Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for statistics.

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Is it a good idea to have 801 points of Dreadnoughts in a 2000 point army?
My friend says that you really need a high model count to be competitive, and that's spending 40% of my points on four models (Venerable Chaplain Dreadnought, two Ironclads and a Venerable with twin lascannon and twin assault cannon)

I was thinking of running a second Vanguard detachment with my TH/SS assault terminators, a Librarian terminator, Legion of the Damned unit and Imperial Space Marine, but that would leave me with only 550-ish points left to make my main Battalion detachment, which probably isn't near enough to make a good army.

Would it be worth it to include a Techmarine with my army if I'm running that many Dreadnoughts? Should I pay for getting him a bike and/or servitors or is just an on foot Tech-priest walking around with the Dreadnought cavalcade good enough?

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What's your power level /tg/?

My main army appears to be just over 300

>>54174660
I fucking love Dark Angels but damn did I laugh at this.

>>54174701
IT'S OVER NINE

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ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

>>54174690
your buddy is just being a waac faggot, go hard and do all dreads with two tech priests

>>54174770
Is this a song or...?

>>54174627

I wonder how good that 2E scheme would look on Guilliman if it were actually painted properly. You can tell the painter isn't incompetent but purposely painted it to a lower level.

>>54174795
https://youtu.be/qO6LWQhvzRw
Edgy game, edgy series, fun as fuck, and weeb as shit.

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I need a Warpsmith but don't want to use finecast, what do?

Will this guy work?

Are traitor legions fun?

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Why are there so many purity seals on Space Marines? Coming from Imperial Guard, it seems excessive.

Are they trying to protect their virginity?

>>54174690

All Dreadnought armies are like all Knight armies. They are weak to lucky hits from melta and other D6 weapons, and they have some disadvantages because they have so few models, but they are still viable.

Also if you play the way the rulebook says to play, they have a very big advantage in that they always go first due to having less models and this means you will almost always get the alpha strike and first blood unless you get seized.

There aren't any real disadvantages to having less models unless your opponent is playing a non-existent meme army like 200+ conscripts. You will be outnumbered which can be unfavorable, but it's not a huge handicap.

>>54174841
CSM are fun, we don't have traitor legion rules yet.

>>54174842
I think they get seals like a guardsman gets medals.

are shooty terminators good? Ive got both flavors havent tested either of them out

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>>54174701
It's low.

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>>54174907

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Why does this thread go full shit when americans and australians can post ?

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Is there a reason Grey knight terminators don't get access to storm shields?

>>54174922
Now if only I had 6 commanders.

>>54174933
they're not coward

>>54174929
This:

European day time:
>Discusion of lore
>Discusion of points costs
>people helping newbies build their armies or guide their collections
>tips for painting

American day time:
>LE DARK ANGELS ARE GAY XD
>shit slinging
>Telling newbies to fuck off and "lrn2play"
>shitposting
>/pol leaking

fucking Americans.

>>54174929
>>54175036

Don't know if this is bait or if you foreigners are really this stupid.

>America
>Australia
>completely different fucking time zones

>implying right now is even American prime time, everyone is still at work/commuting/dinner
>implying I haven't stayed up in the middle of the night American time and seen the pol shitfest that is EU shitposting, randomly making jabs at various obscure countries that nobody even cares about outside of the EU

>>54175036
You forgot that during European hours, the Shitsters of Basshole autist and the Slaanesh/Cheetah autist come out to play.

Your third world continent has its own demons, no need to focus on ours.

>>54175036
How's the muslim cock mate?

>>54174839
I took the axe chosen from dark vengeance and glued laser tendrils from the helbrute kit coming out of his back for mine

>>54175036
Nice samefag

>>54174627
I know this paint job is deliberate and it's retro but it still pisses me off.

>>54175078
>think america is 1 timezone

well at least we know you're a burger

>>54175114
Thats because not even half the burges actually go to college

>>54175106
It fits the new bright setting.

>>54175114
>zones
>s
>plural
>implying that sentence doesn't cover all 3 American time zones
>implying every single American time zone isn't completely off from AU's anyway

>>54175114
>>54175134

Didn't teach you dipshits to hit shift or period in school? Damn, just look at all these Europeans shitting up this thread.

>>54174627
Wow, its hideous.

>>54175187
They taught me to laugh as the spics cuck you and destroy your race and country.
Not so funny now is it?

>>54175187
Don't blame the european education system on its citizens friend. Blame their governments. Despite having Americans subsidize all aspects of their society by taking over military protection duties for their poor uncultured nations, they have been unable to properly utilize any of their borrowed wealth due to severe governmental incompetence and moral cowardice.

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>>54174770
And the autist returns to post out of context Tau pics.

>>54175187
>Assblasted after the word "College"

well, how surprising

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>>54175281
>Gue'la think he can fight us

Are you sure that's the right discord server?

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>>54174788
>>54174861
>>54174825
And I mean, each Ironclad has two heavy flamers, and four attacks in melee at WS 3+, rerolling ones, the Chaplain has two storm bolters (so 4 attacks at 24" and 8 attacks at 12" or closer) at BS 2+ and 4 melee attacks at WS 2+, and he too gets to reroll ones.
And my Venerable Dread has two lascannon shots and four autocannon shots at BS 2+, both with a range of 48"

So I feel like those four wouldn't have too hard of a time chewing through hordes, especially with the Ironclads being Toughness 8 and the Chaplain being a character that's protected by those Ironclads in front of him.

Should I have techmarines on foot or techmarines on bikes?
Servo-harness or conversion beamer?

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>>54175298
>Something something Greater Good something something Apostraphe something something dying

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>>54175281
>Threadly reminder that random Kor'Vre reverse engineered the primarisation of human and tried it successfully on some Gue'la for fun.

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>>54175281
>literally just one image of Farsight
>out of context
Don't you have an Eldar to impregnate gue'la?

>>54174933
when do you think we will be seeing Primaris Grey Knights? I love the Grey Knights Aesthetic and the primaris designs as well and would love to blend them

>>54175352
What? No! What?

>>54175355

Eldar waifus are for guilliman only, he doesnt share

>>54175340
>Using a Titanic machine to defeat a dread sized suit
>Actually being proud of this

no wonder you struggle so much conquering T'au worlds.

>>54175352
Meme

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Now that the meta has changed and army playerbases are settling in, how would you describe the general feeling you get from players of each army?

>>54174933
>>54175018
My dick would be SO HARD if I could run SS/ Force Swords on my GK Terms. I'd LOVE to paint those mother fuckers.

>>54175352
What.

>>54175372
He only has one waifu for laifu. The rest are available.

>>54175352
Did Cawl blew up Cadia too?

Alright people

>As well as classic and well-known armies, you can expect to see factions that have never had their own codex before – starting with the Death Guard, available later in the year.

What are the new codexeses going to be? They said the rollout will take a year or so, so maybe they're rolling out 20-25 books.
Somethings like SoBs are rolled in with others

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>>54175378
Gue'la wont change.

Nanika o gisei ni suru koto ga dekinai hito wa nani mo kaeru koto wa dekimasen

>>54175426
Emperor's Children and World Eaters, are a couple.

>>54175426
Kroot Mercenaries or Enslaver
They did had rules back in the good old days.

>>54175397
How are those double assault cannon dreads working out for you?

>>54175426
Black Templars hopefully get their Codex back.

>>54175407
What's stopping you? Out of town ATM, but I converted a paladin with the deathwatch shields and it looks fly as fuck.

Just stick purity seals on anything DW-y and use the usual red/white and it's a sick model that makes a good draigo stand-in

>>54175417
Promethium can't melt necrodermis beams

>>54174842
>>54174868
Do people just not know the fluff?

>>54175369

Low down on the priority list considering GKs got marinelet resculpts not that long ago.

Gotta cover the following first:

Chaos Unaligned Models
Chaos Faction Models (Nurgle, Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzeentch)
Ultramarine (generic) primaris
Dark Angel Primaris
Blood Angel Primaris
Space Yiff Primaris

Then maybe after that GKs and maybe Deathwatch after that.

I actually figure we'll get rescaled Eldar before we get Chad Grey Knights.

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Anyone got the epub of pic related?

>>54175336
Be a straight baller and use librarian dreadnoughts and/or bjorn as HQs and field nothing but vanguard and spearhead detachments with literally only dreadnoughts.

>>54175426
Most of them will be marine crap.
Gay Nights
Nigger Templars
Ultracucks
Blood Pedos
Gay Angels
Furries
Gay Watch

Now we add
Black Cucks
Alpha Cucks
Sonic Cucks
Death Cucks
Word Cucks
Iron Cucks
Night Cucks


Might as well play 30k, at least there non marines army get something from time to time.

>>54175491
Cawl created the Tau.

>>54174933

No clue. They should allow it unless they bring back sanctuary or something...which will probably happen with their codex.

>>54175480
It would remind me how un-loved we are by GW every time I play them. Not to mention I usually lose anyway because I'm a garbage tactician and roller. At least my models look good while getting blown off the table.

>>54175397
>Tau
>For hipsters
Funny to look at things now

>>54175468
Enclaves much more likelier to get a dex on the tau side instead

>>54175477
>that have never had their own codex
>BTs

Sorry, but I think you might still be out of luck

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>>54175352
>Translation: I'm autistic and I like Tau

>>54175539
>Alpha Cuck
That's quite the oxymoron.

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>>54175474
I think I'm missing a reference, but now I want to know if any dread actually can take double ass-cans?

Deathwatch is the only flavor of power armor even remotely interesting imo, literally the only ones beside TS (or Primaris, but fuck that noise) that feel like an angel of death with enhanced weapons and gear.

I know a lot of people shit on Marines, and I love the lore personally, but am I the only one that despises how 'weak' (if you get my meaning) they are on the tabletop?

>>54175539

>implying Alpha legion and Ultramarines aren't the same faction

>>54175572
That's an actual cuckhold fetish term.

I want the primaris Librarian and a squad of hell blasters. How can I make them fit into my White Scars army? The snapfit models look like a pain to customise.

>>54175586
>implying there is any difference between the pride parade marine armies.

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>>54175571
>Posting literral mongoloïd to prove a point

When will they learn

>>54175585

Tabletop marines and Fluff Marines have always been different species.

At least loyalist marines get wanked by the authors most of the time. CSMs tend to die in droves in non-CSM fiction.

>>54175601
What? Which one is the alpha cuck?

>>54175585
when the game is geared towards marines and killing marines then it's not surprising you get that feeling

>>54175615
use fw white scar 30k heads

>>54174627
Dat Technicolor

>>54175564
Look on the bright side, we'll get something soon. Considering GK are the one group that even remotely notice or care about Mortarion, they'll pop in once he shows up.

I doubt we'll get models, and it'll probably be another "and then Lurd kaldor draigo one-spotted teh rimarch becaus he is da bestest Maureen evahr", but it's nice to get mentioned.

Plus explicit mention as one of the first codexes really makes me think GK will be playing a larger role (again, that's just saying mentioned offhandedly more than once) in upcoming events.

>>54175615

I'd wait to see if Primaris get bikes in 8e or if they get something wacky like landspeeder jetbikes just like Primaris tanks are gravtanks.

>>54175505
>Chaos Undivided
>Getting new models
Sorry anon, GW has some Enraged Skullchoppers and Bloodsworn Blood Warriors to sculpt

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>>54175571
>plays 40k
>calls other autistic

>>54175585
Back in the day (5th edition I think) I liked to watch battle reports because it was the only way I wasn't going to see smurfs or blood angels. In one of said videos one guy had grey knights and made the comment that you need a shooty dread with what I'm remembering better now to be two autocannons. Because you just didn't have any guys and were hemorrhaging in fire power.

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>>54175629
>Feeling threatened, the Ass'burg Sept calls for reinforcements from TsundereSight. Only it comes too late. Asses have been blasted, jimmies rustled, and triggers triggered

>>54175634
>>54175640
Fair enough. I do feel bad for CSM, shit on in lore constantly and the only way to play anything close to movie Marines requires being Thousand Sons.

At least loyals get Vanguard/Sternguard and Deathwatch

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Don't know if the guy from the last thread is still around.

I can stretch my budget and buy three Leviathan siege dreads for my Black Templars. How would you arm them?

>>54175538
Lib dreads suck. Muh smite

>>54174690
I spam two leviathans and 2 contemptors in my chaos list, its been really sucessful so far.

>>54175647
What worries me about being one of the first codexes is that the same thing will happen as it did in 7e. Codex drops, it's super bland and super weak, gets no support except for at the end of the edition with a unimpressive character(Voldus, who is now pretty awesome by GK standards), and an crappy formation all while serving as the guinea pig for future non-vanilla marine codexes to be based on and tweaked. Not to mention the balance disparity between the 2014 7e Codexes and the 2015 ones.

>>54175691
It really goes to show you just can't trust an elf.

>>54175637
The one who fucks the non-alpha cuck's bitch.

>>54175693

Honestly other than the Horde factions who die easily no matter what and the anonymous factions like Necron warriors most of the factions tend to die in surprisingly large numbers when it's not their faction in the fiction.

Eldar tend to die in ridiculous number whether they are Guardians or Aspect Warriors. Pretty much just Farseers get plot immunity

>>54175585
Custodes are much closer to fluff marines than marines are.

>>54175679
I'm guessing you weren't in last thread. There was a Taufag that even autist would think was autistic, butting into conversations and spouting about Greater Good, gue'la, amd Farsight no matter how unrelated it was to the topic and then go back to lurking until it found a new argument to sperg his blueberry juice all over. At least the SOS players had the decency of staying on topic.

>>54175702
>Black Templars
>anything but dual siege claws
You disappoint Dorn.

>>54175642
That was my first thought

>>54175665
Yeah I'm expecting Primaris Jet bikes at some point. I might buy the grav tank. It looks like it'll fit the fast attack theme.

>>54174933
Because then where would they fit their storm bolters?

>>54175734
I thought that was the bull. Unless you're telling me this dude is in a relationship with some husky broad who's seeing someone on the side while he himself is acting as the bull in another cuck triangle.

>>54175757
Aren't they 30k only?

>>54175718
Aw, now you made me sad.

I think we'll be okay enough, or loads batter than 7th anyway. Draigo's a beast (imo take him over voldus everytime, it's so good), characters are good, and melee means something.

On top of that, interceptors are a kekload of last-minute objective grabbing, strike squads are good and spammable, termies/Paladins are beeeaaasts, and stormravens are death from on high. Plus the doomglaive is stupidly good, and though I'm the only man alive with one that gives me comfort.

But yeah, we may die to powercreep. But at least we lived, no matter how short a time

>>54175757
Too bad we will never see rules for the 30k stuff from FW in 8th. Time to start homebrewing...

>>54175777

I assume the current grav tank is largely a predator stand-in with a maximum of 5 primaris.

It will be interesting if they get a hover-box that can carry 10 primaris marines.

Primaris Jetbikes might actually make for a great Ravenwing army.

>>54175810
no
the basic plastic dudes are in index imp2

Anyone remember codex catachan jungle fighter veterans? It was dissapointing that they were just ws 4 guardsmen.

>>54175748
am i a bad eldar player if i like using guardians and other conscripted eldar to play up the dying desperate race angle? i need to get some wraith units though

>>54175714
What weapons on the leviathans?

>>54175704
Yes, but they're a read HQ

>>54174907
Your really is, only 88

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>>54175852
I'm getting a warmahorde vibe for some reason.

>>54175864

>dying race
>sends off race as cannon fodder

Gr8

>tg FB pages and groups
>retards actually thought gw wasn't going to release codexes but only indexes
>they're all mexicans or yuropoors
>stray warmacucks hanging on to their cardboard disks saying something about "haha 4-40kids g-get fucked!"
You'd think GW was in the salt business with all they're producing

>>54175801

GKs should still have bolters integrated into their nemesis force halberds.

That way they could have force halberds, bolters and storm shields

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>>54175397
>Imperial guard: never kissed a grill in my life (played by 23-yearold with the brain of a 7 yearold)
>Necrons: Powergamer (yup. Cheesiest player in the store)
>Space Wolves: le edgy wulwulfwul (WOOOOLVES, MAN, WOOOOLF)
>Chaos space marines: shit taste (Is half bald, wears weird fucking clothes, smells, talks about random shit, cringiest humor I've ever heard)
>Chaos Daemons: I jack off to Daemonettes (talks about fetishes in the store, holy fuck stfu)
>Dark angels: GAYGAYGAY (talks gay, walks gay, looks gay. Hasn't ever admitted it, tho)
Holy shit.
I cannot believe how accurately this describes the people at my LGS.
I play Tyranids and Grey Knights? What does that say about me?

>>54175914
With humans to breed with the race's numbers spiked drastically.

>>54175760
The gun is to keep the enemy heads down while you run up to smash their fucking faces in with your claw.

>>54175833
Grav transports would make for a terrific fast attack army, I'm guessing what we get next for new units will depend on which Primarch returns.next.

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Finally, a model suitable to lead my homer simpson themed space marine chapter!

>>54175914
Why do you think they're dying, anon?

https://regimental-standard.com/2017/07/05/enriching-activities-for-idle-hands/

I fucking love the Regimental Standard, but I'd also like to see some other propaganda reels, why not some chaos recruitment leaflets, or a Tau News ticker? Ork Gossip skrawls with a Translation for the humie slaves?

>>54175929
When did you start playing those two armies? This is necessary info.

Still need to finish cost-calcs for the CSM subfactions, but the main CSM block is all done, conditional formatting added.

The giant block of green for Khorne Berzerkers is scary.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

Should finish the CSM subfactions tonight or tomorrow.

What can I turn primaris into for tau?

>>54175813
I'm glad someone is finding fun in the faction. They were my first army and I've tried so many things to make it better for myself, but between my bad strategy and straight unluckiness, the I really only like the faction for the fluff/models. I had even bought a knight that I planned to build into a Crusader to cover their lack of high strength shooting and 8e's point costs just made it a terrible idea to pair a Knight with GK in any match under 2500 because you'd have just too few models.

>>54175950

I assume they'll never really make Vulkan and the Salamanders a faction so really the only possible answers are Lion'el or Russ.

Bringing back Dorn when you have Girlyman is double-plus pointless.

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>>54175397
Theres good and bad players all over just enjoy the hobby

>>54175567
>Funny to look at things now
Well it was before all the Riptide Waacfaggotry.

>>54175983
can orks even write? as for chaos recruitment i would believe it if the alpha legion were just passing out pamphlets in the streets, hives, and offices in broad daylight

>>54175989
Do Daemons next!

>>54176019
Yes they have a system of writing that is open to interpretation and thus arguments about them.

>>54175983
>hydra dominates on the crossword

Fuck I love these guys

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What wargear should i give an assault marine squad given that I am taking one.

>>54176001
Yeah I can't see us getting the Khan any time soon either. I suspect it'll be the Lion next. I think Russ said he'd only return for the final battle during the wolf time.

>>54175397
GK should be the same as necrons.

>>54175994
what do you mean?

>>54176019
the orks primarily use pictograms but generally know enough low gothic to write simple words and their language is full of loanwords in both spoken and written vocabulary, a smarter ork could translate something coherent enough for human slaves to understand if only because it makes the grots smarter and less stupid as well.

Tau and the new Ultramarine Legion are on the same half of the galaxy now correct? How long before Guiliman gets bored beating up on Mortarion and decides to pick some blueberries?

>>54176032
There was a request for IG which I may tackle first, but Daemons are now right after IG in the to-do list!

>>54176049
>double checks
those fuckers

>>54176075
I want to convert them into something for my current army.
Failing that I'm just gonna paint them as Farsight enclaves.

>>54176058

If Space Yiffs get new Primaris scale models I think we can assume they'll get Russ. Considering they'd have to refresh a pretty massive line of minis I figure they'll do the Unforgiven and Lion'el next.

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>>54175987
....
please don't kill me for this....
I got into 40k in 7th edition.
>inb4 fucking newfag
>inb4 starting in the worst edition
Started with nids, since I thought, "Sphess dinosaurs, cool."
Then as I went along, I realized I wanted a "human faction" I could make characters and so on for (every one of my grey knights has a name written on his shoulder). I just happened to browse through the grey knights codex, got hooked on the fluff, ordered a grandmaster to try painting them. Next thing I know, I'm sitting here with 2k models worth.
There are two pictures that got me into 40k. This one:

>>54175397
Guard and Dark Eldar players are cute trannies. I've been playing both of them a lot and I'm trying to fuck both of them.

Other than that, Eldar and Tau are still gay. Space Marine players are kids and boring Chads.

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>>54176111
And this one.

>>54175983

Regimental Standard is for Imperial Guard regiments, anon. I'd be fun if they did include examples of other species, or expanded the site, but so far it's just showing off how horrible everything is for the standard human in the year 40,000.

>>54176105

What, Primaris Marines?
I mean, I guess there's nothing stopping you, but fluffwise that doesn't really make any kind of sense.

You also won't be able to field both of them in the same army, since they don't share any keywords.

>>54176060
Now or in 5th? They were good back in the day, solid now but nowhere near touching top tier except for the stormravens of course ;^)

>>54175996
It's a blast man. I tried a knight once too and it just didnt synergize like I thought it would, a stormraven, naught, or even an assault Cannon razorback are a much better fit.

But I'm happy that everything (aside from a few things, namely purifiers) is pretty good. Like I said, maybe it's just 8th being good or 7th being bad (or both), but GK are a goddamn blast, especially just demolishing Daemons. If you can tactics correctly, it's a slaughterhouse. Whip out your termies man, the emperor needs you

>>54175369
I wonder how they'll actually look next to the already distinguished GKs

>>54175407
I would start recollecting them immiedietly

>>54176086
I want to see his reaction to the crusades
>you got ambushed by tanks?
>what do you mean he teleported in from of a dread then "delet" it it?
>how many men did we lose without even crushing them?
>beaten in melee?

>>54176019
Orks have a common written language, but it's less letters more glyphs representative of words

>>54176126
Are you the sentinel guy from the other day?

>>54176162
I don't know what that means so I guess not. Who is the sentinel guy?

>>54176111
Lmao me too, the idea of the whole "ghosts of the Imperium" is what made me love them.

If you actually started both of those amies in 7th, I commend you. It takes balls to look at two of the worst playable armies and say "yeah, that looks like fun".

>>54176139
I know, it's just to practice.

>>54175104
Nice namefag

>>54176135
maybe sister sites styled after other cultures? hell even other imperial sects could be linked by the standard, the mechanicum and other such groups would offer very different attitudes even from their allies

>>54176178
Iirc Ultramar is pretty close to T'au space. You could paint them up as Ultramarines or a similar chapter that happens to temporarily work with the T'au to combat a common enemy.

>>54174842
I use purity seals when kitbashing to cover up the gaps and weird angles

>>54176086

Considering Farsight actually has his own Codex Astartes copy, and writes his own observations and strategies into it, he'd more likely end up teaming up with Guilliman.

Now Farsight is an alien, and Guilliman probably wouldn't like an alien having a copy of his own playbook to help them fight his own people, but I want it to end with Guilliman signing Farsight's copy, making him perhaps one of the few individuals or groups in the galaxy to own a copy of the Codex Astartes that's signed by the author.

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copypasting from old general:
What are you working at, 40kg?
Since I don't like GW model, and since all my DW veterans are made from primaris I'm making my personal Watchmaster.
Still a huge WIP, have to sculp some inquisition insignia, kitbashing a servoskull, add some other shit and use a lot of greenstuff to smooth the kitbashes and fill the gaps.

Also, how is DW doing in this new edition?
I'm not a competitive player at all but i'm curious how they are doing so far.
I'm probably just going to run mixed IMPERIUM detachments with an Inquisitor leading deatwatch, scions and grey knight terminatour just because i like the models i guess

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Guys, I don't have much cash left and I need to paint my orks cheaply. Is it possible to paint the ork flesh by using only 2 or 3 paints? When I'm watching WH TV tutorials I feel like I need a half of the LGS supplies

>>54175983
>Should you find yourself face to face with a skull-faced giant in power armour in the middle of the night, welcome him with open arms – he is most likely a Reiver.*

>* If any of the following details are also present – red wings on the helmet, flayed hides, or a corona of daemonic lightning – immediately consult Volume 2 of the Infantryman’s Threat Identification Field Guide, 49th edition, section ref. 17.a66.4111 – Hereticus Majoris (revised)

>>54176151
>tactics correctly
There's my problem. To be honest, I haven't ever won a game against the Daemons player with them, either. Back in 7th he would just pound away at my squads with his Soul Grinders and Bloodthirsters, my Dreadknights wouldn't live past turn 2.

>>54176233
Dude, for just boys you really only need like 3 and maybe 4 for a good look. Dark green base, wash it with brown/green ink, lighter green layer on raised areas and muscles. And if you're feeling really dedicated do a thin edge highlight of bright green on the brows and cheeks.

>>54175833
the primaris razorback (because thats what the hovertank will be) will have a capacity of 6, to hold one primaris squad and one character

>>54176214
>Farsight actually has his own Codex Astartes copy

Is that from the new book? I need to read it, Farsight was always one of my favourite characters in 40k, xeno Colonel Kurtz.

>>54176233
Basecoat Waagh flesh
Wash Nuln or Agrax
Drybrush with Caliban or something I dunno fuck.
Done.

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>>54176173
Gotta be honest, they weren't as bad as people made them out to be.
When I started out just playing pickup games, I got destroyed every. single. fucking. time. The people you meet in pickup games are either total noobs, so you learn nothing from playing, or asshats with cheese lists meant to catch you off guard.
But then I met a group of fun dudes to hang with. Tbh, they are THE Waacfags of the store. But, they're all really nice guys, and after playing with them for a while I got really good at using my armies. When playing, we'd talk list strategy, optimizing unit options, using proper units in proper places, etc,etc...
It felt good taking on an eldar scatterspam/wraithknight/d-scythe list, a white scars grav spam bike list, or a necron decurion with no less than 18 fucking wraiths, and even winning occasionally.
And here's the funny thing:
I don't own a single flyrant or dreadknight.
Take that, internet metafags.

>>54176283
>>54176262
Well, I still have straken green, death guard green and moot green. Maybe I should go unconventional and make them pale as fuck

>>54176001
>Bringing back Dorn when you have Girlyman is double-plus pointless.

I still want him. There are things to be fortified after all.

My money is on Russ returning next anyway.
We will probably get Ferrus Manus before Khan, since who actually cares about that guy,

How do you guys run your Chosen? Are 5 man squads with all combi-plasmas the way to go?

>>54176159

To be fair, it was Dorn Dudes that jobbed hard

>>54176274

>Guilliman would rather sign books for xenos than be around Calgar
Calgar is suffering

>>54176274

Basically the marines that follow spess book to the letter end up being a bit readable and predictable

>>54176328
When I did mine I just got out every green and brown I owned and went ham. Nothing wrong with some variety.

>>54176269

So a demi-company is 50 Primaris Marines

Do you think they typically deploy in 5-man squads or 10-man squads with a 10-man Grav-Rhino?

I could see the intercessors primarily deploying in Grav-Rhinos but the Interceptors and Hellblasters probably deploy out of the Grav-Razorbacks

>>54176316
Tfw in the same boat as you, only have two flyrants because footslogging melee wasnt fast enough

>>54176366
>Interceptors
It's inceptors, i don't even like the fucking things but this one thing makes me autistically angery, probably something to do with waacfags calling my swarmlord a stormlord too many times

>>54176232
deathwatch is limited as usual, but i got my ass beat by them last week as i got baited or rather outplayed by 2 rhinos in the way of my seekers then he whittled me down at range

>>54176329

>implying anyone gives a shit about White Scars, Iron Hands, Raven Guard, or Iron Fists

Hell the successor fist chapters are more interesting than regular fists. Plus of course all the original Fists are extinct.

Which raises the question: Are Primaris Fists actually closer to Dorn than marinelet Fists?

>>54176408

Meant imperial fists obviously. Haha I even forgot the Salamanders which shows how forgetable that faction is.

>>54175426
Ynarri technically never had a codex, so they will be one of them.

Farsight enclaves seem likely to get their own codex.

Did the fallen ever have a codex in any of the older editions? They seem like a good candidate, since they have a couple of units already.

Absolutely guaranteed that they will have a codex for one of the first-founding chapters they haven't done before. Probably not imperial fists because while they are popular they are pretty codex-compliant. Not sure how much of a factor the primarchs returning is; on the one hand, they might want to promote a chapter which is eventually going to get their primarch, on the other, they might prefer to wait until they are ready to release the primarch before giving them a codex release. I'm pretty sure Russ and the Lion are going to be the next two loyalist primarchs with Vulcan possibly after them.

Maybe one of the new ultima founding chapters will get their own book to really emphasise that primaris are the new protagonists.

>>54176274

It's older fluff. Farsight was a mystery until the Farsight Supplement. During the Damocles Crusade, he expressed some curiosity about these Space Marines, and investigated them on his own time.

The Tau don't fire on medics, at least during Damocles, but Farsight dropped in on an Apothecary and pretty much interrogated the guy, or at least asked him a few questions before satisfying his curiosity and jetting off. In that instance or another, he found a copy of the Codex Astartes that had been carried into battle, and decided to do a little light reading to catch up on the enemy's playbook. Over time, he's added observations to the margins and built his own strategy book, although it's more about countering Imperium strategy. He's made a few copies which he gives to his most trusted commanders when they fight the Imperium.

>>54176251
Well that's not a problem. I'm not great at tactical play or anything, but listening to pros, reading up, and learning from losses/victories are what helped me a lot. Use what works, scrap what doesn't. You just gotta remember it's a skill, not a talent. It takes time and effort

Big things I've found:
>listbuilding (good units obviously, but consider # of units and who will DS so you can capitalize on a strong opening)
>buffs (paladin ancients are godly, keep them near big units to stack pain.
>positioning (am I at risk of charge/consolidation, are my characters too close, is cover alright, etc.)
>target priority (ill shoot at the daemon prince first, horrors later)
>weapon v unit (storm bolters are good for horrors n basic shit, psycannons are better for tougher enemies
>weapons in general (falchions are awesome, staves are bad, swords are meh and halberds are nice.
>unit engagement (stay out of CQC with daemonettes and shoot them)
>unit aptitude (I'll leave the daemon prince to the Paladins, my strike squad will deal with the bloodletters)
That's all I can think of now, watch some batreps to see more- Frontline, regardless of lists, know good tactical engagement, whereas MWG is just shit (at everything)

End of the day, experience is the best teacher, so go play more games. 8th is rough if you don't know how to do it right

>>54176316
I mean, it's different for everyone. I'm in a cutthroat meta where windriders and riptides lived on almost every table, so it wasn't easy.

Good against non-Waac marines and monsters, though

>>54176462

Farsight is likely to end up as a faction within the Tau Codex. As mentioned in their own book, Farsight has the <Farsight Enclaves> Keyword for the <Sept>, and it's likely to be a collection of relics, warlord traits, and a few unique stratagems like the rest of the book.

>>54176467
i feel like that's either a cop out or the codex astartes is too simple

>if fighting enemies with guns, charge them. if fighting enemies with swords, shoot them.
>geek the mage first
>rule #349272 after defeating the orks burn the bodies, burn the lands they were near and put down mulch. beware of orks popping up next year

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Question: Can Primaris marines be transported in anything??

>pic not related

>>54176531
Thunderhawk?

>>54176531

They can be carried in like 2 of the FW flyers but otherwise nothing. Not even drop pods

>>54176454
>Just stopped Angron being summoned to Armageddon
>Forgettable
Pick one.

>>54176507
>8th is rough
It sure is. I had a 4 man paladin squad armed with Falchions and buffed by an Ancient's banner get SLAUGHTERED by a single Shadowseer while doing no wounds to it. Harleys definitely feel like a more well rounded Elite army, whereas GK have always felt like Marines+ with a third of the models. I usually stick to Tabletop Tactics and Winters SEO, I actually got the idea for a Knight from Winter's SEO video where he did GK vs Admech and the Knight took all but one hullpoint in the first turn and kept chugging ALL GAME LONG.

>>54176531
>>54176540
>>54176549
>Cawl created such profound abominations that the Priests of Mars raised the hand of every vehicle in the Imperium against them and blacklisted them for life

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>>54176531
The new codex will probably have this.

>>54176467
>a copy of the Codex Astartes
>carried into battle

Words cannot describe what a truely epic opsec fail that is.

>>54176528

Well the Codex Astartes is also a collection of Chapter organization, which is simply interesting, but then it also gets into specific formations (STEEHL RHEN), organizations and suggested troop limits, grand strategies (from covert-ops to siege warfare to mechanized combat), philosophies and thoughts on waging war with Imperium technology... It's Zapp Brannigan's "Big Book of War" for the Space Marines. When you have a command of High Gothic and a first-hand education in Imperium technology (from having fought against most of it) and are a good strategist with a knack for creative thinking, you can glean some good info from the enemy's book on strategy.

Albeit, it's not going to help as much against some enemies. Astartes who don't follow the Codex would be harder to pin down, as would other, more bizarre enemies like the AdMech and their treasure trove of strange weapons.

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>>54174627
>>54175315
>discord

The actual discord is discord.gg/VcZNNd4 for whoever makes the next general

>>54176585

Hopefully it has weapon load-out options

>3 Lascannons
>Heavy Stubber
>Assault Cannon
>Some sort of point defense missiles

Lascannons are decent but one assault cannon and a heavy stubber are kinda meh for killing infantry

I have Roboute and primaris marines from the starter box. I can't pick a paint scheme. I don't want to paint them blue and be trapped with ultra marines. I might like a model from another chapter I want to add, when I don't field Bobby G.

I have a game next weekend. I would like to have them at least base coated.
Any suggestions?

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How long do you reckon until we see proper multi-part kits of Primaris marines?

Would like to do some shoulder pad swaps the easy way

Do you guys think 45 Kommandos and 30 boyz in charge range on first turn cancerous, or just right proppa orky?

>>54176598

Codex astartes is hardly secret knowledge. it's like the Art of War but 10,000 years old and written for a completely different Imperium than the current one.

>>54176507
>>54176577
Noticing a bunch of GK players in the chat.
Whats your opinion of Terminators vs Paladins? Because I can't really find any reasons to field Terminators over paladins, since terminators got a huge price hike, while paladins stayed the same but got buffed crazy.
Also, psilencers or psycannons? Psycannons, interestingly enough, seem to be underperforming for me, while psilencers have been working pretty well due to the combination of d3 damage, the new to wound table and being pretty damn cheap.

>>54176687
Spray them grey and wash them black. Add silver bits.

>yer dun

>>54176598

Well, they carry fucking litanies and shit into battle. Also consider who would even bother to read such a book:

>CSM
Already know it, and probably don't care
>Orks
>Reading books
>Necrons
>Caring what these primitives scrawl onto vellum
>Eldar
>Caring about ignorant mon'keigh books
>Tyranids
SCREEEEE

And everyone else tends to be either unable to read it or doesn't care, or doesn't care even if they could read it. Tau seem to be the only ones who'd glean anything from reading it, and even then only Farsight actually cared.

>>54176696
You take Paladins, unless you need troop terminators for some dumb reason?

>>54176169
A guy that asked about how good the sentinels are in 8th a weeks ago, and he said there was a cute trans in his FLGS

>>54176690

45 Blood Axes is kind of sneaky gitz instead of propa orky. Hopefully you have plenty of regular slugga and shoota Goffs and some Evil Suns in Trukks

>>54174842

They get a seal every decade they go without letting an eldar wench sully their virginity.

That's why Guilliman doesn't have many.

>>54176734
Oi, I actually meant to say 105 boyz, I fergot I was takin' two weirdboyz!

>>54176233
Base with Zandri Dust. Thin highlight with Screaming Skull. Multiple layers of Biel Tan Green. Light wash of Wazdakka Red (or pretty much any red really) for the mouth, eyes and nostrils. Pick out the teeth with Zandri Dust and highlight with Screaming Skull.

>>54176585
It looks like a souped-up toboggan.

>>54176687
pick one of the dozens of ultramarine's successor chapters

>>54176722
If I wanted troops, I'd just take strike squads. Cheaper, similiar damage output, but lower durability, but cheaper. Also, more flexible because I can give them razorbacks. And honestly, the battalion detatchement tax of 3 troops and 2 hqs for 2 command points more than the vanguard detatchment isn't really worth it imho.

>>54176733
Good. I hope he hits that.

>>54176134
No wait why the smoke

>>54176759

Dats more orky m8. Hopefully with that many blood axes you have a battlewagon or two built off of a Imperial Guard conversion or two.

>>54176688
Never, they are the starter army for kids and noobs to break their teeth on while not getting btfo on the table.

>>54176467
>>54176528
>>54176598
>>54176693
Didn't he pretty much write a non-codex astartes by observing the battle against Space Marines, first?

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So I was originally thinking of Swarmlord and some Tyrant guard to keep him safe. But that seems so damn expensive (points wise).

Should I instead build flyrants and hive guard? I can't decide, sitting here staring at sprues ....

>>54176696
According to chart-anons math, psilencers are better than psycannons against vehicles, nearly the same against terminators and other multi-wound heavy infantry, while psycannons are better against t3 and t4 1 wound dudes

for their price i'd usually go with psilencers

paladins pay 9 points for 1 wound and 1 attack (except the unit champ) over terminators is a good deal in most cases. if you need troops, take strike squads. theyre good.

Greetings /40kg/

I am just getting into 40k and I love the orks. I also love the super big stompa that they have. My local store has about 4 of them on display and they look super awesome and huge in display.

My question is, is it viable to bring a stompa in a regular game? I am sort of looking towards getting one and running it alongside a bunch of boyz but I was told that it's 900 points so that would make up nearly half my army!

Thanks a bunch!

>>54176785
I think its the toxic spores like the venomthropes.
Never really understood why venomthropes had the job of "spew toxic tyrannoforming viruses and spores" when most tyranids had these carapace chimmneys anyway.

>>54176793

Might have been. I should dig up a Farsight Supplement so I can source this shit and not talk from my butthole.

>>54176690
Rought und proppa. Remember, Gork and Mork say ta be Brutal AND Kunning.

>>54176793

mirrordex?

>>54176812

sure,
heads up, play against Imperial Guard and Tyranids for easy wins

>>54176668
Its turret lascannon is an special one.

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>>54176688
They aren't doing the old style kits any more. Fixed pose with exactly zero wargear choices are the future.

>>54176392
Incestors.

>>54176847
Probably anti-air.

>>54176812
most games are 1000-2000 points, so it'll be most of your army.
It's not terrible, but your games will pretty much go:
can my opponent kill the stompa before I kill the things that can really harm it? If yes, I probably lose, if no, then I probably win.

>>54176687

Nova Marines actually have a decent and not completely boring paint scheme.

Aurora Chapter and genesis chapter aren't awful but free-handing their chapter icon sucks

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Why aren't there any suicide bomber cultists? That would be the coolest shit fluff wise. Guys so fucking afraid of their CSM masters that they are strapped with a fucking land mine and told to charge into the enemy emplacements to break their lines.

>>54176812
The stompa is probably the worst unit in the game at the moment. Horribly weak for it's points cost. It's a nice kit for the money though.

>>54176847
Looks a lot like a Las-Talon

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>>54176856
>b-but brother Marcus! The codex astartes does not support this action!
>As warriors of the Emperor, we mustn't indulge ourselves in the pleasure of the flesh!
>Oh shut up Flavius, and get on your knees, you dirty little marinelet.
>I'm going to make you my bitch
S Q U A D B R O K E N
Q
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A
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B
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>>54176810
Swarmlord goes in a tyrannocyte and is a first turn charge bomb.

>>54176706
I could add some yellow and black striping and ally them with my artillery IG too! Then I could add in chaos stuff later, if I wanted.

>>54176785
Because once upon a time tyranids had carapace biomorph options.

Which obviously got removed because tyranids aren't allowed wargear.

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>>54176793
>>54176833

Alright, here's what I found. Going back through that section, it looks like he doesn't get his hands on an Imperial copy, he just tries to unravel the patterns of the Codex the Space Marines used, and THAT makes the Mirrorcodex.

>>54176847
Right, it increases accuracy for the lascannon right? Hit with the stubber, reroll misses or something.

>>54176829
I am baffled

>>54176783
Which weapons do you typically bring on your Strike Squads?

tell me about dreadnoughts and terminators

>>54176812

Stompa is a fun model and is awesome to customize so it's worthwhile for a collection but as others have said strictly speaking it's not the greatest.

Keep in mind that you could field a Morkanaut, gorkanaut and like 3 deff dreds for the equivalent point value.

Yeah the Stompa has a lot of wounds but if people know you use one a lot they will load up on melta-weapon squads and all sorts of Anti-armor artillery/tanks

>>54176688
Look at Age of Sigmar release schedules, they're doing the same strategy for 8th as they did for Age of Sigmar's starter kits.

>>54176964
I only remember that somoene said it was a new type of lascannon.

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How is Yarrick these days in 8th? I feel left out of the fun by not having a big hero dude who can punch people in the face like other armies. I understand he used to be quite the mother-fucker.

>>54176759
You can only jump once a turn in matched.

I have the Chaos sides for both Dark Vengeance and Dark Imperium. What should I use from these sets, and what should I add, to make a good list?

>>54176943
And then gets shot to pieces on my opponents next turn? He maybe deletes one threat and then dead? What good is that?

Genestealer Cult Fag here again. Is this a viable anti-tank option?

Neophytes x 10 in a Goliath Truck with Demo Charges
Mining Laser x 2

Figure that's 20" threat range for D6 Demo Charges--once the vehicle blows, I have two las cannon shots on the ground

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>>54174842
because you want to have only the best in your army

>>54176973
Been playing them with halberds, since thats how I modeled them up. Definently use falchions if you can though, those are amazing and give them a much needed boost in cc that +1S just doesn't deliver.
Been giving them incinerators alongside their stormbolters. I through them in razorbacks, which give them the mobility they need to use the incinerators.
I'm gonna try a 10 man unit/ 2 5-man units with incinerators and falchions riding in a land raider crusader tomorrow. I want to see if I can cover my anti-horde with that as a unit.
>2 smites

>24 Hurricane bolter shots
>32 Storm bolter shots
>2d6 Incinerator hits
>12 Assault cannon shots

>Land raider tanks overwatch (if needed)
>mortal wounds from frag launchers
>followed up by 16 falchion attacks
>justicars get 4 hammer attacks for threat capability and flexibility
All that for just under 550 points

>>54176960
thanks what did it do?

>>54177050
Count the cultist as poxwalkers. run LoC as Typhus.

>>54177071

Are you talking light tanks like Lemans and Predators or Heavy Tanks like the Land Raider and FW superheavies? It seems like you'll be okay vs lighter tanks but Super heavies or massed Imperial Guard tank formations are going to suck to fight

>>54177041
Even with two Weirdboyz?

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>>54176233
This skin is done with 4 colors
Waaagh Flesh
Bieltan wash
Goblin Green (Vallejo)
Escapardo Green (Vallejo)

You can easily drop the last color btw

>>54177121
Matched play only allows each psychic power other than smite to be attempted once per turn, regardeless of any psykers.

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Just getting into 40k. I wanted to start a Black Templars army.

Games Workshop is not selling HM Halbrecht, Emperor's Champion, or Chaplain Grimaldus online right now.

Are these really old models and not likely to be restocked? Do I really have to stalk ebay to buy a $100 single model from Poland that some retard with no thumbs painted bright yellow?

Also where can I find transfer sheets?

>>54176649
I'm pretty sure you belong on the one in the OP.

>>54174933
Draigo won't let anyone else use them.

>>54177116

Light tanks

I'm also taking Heavy Rock Saws x 4 in 20 man Hybrid Squads for more hitting power.

Not sure what to do against IG tank spam and super heavies :(

>>54177116
You buttmunch. A Leman IS a Heavy Tank. Dont compare our glorious tank-fu to a Predator

>>54176839
>>54176874
>>54176904
>>54176999
Thanks for the advice!

>>54177129
>>54177139
Then I'll buff a unit with Warpath and send em into combat with Da Jump!

>>54177183

Honestly I think GSC aren't really supposed to be viable against massed tank formations and superheavies. They are supposed to guerilla warware and urban fight.

So if you have a lot of cityfight terrain that allows the Genestealers to get close you might be able to do okay but clear sightlines are going to fuck you up bad vs tank spam

>>54177141
>Games Workshop is not selling HM Halbrecht, Emperor's Champion, or Chaplain Grimaldus online right now.

Who knows whats gonna happen to them, if you want transfer sheets then the conversion kit has one I believe. Its a very old kit so the chest pieces and tabards require bit of work but everything else is ok.

>>54177141
They're probably being reboxed, transfer sheets? I dunno man, only the big 4 are getting them now, it seems.

>>54177141
Make your own Helbrecht and Grimaldus. You can use bits from the tactical kit, the assault kit, sternguard kit, vanguard kit, and even the command kit, since both helbrecht and grimaldus just wear power armor.
Slap on some bits from the black templar conversion set. That thing is your lifeblood. Just give them the weapons they should be equipped with (helbrecht: combimelta, powersword, bolt pistol; grimaldus: plasma pistol, crozius arcanum).

Black templar are the modelers space marine army. If I had the time and money, I'd start a black templar army with the sole purpose of kitbashing a land raider with a cathedral on top.

>>54175963
How do they do those bases? Is their a duncan tutorial out there? I hope so.

>>54175036
Eurofag time
>Gay daydreaming about Eldar cocksuck
>Superiority complex
>Love of importing xeno dick to satisfy wife
>Typical chaos susceptibility arising from self esteem issues.
>Anger that codex is written in superior Anglo dialect

>>54177231
So GSC lose to orks?

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I need a bit of help with the rules for building a guard force. I want to go for an Inquisitor + valkyries + vendettas and about 4 squads of tempestus storm troopers + scion. Would that all be in the same detatchment or do I have to do multiples as they were formerly in different codices? Keyword stuff confuddles me.

>>54177035
Straken with Nork is a strong ass combo. Yarrick is great. Have all 3 and add in some Bullgryn and a Priest and you will beat down things.

>>54177290

+assassin, not scion, sorry.

>>54177211

I think of Macharius and Malcador as being the Heavy tanks of the Imp Guards. Yes the Russ is the MBT but it's like T34 - simple cheap and easy to field dozens of them.

Individually they are nothing special but throw 3-5 of them and they can overwhelm superior CSM MBTs

>>54177323
Can Nork conceivably punch-kill Carnifex and/OR Trigon going for my Artillery? I do have one last unassembled Ogryn I can make into Nork

>>54177290
Yeah I got confused too I think you can take whatever in the same detachment?

>>54174842
None Purer

When do we think those 4 Easy to Build kits (Intercessors, Reivers, Plague Marines, Poxwalkers) are gonna get released?

>>54177231

Well, I can take an AM detachment with my own superheavy/leman russ if I want

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>>54175298
>Tau think he can stop us

>>54175397
>Dark Eldar
>I don't exist
I've had my dark eldar since the 90's and i haven't played a game of 40k since 6th ed...holy shit it's accurate

>>54177290
As long as they have a common faction keyword its all good for now, codices may have more restrictions or bonuses.

>>54177343
He can do decent damage. S5 -1ap D2 and 4 attacks. He can also do a S8 head butt that's -2ap and D3 damage. Best thing is that he has 2+ look out sir rule for characters for Guard. So him with Yarrick can beat things hard.

>>54175078
Same time aussies get off work is late US time and we both speak english....It overlaps because Aussies have no one else to talk to and get on interwebs a bit earlier as a result.

>>54177398
Man I can't get over how this seemingly ultra important dude got jobbed like a fucking bitch by a nameless assassin, holy hell.

>>54176467
I'm a bit curious.
The Tau don't fire on medics.
.. but they also don't HAVE medics.

>>54177271

Orkz that try to be Imperial Guard probably.

Proppa orkz getting killy with their shootas and sluggas would be a fun match.

Lots of Deff Dreds and Killa Kans and the big stuff gets a bit sketchy for Genestealer Cult Armies.

But seriously who only has a GSC army and not GSC and Nids.

>>54177434
>tau in melee
It's accurate at least.

You fags got me with that discord server joke

I'm lonely too =(

>>54175036
this is pure bullshit, ive been up all last week working graveyard, and all 40kg was about was tranny and anti tranny posting. then some guy posting pictures of yawning cats

>>54177434

The assassins might be nameless but they are supposed to be about as deadly as humans can get.

Although no idea why the Imperium would use a Culexus against Tau.

>>54177290
>Keyword system introduced to make the game more accessible and easier to understand
>People are still confused by it

How low must GW go ?

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Are all marines going to be intercessors in a few years? Is there even a point to collecting "standard" marines anymore?

>>54177483

That was probably all they had on hand.

>>54177483
I think the Culexus was fielded because of speculation that the Etheral's 'mind control' over other Tau might be of a psychic nature.

>>54177438

They probably have medics, but they just don't have them on the tabletop. Imperial Guard probably has them as well, but outside a few select rules and models they used to have. Even so, they'd probably recognize medics if they saw them.

Tabletop-wise, it wouldn't make much sense to try and conserve numbers when bodies are cheap. 4 or 5 ppm cheap. It makes more sense in more elite factions where you need to save models. Though we do find a few examples of them in less elite but still above average/cannon fodder level like Tempestus Scions and Sororitas.

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since its confirmed that marines are the first codex release, what do you think books 2-4 will be?

>>54177505

For now, standard Astartes are better. It will be years before the Primaris product line reaches the status of a "complete" catalog.

>>54176719
>Already know it, and probably don't care

Many Chaos Lords actively seek out copies of the Codex, because it's basically a playbook of how their most hated foe operates in the galaxy, and the knowledge within enables them to better counter loyalists.

Furthermore, most copies of the Codex are not complete, or are listed in multiple volumes, which makes complete copies extremely rare. I think Abaddon is one of the few people in the galaxy that has a complete copy of the Codex, the others being a few Chapter Masters and the Inquisition and a few other random organizations.

>>54177535
It's already been announced; GK, DG and CSM

>>54177438

I remember what he is talking about. Some unnamed dude holds an apoth at gunpoint while watching seed extraction

>>54177434

Funny considering how salty people were the assassins didn't solo everything

>>54176854
are you retarded?

>>54177505
No lol intercessors are trash

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>>54177434
>old man with s2, no armor, i1, 1 attack

i'll bite. that's a super assassin. i believe a culexus even managed to do the same thing to a chaos lord surrounded by all his guys and you bet your ass he had daemons or psykers nearby. the motherfucker cloaked himself to get that close. by the time he was within 18" feet it was over for aun'va. even if aun'va died like a bitch in a horror movie, running away and stumbling over himself. what makes it worse is the death of aun'va means nothing since they have a hologram to fool the public

>>54177505
We Just Don't Know

GW did promise that oldmarines are still getting releases at a future date during a live Q&A I think, though nothing is currently planned.
Personally don't care because I have enough marines and won't have to buy new stuff anyway.

>>54177505
Few years is long time anon and intercessor is fucking useless.

Is it just me or has massed infantry guard and even rough riders gone from being one of the absolute worst things you could take, to incredibly powerful.

>>54177543
Yah ... I know it's years away. But when the new models start to show up it's really difficult to wrap my head around buying the old stuff that has one foot out the door...

>>54177545

Considering that many are turned heretics, and that all Marine Chapters need a copy so that they can conform to its doctrines, I'd be surprised there aren't more floating around.

>>54177535
Who gives a roight zog about sum bookz, whenz we gettin' new Ork models, eh?

>>54177379
>Easy to Build kits
just read about these. When they say colored plastic, does that mean they are already ultramarine colors?

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>>54175983
>>54176049

>>54177546
is that on their FB or something? 4 marine books in a row? i need my ork book though

>>54177572

You won't win most games with just the new models. You won't win most games for years. If that doesn't dissuade you, go ahead and buy 6 sprues of Primaris like me.

>>54177590
Probably just blue

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A T'au character asked a human a good question. Paraphrasing, he asked when did humans give up on humanity? What was the moment when they all decided to abandon their compassion and goodwill for each other and everyone around them. How did things come to this?

Of course, the character got no answer from the human. But do you have any answers for this, teegee?

>>54174933
They're not in the kit.

>>54177483
The used a Culexus because nobody knows how Etherals operate, and they figured send the "fuck anything with a soul" assassin on the off chance it they might be psychic.

Spoiler: They're not psychic, but they are still vulnerable to mind-bullets of weaponized hate.

>>54177590
Just the Ultramarine Blue. The Death Guard models will probably be Death Guard Green.

>>54177379
This month
According to independent retailer new skew listings

>>54177568
Guess you've never seen a Conscript blob tear a Wraithknight with Misfortune cast on it to shreds in one round of combat during 7th.

They weren't the worst, just hard to play right and more expensive than 5 Riptides due to the sheer amount of models. Our local IG player never lost a game against Eldar.

>>54177568
It's not just you. Massed bodies is the way to go right now

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So Guard players, what's the verdict on Valks? Worth taking? Are Vendettas/other flyers better?

On a side note, I'm REALLY dissapointed FW nerfed the Cyclops Demo. It really didn't need the nerfs. It seems like FW cut most of the crews from their vehicles. It looks like they're making it so when you buy one of their models, that's what is in the codex. No more extra crews and such.

>>54177568
Its just you. Nobody else has ever thought this since 8th hit. Ever

>>54177628
When humanity realized that the galaxy is fucked up

>>54177562
I wonder if making their guns rapid 2 would help?

>>54177607
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/your-codex-is-coming-july-5gw-homepage-post-1/

>>54177610

Chad Marines foot slogging is going to get beat up on by most armies other that stuff like Plague marines who are likely also footslogging.

Hopefully the Primaris get some decent transports in addition to the grav tank because right now they are typically going to get wrecked by most balanced armies.

>>54177616
Just blue/green plastic, the same way GW has been making red Blood Angel scouts and Purple Genestealers

>>54177635
Thanks. I'm giving away one of the boxes (winner's choice) on youtube if anyone's interested in free toys.

>>54177628
Needs must when everyone wants to kill you.