Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1595: Dinosaurs are Cool Edition

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>>54164654
You'll never be as cool as a triceratop humping a robot tho

>>54164710
>Implying I havent been a triceratops humping a gynoid robot while wearing shades

>>54164654
The symbiote jump, is based on what exactly?

>>54164735
The Symbiote web novel.

>>54164735
https://farmerbob1.wordpress.com/

>>54164654
No arguments here. What dinosaur jumps do we have?
Jurassic Park
Lost Valley of the Dinosaurs
German Hollow Quest
Carnivores

>>54164735
The web novel of the same name.

Going through the "Kamen Rider Heisei Part Final_ Decade Jump" Gauntlet, does "Kamen Rider Strongest" just let you switch between the various suits/gadgets with the Decadriver, or does it merge them together?

I want my character to experience life as every available alien from mass effect.
Where can I get a power/spell that will let me do that?
Needs to work both during the jump and later in the chain.

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>>54164748
What three species would you choose for the Special DNA perk in Jurassic Park? They can any dinosaur-like species you've met.

>>54164790
animorphs

>>54164654
What is the most noticable trait when people first saw you jumpers?

>>54164804
I dunno, I have a lot of freckles.

>>54164804
A spirit of a long dead war general constantly challenging people to duel

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>Like all Tyranid biomorphs, the Bio-Titan seems to be able to mutate its genome rapidly, evolving new organic weapons and defences.

What's this about? It's on the wiki so it may be untrue, or just fluff, but is this something nids can do over the course of an invasion or is it just talking about how nids can spawn different types and swap out their organic gear?

Pic related is how big the Hierophant Bio-Titans supposedly are, about 15m tall, and the wiki says the flying version, the Harridan is supposedly 30m long, and the Dominatrix not that kind is apparently the biggest bio-titan so may be larger than either - considering Norn Queens use them as tanks and mobile command centers that's about right.

Regardless, is this about the sort of size increase that the Bio Titan perk gives? Making a human grow to 15m+ and other things even bigger still?

>>54164795
Zerg-Deathclaw-Dragons.

>>54164748
Dinotopia.

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How do you see nature, Jumpers? A greater order to revere? A cruel, uncaring force to be afraid of? An imperfect chaos needing to be tamed? Or just a tool?

>>54164913
The All-Father of the Omniverse

I've created a lot of cuckolds and single mother households

>>54164846
A bit of both I think.
Tyranids alter their bodies ever so slightly so as to be more suited to the environment.
Like, if they are attacking an ice world, they will be change and create units that retain their heat better. This fact is what makes building anti-Tyranid virus weapons such a bitch to build. Forcing armies to either hunt down things like spawning pools or first-gen planet invader Tyranids if they want to build a virus that can affect the Hive Fleet.
That line itself is probably there to infer that the Bio-Titan is not stuck with whatever it first gets, as I think Nids can change out their weaponry because, while they do fuse to them, they are actually separate organisms (at least in the lore I read).

>>54164942
That makes sense, and explains part of why they are so terrifying. From a biological perspective they always have home turf advantage.

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>>54164795
Tough one.
Raptors for the speed, toe claw and brains.
Godzilla.
And maybe something crazy from Monster Hunter, Digimon or Pokemon.

>>54164804
Walking down the street, probably my eyes. I put a lot of upgrades into my eyes.

>>54164913
I view each world's 'nature' separately. Some places, it just is. Other places, it's your worst enemy. Most places, it's an ally and a resource, but not one that I like to call upon.

>>54164955
Yeah, they're also a bit like orks is that once they land they are a bitch and a half to git rid of completely.
Even if you managed to get rid of the Hive Fleet, it could take years to remove all Tyranid life from the planet.

Can Tyranids create diseases and infect the locals through Genestealers, spores, whatever? Seems like that would be more effective than just trying to drown the enemy with bugs.

>>54164846
Nyds do it over the course of an invasion.
In some of the fluff books Lictors can evolve in a single generation and somehow communicate genetic information back to the hive fleet so it can start the adaption process before the swarm is even in position to start landing.

I don't remember what book it is but the chain of events is something like this.

>Lictor arrives on planet and realises after it's first kill the cold is a problem.
>It absorbs the genetic information from local fauna perfectly adapted to the cold.
>It goes into a cocoon and adapts to the cold while transmitting the information back to the hive fleet.
>The hive fleet starts manufacturing cold resistant nyds, but sends the dregs of it's last invasion down so be slaughtered/killed by the cold while probing the planets defenses.
>Less than a day after the dregs are sent down adapted Lictor starts hunting high profile targets and the fully adapted cold resistant partially camouflaged invasion force arrives.

The adaption process took weeks but that happened in transit to the planet.

>>54165000
They do, but the Imperium's Space Marines, and the fighting forces of most star-faring races like the Eldar and Tau, are perfectly capable of keeping hungry hive fleet ships away from the planet from sealed bunkers, orbital defense platforms, and from inside sealed armor suits.
Even the Imperial Guard can be equipped with filter masks en masse that will hold out for a while.

So the bugs have to go in to take out the defenses and stop any resistance that might try to sabotage the hungry hive ships as they feed.

>>54165000
Right now the only infection thing I know the Tyranids have is with the Genestealers which use their Tongue Ovipositor (Yes, really) to implant a parasites into people. *Cough*Facehugers*Cough*

>>54164846
Someone should invent a time machine and bring domesticated dinosaurs into the 41st millennium.

>>54165100
Don't Exodite Eldars already have those?

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Are there perks that let you pull off speaking in an incredibly dramatic fashion?

>>54165106
Those are alien dinosaurs, humies need home-grown Terran dinosaurs.

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>>54165100
>>54165106
>>54165111

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>>54164913
> A greater order to revere?
That one, I guess. I mean, I'm not going to tell you that nature is nurturing and kind. Nature made bears, and bears are godless killing machines. But it's an ecosystem that can provide you food and resources and operates more or less independently. Also, it's pretty.

Actually, my favorite architectural/science aesthetic is solarpunk, which generally attempts to emulate the feel of or work in harmony with nature.
... but when I think of science, I generally immediately think of Atompunk, like, Fallout-style mechanics and things, so I think it's a sortof ideal that I as a jumper want, but am not too great at realizing.
At best I end up creating harsh looking factories that just so happen to be surrounded by trees, like some weird juxtaposition between nature and machine.

>>54164804
I've got like twenty cute perks, so probably how much they want to pat my head.

>>54165109
"Dramatic Ham" from the original Sonic jump.

>>54160168
>They wield potent psychic powers but are unaffected by the daemons of the Warp, a condition that would indicate a lack of a soul at the individual level for most Tyranids

From the wiki. Looks like Soul Devourer probably won't work on Tyranids.

>>54165195
Just go for Orks.

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>>54164804
Atrociously loud fashion sense. I mean-purple with red hair? I wouldn't be surprised if even all the charisma perks couldn't cover up the instinctive urge to call the fashion police on me.

>>54164795
I'm pretty sure I went drop-in, but if I had: Deviljho-Yoshi-Archdragon

I'm mainly curious how the Yoshi DNA would express itself.

>>54164913
A bit of all, really.

It depends from world to world, but as a professional necromancer there's one thing I'm damn sure about nature: The part where things die is just as, if not more, important than the part where things get born. It can be pretty. It can be useful, and awe inspiring. But above all else, nature paradoxically strives by settling into fixed patterns-and then breaking them apart.

Like a spiral, never in the same point twice but always going forwards.

I suppose that's why my instinctive reaction has always been to direct it somehow. Try to turn trees into cyborgs or raise up dead ones as the more well preserved kind of zombie-hivemind, see how well lions take up ninjutsu or piracy. It's why I invested heavily in nanotechnology-because to be fair, there's a massive amount of energy going round the average rainforest. And it frustrates me that most of it seems to go into mating, or eating, only trying for something better when given literally no other choice.

But, on the other hand-curare's a great medicine as well as a poison. So these days, I just swallow my kneejerk reaction and try to look at it as a sort of brute force experiment.

Actually, I'm always a little surprised in worlds where nature DOES turn out to be fundamentally benevolent because there's a friendly hippy goddess of playing nice, pulling the strings. It's just so...jarring. Like finding out some watchmaker MEANT for his watch to be a little broken.

>>54165271
Do Orks have souls in 40K? Aren't they fungus?

>>54165382
In the same way humans are meat, yes.

>>54165382
Don't they need souls to be a psychic race?

>>54164846
That's pretty small.

>>54164846
>the Dominatrix

What were they thinking when naming that one? Seriously, was that an in-joke or something they hoped the kiddos wouldn't look up?

>>54165727
Warhammer 40K has always had raping demons and raping space elves that acted and dressed like dominatrixes, what's your point?

>>54165746
Well, when you put it like that. It still seems strange they'd name a giant bug not related in any way to those after one, though.

>>54165727
It's literally just a feminizing suffix on a verb to make a feminine agent noun.
Ruler+Female=Dominatrix

>>54165755
> It still seems strange they'd name a giant bug not related in any way to those after one, though.

How do you know it isn't related? What if some Norn Queens got together, had a kinky party, and created the Dominatrix?

>>54165727
The Dominatrix is the biggest Tyranid ground unit controlled by a mindless drone that effectively functions as a direct conduit for the mind of a Hive Queen, just in case she feels like she needs to direct the battle herself. It effectively gives perfect directions and coordination to all the surrounding tyranids without needing to relay them through a synapse creature that may or may not perform them perfectly. So in that sense, the name works in two ways. One, the Dominatrix helps a Hive Queen DOMINATE the Tyranid ground troops on the planet, and two, the Dominatrix is a vessel for the ruler of the Tyranids.

But yes it's also a sex joke. 40k is full of references and jokes that fly over people's heads.

Gor Saga Jump when?

>>54164790
World Seed - druids can do that and more. They can take the form of pretty much anything alive after studying it for a while.
And unlike Animorphs it doesn't have a time limit, though Animorphs shifting potentially comes with memories.

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So in a fight between my zerg army vs a tyranid army which is more likely to come out on top?

>>54166220
Well first off you should probably define "army" a little better, because to the Nids the default military unit is "hive fleet".

Assuming roughly equal numbers, broadly speaking-the Zerg have better air support, a lot of their units adapt faster and much better combat engineering, while the Nids have much more raw psychic power, their individual units tend to be physically better and more durable (barring exceptions like the undying Ultralisk), and their firepower generally hits harder.

I'd say it really depends on the kind of battle you're planning to fight. The Zerg are more suited for hit and run, asymmetric warfare-maybe making use on a third party species as hosts and architecture.

>>54164748
Ark Survival Evolved.

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>>54164913
Obsolete. It was an effective and necessary mechanism to create intelligence and life, but survival of the least inadequate is inefficient and unkind when applied to sapient beings.

Nature is just eugenics without oversight. Because there is no one to blame, people are more likely to become resigned to the problems which crop up, to turn a blind eye to the lives ruined due to genetic disorder or any other such natural failure, instead of taking steps to correct them. This is nothing short of tragedy.

Mythological nature tends to have the same problems and also be insufferably narcissistic at the same time, lacking even the excuse of being a mindless system. It makes for excellent eating, though.

>>54166220
The Tyranid army more likely, because they have a wider genetic base to create their guys from and generally have larger numbers/stronger guys.

The Zerg would still put up an admirable fight though, and if a Jumper is leading them then they probably could win anyway. Especially if you used genetic engineering to improve upon the nastier of the zerg units.

>>54166220
Do the Zerg Cannocially need minerals and vespene? Because Tyranids only need biomass.

>>54166282
> a lot of their units adapt faster
You sure that's not just the Feral Zerg? I got the impressions that the Hive Zerg needed to rely on beings like Abathur to add/create new strands for the Zerg.

>>54166282
>barring exceptions like the undying Ultralisk
The Tyranids have their own equivalent with units like Old One Eye, a Carnifex that can regenerate from mortal wounds.

>>54166332
I was thinking of things like Scourges eventually being spawned from Leviathans instead of larvae directly. Or for that matter, Hydralisks being able to turn into Lurkers for being better bio-snipers.

Whereas from what I'm told, the 'nids need a couple generations to get anything done. Presumably if anon is leading an army of them, he has a system at least like what the Cerebrates have to coordinate the Zerg.

>>54166220
Realistically what would happen is they would become zerganids, that would likely be controlled by the tyranid hivemind.
>>54166332
Canonically Zerg can use biomass just fine, they just happen to harvest raw materials because biomass isn't quite so abundant as they would like. The nids themselves though leave planets rather depleted, they likely take more material from a planet than the zerg do.

As for zerg adaptation, they only need cerebrates, queens and abathur to control their evolution, they evolve and add new strains naturally. Anything they infest actually becomes a new strain of zerg, though they tend to take time to properly refine them, but even normal dogs got infested and became a real threat to some terrans.

Overlord(series) jump question here. Tireless, long game, and world champion all have discounts applied to them by the warrior background, yeah?

>>54166413
Yes.

>>54166413
Yes

>>54166363
One Eye is supposed to be a one-off, a unique Carnifex that its hive keeps regrowing because he's that its Norn can't replicate for some reason.

>>54166422
>>54166427
Thanks. Doing some cleaning of jumps to make sure I did them right, just got 100cp back.

>>54166365
They only need a couple gens (Which is a couple weeks at most) to adapt to the planet. The Hive Ships are already filled with and generating units units that they are send to the ground in giant spore-pods.

>>54166403
>Realistically what would happen is they would become zerganids, that would likely be controlled by the tyranid hivemind.

Depends on what the Hivemind has to fight. I could see the Overmind holding it's own, not so much for anything lower than him though.

>>54166403
>Hive Fleet meets up with some Zerg, even some Primal Zerg.
>The horrifying sound of a Norn Queen squeeing is heard echoing throughout the Warp.

>>54166403
>>54166484
I thought we were just talking about anon's army of zerg. See, I told you guys we should've figured out exactly how many nids we were fighting before we picked a fight with the whole damn hivefleet

>>54166220
Why not fuse em?

So in the league of legends jump, how fucked am I if I choose the Shadow Isles drawback and take Kindred as a companion?

>>54166531
You can't just rush into into. You have to clash at each other first. Show some emotions and passion.
You can't just skip the foreplay and go straight to sex.

>>54166484
The nid hivemind is just too big for even the overmind to manage, and it would depend on their connection. A nid fleet can be cut off from the rest of the hivemind, if one was I can see the zerg overmind, or even a skilled queen managing to hold their own. But if there is a connection to the wider hivemind of the nids, then I don't see the zerg putting up a fight with anything less than Xel'naga Kerrigan and that's questionable.

>>54166575
To be fair, it seems like Hive Fleets generally don't share information between each other, which is part of the reason why they can have different bioforms/strategy from one another (The other being that they're all controlled by Norn Queen(s) who have their own personalities and decide all of this) so the hivemind being restricted to a per-fleet basis wouldn't be unreasonable.

>>54166575
>Xel'naga Kerrigan
That never happened!
Kerrigan was killed by the ghost of Praetor Fenix!

>>54166575
>doubting Metzan's waifu

She was last "seen" making life miraculously regrow on planets reduced to rubble, he'll just have her pull the power to neuter nid reproduction out of her ass, along with her Super Xel'Naga Rose form.

So how do they stack up against a mother fleet from hive queen quest jump?

>>54166630
Hard to say, hive queen uses both biomass and tech but they can flat out convert tech to biology in a stupid fast amount of time. Provided a hive queen is around they may even win, until the nids get their hands on a ships genetic structure.

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>>54166630

>>54166508
The big thing is Zerg get absolutely rekt'd by anti-psychic anything in canon. The Tyranids own Shadow in the Warp, even aganist a Swarm controlled by a Jumper would wreck havoc. Then you'd have to worry about the greater Hivemind trying to turn the Swarm aganist you.

>>54166630
Norn Queens are far less competent than a Hive Queen, and their creations aren't as advanced/efficient/varied/'neat' design wise, but a Norn Queen and her fleet reproduces way faster and is far more destructive in nature. So I give it to the Tyranids by sheer virtue of overwhelming numbers.

>>54166651
The Hive Queen really needs time to prepare and birth herself a galactic-scale fleet, though. Sure if she gets herself some Imperium or Eldar tech and enough time she'll kick ass, but Tyranids have size, momentum, and reproductive speed on their side.

>>54166658
Worth noting that the actual size here is artistic.

>>54166682
>artistic size
I almost thought you were talking about the picture of the coloured tyranid. And was going to mock you fiercely. Almost.

>>54166713
Who knows, maybe someday a dying 40k will introduce stupid shit like that just for more sales/attention.

>>54166713
No, that Tyranid is to scale because that's a Jumper in Nid Form that has finally achieved ultimate HUGE!

>>54166660
Shit, that's a good point. Normally I'd point out it's different types of psychic energy and all, but from what I understand the Shadow is just pure nid hungriness jamming everything so I imagine the Zerg would be pretty messed up.

>>54166630
Listen, if you want a lifeform that can go toe to toe with the nids and come out on top? Get all the cloning tech you can and grow some Vajra from Macross, or use the tech in Knights of Sidonia to grow a swarm of Gauna or Chimerae.

The former can reverse engineer black hole-like weapons by sight, have better FTL, can resist mental inteference to some extent given they kamikazi'd against their own queen when she was hijacked and UNINTENTIONALLY created a bioweapon while trying to communicate with a non-hivemind. And if it has to be said-the airborne/spacefaring Vajra make the Nids' look like either a joke, or a slowpoke with a glass jaw.

Meanwhile the Gauna are a fair bit slower-but the average ones have tanked shots that can burst a Jupiter-like planet. Are basically space shoggoths that react fast enough standard procedure is to snipe them from miles away. Can sense things hurtling at them from the assend of the planet they're on, and can clump together to form a massive clump rivaling planetoids in size.

>>54166660
That gets into metaphysical interactions of each form of psychic power. The warp itself would fuck over the zerg really hard, because almost all of the hydralisks would suddenly find a god in Khorne. As far as Psychic power in Starcraft, it's actually a special kind of skill to use energy from another plane of existence, and not how psychic powers normally function. So theoretically the shadow in the warp would have no reason to have an effect on them, because it's just a lot of activity in the warp, to the exclusion of other forms of activity.

Should point out-slower than the Vajra. I'm not up to date on how fast nids are, but I'm pretty sure they had problems with FTL and the Gauna are fast enough to outpace the Sidonia's bullshit fast (like, Mach 50ish) mech-jets.

>>54166797
Sidonia has a jump?

>>54166876
Yep

>>54166890
>>54166876
Oh wait, hang on.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/50203511/#50210095

Could you use the Fourth Magic to emulate the First by simply destroying the nonexistence of something?

>>54166962
No, the two are incompatible.

>>54166962
No, because True Magics are neither free lunches nor no limits fallacies even though they are very poorly explained (by Nasu) and defined.

>>54166962
Maybe, you might also try to emulate the Fourth Magic with the First by summoning an object's complete destruction.

Alright so which option in the Tyranid jump would make me a hivemind, or closest to one?

>>54167070
Pretty sure that the Scenario gives you the ability to transform into the Hivemind itself (at least for a particular fleet).

>>54167070
Norn Queen, then pick up any command & control/psychic boosters you can. Maybe the 600cp Genestealer perk to make you a Super-Duper Norn Queen aswell.

I know that the Jumpmaker has been gone for a while, but does anyone know if the Religious Heroes from Age of Ice Part 2 become Companions?

>>54167070
>>54167092
>>54167108
Then jump the Imperium jump, pick Space Marine, and become a Dorn Queen.

Do Tyranid psychic powers draw from the Warp or is it a self-centered field like with Orks?

Mostly just wondering if my Tyranid psychic powers will meld with my Psyker powers from other 40k jumps.

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Questions about an item from Princess Bride.

Are written works, including fanfiction, able to be used in the Adaptanator?

Also, can the Adaptanator be used to obtain video game versions of non-video game forms of media?

Like say putting a cartoon DVD into the Adaptanator and getting a video game out of it?

>>54167125
As I remember, I think that was the idea yeah

Does anyone have a picture of the magic armor and mecha from Mushoku Tensei? I have no idea what they look like and Google gives me nothing.

>>54165163
>bears are godless killing machines.
You do know that bears mostly eat roots and berries, right?

But nature did make plenty of scary shit. I mean, it made sharks and those ARE godless killing machines. Even if they normally don't prey on humans.

It also made mosquitoes and that's enough reason for anyone to hate nature.

>>54167136
Self-centered field. They produce something called a "Shadow in the Warp." They normally can't even detect/see purely Warp-Spawned creatures like Daemons.

>>54166207
That sounds like what I wanted.
I'm not familiar with the source material, is it any good?

>>54164913
Nature should be revered and enjoyed, but most of all it should be mastered and used. Survival of the fittest and all, because ultimately, sapient beings are the fittest of all and claim the crown of the universe.

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>>54167140
>including fanfiction

This is getting weird.

>>54167178
Sharks are just big fish, really. Hordes of them scatter at the mere scent of a killer whale.

Unless you mean all fish are godless killing machines, which is true enough.

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>>54166332
>Because Tyranids only need biomass
Not entirely true. Yes, Tyranids can produce soldiers just with biomass, but to build their ships they need to strip a planet of all their resources. All the water and all the minerals that they use to make their biomass.


>>54166556
>>54166531
Isn't that how Fleets react to each other? They fight, and the winner gets all the biomass and mutations of the loser, without losing too much of itself.

>>54166220
Full scale? I would say Tyranids. they usually involve bigger numbers, and the Tyrants and psychics seem to be in a bigger league. Oh, and there is also the fact that a full Tyranid invasion means filling the entire atmosphere with Tyranid-bacteria that fuck with the entire ecosystem. And I would see that in a battle of evolution, the Tyranids have evolved faster from worse situations. They have survived Nurgle's plagues, after all.

In a skirmish... It would depend on the exact units and who is in command. The Queen of Blades against a Hive Tyrant would probably be a close battle in favor of the Zerg.

>>54167092
The scenario it's pretty pointless in my opinion. You need to wage a large war without most of your powers for something that you can do if you get a technology and biology perk and combine Sup Comm with the Norn Queen perk line.

You could have a bigger fleet that the one that devours the entire galaxy in a few months if you are only using that. Add clonning tech and some time manipulation, and you probably can pull it off a few days after you arrive.

>>54167219
I'd say so, yeah. I certainly enjoyed it.
You can read it for free online, here:
https://royalroadl.com/fiction/4242/world-seed

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What are some times you won by accident?

>>54167198
Ah, so my powers will not only not work together, they'll actively interfere wirh each other?

>>54167244
Orcas are dolphins and are capable of higher-order thinking and intelligence. They may be killing machines, but they're intelligent and even capable of forming bonds. Also they're not fish.

Sharks are driven by instinct and a lot less intelligent. Orcas are scary by virtue of being fucking huge and intelligent, but more predatory sharks are scary by virtue of being near perfectly evolved predators for their habitat.

>>54167237

It's part of a roundabout way of getting a specific version of a certain character as a companion.

>>54167140
Novels work. Video games work. Fanfiction counts as a subset of novels, just ones that aren't professionally published. But fan products can be amazing, polished works; AM2R comes to mind.

As a general rule of thumb, if you can find a real world adaptation from one medium to another, that conversion is generally valid. In the end, you as the writer have to do the heavy lifting to imagine and describe any such product of the adaptanator.

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>>54167411

So fanfics work, huh.

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>>54167411

Thank you, good sir.

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>be Conduit od the Force
>make the entirety of 40k Force Sensitive
How long until it all burns?

Posting a question on the Generic Dungeon Builder jump. Under the boss customization section, it mentions a "Stronger" perk, but I can't find it in jump. Is it referring to the stat boost option?

>>54167477
I'm not sure it could make 40k any worse.

>>54167268
Yes. The Tyranids 'Shadow in the Warp' will actively fuck with your Pskyer abilities. I assume post-Jump you can Toggle it though, allowing you to fuck with other people's powers when you don't want to use yours.

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>>54166713
>>54167092
>Wanting to be a giant hive-fleet
>Not becoming a galaxy sized multidimensional monster using only perks

Stay pleb.

>>54166962
Even if you could, I imagine it'd be ludicrously inefficient to do so.

>>54166962
You can do that in Sburb. And it's way easier to do it so.

>>54167267
That question reminds me that, if we ever get a Simpsons jump, there needs to be a Pulling a Homer perk that lets you succeed despite idiocy.

>>54167443
Like I said: fan products can be amazing, polished works. I mean, a shit story with shit characters and a shit setting... the Adaptanator will just find the best adaptation. The quality of the source material will influence what you get.

Put another way: the Adaptanator is bound to find something that is still objectively an adaptation of what you put in, warts and all. That said, All You Need Is Kill get adapted into Edge of Tomorrow, and there are other adaptations like that. (I'm sure there are people who didn't enjoy EoT, but personally I found it to be in many ways improved from the source material.)

Ultimately, the heavy lifting is on the Chain-author. I think that my goal in creating any Jumps is to expose readers to new potential actions? There was nothing stopping a Chain-author from creating their own production company, or using their awesome powers and perk backed creativity to create an adaptation, or to simply find that the parallel world a Jump takes place in has media variants not found in reality. What Adaptanator does is provide a button that says "It exists. It is as good as it can be." but that's actually so little; but it is freeing and a sort of permission to jump to the end product that exists in your imagination that doesn't really properly consider the difficulties in making and funding and selling that game. So I hope people think about "what would my favourite book as a movie be like, or a game?" and that they'll share some of that.

>>54167514
It would make everyone (besides maybe Exodites and Necrons) into Sith.

...you're right, no one would notice any difference.

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Are there any creatures other than Spyro dragons that produce, radiate, or amplify magic?

>>54166908
>122 pages.
Is anyone making a different one?

>>54168166
Just ship the Scenario, you illiterate faggot.

>>54168236
It's too long either way.

>>54164804
When I'm not pretending to be normal? Either my glowing eyes that have weirdly shaped pupils with spinning irises and a band around the iris that spins in the opposite direction or my rainbow hair that ripples with different colors and looks like its made out of individual strands of color rather than hair.

When I'm pretending to me normal its how unusual I look. Olive skin with natural blond hair along with yellow eyes and primarily Caucasian features with a little bit of East Asian mixed in is a bit unusual.

>>54164913
Red in tooth and claw.

What are the must haves from the symbiote jump?

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>>54168166

Just read it fag.

>>54167760

White Abum 2 Jump when?

>>54168695
A Symbiote, which is free, and the boredom immunity. Also the Symbiote injector if you are male or want to be giving symbiotes to non humans.

>>54167357
Who?

>>54168731
>Symbiote injector if you are male
Lewd?

>>54168789
Only female Symbiotes can reproduce, by having their host touch someone, and Symbiotes are the same gender as their host.

There is an item however that does this without needing a female symbiote and also bypasses the potential problems of a human symbiote trying to pass one of its children to a non-human. Which I am to understand could go badly.

What are perks that make people want to worship you?

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What are some perks that are best taken early so they snowball later on?

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What are the best jumps to pick up a Monster Girl waifu?

>>54168920
Harem perks.

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I'm going to ask again. Is there anything outside of the Endbringers in Worm that could harm someone who went through the Third Magic Ritual? I need to find something that's a legitimate threat to my jumper other than in Worm because it's just one jump. This is boring.

Also could Goetia's pillar demons from F/GO harm someone who went through the third magic ritual?

>>54168716
>White Abum 2 Jump when?

Unpack this for me, please?

>>54168920
Stuff that scales with time.
TVD Immortal, D&D dragons, Generic Xianxia's Living Saint, other stuff that i don't remember.

But frankly you don't actually need all that. You get enough power in jumpchain anyway.
What i like to pick up early is companions, at least my "core team".
Like you probably want to go to Narnia early for stuff like Heart of a Child and Preservation of Man, but if you want your companions to last long term you totally want to take them with you so they can get those perks too.

The rest is kinda irrelevant.
Sure, you want to pick up something that keeps you from dying to something stupid and ending your chain, but that just means some decent regeneration and disease/poison immunity and maybe some plot armor if it's on the way.
More specialized defenses or continent-splitting magic can wait until you've picked up the quality of life stuff, and that's usually things your companions would certainly appreciate too.
So regen first, then companions, then everything else.

>>54168972
Third Magic is an outside context problem, nothing can prepare against it. Goetia's pillar demons don't have anything special to destroy a Third Magic Ritual user with.

>>54168972
>Worm
Maybe the powers that do interdimensional stuff as part of their effects, rather than basic mechanics, like Sting? Also: Master/Stranger shit. If you're going soul mode then powers like that won't do shit, but if you're too comfy with a fleshy puppet to drop it on the go people with those abilities could have you commit self-harm.

>Goetia
They've got biggatons but I have no idea if that nonsense about being a higher order of being is hype or truth. I'm inclined to say they could figure something out with enough time.

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>>54168934
Slice of Life.

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>>54168934
Monster Girl Gamu! jump when!?

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>>54169069

I remembered WA2 while reading your post.
That's all to be honest.

>>54169118
>that nonsense about being a higher order of being is hype or truth
It's bullshit that wouldn't even make sense in context. Just because their master has control over the root of magic doesn't mean they're a higher order of being.

>>54168887
Respect of the Divine from Spice & Wolf.
The Serenity capstone from Exalted Sidereals.
The cultist origin perks from Exalted Infernals.
Actraiser may have some too.

Does anyone know who wrote the Symbiote jump?

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Jump #375: Green Lantern - The Animated Series
>Five of Pentacles (Worry), reversed: Stress is met without resorting to excess or the pursuit of oblivion.
This... actually is a nice change. This is actually exactly what I've needed for a while, I think.
>Location: Mogo
>Identity: Tough Guy
>Species: Corgi
This jump is why I went corgi in Nintendogs.
>Bruce Timm'd (Free)
I refuse to look at this as a drawback. The art style is too perfect.
>Blue Lantern Ring (Free)
If there is any particular emotion that I feel would be best to embody, it's hope. Willpower is all well and good, but without hope for a better tomorrow, you might as well just bang your head against the wall.
>Indomitable Emotion: Hope (x3) (800)
Hope burns bright.
>WHAM! (Free, Tough Guy)
Hey, never underestimate how determined a dog can be.
>Fight Smarter AND Harder (700, Tough Guy)
The stronger I get, the smarter I get. The smarter I get, the stronger I get. This one has interesting implications.
>Won't Stay Down (400, Tough Guy)
Well, of course I won't stay down. I still have hope that I'll prevail against whatever opponents I'm up against. Whatever strange twist of fate I find myself bound within. Whatever may come between me and the end of my chain.
>Lanterns Assemble! (0)
One lantern is good to have, but effectively having a mini-corps of my own is better. Especially considering the rest of the DC jumps are right around the corner.

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>>54169263
Full-on Hope Corgi. There are no stops on this train. I don't think it's really necessary to detail every last thing I do while I'm here of course, but I plan on going everywhere and ruining literally everything with a combination of precognition, clones in the right place at the right time, and absolute absurdity.

What's that? Someone was set to kill Kyle Rayner's girlfriend? Nah, I got hungry and ate his pudding - through a set of improbable coincidences, Alex DeWitt is fine, but Major Force seems to have tripped on the sidewalk and broken his neck, and boy wasn't literally everyone surprised. What's that, there's a rage cat running around spitting blood everywhere and making a mess? I bet he wants to play, let's have ourselves a merry chase across the entire sector! The Green Lanterns are dealing with heavier threats than usual this month? I'll run up to them, get petted and look generally adorable, and incidentally use my presence to overcharge their rings so they can hit harder, run longer, and so on. Not to mention the passive buffs I can give them simply by being there. There's more to hope than the color blue, after all, and to think otherwise is silly. And since I have perks that let me be in more than one place at once, I and my clones will be running around spreading hope everywhere. Not to mention the efforts of my companions, too!

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>>54169281
But why go to all of this trouble, you ask?

Hugs.

I'm a dog. I like hugs.

But you knew I was going to say that, after all.

Is there a 'best' order to do the final fantasy jumps in?

>>54169385
Not really, they all link via altrrnate world shenanigans but they are all seperate.

>>54168972
>Is there anything outside of the Endbringers in Worm
I doubt that they could. You are a spirit now and they don't have any magical powers.

Maybe they can PtV you if you don't use magic to stop them.

>>54169385
Not really. They're for the most part separate, and the ones that aren't have regular sequel naming after their number in the series, so it's easy to know which ones to worry about.

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>>54169385
Start by doing none of them.
Final Fantasy a shit.

>>54169385
In order.

Except wait, I think X is kinda-sorta-implied to be a distant prequel to VII?

Fuck it, do 8 Bit Theater first.

>>54169385
Related question, what about a best order for the Megami Tensei Jumps?

>>54169514
FF1 first and 8-bit Theater last. Book ends, boyo.

>>54168920
Dark Sun sorcery
Speaking of which, is there any way to speed that transformation up?

>>54169514
>Except wait, I think X is kinda-sorta-implied to be a distant prequel to VII?
If it is it's completely irrelevant in-setting, so it doesn't really matter.

>>54164942
didn't it take like hundreds/thousands of their invasion force dieing to register they needed thermal storage? Not saying thats a bad thing, I'm sure hundreds or thousands of creatures die between one stage of the year too, the winter.

>>54168884
It's technically possible for symbiotes with male hosts to reproduce, and it's possible to give symbiotes to non-humans, but without the injector it takes effort.

Symbiote code is customized for the potential host's DNA and molecular biology. Symbiotes with female hosts know the gist of how to rearrange the code to work in another member of the same host species right off the bat, but males would need to reverse-engineer it or copy a female's notes. Putting a symbiote in another species would require at least as much work again.

>>54169212
I don't think he ever took a name. Same author as Terraria, though.

>>54168972
Yes, there's plenty. Especially in worlds with magic or supernatural beings. Doctor Strange, The Spectre, Magik, Angels from Supernatural, Celestial Exalts, D&D Wizards, Mages from either WoD, etc. You're really wanking the Third Magic too hard. Yes, there are plenty of people it can straight-up no-sell, but beings that can harm you aren't impossible to find.

>>54169385
Start with one, then tactics advanced and mystic quest, follow that with six, seven, eight, eleven, and finish with 8 bit theatre

>>54169514
>Except wait, I think X is kinda-sorta-implied to be a distant prequel to VII?
Sort of. They don't take place on the same planet, though. Turns out that Shinra was from space. No, really. Final Fantasy 7 is set in a future of Final Fantasy 10 where people from Spira have developed space travel and colonized other worlds. Kind of makes me wonder if Jenova was like Deus from Xenogears, not actually an alien but a malfunctioning human-made terraforming machine.

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Do you offer or sell augmentations or technological/supernatural gifts to the common people when you enter a Jump?

>>54169936
Offer...force upon...same thing, right?

>>54169936
Usually I just leave the offer on the table for specific individuals, but if they get mortally wounded and I like them, I take matters into my own hands.

>>54169936
I have a potions shop that follows me automatically if that counts (from Overlord).
It also comes with a "this is normal" field though, so no interesting shenanigans.

I don't even have to do anything, they just set up shop somewhere and start selling healing potions and the like.
Cure Disease potions are rather popular, seeing how they cure any and all natural diseases.

Read through the last few threads and I just wanted to say I'm still alive, though neat whale bardo idea. Got some stuff I needed to do immediately, these courses are great and all and I'm getting more done via not taking time off but dear god this is draining.

....

Anyway! Not dead yet!

>>54163688
Sorry, I fell asleep. Yes, I do mean the actual pagan gods.

Will I have to deal with anyone except Uriel?

Any idea what would happen if I take Broodlord and the Scenario in Tyranids jump?

>>54170391
Nothing. Body-based abilities are disabled until the scenario ends, as you don't have a body.

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>>54170502
I wonder what happens with things like telekinesis, magic and other soul-based abilities. Do all the Tyranids under our synapse gain those abilities, can we manifest them through Tyrants or do we also lose them?

>>54170502
Alright thanks, dunno how I missed that.

>>54165727
The Warhammer games have Slaanesh. I doubt they felt the need for subtle or hoping that kids don't look things up.

>>54170537
I asked Val that. Anything that doesn't require a body to use you keep, but directing them through the hive mind is difficult due to you being spread out over half a galaxy and you'd need to work on your fine control to be able to target things effectively. For actively-used abilities, anyway. Passive effects and internal effects just apply to you as usual.

>>54167268
No, and that anon's full of shit. The Tyranids use the Warp to communicate and travel, and if anything, the Shadow is evidence that their psychics are Warp-derived. Not to mention Soul Devourer and the being its based on, the "Doom of Malan'tai", gained strength from feeding on psyker souls. It's also possible that Zoanthropes are improved by the addition of Eldar DNA.

[s]Is this the correct way to type strike out text?[/s]

>>54170926
Dammit.

>>54169865
I thought only extradimensional attacks could hurt you? Also thanks for assuming I'm stupider than I am by shoving all those examples I know in my face.

Outside of the Tyranid scenario and the Planetary Consciousness perkline in Alpha Centauri, what options do we have to become a proper hivemind?

>>54170959
Oh right, and I have soul protection. Nothing can touch my soul. Forgot to mention that.

>>54170926
like this

>>54170926
Hit CTRL S

>>54170959
No, that's not the case. It specifically says that "though it is imagined that any attack that targets the soul would be capable of harming and destroying this new form of being". The "can only be harmed by extra-dimensional attacks" is mere speculation. Also, you're the one taking offense at being given examples when you fucking asked for them. That's not mentioning the fact that if you actually knew them as well as you say you do that they're capable of "extra-dimensional attacks" or such tricks are meaningless to them, assuming those are even necessary in the first place.

>>54170972
The perks from Hive Queen Quest, Prototype, Resident Evil, Zerg, really anything remotely biologically based. I think there is one in the Librarian (fuck knows what its called, about magic books and making stories real or something) too.

>>54171087
That is a spoiler, not S̶t̶i̶k̶e̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶t̶e̶x̶t̶

>>54170926
g̶o̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶t̶t̶p̶s̶:̶/̶/̶s̶a̶i̶j̶o̶g̶e̶o̶r̶g̶e̶.̶c̶o̶m̶/̶s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶-̶t̶e̶x̶t̶-̶g̶e̶n̶e̶r̶a̶t̶o̶r̶/̶ ̶,̶ ̶t̶y̶p̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶t̶e̶x̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶o̶p̶y̶-̶p̶a̶s̶t̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶p̶l̶y̶ ̶f̶i̶e̶l̶d̶

>>54171110
>Librarian (fuck knows what its called, about magic books and making stories real or something)
Libromancer is its name.

>>54170972
There's the Hive Mind option in Stellaris.

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>>54168934
daily life with monster girls jump

>>54171110
>>54170972
You can also be a hivemind of worm in both Nightmare Before Christmas and Fate/Stay Night. And I think you can do the same with other insects in SMT.

>>54171142
Close enough.

>>54169125
>Succubus

Too cute.

So with Protectors of the Plot Continuum in play can we take the invistext perkline from the Wonderious Vault seriously now??

>>54171269
You mean the non-invisitext perkline?

>>54171289
Nah I wanna kill the Sues anon.

>>54171316
No, John, you are the demons.

>>54169912
You think they'd mention if they had space travel tech.

>>54171269
SB seems to. And so does the jumpmaker.

>>54171316
Yeah, but it's the non-invisitext that brings you to Mary Sue land.

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>>54170303
>Anyway! Not dead yet!
Yay!

>>54163739
>This just put a smile on my face like you wouldn't believe.
Keep on Truckin, OriginAnon!

>>54171369
You'd think. Weird contradictions like that are what happen when you retcon two games into one continuity a decade after either of them has last been relevant.

>>54171215
I'm disappointed, because I think a modicum of skill would have let you get an acceptable slice-of-life jump out of the setting.

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>>54169263
>>54169281
>>54169300
Cute.

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When it gets to the point where we can summon people with the first magic is there any loyalty from those we summon or do we need to get perks for that?

>>54171545
If you can exert any type of control over what KIND of people you summon, couldn't you just summon people who are loyal to you?

If your skill isn't high enough to shape their personalities, then yeah, I'd say you'd have to worry about loyalty.

There's also the ethical issues of creating/summoning people out of nowhere, so take that into consideration before you try to make a Saber harem.

>>54171545
You don't need perks. Just make them loyal to you. Once you get to the point of creating them it's not like it's difficult to pop them into existence with an irresistible inclination to obey you.

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Besides Earth's Mightiest Heroes, are there any jumps with powers that let me absorb/assimilate technology?

>>54171621
Kantai Collection has savage salvage.

>>54171598
Look on the bright side anon. Nonexistence is an illusion. Is dying in your name really that bad? They're not actually ceasing to exist after all. They're just losing their physical presence.

>>54171661
>nonexistence is an illusion

Wasn't that the other way around?

>>54171692
Wouldn't one being an illusion implies the other one is too?

>>54171661
That makes me wonder if you could revive people by using one system of magic to summon their soul while simultaneously using the first magic to summon a new body for them.

>>54171621
Fairy Tail has Machina Soul.
You'll have to fanwank it from the description though, because the one time it showed up in the manga the user got her ass kicked before doing anything with it.
It's an S-Class magic though, and it sounds awesome, so there's that.

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>>54171708
Maybe?

>>54171545
Now that I think about it, has Valeria ever said how difficult it would be to just create new abilities for yourself? Thinking about Vector Manipulation here. I'd assume you'd need to be at a level where you can just pop out whole planets like it's nothing.

>>54171708
>Existence is an illusion
>Nonexistence is also an illusion
>Literally the entire world is an illusion
>We can only perceive the world through our imperfect senses
>There is no meaningful difference between reality and a perfect illusion
>Therefore, illusion magic is reality warping
Really fires up the ol' membrane.

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>>54171743
>cool ability shows up only in one scene and the user doesn't even get to use it

JUST

>>54171621
Worm

Update never happening

>>54171754
Are you the anon who's been obsessed with getting Accelerator's power for like a year?

>>54171785
We all know Fairy Tail is shit, frankly. I don't think I can understand his mindset on these magics, if it was me I'd have a really strong desire to show off the cool new power my character has at least once, instead of having them get their ass kicked immediately and never shown again.

>>54171821
Mashima cares more about fanservice, we all know this.

He's actually gotten letters asking him to tone it down and get back to the story.

>>54171819
Nah, it's just the first ability that came to mind. Probably because it's mentioned so often.

>>54171841
I can't believe that desu. Peoplo who read FT up to this point are in it only for the fanservice, because there certainly is no plot to be found.

>>54171621
There is one in Kantai Collection although some anons are kinda against using old jumps that have non-canon based abilities.

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We know where to get the biggest dragons, but where do you get the smallest dragons?

>>54171897
>We know where to get the biggest dragons
We do?

>>54171867
>a time travel conspiracy plot conducted by dragons and immortals has just concluded and the bbeg is about to be defeated by an entire guild using the power of friendship

Look, titties is a big part of the appeal, but FT does have a cast of characters who have distinct histories and relationships. Does everything resolve itself once the current stumbling block on the road to friendship is overcome, granting a power boost to the characters? Yes. But what do you expect from a Shonen manga? Friendship is power levels, anon. Embrace it.

>>54171960
It's pretty shit even for shonen though. Which is a shame, because the setting and characters had potential.
I can deal with a certain amount of fanservice, but if i just want to see manga tits i can read hentai.

>>54171821
On one hand you're right. On the other hand that kind of thing can lead to Bankai Syndrome where all of the characters feel compelled to release their Bankai/use their super special new powers because the artist has to squeeze it in somewhere. Eventually you get burned out on special powers when everybody and their grandma has one and has to spend several chapters showing it off. It loses all emotional impact.

>>54171507
Are the only two places where you can get a CP Lantern Ring currently the DC jumps Green Lantern the animated series and the Marvel Comic jump?

The one discounted item, is jumper the only one who gets that, or do companions also, like for them to purchase a 2nd lantern ring of a different color themselves?

>>54172050
> the Marvel Comic jump
I want you to think about what you just said. Hopefully you'll realize what's wrong with it.

>>54172050
>DC - Any color except Orange, White and Black
>Green Lantern - Green, Violet, Red, Blue
>Injustice - Green, Yellow

I think YJ had a GLR item, but it was removed.

>>54171090
Then how can magic touch me, then, if I have ascended to a higher dimension? Without involving dimension magic? You could have just said 'magic can still harm you' instead of shoving all those examples in my face like I was a dumbass.

>>54172102
>Jumpers can't buy an Orange Lantern Ring
Oh the irony.

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Dropping this before i head to work.
questions/comments/concerns

>>54172275
Does the Big Guy perk come with a mask?

>>54172275
Your tab game is weak and predictable.

>>54172050
>get a CP Lantern Ring
I just remembered Injustice - Gods among Us has Green and Yellow lanterns for sale.

>>54172094
>Marvel Comic jump
>Hopefully you'll realize what's wrong with it.
Ok, sorry, that was a fuck up. In my defense however, there is a Knockoff Lantern Ring combo mentioned in the notes.

>>54172102
>I think YJ had a GLR item, but it was removed.
That must have been way early in the WIP.
I don't remember ever seeing a Lantern ring there.
But it does have a Reach Scarab, which is their answer to green lanterns.

>>54172289
yes

>>54172102
>Green Lantern - Green, Violet, Red, Blue
I remember Manyfist saying you could choose Yellow and Indigo lanterns if you took the Blackest night drawback that added them to the continuity.

>>54171897
Psuedodragons are cat sized.

>>54172259
To be fair, there is only one actual member of the Orange Lantern corps. Then again, I'm pretty sure most Jumpers could theoretically steal it from him.

>>54172275
Is there a Spy specialty?

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>>54172357
That is apart of the "scout" class, which also functions as the sniper class

>>54172353
Which would be the most appropriate way to get one, too.

I was just making a joke about how greedy the average Jumper already is.

>>54172353
How hard would it be to gank Larfleeze and take it? Orange seems like a good fit for magpie jumpers.

>>54172183
The jump explicitly tells you what the effects of your soul "ascending to a higher dimension" are. Needing to be attacked through your soul, being able to survive without a body, and absurd prana regeneration. Being unable to be harmed by anything other than "extra-dimensional abilities" is not one of them, and who the fuck knows. "Dimensional tiering" is rarely consistent in fiction, and especially not in the Nasuverse. And you literally asked:

>Is there anything outside of the Endbringers in Worm that could harm someone who went through the Third Magic Ritual?

I gave examples of beings who can utilize extra-dimensional attacks, or who could ignore such an effect. If you didn't want people to provide examples of things that could, in fact, harm you... Then you should have said you didn't want examples when you asked if there was anything else that could harm you. Unless you would rather someone just say "yes" or "no" without providing examples... But you're assuming I've insulted you because you want to be insulted, I guess.

>>54172390
>>54172394
>Insatiable Greed: Those who are recruited into the corps are infected with greed like a disease. They are incapable of thought or action other than to take whatever they want from another.
>"I don't get it. I feel exactly the same."

>>54172390
>Which would be the most appropriate way to get one, too.
Yes, but it wouldn't be CP, which means some one could destroy it, or steal it right back. Which would be terrible.

>>54172394
He's apparently one of the strongest lantern ring users in the universe since he's the only one using its power. (More users = more spread out power = weaker individuals iirc) So whatever you think of when you think strong lantern ring user, that but more so.

>>54164804
Me being a giant demon snowman is usually what people notice first.

>>54172394
He's really fucking good at using the Orange light. As in, he doesn't actually fucking use rings anymore since they'd be a handicap. But you can't have a ring. Nobody can have a ring. The rings aRe HiS.

So the good news is that he's a paranoid, isolated maniac with no allies except for the billions of years of would be grave robbers who have discovered that Larfleeze oWnS hIs PlAnEt. The bad news is that he's a paranoid maniac that can channel the orange light directly and so isn't limited by the limited charge a ring can hold and has an arbitrarily large army that he can conjure on a whim of everyone who's ever challenged an alien warlord on a planet full of treasure over the course of a billion years.

>>54172419
To be fair, I did choose Greed in both FMA and Asura's Wrath.

>>54172558
>choosing Greed in FMA
But why?

No, seriously, why choose Ultimate Shield?

>>54172394
How will you deal with the issue that it runs on a metaphysical construct unique to the DC universe?

>>54172580
>not stealing the orange light itself
Someone's new to the jumping game.

>>54172580
Steal it.

Obviously.

>>54168972
>I'm going to ask again.
Such entitlement, anon! Show some manners.
Still:
>>54168972
Exalted could still rkt you, based on my understanding. They have dedicated spirit killing charms that should effect what you become through the ritual.

>>54172577
It was, like, my second jump, so the durability was useful, and its mental effects seemed rather tame compared to, say, Wrath or Pride.

>>54172661
No one answered my question which is why I asked again. Sorry if that's 'entitlement' to you.

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Are those linking perks worth it? The ones that link Beauty and Strength for example, I am always afraid someone would give me a debuff or cause damage to one and my power would wane during a fight.

Like pic related as an example, then again only a early jumper would be effected like Palpy.

>>54172810
A few of them don't decrease beyond your base. Those are almost always worth it. The others... well I personally don't like putting all of my eggs in one basket, but your mileage may vary if the benefits are worth the risk.

>>54172810
They usually don't make you go beneath your base. Or at least the good ones don't.

So if they give you a debuff, at most you'd only go back to how pretty/strong you were before considering the perk's boost.

>>54172665
Alright, approaching that with an eye for early survivability and managing a pseudo-drawback... I'd go with Envy or Sloth -- Envy had incredible regen, even compared to the other hummonculi, and Sloth's speedboost would allow you much more options, and as an active defense you can use the speed to dodge.

The secret to defeating someone with unbreakable armor is to pick them up, armor and all, and then shake them hard and long enough that you pulp an internal organ. What happens once you have a concussion from your brain being knocked around? Best defense is always to not get hit or pinned.

>>54172345
Psuedodragons are the best. Just the best! CUTE!

>>54172810
Not really. You can pick up enough strength in any field you'd care to name without them, and they just add a weakness you didn't have before.

The exception is if you have Toggle or something similar - or just rule that you can disable any perks at will by default.
Then it's a shortcut to boost up your weaknesses, and if someone debuffs you you can just use toggle to turn it off until the debuff goes away or is cured.

Mainly i think they're just not worth the CP even with the second option though.
Like the one in Overlord costs 600cp undiscounted. You can get a whole lot of awesome stuff in Overlord for 600cp (or even 300cp if you're the relevant origin), and strength or magic boosters are a dime a dozen.
I'd maybe consider picking one up if it boosts something that's rare to find boosts for, but i haven't seen one yet.

>>54172810
The only ones that link Beauty and Strength I know of are in ToDaG and Akame ga Kill. The ones in the former aren't "true" linking perks, as they only improve your appearance along with your strength rather than tying them together. Most Powerful, Most Beautiful only mentions improvements, though. So it's arguable it doesn't decrease the other.

>>54171819
But that is easy, Yuriko and Sacrificial Bestowment.

>>54172909
>Toggle
?

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What are the best perks for bullying?

I want to poke fun at edgy try-hards during fights.

>>54172907
Could a True Dragon shapeshift into a Pseudo dragon with their Alternate Form power? For some reason I have the urge to pull a Godfather but with a dragon instead of a cat.

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>>54172810
>>54172935
If that's the criteria, then ToDaG has stuff that ties beauty to soul, soul to strength, etc. While Soul Eater has soul to strength and vice versa. Then put in World of Culivation to always train train mind/body/soul/beauty and German Hollow to always be training the soul.

>>54173005
From Young Justice.
Lets you disable your perks or scale their effects from 0-100%

>>54173044
No, most dragons are limited to humanoids and animals of medium size or smaller.
Druids can though with Dragon Wild Shape, so a True Dragon with levels in Druid can do it.

>>54172810
Drain No is your friend.

>>54173005
From Young Justice, as is Drain No. Personally, I prefer the Worrier's Pendant in Noblesse, though.

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>>54173027
Use toon physics, get them from the least edgy possible source.

>>54173070
>Toggle info
Thanks!

>>54173082
Translator's Note: That means somewhere less edgy than pic related.

>>54173074
>From Young Justice, as is Drain No. Personally, I prefer the Worrier's Pendant in Noblesse, though.
Personally i prefer the one from The Incredibles.
Not only does it no-sell any attempts to detect your powers in addition to the toggle effect, the jump also comes with a private island.

>>54173070
I guess I will have to import mine as Druids then, a bit irritating but oh well Druids can be fun too.

>>54173107
I just dislike the concept of Toggle as a perk. And henshin/magical girl transformations. And perks that allow you to ignore the consequences of your actions. They just kind of rub me the wrong way. At least with an item, it's not an innate part of you.

>>54173111
Well there's not much reason to import most true dragons as anything else except maybe psion.
They already get sorcerer spells with their racial casting, and most of the good ones get cleric spells and a few domains too.
So druid is really the only thing that's left.

Note that they could just learn Alter Self though if you just care about the looks/physical form.
It's a low level spell, it lasts a long time at high levels and any dragon can turn into a Pseudodragon with it.

>>54173152
I don't really see the problem with you being able to turn off your powers, but to each their own.
I also don't see any similarity to perks that let you ignore consequences of your actions though.
If you use your super strength to punch someone through 6ft of solid concrete and get seen toggling your super strength off won't help you avoid the consequences.
And the perk from The Incredibles lets you avoid detection, but once people know you have an ability the perk won't make them forget.

>>54173152
>And perks that allow you to ignore the consequences of your actions
Toggle isn't any more of that than any other perk.

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>>54173152
>and henshin/magical girl transformations

The rest of your post is fine, but that there is heresy.

>>54173082
Roger Rabbit has the best toon physics that I know of, but it mentions that it doesn't work if the other person is actually trying to hurt you.

Do you think it'd be okay to let the toon physics from that jump work if you're so much stronger than the other guy that they can't actually hurt you? Like, if someone shot you with intent to kill, but the bullets would normally just bounce off you, could you choose to instead just get swiss-cheesed and laugh it off?

>>54168920
Hypnos from Resident Evil
Dead Aposlte from Kara no Kyoukai(sp?) (the jump where you can get Mystic Eyes of Death Perception)
Any jump that offers cultivation. - Generic Xianxia, Tales of Demons and Gods, World Seed, World of Cultivation, Desolate Era (noce it's done) Coiling Dragon, etc.
And the king of them all - The Gamer!

>>54173207
In my personal opinion, that'd be fine, but it's not up to me.

>>54173204
I actually really like my magical girl transformation.
There's nothing more hilarious in a super-serious setting than transforming right in front of your super-edgy emolord opponent, with maximum sparkles and cheesy j-pop soundtrack, and then kicking their ass in a frilly, cutesy outfit while spouting random speeches about love and justice.
Bonus points if you can get a newscrew to film it.

>>54173241
Reminder that there's a group of magical girls in the current DB Super tournament. A robot attacked them before they could transform, and one of the gods called it a dirty move.

>>54173197
>It's a low level spell, it lasts a long time at high levels and any dragon can turn into a Pseudodragon with it.
They have to be within one size category of it though.

So really only Small and Tiny dragons can do that (technically also Dimunitive ones, but I don't think there are any even as Wyrmlings).

>>54173267
Just use Alternate Form to transform into a small humanoid first?
There's a way to cheese anything in D&D 3.5, you just have to find it.

>>54173267
So go with Polymorph. A little higher level and it doesn't last as long, but it doesn't care about size category.

Either that or invent your own Great Alter Self spell. Level 4 spell probably. Rip out the limitation on size category. Bam. Done.

>>54173197
>>54173203
I just don't like "flipping a switch" on things that people in similar situations would have to deal with. Whether it's on the social contract or your very nature. It's pretty much just all the benefits of power with none of the downsides, no learning to control it, no dealing with the potential drawbacks. It's probably not a very common interpretation, I'll admit, but I always find myself skipping such things.

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>>54173264

>>54173230
Dead Apostle and MEoDP are Tsukihime.

>>54173322
You have a wierd sense of fairness, anon. You realise by that measure you should feel real bad about every advantage Jumpchain gives you that others don't, right?

>>54173027
Maximum Bully from Disgaea.

YOU ARE SUCH AN IGNORAMUS I COULD SHIT MILES OF RAGE SNAKE TO CHOKE YOU TO DEATH from Sburb, as well as We’ve both done a lot of things that you’re going to regret, from Portal would both be nice if you want to insult them.

...What is it with insult-based perks and long names?

>>54173355
Ooops. Thanks anon. My bad.

>>54173322
If you want to do things that way, then go ahead. Hope it works out for you, but I can't say I'd do the same. Toggle is just too handy not to have, even if it's just a contingency.

>>54173264
It's not like most jumpers have to worry about being attacked while not transformed, if they don't have a transformation with invulnerability during the sequence anyway.
And DB isn't that serious anyway. Doing it in a setting like Worm though, with maximum shoujo-sparkles? And winning? Priceless.

>>54173322
Well, if it's something like super strength hopefully you can control it anyway.
Otherwise you'll break a lot of stuff if you decide to use it.

Something like invulnerability though? Or luck perks, people-reading perks, precog, mind reading etc...
It's not about about making things easier for yourself or dealing with the "downsides" (which something like super luck doesn't really have).
You kinda need a way to turn those off some of the time just to keep things interesting once you get in the double-digits of a chain, otherwise things just get boring as shit.

>>54173027
There's a neat one in Ogre Battle that I think gets overlooked. Pain Is So Close to Pleasure not only gives you a talent for bullying others, but it even helps you know when and where to apply it to keep those around you loyal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2W2mU8R7-A

Am I the only one who noticed that ALL the perks in that Jump are named after Queen songs?

>>54172810
What are you doing accumulating power if you're not immune to debuffs? That should be one of the first abilities you acquire, anon.

>>54173422
>Doing it in a setting like Worm though, with maximum shoujo-sparkles?
Given how weird Cape gimmicks can get, it wouldn't even be out of place to have a literal magical girl somewhere.

>>54173465
Cape gimmicks get weird, but they all take themselves super seriously.
Though there IS Mouse Protector (who you definitely need to save from being S-Nine'd, for LOVE AND JUSTICE).

>>54173465
>it wouldn't even be out of place to have a literal magical girl somewhere.
Yes it would. The author absolutely hates anything silly taking place in his setting, and if there was a magical girl he'd make sure that her backstory would involve something like her being a pedophile, and the whole magical girl theme is just to lure in kids.

>>54173492
Not even counting Love and Justice, the Slaughterhouse Nine deserve to get completely sabotaged at the earliest opportunity. Bunch of tryhards.

>>54173507
The only way to enjoy Worm is to more or less ignore everything Wildbow has to say about the setting.

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Have you or your allies ever intentionally made use of companion respawn mechanics?

>>54173570
I think the 80's action movie jump has a Stunt Double companion, who is implied to enjoy the rush of dying and coming back to life. They would probably learn, and abuse the hell out of, the 8 gates technique from Naruto.

>>54173570
Sure. Those peace talks weren't going to suicide bomb themselves.

>>54173507
Either that or a backstory that makes Madoka look cheerful.

>>54173536
>Not even counting Love and Justice, the Slaughterhouse Nine deserve to get completely sabotaged at the earliest opportunity. Bunch of tryhards.
Well yes. That kinda goes without saying if you're anything even approaching heroic (or just neutral, really).
My first action in Worm, before anything else, generally involves a scry & die of some sort on the Nine.
Because for anyone who considers themselves ready to jump Worm they're just not that threatening, especially with meta knowledge about the Siberian and Jack's shard-based danger sense.

>>54173570
I fanwank that companions follow the same rules as the jumper - they die, they get send back to their home setting. So no.

>>54173602
>They would probably learn, and abuse the hell out of, the 8 gates technique from Naruto.
>companions respawn

God I hate how I never think of these things and how abusable they are.

>>54173492
>>54173507
Everyone would probably just assume that you were nuts, like Glaistig Uiane, or that you were intentionally playing it up to put on a show. If a group like Uber and Leet can exist, it wouldn't surprise me if their was a Cape who dressed up and acted like a traditional magical girl for the sake of and to appeal to her fanbase.

>>54173536
>more or less ignore everything Wildbow has to say about the setting.
You reminded me of something that occurred to me recently:
>Wildbow claims Saitama could kill Behemoth with one punch
>He cites narrative force as the reason he can do this
>Therefore, it follows that Saitama could kill Scion with one punch
>Saitama relies entirely on physical force
>Therefore, it follows that Scion can be killed via sufficient application of physical force
So there, no need to worry about inter-dimensional fuckery, just hit him really hard. This is WoG, people.

>>54172580
>How will you deal with the issue that it runs on a metaphysical construct unique to the DC universe?
Already have a CP Lantern ring of a different color, because if it works in other jumps, then the Orange ring would as well, since they are powered by the same emotional spectrum.

>>54173207
Actually Worm is still the best toon physics power we have, it still the only one that goes full toon. Although generic toon world's durability perks are okayish.

>>54173673
Isn't Scion both more powerful and more plot important than Behemoth?

Even though he gets put down by bullying.

>>54173673
Pretty sure he also said that the specific punch at the end of the Boros battle would be sufficient to kill an Endbringer.

>>54173602

There's also stuff like FF blue magic 'self-destruct.'

Or any kind of magic that benefits from human sacrifice.

>>54173673
Can we like, not try to mine One Punch Man for feats and data when it has always been and always will be a story with one of its central themes being "power levels are stupid"?

>>54173241

IS anyone working on a princess: the hopeful jump?

>>54173731
Anon's just making fun of Wildbow a little, that's all.

>>54173698
Yes, immensely so.

However, Wildbow said Saitama would kill Behemoth because he's One-Punch Man and can, by definition, defeat anyone with one punch. That was his primary justification, he tacked on the thing about the Boros punch being sufficient in a subsequent post in order to comply with the "canon feats" rule the subreddit had.

By this reasoning, that Saitama will win because the point of his character is that he always wins easily, Saitama should be able to kill Scion.

>>54173750
Nika is.

>>54173751
Ah, alright, hard to tell sometimes with this place.

>>54173722
But it's not really a sacrifice if they come back.

>>54173762
But the reasoning is that Saitama wins through storytelling reason. You can't use "Saitama would wreck Scion" as justification for "enough brute force would wreck Scion".

>>54173751
You've got it.

Wildbow also said in one of his various WoGs that Scion has a bunch of powers that he didn't show in canon, in response to someone asking about them for a tabletop they wanted to run, and he of course didn't want to list them. Wildbow absolutely HATES anyone claiming that anything could beat his setting, so I naturally want to point out how his own claims show that his stuff can be beaten by just hitting it really hard.

>>54173791
>You can't use "Saitama would wreck Scion" as justification for "enough brute force would wreck Scion".
Yes I can. Since all Saitama can do is throw around brute force, that result naturally follows.

Granted, it says nothing about the amount of force required, but the fact that it's possible is what I'm going for here.

>>54173791
If it's something emotional like having your Sharigan go Mangekyo, then yeah, them coming back undermines it. But if you're just harvesting some life force, does them reviving really matter?

So considering the Deathlords and their vast array of Charms, does that mean it's possible to use Charms without the relevant Exaltation if you have enough Essence? Specifically, I'm trying to determine if a being created with Demon Spawn from Hero BBS could use any of my Charms or inherit any Essence.

>>54173207
>>54173236
Yeah, that sounds fine to me.

>>54173902
Neat.

I always feel guilty when I want a ruling like that, so thanks for responding.

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What would be some good perks for a breast-focused chain?

>>54173883
No. The deathlords can only use those Charms through the power of bullshit and having the shards of dead souls from the Neverborn shoved inside them.

They could not use those charms when they were just normal ghosts, and neither can any other ghost without a direct link to Neverborn empowering them.

>>54173799
If he hates anything beating his setting, why would he claim that Saitama could one shot endbringers? That seems like it would be a serious blow to the 'my characters are the stronkest' agenda.

>>54173927
No problem, anon.

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>>54173968
Well, first you'll want to be a girl.

Then, go Charmer in Body Mod for 3 free ranks of Endowed. Then visit Senran Kagura. After that, you'll just want to improve them via any option like Tracer Booty, Incredible Looks, or Hand Model.

Get ahold of some body control perks so you can use them as effective weapons. If you want to increase milk production, work in some DNA from dairy cows into your genome. If seeking a higher fat content in the milk, add blue whale DNA.

Oh god why did I actually answer this?

>>54173799
Thing is Wildbow actively hates the worm fanbase, I won't say its entirely unwanted as he cares about things like getting Taylor's personality right when the majority of his fanbase just wants to see jailbait teenage girls kiss each other. But at this point he actively shitposts, but yes, he does have a major "my universe beats yours!" complex as well.

>>54173997
Sigh. I literally don't know where to start, so instead I'm just going to leave it to someone else to tell you how wrong you are. Bye.