How do you like your wizards /tg/?

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>>54154011
Dead, same way I like my gnomes.

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>>54154136
Ow the edge

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All cybered up and loading a gun.

>>54154011
As mysterious hermits who would really prefer you didn't bother them in the middle of creating their giant hive of magic bees, or some similar vanity project that does nothing for anyone.

Obviously not good for adventuring, so I usually play them as the sort that's out to get some ideas for, and items they can use in, the above.

I unironically prefer 3.5 wizards to 4e or 5e wizards. And I have never played one in an actual campaign, in fact I've been in campaigns of 6+ people where I was the only one who couldn't cast spells (was ranger w/ nature's warrior). That said, I have a sizable banlist of spells.

Muscled

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>>54154011
Lizards

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>>54154011
Depends: As fictional characters or player characters?

As fictional characters I prefer them very experienced, and very wise as a result. Always able to provide good advice to any situation that may arise, even if they don't have the magic to deus ex machina the situation (and frankly, the more they are able to do that, the less interesting they are).

As player characters they are often insufferable even if they don't mean to be. They will almost never turn out anything like the above, and they almost always adopt the attitude and approach literally every situation as if they always have the right spell for it. In some gaming systems, they actually do.

I prefer settings where magic is some mysterious shit really dangerous to learn like in ASOIAF.

So my preference goes to shady weirdos who travelled to strange places to learn their art or respectable public figures who practice magic in secret.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w9OPlfGoNV4

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>>54154145
>record scratch
>Yep, that's me there, you're probably wondering how and why an eternally wise and sensible elf isn't in the forest, and instead got into this situation
>Well it all goes back....

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Unstoppable, nigh-omnipotent forces of nature with no sense of right and wrong.

Whenever my group has a session suddenly be postponed or we're otherwise in a lull between games, we like to run a quick and phenomenally stupid game we've dubbed Motherfucking Wizards for the lack of a better title. The premise is that everyone is playing as an extremely powerful wizard with a specialization in one specific type of magic (Ranging from mundane schools like fire magic or speed magic to weirder stuff like snake magic or math magic, plus one muscle wizard because of course) and the group has to solve a very specific problem while taking care to not accidentally make things worse as a consequence of their UNLIMITED COSMIC POWERS. It's just a generic one roll system, the wizards describe what they're trying to do and then roll to see if they succeed, usual stuff. If they're trying to do something that falls within their selected school of magic, they may add a bonus to their roll, as big as they like, but they also need to take care not to roll too high or their spells accidentally grow out of proportion and cause unintended side effects. The session ends when the problem established at the start of the session has been solved and there aren't any immediate (usually self-caused) threats to the wizards' lives. (Even if they do manage to die however they respawn between sessions because fuck you magic.)

We've had three sessions so far, in which the group tried to kill a dragon (ended with the dragon punched into particles and the village who wanted it dead destroyed four times over) disable a space station's tractor beam A New Hope-style (ended with the station slowly being torn apart by a recently created black hole) and helping a man move house (ended with the entire city being destroyed save the man and his new house). It's absolutely idiotic and none of us give a fuck.

>>54154011
Young and willing to experiment with this strange thing that is magic

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>>54154011

Female.

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>>54155148
That Wizard has entirely too much clothing on to actually be a female wizard.

>>54154011
like I like my coffee. I can't finish this joke

I like it when everyone is a wizard, but they just don't know it or forgot (and perhaps cast a spell on themselves to make themselves forget). Those who open pandora's box CAN'T UNSEE and are invariably driven mad unless their heart is made of heroic steel and their mind is sharp enough to solve whatever problem, paradox or realization keeps the sentient races trembling in their boots at the thought of remembering (a one in a billion chance). Reality seems to warp and conspire against mages both young and budding as well as old, too, as if it itself exists to protect them from the truth.

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>>54154011
Capable of pulling off some serious bullshit in the right circumstances.

>>54156121
>pic
and nothing of the value was lost

>>54156133
Missed my home by like 3 miles.
Whew

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>>54154960
This sounds like clean, healthy fun!

>>54156133
>t. city dweller

>>54156133
Anon, the SPAM Museum was lost. That's an international tragedy.

>>54154011
Burning on a pyre for "practice of Warpcraft most foul" and other charges of heresy as unsanctioned psykers!

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> "NOICE AN PLUMP WIFF LOTS OV MEAT ON 'IS BONES, HURR HURR HURR!"

>>54156121
What the hell is arcane greenness?

General purpose scholars and philosophers that attempt to decipher the metaphysical underpinnings of reality while communing with whatever "the absolute" there is. Occasionally casting spells.

>>54154011
i normally have my pc's who choose to play a spellcaster start off super duper weak. like, borderline carried, but still useful enough to want to be a spellcaster. Then when they see a REAL wizard, the party shits its collective long johns

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Like this.

Alien? Dimensional traveller?

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>>54154960
so basically zargothax

>>54154011
I like my wizards merry and traditional.

>>54154593
Shit, now this needs to be a thing. Someone needs to writefag this.

Limited in power and falliable. Characters and magic that can do anything are boring.

Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.

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Always ready with a fireball and a sarcastic joke in the face of eldritch horrors

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>>54154477
>respectable public figures who practice magic in secret
My fucking dick.

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>>54158799
Greenness is an Essence(read: nature) spell in Anima Beyond Fantasy. Arcane is the highest level of it.
The only caveat to a wizard being able to cast it is it's high magic, which requires them either A) becoming a supernatural creature, B) finding and tapping into a "Node"(think leyline nexus), or C) taking the metamagic advantage that allows high magic, but doubles the cost of the spell.
Expanded area is another metamagic advantage, with two levels. first level bumps the area of all spells with AoEs by 50%, the second bumps it by 100%.
So 600km radius of whatever currently existing natural creatures you want.
Prime choices
>Honey Badger
>Kudzu
>Gympie Gympie
>Tarantula Hawk Wasps
>Box Jellyfish(If it's a sphere of effect, it's 6.5 billion liters of death)
>Geese

>>54160983
my bad, 1200km radius with maxed expanded area.
>>54158933
Nice.

Weirdos. Complete and total weirdos who have very few things in common with one another besides a desire to know more and Fuck the consequences. Occasionally band together to share info. Hard to get more than five in a room together without an argument. Annoyed at sorcerers those fucking jocks. And hateful of those debtors of magic, the warlocks.

Virgins. Not because they're nerdy or busy but because the goddess of magic will cursed anyone who sleeps with them.She is a bit crazy.

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>>54161352
Curse them with what?
And does that apply to... other acts? http://oglaf.wikia.com/wiki/Ivan_%26_Navaan%27s_%27Doesn%27t_Count%27_Kama_Sutra

>>54160983
You forgot
>gaia is smol
Everyone gets fire ants!
And the wizards say the church is evuuul

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I like it when Wizards make sense, Wizards are interesting, and Wizards are fun. For this reason, the 'difficult, hard to learn, rare' magic shit /tg/ is in love with for whatever fucking reason needs to die.

Wizards should exist at all levels of society. Magic is not utterly common to be literally everyone is capable of using it, but magic creations and potions are common enough to be something people know about and have experience with. Young boys often pick up magic wands to test their magical talent; the ones who manage to actually accomplish an act of change or force are swept up into Wizard school. If they are a poor peasant, instead they are trained by a local master. Every village has at least one or two old wizards and witches around who attend to magical matters, craft love charms for horny teens, and generally be tolerated but given a lot of shit by the locals.

Young, poor charmcasters animate straw and toys to entertain children and the easily impressed, making a meager living on charity. Some Wizards are more permanent and well employed by nobles, some of them go up so far as to be Sorcerer Kings.

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like this

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hilariously absurdist. bends reality on whim purely for a sight gag and solves problems that don't exist.

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>>54163434
Not everyone. Not even a tenth of the Old Continent.
>Wizards decry the church
It's all Yehudah's fault.
t. Magus Order member

>>54163635
This but with less shota.

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>>54167095
>less

>>54154011
Preferably fighting in hand to hand combat and using spells to either augment allies or blast the everloving crap out of enemies. I'm sure something like this exists, but it's no wizard

>>54168240
Same. I always imagined having a White Mage type of character who loved to beat the holy hell out of enemies with their staff.

>>54154410
This has been my phone wallpaper for years.

It's another day at the Wizard's Council ,the same Council that tried to destroy the moon to make werewolf vivisection easier for those three pesky days a month*, there is a wizard that is musically cursed. After meddling in powers too demonically charged for him to comprehend he now essentially sings/Shatners all the time to communicate every thought, every utterance. He can't ask for someone to pass the salt without a rhythmic lilt involved.
He has an idea for a new experiment, a hybrid, a monstrous concoction that he had a vision of after chopping and pasting gnoll parts for too long. He goes to his colleague, currently doing tests on frog excretions by licking them to determine relative flavor/hallucinogenic properties, to see if he can find a collaborator.
He approaches the colleague's chambers and lightly raps on the door and clears his throat. In a quavering, slightly "touched" voice common to many of the long term Council members.
"Do you wanna build a goatmaaaaaaan?"
*The Druidic Order petitioned the arcanum to not destroy the moon. Not successfully, but it caused enough arguing that the issue has not yet been decided after being brought to discussion over 50 years ago. Several members still try on their own, only creating more craters. One, after sucking on the wrong frog, made a kind of face, but not everyone can see it at first and often it takes a bit of explaining from the "artist" himself.

>>54154347

Hey, those magic bees were useful! Once they calmed down and stopped melting the local farmers, at least.

>>54170965
>melting the local farmers
Let me guess, you decided to give them more choleric humor to speed up their production? Or are you the sort of fool who decides that bees would be more interesting if they were also on fire? The latter isn't strictly wrong, but any wizard worth his salt would have set up a ward first.

>>54168240

These tend to show up in "everyone's a wizard" games, like House Flambeau in Ars Magica or the Adamantine Arrow in nMage.

>>54171080

Nah, the NPC who made them just wanted some bees that could could fuel destruction magic. There were side effects. I actually based them on this:

http://objectdreams.tumblr.com/post/159834937359/beekeeping-manual-written-using-a-predictive-text

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>>54162623
this

>>54154011
Subtle and quick to anger.

>>54154011
eccentric and possibly gay

>>54174805
Fertilize the soil with bacon you worthless muckrakers.

>>54163635
That's literally a Cleric.

>>54174805
>We're starving!
>But we won't eat meat lol
Vegetarians are the worst types of people.

I like them wearing pointy hats with wide brims and indigo robes covered with moons and stars.

>>54176459
You can get by as a vegetarian.
Not well, and there's never a good reason to, but you can do it.

It's vegans who are consistently malnourished.

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Armored.

>>54160263
I always forget about the Dresden comic
and the tv show
that show should come back, but stick more to the books

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>>54158766
>Hey guys check it out, theres an ogre 3.4km northwest. Lets see if I can hit him

>>54176589
That's no wizard...that's a tree.

Crispy, with a side of ketchup and fries

>>54178046
I love Mage Eater draggos

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>>54177953
>trees can't be wizards

https://coinsandscrolls.blogspot.com/2017/05/osr-plants-forests-gardens-and-dryads.html

>>54176587
>Not well, and there's never a good reason to
You need to know where to get your protein and some microelements, but if you do that statement is just bullshit. Meat is tasty and that's about it. You don't need it, even if you're a gym monkey.

That being said, people who put their kids on vegan diets should be executed on national television.

>>54154409
Bearded dragon wizard?

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>>54154011

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Magic knight-flavored.

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>>54154011
Preferrably a Wizard should only have low to moderate ability for offensive magic like fireballs and lightning bolts but have access to some seriously high-tier reality warp, like dimensional travel, black holes, time stop.

They should also not be PC's and actively avoid using such magic because of the consequences.

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>>54154011

Old, bearded, badass and flat out better than everyone else.

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>>54154011
Unknown Armies style autistic obsessed "truth" seekers.

>>54154115
yes

>>54164075
Uncle Grandpa is seriously underappreciated

medium rare

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>>54154011
One side pissants, best mage comin' thru!

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>>54185522
This but with a loli under the mask and robes

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>>54154409
>>54160718

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Gizzard_%26_the_Lizard_Wizard

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>>54155148
Same char a few years later.

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>>54154011
Elfy

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>>54190462

Humans make for better wizards than elves, anon.

>>54163621
No, that's stupid because if magic was common then it would alter a fantasy setting so much that it would be far beyond recognition. There would be no castles, no pitched battles, society would have formed in a completely different manner, etc. etc. The Harry Potter setting doesn't make any sense because Voldemort is seen as this nightmarish evil entity but he's just your big standard bad guy with a sliver of ambition in a society of magic users who for some reason all stick like concrete to their retarded set of morals.

>>54177007
This reminds me of Afro samurai

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>>54160983
>>54156121
1200 km AREA not radius you dolts.
the radius of a 1200 km area is about 12 miles.

>>54192900
Depends on the scale of the magic.

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I like magic man from AT, although he's more of a sorcerer.
I just can't stand when a DM plays an arrogant "wiser than thou" character. If you haven't studied philosophy at length OR are significantly older than me, There's no way i can believe that you know things beyond my comprehension. It just destroys my immersion.

>>54194170
I'll be 21 by the end of the week (so I doubt I'm older than you) and I've only dabbled in philosophy, but you don't sound very wise.
> There's no way i can believe that you know things beyond my comprehension

It's possible to know different things than you without knowing more things than you.

>>54163621
This sounds nice.

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>>54174805
>>54174976
He can still help them, he just needs to turn the peasants into bacon.
It would also be a fitting punishment for being disgusting vegans.

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>>54177007
>not naming the File MEGUMIN.jpg

ya blew it

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>>54154011
Like Pic related.

Wacky and without morals xD

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>>54170709
Do you want to build a goatman is going to be stuck in my head for the rest then day

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>>54194004
Not according to the core book.
And the Core Exxet changes fanlation has errors galore, so I can't completely trust it.
Or do you know of a place where I can buy the Core Exxet book in English, in the States.

>>54154011
>How do you like your wizards /tg/?
fricasseed

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>>54154011
>How do you like your wizards /tg/?

DOT COM

>>54177007
Everyone not immediately thinking of Magicka when seeing this need to bonk themselves on the head

>>54154011
Not actually wizards.

>>54174805
>someone needs to photoshop a hijab onto her

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>>54198397
ah i see
the inconsistency is painful

>>54160215
Oh ye of low intelligence and no aptitude for creativity.

>>54194209
I won't be 21 until november.
Wise is a very fuzzy word, i'm not sure it has much to do with being "knowledgeable"
You're right that you can know different things than me without knowing more than me, but imo wisdom is a very particular kind of knowledge, having more to do with making the functionally/morally best decisions in particular situations, or having an understanding of what makes a particular decision superior in a particular category.
You can know more about russian literature, but wisdom (read: knowing things beyond comprehension) has to do with having experienced the opinions i currently hold and having moved past them through experience and intellectual reflection.
It's such an imprecise word i typically refrain from using it.

For example a lot of guys on here despise 5e. I would assume they've experienced superior systems and they could explain to me how these other systems trump 5e. But i don't know that they have this gaming wisdom until I've had this conversation. wouldn't you agree?

The bottom line is I've dealt with enough idiotic working class adults who misused their wisdom card to trust anyone's claim to wisdom unless it has already been demonstrated to me, and this character aspect bleeds into my roleplaying.

>>54170602
It is mine now too.

>>54197960
Where's the boobs?

>>54181025
Treasure

>>54200920
>Wise is a very fuzzy word,
It's actually not.
Wisdom is, and has always been, a word for describing decision making.
Making good decisions (relative to what you know) is wise, making bad decisions isn't.

>functionally/morally
Apropos of nothing, there's a distinction here, but not a very big one.
The idea of morality has roots in being able to do things sustainably.

>>54200711
It really is. It's the difference between a third of the US being swamped with gympie-gympie, and only half a county.

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>>54163621
>wizards should be sorcerers
wizards spend a long time to get a small amount of power in my campaign.
great wizards should be rare. level 1 wizard is an apprentice. level 2 wizard is a graduate. level 3-4 wizard is an average wizard. level 5 is a skilled wizard. level 6-8 is a great wizard. 9-14 is a famous wizard and 15-20 is a wizard who's tales will be told for centuries.


>wizards train for a very long time to be good enough to cast as spell fast enough to be combat effective. spells take a long time unless you practice really fucking long.
>sorcerers are extremely rare due to draconic bloodlines being rare and wild magic being even more so. these people are attuned with their magic to the point they don't even need to carry a spell book and just feel the magic as if it's part of them. as spell they know, they know like the back of their hand but it takes time for them to attune to a spell meaning they don't get many spells unlike a wizard

>a warlock gains limited power and needs to sell his soul. some warlocks can trick the sources of their powers to sell them the power for cheap. for instance a fey creature is being hunted and is in trouble so they agree to merge with a person for very little in return just to survive. otherwise warlocks are required to serve their patron. theit power is limited due to it being borrowed.
>druids use old magic that isn't as powerful in the modern age due to changing landscape. it is extremely hard to learn due to druidic being a extremely rare language but just like being a wizard, being a druid takes years of practice.

>ranger's defend the earth and are granted powers as a result, it is magic granted from the earth so it is limited.

>trickster and EK
people who dedicate just as much time to magic as they do to their main class role.

with these barriers and restrictions it's not unrealistic to assume magic could still be rare. or at least the type that allows you to be a murder machine.

>>54154011
I like my wizards like I like my fighters.
That means, I like them restricted to hell and back.

>a wizard should not learn spells from schools he did not belong to
>a wizard should not control water, fire, wind, and earth at the same time. The elementalist wizard controls one or two, not all four unless the wizard is exceptional to BBEG levels.
>a wizard will not magically learn new spells without practicing them before hand

Fuck D&D's demigod wizards, they make no sense. Much like their resurrection spell.

>>54154960
10/10, would play
Give us whatever you use anon

>>54200920
Get the fuck over it you angsty little shit.

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>>54154011
No different from Clerics, Druids, or Witches.

Wizards where magic is actually energy from another alien dimension and would kill you and the caster as soon as do anything useful.

>>54202497
>Making good decisions (relative to what you know)
You're describing strength of will (courage), not wisdom.
/knowing/ which are the right decisions to make is predicated on knowing what right means.

>The idea of morality has roots in being able to do things sustainably.
The etymology of a word has no necessary connection to its use in a culture. I would like to agree that there is little distinction between the two, but i make the distinction because people like you and i are few and far between.

Even if we assume that right action is identical to sustainable action (it isn't), until you have data to support a course of action, the sustainable path is fuzzy, therefore knowledge of it is fuzzy, therefore the line between wise and not-wise is still fuzzy.

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>>54207000
>just accept that I know what i'm talking about without me easily demonstrating my understanding of the subject with evidence.

>>54210252
I've dealt with children like you. You can't grasp the evidence. You willfully let it fly over your head because it's easier than confronting the fact that someone might actually know more than you.
People basically aren't human until they're in their late twenties at least.

>>54210321
women need an extra decade, though

No battle mages. Wizards that are capable of going "Feh" and zapping a bandit before hobbling through a portal or just floating away in a combat scenario.