Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

Crimsons Fists a best.

I like how daemons are now no more scary than a conscript

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>>54159112
I would a cultist

>>54159112
>Malal
>Him
you mean her

Hydra dominatus

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I have about 40 Chaos terminators, old metal stuff, plus some characters. I haven't played since 4th.

Can I field a Chaos terminator army in 8th and not have it be total shit? Can anyone recommend what else I should pick up to add to the army? I like those forgefiend things

Cheers~

>>54159178
To hear /tg/ talk, cultists are the scariest thing in the game right now.

>>54159193

god the tusks really make those look hilarious in a bad way

To get bitz where?

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>>54159178
>not an Eldar like a proper imperial citizen

>>54159201
True, but I would rather shell out to buy new stuff than replace old stuff.

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>From last thread

So I have a couple questions

First off, lets say I'm new to Imperial guard but I have 700 to start an army.

I know Heavy weapons squads are boss in all flavors right now due to being dirt fucking cheap, and sticking 18 of them into a stormlord is hotness.
But past this where do I go with that army? I'm gonna need some infantry, I assume Standard troopers fit the bill for that but I'm not sure how they should be kitted out.
And how many command points should I be shooting for? It seems to me IG can get more Command points than any other army but I'm not sure how worth it they are.

>>54159245
just buy what you think looks cool m8 holy shit

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Has anyone tried a Renegade list in 8th yet?

Looking at the rules it seems like they had the shit nerfed out of them.

>>54159201
Can you imagine the Terminators going into a workshop post-heresy and welding those things on, saying to themselves "Oh yea, this is totally intimidating!"

>>54159194
What? Cultists are like little corn stalks with arms that die to anything and have the leadership of 4 unsupervised rowdy black children in a target

So uh I bought what I liked, mass guardsmen backed by a commissar. It was bad in the previous edition.

But now massing infantry is seen as WAAC and slows the game down too much so people will be reluctant to play.

Planning to go to GW tomorrow, am feeling a bit worried. Will I have problems getting games and fielding the army I like?

>>54159193
>Can I field a Chaos terminator army in 8th
yes, easily
>and not have it be total shit?
depends really, 40 kitted out terminators now will set you back about 2000 points, but they are incredible for an alpha strike when you give them all combi-plasmas/meltas however you have to start at least half your models on the board now
stick them with a term lord/abbadon and they get more deadly
>Can anyone recommend what else I should pick up to add to the army?
like I said, lord or abby for an HQ, could probably pad out with some cultists meaning you can deploy more terminators in deep strike
>I like those forgefiend things
forgefiends seem pretty great, only got 1 but it pulls its weight and more every single game. just try to make sure it isnt your enemys number 1 priority so it doesnt have to move

>>54159289
Really pesky thing with R&H is that there is no way to repair their vehicles, since warp-smiths and hellwrights lack the keywords.

Also they lost tons of their customization and most of their units are just shittier versions of an already existing imperial guard unit.

>>54159316
Yes, feel bad chump.

>>54159316
They'll wait for you to finish setting up and then leave before playing.

>>54159289
Marauders seem cool, not sure how you would get them into combat though? Chimera ?

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So I'm looking to start a DW army, should I do one of the pic related Watch-Fortresses or come up with my own?

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>>54159327
That's what I mean. It seems like they lost everything of value and are now just a weaker version of Guard. I was hoping that maybe they would still be okay on tabletop but I guess not. :/

>>54159369
> Not doing Furor Shield
If you don't have taste, I guess you could do one of those two.

>>54159293

>Surely I won't regret these metre long inflexible attachments ultra glued to my face. What could possibly go wrong

Does rolling double 1's on a charge fail now?

>>54159460
No why would it?

>>54159460
if you are more than 3 inches away, yes

>>54159460
no you charge up to 2 inches, which since you only have to be within 1 inch of the enemy to melee thars a 3 inch threat range

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>>54159316

Just be courteous. If you have an army that size that's already painted, it's obvious that it's a labor of love. My friend's genestealers are now OP as fuck, and I was happy for him.

if they're not painted, fuck you you fucking assclown, the fuck have you been doing all these years? Dipshit. Fuck you.

>>54159478
the least you could do is primer them and touch up some details, im not asking for Golden Demon

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>>54159478
>if they're not painted, fuck you you fucking assclown, the fuck have you been doing all these years? Dipshit. Fuck you.

Basically this.

>>54159440
One of my friends from high school I play with regularly plays tau and part of me changing to DW was I was kind of sick of getting shot off the board after setting up tons and tons of models, so now I can get shot off the board after setting up very few models. I wanted a Watch Fortress that specifically murders tau.

>>54159478
Of course it's all painted. Who wouldn't paint their armies?

.... Who... wouldn't... all those other people at my store... I painted well over 100 guardsmen when I had a full time job and they say they have no time!

>>54159520
To confirm yes they're all painted and I am actually very reluctant to ever field models that haven't been painted.

Got a chance to play my Ynnari in their first tournament today - overall very pleased with their performance. Need to make a few tweaks but I think they're still in a good spot. How'd your hobby go today?

>>54159559
Nice, i never field unpainted shit myself

I'm sure your store will be fine if you've put effort in i would fight a massed IG force just to see how it went

>>54159544

play on, then. You have nothing to fear from any pleb.

>>54159589
What kind of list did you run?

>>54159589
Realized that Fire Prisms are garbage. Sad times, they look sick but they're so bad.

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Daily reminder that RAW as per "9. Keywords", a unit with the <Carnifex> keyword is considered a "Carnifex unit" and thus Old One Eye buffs himself.

Have a good one!

>>54159193
>>54159324
You could also consider a Land Raider for those board-stuck Terminators - they're lethal, as always, and will keep those Termis alive.

>>54159641

>Yvraine
>Farseer - Singing Spear
>5x Warriors - Agoniser, Blaster
>5x Warriors - Agoniser, Blaster
>5x Warriors - Agoniser, Blaster
>5x Wraithguard - D-Scythe
>10x Shadow Spectres
>Venom - 2x Splinter Cannon
>Venom - 2x Splinter Cannon
>Venom - 2x Splinter Cannon
>Wave Serpent - Twin Shruiken Cannon, Shruiken Cannon, Vectored Engines
>Hemlock Wraithfighter
>Hemlock Wraithfighter
>Wraithlord - Glaive, 2x Flamers
>Wraithlord - Glaive, 2x Flamers

>>54159645

Yeah I know that feel - they're just awful.

>>54159664

You aren't abusing RAW for this, all characters buff themselves unless otherwise stated. This is the intent of the rules.

>>54159203
Ebay. Otherwise you need to tell us where you live bro, as there are different bitz sellers around the world.

I just crawled out from under a rock and got the chance to look at the Chaos Index. What exactly are "power levels" and what happened to points?

How good are thousand sons at the moment? Tempted to play them because they seem to be pretty fun when combining magic and tanky marines. Honestly more scared of painting them because I'm just getting into the hobby and i know ill be shit at painting and rubric marines and sorcerers have lots of little intricate details

>>54159245
If you didn't see it I posted right at the end of the last thread. TL;DR, build at least one brigade in a list, and then add whatever else you want. After one brigade getting another doesn't add much more value.
If you want leman russes pick up start collecting boxes. Scion start collecting box isn't bad either. Don't buy more then 2 SC boxes because you will need other leman russ variants, and you can only use so many commissars. Also try to pick up the Leman Russ command box to get that techpriest.

>>54159692
Power levels are a quick and dirty way to do pick up games, points are in the back of the book.

>>54159692

Points still exist and are listed in the back of the book. Power Points are for faster/simpler lists for more casual games.

>>54159316
Man, I've played foot Orks for two editions. People get that scowl, until they realise that there are 100 fully painted Boyz and their associated toys, and they know I'm not a WAAC faggot.

If they're grey, I'd still play you, but I'd probably consider you a meme-lister.

>>54159316
They better be old metal, Steel Legion or Kreig. Otherwise you're not fooling anyone.

>>54159645
>>54159682
I tried my Fire Prism too, and am off to mind.
I actually liked how tough it was, but it just doesn't do a lot of damage.

Also tried out my army (mostly craftworld) as Ynnari for the first time, figuring out the right soulburst is triky.

Will say that banshees are better than people think. And so are carbine scourges, though I am modeling up some blasters now.

>>54159324
>>54159193

Half your units have to start on the board, not models.

For chaos that means taking 10-man units of cultists to deploy on the board so you can deep strike your terminators. You could also use three 1-man units of chaos spawn, but that doesn't get you as much cp.

You're also going to want a chaos lord to reroll your 1s to hit to maximize your alpha strike and take a lot of the risk out of overcharging plasma.

The big weakness of so many terminators is being outranged after the alpha strike. You'll need to look into some mix of long-ranged shooting and faster troops to keep the enemy from just running away from your terminators. Raptors and bikers are usable as mobile melta/plasma guns, and havocs, predators, and dreads are good for long-ranged shooting.

Besides terminators, the cult troops are all very strong right now. Their biggest problem is mobility in an edition where rhinos became much more durable at the cost of also becoming much more expensive.

>>54159696
Rubric marines and terminators are good, but TSons as an independent force are lacking in options and hamstrung a bit by the limitation of being able to use each psychic power besides smite only once per turn. Trying to make an army out of them is kinda like making a pure deathwatch force right now.

Why field unpained models? Aren't they a pain in the dick to paint later on?

I hate painting assembled models.

>>54159706
>>54159707
this.
points are definitely the way to go if you are planning a game in advance.
But power is great for if you just brought some models to the shop and run into someone and want a game.

Which is why you should start bringing models with you. Games can be had quick now.

>>54159706
>>54159707
Well that's dumb. Couldn't they have both of them there? It kinda' seems like they're saying "Oh you're one of -those- players, that uses -points-. You have to sit at the back of the book."

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>>54159664

>>54159727
I've not been playing for that long I'm only 24 okay I needed a job before I could afford this stuff! Started say... 3-4 years ago I think?

>>54159752
The idea was that they can update points without releasing new datasheets.

>>54159738
Because you want to play with your shit /now/, not in three weeks when you finally get up the money for the new paints you need for the models and also have the time and motivation to sit down and paint.

>>54159738
Because the best part of the hoby for me is assembling and conversions, playing, and painting. In that order

>>54159752
because then they'd need to include points for all the wargear options and that would clutter up the unit profile.

You have the two pages you need for list building. Then in play you just look at the unit profile.

>>54159738
I'm waiting to be able to spray paint, humidity here blows ass for the past few weeks and days to come.

>>54159738

Probably why some unpainted models are armless or half a torso.

A lot of players who rush to play games or don't care about painting their armies also won't want to deal with annoying sub-assemblies.

>>54159183
Oh, have you been posting about planned parenthood and drumpf on facebook in hopes of attracting one? :^)

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Is this a breacher gun or the tau shoota?

I still have almost thirty primed guardsmen and forty shitly painted ones from ebay, all from before 8th was announced. Just started about nine months ago. Everything I do to try and avoid an OP list while still being at a full 2000 points ends up steamrolling my opponents. I'm getting ready to go full fluff with the most fluffy and ineffecient list I can, both when listbuilding and in battle.

>>54159805
That's a poorly converted eldar fairyboy.

>>54159193
From what I've seen Terminators only need to be used really intelligently or they get shredded by superior firepower (even though they are tough as shit, nothing survives like hundreds of shots without rolling some 1s).

Twentyish terminators and a couple models you can buy used on the cheap and paint if you like such as heldrakes and hellbrutes will definitely work though.

>>54159805
It's a pulse carbine you dip.

>>54159752

I think primarily its to allow points updates without needing to release entire new data sheets.

>>54159820
I know, part of the gun fell out too.
Would a pinvice help?

>>54159829
Thanks anon.

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Hey I have been working on this chart for a bit now, Its about 85% complete. Just gotta make item art and points costs. But what do you think?

>>54159728
Problem is, Wave Serpents just do more damage and are tougher, for less points.

I really wish Falcons and Fire Prisms were better. They don't even have to be great, just make them less horribly expensive paperweights.

>>54159862
>ripping directly form Soda Pop's Super Dungeon Explore

>>54159864

Yeah Wave Serpents being simply a better choice relegates most of the other chassis variants to the shelf. I have had some success with the Night Spinner at least.

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Primaris bois

>>54159808
Add Ogryns and Rough Riders.

>>54159738
The only times I fielded unpainted models was when a guy challenged me right when I finished aseembling my start collecting box and when 8th edition came out because they were within a day of each other. Now I've locked all my nids in my shop to laboriously paint, and only emerge at GW to buy paint and shoot the shit.
I have another 15 gaunts, a hive tyrant, gargoyles, and warriors to paint.

>>54159890
>Stalker bolt rifle
but why?

>>54159864
>Problem is, Wave Serpents just do more damage and are tougher, for less points.
err, I do fine that wave serpents have to be a LOT closer and thus more vulnerable.
My impression may be heavily biased by my complete inability to make 3+ or 4+ saves against flamers.

At least wraithlords are a lot better now, I'll probably run them for my though heavy support choice. With Dark reapers still for the long range damage.

Autarch windrider really impressed me every game.

>>54159862
>gods
>not just daemons
>shadowsun is just a fire warrior now
>night bringer but no deceiver

Get the fuck out of my face.

>>54159738
As someone only just this second getting into the hobby, waiting on my first purchases arriving, all the duncan videos suggest painting stuff assembled already seemingly. Is this a bad idea?

>>54159916
>wave serpents have to be a LOT closer
just run it with twin lances and a shuriken cannon, and use it as a gunboat

Banshees popping out of it can threat what, a bit under 18" on a snake-eyes charge roll?

Likewise, Fire Dragons can reach out and touch something that's a tiny bit under 24" away after disembarking.

No need to get that close.

>>54159928
For the most part, if you can't paint an area because an arm or gun or whatever is in the way

no one can see that area anyway so it doesn't matter if you don't paint it.

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>>54159862
Funny Enough I had Shadowsun named as such, but people wanted to make it more generic when I made the card. So I just went with Fire Warrior.

>>54159890
the deathwatch stalker boltgun is heavy 2. i'm surprised this one isn't also. hoping it gets changed for the published rules, because it's really hard to justify it over a guy with a combiplas instead

>>54159928

Yeah it's a pretty bad idea. You can get away with it if the model doesn't hold a rifle across its chest. The more parts you leave off the better your paintjob will be in the end. When I ended up leaving not only the gun, but arms, shoulders, backpacks, and heads off, at that point the only thing I was gluing was chest and legs so I just painted completely unassembled.

Dealing with multiple parts and masking > not being able to paint blocked parts properly whatsoever.

>>54159928
Depends on where you are. When my local store had a scene going on still most people had bare plastic, primed, or poorly painted models on the board. No one really cared, since we were all too lazy and had giant backlogs. Some people will sperg out, though, and chase you off with hobby knives and measuring tape flails.

More adeptus custodes support for 8th when

srsly, at least an HQ would be nice.

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>Play Krieg with IG rules vs salty friend
>He gets salty
>Finally get my Forge World rules in
>Excited to try Krieg rules
>Salty friend promises not to get salty
>Play Krieg vs salty friend
>He gets salty
I don't know what I expected

>>54159972
Hard to not get salty vs an army that doesnt move and blasts you off the table anon, its boring

>>54159963
We used to do Preferred Enemy: Unpainted.

>>54159928
>>54159963
Oh, I'm retarded. You meant before you assemble them.

For some models with a lot of bullshit going on and parts that cover areas of detail, yeah, paint it in pieces. Generally you want to assemble them as much as you can without it getting in the way. Some people (autists) paint on the sprue, though.

>>54159972
>play tau
>people hate me
>tau got nerfed in 8th
>people still hate me
Then again it's not like they were actually nerfed.

>>54159946
>twin lances
should try that.

>banshees
been very impressed with them from out of a wave serpent.
If you get 1 of the 3 deployments with 18" away you will get off a turn one charge.
If you get the other 3 move the WS turn one, then charge turn 2.
Weak things die, tough things get tied up, melee elites get really pissed when you combine with drain to mean that their S8 D2 weapons are really not doing much.

>Fire Dragons
was kinda disappointed by them.
partly it's that they used to kill any vehicle in one turn, and now that's not a thing.

partly it's, there is no reason to not run scourges now.
Swooping Hawks, now carbine scourges.
Fire Dragons, now blaster scourges.

I mean I'm glad I like the scourge model and used them for hawks and had extras already. but still.

>>54160000
People hate Tau because they're Tau, they just used balance as an excuse.

>>54160000
it's because you're a cunt.
Try not being a cunt.

>>54160000
>wasn't even nerfed
>lie about it anyway

And you wonder why people hate you. Why don't you go beat up some minorities while you're at it.

>>54159992
>Some people (autists) paint on the sprue, though.

I thought this was a meme until I met a guy with weird...spots on his scheme

It was all tabletop standard maybe TT+ except for random white/grey splotches

I finally overheard a conversation where he said "painting on the sprues is just so much easier" If I hadn'y been nose deep in my bag looking for a fucking Herald the look of horror on my face would've raise m,any questions

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7 decides Klan? And if you get decimated.

>>54159989
I would tend to agree with you anon, that's why I played him on a 36" wide table and moved forwards on my first turn to meet him in countercharges.
The saltstorm began on turn two when I fell back from his Swarmlord and killed it with artillery. At this point, he'd wiped out half my army and was holding 4/6 objectives.

>>54160030
Klan DECIMATIN'

>>54160030
snek bites

>>54160021
The ONLY thing I paint on the sprues is certain heads, because they always attach through the bottom of the neck.

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>>54160037
Wat

>>54160037
WE IZ DECIMATED

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>>54159992
>>54160021

Painting on sprue is for the retards who think they're being smart, but weren't smart enough to paint the parts unassembled, but off the sprue.

>>54160045
Do you clean the mold lines on the sprue, too?

>>54159896
Planning to get Ogryns and still converting up some rough riders. Problem is that time spent on those is time not spent painting.

>>54160037

TIS THE WILL OF ALMIGHTY GORKANMORK

>>54160053
woah calm down there, vlad
did goblins kill your family or something?

>>54160037
This is poetic.

>>54160055

You can't even reach certain mold lines when the parts are on the sprue, that's the whole problem with the concept, among other things.

>>54160055
Usually. I cut the surrounding sprue out so it's just a bunch of heads on a stick.

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>>54160064
>>54160037
>>54160052
>>54160073
ZOG IT WUT BLASTED KOLORS IZ KLAN DECIMATION

>>54160078
Pink, blue, green

>>54160037
This meme will never make sense.

So let me get this straight if I can because im still new. Marine terminators are said to be equipped with Power fist and Storm bolter, in the Index a terminator is 26 points but at the top of the page it says points don't include wargear. So does that mean a Marine Terminator is actually 48pts a piece stock as they take a power fist and storm bolter?

So 26 a piece or 48, am I interpreting this correctly?

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>>54159862
>>>>>>>guarantees a victory against chaos

>>54160093

48 is correct

>>54160020
It wasn't a lie, it wasn't until the high of the end of riptide wing wore off that people realized the blueberries were still op and we're made harder to kill.

I've got a dozen old metal raptors primed silver, how much should I sell them for?

Just not interested in them and they just take up space and weight

>>54160088
ill settle for Red, Blue Green or Purple Blue Green

>>54160112

They're worth a decent amount since the jump pack is in demand.

>>54160122
I only have the current raptor jump pack

No idea where the originals went

>>54159682
Why 2 Wraithlords?

Jesus christ, double Hemlocks is a thing now?

>>54160118
fuckin
if you wont do pink do red white and blue, then. It's America day, why the fuck not
it doesn't need to be wildly patriotic or anything, though, and the white can be checkers if you want

>>54160136
big aura conceal.
Auto hit with S10 -4 Ap.

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>>54160141
I need a guide on how to make a green stuff hair piece....

>>54160136

Double Hemlocks can almost win games on their own. 2D3 S10, -4, D2 shots a piece plus conceal/reveal is amazing for 211.

The wraith lords just run up the side of table and find a thing to punch, they wreck vehicles and monsters and the framers give them a second job. They're also great deepstrike blockers

>>54160162
Just have a yellow Iron Gob.

>>54160145
Yes I know why Hemlocks will be spammed, I just don't like spam anything. Why 2 Wraithlords though?

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>>54160162
That reminds me, pic related is on eBay right now.
It's name is "Beleebme". Full listed name is ""Beleebme" Greater Plague Demon of Trump, hand made model kit,"

>>54160188
Seems like having AA is gonna be necessary a lot of the time.

Looks like I need to grab a Hydra.

Reminder there is now no negative to bunching up units together as with no templates only one unit can be hit by ordnance at a time.

>>54160204
... did anyone need to be reminded of this? Who is this post for?

>>54160201
Alright, I'll bite. What's the price?

>>54160093
48
They're expensive as fuck and absolutely not worth it whatsoever.

>>54160204
>Reminder there is now no negative to bunching up

Reduced board control
Reduced unit reach
Reduced charge range
Reduced shooting range

>>54160201
Hahahhahahaha the person who made that either fucking loves Trump or is the most anally ravaged person about his victory

>>54160213
8 points more for an extra wound and pinpoint Deep Strike.

Tzeentch

Aetaos'rau'keres 700
Kairos 400
Lord of Change 365
Be'lakor 240
Reinforcements 295

Interested in trying out big bird. gonna order him soon.

A stupid list in the battle of cheesy shit me and my buddy can think of.

>>54160030
Blood Axes

>>54160212
65 USD. Free shipping.

>>54160218
>Reduced board control
Memes, you can advance and cover ground quickly that way.
>Reduced unit reach
Being bunched up means more men can press themselves into a given task.
>Reduced charge range
Stronger charge, 2 men charging in is jackshit compared to 10
>Reduced shooting range
All your men are in optimal shooting range.

>>54160162
I would honestly print the hairpiece. You're going for cartoony over the top anyway so the quality isn't as big of a deal as the overall effect.

>>54160197

See>>54160188 - smash bros basically

>>54160078
RED WHITE AND BLUE

>>54160219
>fucking loves Trump
If he did he would model him as Gulliman, not a nurgle demon. That's dude is prolly your average MSNBC, CNN, stephen colbert audience.

>>54160251
>Memes, you can advance and cover ground quickly that way.

>you can cover more ground by advancing X inches than by starting Y inches closer AND advancing X inches

>>54160262
Nurgle is love, Anon.

>>54160260
At 8" move, why wouldn't the enemy just kite them?

>>54160265
Yes you can, now it's a proper line and not a haphazard mob begging to be slaughtered.
But perhaps more importantly it allows you to have more units within range of an aura.

So, I've got new Seekers I need to make, and since I want them to be viable for fantasy I was thinking of sticking them on the square bases. They're a bit shorter than the rounds, though, so do I need to make some shit to sit them on or wrap around the bases to make them the right size, or can I get away with having them as-is?

>>54160295
Doesn't AoS use round bases now?

>>54160280

Average move of 11" once you factor in advance and I honestly try to get people to run from them so I can corral them into better shooting alleys.

>>54159448
>>54159293
they are grown not attached.

>>54160295
Put them on rounds Fantacuck, and play Age of Sigmar with the adults.

>>54160305
I thought bases didn't matter in AoS. Or am I just retarded?

>>54159559
Post them

>>54160331
They don't and GW still mostly packets squares, but AoSfags will shit on you until you rebase them.

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You guys get any painting done today?

I got celestine as a birthday present to myself, so i spent all of today painting her

>>54160328
spotted the shill

>>54160348
Spotted the manchild. Stop taking up space in the shop with your dead game.
You're worse than Hobbitshitters.

So, do we have a verdict on the Contemptor dread?

For the points and options, which one is better, FW or GW version?

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>>54160366
I don't understand how you're this bootybothered by people who play fantasy instead of Skubmar. Did they make fun of your Sigmarines? Did seeing them have fun playing a game you don't personally like make you angry?

>Stop taking up space in the shop
>implying people don't just play it at home with their friends so they don't have to deal with autists like you

>>54160347
I like it matey, looks different from what you normally see.

>>54160345
>>54160331
there is a 'house rule' mentioned in the books that bases can be used to measure from.
Everyone uses it.

It's only a 'house rule' because they didn't want to change the base rules, no matter how terrible Kirby's ideas were.

So how do the pistol shooting rules work in close combat? Is the shooting done during the Shooting phase or is it done during the Fight phase?

>>54160414
If they just would fuck off then this wouldn't be an issue.

>>54160458
If your problem with them is that they exist, you cannot be helped. Consider not taking such a strong stance over such an asinine thing.

Marines drop to 10ppm

How is 40k effected?

>>54160450
Shooting phase.

>>54160487
Primaris become even more worthless, Marine spam becomes overly effective.

>>54160480
>be playing like a normal person
>this neckbeard walks in and goes over to the aos section
>the look of sadness in his eyes as he sees the boxes
>shakes it off and goes to buy a legacy army box (ogres)
>one of my friends plays ogres
>because this fuck bought the last two units of bulls he'll have to go without or order online
Yeah no, I have deeper issues.

>>54160532
There there, anon.

>>54160347
Clean as hell, anon. Love the wings.

>Have plastic set of assault hammernators
>Want to give the sergeant thunderclaws
>Grab one of my old metal terminators from back when thunderclaws were their only option
>set him next to a hammernator
It's like a fucking inch shorter, and is the size of a new manlet marine holy shit.

I didn't realize there's been this much fucking sizecreep what in the fuck I can't even mix metal terminators in anymore shit.

Standing it next to my gravis primaris captain looks like take your kid to school day.

>>54160201
>>54160212
At $65 I'm really considering it

>>54160601
Post a size comparison pic.

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>sisters can do cool tricks with acts of faith and tanks (and engines).
>GW removes it

Why does GW hate SoB?

>>54160601
>thunderclaws
lmao

>>54160601
Hey if the chaplain from winter assault is shorter than Sturnn then it's no problem here either.

>>54160626
Their faith isn't as string anymore since the emperor's son promotes human human women getting cucked by xenos.

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>>54160626

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>>54160647
That's just natural for human women to gravitate towards the PROBE.

>>54160621
if you do, post us and keep us updated

just don't go blowing $65 basically for a meme unless you're serious about it.

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How does this make you feel?

>>54160227
LoC aren't that good, kind of lame since they are awesome in AoS. Aetaos is awesome though.

>>54160227
>taking be'lacuck
lmao

>>54160671
>How does this make you feel?
autistic

I've got a 1600 point friendly tourney on Friday that should be fun. I'm thinking dred/kan mob

and an old buddy is coming into town and we want to reignite our old Ork/Nid rivalry so we'll be throwing down 3.5k on sat.

I'm painting 30 metal/plastic stormboys and 2 custom trukks. Shame about the ruling on battlewagons, I was looking forward to building some flash gits

wait now that templates are gone and you can shoot flyers a lot easier, does it mean shoot down flyers with a tank cannon or is there some rule I'm missing

>>54160626
S Q U A T T E D
Q
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>>54159183
Anyone got the Iron Warriors version of this?

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>>54160671
looks cool as hell.

>>54160704
You're right

I raised this questions last thread because it feels like Battlefield now

>>54160704
You can shoot flyers down with flamethrowers.

>>54160720
Those are some fancy shoes you have there, Anon.

>>54160735
Which makes sense if you think about it.

Heat changes the consistency of air so if you heat up the air around a plane enough it will start to stall. Like how blowing heat into a hot air balloon causes it to rise.

>>54160728
>>54160735

ahahahhaha

hhaHAHAHAHa yessss

>>54160664
The only thing keeping me from it is that the closest place to play to me is a Games Workshop

>>54160735

Don't forget Skarbrand now makes flyers suicide bomb themselves out of pure anger if they can't hover and have min move. Probably the greatest FAQ answer ever.

>>54160704
I now routinely shoot down fliers with indirect Earthshaker shells. Good times.

>>54160751
haha, I like em. I made those before the venom kit existed

>>54160769
what? explain

>>54160786
Skarbrand prevents units from falling back, so flyers crash if they're in combat near him as they can't do their minimum move.

>>54160769
I am perfectly fine with this.

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>>54160782
it's just like a flak 88

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>>54160786

>>54160786
Units within 8" of Skarbrand can't take Morale, fall back, and add 1 to their attacks. So if Skarbrand enters 1" of any unit with a minimum movement distance they cannot fall back and therefore crash and burn.

>>54160786
Skarbrand prevents falling back
To fallback you must move
Some fliers have a min move
FAQ says if they cannot make their min move they die
They cannot move to leave and this die

>>54160799
Fluff what happens to the flyers.

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>>54160752
There are several things wrong with this.
1. Aircraft do not operate close enough to the ground for the air around them to be heated via flamethrower.
2. changing the consistency of the air around a jet will not cause it to stall. You ever look at the flight paths of jetliners?

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If I were to fill deathwing knight bases with deamon skulls, would that be acceptable? Or do I need to make some fallen for them to stand on?

>>54160817
They're so angry they try and climb out of the cockpit to fight and crash.

>>54160831
They can stand on anything. As long as you're using the base size they come with anything goes.

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>>54160821
They fly in the gulfstream which is cooler air. Hence why they're called gulfstream jets.

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>>54160821
afaik, flyers in 40k usually are trucking along at 50ft off the ground.

also, while cool looking I think addingflyers and super heavies to 40k was a mistake

>>54160833
Love it.

>>54160849

neither is really as bad as last edtion. Both are very killable. I feel bad for my necron buddy the tesseract vault can't seem to survive for more than at most 2 turns.

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>>54160841
>they're called gulfstream jets
They're called that because the manufacturer is Gulfstream Aerospace you fucking retard.

>>54160849
You're not wrong, but they feel a lot better this edition. Finally got a game in with my new Stormhawk and I'm loving it.

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>>54160865
not even balance reasons, I just think it's dumb to have supersonic jets flying in circles among a skirmish

>>54160865
Tesseract Vault is really weak for what it costs.

>>54160879
Yo, is that an Emperor's Warbringers bird?

>>54160879
>Stormhawk
>GW: We heard all your complaints about how retarded the flying potato known as the Stormtalon looked so we fixed it by adding wings and removing the retarded front heavy turret.
>oh by the way it's a new unit too

>>54160914
As of right now it belongs to my Raptors.
But seeing as none of my Raptors have chapter insignia yet and the Warbringers have the same color scheme, I might just think about converting the whole army over to the Imperial Fist successors so I can field Best Primarch when/if GW brings him into 40k.

>>54160917
>And we filled the entire wingspan with weapon systems !

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I used to hate the Ultramarines. I thought they were boring and uninspired.

Then they released RG and the primaris and now all I want to do is build an Ultra Primaris army with RG leading them.

WTF happened?!

What's a cheap tax heavy support that I can field in order to fulfill the Relic rules?

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I bought some recasts, and I Have air bubbles in some fine detail.

How can I repair this? Is greenstuff the only way?

>>54160661
And Genestealer women are all over that dick.

>>54160985
Or disguising it as battle damage

>>54160810
Fucking do it, my Skorcha Bomba is dishing out mortal wounds like it's no one's business.

>>54160970
Another succesfull mindwash by GW. Looks like your reconditioning is complete.

>>54160999
its some eldar stuff, so that simply doesn't look nice.

>>54160985
fill air bubbles with super glue. Save the greenstuff for mold slips

>>54160970
My only issue is that I just cant tell what the sarge is doing

>>54160971

Relic rules?

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>>54161034
So basically I need just 1 tax unit in order to fulfill this rule. That's it.

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How do you guys run your leman russes? I used to spam demolishers but with the new rules im looking to switch it up. Already using pask punisher

>>54161026
posing for the rememberencer

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Girlfriend is buying me a present for our college graduation. Told her to look at the Ork range and pick what she thought looked cool. Her picks were Kaptinn Badrukk, Flash Gitz, a Dakkajet, or a Deff Dread. Rate her taste.

>>54161051

triple punishers with yarrick and some tech priests walking behind. As well an executioner.

>>54161078
Well she's dating you anon, so she has good taste!

>>54161047

Uh... I dunno what army that is but I could look in the codex if you want

>>54161096
You're a kind soul!

>>54161078
>Badrukk, Flash Gitz
Best Ork minis. Great taste
>Dakkajet
not bad, not great either
>Deff Dread
meh tier

Good, not great taste overall. like a 6 or 7 out of 10.

>>54161088
fucking kek

>>54161103
Space Marines. Specifically playing Dark Angels and I need a cheap heavy support unit so that I can field my Leviathan Dreadnought. I was thinking maybe a Devastator squad but it doesn't really fit the rest of my army...

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>>54161088
This is why people turn to chaos.
>she might have a penis but she's also got a vagina

>>54161088
Uhm, genestealer women rating genestealer men should be a lot higher

>>54161078
Sounds like a keeper

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Recently in AoS, A stormcast faced Nurgle. Nurgle was portrayed as a cosmic horror to the fullest extent. Bigger than the universe, an infinite of corruption and entropy. As Nurgle reached out to grab the Stormcast with a hand as large as a galaxy, the impossible happened.

The Soulfire of Stormcast blazed brighter than the stars. Full of faith and hope, the soulfire actually hurt Nurgle. It made scream. The Stormcast sacrificed his immortal soul but it was glorious. He accomplished the impossible and showed a Chaos God a taste of what's to come. A warning that the Chaos Pantheon is not safe from Sigmar's Storm.

Going back to 40K, has there been any moments similar to this where a mortal directly defied the Chaos Gods and/or harmed them?

>>54161136
Should be -100%, as that means less coverage of the plague.

>>54161136
Interesting, why do you think so?

I legitimately thought genestealers didn't give a fuck, as long as they got a fuck.

>>54161078
She likes that dakka.

ALL GIRLS SHOULD LIKE DAKKA

>>54161158
>Age of Shit
Fuck off back to your containment thread.

>>54161158
Thanks for confirming that Stormcasts really were a fucking mistake.

>>54161013
problem with this is that its on fine detail. Think, the eyebrow-area of the helmet has a bubble, or like the mouth-grate of a space marine thing has a bubble.

Super glue will just glob all over the place, and I can't really do that.

>>54161160
No, they need to breed

>>54161175
But it's comfy here.

>>54161175
>STILL this mad

>>54161158
Could you not have kept that to the AoS general ? Reading that made me feel physically ill. Now shoo, I need to puke.

>>54161158
This has to be the least interesting lore I've ever read.

>>54161186
No it is not.

>>54161190
Just wondering if the sister universe had similar moments.
Why does the idea of the Chaos Gods being hurt make you sick?

>>54161183
Maybe try liquid green stuff. Works better for extremely fine details like that.

>>54161187
>STILL this insecure

>>54161183
>Super glue will just glob all over the place
not with a decent applicator like you get with Zap a Gap
Superglue is what everyone, including GW recommends for filling air bubbles

>>54161158
IIRC, Kaldor Dragqueen went into Slaanesh's palace and managed to make it all the way to the center.

>>54161206
>STILL this projecting

>>54161078
>Orks Minis
Orks are always 10/10, so her taste is 10/10.

>>54161204
>liquid green stuff
>works
don't lie to the poor fucker.

>>54161078

I don't want to hear about your abundant youth and pretty 22 year old girlfriend you fucking newfag!!!

>>54161217
>still this not posting in his own thread and keeping it alive instead of the ghost town it is

Is there any size foam that fits in the largest size GW case or should I just say fuck it and buy a different case, because there's no way its going to fit some of the newer more awkward non-space marine models

>>54161214
Then Slaanesh literally drown him in xir innocence and the Knight soul was damned for all time.

That's not exactly hurting a Chaos God. It's just conforming his/her/its/they power.

>>54161123

Well, the absolute cheapest rules wise is a Imperial guard heavy weapon squad which probably fits in even less.

Devastator with no special weapons is the next cheapest.

Then a Thunderfire cannon
Then a Stalker

I dunno what the rest of your list is so I don't know what fits or not.

>>54161123

Prob 5 naked bolter devastators. I would honestly wait for FW and see if you can't take something like 1 Quad Mortar or 1 Tarantula.

>>54161217
>goes into other threads and talks about AoS
>is told to go away
>"LOL U MAD"
>doesn't get why he looks insecure
Stop it. Get some help.

>>54161232
>still not realising that this thread is comfy I want to hang here

>>54161214
Cardboard Faygo was a mistake.

>>54161248
>thinking I am that anon
>still projecting

>>54161241
It's all Terminators and Bikers. Deathwing and Ravenwing.
>>54161243
That's what I was thinking, a bunch of Devastators, maybe armed with cheap heavy weapons at best so they can camp at objectives. But like I said it doesn't fit my list very well.

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>>54161026

>>54161250
>still talking about a game that isn't 40k in the 40k thread
AoS players, their thought processes are beautiful things to behold.

>>54161260
Why though? Draigo/the Silver Knight wasn't the first or the last being to actually manage to reach Slaanesh. Though, like all of them he failed the final test.

There is

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>>54161263
sure thing buckaroo

>>54161051
Always Tank Commanders and Pask. I only ever run 1-3 of them, and if only 1 it's only Pask. Any more is a waste. Battle Cannon, Demolisher or Punisher are the ones I use.

>>54161263
>still shitposting

>>54161274
Actually, talking about 40K. Asked for similar examples in 40K but you guys wanted to talk about AoS rather than brainstorm any instances in 40K as glorious as that moment. Shame on you.

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>>54161294
>glorious moment

What the fuck happened to the Lucius pattern drop pod?

>>54161310
>Chaosfag

Got a rules question. Can units start in dedicated transports? I want to take advantage of the special rule for a warkopta, that lets it be placed anywhere 9 inches away from enemy models.

So I wanna throw together a tau list since they aren't cheese-tacular this edition. How should I expand my army? I'm gonna paint everybody up as guerrilla jungle fighters with tiger stripe camo. Here's what I own

1 piranha
1 devilfish
9 crisis suits
1 ethereal
3 stealth suits
and 32 generic fire warriors.

What expand with and wat do for 2k list?

>>54161325
yes.

>>54161326
Why just one Devilfish?

>>54161319
Just a regular 40kfag.
GW had their chance and this wowcancer of yours is only making things worse.

>>54161326
>that name tho
LEMAN RUSS, IS THAT YOU?

>>54161326
Cadre fireblade and commander are what you want next.
Stealth suits with homing beacon will also help your suits.

>Seldom has the manse itself been breached successfully and have the intruders escaped with their lives. One incursion is said to have involved a squad of Fire Hawks Space Marines, a Chapter long since declared lost in the mortal realm. While Nurgle was preoccupied drowning a Lord of Change in his cauldron, the Space Marines arrived engulfed in an inferno of flame and bolter fire to reclaim their fallen captain, whom Nurgle’s minions had once overtaken all-too easily from Khorne’s Wrathgate. The Lord of Decay has his suspicions about the source of this event, laying blame at the feet of the Blood God for the foul deed, for while the Fire Hawks brought their inferno, several blood relics and skull-seeds also vanished from the garden.

-

>Ten Space Marines of the Fire Hawks Chapter slip through the ethereal void and enter the realms of Nurgle to free Captain Tirek, who is held captive within Nurgle’s manse. The Fire Hawks are enveloped in a spiritual fire, a cleansing inferno of their wrath made manifest. They fight their way through the thick, ever changing gloom and assault his dwelling, burning back the drips of ichor and clouds of spores. Fierce fighting rages throughout his oubliette, their weapons furiously dealing with diseased creatures. Their cleansing flame purges disease from the very air around them. The Fire Hawks’ incandescent attack results in the deaths of hundreds of the Nurgle’s subordinates. Having lost only two battle brothers in the melee, the Fire Hawks finally leave with Tirek. However, little do they realise that Nurgle’s Rot has taken root beneath their captain’s power armour, and the bubbling plague is spreading throughout his body. The Fire Hawks venture back out into the Immaterium, their captain slowly succumbing to disease, becoming a vector for the horrific Red Plague.

-Index Chaotica : Garden of Nurgle

what's wrong with /tg/ these days. People shitposting not contributing.
Here is the closet example I can think of

>>54161350
I started this army right when I started playing and only kind of wanted one of each thing to paint up for fun. I got all the crisis suits from a buddy and bought a burning dawn box since it looked like a fun set.

>>54161326

Ghostkeels and stealth
Fliers
Suits

>>54161355

>Lemon Rust mains xenos

>>54161374
didn't some eldar do a raid on nurgle's garden to free ISHA too?

>>54161239

Since when? Draigo was 'cursed' to become a Warp being for now and all time, but that in effect made him an immortal equivalent of an Eldar Aspect. He briefly popped into the Materium to assist and promote the one Grey Knight master who helped out the Ultramarines in Gathering Storm, so hes still kicking Chaos ass.

>>54161399
ghostkeels and fliers might be fun, I could paint up the fliers with shark faces for the theme

>>54161200
>Why does the idea of the Chaos Gods being hurt make you sick?
It isn't the idea itself, it's the how.
In 40k, Skarbrand once struck a blow against Khorne and damaged his armour. And at least in the old lore, when the Emperor finally brought himself to fully eradicating Horus, the primarch he once was the most proud and trusting of (back then people in 40k had emotions) the Chaos Gods had to quickly withdraw their blessings and influence over Horus or also suffer, so completely was Horus' soul being removed from existence.

>>54161214
That wasn't Draigo. The character in that story has a rune-encrusted sword, a description that does not fit the Titansword at all.

>>54161409
Open 6th ED daemon codex and read the Slaanesh section.

>>54161407
They became screaming trees.

>>54161374

Goddamn, Fire Hawks were cursed with godawful decisionmaking.

>>54161407

Isha is an Eldar Goddess which is eternally stuck in between Nurgle's fat buttchecks, and her torment will only end when Ynnead and the God Emperor obliterate the Realm of Chaos.

>>54161294
We play in a grimdark universe, why would we WANT to hear something noblebright and high fantasy?

>>54161441
variety is the spice of life

Bright Elves are a fun concept.

>>54159112
I know I'm just being salty, but why the heck is an Autarch on a Jetbike 112 points before giving it any options, while an Warboss on a Warbike is only 95

>>54161313
The mold broke, and FW has yet to get off it's ass to fix it.

They're thinking about an entire re-design. Could take a year, probably moar.

>>54161354
The worst part about AoS 'lore' is that it is most likely a taste of what's to come with Primarine fluff.

>>54161436

He killed the Slaaneshi slutwhores while he was there and eventually escaped.

>>54161427
>The character in that story has a rune-encrusted sword, a description that does not fit the Titansword at all.

Draigo reforged his sword using the metal from a Bloodthister's axe.

> it's the how.

What's wrong with the how?

>>54161464
Fucking gay. I'll just use an empty drop pod as a proxy then.

>>54159928
It depends on what army you are collecting but 90 percent of the models can be painted fully or mostly assembled. Keep in mind if you only want to play with painted models and do sub assemblies for all of them you probably will never get to play a game.

>>54161441
>implying 8th ed is grimdark

Girlyman is back baby. Things are only gonna get better.

>>54161473

Man, Khornate weapons are so backwards compatible with loyalists.

>>54161457
Because fuck Eldar, that's why.

>>54161374
>contributing to AoSposting

>>54161481
That's what FW told customers asking how they're suppose to field lucius drop pods in 30k to do.

>>54161496
Seems like it.

Coming back from 4th ed, seems like I missed the golden age

>>54161498
Greentext one more time I swear

>>54161473
All Grey Knights use daemon weapons now.

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>>54161509
>gReeN tEXt OnE moRe TiMe i SwEar

>>54161228
How'd you know she was pretty, anon :3

>>54159544
some people have more than one hobby

>>54161509
>being this upset about being reprimanded for feeding AoSposters

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>>54161521
Only Castellan Crowe, and he doesn't really 'use' it.

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Yriel plunged his spear deep into the rearing serpent. It keened terribly, and Yriel salivated as his weapon drank. Since the day he had lost his eye due to the spear feasting on the limitless hive mind, he had managed to control its fell power and its obscene appetites, but at this final pass he no longer had the strength, and the spear’s murderous soul overwhelmed him. He could not stop it feeding, drawing upon the infinity of spirit the Great Devourer possessed. Yriel felt the hive mind, heard it howl. It thrashed about, and Yriel was battered by its anger. Its thoughts were utterly, unimaginably alien. But one thing came through strong and loud. Hatred, hatred for this creature that had for the first time in untold aeons wounded it.

-Valedor

I guess this counts since the Hivemind is technically a Warp God. Here is Yriel wounding the Hivemind.

>>54161563
>>54161374
Acts of defiance that required great skill and sacrifice go pull off
>>54161158
Just feels really nice inside and this hurts Nurgle somehow.
Quite the difference.

>>54161603
Not really. He jumped into the abyss to meet the rising Nurgle. Using his faith as a weapon, he wounded a god.

If it was a 40K battle sister who did it, you would have been okay with. You bigot.

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Cleaned up after the wash, did a little highlighting. I think I'm gonna call it there otherwise these guys may never get finished.

>>54161374
God damn, I never read that exctract about the Fire Hawks, even though I love the LotD. That's rad as fuck.

>>54161628
>Yriel's spear is one of the fabled crone swords
>He used it to wound the Hivemind
>The Eldar already have 3-4 of the crone swords at hand

Does that mean realistically that the Eldar can kill the Hivemind?

ABANDON THREAD

>>54161707
why?

>>54161689
Honestly speaking the bare chested torso look is what makes them look so dumb.

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>>54159440
>>Furor Shield
My fucking black-clad kill-brother. You ready to slaughter some smug bugs this edition?

>>54161707
Too comfy to abandon