Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>54177936
>TFW a thread that was heavily active for hours suddenly goes dead due to a shitty OP

>>54178182
I mean, nobody's really talking about much, what with the emerging guns issue resolved. Probably working on apps for Iron Gods. Uhhh, you got a current game?

I have no iron gods ideas, kill me

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>>54177936

When was the last time your character got into serious trouble, /pfg/? How did they get out of it?

>>54178346
Got time-stopped by a wizard BBEG. Boy was he surprised when I pulled a Jotaro and made him lose his Gate spell during said timestop

>>54177717
Sorry, but I can't get the link to work and I'd really like to be right, because everything I've seen so far seems to imply not. If I have the thread title, I can go from there.

>>54178346
When his game died.
>ow did they get out of it?
Unfortunately you don't recover.

>>54178346
We almost died recently fighting a god's champion and a sliver of Himself! We had a single scroll of Wish that saved us, then we shifted the battle to a better location and beat their asses. We were still at death's door, though. If we hadn't remembered that scroll, she definitely would have died trying to let the others escape.

>>54177936
>How do you feel about using Call Weaponry/Discipline Blade Shapes/whatever to make technological crap like Vortex Guns and X-Lasers? Would you ever play it? Allow it?
If they're proficient in the things and have handled them before so know waht the fuck they do, I don't see why not.

That said, I'd never permit proficiency in or knowledge of such items unless I intended the players to have free access to them.

>>54178346
Only two sessions in with this character so far, so can't cite an actual gameplay moment.
In backstory, his most recent tribulation would be convincing the recruiter that he wasn't crazy for claiming to be half a dozen historical war-heroes at once. He didn't succeed in that one, and got dumped in the reject division.

>>54178346
Somehow he managed to convince the princess to give him a chance. He doesn't even know how he pulled it off, but he's not gonna waste it.

>>54177036
>Nola

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I really hate these kind of characters, because they're by far the hardest to review. Since I don't necessarily have anything bad to say about the character, but nothing stands out to me as being particularly good either. But just shrugging and making a non-committal noise doesn't do either of us any good.

Te pieces fit together competently enough, but they don't really... synergize, if you catch my meaning. The character fails to be more than the sum of her parts.

You've given her a fairly unique upbringing, but failed to come up with anything to say about it beyond "I hate demons."

You've picked an incredibly flavorful goddess that fits from a meta perspective, but has little relevance in-story (beyond a throw away line about dreams), and has no real bearing on who the character is at this moment. You could replace Desna with any good aligned diety, or even several neutral/evil ones, and it wouldn't particularly change anything.

Personality-wise, she's... once again, just kinda eh. Not particularly due to a failing on your part, but because "wit used to hide pain" is /pfg/'s shorthand for "insert personality here." She also doesn't really have any flaws, nothing that'd bring about interesting conflicts.

I guess the closest thing I can give for advice, is to work on tying everything together. Give her a unique perspective on cults, follow through on the talk of "dreams" from the first half, showing us how it still impacts her as an adult, show us a personality that's been shaped by equal parts demonic torture and Desnan dogma. The pieces are there, you just need to make them pop.

>>54178315
Don't apply. Problem solved. Apps are open until August anyway, shut up.

>Volatile Vaporizer
>the Liquefy spell
>melt the equipment of every creature in a 10-foot radius
Is there a way to simplify the rolls for this?

>>54178315
Whatever you do don't play a mesmerist

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>>54178362

How did your character break the freeze?

>>54178439
>not playing dante must die mode
I wonder what classes qualify as "hard mode" for each of the APs?

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>>54178372

Never fun when a game ends prematurely like that. Is the character one you'd like to use again?

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>>54178396

How did you come into conflict with a god? What sort of champion did he keep?

>>54178468
Probably that one Riven Hourglass thing that lets you move in a Time Stop.

>>54178487
Yes, but I doubt the chargen that would be necessary to create him without drastically altering his capabilities or personality will ever crop up again.

He was also made for an AP people don't play a lot so that's some double suck.

>>54178346
She got ambushed by about half a dozen bandits while she was all by herself.

She downed her mutagen, went full musclegirl mode, and slaughtered them all before her allies could reach her to help.

>>54178423
You should compare Elminar and Leofric next! Get us one of those tasty delicious dueling apps!

>>54178468
「God Of The Hourglass 」 stance from PoW:E. It lets you function as though staggered during time-stop and only within 50ft. With other magic items and Riven Hourglass maneuvers, I was able to literally appear in his face post-cocky monologue and wallop him with my phase-locking sword.

If it had been any-other BBEG, they probably wouldn't have had the audacity to cast anywhere remotely near-by

>>54178315
Make an Android that dreams.

>>54178556
Will it dream of electric sheep?

>>54178471

>Wrath of the Righteous: Magus or Kineticist
>Second Darkness: Anything without Dark Vision
>Iron Gods: Enchanter
>Mummy's Mask: Enchanter
>Reign of Winter: Water Kineticist
>Carrion Crowin: Enchanter

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Do hellknights have a role in Numeria beyond the generic enforcing law where ever shtick?

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>>54178399

What sort of heroes does he claim to be?

>>54178571
Now do EZ mode for APs

>>54178580
I don't even think there are Hellknights in Numeria, and if they exist they don't have any useful function.

>write backstory for app
>it feels like just a rambling mess of plot points
Well fuck me

You can't get to draft 2 without finalizing draft 1... right?

>>54178580
No. Numeria really isn't the kinda place for lawful types. Most Hellknights there would be passing through to go to the Worldwound.

I was taking a look at landsknecht while thinking of what to make for a high level game and I was wondering, this Stance of Assured Victory is some nasty shit isnt it?

While getting a minimum of at least +5 to everyone's attack rolls that stacks is good, the ability for everyone to AoO anybody that attacks the party seems particularly nasty at high levels especially if your party happens to be strong in combat in particular

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>>54178422

How does he plan to use it?

>>54176411
Probably either Quickened meta-magic, or something from the life handbook in playtesting.

>>54178619
I honestly prefer the level 7 class feature, that strike is everything that was busted about old pummeling style except it can be used on 15-20 weapons getting 1.5x strength

>>54178613
Exactly, though maybe we could help?

>>54178645
https://pastebin.com/fF50LMAc

>>54178634
>using quickened in spheres
>dem 4 extra spell points
Spooky

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>>54178524

How did they manage to catch her off-guard?

>>54177644
The only thing that occurs to me is that war hero works better if you can get crits, so choosing PoW disciplines that get you crits would well together.

>>54178504
It's a custom setting, and the main god was split into aspects because of warring beliefs. Some of those are dark aspects. A few of them got big in the britches, add had to be beaten until their forms on the mortal plane broke. That was long ago. At present, there's a plague that we've been trying to fix, and it's been linked to one of the dark aspects trying to come back. There's a god-fetus gestating in an old ruined city, and it has given sentience to the plague. We found out that the reason we've been able to fight the plague so far is a latent energy we have, but to get close enough to destroy the fetus, we'll need to awaken it fully. You do that, we need this princess, who was captured by the cult of another aspect to serve as his mortal vessel. So, we had to kill him and his champion to save her from becoming his vessel so she can unlock our super secret powers to kill a god-fetus! That's the gist, at least. I'm missing some lore because I wasn't there at the beginning of the campaign, and I'm shortening because I'm phoneposting and I'm sure nobody is really interested.

>>54178616
>>54178608

Damn I will have to find another game to make my Signifier

>>54178593
Haven't managed to get my GM to actually sit down and discuss world history to the point that I could do more than pull things out of my own ass, alas.

He's nearly six-thousand years old and the sole surviving worshipper of a god of war from a ruined pantheon. He's kept immortal in a symbiotic relationship where the god uses all its available power to keep him from staying dead so that it'll not fade into obscurity, but my character keeps throwing himself headlong into war after war as a ceaseless act of worship. As a result, he fights, wins, rises incredible heights of valor and prowess, eventually gets in over his head and sucks a bunch of Raise Dead penalties and goes back to normal grunt work, and the cycle repeats.

>>54178634
>>54178666
I seem to recall something from the handbook that lets you affect only yourself with a cure as a lesser action.

>>54178666
There's a talent in the life book that lets you heal as a swift for only 1 spell point, provided you hit with an attack that round.

>>54178629
To be honest, he's going to go with what he thinks is something she would want; on the other hand, he was never very good at planning things out. Also, even though he was very enthusiastic about her project to begin with, he's fully aware he's on very thin ice.

Here's a PrC tier list I found from the archives. Should there be any alterations?

>Good PrCs
Bloatmage
Brewkeeper
Daivrat
Dawnflower Dissident
Magaambyan Arcanist
Pathfinder Savant
Veiled Illusionist

>Functional PrCs
Evangelist
Hell Knight Signifier

>Build Specific
Agent of the Grave
Champion of Irori
Diabolist
Divine Scion
Eldritch Knight
Exalted
Living Monolith
Mage of the Third Eye
Winter Witch

>>54178737
>Bloatmage
I still await the day that someone makes a bloatmage woman that is slowed only by her hilariously engorged thiccness.

>>54178536
Leofric executes the concept better in almost every way.

Except when it comes to party interactions. Leofric is a serious man for a serious campaign, he's defined by negative and isolating emotions, which makes it more difficult for him to form connections with the party, and with NPCs. On the flipside, Elminar has his own issues, but is less dour and downbeat, which I think fits better with the silliness of the other apps.

>>54178674
Ironically, she was scouting ahead to make sure the area was secure while the party repaired the covered wagon they travel in.
Figured if there was a fight waiting it would be best to stage it far away from our valuables.

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>>54178737
>no Nobel Scion

It is because no one likes Leadership, isnt it!

>>54178426
But it seems like Ruhiel would prefer to be a Hellknight over bedding her fellow Armigers!

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>>54178683

Actually, that sounds pretty engaging. Wouldn't mind hearing more, personally.

>>54178662
>Human
>Using an Elven Curved Blade in the Realm of the Mammoth Lords
>Without a good explanation why

I love the concept of a pleasant teenage merchant princess getting forced to become a rough n' ready huntress, but it feels kind of hollow the way you're doing it. More specifically, you build up this great sense of adventure with the girl... Only for her to just sort of "and then she follows a plumed helmet all the way to the campaign start." We need something more concrete to connect the character to the campaign!

>>54178662
Stop trying to make Tome Smiter happen.

>>54178777
>Nobel Scion
>A character built around inventing dynamite

>>54178833
the ECB is mostly me going "meh, I need a good dex weapon."

Though I seem to have given a false impression of the time between the chance encounter and campaign start? There's a year delay between the two.

Hmm, an easy change would be to have her catch wind of rumor that her little sister has gone to Kenebres, and because of the call to arms, she actually has a way to fund her way to there finally.

>>54178792
I give it four sessions until Ruhiel's made a woman!

>>54178766
Ruhiel compared to Cyrielle next?

>>54178683
The fight with the champion was actually great. His AC was bonkers, but he was fighting our resident dexfag, so they were trying to get hits in while no-selling each other, but our wizard buddy made my character, the punchgirl, invisible. After we managed to take out the sliver of the god, the champion grabbed our princess, and threatened too kill her unless we cooperated. Little did he know there was an open charge lane. Massive pummeling charge damage from behind launched his head clean off the building. We then used our godeating relic sword to consume the god's remaining essence, and celebrated by saving the 600 slaves the cult kept. Now it's time to prepare to kill... 3 more, possibly. Should be challenging, but fun.

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>>54178841

>implying you dont wanna blow up a pit fiend but shoving as much dynamite into it as possible

We've got explosives!

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>>54178737
>evangelist
>just "functional"

Are you high?

>>54178766
>he's defined by negative and isolating emotions

I'm getting a heroic vibe from him. The classical, saga-type of hero, like Beowulf. This certainly comes across as isolating and a bit difficult to connect with the party, as you said, but the intelligent, strong and courageous warrior who fights for his people with humility and fearlessness is basically what you'd look for in an old hero.

>>54178662
You're setting up a call to adventure with her uncle and the attack on the caravan, then grinding everything to a screeching halt, only to build it back up again with the Hunter. There's no real need for her to have two barely connected backstories, when one will do just fine.

Personally, I'd ditch everything with the merchant, since it's almost entirely inconsequential, and just make her a huntress.

>>54178906
Hey, I just found the list. If you disagree, I'll just modify it since the original poster isn't around to say anything.

What are you applying as for Iron Gods /pfg/?

>>54178759
Krim allegedly did that already.

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>>54178934
Can I play a sci-fi big titty thicc kitsune?

>>54178662
>>54178873

See >>54178923

Make her a young baby girl who is the sole survivor of a vicious demonic attack on a Brevic trade caravan going through the Realm of the Mammoth Lords, like straight up 2-3 years old. She's still got the blood of Issia flowing through her veins, but she was born and raised a Kellid huntress.

>>54178922
Huh.

Guess that's what I get for being lazy and going off an earlier draft.

Where can I get premade mythweaver sheets? I just blew an hour and a half on a single character and I'm not even done yet. I need 4

>>54178955
What I want to do is build a story angle wherein the "knights" are cultists, which is how she gets dragged into the whole thing. So her being old enough to understand what happened when the caravan got killed is important, so she can eventually connect the dots. It also plays into the chance encounter well.

I need to find a way to portray the kellid huntress part of her as a peaceful escape, that she forsakes to nurse her revenge.

Leads her into the plot, gives her a character arc, several good NPCs to work with.

It's just not there in the current draft

>>54178984
Go to any random game that's recruiting, click on PCs who look interesting.

hmm

I'm looking at the electrokinetic elementalist

is there any way to deal with the adamantine tax there? Specifically for Particle Blade?

>>54178984
how do you spend an hour and a half on a basic character sheet.

>>54178884
While you guys are fawning over Ruhiel, I'm making a Hellknight that'll hate her for being a half-giant abomination. He's a committed human supremacist, after all.

>>54178934
>DSP monster classes allowed
>monstrous races aren't

Hmm

>>54179030
I hope you enjoy being rejected, anon.

What do we know about the LotLK CharGen so far?

>>54179030
Why?

This is like making a character for Jade Regent that is specifically targeted to give yourself an excuse to kill Ameiko.

No, scratch that, this is like making a character for RotJR that is mechanically designed to kill Onryou, specifically.

>>54178995
Where do I find those?

>>54179017
I'm sorry me and my players don't have every goddamned rule memorized and need things written down

>>54179059
Roll20

>>54179059
Christ dude

>>54179055
>mechanically designed to kill Onryou, specifically.

Hey now,

Valeriya is going pretty well for herself.

>>54179052
Level 3, 25 PB, 3rd Party Allowed.

>>54179037
I doubt they'll actually allow monstrous races from DSP, they're basically saying 'psionics and whateverthefuckelse allowed'

>>54179055
>No, scratch that, this is like making a character for RotJR that is mechanically designed to kill Onryou, specifically.
There were at least two apps for RotJR designed to fuck Onryou despite the fact that SEagle mentioned she'd dislike being romanced by either one.

>>54179030

Why would I fawn over them when I could fawn over fauns?

>>54179087
He did specifically say that DSP monster classes are allowed.

>>54179082
No gestalt?

>>54179089
To be fair, both of those were just genuinely awful and nobody in their right mind would give them the time of day.

>>54179089
Which ones?

>>54179067
no way of searching by level, and most posts don't have sheets attached

>Tuvarkz WoTR is flourishing despite all attempts by the Cabal

Feels good.

This would be pretty good in an Iron Gods game right?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/archetypes/paizo-alchemist-archetypes/crypt-breaker

>>54179110
I think IDrive made a tiefling at one point before he went with a centaur futa instead, and two other guys made lizardfolk. One of those was actually fairly competent, if bizarre. The other was hilariously terrible.

>>54179101
Where

>>54178823
Oh, that's... surprising. Well, the one we killed was the chained one. His herald was a ganesha, and he'd sent them after is a number of times. Nasty piece of work, Huge elephant outsiders with axes. He worked closely with Surya, whose herald is a burning man. Surya has no present followers, so he's much weaker and was piggybacking the chained one. We're aiming to kill him next while the princess settles affairs in her kingdom and becomes the new queen, since her mom is too far gone. Then we unlock our chakras, which will take saves. After that, we're off to kill Kab's fetus to free the old capital that was destroyed in her coming. She has also spread her power through select followers that are influencing the progression of the plague, so after the fetus, we have to kill those. There's another coming who was planning to consume Surya for more power, but we don't have much on him. Piecing together the past and learning more about the setting has been fun. It's E11, so that wish was a pretty big deal. Lucky we had it.

>>54179110
A gatordude and a snakedude. Don't remember their names.

>>54179124
Actually, yeah, that would be pretty good.

>>54179120
shut up faggot we're talking iron gods now

>>54179119

>Give me free sheets
>Here's a site
>NO I WANT YOU TO SPOONFEED ME SHEETS. REEEEEEEE

>>54179143
Gerbek and Skarp.

>>54179139
In the DM questions thread.

>What are the racial limitations? You stated Dreamscarred is on the table, but does that include all of their Monster Classes?
>Yes it does my dude.

>>54179040
If I don't fuck things up too badly, I still have a shot.

The biggest drawback is as a human supremacist, he'd also have some hatred for Bethany for being an abomination, too. That's right, he's an asshole that bullies cute, stacked girls for not being pureblooded/natural born humans.

>>54179055
The kicker is that while he hates her, he's still a Hellknight. When he's not scrutinizing her for any lapses that he could note down and later present to his superiors, he's out smiting chaotic assholes and doing his job properly.

>>54179143
>>54179137
The hilarious part was how one of them just was like "Oh, okay then," but the other kept going "IMMA KNOCK YO GURL UP HOMEBOY MUH DIK MUHFUGGA" even months after the apps got selected.

>>54179055
Shes basically just a monk. Not being able to kill that is probably a sign that a character is mechanically inept or just not fit for combat.

>>54179145
>Ruhiel!
>Bethany!
>Cyrielle!

Doesn't look like you are to me, Cabalkiddie. Now fuck off back to your discord.

>>54179164
Oh wow that's bad. Thats a bad choice iron gods DM! You should change that! DSP monster classes are brutally strong compared to normal classes!

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>>54179107
Nope!

>>54179094
Because nobody makes fauns, silly.

>>54179110
The only one I know about is an Alligator chef getting hard-memed on account of his double penis, and there was another big bull of a man.

In essence, the idea everyone was going for in the "let's fuck the Oni" bandwagon was the belief that Onryou desired - no, YEARNED for huge cocks to stuff her holes with. This was a gross miscalculation on their part. SEagle likes incredibly large features, and they were going for the wrong thing with Onryou. She wanted someone with a huge heart, not a huge dick.

I do find it odd how Onryou was alone in being the target of Onryou-seeking dick-missiles. I thought the other memes like Casimir or Song Lilin would get the same treatment.

>>54179139
I asked in the ask the GM page on the forums for the game. Go check it.

>>54179189
Nobody cares dude, stop jerking off

>>54179154
More like

>"How do I draw a cabbage"
>"Draw a Brussels Sprout but make it big"

>>54179189
>Cyrielle!
>Talking about a tier 3
Why are we wasting time on this?

>>54179181
I'm not debating that. But making a character designed to clash with and have reason to attack another would be like making a character who does all of the following:
>Deals damage to people attacking it unarmed
>Drains ki
>Uses anti-Lawful spells
>Has native outsiders as a favored enemy
>Deals extra damage to women

>>54179198
I hope they change their minds, thats a SERIOUS mistake.

>>54179194
It's also possible he's just giving people enough rope to hang themselves by.

That's what happened in Overlewd.

>>54179212
>>54179194
Why's that?

>>54179208
The funny thing is those would all be super useful abilities in a Jade Regeant campaign, period.

>>54179213
On the other hand, I know I would be seriously dissuaded from apping to a game with monster classes

>>54179221
They're incredibly powerful, giving massive stat boosts ontop of already good abilities. Kind of like dragon disciple but on crack.

>>54179205
Ohoho, someone didn't notice the game changed time specifically so it could fit into one of Sappy's time slots.

>>54179247

The power of polls

>>54179253
More like Tuvarkz is so thirsty for attention he's letting his picks be swayed by the thread, a wubu-like maneuver.

>>54179212
Yeah, I figured somebody should ask, since the GM said all DSP. I'm not applying so it doesn't really concern me, but they seemed open to suggestion about emerging guns, so you could probably explain and they'd drop the option.

>>54179262
Seems standard for /pfg/ to me

>>54179262

So what you are saying is I should really start self-shilling my app?

>>54179297
Yup.

>>54179262
That's pretty much every /pfg/ game.

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>Be GM
>Host game with randoms and a few actual friends
>Player drama between the friends and the randoms causes several problems
>Culminates in one player straight-up quitting mid-session
>Then it comes down to deciding who to follow; The remaining friend or the randoms
I never asked for all of this drama, especially in my first game

>>54178364
Gee, could it maybe be Dreamscarred Press FAQ? Nah, that surely wouldn't have any answers from DSP answering questions about their products or anything since their forums are the biggest pile of shit ever.

>>54179196

>Nobody makes fauns

And the world is a poorer place for it.

>>54179303
>That's pretty much every /pfg/ game.
That's pretty much completely wrong except for the obviously shitmeme games.

>>54179330
>ywn bridal carry a faun over the dirt to keep their pristine clippy-cloppy hooves from getting scuffed up and dirty

why live

>>54179352
So all of them?

>>54179352
Can I get a list of obvious shitmeme games?

would it be weird to be a fey thing in iron gods

>Iron gods DSP monster classes now banned

THERE IS A GOD

>>54179407
Like... What? A faun-person or something? It would take some working out for the backstory, but I think the Nature vs. Technology or even Nature using Technology angle could be a fascinating one.

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>>54179418

>>54179418
I'm not as well acquainted as I probably ought to be with 3rd party options so I am very grateful for everybody who's advising me on balance concerns. Thank you all.

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>>54179418
But they really aren't that strong for a non-gestalt game starting at level 3.

>>54179407
Yes. Very much.

I swear /pfg/ has really narrow character interests
>animal people
>fey
>knights
>homely waifus
>tieflings with big assets
>aasimer with big assets

>>54179369
But anon, their hooves are designed for dirt! I bet they'd even find the texture pleasant!

>>54179445
they absolutely are.

>>54179428
I'M NOT SAYING I'M AGAINST A FAUN PERSON, ITS JUST NOT MY PRIMARY GOAL.

>>54179452
Honestly my other idea just appealed to me less and less as time went on.

>>54179467
I don't care! I will carry them like that so that I can keep those pristine clip-cloppers nice and clean!

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>>54179475
Tell me how a level 3 monster class is any worse than a PoW guy.

Or an aegis.

Or a gifted blade/psychic armory/war soul.

Or an avowed.

>>54179330
>>54179369
>>54179467
>>54179486

Would you a doe(male)?

>>54179493
Yes, yes I would. Very hard, in fact

>>54179490
>PoW
Ban the problematic disciplines and its absolutely manageable
>Aegis
... Its a t4 class? Who cares?
>Over archetyped soulknife
Yeah they're annoying, but anyone who twinks their char out that much can be safely ignored
>Avowed
Not that strong

Compare to something like the DSP succubus, or Dragon, and the differences become clear.

>>54179452

But anon, I like mad scientists and explosive mages.

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>No interest in Iron Gods or WotR
>Have a game I want to GM but know I'm not a good GM so probably a bad idea to try and run
>Still want to do something

This is hell.

>>54179515
Run it anyway, most GMs around here aren't actually all that good.

>>54179504
> but anyone who twinks their char out that much can be safely ignored
>that
>twinking

>>54179524
>my character's only stat is wisdom, they have manifesting, can attack at all ranges, and have maneuvers too.

>>54179515

You wont become a better GM without practice!

>>54179533
So an avowed?

>>54179515
Pitch your game.

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>>54179504
>aegis
>tier 4

Total noob here, my prospective party seems to be shaping up to be heavily melee martials, what class should be perfect? I fear that doing another melee martial would not only add fuel to the problem but also cause might cause inadequacy on my part

>>54179580
bard or skald

>>54179551
Nah, avowed has its onyl stat as Charisma, which is way weaker :^)

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>>54179580
Skald or bard.

Doot your way to victory.

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>all this talk about fawns and does
I just remembered that some anon made a deer race or something, and I still have the link. Anyone want me to whip it out?

>>54179580
why don't you play a warpriest, skald, or cleric? they can mix it up in melee with the best of them, but have buffs that provide a lot of strength to martial characters.

>>54179592
Post it senpai

I WANNA MAKE A LEWD APP FOR IRON GODS

What sort of character should I make?

>>54179590
With all the bonuses and shit they let you have for Charisma it can pull ahead of Wisdom much faster as an avowed.

>>54179601
>Astrus Unliving
uuuuuh huh.

>>54179612
ALright I was trying to shill you caught me.

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>>54179601
You're going to apply to your own campaign?

Seems a little unfair, but good luck?

>>54179597
Okay, and here it is.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A0q5DEoX2fNWVSNVUaheeFOAjtBN0NQoS85s5SbZN-Y/edit?usp=sharing
And holy crap, is this a piece of weapons grade autism. The lore is kinda nice though, since it doesn't involve people getting fucked by deer or other animals. cough coughGarethcoughcough

>>54179618
Your game will gain traction just fine. Given your current competition, that's not really saying much is it?

>>54179601
>>54179618
this shilling is so inept its cute

Lewd app on the way, friend.

>>54179618
>>54179601

Dropped

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>>54179601
You've killed me

>>54179601
Ask to use that eros pdf floating around, and make a Mystic(Tantrist). Make her(male) cute, as that's a prereq to any good app.

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>>54179601
It hasn't even been a few hours and you're already dropping your spaghetti and self-shilling?

For fuck's sake.

>>54179646
come on, this is cute. CUTE!

>>54179631
It's pretty rad

>>54179522
>>54179540
Well, primarily my problem is that I don't usually have time to really plan out events for the session, either because I'm busy or get lazy and figure I can do it the day before. Maybe doing sessions every other week might help with that? I dunno.

>>54179556
The idea I had was for a homebrew setting where the PCs are all stuck in what's essentially an evil empire, conquered and ruled by a half-fiend and his seven lieutenants, each of which are supposed to embody one of the seven deadly need sins. Said half-fiend is the son of a demon lord who used him as his prophet for spreading his faith on the material plane, and who's now grown significantly in power from all the worship the new theocratic empire gives him. The PC's goal would be to lead a rebellion against the empire, starting with the half-fiend's lieutenants and working their way up. Game would also be lewd-friendly, but that's not at all the focus of the campaign.

>>54179676
There should be an option to join the Evil Empire.

>>54178934

> post-session erp game

Ehh. Gonna pass. It looked interesting otherwise though.

>>54179586
>>54179591
>>54179595
Thanks anons, I will take a look at them. First time checking out Skald and Warpriest for me really

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>>54178934
>GM wants cute+lewd bullshit
Pass. I just want a normal ass game with good char gen and a fun premise.

>>54179601
faggot.

>>54179730
sauce?

>>54179748
>>54179748
SMT IV

>>54179601
I'll make a lewd app for your game, Astrus. I get in to all the light-hearted lewd games. What kind of lewd character do you want me to make?

How do knowledge checks work for things PC's would have absolute zero ways of actually knowing about?

>>54179826
The GM says not to roll.

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What type on animals are native to Numeria? I've been wondering if playing as someone with dinosaurs would be cool or not.
If not, then I can go with my backup plan. Pic related.
https://youtu.be/0PWaJ6URRU0

>>54179935
>HE'S GONNA MAKE ALL THEM WHITE BEES LOOK TAME TONIGHT

Sup /tg/, I had my first TPK as a DM today. So this more or less happened in a normal session.

> Party enters a cave with a whole retinue of Orc Riflemen, and a Troll as their gatecrasher.
> Troll takes down the entrance, 'slingers take out guards
> They capture the other orcs guarding the cave
> New orcs refuse to join the party "Because their boss is bigger, Loik WAAAY BIGGER".
> Encounter a lamia wizard. Paladin NUKES her skeleton retinue, and they capture her simulacrum. They then locate the invisible wizard and capture her too.
> Progress deeper into the caves, enter an area that is dank swamp-water going up to their ankles, filled with shiny treasure in the water.
> Inside the room is a HUGE black dragon in humanoid form.
> Brief talk, they engage combat.
> Ancient Black Dragon spends his whole turn charging up his acid-breath(which is a line weapon).
> Btw, the party is level 5 now, but they have an enormous retinue and tons of explosives, so they could have feasibly taken this thing on.

And this is where the fuckup begins.

Aether Blade or Aether channel guys

keep in mind this is for iron gods, and I could likely access Aether drive if i take channel.

>>54179991
>ANCIENT BLACK DRAGON
>LEVEL 5 PCS
>SMASHES DOUBT BUTTON

http://www.captiongenerator.com/424272/pfg-contemplates-its-future

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>>54179991
>Ancient Black Dragon
>level 5 party

>>54179991
> The party was fully under the impression that the water was difficult terrain, didn't bother to ask.
> They also thought that another piece of terrain made them into a hallway. Similarly didn't ask.
> Party then forms a double-file line, doesn't spread out into the room.
> I ask them like 3 times in a row if this is 100% what they're going to do. Make it plainly obvious that they need to spread out.
> Their massive retinue takes off like 2/3rds of the dragon's health bar in one volley.
> Dragon's breath weapon wipes fully half of the party in one go. It's a line weapon.. It literally should have just taken out one or two people, and I was going to target their retinue first.
> Party apparently "left all their explosives back at the base" when I asked.
> Party proceeds to wipe as they don't have the heavy equipment that I expected them to use to kill the dragon.

>>54180020
>>54180038
Believe it or not, I fully expected a party equipped with a retinue of almost 15 characters, armed with EXPLOSIVES, such as FRAG GRENADES, and C4, to take out the dragon.

What's the difference between Greatsword and Greataxe?

>>54178346
I almost die every session. It's become a reoccuring joke. It would be harder for me to remember a time when he wasn't in serious trouble.

>>54180081
One is a sword.

The other is an axe.

>>54180085
Do you happen to own a flashlight and some cardboard armor?

>>54180081
One's a sword, one's an axe. You slow or something?

What kind of nickname would a Rakshasa-spawn tiefling use for her warband of mercenaries?

>>54180053
Well for one, Water IS difficult terrain.

Also maybe reconsider your maps if people think something's a hallway when it isn't with such certainty that they don't ask.

>>54180081
Greatswords' damage dice is a bit less swingy and they have a wider crit range. Greataxes have a better critical multiplier.

>>54180124

Which one is better for a Slayer?

>>54180121

Slaves.

>>54180121
The Pack? Her Litter? Her Pets? Her Fangs/claws?

>>54180081
2d6 vs. 1d12. 2d6 is more consistent. Weight and price. Crit mult and range. Read the statblock, honestly. It's not hard.

>>54178346
the last time my character got into a bind, it was because the GM decided to make an encounter "more challenging" by adding three above-CR golems to the encounter, thinking we'd steamroll them like "everything else" despite the fact that only one of our characters was capable of doing anything to them.

Oh, but it gets better; the GM brought in a psychic baby that mindswapped itself with the party fighter (the only character that could actually fight the golems).

This was part of the Shattered Star AP. I looked it up after the encounter happened; the encounter is three derros (which we fought) arguing over a table (not literally lying in wait) and one golem. No psychic body-snatching baby.

the game collapsed in on itself the next week when the session was the fighter's new character and a new player coming in to rescue us while the rest of us sat quietly doing nothing inside prison cells. riveting fun.

and then the GM had the gall to ask us to support his Patreon. We told him no, for various reasons (many of which are legitimate excuses) and he told us he was getting disheartened because were were coming up with 'convenient' excuses and messing up his campaign.

Cue exodus.

>>54180131
People will say that greatswords are more optimal, and they're right, but that doesn't mean that Greataxes aren't good too.

Just use whichever you'd prefer, the difference doesn't matter that much in the long run.

>>54180131
The greatsword has a .5 higher damage-per-hit on average and fares better against enemies with DR that's less than or equal to 6 + your non-weapon damage modifiers. It also crits twice as often, but two thirds as hard.
The greataxe fares better against anything with DR that's greater than or equal to 7 + your non-weapon damage modifiers. It crits half as often, but half again as hard.

Honestly, it's mainly about if you want more crits or bigger crits.

>>54180151
>support his Patreon
What. In what context did he think this was a good idea.

>>54180131
Greatsword is almost always superior in terms of consistency, but functionally it's not that different. Axe has more RP purposes if your DM allows.

Also, consider the Butchering Axe if it actually fucking comes out. If you are above level 1-2 start, the Cracked Opalescent White Pyramid Ioun Stone will get you the ability to use it without wasting a feat.

>>54180124
Honestly I deserve this shit. Part of it's my fault, part of it's theirs. I've thrown huge monsters at the party before and they've fared pretty well.
> CR 20 Forgotten Beast with huge regeneration, attacks that deal straight ability damage, and various disease related attacks?
> Take it down easily, since they had a tank that could hold it well enough, and a firearm equipped retinue to deal all of the DPS.
> Throw a summoning/healing Caster based boss? Gigantic Leshen Spirit? They nuke it down fast with what they had.

They've taken on things like this in the past, and have thoroughly proven to me that this group flat-out ignores the challenge rating system. I guess this fuckup is definitely on me, and I need to rethink a lot of things.

Next week we're going to start over in a different area of the setting. So I have a lot of planning and building to do for that.

>>54178346

When I decided to play a less spotlight character and the rest of the party just kinda meandered along aimlessly and occasionally RPd some bs.

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So I'm thinking about making a Fighter... except instead of a Fighter, I replace every single bonus feat, and every single class feature but Weapon Mastery, using three archetypes: Myrmidon (PoW), War Hero (SoP), and Spirit-Wielder (SoP).

That gives Fighter 4 skill points/level and additional skills, maneuvers and stances, grit and deeds, "greatness" and War totem auras, and a personal intelligent spherecasting weapon. I'm taking this loaf of bread, scooping out its insides, and filling it with bacon and cheese.

I haven't made anything like this before, and I'm going to have a lot of material in both PoW and SoP to dive through, but I want to give it a try. If anyone has any insight in regard to this concept, I'd greatly appreciate it.

>>54180177
I'm still struggling with that question myself.

/pfg/, tell me something that will instantly make me salty

>>54180181
Here's a tip.

Don't give them like 10 extra fuckboys to boss around as a 'retinue'

Action economy is king in this game and if you're letting them triple theirs, then well no fucking wonder they're wrecking shit.

>>54180190
M8, quiche lorraines are tasty as fuck.

>>54180208
Only Celebs got into Ensoulment.

Are Bardiche good for slayers?

>>54180208

Molthune Knights was a bamboozle

>>54180225
Yes.

>>54178934
IRON
CASTER
IRON
CASTER
TARKUS TARKUS TARKUS

>>54178934
Is Iron Gods even worth applying too?

What weapons is ideal for:ç

-Paladin
-Wizard
-Low-strength Cleric
-High dex Fighter
-Drunken Barbarian
-High Strength Fighter?

>>54180313
Judging by the incompotent shill earlier this very thread I'm thinking it's probably going to bamboozle.

>>54180328
-Falchion/Fauchard
-Crossbow
-Mace
-Scimitar
-Falchion
-Falchion

>>54180328
>Longbow
>Staff of Entwined Serpents
>Spiked Gauntlet
>Longbow
>Earth Breaker/Great Sword
>Falcata

>>54180313
I'm rather torn on it myself.

>>54180328
>Paladin
I've heard good things about the longbow for paladins. either that or a greatsword.

>Wizard
Get 'em a crossbow; they'll use it for two, maybe three levels and then expand into the wild, wonderful world of vancian casting.

>Low-strength Cleric
Depends on their dex score. Decent? Get them the best ranged weapon they can wield. Also bad? Get a morningstar and pray you never have to use it.

>High dex Fighter
Grab a scimitar and the feat that lets scimitars get dex to damage.

>Drunken Barbarian
Greataxe or Greatsword. Maybe a Butchering axe if you can spare the feat.

>High Strength Fighter
see previous answer.

What the best martial spear

>>54180223
So it works? Spirit-Wielder is all about being a better fighter, while War Hero is all about buffing auras, and Myrmidon gets you all the PoW you want. Sounds really complex to play, though.

>>54180188
I actually changed characters to one that could act as a driving force because of this.

>>54180451

I dont want it any more. I cant keep being the only one who makes the choices. The worst part is when it goes wrong and I get blamed for it.

>>54180465
I don't make the choices, but simply telling them to vote. Say something. Here are the options, let's move.

That's pretty shit of them. Talk to them about it. Hopefully they'll straighten up.

>>54179438
Don't be a dummy. If you didn't even read the stuff then don't blanket allow it.

>>54180373
>>54180344
I meant more, having never played Iron Gods, is it a decent adventure path?

>>54180564
Iron Gods is considered to be one of the more fun adventure paths. It has stumbling blocks, but it remains quite good.

Also, actually ask a question if you want an answer to that question, you dumbass.

>>54180515

The vote system might work but I am afraid they would just argue about what to do and want to split up.

I have tried and they always say they will and it lasts for maybe 30 minutes before it is right back to aimlessness

>>54180590
Fuck 'em. They sound awful. Apply to a memegame and erp with a sweaty neckbeard pretending to be a fatchest onee-san instead.

How do you carry a polearm, a scimitar, a pistol/throwing axe, a hammer, a dagger, and a bow at the same time?

>>54180613
YEEE

>>54180631
straps my dude

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>>54180631

So long its a shortbow, you can carry it in the quiver with the arrows.

>>54180634
Bow goes in a holster on your back or in the quiver while it's unstrung.
Hammer gets held on a loop on your belt.
Pistol or throwing axe goes in a kind of holster.
Scimitar goes in its scabbard.
Dagger goes in its scabbard, or in your boot if you're feeling fancy.
Polearm you just carry.

What if any are the general thoughts on using the race builder rules to make yourself a unique player race?
Race point limits or similar, or does this all fall under the 'ask your gm' umbrella?

>>54180631
let's see; polearm in hand, scimitar at the waist, pistol and throwing axe both at the waist, hammer at the back of the waist, dagger on the thigh and/or boot, bow on back in or near the quiver.

Come on son, step it up.

What's the point of taking metamagic feats? None of them really seem worth taking up higher level spell slots

>>54180661
Race points are wonky and unbalanced, so any player given free reign and a budget of even 10 points could probably make something horribly overpowered if he was trying to build towards a specific end goal.

This is definitely "ask your GM" material.

>>54180631
Bag of holding. Just cram it all in a heward's and produce as needed.

>>54180661
>make your own race
God damn fucking overpowered bullshitcakes

>race point limit
Stupid. Races should be handled on a case-by-case basis between the player and GM.

>>54180670
they are.

>>54180670
There's a few that are. Quicken Spell is always good when it's available, Rime Spell is great if you can go all-in on cold, Intensify Spell is good when you combo it with Magical Lineage. Empower Spell is probably going to get you the most bang for your buck, since it's a flat 50% increase to the output of your spell.

>>54180223
I concur. Additionally, I believe my first major decision will be what disciplines to take as a Myrmidon, as that most substantially shapes how I'll fight, determine which weapons will best work for me, and therefore what will become my awakened weapon. I make a good Myrmidon, the rest should flow.

I can choose four disciplines out of just about any of the non-supernatural disciplines. Scarlet Throne looks damn good, so other disciplines that complement that may be a good idea.

>>54180448
I don't know, anon, that's what I intend to find out. But, there are some encouraging signs. To activate your War Hero auras, you first have to achieve "greatness", which requires either A: killing a foe or scoring a critical hit, or B: sundering their equipment. "A" are the same conditions you regain your Myrmidon grit points, and "B" is made a hell of a lot easier with maneuvers and your awakened weapon.

>>54180661
It's dumb unless your GM is going to incorporate the race into the world or it's some weird setting thing. You actually have to work with the GM to figure out the history of the race, since one random fetishrace or something nobody has seen before popping in out of nowhere is dumb.

The mechanics aren't great, since you can reach the same results with wildly different RP, from what I've seen. Ask your GM, give them the concept, if approved, build it with your GM.

>>54180665

>dagger in the thigh or boot
>not on a spring loaded wrist sheath

Step it up!

>>54180713
>Not having two spring-loaded wrist-sheathes with daggers.
>Not also having a pair of blade boots

C'MON, STEP IT UP.

>>54180670
Alright, let me pose a thought to you.

A sorcerer has both fireball and delayed blast fireball, at level 15, right? one is a level 7 spell, and the other is level 3. one is fairly clearly better, just by mechanics, since it can be delayed and has a higher cap of 15d6

Except then you apply Intensify spell to the basic fireball (+1 metamagic) to bring them both up to 15d6. then you can apply empower Spell to the basic fireball to bring it up to 22d6. This takes a level 6 spell slot. One level lower, but much more powerful, than the delayed blast fireball. Once you get into effects that reduce the cost of metamagic abilities, suddenly you're looking at huge increases for much lower costs in terms of spell slots.

Alright, found a great piece of art. One lewd app coming your way, Iron Gods DM.

>>54180739

Can you modify a spring loaded wrist sheath to work on your thighs/chest/legs/boots?

>>54180224
Name them all without checking.

So just making sure I understand things correctly

If you're an avowed, and you take deadly agility, you can't replace your strength mod on say, Aether lance, with your dex mod

However, if you use aether drive, aether lance's hits get replaced by aether channel's hits, this means that you could then benefit from dex to damage on aether lance.

What weapons would make sense for a Spanish Muskeeter/Conquistador (particularly of the Spanish navy)?

>>54180772
Musket and a longsword probably

>>54180739
>Not having two spring-loaded wrist-sheathed daggers
>Two spring-loaded forearm-sheathed elbow daggers
>Two spring-loaded shin-sheathed knee-daggers
>Two spring-loaded boot-sheathed toe-daggers
>Two spring-loaded heel-daggers
>Two spring-loaded skull-sheathed eye-daggers

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Has anyone done an all-Vigilante campaign? I feel like the comic flavor could be super fun as an alternative to fighting Satan and shit. I'd be willing to try and pilot one if people could put up with me being a new shitty DM.

>>54180763
Succula
Disk
IKiD
Stein
RgPI
and Protag's Drawfag friend.

>>54180815
[airhorn]

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>>54180802

>>54180802
>Not being a dagger golem.

>>54180815
>Stein
>Succula
>celebs
Man what

>>54180814
I'd gladly play in one. Got a few vigilante ideas I've been meaning to try.

>>54180814
If you want to mix things up, consider gestalt.

No really, gestalt vigilantes aren't that bad and let the "heroes" feel more different.

Alternatively, hand out vigilante abilities as free stuff for the players and reward them with things as they progress.

>>54180814
Fuck yes! I would be so down for comic level shenanigans in Pathfinder.

>>54180802
>not having spring-loaded demiplane-sheathed daggers

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>>54180758
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/weapons/weapon-descriptions/blade-boot/

It's literally a spring-loaded dagger in your boot that springs from the heel.

>>54180802
Pic rela-
>>54180830
Goddamnit you beat me to it.

>>54180814
Maybe use Council of Thieves as a base for it? I feel like that AP could have worked well with the right adjustments.

How good are polearms compared to two-handed and one-handed weapons?

>>54180835
WHEN ALL OF US CELEBS

NONE OF US ARE.

>>54180814
I'd be happy to play this.

This is actually one of the few games I feel gestalt would benefit it, though.

>>54180851
Polearms are an excellent option.

>>54180835
Succula is getting there, what with the quality of his ruse apps along with the alright-good status of his honest apps. I'm not surprised to see him on someone's list.

>>54180814
How many people do you think would take Companion to the Lonely?

Should I get a buckler if I carry a scimitar as my secondary weapon besides a bardiche (primary)?

>>54180851
Reach is good. Reach is great.

If Path of War is allowed, Reach is God.

In any case, being able to hit from farther and cover a wider area with AOO is a great bonus, worth the sometimes worse stats on the weapon...especially due to how unimportant base damage is most of the time.

>>54180814
If it weren't a meme lewd game, I'd throw my hat in. Gestalt with one half vigilante could be fun as hell. If you got cool players, you could even rotate GMs for a villain of the moment kinda thing.

>>54180814

Do it anon. Do it now.

>>54180851
Generally speaking, you trade one point of damage per attack for a free AOO against anyone trying to melee you, the ability to hide behind allies while still meleeing, and to prevent casters from doing that stupid "ah but I 5ft step back and cast unthreatened" business.

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>>54180850
>>54180845
>>54180843
>>54180842
>>54180905
>>54180906
o-okay I definitely didn't expect so much interest so quickly! I'd be infinitely more comfy as a player since I've only specifically played a Pathfinder campaign twice (mostly a WoD babby), but Vigilantes have definitely won me over and if people are willing to be patient I can try to organize somethiiiiing?
>>54180879
first time reading that trait and holy shit lmao

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>>54180814
Could I apply with something based on this?

>>54180925
Take your time, friend. We can wait.

>>54180925

Well, if someone in the party has high CHA, getting a daily reroll pool for Will saves is a hell of a talent. The language is ambiguous enough that you can probably get away with brushing their hair or something.

>>54180947
He said he would prefer to be a player. Not to be a downer, but that's usually a bad sign.

I'd prefer to play too of course.

But I also wouldn't mind what
>>54180905
suggested.
>If you got cool players, you could even rotate GMs for a villain of the moment kinda thing.

>>54180952
Brushing hair, playing some sports, even an arm wrestling competition. A friend of mine bought a horse for her vigilante so that she always has a target for the ability, since riding the horse around fulfills the requirements.

What one-paragraph incident/story would work for showing in the backstory that a character is slyer than a fox? Do you have any suggestions?

>>54180952
Is that the one where you get a mechanical bonus for savaging your hog?

>>54180982
>There once was a fox that lived in the woods
>Enter PC
>Traps fox
>???
>Profit. Literally slyer than a fox.

Alternatively, bully a ditzy kitsune distzune? with clever ploys.

>>54180933
I'm honestly not sure how you'd accomplish that. Maybe a modified version of the Brute archetype?

>>54180990

It's a mechanical bonus for an hour of pleasurable contact with someone. Doing so gives you pool of rerolls equal to the higher CHA modifier between the two of you that you can use for Will saves or CHA skill checks.

>>54180982

Cao was known for his craftiness as an adolescent. According to the Biography of Cao Man, Cao Cao's uncle complained to Cao Song about Cao Cao's indulgence in hunting and music with Yuan Shao. In retaliation, Cao Cao feigned a fit before his uncle, who immediately rushed to inform Cao Song. When Cao Song went to see his son, Cao Cao behaved normally. When asked, Cao Cao replied, "I have never had a fit, but I lost the love of my uncle, and therefore he deceived you." Afterwards, Cao Song ceased to believe his brother regarding Cao Cao, and thus Cao Cao became even more blatant and insistent in his wayward pursuits.

>>54180933
That would probably be either Avenger with muscle growth flavor or Brute, right?
>>54180960
Yeah I'm definitely not gonna commit to anything yet, I mostly wanted to put a feeler out there. Gestalt seems absolutely perfect, but it's a can of worms I've never gotten remotely close to checking out, so that'll take a bit of studying too.
The rotating GMs idea sounds fun, reminds me of playing Fiasco.

>>54181027
Combined with some size increase cheese, it's not impossible. Besides, it's the inspiration. I wouldn't have to go full All Might, but I like the idea of the social identity being THAT different.

>>54181035
Gestalt with Vigilante isn't THAT bad, but you will have a full PC party, all of whom have good skills and all the problems that comes with that. Generally there isn't that much to REALLY abuse, though there are certainly strong possible combinations.

We should consider not allowing Avowed. I love the class but it slots in too well with a vigilante.

>>54181035

You can even do it as a series of one shots to help build your DMing confidence!

>>54181035
>The rotating GMs idea sounds fun
Fuck, I wish I could take part in that, but I'm the worst kind of procrastinator.

Is a longspear good for a wizard, clerics and classes without martial training

>>54181077
This. Episodic already plays into the nature of vigilante/heroes. One shot plots with characters and possible reoccuring villains driving the overarching story.

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>>54181077
>>54181101
Okay, yeah, that sounds like the best way to do it. What level should players be, in that case? I don't want to make them too strong and shoot myself in the foot trying to balance the campaign, but putting them too low just wouldn't let them explore the class(es) as much as they should, right?

>>54181089

Anything with reach is great! Ranged are better though!

>>54181101

That is what I was thinking. I see a lot of people say they are not good at DMing or dont have enough experience so why not do a bunch of one shots anyways? I was considering doing something and having lots of people rotate in and observe but idk how it would work.

>>54181117

3-5 to start should be more than enough. You are out of rusty dagger shank town which is the important thing.

What kind of armour is acceptable/suitable for low to mid-level wizards without ruining their spellcasting too much?

>>54181117
>>54181132
That's more or less what I was thinking. Also, I should probably have asked this earlier, but do /pfg/ games usually roll with voice chat and shit or text-based?

>>54181117
I'd say 5, though I've never done gestalt, so that may be too much. 3 is fresh out of RDS, so going a smidge higher would be nice.

>>54181141
Mage Armor.

>>54181141
none, Mirror image + mage armor + shield
If you really don't like mage armor, Mithril weeb skirt or whatever it is

>>54181152

Text based because Lewd is an overreaching theme and no one wants to hear neckbeards speaking about their cute massive titted sloots.

>>54181141
Ceremonial Armor, Hikimori (I think that is what it is called) and armored skirts/kilts. Also mithril bucklers

>>54181152
Text only is the standard.

>>54181185
>>54181194
That actually makes me feel a little better, I always feel judged when I talk to strangers online even if we're all having a good time, you know?
I guess I'll get something going tonight and see how it comes together. I'll let people know if/when they can start submitting characters and stuff!

>>54181208
Sounds awesome anon!

>>54181208
Cool. I hope it goes well. Please don't turn apps into a shill circus~

>>54181208
My advice: don't.

Take your time. think it through. come to us when you have something a friend says is worthwhile (it likely won't seem such to you, because you don't have confidence in your GMing without experience).

Ease into it and have fun. If you're not having as much fun as your players, it's not worth it.

>>54181089
With a crossbow, sure. You can coup with the spear if your Color Spray or Sleep goes off smoothly. Crossbow for hitting, since wizards aren't likely to be deep in str, so relying on dex is going to be more accurate. You also don't want to be particularly close, if you can help it.

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prepare thyselves.

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>thought of 2-3 good character ideas for Iron God's
>Mfw realize I shouldn't make them or else it might trigger/spawn the daddy-memers
I just wanna me a tough old man who kills machines good. Is that too much?

>>54181364
Don't let the memers stop you Anon! Play the character you want to play!

>>54181364
Just accept the daddy memes, who gives a fuck

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>>54181400
>>54181426
Alright! Old man ranger with a burning hatred for the Technic League and Robots soon then!

On a semi related note could someone give the the long and short of how Androids work in Golarion? Do they always stay the same age? Can they be made with fake memories? Is it possible for an Android to live his life unaware of his artificial nature?

>>54181364
Do the Shepherd Book thing and make it abundantly clear that he never had children and never married.

Shit just do the Varys thing and make him get castrated by a robot-dealt wound in his backstory.

>>54181364
Tell me about your tough old men, anon.

Would a river pirate be a rogue or a fighter?

>>54181454
It's weird. They're proper souls in artificial bodies. They age mentally but not physically and at the end of their alloted lifespan they sort of pop out of the body and off to the afterlife while another new android soul takes their body.

I might be misremembering.

>>54181478
Nope thats accurate

Its pretty obvious when someone is an android cause they have neat tech tattoo things

>>54181465
Either. They likely aren't all one class.

>>54181461
To be honest, they're mostly different variations of Papa Nier/grizzled vet. An angry old man who has nothing left but to kill the machines that took his family and happiness from him. I've got different build ideas for him though, one being a Ranger with a Dire Bat companion who will eventually go into Outlander, a Bloodrager or Barbarian/Sorcerer (the latter would be for Nanite Bloodline), or perhaps a weird Aegis/Magus building or something. Or maybe an Armorist since the DM okayed SoP.

I've got a lot of cool builds in mind, it's just a matter of landing on one and choosing.

And if the Old Man angle won't work, I have a few other ideas I could try to expand on.

>>54181487
>>54181478
I see. Well there goes that idea.

Is an Egoist Psion the ultimate fetish class?
>minor metamorphosis into any medium-sized humanoid
>can perform whatever kink the target/DM is into since they can fuckin read minds
Downside: you have to convince everyone to have a psion in the party

>>54181541
Every class is someone's fetish anon.
Even Core Monk and Rogue, since they appeal to masochists

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>>54181579
>female vivisectionist

You ever get triggered by someone else's app doing what you were gonna do but different but its still kind of your thing