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE
Each model is a individual unit AND a character, which means units have to kill each one at a time, because they can only ever target the closest one
THAT MEAN YOU NEED 12 UNITS WORTH OF SHOOTING TO KILL THIS SHIT
AND AS A CHERRY ON TOP, YOU GET 2 COMMAND POINTS
NON IMPERIAL BTFO
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>>54182477
Great to know, I ordered a FW trygon from them. Wish I got a heirodule or malanthrope too
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Why the fuck is everything Primaris/DG monopose/easy-build faggotry?

When are the proper kits coming
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>>54182435
Possibly the same reason you didn't pick up a game that comes with pre-painted pieces or only uses a handful of them. Instead you chose the one where making tiny plastic men is half the hobby.
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>>54182479
Gravis isn't a Terminator equivalent and there would be no reason for a Primaris marine to be in the inner circle. Paint him green.
>>54182490
Only Ravenwing are black ya dumb cunt.
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>>54182502
Astropaths only smite on one die.
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>>54182502
WITNESS YOUR DOOM
I actually did the idea of a full on Telepathica army.
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>>54182502
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>>54182502
Thats a lot to take in at once... could um... wow so like is this all... legit for shit???
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>>54182514
>would be no reason for a Primaris marine to be in the inner circle
What if a Deathwing marine got Primaris upgrades?
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>>54182516
Naa, thats the weirdvains or how ever you spell it. Astropaths are the real deal
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>>54182532
Read the telepathic assault rule.
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>>54182523
Nah he'd be black for deathwing.
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>>54182511
lol you are so fucking mad that nobody in their right mind likes trashcan shit simulator
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>>54182520
Thing is, i'm not even joking. in a 2k game, it basically means you cna auto deleat big shit, and keep your big shit killing the enamy
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>>54182527
How it does not fall off? Is it glued to the top of that jar?
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>>54182541
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>>54182527
Ayy
He looks fine, nice crisp colours, simple s schem so you can make them in bulk, just needs a bit of shading and a face.
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>>54182523
He would still be wearing Terminator armor and not Primaris armor. Also we haven't even seen any instances of upgraded marines yet.
>>54182541
Is this some sort of shit bait? Deathwing haven't been black since pre-Heresy.
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First time painting a fire warrior, still a WIP
The motherfuckers are not only smaller than SM, but I thought it would be cool to glue him first, and it was fuck tons of more difficult to paint him.
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>>54182502
Your 10 astropaths only have a 33% smite cast rate. From the 10 and 2 primaris, you only get about 5 smites off.
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>>54182539
shiiiiiiit, i was really hyped there for a sec
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>>54182544

See:
>>54182516
>>54182539
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>>54182502
Good luck with those 5+ rolls to smite buddy.
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>>54182523
Yeah I'm sure the open and trusting Dark Angels will stuff their elites with the cum packets Cawl is sending them.
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>>54182552
>Is this some sort of shit bait? Deathwing haven't been black since pre-Heresy.
Yeah nah yeah hed be black
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>>54182502
>individual units
You don't need 12 units of shooting anymore, since any model can target any unit.
That means each of my squads can just split their fire between your dudes until they die, one by one.
Also, Turn 1 multicharges are a thing now.
What are you gonna do when on turn 1, an Exocrine and some Hive guards pop your chimera, only for a trygon and genestealer bomb to pop up next to them, assault them, and wipe 'em out in CC.
Don't misunderstand, sounds like a really cool, and strong idea, but you'll need to compensate for it's very obvious weaknesses with the rest of your army.
Also, why are you able to cast 2 gazes a turn? I thought you only get to cast each power once per turn?
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@54182568
You'll need to try harder if you want that (You) buddy.
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>>54182567
But Cawl works for the guy who is the boss of their spiritual liege.
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>>54182575
>You don't need 12 units of shooting anymore, since any model can target any unit.
they are all charicters, so when you choose targets, they can only choses to target the closest astropath.
Dosent matter though, everyone already pointed out that i cant read, so its 5 or 6 smits if you are lucky,not 10, so its basically shit
:( i was so hyped
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>>54182555
He looks terrified.
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>>54182589
The guy that was broing it up with Cypher?
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>>54182575
>That means each of my squads can just split their fire between your dudes until they die, one by one
You have to declare your shooting targets before you start rolling. You can't kill a model then have the rest of yourmodels target a different unit. Read the fucking rules.
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>>54182575
They're still characters, you could only split between them if they were equidistant. Multicharges would wreck them though, but at 15ppm if you swap the stave for a laspistol, it's barely more than a tactical squad+rhino you've sent an exocrine, hive guard, trygon and genestealers against.
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>>54182575
>Also, why are you able to cast 2 gazes a turn? I thought you only get to cast each power once per turn?
the two gazes come from the primares, who now i actually check, can only cast 1 power anyway
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>>54182602
Yeah he'd be black
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>>54182602
>broing it up
Until he stopped broing it up by double-crossing the fallen faggot. The Dark Angels are good at betrayal so they should have a lot of respect for what Guilliman (the most honest dude in the Imperium) did to Cypher.
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8th ed rule question. In an Eternal War mission, can you put any unit in reserve? Specifically, can you put a Space Marine Stormraven in reserve? Also, if you can, can you have it come in automatically on any turn? Including first turn?
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>>54182625
I don't believe so, unless the mission specifically says you can.
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>>54182613
You can't manifest the same psychic power more than once a turn other than smite, they can't both cast gaze.
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>>54182563
>>54182556
>>54182539
Humm, what you COULD do, is spam gaze of the empror. less good at big shit, but cna thin out hoards like nobodies bussness
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>>54182639
Only in narrative and open play, matched restricts non smite powers to only one attempt per turn.
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>>54182635
Yeah i know, thats what i said
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>>54182639
see
>>54182635
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>>54182591
You get ~3 from the astropaths and ~2 from the primairs, so anaverage of 10 mortal wounds + whatever other 2 powers the primaris guys cast, to something is not bad for ~320 points. Especially as smite can come down hard on characters.
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>>54182639
Good luck doing that in Matched Play faggot.
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>>54182645
>>54182654
Fucking why
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>>54182664
Hmmmmmmmmmm

>I THOUGHT UP SOMETHING FUCKING SUPER BROKEN BROS IT'S GONNA BE CRAZY I'M NOT EVEN JOKING

>FUCKING WHY ISN'T THIS ALLOWED

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>54182634
There's no more units just walking on from reserve without a specific special rule on the unit?
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>>54182502
Not bad idea but not as you describe it.

5d3 mortal wounds a turn is nothing to turn your nose up at.
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>>54182653
Problem is smite autotargets the nearst unit, so you need to do shnaigans to get to them

>>54182675
Are you saying that 40k stops the
>spam X until the game breaks
becuase it usally dosent
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>>54182678
So 5 wounds then? Yeah I'm sure it's going to be really good
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>>54182677
Correct. Null deploy is already strong enough this edition.
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>>54182697
>5d3=5
10 wounds actually, ignoring all saves. Its okay, far from great, but not bad
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>>54182710
Except that d3 always comes up 1. Watch it happen and wonder why you didn't listen.
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Alrighty then guys, what IS the most point effective way to spam smite. I want this to actually work now
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>>54182723
Elves.
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>>54182723
Tzeentch heralds I believe. Unsurprisingly.
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>>54182719
>muh cognitive bias
yeah no, you are a retard
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>>54182719
Until you opponent tries it, rolls perfectly and comes away doing 42 motherfucking mortal wounds?
Yeah, I get that feeling sometimes.

>>54182688
>Problem is smite autotargets the nearst unit
But you do it one at a time so if you just happen to destroy the closest unit you will then be smiting the next closest unit.
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>>54182728
kek you mad because you know it's true
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>>54182688
Oh yeah, I had forgotten that. Well it's still not the worst thing ever but unless you're fighting hammernators all day it's probably better to get 160points of normal anti-infantry and 160 of normal anti-tank/big thing
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>>54182727
>78 ppm
at that point you may as well spam malfect lords, who are the same for our purposes, but gets an extra toughness and are 30 points
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>>54182727
Slaanesh heralds is you're talking about daemons, actually, they both get one spell per turn but slaanesh heralds are 10 points less.

you can get 5 for 330 points. but that sounds like a shitty use of points to me, the chimera astropaths idea sounds better.
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>>54182514
DA Primaris Libbys are Unforgiven.
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>>54182731
Asuuming you are getting 10 mortal wonds per turn, thats no going to cut though many units AND a 4 wound charicter. better off taking wounds off big things
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>>54182725
>37 ppm
pfff, are they twice as good as astropaths?
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>>54182772
DA Libbys are unforgiven. We barely know anything about Primaris libs much less their relationship with DA
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>>54182705
You must have more than half of your shit deployed at the start of the game.
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>>54182787
If you read the points pdf for the new Primaris characters you'll see the Primaris Lib becomes Unforgiven if he is DA.
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>>54182802
I'm aware and that that rule exists shows how strong null deploy is.
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>>54182802
WAIT A MINUTE you saying that some fucking idiot on /tg/ doesn't actually know the rules of the game they are talking about?
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>>54182808
Link?
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>>54182813
It isn't a null deploy if you've deployed half your shit.
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>>54182813
So you ment in theory. Ok then.
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>>54182827
If half my shit is a 100 points worth of chaff units it is.
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>>54182822
Look it up yourself on the community site, nigger. I aint in a spoonfeeding mood
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>>54182837
like, say 10 astropaths
ahh
ahhhhhhhhh
see where i am going with this
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>>54182786
Warlocks smite on two dice. They also live a lot longer and come as characters, units, bike variants of both, and support each other as well as other infantry.
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>>54182841
I wasn't even aware they put it on the community site you dip.

But it's interesting that Primaris Librarians are DW but Primaris Captains aren't.
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>>54181285
good god...
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>hydra dominatus
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>>54182886
the joke is that none of those words are in the crossword itself
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>>54182886
5th line from the bottom
cheeky
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>>54182901
Chimera is under Hydra Dominatus
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>>54182850
By that logic, you may as well spam mealfic lords: 7 points cheaper, still smite on 2d6, extra T, same invun, and can go super syan if he gets PoTW
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>>54182901
But they are, anon. I just spent a little time and easily found lasgun, chimera, and sacrifice.
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>>54182775
You're not doing it to cause a ton of wounds but to cause lots of wounds that cant be saved and ignore toughness.

So anything expensive with high toughness and/or good saves.
SS termies.
Land raiders.
Soul grinders.
Knights, Stompas.
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>>54182901
Maybe this abhuman designed word search will be better for you then, anon?
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>>54182815
I've played two matches so far, and an opponent who has played 4 matches put a Stormraven and two Stormtalons in reserve. Came in first turn and tore apart my Devastator Squads.
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>>54182901
Top, letter B, 2nd column along, read down

retard
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>>54182857
All librarians are inducted in the Deathwing almost immediately (ya know, they'd figure it out anyways because of mind reading). Primaris Captains are still inexperienced and very new to the chapter compared to normal captains/veterans so the Inner Circle clearly doesn't trust them yet
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>>54182924
They don't have general elflectric bullshit swords though, and demons may suffer in a gay knight rich environment.
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>>54182951
Stomravens/talons have reverse abilities?
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>>54182973
Arent GK shit vs psyker deamons though? D3 wounds is a lot more scary when you aermy only has 30 of them to begin with
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>>54182951
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>>54182943
I mean, you are right. Termintor are espcially vunrble due to low(ish) wound count
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>>54182981
GK are full of deny attempts.
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>>54183006
No, they apparently don't. That's why I was asking.
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Could someone clarify Nork Dedogg for me? My English is not perfect but it does not mention trading attacks for his headbutts anymore. Does that mean you can use one Attack as the Headbutt and the rest normally in one fight now?
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>>54181926
Eldar Wraith Host is elite, pricey and viable
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>>54183049
I appreciate that you might be new to baiting but sir I must inform you that it'd be black.
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>>54181926

SM dread army (captain and primaris LT being the only non-dreds)
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>>54183049
One of your four attacks can be a headbutt. In 8th edition you have to choose which weapon you want to use for each of your attacks, so for Nork it'd be 3 normal attacks and a headbutt.
The rules for the weapon specifically say "Nork can only make a single thunderous headbutt attack each time he fights."
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R8 my list
HQ
>Chaplain,
Troops
>Scout squad*3
Elite
>Tartaros terminator squad (only 4 terminators due to the transport size of the land raider)
Heavy support
>Devastator squad : 1 lascannon, 3 heavy bolters, armorium cherub
>Predator : lascannon sponsors
>Land raider
Flyers
>Stormtalon
1250pts
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>>54183068
So he actually got a buff then! That's great!
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>>54183076
Im unfamiliar with how he was in 7th so...sure?
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>>54183069

Terrible / 10
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>>54183094
I am now aware how undercosted Guard is. For that same point level I could drown that board in indirect ordinance.
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>>54183076
Well the headbutt lost concussive and it's not the bane of MEQs anymore, but you get to attack normally 3 times so it's a fair trade I'd say
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>>54183122
I just read up on it and it sounds amazing that you used to be able to One Shot captains or penetrate Predators with his face.
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>>54183116
Maxing basilisks just about kills that landraider.
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>>54183132
If the captain wasn't rocking artificer maybe.
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>>54183136
Nobody said against that list you autist. Besides, after the Raider goes he barely has an army. : ^ )
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>>54181982
Fuck you i am going to make at least 1 marine like that.
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Daily reminder that Death Korps Death Riders attack twice and then their mounts attack another two times.
Combine with Fix Bayonets! for massive lulz
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>>54183168
LET US LIVE ON YOUR PLANET ILLEGALLY RACIST XENOS
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>>54183173
>horses proceed to afix their hoof bayonets
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Any input on my fluffy Fallen list? Local group has armor aplenty and is fond of the 1k mark, I based my unit selection so I can play as either faction for the upcoming campaign and both add up to exactly 1k.

Spearhead Detachment
HQ: 1 Captain/Lord with jetpack, plasma pistol, power-sword

FA: 5 Assault/Raptor, Sarge with plasma pistol, 2 plasma pistols

FA:5 Ravenwing/Chaos-Bikers, Sarge with power-sword

HS: 5 Devastators/Havocs, Sarge with storm-bolter/combi-bolter, 2 heavy-bolters, 2 las-cannons

HS: 5 Devastators/Havocs, Sarge with storm-bolter/combi-bolter, 2 heavy-bolters, 2 las-cannons

HS: Land Raider
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Did GW remove all the SW:A kill team boxes? Can't find any of them anymore.
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>>54181982
Ay dios Emperor, dis mutangt has de toch of kheyos, si si very baid. Purge de mutangt, keel de zenoth, buarn de hereteek.
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>>54182901
completed
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>>54183202
This is bait right?
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>>54183094
I only play against daemons, full suit tau and necrons, does that change anything ? Also what is wrong with the list and how should I improve it ?
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>>54183203
What do you mean killteam boxes?
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>>54183219
>Hydra Dominatus
Congrats, Guardsmen! You identified an extra phrase. Please report to your local Commissar!
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>>54183219
Now do the Ogryn one
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>>54183239
These, they had them for almost every faction.
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Adolfus Hitlerius:
Company Commander stats.
<Regiment>=Steel Legion
Tactical incompetence=-1CP if within army
Inspiring speaches=+2 Ld to <regiment> units within 12"
Wargear: laspistol, chainsword, acid gas bomb

Points me.
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>>54183249
init quz
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>>54183303
>"quz" is HYPE in old latin
>"hydradominatus" in the bigger crossword
Alpha Legion update fucking confirmed.
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>>54183284
oh shit, you're right and they actually had some savings to them too. Damn, guess we got shekeled
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>>54183335
kinda, I checked them against the usal 20% off re-sellers and discount was the same
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>>54183221
How is it bait? Because I didnt specifically use cypher and the unit fallen? They are more than that lorewise and if I did use the unit they would be stuck walking as they lack a <legion> or <chapter> keyword. If they get infiltrate back then they'd be worth it but not as is
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>>54183330
PLEASE GOD YESSS
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>mfw Nork OBLITERATES his Broodlord using his face as a weapon.
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>>54183372
>they lack a <legion>
Their legion is FALLEN.
Also all you did was take a generic DA list and slap the name Fallen on it. 3/10 were you even trying?
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>>54181285
>my orks vs a friend's khorne berzerkers
>we spend half the game just staring each other down while flinging our crappy shooting at each other
>we're both too afraid to advance because we each know if the other gets the charge, it's over

make sure you bring something that can initiate, this wouldn't have been such an issue if I had a weirdboy with da jump, or if he had some termies or raptors or something
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So are GW ever going to reveal exactly why Cypher wanted to see the Emperor?

I'm sick of all the vague shit they have going on with everything. This is how they maintained the status quo, not by squeezing every big event into 997-999M41 as everyone mistakenly believed.
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>>54183406
Maybe he just likes the Fallen aesthetic. I'm currently working on a squad just because.
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>>54183438
>he just likes the Fallen aesthetic which is why he's building a DA army
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>>54183413
That's what transports are for bro
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>>54183413
MORE EARTHSHAKERS BEHIND MY CONSCRIPTS? DONT MIND IF I DO~
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>>54183431
>implying they actually had motive for himand and not just pretending to be edgy
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>>54183431
eeeeeh I don't know if I want to know honestly, what is Cypher without the mystery
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What 40k book/book series is worth reading? Preferably available as audiobook. Also, any recommendations for quick audio drama listens? I enjoyed Mortarion's heart a lot
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>>54183413
>my edgy elves vs store owner's glitter elves
>turn one half of our armies die to shooting
>turn two the grand melee commences
>start of turn 3 my archon is looking at his statweaver in confusion
>there is nothing else on the field but very small pieces of elves, most of which are on fire
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>>54183406
Are you sure their faction is actually a legion? Why would they be restricted to walking when fielded as imperium?
And you realize they were generic DA at some point right? Their whole gimmick is how easily they can be confused for DA, and besides I dont think that being cast aside suddenly evaporates all your gear and knowledge of using simple tech you'd had for thousands of years
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>>54182841
Interesting. These are the first Primaris that are clearly in Deathwatch, am I right?
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>>54183431
Cypher is supposed to be 'vague shit'.

>>54183478
Gaunt's Ghosts for grimdark guard action
Eisenhorn for Inquisition/ world building
Ciaphas Cain for fun
Horus heresy if you want writing style PTSD

Nightlords Omnibus if you want something good.
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>>54183438
>>54183443
If you like the fallen aesthetic might as well build a DA army with the legion paint scheme.

I'm doing the same myself
got some FW DA bitz on the way, the vehicles look badass too
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>>54183495
>Cypher is supposed to be 'vague shit'.
What's the fucking point of being vague for its own sake?

It's worse than THEN WHO WAS PHONE in terms of setting up mystery.
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>>54183502
I'm using some of the FW DA legion bits for my Fallen too. Love the helmets.
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>>54183484
>Why would they be restricted to walking when fielded as imperium?
Nothing says that FALLEN isn't also a chapter keyword. You're just assuming that it isn't. Same concept as the WTC argument except that this hasn't been FAQ'd and the FAQ hasn't clarified that a keyword can only be a part of one generic grouping
>And you realize they were generic DA at some point right?
Generic DA who literally no longer have access to anything like Land Raiders or other technology beyond what their warband has and what they had on hand after the destruction of Caliban
>besides I dont think that being cast aside suddenly evaporates all your gear
Actually read DA lore please thank you.
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>>54183509
it's just slowly building up towards 40k's own End Times.

We're halfway there with Dark Imperium so expect to see him more
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>>54183509
Okay Alfred Hitchcock (2017), explain to us how to do a mysterious character properly then. I'm sure one of your animes has some great examples you can draw from.
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>>54183511
sperg/10
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>>54183530
>not an argument
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>>54182981
GKs also upgrade their Smite to flat 3 damage vs. Daemons.

And ya. A shit ton of 2d6 denies where Horrors only get 1d6 to manifest really limits Smite spam.
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>>54183509
The point of Cypher is that he doesn't give longass anime monologues to explain what he's about to do. He appears, does something and leaves.

Do you really need every character motive fingerpainted on a napkin?
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>>54183520
Good mystery requires a payoff. Consider the difference between North by Northwest, Rebecca, Chinatown. and the shit found in Prometheus.

Don't tell me you think Prometheus had good mystery elements to it, anon.
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>>54183542
>There are no rules to prevent a DA army to ally with Cypher or the Fallen anymore
>Cypher good guy confirmed
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>>54183559
>YOU HAVE TO END YOUR STORY AT MY PLEASURE OR IT'S A BAD STORY
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>>54183495
Eisenhorn has me really curious, but the AudioBooks are crazy expensive, and I can't for the life of me find any torrents/downloads. I've found many other audiobooks this way, but not the Eisenhorn series. Could anyone either point me in the right direction, or maybe even upload it?
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>>54183567
I think it's supposed to represent shit like the Ouroboros incident where Cypher turned himself in to the DA temporarily. Or something. Either way it's a retarded oversight.
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>>54183578
There's an audio-book Anon that pops up every so often with a large list of downloadable link.
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>>54183582
>cypher having imperium and chaos keywords
>an oversight
lol you retard
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>>54183576
to be honest I hope they don't fix it.
I'm a huge DA fan but Cypher is definitely my favorite character.
He's like edgy but done right, also badass rules with dual wielding flintlocks.

Azrael was pretty swell when dealing with Cypher so who knows, maybe they're BFF now
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>>54183577
Prometheus fan spotted and 40k newfag megadetcted
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>>54183511
to be fair there's no reason why his little Fallen army couldn't have been plopped into the current era land raider and all. The Warp could have literally dropped them off yesterday. (should use a MKII land raider though)

>>54183595
it's the ability to work with DA that's the problem, not the Imperium at large
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>>54183606
Not even close, try again Baba Vanga
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>>54183511
>Nothing says that FALLEN isn't also a chapter keyword
See thats what I was talking about, how the heck are we supposed to know? I just assumed it wasn't a chapter keyword because the DA bonus against them.
>no longer have access
>actually read DA lore
Yeah, not like cypher has sympathizers in the inner circle that might "forget supplies", and thankfully its not like the fallen are known for opportunistic attacks on their former brothers but even if they happened upon some unfortunate souls who had an "accident" they'd be kind enough to ensure their equipment sees its way back home
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>>54183627
>not even close
Sorry Mr Peddler I ain't buying your shit
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>>54183628
To be fair a Land Raider is such a sacred piece of equipment that DAs + successors would go to all lengths to retrieve it.
Especially if that means getting their hands on the Fallen.

Oh boy
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>>54183542
>Fingerpainted on a big-ass sword of doom
'Kay
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>>54183650
Who says it was DA who lost it?
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>>54183672
>Who says it was DA who lost it?
>The reason Blood Ravens steal so much is because the Fallen keep stealing from them.
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>>54183069
I really need help with this, I'm tired of being beaten down by the two WAAC fags I'm playing with
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Your Legion is inferior.
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How much do the none-DA parts of the imperium know about Cypher? If he's just some heretic for all they know why would they work with him ever, and if they think he's loyal, why aren't they asking the DA questions?
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>>54183709
>Black
>Hooded
>Leader holds 2 pistols
>Good at running
>Good at stealing
Jesus Christ, DA were hunting BBC this whole time. No wonder they wanted to keep it a secret
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>>54183510
Those are great. But then again, black white and red always were the colours of people with good taste.
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>>54183582

Shouldn't BA have the necron keyword by the same logic?
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>>54183743
Cypher erases any trace of his presence after he bails ie reports/witnesses when necessary but when someone does ask, look what happened to those templars who caught him
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>>54183743
The lore is that you're a huge big deal if more than 50% of Imperial worlds know about you as an individual. Which is why Grimnar, Dante and Calgar are legends because most every Imperial citizen knows who they are. With regards to individuals beneath those three, Imperial citizens just see a "Blood Angel". They probably have no idea who Cypher is. He looks like a Dark Angel so he must be an ally. If he fucks you up and you are allied to the Imperium you're going to be one confused motherfucker. This is why he's been able to travel the Galaxy without anyone in the know really knowing what he's up to.
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>>54183628
>Yeah, not like cypher has sympathizers in the inner circle
One shitty heretic Chaplain in the Inner Circle is definitely powerful enough to get a land raider for Cypher. Right.
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>>54183728
You have too few models for the points value and too many transports for the number of models you have. Ditch the land raider and get more models.
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>>54183827
>one heretic
>Dark Angels
Thats funny anon
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>>54183852
Maybe he ment that one guy is straight.
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>>54183861
One chappie who doesnt gobble cock in the entire chapter? Sounds about right
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This is probably a retarded question but is there anywhere to play 40K online? I wanna get into the hobby but I live in a small hick town and the nearest hobby shop is two hours away.
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>>54183852
From the DA point of view that Chaplain is a heretic.
>FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL
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>>54183873
I think there's a virtual tabletop version (unofficial) but I've never used it
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>>54183753
Wouldn't this effectively make the Fallen gay niggers in outer space?
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>>54183730
Remember when we was about to sacrifice Perturabo to our God, only for you to be saved at the last second by some filthy loyalists?

Good times.
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>>54183899
Yes
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>>54183873
There is program on Steam called Tabletop Simulator that some people use. Google it.
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>>54183910
Did this actually happen?
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Oh my god i just realised Smurf's toilet logo looks the same as Yanari one except the stick.

Congratulations on your marriage! Damn i am slow.
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>>54183971
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>>54183777
>Which is why Grimnar, Dante and Calgar are legends because most every Imperial citizen knows who they are.
Actually, according to the writers, most imperial citizens don't even know about space marines, let alone the names of any of them. The only individuals that the majority of people in the imperium are likely to know of are the primarchs and saints (and then usually many years after their death before knowledge of them becomes commonplace).
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>>54183922
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>>54183850
Would ditching the raider and replacing it with 5 jump pack vanguards and a jump pack librarian would do it ?
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>>54184014
Perfect
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+++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [106 PL, 2000pts] +++

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Gay Niggers From Outer Space) [56 PL, 1084pts] ++

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [7 PL, 163pts]: Chainfist, Combi-melta
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor, Lord of Chaos, Sigil of Corruption, Teleport Strike

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 83pts]: Plasma pistol, Power maul
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor, Sigil of Corruption

+ Troops +

5 X

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 59pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist, Flamer, 8x Replace autogun with autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

+ Heavy Support +

Havocs [13 PL, 204pts]: 7x Havoc, 4x Lascannon, No Chaos Mark
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Hellforged Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 339pts]: Grav-flux bombard, Grav-flux bombard, 2x Hellflamer

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Gay Niggers From Outer Space) [50 PL, 916pts] ++

+ HQ +

Cypher [6 PL, 110pts]

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 325pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor, Teleport Strike
. Chaos Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-melta, Power fist
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-melta, Power fist
. Terminator Champion: Combi-plasma, Power sword

Fallen [10 PL, 169pts]
. Fallen Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 5 x Fallen w/Special Weapon: Meltagun

Fallen [10 PL, 156pts]
. Fallen Champion: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. 5 x Fallen w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Fallen [10 PL, 156pts]
. Fallen Champion: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. 5 x Fallen w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)
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>>54184043
Not too familiar with them but probably. Also you know if you keep losing to local people you might consider thinking about what you are going up against and planning accordingly.
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>>54184076
Would fight against you with my gay catholic jews from outer space/10
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Soon Cypher and his patron god Malal will fuck everybody.
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Anyone in the CT/MA area? Ive been stuck with the same 3 guys all summer and would kill for some army diversity.
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>>54184014
Youre the best anon
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>>54184111
Why the Champion instead of the Ancient?
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>>54184125
Because I don't have enough points for the Ancient and find him a bit underwhelming. You don't really need that +1A when you're already shredding most units to pieces as is.
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>>54184138
I run a very similar list except with Sammael on Sableclaw. Try it out sometime, twin heavy bolters and twin assault cannons with rerolls are fucking amazing.
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>>54183593
Pls audiobook-anon
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>>54184191
I don't have Sableclaw but I might get it sometime if I feel like putting those spare parts I have leftover from my DA biker upgrades to use. Only thing that worries me about him is that he's targetable despite being a character which might hurt his survivability.
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Do I have to add two big shootas to the point cost for Zhadsnark da Ripper?
Or do named HQs come as is?
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>>54183203
>>54183239
>>54183284
>>54183335

They had 0 saving, it just a bundle with bunch of stuff together. I doubt they even have their own box like AoS skirmish. Plus these bundles are usually terrible for team build. Like the GSC, Ork, AM, Necron, Tyranid,... you won't be able to make a full team. And the price of these bundle is mostly for Specialist that you'll usually need 1.
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>>54183971
I like how totally in-character he was about the whole situation until he got saved by the loyalists.

>"oh bother, I'm the victim again...
better just accept that I'm stuck and Fulgrim is gonna ascend."

Pert's basically Chaos Eeyore.

inb4 someone says Mortarion, even though Morty actually tried to resist and overcome instead of victim complex-ing his way to space-Elliot-Rodger.
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>>54184111
thanks for the autowin, gaymarines
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>>54184283
That list completely BTFO'd some Taunigger who tried to use his shitty crisis suits as a deathstar and ended up failing miserably lmao
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++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [25 PL, 485pts] ++

+ HQ +

Company Commander [3 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword

Lord Commissar [4 PL, 55pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword

+ Troops +

Conscripts [4 PL, 150pts]: 50x Conscript

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 53pts]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 53pts]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Elites +

Commissar [2 PL, 35pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [64 PL, 1178pts] ++

+ HQ +

Knight Commander Pask [14 PL, 264pts]: Lascannon, Multi-meltas, Storm Bolter
. Command Exterminator: Turret-mounted Exterminator Autocannon

+ Heavy Support +

x8 Basilisks [12 PL, 216pts]
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

x2 Manticore [7 PL, 133pts]: Heavy Bolter


++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [16 PL, 337pts] ++

+ HQ +

Company Commander [3 PL, 45pts]: Plasma pistol, Power fist

+ Elites +

Master of Ordnance [2 PL, 38pts]

Master of Ordnance [2 PL, 38pts]
+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 72pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 72pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 72pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon

++ Total: [105 PL, 2000pts] ++

Does this please the Imperium?
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>>54184076
>106 PL

>>54184300
>105 PL

Why include power level at all if you're not keeping your list within a typical limit (50/75/100/whatever)? If you're only working with points then it's only worth including points, surely?
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>>54184300
Give your Infantry Squads a Heavy weapon you ass
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>>54184357
Look like a copy paste from Battlescribe.
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>>54184357
battlescribe includes it automatically
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>>54184357
it's just the default setting on BS
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>>54184300
your maths for the spearhead detachment is confusing me

8 x 108
2 x 133
1 x 264
totals 1394

did you mean 6 Bassies?
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>>54184412
ignore the points, I had to delete some text to fit. That's 8 basilisk and 2 manticores.

>>54184361
narh, would rather run them up board to objectives with cheap flamers.
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>>54184357
You need to include PL because some missions call for it

Also helps for ITC events where kill points are based on PL
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>8th edition is 100 years after 7th
>Farsight is dead
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>>54184436
He hung himself while jacking off to anime and died
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>>54184203
They usually come with wargear included, but if you look up the points cost in the list it specifies if they do or not. Zhadsnark doesn't, so you have to pay for his gear.
>>
Are we back or what?
>>
>>54184436
Pre-6e Farsight was already hundreds of years old. These days, apart from his life stealing sword, the tau also have live prolonging drugs and soldiers in transit spend their time in stasis, prolonging their lives.
>>
>>54184519
What happened?
>>
>>54184436
Hadex Anomaly time-shenanigans, and maybe some cryo something? I'm honestly more curious about whether or not they've been continuing the whole Aun'va-hologram thing for the past hundred years. You think someone would have caught on by now.
>>
>>54184436
His sword steals the remaining natural life span of the people he kills and adds it to his own. Given that Dante lived for over a 1000 years and that Farsight probably cut apart plenty of marines make him effectively immortal barring a bolter to the cockpit.
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>>54184076
Get MoK and a banner on terminators. Maybe take all plasmas too.
>>
Can Pask order himself?
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>>54181845
>>night lords' ballet company
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>>54181920
The Imperial Guard is basically composed of auxillary forces that planets tithe to the Imperium as a form of tax. As such there is a tremendous variation in gear, technology, and military doctrine between regiments levied from different planets.
I for one have always wanted to build an Imperial Guard-army as Space Caroleans.
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>>54185704
So Mordians with a different hat?
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>>54185756
Mordian Iron Guard is one hat yes.
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