Codexes incoming

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>>54166112
Tatakae!! tatakaundayo!! kate nakya....shinu......kate ba ikiru...tatakawanakereba katenai...

Any rumor anons have any word on what the other 6 before Christmas will be?

>SM in July
>after that is CSM
>based on some quick math, assuming regular spacing between the 10 codexes by Christmas, my CSM book could easily come out on my birthday
Thanks for being so thoughtful geedubs.

What are the chances they put all Astartes in one book to speed up the process even more? Im glad I wont have to wait much for my Black Templar rules and the new big boy boxnought.

>>54166112
>Chaos Legions

Cawl's rolling out Traitor succesors or are CSM being included?

>>54166416
maybe some, but not all as shown by the Grey Knights reveal

>>54166416
>>54166485
>I just bought Index: Imperium 1 – what should I do with it?
>You’ll want to keep hold of your index. Codex: Space Marines doesn’t include rules for playing with Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Deathwatch or Grey Knights armies, so you’ll still need Index: Imperium 1 to play with those. You’ll also need it for using some of the more unusual models such as the 30th Anniversary Space Marine, the Legion of the Damned and the Terminus Ultra Land Raider.

>If I have a Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Space Wolves army, will I need to buy Codex: Space Marines to use my army?
>You don’t have to. Other Space Marines factions not covered in the new codex will continue to use all the datasheets, rules and points values in the index until their own codex is released. Rules for new models not covered in the index (like the upcoming Redemptor Dreadnought) will be available in the box with the model and matched play points for these units will be made available online.

>>54166368
Advance happy birthday, ya fuckin' Heretic

>Every major faction will be getting a codex.
No Sisters then.

>Is every army getting new models too?
>[...] we’ll get to all of you eventually
No plastic Sisters then.

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>Imperial Agents will probably be last
>New SoB/Inquisition units never

>>54167054
Please no anon. I want to believe.

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>>54166112
>sell indexes
>then announce and start releasing actual codices less than a month after the start of the new edition, after everyone had already bought the indexes
>make double the money

Classic GW.

Wait, I thought the whole thing was that we were NOT getting a codex for each faction and the whole point was all you needed was the indexes for the new edition??

>>54167712
What, you bought all that nuGW crap?

>>54167712

Nah, it was just so every faction/models had rules out of the gate.

Also obviously to sell more books.

Remember though it's mini sales where they make the money, need individual codex launches to pimp faction minis.

>>54167731
Well it seems like an enormous double backing flip flop.

The WHOLE bullshit was that all you needed was two or three £15 books to play most of the setting.

When was it announced we are getting Codices?

>>54167765
Today.

>>54167765
the indices have ALWAYS been a stopgap from when they were announced. They're just a way to allow you to play your army in the new edition without having to wait up to (or more than) a year for your codex to release.

>>54167571
>indexes were released so everyone would have rules for their units and get right into playing
>announce from day 1 that codices WILL be coming later in large batches
>people buy the indexes anyway, because they want to play
>somehow, this is some master plan

>>54166112
Dark Mech fucking when?

>>54166416
Nigga read the fucking articles

>>54167765
i thought the incodices existed to do one thing, put every single army into 8th without anyone going "but my rules are all 7th!"

So all the shit that is listed in that picture is not available in the index?

>>54167795
You all paid for your $125 in Indexes like good goys? NuGW thanks all (You)
t. Based Roundtree

>>54167765
>When was it announced we are getting Codices?
In the Pre-8E FAQ. The indices are a stop-gap so every army had rules as soon as 8E was released. This was always very explicit.

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>>54167765
Nigger they have always said that codices were going to be coming out later they just never said when. Indexes were there so everybody could play sttaight away and continue to play until your army copped its codex.

I thought the indices were IT.

Every GW employee I talked to said that this was the entire edition in those books. One of the only positive things about this edition was the idea that all of the slop and baggage for looking at starting a new faction was gone.

What the fuck.

>space marines
>grey knights
>chaos space marines
>death guard
>blood angels
>space wolves
>thousand sons
>dark angels
>chaos daemons
>talons of the emperor
>..........
>......
>.......100 new imperium releases
>craftworld eldar
>tau

Being a xenos or mortal human player is suffering

>>54167967

I don't why people think this, codices were always coming, indices were just "start playing now with your minis"

>>54167967
They were never going to be it, and I'm fucking glad, they're currently the real problem with this edition. Shallow, poorly written rules with no flavor or thought put into them. I mean, would I be happier if we got all the faction rules in full depth for 100 euro? Yes, but I'd also be happy if forgeworld started charging reasonable amounts of money for anything and GW unveiled new SOB models, but that's never happening. If they fuck it up as bad as seventh, where you need five army books to run an admech army, then yes, they did fuck it up, but I'm hoping these codices will be straightforward "this is the entire faction in one book with all the flavor and depth you need".
We will see.

>>54167967
You're a moron. Every single article and FAQ regarding indexes said that they were just there to bring every single army into 8th and that codexes would be start releasing very shortly after.

This makes me wonder if most of the hate directed towards GW is just retarded children who don't understand basic concepts.

>>54167967

Anon, they released an article explaining Codexes a month ago. Previous to that, nearly every article that referenced FAQ or other about the Indexes mentioned that they will be replaced by Codexes, and that Codexes were coming out, their rules superseding the Indexes.

We've known this almost since the inception and leaks of the Indexes themselves. How have you not?

>>54167765
>When was it announced we are getting Codices?

Since day 1.

>>54167967
So you never bothered to read the rulebook!

>>54166112
I wish that hideous Inceptor wasn't in the background to ruin the whole cover with the crime of its existence.

>>54167799
Angelus, ie 2019
That's the FW Soon! Promise you can count on

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>>54166112
is this how 8th ed dies?

>new rules representing specific sub-groups in many of the major factions; these range from old classics like the Space Marine Chapters or Chaos Space Marine Legions to returning rules for individual craftworlds, as well as previously unexplored groupings like Necron dynasties and Adeptus Mechanicus forge worlds.

Is this going to be that same AoS argument about having to paint your minis specific ways in order to take advantage of the rules you want?

>>54167765
But you do only need 2-3. But you can have more.

>>54168423
It does seem a bit bizarre. For space marines or chaos legions it makes sense, but for, say, ork clans, they are actually quite seperate to WAAGH!s, there are only a certain set number of ork clans who collaborate in WAAAGH!s, so any one army would be part of a WAAAGH!, but contain orks from many different clans working together. Hence we already have some weird-ass rules, like if you wanted an orks army from one clan you wouldn't be able to take Ghazghkull and Grotsnik together, despite Grotsnik never leaving Ghazghkull's side, and the only reason Grotsnik is still around is becasue anyone who tries to get rid of him falls under Ghazzy's ire. But nope, Grotsnik is Deffskulls and Ghazzy is Goff, so they can't be taken in the same army if you want to use clan rules.
Then you have the fact that most tau septs have 0 flavor, with only t'au, vior'la, and the enclaves really ever being mentioned outside of "look at all the septs" pages in the codices, so any rules made up for those will feel a bit arbitrary.

20 man intercessor brick soon

>>54166112
>codex space marine
>chad on the cover
Oh boi, it has begun

>>54168260
Take that back you cunt, it's easily one of the best space marine models gameplay wise and with a simple dome becomes a NASA marine that looks <FLY>

>>54168423
eh it's always been a thing for space marines, only homebrew schemes got to pick and choose
they could give my valhallans the worst trait ever if they even give us one and i'dd probably still use it unless we get a "create your own" table like the steampunk dwarves in aos
this edition has made matterw worse when it comes to choosing a faction thanks to restraining named characters to their respective homeworlds/chapters etc

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>>54168312

No, it dies by being unbelievably shit.

>>54167903
>conspiracy theories

>>54168583
Can't wait for the Eldar book where De are going to be in back with exactly 0 kabals outside of the current "pick a kabal or coven" shit while we get specific rules for fucking iyanden and ulthwe'.

>>54168799
source ?

>>54168799
why the fuck did you take a screenshot of a picture on your phone
I can't tell who the tau are fighting because of how small the damn photo is.
All I can really do is respect the amount of drones that guy has, they're deceptively difficult to buy in bulk.

>>54167712
GW got paid. You seriously think they give a shit once the money's left your hand?

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Wake me up when DEldar get the codex

>>54168924

>CAN'T WAKE UP

>>54166112

Codices, you inbred fuck.

>>54168799
sauce faggot. I want a decent download

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>>54168946
>First 4 are different flavours of Space Marines
>They'll be a codex for every first founding chapter
>They'll probably be a codex for most of the legions, if not all of them
>Plus Deathwatch
>Plus Golden Boys
>Maybe Guardsmen squeezed in if they're lucky
I mean, Orks will probably get a look in early on, but the starting lineup and that upcoming event confirm this will be Space Marine verses Space Marine Edition.

>>54168312

Yep, if they starting adding detachments again then it's fucked. GW does not have the time or talent to in anyway balance them, if they revert back to this I think it'll be another write off like 7th.

>>54168743
No. It's an ugly model made even worse by the horrific leg posing.

>>54169195
Any detatchments in this ed would be like the FOCs that are in the book, different command points for different required setups. Like maybe a white scars one that gives the same points as the 6 required troops but has 6 required FA.

>>54167799
I think Warpsmiths have the Dark Mechanicus faction so here's hoping!

>>54168870
wouldn't any tau player worth is salt have a decent amount of them ?
both fire warriors and crisis come with two per boxes

I wonder if the bonuses for an all-<Regiment> army will be enough to justify the Atlas Repair Tank over a pair of Techpriests.

>>54168260
I imagine him flying around and making juvenile airplane noises with his mouth.

>>54166112

Yes, subfaction rules for all armies m8. You are't misreading that. I swear if they don't do them like the new flyind dwarves in AoS where you have the main ones and then a table to create your own unique ones i'm going to shank my local redshirt.

>>54167799
In Forge World we trust. Check the IA: Chaos.

>>54169195
There are no detachment A, they said this already. Only Strategems, Relics, WTs, and rules for keyeords. Lets hope they make-your-own-chapter tables like they did for Squats.

>subfaction rules
>chaos legions???
>but of course we still need special codices for units of wolf wolfs on wolfs and the turbo super elite dark warrior angels

lmao this guy has our 10 releases this year for sure >>54168102

>>54175473
>What is Death Guard
>What is Thousand Sons
Why the Hell are you getting your ninnies in a twist, they showed us fucking 4, one of which has never had a Codex.

>>54175473
You stupid sack of shit, DG/TS/EC/WE are getting their own codex and there'll be a generic codex for Chaos vanilla. Its in the fucking article you mongrel.

>>54175513
>>54175565
Yeah wouldn't it be silly if the list I quoted had those chaos marines on it? I guess I missed the part where they definitely confirmed we'd be getting shit like necrons, eldar or anyone else who isn't a marine THIS YEAR.

I am happy for you that you get your dark angels codex soon though, there's no need to get so defensive about it.

>>54175980
Right after you point out to me where it says codices don't have legion rules. Like maybe, I don't know, the fucking OP.

>>54167712
they never said that

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>>54167054
Just eat like 50 doritos locos tacos from taco bell and you can make some new Shitsters of Basshole right away, no need to wait!

>>54176645
need to dial it back a notch friendo, looses its kick if you do it too much.

Most likely release order for the other 6 books:

Astra Militarum
Tyranids
Orks
Blood Angels
Necrons
<Chaos Legion>

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>>54180865
If T'au isnt the first i'll eat my fedora.

>>54180988
T'au will be one of the last to be updated.

They want them to continue driving sales of the Xenos Index 2 after Nids and Orks already have their Codexes, and they were updated too recently to be anywhere near in the running for one of the books coming out this year.

>>54166416

Helbrecht is out of stock so lets pray for a new model

>>54180988
>>54181017

I wonder where tau will place
They aren't one of the forgotten and left to languish factions, but also GW isn't going to focus entirely on shit no one cares about.

they aren't really releasing chas marines codex with that art, are they? Hopefully it's just a placeholder.

>>54181151
None of those arts are placeholders, you scrubs. They're showing you the same marketing pictures they took to put on the websites, White Dwarf, and so on. The books are already gone to printers.

>>54181198
fuck yeah good, I'm all for having the same fucking art on the cover I don't give a shit I want the new rules right fucking now

>>54181151
>>54181198
>>54181333
>Use Blood Gorgons art for three editions in a row
>Dont make Blood Gorgons an official warband
>Actively make new warband with their paint scheme instead
>Give them an entire supplement codex just to rub it in

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>>54166112
>First we will release marine codex
>But don't worry, marine, marine, and marine codexes won't be far behind!
I'm not even surprised.

>>54181749
Sorry that nobody likes trannies

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>>54181783
IG and Deldar player, actually. But nice to see you triggered over a reaction image on 4chan, lel.

>>54181791
lol nobody likes trannies either way

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>>54181816
You should really calm your inflamed rectum there, turbo. That's not even in the discussion.

>>54181749

The leakers were all wrong
Shockingly
So what comes next is a mystery

>>54181824
lol no matter how mad it makes you nobody likes trannies

>>54166112
>only Primaris get to be on the cover
Manlets on suicide watch.

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>>54175565
It kind of seems like Alpha Legion always gets the shaft. Finally get some interesting rules and GW removes them from the book 3 months later.

FW also gimped Renegades for no reason.

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>>54181749
Honestly, what about the Death Guard is so extensive that they need a whole other book to give them rules? Are you telling me there will be absolutely no overlap? Same with Space Marines, Grey Knights I can at least understand, but do the Blood Angels or Space Wolves have entirely unique units for every bloody unit type?
It's as ridiculous as if they had a separate book for every Hive Fleet tendril or each Ork clan. Yeah, they'll be differences, but they're ultimately just Orks and Tyranids

>>54182032
They're making them into a unique army ala Grey Knights because the new book pitches them as totally unique from other space marines.

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>>54182032
How about Guard regiments? If anything THEY should be getting special books and units.

However, GW will always pander to Space Marines first, even if it completely fucks over their other players.

Also how about chaos? I can see why the legions get their own books but multiple have literally been cut from the rules. Would love some word on them instead of more fucking deathguard.

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>>54182099

>>54182113
(you)

>>54176645
Lacks subtlety, over the limit of basic punnery allowed for the length of posting. Toilet humor.

0.5/10, needs work... and effort... and sentience.

>>54166416
I hope they do. The average FLGS has always been cluttered with countless books and boxes for all different coloured speshul mureens of the rainbow.
Honestly I got god damn sick of seeing THIS CHAPTER IS THE BEST CHAPTER snowflake marines a long time ago and if it were up to me; there wouldn't that much difference between the colour of Timmy's marines and what they do on the table.

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>tfw a namefag starts posting but you have them all filtered and will never ever read what they've written and there is literally nothing they can do about it

>>54166586
well fuck.
Brace yourselves for marines of every colour plastered wall-to-wall in every shop

>>54182161
No chance. They'll make a generic army codex for Space Marines to start, then they're going to give special snowflakes like Dark Angels and Space Woofs their own.

>>54182099
Actually a good point. Would be refreshing to say the least.

I see no reason why Chaos cant or shouldn't have multiple books. Tzeentch got its own Battletome in AoS.

>>54181017
Die in hell faggot.
If they dont update tau commander for 2 years it will plague every table on earth

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>>54182202
and Marine players (or their parents) will buy each book anyway

>>54182190
>tfw a namefag starts reading your posts but then they start replying to you.

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>They contain a wealth of inspirational background, artwork, heraldry and miniatures photography for that army,

Had anyone EVER bought a codex/book because of miniature photography? It seems like something they're pushing as a selling point/using as filler to make up for a lack of real content

>>54166112
With all these new books to buy, why havent you started into cloning your minis /tg/ ?

>>54182249
But if you didn't have dioramas of the minis in poor lighting arranged so you can't see them very well how would you know how to paint your army

>>54182249
>Had anyone EVER bought a codex/book because of miniature photography

Yes because back in the day before YouTube was any good (and still now sometimes) it's much easier and better to see the official painted mini's in detail and up-close.

I always appreciate the part of a codex which explains the different colour schemes. For example, it was definitely one of my reasons for recently purchasing the Sylvaneth Battletome.

>>54182273
you can do that and even zoom x10000 on the free pdf tho.

>>54182227
>>54182190

i think you are chasing ghosts man, no namefags here

>>54182249
>Broken Legs: The Pants

>>54182099
> THEY should be getting special books and units.
But they wont. Enjoy you decade olds plastic kits with monkeys on them or your full metal with deprecated equipment regiment.

>Codex: Space Marines will be swiftly followed by the Space Marines and Space Marines with Space Marines not far behind. (Yeah, you read that right – the Space Marines are getting their own codex.)

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This thread is evidence that you idiots needs to stop taking news from /tg/.

There's real people in this thread that weren't aware of real codex coming. How is this possible ?

Listen to the podcasts, use the warhammer community page, read a minute of front-line tactics.

EVERYTHING on /tg/ is misinformed, outdated and often jarbled together with 'hopes and expectations'.

The era of "expectations" is gone. EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about warhammer 40k 8th edition is TRANSPARENT, you don't need to rumormonger anymore. Just go out there and read and listen.

Wake up, go to a REAL warhammer site where REAL playtesters and GW spokespeople are literally changing the game based on your input.

Use /tg/ for funny 40k pictures and meme armylist, use the real warhammer community to change the fucking face of warhammer 40k.

Thank you. Vote pink.

>>54182610
GW uses fucking T-W-I-T-C-H now to spread news and make hype.

Rumors are DEAD.

The era of enclosed 40k sub-communities sharing gossip is over.

You will always be wrong. You will always be behind. You will always lose.

UNLESS; You get with the times and get the word straight from the source;

GW and their affiliates.

>>54166112
Aww shit, relics are returning.
I wasn't a massive fan.

>>54182778
Chaos relics were awesome though. Looks like chaos wins again

>>54173513
Yeah well, chinamen and the new breed of 7e riptide&stormsurge spammers happened.

>>54182799
Yeah they were good, we had a good few ones for SW.
Just didn't like them though, it's a balance between cool customization and creeping back to bloat. I'm a bit paranoid of the latter admittedly.

>>54166112
Space Marines - chapters (that are not BA/DA/SW)
Chaos Space Marines - legions (that are not DG/1KS/WE/EC)
Astra Militarum - regiments
Adeptus Mechanicus - forge worlds
Necrons - dynasties
Asuryani - Craftworlds (I wonder if Biel-Tan still gets rules LOL)
Drukhari - Kabals, Wych Cults & HaemoCovens?
Tau - Septs (do these really differ?), maybe w more detailed Auxillaries (Kroos/Vespids/whoever)
Tyranids - hive fleets (same...do these really differ?)
Inquisition - Ordos (are we finally getting Sicarius rules?), maybe other impoerial agents (Assassins, Psykers, Custodes & SoS)
Orks - clans
Chaos Daemons - (khorne, nurgle, tzeentch, slaanesh, undivided)

So what else?

Adepta Sororitas - convents?
Harlequins - make-your-own-troupe rules?
Genestealer Cults - make-your-own-cult?
Knights - I doubt the houses are getting rulesets

No sub faction:
Grey Knights
Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Blood Angels (unless successors get slightly different rules/wargear?)
Death Guard, World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Emperor's Children

>>54183036
>Assdeptus Shitsenioritas
Probably rules for how well your units pass as female

>>54170201
>>54169195
I think he meant Formations.

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old GW
>£10 codex
>£25 rulebook
>White Dwarf and Black Library were well-staffed and filled in the gaps in the fluff in-tone with the rest of the universe

The lauded NuGW
>£25 codex
>£40 rulebook
>£20 "alliance" book
>oh wait, half your units and that new plastic kit you like are in this £20 codex supplement
>£30 campaign book (2 of 3) has that formation you really want to use for 500 free points in it
>shit, I might as well get some £2 Datasheets too for my old characters
>"b-b-but they're hardback and full of He-Man stories written by a Design Studio that can't even afford 2000AD castoffs anymore!"
>White Dwarf is still basically a catalogue, not as bad as a few years ago but nothing like the old days where they might even dare recommend non-GW terrain

>>54182032
>do the Blood Angels or Space Wolves have entirely unique units for every bloody unit type

Dunno about Blood Angels, they're pretty Codex-adherent...but wolves?

and these aren't just name-swaps. a lof of them get different powers/roles in the fluff.

>No captains/commanders, Wolf Lords
>No Techmarines, Iron Priests
>No librarians, Rune Priests
>No chaplains, Wolf Priests

>veterans/command squad/terminators -> Wolf Guard
>tacticals -> Grey Hunters (normies)
>devastators - Long Fangs (oldies)
>assault -> Blood Claws (noobs)
>scouts -> Wolf Scouts
>bikes - swiftclaws

Same Units
Dreadnought, the tanks/transports, land speeders

Unique Units
anything riding a Thunderwolf
anything which is a wolf
fucking Wulfen = Possessed

>>54168113
>This makes me wonder if most of the hate directed towards GW is just retarded children who don't understand basic concepts.
Replace "GW" with just about anything and you've described the internet. And a fair bit of real life too.

>>54182099
Well, most of our guard regiments don't really have different units except for special characters and maybe special rules. So no real need for different books, just regiment rules.

Cadians - normal
Catachans - normal-ish, no big stuff
Valhallans - conscripts up the wazoo
Tallarn - ?
Attilans - rough riders

Mordians - ?
Vostroyans - ?
Praetorians - ?

Armageddon Steel Legion - transports
Death Korps of Krieg - need crazy moral rules
Savlar - need chem rules
Elysian - need drop rules

Storm Troopers

Most are just slight differences that can be accommodated by our current army list anyway.

Stuff for expansion?

Ogryn dependent regiment
Ratling dependent regiment (or just plain abhuman)
lotsa commissars
HtH (will this work? It might)
subterranean-specialist regiment (inb4 GSC)
arty-themed regiment (with guns on carriages/towed)
Sentinel (and mecha) themed regiment (with Sentinel AT-AT)

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>>54182610
>REAL playtesters and GW spokespeople are literally changing the game based on your input.
>GW
>changing the game based on our input

>>54176645
Maybe you should start a thread explaining what you dislike about them, like an adult would.

I mean, unless you're a literal 12-year old, which may explain the calibre of your posting.

>>54176645
faggot
>>54182155
autist

>>54181849
lol so bad haha theyre all men how could you like them xD

>>54183340
Well I don't think anyone actually does, that's the joke

>>54183215
Do you think R&H will fall under those?

>>54167903
>le jus maymay
kill urself

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>>54183036
>Patiently waiting....

>>54183517
>Ordo Socjus Initiate.jpg

>>54183575
B...but anon, consensual sex IS rape.

>>54183590
I was almost harassed out of the assassination industry for being a woman

>>54183615
No wymyns no kids.

>>54167712
They said exactly the opposite since day 1. They said they were rolling out with a cheap stop gap book that had all the rules for existing models to tide us over till our Codex comes out. Which they mentioned the fact that indexes were temporary stop gap measures. Every time they brought up the indexes.

>>54183215
Maccabian Janissaries - Moral rule/stubborn
Brontian Longknives - Melee Guard (hahahaha)
Harakoni Warhawks - Jump/Jet packs

Those are the others I remember. Other than that you could have a cavalry themed one where every unit is mounted. So command, special, heavy and veterans all have horses (this could genuinely be just a +X points per model upgrade). In fact, most of the unique stuff can just be an upgrade option to an already existing unit in the Grenadiers vein.

>>54183036
>Adepta Sororitas - convents?
They have six orders that the rest are descendant from, but they're all the same with a different personality (I'm calm, I'm moody and I'm angry).

Since I'm one of those mass customization guys I think Adepta Sororitas should fall into an Adeptus Ministorum rule book where you get Sisters, Crusader Houses, Frateris Militia and stuff like fanatics, Arco-flagellants, Witchunters and even mobs of rabble. That last one is because I like the idea of a huge mod of meatshields with terrible stats rushing the enemy being led by a Joan of Arc like Sister of Battle (a la Arthur or that infinity model) using acts of faith to buff their attacks or something.

>>54183687
But nobody gives a fuck about shitsenioritas it would be a waste of paper

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>>54183698
0.5/10, you get the .5 because it's so bad I feel the need to point out just how out of ballpark you are

Try reading it so you tailor your post the one you're trying to troll.

I said there should be an Ecclesiarchy codex. Not a Sisters codex

>>54183036
Gsc would probably be hive fleets again, do they signal specific hive fleets?

>>54166112
>Subfaction rules for all armies?
I haven't read everyone's index rules yet, but from what I can see, apart from like Genestealer Cults, or pre-existing subfactions like Grey Knights, doesn't every army have a <CHAPTER>, <REGIMENT>, <HIVE FLEET> equivalent?

>>54183779
Well at least we can agree that nobody likes the Assdeptus Shitsenioritas so they only deserve book space in the far back corner of some shit book nobody will ever read

>>54183838
They do. This, to me, is why I find it silly they can't just put most of them in the same book with a couple of extra units when necessary and just use the keywords for special rules