/40kg/ Warhammer 40k General

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1st for CUTEDAR

>>54171687
>Their job is shooting things with shoulder-mounted missile launchers and wrist-mounted flamers.

So Assault Centurions minus the drills and with Shoulder Rockets instead of Nipple Rockets (if Assault Centurions could have taken Centurion Missile Launchers.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/04/forge-world-unit-focus-the-stone-crusher-carnifex/

GW took down the stone crusher unit focus article that said they get buffed by old one eye and that old one eye buffs all carnifexes.

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>>54171664
REEEEE! THAT'S NOT THE NAME!

>>54171674
Thanks lad! Devestators coming out any time soon, Primaris ones that is? These Aggressors are basically gun platform tanks.

>>54171679
>>54171687
Wait, are there models and rules of them already?

>>54171727
Is it cute for them to choke each other out?

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does anyone know of a site for 40k ebooks that works on a kindle?
i wanna read what muh boi cain is up to while on a flight home

>>54171742
In the Community Focuses they also mentioned you still got to move for failed Charges and you could still Go To Ground.

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What's the best unit for the Orkanauts to disgorge? Tankbustas? Burnaboyz? Nobz??

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Reminder that Regimental Doctrines will return with the new Imperial Guard codex.

>>54171776
amazon

>>54171739

Depends on how close to Cyclones the Agressors are.

If they are full on Terminator replacements with long range dakka and short range flamers they could be an awesome unit.

>>54171786
Unironically it might be nobz now

>>54171786
Nobz can work, I usually want them to keep the boyz in line.

That or stuff it with burna boyz with a spanner to make repairs until they get tossed out.

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>>54171774
Yes!

>>54171799
nice try retard
you can't buy a ciaphas cain book on amazon for kindle, I'm asking for a place with the right format for me to do it manually
id gladly pay if i could

>>54171793
They would boost firing efficiency if they provided all gun crew with good sound suppressing earmuffs with built in radios.

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>>54171727
One thing that always bother me is if Barons waifu got killed for entering Commorragh while being a Psyker and the only Pskykers they don't kill on sights are Shadowseers, how the fuck did Yvraine get in despite walking down the path of the Seer even if it wasn't for very long?

OVERLORD RELEASE WHEN?

>>54171774
For Dark Eldar a chokehold is basically a cuddle.

>>54171763

Fulmentarus Terminators are pretty cool desu. Kind of Cyclone in them but also cataphracti sculpting goodness

Anyone else taking the FAQ's 'major factions will get a codex' and 'most ranges will be updated' to mean sisters are literally never getting an update?

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Anyone have more Imperial Documents like pic related? Might use them as posters on terrain, also they're just neato

>>54171885
Yes.

>>54171776
www.blacklibrary.com

>>54171844
Do they kill psykers on sight? I thought they killed them if they used warp fuckery.

Also, how would they know she was a psyker anyways?

>>54171831
No idea where you can buy them then. It seems odd that they wouldn't have digital editions of one of their best works up.

>>54171764

Hellblasters appear to be the Primaris Devastators. Their new kit has weapon cables and bigger backpacks. They felt more like command squads to me since the plasma gun they have isn't a long range heavy weapon.

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>>54171872
Perfect son perfect weapon

>>54171838

I'd be shocked if generic CSMs don't get some Primaris scale Terminators and Marines sometime soon. No way will they squat the Black Legion since Abaddon is their favorite metaplot tool.

>>54171885
Maybe. Would be a real dick move by GW considering they've been teasing SoB fans since Celestine came out.

>>54171915
Yeah to me they felt like fire support since they're described as a 'medium compromise' and the Captain Felix in Dark Imperium says he wishes he had Tactical Squads with Heavy Weapons. So this, to me, implies there will be heavy weapon Primaris Marines eventually. Since Hellblasters are medium.

But the Aggressors are basically tank vanguards?

>>54171904
Wax seals and parchment paper are the worst part of the 40k aesthetic.

>>54171946
Consider that they couldn't even be bothered to give veridyan 8th edition rules.

>>54171904
Holy shit, the Emperor is a moron. You don't cap off a massive reformation effort by giving a fucking furry complete freedom to ignore the laws of the land in a manhunt. Did the emperor seriously never take a political science or history class in his lifetime?

>>54171774
Chocking each other is like rape in Japan. It is a way to say hello

>>54171932
Uh huh, sure. Not like Abaddon is going to be increasingly irrelevant and pushed to the wayside as more and more fuckhuge Daemon Primarch models with their own Legion codexes come out like Mortarion and the Death Guard.

Tried an experimental addition to the Durability vs Guardsmen page; a table which calculates the average number of lasgun shots needed to kill a given model, and the resulting efficiency of points you pay to tank each shot. For now I just tossed in some random units, but I'm considering it as a future project once most of the damage+damage efficiency calculations are done to add onto those bottom tables efficiencies of each setup for durability. You can already see that most units are right around 0.6 pts per lasgun shot, with certain units being substantially better (either cheap chumps, or super-expensive heavies), and then wargear-overloaded things like the Fusion Quadmander is relatively fragile for its cost, due to the amount of points it spends on weapons. Is this the sort of thing others would find interesting in the future? And are there any other durability calcs for individual units people would like me to slap up there?

Hoping to get CSM cost-calcs done this evening, tomorrow at the latest.

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>>54171904
If you buy a Warlord Titan they give you a fancy one

>>54171967
I'm going to use the index rules for ever.
Hell I might even make up rules for SoB since no one cares if they have rules or not.

>>54171968
It was edited by Horus. Emperor wanted Magnus captured and brought back for Punishment. Horus edited it.

>>54171985
Abaddon will be killed by Cypher on Terra as a proof of loyalty and will be reborn as a Primarch level guy via Warp powers. Abaddon will accept the changes out of pure rage.

>>54171904
"It is hereby decreed that Magnus... be bought forth..."
We're buying Magnus? How much does he cost?

Do we have any idea how long the period between codex releases will be? I know 4 flavors of space marine will be released first, what comes next? 4 more power armors?

>>54172016
They've promised us 10 codexes by christmas. Odds are it's 10 flavors of space fag, since that's largely a copy/paste job.

>>54172016
4 more flavours of space marine. This is age of marines.

>>54171985

Abaddon needs a new sculpt and they can always give him a Guiliman scale sculpt. That way you can field a stout as fuck CSM Special Character without having to pull out one of the 4 lazy as fuck daemon primarchs.

Besides can you really imagine using someone like a Bloodthirster Angron in 1500-2000 point games?

>>54172016
The announcement stated that there will be ten codices out by Christmas, and it'll take about a year for the entire set of codices to release. You can do some ballpark estimations there, though your numbers will depend on the number of codices you think will be released (Are we getting codices for Emperor's Children? What about various Imperial Agents? etc. etc.).

>>54172015
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Magnus-the-Red-Primarch-of-the-Thousand-Sons-Legion-2017

£80

>>54172015
>GW doesn't make typo errors

Shit is regular as clockwork.

>>54172005
But did Horus add the part about ignoring all laws?

>>54171964
>I hate 40k
Want more generic and iPod looking sci-fi looking stuff? Play infinity or Primaris Marines

>>54171932
God damn it I hope they reveal something soon then since I'm very close to just converting some CSM

>>54171988
>Retard Certificate for actually buying that overpriced poisonous action figure

>>54172062
>Primaris Marines
Oh fuck right off. They're slightly different Space Marines.

>>54172077
>certificate of retardation
I laughed

>>54171988
What do they give you if you get the Chaos version?

>>54171967
>yfw imperial space marine got 8E rules but Verinyan didnt

>>54172077
Jelly poorfag detected.

>>54172069
Don't convert, don't buy. Be patient and watch new developments. It's what I'm doing right now, because as it turns out, regular CSM are manlets even compared to the new Plague Marines. As in, the Plague Marines are taller without a base than a regular CSM with a base.

>>54172117
Well, the first thing people I know said when they really ordered a Warlord was "Where did it go wrong in my life that I'm doing this ?" so it's fitting.

>>54171885

So some factions dont get a codex?
I wonder which
And a range update? Nah not unless you're marinez

>>54172149
there is no chaos version of the warlord

>>54172153
Nothing to do with jealousy. I play a miniature tabletop game. I particularly enjoy skirmish-level game sizes. And the Warlord Titan, being about half the size of my Weimaraner, simply doesn't count as a "miniature" to me.

Talked to GW today on phone about order. I asked if they were still casting Sisters items or was items on the website just old stock.

Still casting. In fact more items next month.

Needless to say, they're aware of our plastic sister needs... but until those models? They will keep casting old ones.

TLDR: The myth of 'until out of stock' is not true.

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The hell is it?

>>54172016
They said around 10 Codexes by Christmas. That's a period of 5 months, so we can assume something like 2 per month.

They won't want to void the usefulness of any of their Indexes too quickly, so you can be sure that out of each Index there will be one major popular faction that isn't updated for a long time.

GW has said in the past that they plan to focus on updating armies that have been waiting the longest first, so with Chaos Marines and Grey Knights out of the way that leaves:
>Chaos Daemons
>Sisters of Battle
>Tyranids
>Astra Militarum
In that order as the next ones.

However, Chaos Daemons will almost certainly be left hanging for quite awhile to preserve the longevity of the Chaos Index, so we can skip them.

Sisters is a crapshoot, maybe they'll finally get their update, most likely they won't since we would have had leaks about model releases by now if that were the case and they're not going to update their rules without a new plastic model line.

That means Tyranids and Astra Militarum are almost certain to be next, followed by Orks, Drukhari and either Space Wolves or Blood Angels in some order (but I doubt they'll release both close to each other).

However we also know they're trying to get Primarch releases out, and all signs point aggressively towards Lion El'jonson being the next one, so Dark Angels may not be too far off... unless! GW is still planning to do campaign books like Gathering Storm that will have rules for small model releases in the interim, in which case I can see Lion showing up in something like that.

>>54171857
>wychfu will never choke you out while holding your arms back and nibbling on your ear while muttering how adorable you are
Gay world this is.

>>54172186
1997 best year am I right?

>>54171824
>I usually want them to keep the boyz in line
That rule fucking sucks
>make repairs until they get tossed out
That doesn't work

>>54172186
Nah, new models for non-Marine armies, that hasn't happened in, like, forever. Oh, wait, no, Gathering Storm 2.

>>54172228
Age of Sigmar Deep Aelves.

>>54172228
Tyranopenis

>>54172226
How can a company be so incompetent?

>>54172223
SEETHING JELLY POORFAG

That's fine, anon. That's fine. I was only memeing.

>>54172226
We know. GW replace SoB minis when they go out of stock. Replacing minis is easy as fuck. The reason SoB are updated is because the INVESTMENT in MOULDS is vastly higher than their expected return. Unless GW believe SoB will sell as well as Blood Angels, they won't get new kits. The 2 minis we got were test runs.

>>54172249
So, Drow? I doubt it. I thought the female Stormcast were next?

>>54172231
>not getting new rules without new models
SoB have been getting "new" rules since 2nd without new models. Think the last new thing was in 2004.

>>54172228
You shouldn't dig around in your mother's drawers son.

>>54172228
I'm assuming its the tentacles of the new Nurgle Daemon Engine you can see being gunned down by Primaris Marines in the rulebook artwork.

Rather, I hope it is, because I sure as all fuck don't want to wait until after the Gay Knights got their codex to get some juicy new Nurgle stuff.

>>54172186
>the company doesn't waste time and money producing stuff that sells worse

Makes sense

>b-b-b-but marines only s-s-sell because they get so much support

Fuck off they wasted tons of money on DE plastics and box sets and they're still a rare army

>>54172263
Explain GSC, DE, Clowns, etc

We all know that GW thinks anything that isn't marine is high risk

>>54171739
i love how centurions are already going to be obsolute after only being introduced into the game a few years ago

>gw things

>>54172284
>b-b-b-but marines only s-s-sell because they get so much support
Nice strawman

>>54172223
>not waiting for FW to make an Emperor Titan for 40K then buying one and using it as your gaming table

>>54172263
>I thought the female Stormcast were next?
>falling for memes
Reliable rumourmongers have been saying for ages that Deep Aelves are next major new faction release for AoS. They're not quite Drow, they're like Deep Sea Mermaid Drow.

>>54172284
Isn't LotR basically a money sink?

>>54172269
That has nothing to do with anything as of 8th.

They have index rules right now as a hold-over until a codex, they're a minor faction, and are desperately in need of a model update, which will never be done without an accompanying Codex release, and they aren't going to give them a new Codex twice in a 2-3 year period.

>>54172284
Marines sell because they're the most reliable investment. If you buy a box of marine goodies, the odds are that between every chapter there is, there will be some overpowered ruleset to use your marines with and win you games.

If GW would support other armies with similarly exploitative rules and chapter/kabal/sept/tendril level tactics, the other armies would sell much better.

>>54172077
If that triggers you, google "titan owners club".

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>>54171727
Very a cute.

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>>54171786
a bunch of angry big meks with double kombi skorchas

>>54172327
much less than smoking

>>54172292
GSC were a small model range for an army to ally with Nids. DE was the last 'big' update and is fine in terms of popularity. Clowns were small.

SoB have plenty of models already and not replacing them 1:1 will be bad. I want them to be updated but they won't. GW can't be blind to see how well Verdyian sold. Because they combined three models into one box, nobody knows how many were bought because of Celestine.

>>54172327
No. They had a contract to fulfil with New Line Cinema. So they have to do this.

>>54172310
Huh. Sounds neat. I hope there are some cheesecakey minis :3

>>54172306
>Kill Team games on top of an Emperor Titan
>Fighting a guerilla campaign for control of your Cathedral on legs
Stop it, anon. I can only get so hard.

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Where do Primaris Marines fit in this composition of a chapter and companies? Did the Codex Astartes get a rewrite now that Guileman's awake?

Do new (Primaris) marine recruits still go through the process of being a scout, devastor, and Assault Marine before becoming a general tactical marine?

>>54172051
>>54172042
>>54172041
>>54172231

All helpful answers, and I kind of hope the Guard get updated sooner than later. I want to know if I still need to hold on to the index for a Mono-Scion build or if I can just run Scion w. Guard support. The Ratlings are really good and really cheap for a massed sniper unit that can move-shoot-move. Also tanks, glorious tanks.

>>54172337
This argument doesn't really work because Space Marines have rarely been top tier.

>>54172333
This is GW, strange things are common occurrence.

Hell the entire SoB is fucking strange. They keep making metal models for this one army from 1997

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>>54172352
C U T E
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>>54172384
is 1997 the new Buzzword, Gue'la ?

>>54172352
Want a girl to sit on my chest like that.

>>54172371
primaris company is the 11th company, in the ultramarines its of indeterminate size so far

robbys basically just thrown the codex out the window to make room for primaris

>>54172379
Maybe 7th has clouded my memory, but when haven't they been at least competitive?

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>>54172403

>>54171742
FW made the mistake most people did and assumed the main rules team had applied the use of keywords to denote the target of rules consistently because thats the actual purpose of keywords and there's no reason for them not to have done this. Unfortunately this isn't the case and in some instances have used unit names in place of keywords for essentially no reason so now there are some units that should logically buff several units but instead only buff a single specific unit and inherently cannot buff any others.

This is dumb as shit, but it's how it is. Without a totally arbitrary FAQ rulings saying what affects what, or errata actually changing the wording of the rules we are stuck with that garbage.

>>54172379
Except in the final days of 7th. Free fucking transports in "Take Transports or GTFO: The Edition" are hard to argue with.

>>54172327
It got to that point come the Hobbit.
Those movies are so bad they even made the game worse.

>>54172364
>GSC were a small model range for an army to ally with Nids.
That also re-used stock from TWO armies (nid genestealers and IG) and was pushed by the sale of a boxed game that was bundled with space marines, so people already had enough models that GW felt confident they would invest in expanding that force.

The GSC release was a perfect storm and a terrific business move, and it was also successful as hell.

>>54172364
They made a poll about the Celestine and company box.
Celestine was the main reason, the second far place was Cawl, almost no one got it for Gayfox

>>54172379
It means that marines are always in some way playbel. While shit like orks had been trash for so long that no one remembers the almost broken choppas from old

>>54172429

her face literally looks like a prolapsed anus that just pooped out Mrs Potato Heads lips.

>>54172429
Constant duck lips.

>>54172396
They should be killing him, not consoling him.
What Taushit is this?

>>54172421
They've never been trash but most of the editions before 7th they were mid-tier outside of specific mono-lists.

>>54172442
>GW will never update the sisters line by introducing a 3 player boardgame of Space Marines vs Sisters vs Chaos Sisters.

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>>54171904
Here's a blank template somebody made shortly after Inferno came out.

>>54172442

Sadly, there are very few GSC batreps outside of Miniwargaming vids and those dudes suck.

>>54172467
They're thinking about how much fun they're going to have raping him when they get him back home.

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>>54172409
>mfw BT and SW were right all along in shitting on the codex for the past 10,000 years

Codexfags and Leandros on suicide watch.

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>>54172429
>dsl
Umph.
>the warp overtaking the galaxy makes interspecies breeding possible now

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>>54172467
>not using him as a psychic conduit

>>54172476
>it is easier to list the non marine games
>even bloody assassins board game has marines in it
>there hasn't been a starter set for the edition without marines

I'd love to see one starter that doesn't have marines in it

>>54172421
Marines have always been mid-tier army, not great but not shit either.

>>54172302
>has never heard this on /tg/ before

Sup newfag

>implying there's a reason for marine exposure whining otherwise

Sup dumb and pointlessly whiny newfag

>>54172488
That's mainly a result of them being such a new and expensive army and the fact that their rules just got drastically changed (and in a lot of ways nerfed) with 8th.

People just haven't had enough time to build up the big model counts that GSC wants when they cost $40 for 5-model boxes of acolytes.

>>54172442
It bothers me that they actually made new purestrain sculpts, but never came out with a kit for them and they're only in Deathwatch Overkill and you only get 2.

>>54172515
An Orks vs Nids starter would be fantastic.

>>54172530
They'll probably release them in the Tyranid update.

>>54172489
>rape
These aren't dark eldar, they're not into bestiality. Just kill the mon'keigh and be done with it.

>>54172513
Humans can hardly point a stick much less help with the warp. He's better off as fertilizer for a maiden world.

>>54172525
Let's be honest here, most people who want huge numbers of Neophytes just convert some Cadians, right? Right?

>>54172515
Marines are fine in a starter, but holy shit 3 starter sets with two types of marines in it is awful. It gives the impression of a total lack of variety in the setting.

>>54171824
burnas, keeps the big fella from getting bogged down in a tarpit unit.

>>54172476
actually a sisters vs demons game would sell like HOT CAKES

would be a great way to get some gals into the game

>>54172575

>lets forge a compelling narrative about the battle for the soul of mankind and the fate of the galaxy

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54172575
It's not an inaccurate representation of what most games will be like though.

>>54172525
It is like marine players do not understand how easy and cheap it is to play marines of any kind.

For example SoB need $80 for 10 metal models from the online store only make it hard as ball to make an army of them

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>>54172575
Marines are always good target practice

As far as understrength units go with the FAQ, could I bring a Riptide unit, buy 2 Shielded Missile Drones, andbthen not pay points for or bring a Riptide with them? Essentially just get a pair of upgunned shield drones for 50 points?

>>54172533
>it's GW's first foray into home casting, with molds so you can represent the continuing escalation of the octarius war

If GW won't create plastics for a IG faction other than fucking Cadians and Catachan derp faces and they know that those sell why would they create a whole line of SoB plastics when they think Boys won't buy girls and those that do like SoB don't mind paying retard prices for the shitty pewter stock?

>>54172594
hmm make that Tyranids vs Sister, that would be irresistible to the female

>>54172595
So Inquisition vs cultist.

You know the guys that actually fight for the soul of mankind

>>54172530
Eh, the Space Hulk Genestealers were also never released as their own box and we still have those awful ancient sculpts to work with. By now I'm using the Attack on Macragge (or whatever the 4th Ed starter was called) snapfits and trying not to look at them.

>>54172564
>These aren't dark eldar, they're not into bestiality
You realize Dark Eldar are just Eldar that give in to the perverse urges that all Eldar are constantly feeling all the time?

The Craftworlders are just as dirty on the inside and spend all their time trying to control it through meditation and ritual and shit, but at any moment one of them could snap and give in.

>>54172429
Reminder that this is what Fishmen actually look like. Taulets, when will they learn?

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>>54172595
I'm still waiting for GW to deliver on this. 8 editions in, and I still see no compelling narrative about the battle for the soul of mankind.

Such a battle is impossible in the grimderp anyways, because it was lost thousands of years ago in setting, and now there is no soul of mankind. Only a bunch of ignorant assholes sacrificing every principle that would sustain such a soul in the name of survival.

>>54172525

That and the metamorph nerf happened. I'm sure to there's a bunch of people taking saws off acolytes.

>>54172621

you mean grey knights versus daemons

10/10 starter box idea by the way.

>>54172533

>include 2 horde armies in a boxed set

Top Kek

Enjoy your Loyalist vs Chaos boxed sets forever.

>>54172567
The Neophytes aren't the trouble.

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>>54172595
>compelling narrative
>the good guys are off way in the corner
Yes I'm talking about Tau. They are as clear cut good as the dark Eldar are pure fucking evil.

>>54172627
>Eldar that give in to the perverse urges that all Eldar are constantly feeling all the time?

>muh eldar urge to rape and torture

[Citation Needed]

>>54172595
>"The war is over, Diocletian. Win or lose, Horus has damned us all. Mankind will share in his ignorance until the last man or woman draws the species' last breath. The warp will forever be a cancer in the heart of all humans. The Imperium may last a hundred years, or a thousand, or ten thousand. But it will fall, Diocletian. It will fall. The shining path is lost to us. Now we rage against the dying of the light."
- The Emperor

>"The war is over. Humanity has lost. Warhammer 40k - in all its Gothic, towering, Cylopean, decrepit, doomed, rotting Byzantine majesty - has taken its first irrevocable step."
- ADB, BL Author

>imagine bothering to play as ANY faction other than Chaos

Why are you even bothering?

Why play a game where the setting ending is decided for you? Are you a bunch of cucks?

Rolling for which Imperial Legion I'll paint my primaris as. Don't mind me.

1: Ultramarines
2: Imperial Fists
3: Raven Guard
4: White Scars
5: Alpha Legion
6: Space Wolves
7: Blood Angels
8: Dark Angels
9: Iron Hands
0: Salamanders

>>54172639
Saws just got fixed in the FAQ actually.

>>54172601
>>54172399
>maybe if I claim superiority incessantly enough I can convince myself my faction wasn't fucking gutted

>>54172384
Says 1996 on the base tabs m8

>>54172646
Maaaaaybe Farsight Enclaves, but hes about to go off the deep end now that he is getting to know more about the warp.

>>54172625
The space hulk genestealers were the same as the 3 part 3rd edition genestealer box set.

>>54172654

The Emperors gambit after this was to create the grey knights as the literal only effective weapon against chaos that he ever made.

>>54172515
An updated Gorkamorka would be perfect for giving Orks new Warbuggy minis and options worth a damn. Bonus if it also means customizable Goliaths for Genestealer Cults, or technicals for Chaos Cultists...

Hell, you could even rename "Death or Glory" attacks something like "Witness This!"

>>54172575

At least with CSM being pushed you have Marine vs CSM battles in stores.

In comparison to the bad old days of having to play endless loyalist marines vs loyalist marine battles the Marine vs CSM is actually an improvement.

>>54172614
I don't know a single female gamer who plays Sisters of Battle. SoB are the faction for waifu-obsessed men.

I do know females who play Tyranids, Genestealer Cults, Dark Eldar, Daemons, and Orks.

>>54172663
Raven Guard. I can dig it, and it make sense from the lore that they'd get buffed up with some fresh blood.

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>>54172671
>3 Waacfag needing to buy other model instead of foelding their grand complete Tau collection of 6 riptide means the faction is gutted.

good ridance, triflamer and commander spam are even better that riptide were, Gue'la

Dark Eldar vs Tyranids as a starter set would be cool. It could be set in that story where the dark eldar stole an entire hive fleet.

>>54172649
How new are you

>>54172703
Your headcannon isnt a citation faglord.

>>54172685
>he only knows poor people
In my experience playing this crap for more than 2 decades around the worlds

Most girls have nids, DE, Orks, SoB and IG, but I have seen everything.

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>>54172674
Tau are warp-null, he'll be fine.

I hope

>>54172663
You rolled well, Primaris can look silly as shit in some paint schemes but black can't do you wrong.

>>54172698
Is that a space marine in tau colors fighting alongside tau?

>>54172646
>Corner
Not this time
They'll be anywhere needed by plot

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>>54172720
Yes, Greater Good space marines are Cannon

>>54172699

It was a maiden world that was being eaten by the nids. The DE stole a whole planet just so the covens would have fresh Nids to play with.

>>54172654
Well ADB would say that, he's an utterly biased Chaos fanboi

>>54172717
This. Primaris look shit in Red and Blue. Space Wolves and DA and RG look great. IF too I guess. Really depressing. Until we get BA specific Primaris kits I won't buy any.

>>54172715
This meme.
Tau are not null, they are just boring for warp stuff.

It is like having some rice, this glorious cheeseburger, or the same burger but while someone is sucking your dick off.

>>54172685
Do you know ANYONE who plays sisters? Fuck, even mine are a mix of conversions, third party, recasts and fucking leftover witch hunters from 2006.

£20 for a squad was fine. £50 is robbery.

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>>54172720
T'au reverse engineer captured Astartes from the Damocles crusade, it's in the new book.

>>54172734
Since when?

>>54172688

>Raven Guard Primaris

The Primaris don't even have the cool Raven Guard mutations where they are missing some of the Marine organs.

Plus how can you make Beakie Primaris?

>>54172768
No faglord, that pic is at least 3 years old

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>>54172506

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>managed to find 3 of the old grey knight psycannon models with the not dumb psycannons
>got them for $8 each

less than retail baby

>>54172699
They wouldn't do two obvious villain races against each other in a starter.

A realistic starter would be some combination of:
>Power armoured good guys
or
>Astra Militarum
or
>T'au
or
>Craftworld Eldar

versus

>Power armoured bad guys
or
>Tyranids/Orks
or
>Spikey Evil Eldar

>>54172768
That's hilarious. Can I ally in some space fags then?

>>54172759
I don't mean they're blanks or pariahs, they just have no real warp presence, daemons barely notice them.

>>54172762
You can get 5 bolter only girls for £20

>>54172762
I do know one guy with a metal sisters army, yeah.

He's also still got a metal Daemonhunters-era Grey Knights/Inquisition army and a metal Iron Hands army.

>>54172790
Dark Eldar vs AdMech then. It's a dark eldar raid on mars to steal the void dragon for shits and giggles.

>>54172778
Must have inspired the author then.

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>>54172759
So its just like they are immune.

>>54172698
>using the cuck names daddy GW came up with
You sure are showing The Man (tm) how above it all you are, champ.
Now tell me how the apostrophe in T'au was a totally necessary addition.

>>54172627
Maybe if you had mentioned rangers, but not exodites.

>>54172792
Unfortunately it didn't happen instead admech throws tau civilians into volcanoes, enclaves dudes kill marines in melee, and tau blow up a ship as it prepped exterminatus

>>54172819
It's what comes of being near emotionless drones.

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>>54172817
>Even T'au can make space marines


Marinesfag utterly and eternally btfo

>>54172819
Nop they still get dick over by them.
It is mostly the case of getting ignored like the girls you liked but didn't like you back.

>>54172820
Well, yeah. Tau is a name of a star and a greek number. So this at least makes it more specific. Since GW can't seem to decide when a word is a noun or not in novels. If you honestly get bottom bothered by the name changes, you should seek help.

>>54172768
Plz share epub

>>54172807
So you can get a squad of 10 sisters with no superior or special weapons for only £40, oh wow!

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So if ten Codicies are being put out before Christmas, does that mean civilization will have long since collapses and the very stars themselves will have burned out before we get a Talons of the Emperor codex?

>>54172754

Crimson Fists Primaris wouldn't be awful. Just need to avoid the light blue.

>>54172812
Best starter idea, 10/10 would torture forever for lulz.

>>54172679
Don't know where you got that from, anon. I'm literally looking at the Space Hulk Genestealer sprues right now and I sure as fuck don't remember any Genestealers crawling out of vents being part of the 3rd Edition sculpts.

>>54172827
Exodites are like the one exception. Craftworlders are barely removed from DE, they only stopped partying because they "got caught" by Slaanesh so to speak, not because they don't want to.

>>54172857
Not ever flavor of Space Marine needs a codex anon.

>>54172820
>(tm)

Hello grandad, Personal Computers™ sure are complex aren't they!

so you don't get cover saves from interfering models anymore? only if the unit is completely in cover?

>>54172856
Great deal!
I'm sure no one plays SoB because no one likes them!
It has nothing to do with overpriced, old as fuck sculpts and little to no support!

>>54172790
Necrons versus Eldar would be an amusing starter, truth be told. :)

>>54172889
The New Games Workshop™

>>54172882
Get out of here with your manlets and slightly taller manlets.

>>54172843
>still bs 4

>>54171831
If you can get the epubs, then use the free software Calibre to convert to mobi for the Kindle.
Try the request thread if they're not in the links above, the books are definitely around for download... free.

>>54172871
He's thinking of original Space Hulk, not the remake that you're talking about.

There have only ever been two Genestealer kits. The original Space Hulk blue plastics, that was repackaged for 2nd and 3rd ed Nids, and the fourth edition Tyranid Codex release in grey plastic, that was then redone with new poses but using the same design in blue plastic for the nu-Space Hulk.

The "3rd gen" genestealer design combining elements of both is only in the Deathwatch: Overkill set, and is by far the best one. Here's hoping they get an actual kit release with the 8th ed Tyranid Codex.

>>54172870

Trazyn and Necrons

vs

Various factions that have gotten squatted over the decades

Give GW an excuse to pull all sorts of crazy shit out of the backstock like Heavy metal Noise Marines, Squat Bikers, Demiurge, etc

Chaos Daemons vs SoB

>Daemon Prince
>x5 Bloodletters
>x5 Plague Bearers
>x3 Seekers
>x3 Flamers

>Canoness
>x5 Battle Sisters
>x5 Seraphim
>x5 Retributors
>x5 Celestians

Seems fair enough?

>>54172889

yes

>>54172891
Are there even any other metal minis left, or is everything else finecast now?

>>54172762
SoBs are a vocal minority
A loud and small group

>>54172928
Replace the Celestians with a Penitent Engine.

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>really enjoy how intercessors look
>even with snapfit they're dynamic enough to look fine
>cheap as fuck on ebay, I can always get more if I want them
>they fucking suck

no more

>>54172576
Just charge the burnas from 8.0001 inches away, and their flamers are out of reach :)

I'd happily trade Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Black Templars, Death Watch and ESPECIALLY Wolf Wolfs so that all the other factions could get some more releases and attention

Fuck those snowflakes

>>54172941

Oddly enough vostroyans, primaris psykers, masters of the fleet, masters of ordnance, astropaths and wyrdvane psykers are still metal

>>54172941
Metal. No idea why, the even have new cast. Since old metal models look different than the new ones

>>54172964
best not come up short on your charge roll then! But yay, if you can pull it then the boyz are f**ked

>>54172963
>Buying a low model count army at the start of an edition tailored for blobs

Got what you deserved.

>>54172963
Just run them as a tactical squad and their manlet servant Igor carrying the heavy weapon.

>>54172964
>just charge them from farther away than the average of your charge roll, that'll help :^)

>>54172911
Markerlights are a boon for combined fire.

>>54172953
Actual SoB players are few.
Potentional buyers is rather big. Just look at the third party crawling out of the walls for the supposedly super niche market

>>54173015

I play red hunters so I even like the idea of an inquisitor being accompanied by a small retinue of marines rather than an entire demi-company.

Too bad they got completely assfucked by pulsars and starcannons, jesus.

>>54172953
Duh. Who wants to buy all metal monoposed manfaced models which are literally the most expensive models? The fact companies like Raging Heroes made MILLIONS on their 3rd party SoB models suggests there IS a market.

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>>54172911
>using bs

what is it, 7ed?

>have 2 chainswords
>get 2 bonus attacks

>have 3 pair of scything talons
>get only 1 bonus attack

fucking biased bullshit

>>54172972

Unforgiven Primaris and Pretty Vampire Primaris will probably show up before too long and honestly both BAs and DAs can get buy with standard Primaris although robed Primaris would be fun.

Space Wolves at Primaris scale is a major undertaking because Grey Hunters, Blood Claws, Wolf Guard, etc would probably need Primaris scale models at some point.

Tau vs imperial guard, the hammer of the imperium
Guard
>3 lascanon HWT
>40 guardsmen
>commisar with power fist
>officer

Tau
>Farsight
>12 fire warriors
>cadre fireblade
>1 crisis suit armed with 3 flamers
>1 crisis suit armed with 3 plasma rifles
>1 crisis suit shas'vre armed with with 2 burst cannons and an advanced targeting system

>>54173017
You don't find it just a little weird that putting down a wall of flame doesn't work when you're given more time to charge?

>>54173087
To be fair the bonus attacks were just kind of already worked into the models profile

Scything talons could use a buff for Carnifexes and Hormagaunts but then Trygons would need their attack stat nerfed probably

>>54173116

Awful.

>>54173012

>8e
>Starter set armies
>Primaris Space Marines
>Death Guard Plaguemarines

8e is not geared around blob armies it's just that the current meta is geared towards a handful of blob armies doing well or flying mechanized armies

>>54173132
I would have said "single xv9" instead of the crisis suits, but no way is forgeworld in a starter set.
Also forgot the 10 drones.

>>54173120
It's just as weird as flamers gaining infinite range when being charged.

>>54172228
> tentacle rape elves
Just like in my Japanese cartoons!

>>54172261
many companies actually are
more than one is gone the way of the dodo because it failed to listen to their customers desires.

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>>54173033
>>54172762

>>54173160
What.

repentia aren't even that good

>>54172429
> guaranteed (You)s
Well played anon! Upvoted!
Faggot

What's the best way to represent a Rogue Trader dynasty? I was thinking for the ranl and file I'd buy Solar Auxila models and run them as Guardsmen or Scions and support them with tons of air support. The question is ehat other crazy stuff could I throw in unit/model wise?

>>54173116

yeah sure GW is totally going to stick nearly $350 worth of IG in a starter set...

Considering a squad of 10 shitty Cadians or catachan is $48 I think you can guarantee you aren't getting a big IG starter set.

>>54173160
Then there is this crazy bastard

>>54173160
What purpose could one man have for that many models? Isn't that like 4k points?

>>54173190

If you're into massive conversion projects, you could do what that one guy did and make a whole Blanchitsu-aesthetic Navigator House army.

I just ordered a Leviathan because he's the only guy big enough to hang out with my Primaris

>>54173116
Where are your tanks?

>>54173190

Extremely garish inquisitor ordering around a mostly imperial guard army while riding around in a blinged out land raider with extremely well equipped troops (AKA scions) and a marine bodyguard (stern/vanguards)

Include acolytes with fancy as fuck hats and weapons

>>54173195
20 guardsmen, 1 commander, 1 sentinel.
Vs
12 fire warriors, Cadre fireblade, farsight, and 6 drones then?

>>54173220
and what will you do when fw puts out a primaris leviathan ?

>>54173220
The new Primaris Dread coming out soon is bigger than the Leviathan and isn't made of shit resin

>>54173047

Proof they made millions?

>>54173215
Not so much that as I just want to take advantage of mixing and matching with the craziness of 8e. Give me a Dominus Count as Explorator and a Missionary count as priests. House Guard. Count as Scions and Marines count as IG Infantry. Lets get zany

>>54173242
Is it actually? Do we have measurements on it?

>>54173228
In the "you should buy this next" part of the booklet.

>>54173047
>The fact companies like Raging Heroes made MILLIONS on their 3rd party SoB models
>MILLIONS
Loving
Every
Laugh

>>54173047
I'd buy metal models again desu, they're really nice.

>>54173242
And you think that thing's gonna have good rules? It's got an assault cannon or a plasma gun, and a fist

WOOOO

>>54173249
There are pics of them side by side.

It's not a LOT bigger, just very slightly.

How do chaos space marines work like painting wise?, will people get annoyed if they aren't colour coded to there gods?, so that I have to go with a netural colour scheme or what?

>>54173279
It'll be a thousand times more likely not to be banned, though.

>>54173243
Their KickStarter was like £4M before it closed and now they're selling shit.

>>54173260
What's wrong with millions? GW isn't a billion pound company.

>>54173279

Its going to be hard to one-up the leviathans guns but its plasma arm is probably the cannon equivalent of the hellblaster gun which may end up decent.

>>54173279
Actually it's got a super-mega-Primaris Plasma Incinerator Barbecue Cannon and a Mega-Super-Primaris-Tier Dreadfist with ATTACHED Super-Ultra-Assault Cannon and Chassis mounted Missile Launchers and dorsal mounted Rocket Pod.

And it will actually benefit from the Codex Stratagems and Chapter Tactics.

>>54172972
The Black Templars haven't had a model release since, like, 2004-2005. What's your problem with them?

>>54172996
and steel legion and all the other old-regiments(tallarn mordia...) and ratlings

a few chaos space marine things
NL/IW upgrade + old lords and sorcerors i think

>>54173305
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/tgg2-light-and-darkness

M8.

You can easily round that up to $1m from post KS sales, I know I doubled my pledge afterwards.

>>54173329

The guy hates power armour outside of Chaos

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>>54173280
You're right, just found the picture. That's one damn big robot man. I'm curious as to what we'll see for it's stats.

>>54173364
I was including the other kickstarter, the first one. My mistake.

>>54172609
>IG regiments sell

Deluded As fuck

>>54171844
I imagine I'm one of the few here that likes that art, aren't I?

What kind of GM would a space marine be? Probably action focused.

>>54173195
>350 dollars
are you australian or something ?
40 snapfit cadians are 80 dollars

>>54173310
>>54173319
>>54173374
It also looks pants on head as seen here

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>>54172720
No, it's just a piece of fanart tauwank involving Tau trying to replicate Space Marine armor, before their secret base gets eaten by Tyranids.

>>54172734
>>54172698
>>54172601
Is just looking for excuses to bait the threat by trying to shoehorn Tau into every conversation.

>>54172685
For some reason females only play the monstrous races and sometimes Eldar/DE

>>54173392
Which got $700k

>>54173374

>6'1" vs 5'11"

Cryptek
20 warriors
10 tesla immortals
2 heavy destroyer
1 ghost ark

VS

Scything Tervigon
20 devourer thermagant
20 fleshborer thermagaunt
10 genestealers
Scything carnifex

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>>54173442
>>54173279

Frankly I'm more upset that the leviathan dread completely blows the Deredeo out of the water in all respects.

Why is ONE storm cannon better than both arms of an anvillus autocannon battery?

New epic 40k starter set, the war of Armageddon!
>4 imperial titans, 40 guardsmen, 10 space marines, 4 terminators, 4 leman russes
>6 gargantz, 80 boyz, 3 nobz, I meganobz, 2 fighta bombaz, 2 battlewagons
£150

>>54173443
>T'au™ player being the most autist in the thread
Who would have thought?

>>54173214
Iirc he said it was for a escalation league. Crazy bastard.

>>54173549
That would be good, but only in my dreams

>>54173549
I'm going to check right now, if they're not bringing back Epic I will cut you. Don't play with my heart like this

So, death guard codex..
Any confirms from on high that we'll be seeing them for the rest of the big four?

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What are you working at, 40kg?
Since I don't like GW model, and since all my DW veterans are made from primaris I'm making my personal Watchmaster.
Still a huge WIP, have to sculp some inquisition insignia, kitbashing a servoskull, add some other shit and use a lot of greenstuff to smooth the kitbashes and fill the gaps.

Also, how is DW doing in this new edition?
I'm not a competitive player at all but i'm curious how they are doing so far.
I'm probably just going to run mixed IMPERIUM detachments with an Inquisitor leading deatwatch, scions and grey knight terminatour just because i like the models i guess

>>54173495
I don't know about the loyalist version, but the chaos derdero gets the butcher cannon array and heavy havok launcher for cheaper than a leviathan with the same loadout.

>>54173549
Full of shit/10, Titanicus is supposed to come out later this year and unless someone was waiting for Bligh to die in order to add Xenos and turn it into Epic then theres no way FW has rewritten and sculpted enough shit to add xenos and non-titans for Titanicus.

>>54171834
What are you fucking tempestus?
Hearing loss is budgeted in to the war machine.
They'd have better firing efficiency if they were shot for covering their ears.

>>54173495

One storm cannon versus MEQs

10 shots, 8.33 hits, 5.55 wounds, 3.7 unsaved wounds.

Anvillus autocannon array

8 shots, 6.67 hits, 5.56 wounds, 2.78 unsaved wounds

>>54173655

That helps but fuck me I'm loyalist

Are GSC able to embark into allied IG transports?

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>>54173160
buyin rhinos instead of the marginally more expensive immolators where you can make SOB rhinos out of.

pic related

>Reivers disrupt the hearing of the enemy with vox-amplified war cries and audio-sonic weaponry.

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL

>>54173612
What happened with the supposed Epic remake that was going to be at a bigger escale? it was supposed to be a Titan combat game

>>54173685

12" extra range is a thing
Also +1 to hit vs flyers

>>54173692

No, unless IG as a transport that does not specify astra units.

>>54172228
OwO

>>54173120
I find it weirder that a Baleflamer is one of the best possible weapons for shooting Flyers out of the sky.

>>54173694
Or, you can buy immolators for £25, then sell that sprue on ebay for £50

>>54173715
Damn it, no 40 genestealers in a stormlord then

Anyone have any good names/ideas for fluffing out a tempestus scions regiment? they're going to be allies for my Iron Hands and mechanicum in the future when we get rules for the FW stuff, going with a desert tan scheme.

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>>54173646

No real confirmations outside of announcing DG get there own codex. I would imagine the 1k sons get there own. Khorne? If daemonkin get another codex it wouldn't be surprising.

EC will probably have awhile to wait a good while but, they should the next Chaos god after Nurgle given that the others have all had big releases in the past year or two. Fulgrim would be a really cool model and gods know Keeper of Secrets could use an update.

Maybe then Angron?

Post 5 thing that would make every 40k general better.
1. No more tau/sisters players.
2. No more people that react to tau/sisters players/and or baiters.
3. No more drawings of female eldar.
4. Less Tyranid players.
5. Less bad OPs.

>>54173700

shooting at storm raven

10 storm cannon shots with the -1 to hit

10 shots, 6.67 hits, 3.33 wounds, 2.22 unsaved wounds, 4.44 damage.

10 storm cannon shots with both hard to hit and movement penalty for cumulative -2 to hit.

10 shots, 5 hits, 2.5 wounds, 1.67 unsaved wounds, 3.33 damage

8 anvillus autocannon shots with targeting array

8 shots, 6.67 hits, 4.44 wounds, 2.22 unsaved wounds, 4.44 damage.
Yeah its still pretty close.

>>54173752

Like GSCs need a transport

you have something like 75% chance of T1 charge with cult ambush and a reroll.

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>>54173729
Heldrakes at least are excused

>>54173772
Hmm, I would, but doing so would be reacting to b8.

Oh shit.

>>54173783
You're pretty shitty at math.

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40k girlyman or 30k girlyman?

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>>54173787
Not bait, truth.

Coming back to the game, question about Forgeworld.

If you can take a detachment from the Astra Militarum, does that mean the Forgeworld Astra Militarum too?

If you take a detachment from the Astra Militarum, can you take air support (valkyrie air wing) too? Thanks for any help, sorry if I missed a rule.

>>54173783

Gotta have at minimum 50% of your units on the board. Transports give t3 5+ guys a chance to get somewhere on the board.

>>54173772
1. No more autists
2. No more autists
3. No more autists
4. No more autists
5. No more autists

>>54173796

5 and 6 pretty much guarantee a charge

with a reroll that's 5/9 of getting one of them

4 and 2 usually require a 9+ charge roll, which is somewhat doable

1 is awful, 3 generally means no charge.

So yeah, i pulled 75% out of my ass, but i'm pretty sure it's between 65% and 80%

>>54173798
30k by far. Design actually fits the character.

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I didn't play any previous edition so my question might be stupid but why Nobz and Boyz bases are so small? They are good for skaven but orks don't even fit them properly

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>Hydra dominatus

It is my head canon that imperials are so dull that they wouldn't notice therefore giving a new perspective to the fact that hulking massively armoured troops are capable of deep infiltration and sensitive undercover ops.

>>54173808

units of 5 ratlings my friend

>>54173834
Nobz are 30mm now.

>>54173802
Its ASTRA MILITARUM tag, yes? Then yes you can. Your 1 allied detachment in that case would be a air support detachment

>>54173834
Old models basically

>>54173834
because they are from a time when 32mm bases (aka space marine bases) didnt exit.

i personally put my nobs on said 32mm to differentiate them from puny boys.

>>54173841
>It is my head canon that imperials are so dull that they wouldn't notice the words. therefore giving a new perspective to the fact that hulking massively armoured troops are capable of deep infiltration and sensitive undercover ops.

Sorry I went full potato and skipped a few words

>>54173696
Apparently moved to next year while they push the new 40k hard this year. Possibly getting more plastics than initially planned.

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>talking about unrelated shit
>louder than players I'm trying to hear
>annoying af bouncing and fidgeting
>shit commentary no timing at all
REEEEEEEEE
why is this bitch on my tv

>>54173841

99.99% wouldn't even be aware that Hydra Dominatus is something heretical.

>>54173843
>>54173847
Can I find somewhere a list of proper base sizes for ork models in 8e? I just unboxed a nobz unit and these bases are so fuckin tiny and cute

>>54173798
I like the sculp of the 30k but the model itself is pretty boring.

>>54173860
alpha legion was said to have psykers that altered the vision of ppl around them

reivers have cawlmagic

>>54173865
I wonder, does the comissariat know?

>>54173871
Just put them on the bases, pretty sure GW has said you can use whatever bases they came with, unless they bother you that bad

>>54173841
War of the Beast has scions fighting alongside Iron Warriors for a while without realising they're traitor marines until the warsmith referes to his legion rather than chapter.

The Imperium's ridiculous obsession with suppressing even harmless non-chaos knowledge about the traitors probably means the Alpha Legion can just show up, introduce themselves as the 'Hydra Warrior' chapter or something and be given free reign of the entire planet.

Especially since the Alpha Legion is officially listed as destroyed.

>>54173871
Boys are 25mm, Nobz are 30mm(space marine size). Warbosses are 40mm (terminator size

>>54173892

And if you've circled that phrase, then they'll have found the Alpha Legion operative.