/CofD/ & /wodg/ Chronicles of Darkness and World of Darkness

First for the gay agenda

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Second for the chronicles of fagness

>>54169907
>Are there any good WoD like comic books?
The more recent I, Vampire is alright. It's about a vampire trying to stop his ex-lover from taking her vampire cult and leading a charge against humanity.

Quick question about the V20 system. Is there anything stopping players from spending willpower on soak rolls? I can't seem to find anything specific on that topic.

>>54170013
Beasts do not serve the Gay Agenda and thus need to be removed

Hunter Squads with Heroes shall be dispatched.

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So uh, Caine could totally beat an Archmage.

>>54170148
No, we are not doing this

So, did people think DtF was going to be shit before it came out? I don't really recall how people received it when it was in progress.

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Reposting:

Could anyone point me to resources for running a Dark Ages game?

Blogs they recommend, youtube videos, etc.

>>54170148
Fuck you, shut the fuck up and fuck off.

The caine vs archmage has been argued to death. Its a stupid argument because neither would ever come into a position where they'd both be fighting each other.

The argument is pointless dick measuring and is like trying to argue; what wins a steak dinner or a banana split sundae.

>>54170310
The steak dinner, obviously.

>>54170255
dunno, I and my group liked demon and we never heard anything about that

>>54170319
Yeah no, banana split creams all over your ass steak.

>>54170310
Steak dinner wins. It's more filling and is better nutrition. Also it doesn't melt and won't send me into a diabetic coma.

When I think of steak dinner I think "hmmmm good". But when I think ice cream sundae I think "How much do I want to not be awake?"

So my dudes, I have a bit of a conundrum.

I'm starting a new CofD game, small scale, two to three players tops. For the sake of easing people into the setting, I'm planning on having this be a mundie game, so everyone's your run-of-the-mill human. Splat changes may happen, but for now that's a big maybe.

Point is, I want to set this game somewhere in Wisconsin, preferably the foresty regions. But I'm an eurofag who's never been to burgerland, so I have literally no idea what's a solid supernatural issue to tackle here or harrow my people with, and just throwing little green or grey men at them feels old as shit.

Help me, fa/tg/uys, you're my only hope.

>>54170310
>Its a stupid argument because neither would ever come into a position where they'd both be fighting each other.

But what if they DID

>>54170346

I mean, I think it's kinda shit but on re-read i came up with a character concept anyway. Crazy homeless guy, Devil, is internet famous for haranguing and insulting passers-by on public streets. Since the Demon got in him, though, his insults are now a bit more personal...

Of course, I can also do this with Mage, Vampire, Werewolf, and possibly Changeling.

>>54170415
Archmage wins

>>54169951
>First for the gay agenda

>TFW I can't post the Free Council art because I'm at work

>>54170409

Woofs.

>>54170310
>Its a stupid argument because neither would ever come into a position where they'd both be fighting each other.
Archmage from the Order of Hermes decides to investigate the origin of vampires.

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>>54170148

>>54170459

One time I rolled a Corax and took Other People's Secrets - "I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE CAINE IS!" Like most of our groups games, it fell apart before it came up.

>>54170459
I don't think Caine would be stupid enough to warrant an attack on an uber-wizard. They would probably mingle for a while.

Maybe even have lunch.

>>54170409
Throw a vaguely native-american themed spirit monster at them.

>>54170501
where was he?

>>54170572

Driving a cab in Los Angeles.

>>54170572
banging your mom :>

>>54170527
>>54170450

Seems spirit world shenanigans are the prevalent ideas. I've been thinking similar too.

>>54170409
>skinwalkers
>bigfoot
>windigo
>underwater panther
>mothman
>jersey devil
>demon cars
>skunk ape
>lizard men
>clowns (seriously, guys skulking around at night dressed as clowns and following people)
>werewolves
>witch covens
Relatively American supernatural shit off the top of my head.

Werewolf fag here.

Can animals be spirit-claimed?

>>54170781
A possessed dog is one of the examples in Book of Spirits.

>>54170409
You really can't go wrong with shamanistic spooks. Witchcraft and satanic stuff is more prevalent in the folklores of the South and New England, whereas ayylmaos are more of a Southwest thing.
But pretty much every place in the U.S. has some sort of native influence in their local legends.

>>54170778
Big thanks, that's something to read to the pillow tonight.

>>54169907
>Are there any good WoD like comic books?
Lost Girls by Alan Moore

So it's been mentioned several times before that a Councilia isn't a 'government' but a legal system.

What does that mean? Surely there is some method for enforcing magical law and each councilium has it's own local laws and customs. That meets all the requirements for a functioning government.

>>54170781
Yes.

>>54170967
Another alternative is to have no supernatural elements what so ever. Humans are pretty fucked up all by themselves. Your players could run into a cult, maybe a serial killer, a crazy cannibalistic hermit, human traffickers, etc.

>>54171045
A Consilium doesn't really do shit for you though. It's governance begins and ends with law enforcement and protecting the Consilium (which doesn't always mean protecting you). Everything beyond that is pretty much Mages making deals, trading debt, and being dicks to each other.

>>54171119
Didn't we have a dirty confessions thread some time ago where people admitted to using cults in their games?

>>54171145
Sounds like a Government to me.

:-D

>>54171154
What's wrong with using cults?

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Stat me /wodg/

>>54171224
Jim Jones pls go

>>54171267
But anon, I brought refreshments.

>>54161146
Yep, there's even a Legacy where making plasma is a listed part of their attainments. Celestial Masters.

>>54161161
What book are the Wu Keng from?

>>54172048
Book of Crafts and Dragons of the East

>>54171224
Nothing. I think Cults are a good enemy.
Mortals meddling in supernatural affairs is a grade A recipe for disaster.

My Vamps will encounter a club of old (1890) gentleman that all happen to be ghouls (and they are all way older than my Vamps that have been embraced 1945) . But they don't have a master and seem to know little about Vamp society.
In fact they have a few staked vamps in the basement and a magical grail that prevents the Blood Bond. They are in fact convinced to be in possesion of the Holy grail...

They don't necessarily kill all Vamps they meet but they are actually powerplayers that won quite a few powerstruggles with different Vamps.

What would a Demon and a Mage want from each other? I loved Lucifer from Gaiman's comic book and I want an NPC that's an homage to him in my current awakening game.

>>54172126
>What would a Demon and a Mage want from each other?

Sex

>>54170016
Is the left one JD?

>>54172126
A Demon? Services, pacts, perhaps aid against enemy demons.
Mages? Knowledge, perhaps aid in deciphering some Mystery, all that

>>54170016
The tagline is so fucking stupid and incoherent. Did Rose write this?

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>Putting together a CtL game for a few friends of mine
>Have only been ST once before, players still unfamiliar with system
>Setting up a fictional small town for the chronicle to take place
>Players throw me for a loop, ask for game to be a road trip
>Whatever, I roll with it because I think it will be fun
>Have a few ideas for plot, but need to plan sessions
>Want to keep characters progressing and mobile, but still keep them engaged and doing things within each session

Any advice? The easy answer is combat and I think that's part of what my players expect, but I can see that quickly becoming boring and i want to show off the other elements of the system/setting without forceful railroading. I'm also pretty new at prepping sessions and making plots so I have no idea if it'll be any good.

>>54172713
Give them a long term target to be pursuing, maybe have them following the shit the target leaves behind/causes. Could always focus on them seeing how different each freehold is from the other and how they're similar as well?

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Stat him, /wodg

>>54172126

The Demon/Mage Wombo Combo.

The Mage magicks his way into a position of great influence or power that a demon wants, and trades it to the Demon in exchange for the true name of his worst enemy, location of artifacts and lore he wants, etc.

So I am a novice St, and my friends want to play a crossover splat set in our home town, Hamilton, Ontario. Theyes are playing werewolves, changeling, promethean, beast and vampire. Plan to have a council running the city made of various races, with werewolves, mages and vampires near the top, and Prometheans and beast near the bottom. There is room for other races, and the shit they encounter. Any tips or ideas for planning out these sessions?

>>54173379
explain how and why they came together and are not on each other's throats or hiding from everyone. Is there an external threat that is so great that they were forced to make common ground?

>>54173379
>Hamilton
Why not go to a real city, like Toronto, the best city in our province

t. a Torontonian :^)

>>54170409
Transplant some of your own. America is a land of immigrants - most from Eurofagland. Many communities have heavy old world ancestry, with a rich tradition of the folklore hidden just between the surface. Small towns settled by Scandinavian, German, and other cultures colored our landscape, and though through time there has been a lot of modernization, perhaps some things brought over from the old country still linger.

Make players travellers, so they have to discover the folklore of the town, rather than being in the know, educate them and fuck with them, have fun.

>>54173497
The premise is they are all apart of a role playing group, when some cosmic fuckery, due in turn to the god machine, their fates were inexplicable turned, and now, not knowing of this, have to figure out what the hell is going on, all while trying to survive the world of darkness, and the the threats appearing to tear them apart, ie, wolf pack loyalty, political of vampires, disquiet, all that jazz
>>54173588
t. A Hamiltonian
How aboot I come down there and kick your ass, eh?

>>54170409
In the CoFD and NWoD 2.0 stuff, I have noticed that everyone starts out as 5/4/3 in their Attributes. Does that make sense, or even work out in play? It seems to put base humanity on even footing to a degree with the supernatural, which really doesn't fit any fiction.

>>54172126
In oWoD, demons can turn Mages into thralls and through that give them INSANE amounts of freebie points to spend on anything they wish.

>>54173720
what mage would be guillible enough to fall for that? A Hollow One?

>>54173691
Do it fucker, I'll pour poutine down your pants and take a shit in Dundurn Castle

But really, first thing would be probably getting them to form an 'offical' Pack and get a totem, or at least dangle that infront of them. Could have them go up aginst a Mummy, it isn't represented in the group and is powerful enough that it'd still cause a problem for the group of supernaturals considering power levels. Though if it's the GMC you could have the plot involve them having to ask/make a deal with a demon to get help to shut down the Occult Matrix/infastructure that caused them all to get turned (maybe turn back if they want to) so shit doesn't happen again.

>>54173710

>which really doesn't fit any fiction

Setting aside that some splats get a free dot in something to set them apart, it works because all splats have a connection to humanity at their core, whether or not they were human, still are human but with some extra ability, or strive to become/imitate it in some way.

Besides, once the powers come into play equivalent Attribute ratings won't matter as much.

>>54173853
So dangle the idea that they could eventually split from all thover fuckers, and set up a pack just for them? That's an interesting idea. Got anymore? The demon stuff I do have a plan for, it's justill, right of the bat, they don't really know about the God Machine, really doesn't get brought up besides demons, who are really hard to find in a crowd, mages, who know a bit of this through researching, and vampires, due to just how long some of them have lived, and the shit they have seen

http://theonyxpath.com/the-true-fae-changeling-the-lost/

And here we go, it looks like we're probably about six months out from CtL2e hitting shelves.

>>54173744
A fedora mage who believes to be above of silly abrahamic notions of good and evil, of course.

>>54174037
so, a Technocrat? :^)

>>54174063
Maybe.

>>54173963
I was more suggesting it could be good to have the crew be a pack with a totem backing the, possibly being an 'advisory' position that could help them be in the know without owing huge debts to mages/older vampires/demons and the like. Totems are helpful and ask for (relatively) little compared to other things.

Though of course splitting off is always a thing, always some fun to building your own power base.

No real ideas for group like that, I mean you could do something with the spirit/Spirit court of the falls, that'd be a powerful place given it's "natural wonder" status.

>>54170051
After reading the book i would say no.

It says you can spend 1 willpower to give yourself 1 auto success on a "Action" i dont think soak rolls count as an "action".

>>54174467
By this i mean you dont loose your next action if you have to roll soak, so it doesnt count as a action so no spending willpower to get a auto success on it.

>>54173998
Waiting for the first words out of a magefags mouth to be "Fate X could just undo all those titles."

>>54174602

Fate 7 or 8, probably.

>>54174149
Oh, we will have someone to fit the advisory position. The DM in the group is secretly a cover for a demon who is trying to push his friends in the right direction in his fight against the god machine, all while working behind the scenes in some of the various covers posing as npcs

What is the coolest Ascension tradition /tg/?

>>54175504
They are all reality deviants, the technocracy did nothing wrong

>>54174602
>>54174623
Fate 7 would be enough to undo any given True Fae.
Or worse, allow the Archmaster to duplicate their abilities.

Template fuckery is kind of a specialty among Seekers.

What stats (CofD) should I give to a koala?

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True Fae seem to have far more limitations than before.

Can't wait to troll them as an Acanthus and save my Fairest waifu from their horrid playgrounds.

>>54175909
>waifu

Careful, Hill could be lurking.

>>54175568
The Technocracy is boring though.

>>54175820
I wouldn't.
Those motherfuckers are lazy as hell.

>>54176033
Koalas are also retarded.

>>54176048
>>54176033
Its going to be my narcoleptic hedge beast companion! But I need the base animal stats qq

>>54175820

Str 1 Char 2 Percep 2
Dex 2 Man 1 Int 1
Sta 3 App 5 (pure sex) Wits 2

Seduction 5

>>54176087
Strength 1, Dexterity 0, Stamina 1.
Presence 1, Manipulation 0, Composure 3
Intelligence 1, Wits 0, Resolve 2

>>54174602
True Fae seem to be actual Templates, so an Acanthus Master could just Unmake all its Titles and even its Name.

Sounds annoying, but they deal with Fate as an actual concept, so it makes sense.

I told you this would happen

Magefags won't let anyone have fun with Changeling 2.0

>>54175952
as if Hill would use le ebil alt-right board

>>54176130
Template fuckery is arch mastery. Although what the quintessence would be I'm not sure. It'd have to be fairly epic though. I once had to get the Iron heart of Theia before she smashed into earth and gave birth to Luna for an Imperial level Spirit spell.

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Would you allow this character in your game?
Real name: John Young Shadowname: Mordred Adaminite Arrow Obrimos
Mordred the black knight, few would think to take this name but it bares a special meaning to John. John was dating Anna Smith. A wonderful young woman, and after a lengthy 3 month courtship he was about to marry her and he was leaning toward joining her faith as well. It would have been a good day. That was until the unthinkable happened. A strange woman burst into their apartment, there was a brief fight a terrifying one that defied logic, until the intruder pulled out a sword and slew Anna. The amazing golden and shining polished metal of the blade stunned him. He felt like he was looking upon Excaliber the legendary sword of kings. Where Anna's body once lay only a piece of drift wood with a deer skull on it remained.

Broken inside, John sought out insight into what happened. He could find none, nothing sane anyway. He hated that woman who killed Ana for so long until he learned the truth. The Ana he loved, was a soulless simulacrum of the real Anna, who had killed her. Created by a soulless abomination called a Fairy Nobel. The fairy noble had kidnapped the real Anna and replaced her with the cheap copy called a fetch. The real Anna had been a slave, and came to kill the thing that replaced her. But that thing had all the signs of a soul. Had it developed one? Did it have a the deers simple soul that refined over time into a more human like one. Why had this happened.

John through himself into studying souls, their nature, their importance from this he awoke as an Obrimos, his conflict driven nature drew him to the Arrow. John works as a contract specialist, a cleaner and troubleshooter in the underworld. The arrow looks at him with a mixed feeling as he seems to be heading down a left handed path. Likely a result of the shadow name he chose. He is aggressive, prone to seeking conflict, and prone to finding resolution quickly

>>54176291
I wasn't referring to Template fuckery, more so that Unmaking is all that would be needed to deal with a True Fae.

This is running with the assumption that the Mage has five dots of Fate, which most won't.

>>54176340
>more so that Unmaking is all that would be needed to deal with a True Fae.

*cough* *cough* cold iron *cough* Matter Arcanum *cough* *hack* *cough*

>>54175504

>Lions of Zion
>Fuck SatyrDouche

>>54175568
>They are all reality deviants, the technocracy did nothing wrong

#NotAllRealityDeviants

>>54175909
>Acanthus and save my Fairest waifu from their horrid playgrounds.

Intersplat marriage serve the Lie.

What's next, bestiality with werewolves, necrophilia with vampires, or worst of all, believing that sleepers are people and shouldn't be vivisected in the pursuit of Mysteries.

>>54176380
So Mater 3? to transmute steel to Perfect iron (Siderite?)

>>54173004
Virtue: Justice
Vice: Bluntness

Path: Thyrsus
Order: Adamantine Arrow

Mental Attributes: Intelligence 3, Wits 4(6), Resolve 5(8)
Physical Attributes: Strength 5(8), Dexterity 4(6), Stamina 5(8)
Social Attributes: Presence 3, Manipulation 2, Composure 4(6)

Skills: Academics (Law) 1, Crafts 1, Computer 1, Medicine 1, Occult 2, Investigation (Crime Scenes) 3, Science 1, Athletics (Acrobatics) 5(8), Brawl (Kung Fu) 5(8), Drive 4, Firearms (Pistols) 4, Larceny 2, Stealth 2, Survival 2, Weaponry (Improvised) 4, Animal Ken 2, Empathy 2, Expression (Puns) 1, Intimidation (Violence) 3, Persuasion 1, Streetwise (Police) 3, Subterfuge 2

Merits: Area Of Expertise (Kung Fu), Danger Sense (Advanced), Fast Reflexes 3 (Advanced), Indomitable (Epic), Professional Training 5 (Kung Fu Cop: Streetwise, Brawl, Athletics), Tolerance For Biology, Trained Observer 1, Crack Driver 3, Demolisher 3, Greyhound, Iron Stamina 3, Parkour 4, Quick Draw (Pistol), Iron Will, Resources 2, Status (Police 3), Striking Looks 1, Defensive Combat (Brawl), Martial Arts 5, Unarmed Defense 5, Adamant Hand Style 5 (Athletics, Brawl), Order Status (Adamantine Arrow 3), Destiny 3, Dream 3, Potent Nimbus 2, Rote Mastery (Honing The Form 3, Augment Mind 3, Enhance Skill 3), Shadow Name 3

Health: 13
Willpower: 10
Defense: 14
Initiative: 15
Speed: 19
Wisdom: 6
Gnosis: 4
Arcana: Life 4, Forces 4, Mind 4

Rotes: Life (Honing The Form), Forces (Kinetic Efficiency, Kinetic Blow, Velocity Control), Mind (Augment Mind, Enhance Skill)

Praxes: ???

Dedicated Magical Tool: Kung Fu Bandana

>>54176438
...So when a Werewolf and a Primordial love each other and one of them knocks up the other one...that's wrong in your eyes, or does that only apply to Mages?

>>54175504
Taftâni. Fuck Islam, fuck the Consensus and fuck Paradox.

>>54176340
It's not that I think unmaking won't work I just think you'd have to have arch mastery in order to do it. Kind of like how Spirit unmaking can't effect rank 6+ entities until arch mastery.

>>54176491
You really love to fuck don't you? So what does paradox feel like? Does it tingle just right?

>>54176492
That's specifically designed for spirits, and for obvious reasons.

Spirits represent something far larger than the Wyrd.

>>54176511
It burns, but if it means I can blast my enemies with fireballs in the middle of a crowd, it is worth it

>>54176488
is the werewolf male and gets pregnant from the tender touch of his genderfluid Primordial partner?

>>54176559
Sticking your dick into reality crazy burns, and you think that is worth it for fireballs? Fireballs are not worth damage to my good friend Mr. Johnson and the Juice Crew.

>>54176581
How the fuck does a male werewolf get pregnant?

>>54176488
>So when a Werewolf and a Primordial love each other and one of them knocks up the other one...that's wrong in your eyes, or does that only apply to Mages?

Why should superior *persons* such as the Wise care one iota what lesser animals do in their natural habitats unless it interferes with the pursuit of a Mystery or it directly debases the Awakened.

However, the union of a lycanthrope and geotically-possessed human would make a most excellent subject of laboratory study...

>>54176609
Anyway as long as you want to tell that story.

>>54176461
I think dave said he was going to get rid of instant spells to make alloys and perfected shit, you'll need to do it the old fashioned way of back n forth through the gauntlet for ages.

>>54176596
Spoken like a Sleeper. What good is power at your command if you cannot use it to destroy your enemies in the good old-fashioned way?

>>54176581
I'm going to say no. The sheer likelihood of that happening is low given less than 1% of the population is gender-fluid.

And given my rulebook has that sidebar redacted...Let's assume one of them is male, and the other female.

>>54176609
theres a gift that allows WW's to change sex.

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>>54176609
In the magical realm of Onyx Path, everything is possible

Ideads for a full mortals game?

>>54176642
So it's not really a pregnant male then

>>54176625
>I think dave said he was going to get rid of instant spells to make alloys and perfected shit, you'll need to do it the old fashioned way of back n forth through the gauntlet for ages.

Dave indicated that spells would not be able to make Lasting perfected substances, that would require the old fashioned methods.

>>54176609
They have to use the power of the moon to grow the reproductive organs needed but they are shapeshifters to it's possible.

>>54176650
why would you play mortals in wod, go play mortals in some other game like CoC or some shit.

>>54176625
No, you can still make them. They're just not Lasting.

>>54176640
>And given my rulebook has that sidebar redacted

I believe such power is even beyond archmastery o the Arcana.

>>54176650
play Hunter

>>54176658
We wont know 100% until Signs and Sigil is printed.

>we will never know.

>>54176684

We'll see the Lions of Zions in M20 before Signs of Sorcery.

>>54176653
males can be trapped in a female body you know?

#trannystruggles

>>54176626
I'll stick to my favorites.
Juicing up the kenetic energy in bullets.
Sucking their souls out as I run them through with a sword.
Spontaneous Human Combustion.
"random" objects falling out of no where to hit them on the head. Ever seen "Dead Like Me?" Yeah that opening was inspired by my handy work. Needed a sleeper to test the effectiveness of random toilet seat dropped from 15,000 feet.

>>54176684
He flat out mentioned it, you dumb shit.

But you're right about Signs.

>>54176613
>However, the union of a lycanthrope and geotically-possessed human would make a most excellent subject of laboratory study...

Indeed. It would also teach the Beast a most valuable lesson about mage supremacy.

>>54176699
See i dont know what all the fuss is about with the Lions. They have been printed, its not hard to include them in your own games, they have text already, just ignore phils shit and get on with it.

Signs though has new stuff that we actually need.

>>54176713
nah, too modern. I prefer the traditional way
(shame on Brucato for allowing Taftâni to use modern technology as a focus)

>>54176675
>pregnancy
>beyond the powers of the archmages

of course

>>54176664
>CoC
cause everybody knows the system, plus it might be fun trying to solve ghost or monster stuff as a weak human

>>54176709
>males can be trapped in a female body you know?

Without magic or diagnosable severe mental illness?

>>54176720
he flat out mentioned it for something in development that might have changed since then you knob jockey.

We wont know 100% till its in print, anything said in the mean time is just speculation. He might change his mind again

>>54176653
Define male when it comes to a shape shifter.
They can still have a dick, and just use C-section to give birth. They don't have the have the Vagina...just the uterus, and not permanently.

>>54176741
no archmage can defeat the awesome power of social justice, inclusion and tolerance
(could a Plain defeat an archmage if he can observe them?)

>>54176675
The power to redact something in a book you own is beyond Archmages, but not a sleeper with a sharpie? Great to know.

It only takes Fate and Matter to kill a True Fae?

...Really?

>>54176787
Just fate

>>54176776
>but not a sleeper with a sharpie

Sharpies serve the Lie.

>Prince of 100,000 Sharpies

>>54176336
If his Awakening started snowballing because of the death of his fetch girlfriend and he's obsessed with souls, him being a Moros would be more appropriate. If you want him to be an Obrimos it would be more appropriate to have him obsessed with truth. Mordred is also a poor choice of shadow name, just from what I see here. Guy is notorious for being a traitor above all else, so if you are actually taking Arthurian legend, that would be hanging over his head. You also have to consider if it's a name he would choose for himself. I would suggest either Merlin (a half-demon wizard who has beef with the Lady of the Lake, a woman close to Excalibur) or Burnout (double meaning, referencing his self-destruction but also the fact that he's an Obrimos that rides a motorcycle, I assume).

In the process of proof reading I noticed you weren't looking for thoughts or criticisms, but whatever. I typed it out so it's going in the post. Yeah I would let him in the game if he could contain his edge.

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>>54176787

>>54176736
Running them through with a soul sucking sword is too modern?

>>54176750
see >>54176755

They are shape shifters. They can alter their biology at will.

>>54176755
>Define male when it comes to a shape shifter.
Born with male genitalia.

In Awakening 2e, what level of Forces would be necessary to nullify combustion and render firearms and explosives effectively inert?

>>54176814
Using that sword yourself is. That is what djinn slaves are for

>>54176863
Forces 3

>>54176863
>>54176863
Unravelling? So 4

>>54176787
Obviously not, are you really expecting that a 6+ entity is going to die so easily without you following the rules? Further more are you really trusting these idiots to know how mage or changeling works?

>>54176901
Fraying 3 is not going to nullify it completely.

>>54176868
>Using that sword yourself is. That is what djinn slaves are for

Really, what self-respecting mage get's his own hands dirty, that's what flunkeys and lackeys are for.

>>54176863
I'm actually not sure it can. How can Forces preemptively affect energy? The closest I can think of is a spell from the Mysterium book designed to contain explosions right in the instant they happen.

>>54176725
>Beast comes and wants to the teach a mage a lesson about hubris
>Beast is sendt crying back into the Primordial Realm
Feels good to be Awakened

>>54176922
I would reckon the True Fae are only 6+ entities within the compounds of Arcadia.

Outside of their dominion they are fair game.

>>54176922
Said it before, will say it again.
Exceptional Success + Unmaking and your True Fae, rank 6 spirit or ANYTHING can go suck balls.

>>54176935
So you're saying an Obrimos couldn't render all firearms useless within twenty-five meters?

That's just silly, anon. Forces is just that.

>>54176935
There was a spell in the seers book i think which did exactly this?

Was in one 1e book for certain.

>>54176945

Is Fae Arcadia part of the Fallen World like the Shadow and Underworld, a Lower Depth or something else entirely?

>>54176955
6+ spirits are immune to Unmaking.

True Fae would be a go, as long as they're outside Arcadia.

>>54176804
Actually I was, but I used up almost all my 2,000 characters on the story.

I went with Mordred because I was planning for him to have the group I wish to join's Moros teach me Death magic, and from there go on to make my own anti-excaliber.

And he's not so much about being edgy, loner. He is, as I have planned, going for a Reaper Legacy. So in a way he is betraying the Arrow. As far as I know Modred was the only foe in Aurthic lore who wielded a sword equal but opposite to Excaliber.

And Moros would be a starting point if his interest in the nature of the soul was in separation (i.e. Death) not the origins, composition, and function (Prime) which are religious questions by nature.

>>54176962

I was considering whether Forces could stop a bomb.

>>54176983
LOL

What utter pish. Calling out your bullshit.

>>54176962
>Obrimos vs firearms

> L O L

>>54177000
It's true. It's right in Mage 2e.

Feel free to Unmake anything else.

>>54176995
Yes

>>54176861
Okay in the core book, a to Forsaken a Shape Shifter born with male genitalia can after having homosexual sex, grow a Uterus around his male lovers load that was left in him, and from that grow a child and be pregnant with his lover's child. He will need medical help giving birth to it though.

>>54176995
It can do that too.

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>>54177017
yes ill take your word for it also. Page # please

>>54177040
...
I never said it was pretty.

>>54177052
Page 184, my friend.

>>54177052

Pg. 184
Annihilate Spirit

>>54176863
Found it, Was in the AA book

For some reason its Forces 2 and Death 2 to nullify combustion.

But 1e spells hardly ever obeyed the practices. I'd stick with Forces 4 for 100% nullify, 3 might knock some dice off firearms or reduce their damage mod.

How much weaker are the True Fae outside of Arcadia as of Changeling 2e?

I'm too lazy to read any of that, please spare me.

>>54177081
Well shit on me, how hard was that. Why you couldnt have mentioned it the first time though is beyond me.

>>54176986
Death has all things soul under its purview, anon, not just stealing them. Prime would be appropriate for him because of his desire to know the truth of souls, which could then feed into a Reaper Legacy to learn Death.

>>54177081
IS a true fae a spirit?

>>54177137

Is this an actual question?

>>54177137
No

>>54177120
>as of Changeling 2e?

We don't know. David Hill's playtest draft seems to have been mostly discarded by OPP.

>>54177151
Did you fucking read the thing that was posted not long ago?

>>54177120
Unknown, still a Metaplot level encounter I think. Which is to say no PC has a hope of winning a fight against one. Best bet is to trick them, force them into a narrative loop, or basically don't find something with help levels of "ST Laughs" and a Supernatural tolerance of 10.

>>54177100
>For some reason its Forces 2 and Death 2 to nullify combustion.
Forces = energy. Death = absence.

Energy + absence = no energy. Makes perfect sense to me.

>>54177148
It was a question born of using Annihilate Spirit to kill a True Fae, since I didn't think they were a spirit I don't see why this spell would work but I thought I might be mistaken, and asked just to be sure.

>>54177165

Something after David's drafts?

>>54177136
That's what I figured. Still waiting to hear back from that ST to see if my character is approriate though.

Do you think I should still consider a new Shadow Name?

>>54177180
Except in 2e now, you can control anything within a purview without adding other shit to it.

You can nullify/cancel forces just using Forces now. 2 dot practices dont have the power to be able to 100% nullify anything under their purview, that much is certain.

>>54177175
>Which is to say no PC has a hope of winning a fight against one

Would be more accurate to say that no Changeling has a hope of winning a fight against one. Not unless you play by their rules.

>>54177215
>http://theonyxpath.com/the-true-fae-changeling-the-lost/

>>54177133
>O-oh.... shit, I was wrong. QUICKLY, I MUST DEFLECT THE BLAME
>haha, no one will ever think I wasn't cool on the internet

>>54177224
oh shit was this for Awakening? yes get a new name.

If you ever want to go visit the Aeon Mordred, you dont want to have his name too. He will fuck you up if you bring shame to his name!

>>54177204
They're not "spirits", they're embodiment of fate, but if one thing of 6+ ranked creatures counts then it probably applys to other 6+ beings, such as rare angels, True Fae and the rulers of the underworld.

>>54177255
More like, folk say shit like that all the time with no proof. So taking anything anybody says with a pinch of salt is a given.

>>54177232
Go point a mage might be able to by playing by someone's rules wound them, or drive them back to wence they came. Beating them at their own game is easier and banishing them much easier to handle.

>>54177280
Are Gnosis 6 mages considered rank 6 equiv?

>>54177326
No. That would be arch mastery

>>54177326
No, you must have 6+ Arcana, not Gnosis.

Could an Archmage turn himself into an Idigam or a True Fae?

It would be fun to mess around with Werewolves and Changelings whilst actually being thematically appropriate.

>>54177277
Any good ideas? Merlin doesn't quite work because even if he was in opposition to the Lady of the Lake he was still aligned with Excaliber and it's owner.

Burnout also doesn't quite work for me. Just doesn't feel right.

Any other suggestions?

>>54177302
>haha
>ha

>>54170409

Small industry town where the industry has left, everyone is on government assistance, and there's no hope.

>>54173744
Hollowers specfically say "the minute you bend your knee at someone's altar, you're no longer one of us" in Orphan's survival guide.

>>54173720

Which book is this in? I do recall reading that a demon will basically suck off a mage for their faith but it's dangerous.

>>54177410
Why the fuck would an Archmage want to cease being an Archmage?

Is Demon: The Descent as neat as the 1d4chan page makes it sound?

>>54177669
Ask the one dude who plays it.

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>>54174063
>>54174069

Consorting with Aliens is extra unmutual, citizen.

>>54176974
The Hedge n' Arcadia are both a part of the Fallen World, yes.

Though Changeling fags will deny it.

>>54177700
lol technocrat

you need guns to shoot lasers
my hermetic can do it from his pinky finger

>>54177669
Yes

>>54175820
Are there CofD stats for Drop Bears?

>>54176491
The Taftani actually put a delay on paradox using time shenanigans and leg it back to their sanctum before it runs out.

>>54176647
Gay yiff butt babies. They've done it. They've out-furried OWerewolf.

>>54176664
NHunter is basically CoC

>>54177762
No you can't. Please enjoy your stay in room 101.

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>>54177410
Practice of Entities.

Give yourself the capabilities of both Idigam -and- True Fae.
Though I question where the Archmage would get his Name and Titles from, if not the Wyrd.

I didn't get an answer yesterday.

>Besides generation/blood potence, is there any place where I can get rules for what happens after a player diablerizes another vampire? I have this document http://vampirerpg.free.fr/Rules/Amarantha.html from a quick google search, but I'm not seeing any official rules beyond generation/blood potence change, aura streaks and other bad shit.

>>54178122
Because there really aren't? You gain Generation or BP if theirs is lower/higher than yours, you get access to a Discipline that they have (in Requiem, a Discipline or a skill), and you get streaks and perhaps soul sharding. That's about it.

>>54178122
>>54178180
I mean, you could probably add some flavor shit into it if you really need something extra aside from just the stat boost and the spooky aura. Give them a few flashbacks from the other Vamps life or something.

>>54178180
>>54178255
I figured that was the case. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't some rule I was missing. I just need to know what kind of mechanical benefits diablerie has and what kind of bad stuff results.

>>54170781
Why stop at animals?

Can a HitMark be spirit claimed?

>>54169907
I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of a WoD based Dresden Files game...

>>54178551
It'd probably work better then the clusterfuck that is FATE

>>54178646
>Thinks FATE is a clusterfuck
>Thinks the WoDs rule-heavy Magic System would work better than a rules-light one.

hoo boy

Out of curiosity, what would you rank Dresden? Level 4 Forces, maybe 5 gnosis?

>>54177224
Nah, not if you're going for an anti-Arthur character that will eventually be a traitor. How will you make an anti-Excalibur though? Iirc in the actual Arthurian lore it was just an unbreakable, really sharp sword and Avalon, the scabbard, was the real big deal. I once had an idea to imbue a short sword with Devouring the Slain, plus all the reach so that it was effectively a vampiric sword/mana battery. Are you doing to do something like that?

>>54177414
>Any other suggestions?
You could go with Clarent, the sword Mordred used to kill Arthur.

Reminder that you can't stack templates nor are true fae even templates

Archmagefags can fuck off

>>54178738
>Thinks FATE is a clusterfuck
But FATE is a clusterfuck

>>54174467
Under the soak description it specifically calls soak rolls as a reflexive action.

>>54178837
The Gentry are a Greater Template if we go by the definition set down in Imperial Mysteries.

This isn't Template stacking, it's incorporating them into your own.

>>54178837
Actually their is an entire Practice that allows you to stack or expand templates, and can be used on yourself freely with no Violations of the Pax Arcanum.

>>54178927
>>54178942
yeah no I call bull, sorry

Nobodyu is going to allow any of that. You can ask yourself why no archmage has become every 6+ god

>>54178738
>>54178894
I misspoke. FATE isn't a mechanical clusterfuck like say, Pathfinder or RIFTS™
FATE is a very flawed and kinda shit system that I wouldn't run over the Storyteller System, even with as many issues as it has.

>>54178755
I was thinking Excaliber (or at least this one) is likely a Token, unbreakable with an edge that never dulls, and sharp as a razor. Which grants a power more related to leadership. Making it's weirder more kingly.

I was thinking for my sword a blade that when it slays it rends the soul of its victim creating a soul stone (Spell Soul Jar). It can then burn a soul stone to empower it's other spell Which I am thinking should be something like Devouring the Slain, or Rotting flesh.

Something that will Add some extra horror to the blade like seeing draw ribbons of glud into the blade as it devours the foe. Dishartends the leader as I turn their friends into food to power my spells.

>>54178808
Clarent the coward's sword? To be plagued by cowardice? I'd rather not.

So, Sin-Eaters make for wonderful pirates in a Dark Era game. But what other supernaturals could complete a pirate Krewe?

Alright, someone recommended this system to me and I need your help. I'm trying to run a group of Necromancers and so they recommended the Giovanni clan in World of Darkness. Lo and behold, turns out that's updated, and clan Giovanni is gone. What is the best system to run Necromancers with?

>>54180351
The fuck you mean.

Just play OWoD, Vampire the Masquerade. Get a copy of the 20th Anniversary edition.

Both versions of Mage were a mistake.

Objectively Correct Venue Ranking

GOD TIER
Wraith
Werewolf: The Apocalypse

GOOD TIER
Vampire: The Requiem
Hunter: The Vigil
Changeling: The Lost

ALRIGHT TIER
Demon: The Descent
Vampire: The Masquerade
Promethean: The Created

LITERALLY WHO? TIER
Mummy
Demon: The Fallen

BAD TIER
Changeling: The Dreaming
Hunter: The Reckoning
Werewolf: The Forsaken
Vampire: The Masquerade (Sabbat)

KILL YOURSELF MY MAN TIER
Beast
Mage
Fan Venues

>>54180479
EDIT: Geist belongs at ALRIGHT TIER.

>>54180467
Are you the same faggot freaking out over Archmage supremacy?

>>54180505
No. I just find them utterly uninteresting, and the Magefags and falseflaggers certainly don't help me change my mind.

>>54180540
>What? You mean you don't like a bunch of mary sue self inserts with LE CRAAAAZY magic powers? Wow, fuck you, how dare you insult my harry potter fantasies

Where can I find pdfs of the 2nd edition of Vampire, Mage and Werewolf?

>>54180540
>>54180587

Still better than previous discussions, and more on topic.

>>54170409
If you haven't, give Milwaukee by Night a look

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/212/Milwaukee-by-Night-WW2105?it=1

I remember it being focused on werewolves, but it seems to talk about the Kindred as well. Sounds like this might give you an anchor at least

Do the magefags realize that they're ruining these threads?

>>54180619
In the pastebin, which has a MEGA.

>>54180479

>Good Tier

Werewolf the Apocalpyse but not Masquerade?

You failed son.

>>54182284
*God Tier

>>54181475
It's vampfags actually, and no they don't.

>>54182305

>Vampfags ruin this thread

When ? There aren't even vampfags. Vampire players/STs in the general don't do powerwanking shit. They don't mention their never played NSC and don't do autistic larping.

>>54182571
>Vampire players
>don't do powerwanking shit

Not here. At least not anymore. This has been the Year of the Mage.

>>54182571
>Vampire players/STs in the general don't do powerwanking shit
Yes they do. You were never here for the arguments where they say shit like Caine could emulate Mage magic by making a Discipline to do it that he would have instant mastery over? Guy even came up with a name for it. Aurelium or something. Screeching "YOU LOSE" was a thing for a while too. And that's just what goes on here. Go to OPP forums and you'll see such wonderful things like actively trying to cripple magic by applying logic and science to it.
>They don't mention their never played NSC and don't do autistic larping.
You weren't here a few threads ago when retards were talking about vampires like they were real, and that they themselves were vampires from the games?

Vampfags are the true plight, anon. Either wanking themselves or whining about mages, encouraging magefags and making everything that much more annoying. And then when things get shitty they just blame it on the magefags like they had no hand in it at all.

>>54182672
>Not here

Thats the point. Vampfags here in general don't engage in cancerous behaviour. Ofc there are cancerous Vampfags but they VERY rarely show up in/tg/.

>>54182672

>one autist creating a discipline
>one dubious thread (probably with false flagging magefags)

Come on thats really thin. We had COUNTLESS threads with worse mage powerwanking. Luna enslaved by Archmages was in about 5 threads. Than you constant "Muh just accept mage surpremacy leech". And spare me with larping. Jophiel just was the most recent example of constant mage larping.

Vampire discussions when left alone are mostly civil and productive. Often even offering topics for other splats due to x-over.

Magefags when left alone completely Spiral in an escalation spiral and then blame magefags. Vampfags when left alone mostly talk about their chronics and don't even engage in powerwanking. With an unbiased view its easy to see that nearly always the magefags start shit. They export the OPP-forums wars here.

>>54182794
>Vampfags here in general don't engage in cancerous behaviour
>Vampire discussions when left alone are mostly civil and productive. Often even offering topics for other splats due to x-over.
>Vampfags when left alone mostly talk about their chronics and don't even engage in powerwanking
This is only a thing with Requiem players, a fan base with actual humility.
Masquerade whores breed mouth breathing autists and screeching fat goth chicks.

I've only ever seen those obsessed with the latter fully committing to powerwanking rivaling that of the magefags.

>>54171119
And after they realise everything is mundane and explainable show them the glimpse of supernatural.

>>54182794
>Come on thats really thin.
It really isn't.

>Luna enslaved by Archmages was in about 5 threads
Are you new? It was in more threads than that, and the autist creating a Discipline to beat Mages came up more than that did. It also wasn't the only example. Like I said, "YOU LOSE" went on for a while, among other things.

>Than you constant "Muh just accept mage surpremacy leech".
Be a part of the problem if you want to. Just don't tell me that you aren't.

>Jophiel just was the most recent example of constant mage larping.
You fucking spare me. There is no "constant mage larping" you tool. Jophiel doesn't even get posted that often. I can count the amount of times she's shown up this year on one hand. Vampfags engage in the larping as well.

>Vampire discussions when left alone are mostly civil and productive
Where? Here? Rarely.
>Often even offering topics for other splats due to x-over.
Crossover is garbage, as are the players that engage in it.

>Magefags when left alone completely Spiral in an escalation spiral and then blame magefags.
When magefags are left alone nothing fucking happens. What you're most likely to get is Ascension vs Awakening arguments if they're determined to shitpost. Otherwise they get bored and the general falls into a lull for a while if nothing else is going on.

It's painfully easy to see how new you are. Concentrate on class or wherever you are, mobile poster.

>>54182893

>Hey i like mages.
>Ehm i mean i am super impartial.
>You are just new Magefags never do shit.
>fucking phoneposter

Okay. Grade A-arguments.

>>54182712

Your post just radiates angst and butthurt over some sort of perceived defeat, or loss of self a significant amount of self esteem.

>>54182942
Except he's not wrong.

Vampfags have had their fair share of wanking bullshit. It's a fool's errand to disregard this.

You might as well go to 4plebs and look for yourself.

>>54182942
What defeat could I possibly perceive? How would I lose self-esteem? There probably is butthurt though, because it is annoying to see people bitch and whine about something and then try to deny that they're doing anything wrong, despite being just as annoying and disruptive and feeding the shitposters.

>>54182712
In this forum, over the past few months, a paranoid schizophrenic or extremely fixated autist has developed a conspiracy theory about and persecution complex involving "Vampfags". These menacing, shadowy boogeymen, are, as it turns out, simply the players of White Wolf's Vampire the Masquerade, White Wolf's flagship offering, and one of the iconic names in the history of roleplaying games. Many of us here play said game, and are, to our surprise, part of this conspiracy against said anonymous individual. If you too have found yourself in this exclusive club, welcome, and enjoy the ride. Until he gets his meds, he's going to be severely faggy all summer.

>>54182939
>>Hey i like mages.
Never said I didn't.
>>Ehm i mean i am super impartial.
Never said I was.
>>You are just new Magefags never do shit.
I straight-up pointed out that Archmage x Luna shit was bigger than you thought it was. And you do reek of being new and having jumped on a bandwagon. Thinking that magelarping is constantly happening and that vampfags are totally innocent strongly implies that you're new.
>>fucking phoneposter
You are.

Nice rebuttals.

>>54183021

kek

>>54183021
t. vampfag

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>>54183021
Are you suggesting that a single magefag is behind all of this?

>>54182963

>fair share of wanking

In the Past yes.

But >>54183021 has it exactly right. Magefags NEED Vampfaggotry to justify their behaviour. And Vampefags are VERY rare here. Yes you have some Masquerade players here but they don't engage in splat fagging.

>>54183037
You said that if Magefags are left alone "nothing happens". The ammount of magical realm shit (if a mage fucks a sleeper its like fucking a dog), splat surpremacy wank and larping is obvious.

>>54183066
>You said that if Magefags are left alone "nothing happens"
Nice reading comprehension. Allow me to rephrase, nothing special happens.
>The ammount of magical realm shit (if a mage fucks a sleeper its like fucking a dog), splat surpremacy wank and larping is obvious.
Once again displaying how new you are.

And by what stretch of the imagination do magefags "NEED" vampfags? Nobody will care if you leave.

Ironically vampfags are now shitting up the thread singlehandedly, no magefags required.

>>54183135

nuh uhh it's the magefaga fault

>>54183108
Sorry that i remember the magical realm shit from a few threads ago best.

And your only answer seem to be :
>Muh newfag

You don't even deny that magefaggotry is the problem lately.

>nothing special happens

Yeah thats why ALL other splats here are annoyed by magefaggotry.

>>54183198

>Implying Mage fans aren't sick of magefagging at this point.

Well, the Ascension ones anyway. Awakening mages are addicted to the smell of their own farts.

>>54183198
>Sorry that i remember the magical realm shit from a few threads ago best.
How is disdain for Sleepers even magical realm? There are Mages who look down on Sleepers, especially the Mysterium.

>>Muh newfag
Because you are.

>You don't even deny that magefaggotry is the problem lately.
Yeah no shit, but whining about it is just as annoying and makes it worse.

>Yeah thats why ALL other splats here are annoyed by magefaggotry.
Bold statement. Even in this thread when Changeling was being shit on, I didn't see their players come out of the woodwork screaming and crying about magefaggotry.

>>54178917
oh, well seems abit weird but i suppose using willpower to reduce damage is a thing, you just grin and bare it, similar to using it to ignore wound penalties.

Building a Legend has been released. Anyone wants to share so that we can see how they fucked up this time?

>>54183262
Yet it's Ascension Archmages who get wanked the hardest.

>blow bubble
>it pops
>good-bye universe

As an actual newfag, who didn't post in this general until some months ago, I have to say that I've almost never seen those "vampfags". On the other hand, magefags are all over the place and any interaction with any other splat always ends on endless wanking. The fact that vampire players sometimes awnser with more wanking while less popular splats don't is irrelevant.

Dunno if it was different in the past. But what matters is what is happening now and, to be honest, this general has killed my interest on playing mage. It didn't happen with any other splat (except stuff like Beast).

>>54184048
This.

Magefags always come up with Vampfaggotry that happened back in 2008.

>>54184048
Nice blogpost.

>>54184068
>2008
What? We had vampfaggotry going on not even a dozen threads ago.

>>54184073

>someone offers his experiences that are topic related
>muh blogpost

Quickly reaching the point where magefags don't even try justifying.

>>54184083
No, we did not.

>>54184094
This. And nobody would complain about magefaggotry if it would happen every dozen threads. Atm it happens in 75% of the threads.

>even when magefags aren't posting fucking jackasses keep the focus on magefagging
Holy shit, shut the fuck up. You need to jump off a cliff right behind the magefags.

>>54184094
>he wasn't here when vampfags cried about magefags while larp posting

>>54184091
>muh magefag
Please die. If you're going to keep going on and on about magefaggotry when it isn't even happening, you're just as bad as a magefag. And if you reply to them and feed them, that also makes you just as bad. Shut the fuck up. Nobody cares about your experiences, and when they're about magefagging it might as well just be shitposting.

>>54184149
Not even him faggot.

>>54184159
It still applies to you, faggot. Instantly jumping to magefaggotry. Thank you for being a part of the problem like the rest of these whiny little girls.

So how bout that new CTL preview? Spooky shit.

So I've always had a big hang up with mummy and that hang up is "Why the fuck is Egypt so important"

So, /tg/, why is Egypt and their judges of duat so important that they have an entire splat dedicated to them?

>>54184465

The Mummy as a horror icon rose thanks to Egyptomania and the Universal Monsters series, which was based in Egyptian trappings. That's it, that's all, but to Curse's credit, it's easier to break away from those once you dig into the cosmic horror aspects, which don't become entirely clear until the splat books. It's a lot less heavy on Egypt than, say, Resurrection, which was hyper focused on Egypt despite lip service to other kinds of Mummies at the end of the core.

Also, Dark Eras 2 Kickstarter is up. It has a Deviant skull reveal and will have a Deviant setting right in the core. Is it safe to assume that Deviant had begun its first draft?

>>54184386
I love the Year of the Plague sample fey. It's a nice departure from the standard idea of a Keeper, and really drives home how alien a True Fey can be.

>>54184525
Seems like. I'm kindof interested to see how Deviant turns out, just hoping it's not quite so much of a trash fire as Demon turned out to be.

>>54184599
>Demon
>trash fire
Nigga u w0t?

>>54184632

He better be talking about DtF

>>54184675
Or confusing it with Beast for some odd reason.

>>54184632
Ack, fucked up, meant Beast. It's been a long morning without coffee

RIP Stewart Wieck

>Among many other things, he was co-founder of White Wolf, co-creator of the World of Darkness and former Chairman of V:EKN

>>54184775

He also prevented Brucatto from committing suicide.....nobody's perfect

i miss atamajakki

>>54184127
I don't think you understand what larping is.

>Dark Eras 2 has been on Kickstarter all day
>you fuckers are all too busy shitposting to talk about new content

I hate you all.

>>54184972
Not really much to talk about. "Hey there's some settings that look cool if OPP doesn't fuck it up somehow."

>>54184972

Do we really need more dark eras? It's neat but i don't see why it's a priority

>>54185028
I'd figure he meant the new changeling content, otherwise he's a dummy

>>54184972

People really like arguing about Mages. It's like Aspel leaving opened the floodgates and now people are addicted to it.

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>>54185129
So are aspel and Atma gone forever, did they learn their lessons?

>>54185168

Aspel left for Twitter cause of some drama on another board that was so big I guess they decided to stop posting on this board too. Atamajakki's still around, just on the OPP boards mostly.

I assume the lesson we all learned was "Identity and Geopolitical politics fights are more fun than WoD or CofD, but what's even more fun is arguing over Mage power levels."

>>54185250
Oh Atma is still on OPP forums? I thought she left because of uh, fuck boy, David hill leaving because Zaky is a bully (Maybe???)

>>54185168

atama quit CofD and is activrly boycotting the company.

>>54185313
Why not enough tranny mummies?

>>54185378

>>54185297

Yeah, she still posts there, I wanted to see if Deviant hit drafts and I saw her in a Dark Eras 2 thread.

Still no confirmation if Deviant has hit drafts, unfortunately. Was really hoping for an open call for that one, but I'm not going to be mad if it doesn't get one.

>>54183871
Its just chronicle building advice. Its probably the best beast book out that isn't the hunter supplement.

>>54184972
>Trash book with a mix of 1e and 2e rules
What's to talk about? How Rich is still mismanaging OPP by not making updating to 2e a priority and putting out half assed trash material that doesn't work?