Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Someone help me Genestealer Cult. Coming back in the game, don't have a clue and here is where I'm at:

Magus
Patriarch
Primus
Iconward

Purestrain x 20
Purestrain x 20
Purestrain x 20
Purestrain x 20

Neophyte Acolytes x 16
Neophyte Acolytes x 16

Acolyte Hybrids x 20

Aberrants x 6
Aberrants x 6

Goliath Rockgrinder
Goliath Rockgrinder


*Note I haven't decided on what specials to give the acolytes
**It says "From the Mining List Weapons" and "From the Heavy Weapons" but I don't see those lists in the Index
***Purestrains look like a steal @ 10 points now
****Please respond :)

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First for Metal Gear

Why does /tg/ hate the Ultramarines? Don't punish them because of Mat Ward.

Do you think we'll see Primaris Assault marines with jump packs?

>>54151033

I wish. The interceptors look like shit.

Which one lads? I'm gonna try them all, but which should I do first?

Grand Master Voldus
>Apothecary: Nemesis hammer
>Paladin Ancient: storm bolter
>Paladin Squad: 4 paladins
>Doomglaive dreadnought
>Terminator Squad: 7 terminators
>Terminator Squad: 7 terminators
>Interceptor Squad: 6 Interceptors
>Interceptor Squad: 6 Interceptors
>Razorback: Twin Lascannon
>Razorback: Twin Lascannon
Good amount of lascannons, may be useful since vehicles are so good.

>Grand Master Voldus
>Apothecary: nemesis hammer
>Paladin Ancient: storm bolter
>Paladin squad: 3 paladins
>Doomglaive Dreadnought
>Terminator squad: 6 Terminators
>Terminator squad: 6 Terminators
>Stormraven gunship
>Interceptor squad: 8 interceptors
>Interceptor squad: 8 interceptors
5 drops. Kickass.

>Grand Master Voldus
>Apothecary
>Paladin squad- 4 paladins
>Terminator squad
>Terminator squad
>strike squad- 10 knights
>strike squad- 10 knights
>Stormraven- hurricane bolters
>Interceptor squad- 7 interceptors
>Interceptor squad- 7 interceptors
All these storm bolters will fuck over armies short of MEQ.


I gotta say the doomglaive naught pleasantly surprised me. At only 168 points, it combines the best parts of a Dreadknight and a venerable, and is cheaper than both.

I hope we get psybolts in our codex.

>>54150957
Looks ok, though desu you may want to mix things up a bit more- if you don't get off a good charge, or for any other reason get caught in the open, 90% of armies will demolish you.

A good way to fix that is some AM Tanks, maybe drop one genestealer blob and sub in whatever you need to kill hordes. But looks scary for fighting elite armies, you'll tear my knights to shreds

How good are ravenwing bombers in the new edition? I want to do a super troop light DR list and don't like ravages that much.

>>54151119
>A good way to fix that is some AM Tanks, maybe drop one genestealer blob and sub in whatever you need to kill hordes

Thanks anon! I know there has to be gold in the AM Index but I'm so unfamiliar with Guard I don't know what to get there

>>54151196
Just get a baneblade

>>54151196

Also, if I take a detachment of Guard/AM for example--that detachment can include other stuff like Aeronautica Imperialist units too? I'm just not real familiar with detachments but it looks like from the main rulebook, if I take a detachment that includes an Air Wing...I can take Valkyries and such in a GSC

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>Land speeder
>ws3

>Genetically engineering perfect bioweapon designed only to rip and shred apart it's enemies in close quarters
>ws4

>>54151056
do good on the table.
Tough Heavy bolters into your back line can really mess up an opponent.

>>54151241

>no highlights on tail

why?

>>54151022
I can't speak for everyone, but I just find them boring and bland. It's like being in a gourmet bakery and choosing fucking Wonderbreas. You could run literally any chapter; space yiffs, blood angels, white scars, even the homoerotic dark angels. But you just choose the guys who are most well known for two thing.

1. Being blue.
2. Not having anything particularly notable about them.

Just why?

>>54150961
> raped bodies of SPESS MAHRINES and Imperial Knights scattered around the feet of mighty T'au superior battle suit technology
How can the Imperium even compete?

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Why should I pick Orks over the T'au?
I want to play small games (1000pts mainly) and don't want to sell my kidney

>>54151056
Inceptors seem more like attack bike replacements than assault

>>54151241
I get so depressed about my own painting when I see stuff like this.

>>54151285
Because Orks are the WAAC army this edition

>>54151285
Well Tau might struggle at that low a points level, while Orks can just drown the opponent in bodies at any level... so if you care about winning, there is that.
But if you don't want to spend that much money, I would go with Tau

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>>54151297
I don't this is airbrushed and therefore not actually painted

How do you guys like the necrons? I've been running some form of mechanized list (ha) but I'm finding that it isnt as anti-armory as I want.

What have you guys been running?

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I'm planning on running Straken and Nork together, but I'm using this model as a count as Straken. I was wondering if there were any good Ogryn count as models out there in Sigmar or 40k that you guys know of that I could mess around with.

>>54151325
I played against Necrons a few times and whatever that spider tank is definitely did serious damage to my tanks.

>>54151241
Landspeeder is TOO FAST for enemies to move out of the way before they're roadkilled
Carnifex's swings are slow and ungainly, making them quite possible to dodge

>>54151311
Well, I really like scrappy orkish mechs like Deff Dreads and Killa Kans but for T'au I prefer their infantry the biggest T'au mech I can stand are crisis suits.
I also have two other game-hobbies so budget is pretty important for me

>>54151196
Heavy bolters are your friend, hellhounds would be a decent compliment to the bumrushiness of your army, but Russes (while not the killiest thing ever) can take a ton of heat and lay down a good amount of anti-infantry.

I don't remember which GSC can take them, but flamers are good too. Just find a way to deal with chaff and you're good, the mathhammer charts in the OP are a good guide

>>54151285
>Why should I pick Orks
You shouldn't

>>54151430
No.

>>54150862
First for Infiltrators get nerfbatted again

>>54151375
Well if you are good at converting you can basically make your own army of ork kans and dreads for cheap.
And with Tau at 1000 points, you probably won't be going much bigger than a single riptide or ghostkneel anyway.

Grenades are no longer assualt weapons anymore so no using them after advancing right? Also grenades, krak grenades, cannot be used in combat with vehicles or monsters anymore, just throwing them beforehand, is that correct?

>>54151427

Yeah I keep debating between Trucks with demo charges vs. Leman Russ x 2.

Leman Russ seem...very good this edition.

isopropyl alcohol works to strip paint right and doesn't damage the plastic?

>>54151510
Russ is only good because it's a stable heavy flamer platform.

You can put many more flamers in a open topped truck. But it'll be prone to getting recked

Flamers R bad is a shitty meme with 0 math or theory behind it.

>>54150957
the weapon lists you're looking for at at the very beginning of the Genestealer Cult section. On the same two pages as Cult Ambush and their Psychic discipline in the "Wargear" section

>>54151544
Yup. For best results, use 91%.

>>54151568
The Guard LR in a detachment with a stock battle cannon + las cannons wouldn't be a good anti vehicle option? It seems pretty strong.

I know I can handle infantry right now. I'm worried about tanks.

>>54151650
Thanks anon!

>>54151544
It might be worth mentioning that it works, but the results may vary due to the used paint. Also, not all types of glue get dissolved by every fluid you use. For complete guides, ask Google.

Wait Are meltabombs no longer a thing?

>>54151498
Read the rulebook. This isn't even complicated.

>>54151119
>5 drops
setting them in reserve is a drop though

>>54151241
WS 3+ because there are space marines swinging dicks off of it, and they are WS 3+. otherwise GET BACK SHITPOSTER BACK I SAY

>>54151785
Well i was pretty sure that it was no for both but i just wanted to check as they were things previously and i didnt read anything similar about them in the rules

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Best models to convert Renegade Marauders? Tempestus Scions look good but I'd need other bits for shotguns, but I could use chaos warrior heads and they'd look good, but I'm going for a Roman Theme....

>>54151674
people say this but there are some paints that wont be removed by much except by the strongest of solvents... most of which will eat through the styrene of the plastic models aswell

>>54151022
>>54151270
All four of the main 'iconic' chapters, due to being pushed as mascots at various points in the game's history, attract a lot of people that love them, and a lot of people that hate them.

For the Ultramarines, I can see the appeal people have in going for the most 'soldier'-y of the iconic dudes. Blood Angels have their space-vampire-mutant thing going on, Space Wolves are some increasingly imbalanced mix of Viking and Furry, and the Dark Angels are all Space-Goth-y. The Ultramarines are soldiers, pure and simple. Some people like simplicity like that.

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Can anyone tell me what the bit of heraldry I circled in pic related is? Not sure how to paint it.

Are there rules out for the deredeo yet? Can't find any

Am I reading it wrong or a FW manticore battery can fire basically 4d6 300" lascannon shots on round 1?

>>54152166
White and black checkering?

>>54152249
yeah for 120 points you get to nuke every vehicle on the board

its not like FW ever playtests their shit and so far its pretty obvious they didnt even proof read this shit.

Do buff auras work from inside transports?

>>54152363
Not unless they say they do.

>>54152363
read the rules on transports.

Come on people, there are only 10 pages of rules

>>54150961
Damn that robot has a huge sack.

>>54152166
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon_(heraldry)

Paint your dude's heraldry in it.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/04/forge-world-unit-focus-the-stone-crusher-carnifex/
>FW thinks OOE buffs their carnifexes
>He objectively doesn't

>>54152441
How doesnt he? They have the Carnifex keyword

>>54152439
Suck a dick.

>>54152456

> Master Crafted
> AP 0

Kek

>>54152502
The rule doesn't specify a keyword, it instead uses a unit name. This might actually just be a typographical error, but he only buffs the regular carnifex unit.

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>>54152552
>I spend hours on end looking for idiotic rule nuances that I can then point out on a Indonesian Blackmarket image trading website
>FW isnt a part of GW

>>54152456
>For full rules see Codex: Space Marines

WHEN?

>>54152552
This is one of those things where they will release a FAQ and instead of using Errata to alter the rule to say <CARNIFEX> instead of Carnifex they'll just have the question:

Q: Does old one eye's Alpha Leader ability affect Stone Crusher Carnifexes
A: Yes

Leaving us with a rule that is worded inconsistently with its intended effect for no reason.

>>54152602
There are half a dozen units with rules worded in similar ways, the same is true in AoS, in AoS there is a FAQ saying that rules that specify unit names affect only the named unit, and don't interact with keywords at all. This is a thing that actually impacts gameplay quite a lot.

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ColdStar Commander w/TargetLock & Shield Generator x6 = 888 points.

Wtf do I with the other 1112 points ?

>>54152552
If you're being that pedantic, then it wouldn't even work for 'Carnifexes'

>>54152166
Whatever you want it to be.

>>54152711
While normally speaking I'd agree GW consistently doesn't make a distinction between pluralized and singular names, "carnifexes" is also comprised of "Carnifex" models. By the same rationale if Old One Eye buffed units based on keywords he would not buff regular carnifexes at all, because they do not have the CARNIFEX keyword, they have CARNIFEXES.

This also affects Longstrike and the FW hammerheads and a number of other leader units that do not buff themselves.

>>54152693

139 Gun Drones

So Thousand Sons without Magnus are utter trash, right?

>>54152299
Might as well go for it. I already did plenty of experimentation with other stuff I'd never used before. If I can do it I think it'll look solid.
>>54152439
Ohhh. Okay. Its the banner bearers personal heraldry? That makes sense. Thanks.

>>54152909
Your argument for that being?

>>54152089
>>54151270

Robby G makes ultras fucking amazing and he is, himself a monster on the table.

Also, Space Romans are cool.

Ultras are vanilla, true. However, their whole schtick is being adaptable to any type of fighting.

They don't excel at anything but they always know how to apply to proper tactics and strategy to any situation that may arise.

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What is the best built for pic related?

>>54151768
Anybody?

>>54151278
Fish people exist only because they're insignificant.

>>54151319
>I'm a retard: The post

>>54153154
Double skorchas.

>>54153154
Either Double Skorchas or one skorcha and three klaws

>>54150961
God that looks so stupid.

>>54152523
D2

Any pics and/or scans of the new WD?

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>Fury of the Emperor
>Once per game an intercessor squad may declare a Fury of the Emperor attack at the beginning of your shooting phase. Until their next shooting phase, change their bolt rifle profiles to Rapid Fire 2. They may not fire in their next shooting phase after performing a Fury of the Emperor attack.

>stalwart defenders
>If the intercessor squad does not move in their movement phase, any bonus from cover is increased from +1 to +2. Furthermore, if an enemy unit declares a shooting attack against another friendly unit and their line of sight passes within 1" of an intercessor, the enemy unit suffers a -1 penalty to hit. This does not affect units that ignore line of sight.

Choose one strategy at the beginning of the game before deployment.

r8 my freeblade lore

>was saved as a child by celestine as a child
>ever since he has been obsessed with her
>follows her wherever she appears just to get a glimpse of her
>wants to protect her like she protected him
>knight lancer covered with iconography relating to her

>>54152909

Tsons are okay and Magnus is demigod tier.

>>54151022

People always hate the best. At some level I think it's human nature to root for the underdogs.

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>>54150862

> Play Catachans
> Harker, a Saber with Searchlights, and 3 Manticore Batteries
> 430pts
> Turn 1, dump 12D6 9/-3/D6 shots into anything within 300"
> Hit on 3's, rerolling 1's

By numbers that is around 96 wounds to essentially any vehicle in the game.
That is 5 Stormravens out the sky.
That is almost one-shotting a Warlord.

>>54153744
Autism/10

>>54153793
>42 shoots
>31 hits
>20 wounding hits, or 70 wounds ignoring any save enemy may get

Would you trade a guitar for tau?

>>54151961
If you like Temp Scions, use Genestearl cult neophyte shotgun carrying arms from a 3rd party bitz seller

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> ywn be this gleeful

Why even live,

>>54153721
Is this homebrew, wishful thinming or what?

>>54154009
To be fair, they aren't living either.

Hey tg for 8th edition do the wounds caused by smite roll over to other models if the first one dies? Or are they lost?

>>54154103
roll over I think - it works like AoS bolt

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I'm looking at possibly getting into 40k -- looking at different factions to figure out what I might like.

So far, my ideas narrowed down to:
>Imperial Guard
>Tau
>Chaos Space Marines of some sort
>Space Marines of some sort

Most of the Space Marines chapters I've read about and liked have some kind of identifiable flavor theme, which may or may not carry over into the tabletop. Space Wolves are Viking warriors, White Scars are Mongols with bikes, etc.

But I can't tell what the deal is with the Crimson Fists. They don't seem to have the same siege specialty as the Imperial Fists. What is their thematic hook? It can't just be that they're Hispanic, can it?

I was wondering if you can take units from different armies in the same detatchement.

In my case, I play grey knights, and wanted to include two dreadnoughts in my army. However, I think paying 17 points for them just so they can have a 12" 1 damage smite, which is kinda useless when I'm equipping them as ranged fire support with Lascannon/missle launchers.
Is there anything stopping me from just using normal, space marine dreadnoughts instead of the grey knight ones? Could I fill them in the madatory elite slots of my grey knight vanguard detatchement? Since both units have the keyword Imperium, shouldn't it be legal? Does this mean I could also grab any Imperium unit I want and tack it onto my existing force?

Can SoS + Inquisition be a decent, fluffy army list? I was thinking of running a Culexus too for maximum FUCK PSYKERS.

>>54154132

Yes, that is exactly how the rules work.
You don't play Grey Knights any more, you play Imperium. Where 'Grey Knights' now means 'this specific HQ lets them reroll shit'.

>>54154120
Hate orks, stubborn and good at shooting like the fists. Like sternguard and the ordo xenos.

>>54154120
Crimson Fists were suppose to be just Imperial Fists who like the Codex A LOT. Until their fortress monastery was attacked by orks and their super missile defense system blew up most of the chapter.

They're specialty is having more veterans than most chapters because their young recruits got blown up. Reason why in 7th, Pedro was able to take veterans as troop choices. Not to mention they super hate orks.

>>54154009
Nice try, Nurgle.

>>54154120
Crimson Fists were, along with Black Templars, the get shit down guys. This included some jobs for the inquisition censuring other SM chapters, which has them a poor name.
The last big thing was them nearly being wiped out due to Orks, and struggling to rebuild.

>>54154120
They are essentially all veterans and scouts, with nothing inbetween, since their homeword was attacked by a massive ork WAAAAAGGHH. The veterans are the few survivors, and everyone else in the Crimson fists are all neophytes/new recruits, which are used as scouts.

If you like the idea of playing lots of fast, sneaky scouts as your troops, being supported by a couple of hardhitting veteran units like terminators or sternguard, play crimson fists.
Also, Space Mexico is a pretty cool aesthetic imho.

>>54154166
>>54154168
OK, thanks. That helps, but it doesn't grab me quite the same way as some of the others. I think I can cross them off my list.

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Posting the best fluff-abiding rape list I can manage with the models I own. The only thing I'm really worried about is horde armies, and that's only once the Fire Raptor is dead.

>>54154210
More like Space Spain

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>>54154222
>>54154226
Speak of the devil.
Have you ever of Space sharks?

>>54154222
Crimson Fists are really just one of the many underdog chapters. Much like Lamenters but without the tragic "We've got so much bad luck and stubborness that out chapter is literally a hundred guys."

>>54154103
Mortal wounds roll over, everything else does not.

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>>54154132

Of course you can

Rate my battle-forged list

++ Patrol Detachment (Necrons) [53 PL, 994pts] ++

+ HQ +

Overlord [7 PL, 112pts]: Warscythe

+ Troops +

Immortals [8 PL, 153pts]: Gauss Blaster, 9x Immortal

Immortals [8 PL, 136pts]: 8x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

Necron Warriors [6 PL, 120pts]: 10x Necron Warrior

Necron Warriors [6 PL, 120pts]: 10x Necron Warrior

+ Elites +

Lychguard [8 PL, 150pts]: 5x Lychguard, Warscythe

+ Heavy Support +

Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 203pts]

++ Total: [53 PL, 994pts] ++
Any thoughts on this list?

>>54154132

You can do that, except remember that 17 extra points is actually worth a ton because it means your dreads can be affected by gate of infinity and hammerhand, which gets you turn 1 threat and wounding knights on a 2+ respectively. Having extra Denys is always nice as well.

>>54150961

Remember when tau were firm believers that big mechs were inefficient?

>>54154292
>2001
Get out of here

What are you guys equipping your Death Company squads with in 8th?

>>54153744
So some autist that crushes over Celestine.

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>>54154292
By God.
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN.

>>54154307
You start losing faith in your ability to field smaller robots when your enemy has a 50 story tall robot slapping them away like flies.

>>54154294

rop 8 gauss immortals, bump the tesla to 10 and get a cryptek.

Bump the warriors to 20 each, drop the lychguard

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The spores-theory was always unconfirmed or has GW just deconfirm it in Xenos Index?

>>54154309
>Get out of here

Toooootally not intentional

>>54154341
It's still spores. But no one can get close to the orks without getting stomped on to really study them.

But most times people just use flamers and light forests on fire to make sure orks stay away.

>>54154296
I'd pay if I were using them as melee dreads, since then they'd also benefit from havig smite, but I'm using them as objective campers for long range firepower. (Lasmissle)
They don't need Gate, since they don't really want to move, and casting hammerhand on my paladins seems like a better use of the power than on a S6 Ap - dreadnought.
And the extra denies haven't actually ever come into play until now, either they've been out of range, or I have enough other units to deny.

>>54154292

> Not filling your Brigade with Undersized units of 1 to maximise your fluff

How does one deal with 3 Stormtalons?

>>54154387

List was made before FAQ and FW

Should prolly update it with FW stuff for even more factions, but builder is dead.

>>54154418
Conscripts.

>>54154418

See >>54153793

>>54154431
How about ork boyz?

>>54152456
I really want to like primaris but the keep making them bad.

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>>54152693
Pic related is what I field

>>54154473
The only good one is the Lt.

>>54154489
Pics of these meme-tier list

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Here's some of my big goth kids.

Had a lot of fun working on them.

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>>54154512
>butthurt Astartes RetardatesTM

>>54154489

>12 non-commander non-drone units

Unacceptable

>>54154533
I dont have enough drones. but im slowly getting there

>>54154522
>want to get into RG
>the whole time im reading about them I just think of lame emo Night Lords and less cool Space Sharks

>>54152456

>pLib gets 1 more wound
>+1PL and no Jump pack, termie, or bike options

Hrm

>>54154554
did you just imply that space sharks are less cool than RG, or the other way around?

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>>54154554

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>setting up your 2000 pt game
>opponent hands you this list, and starts unpacking his models

How do you deal with THE FLOCK?

>>54154009
Gulliman, I'm AIDS.

>>54154554

I wanted to play a Chapter of Robert Smiths.

NL and Carcharodons are too edgy for my tastes.

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>>54154584
Space Sharks are infinitely cooler than RG.

>>54154627

i'm not a fan of any of the FW pet chapters desu

>>54154600

>Start packing your shit

>Well played anon, it was a really close game

>>54154473
The stalker captain is not horrible. He's fairly cheap and he can hang back and buff hellblasters without wasting his own damage potential.
And in a pinch you can throw him under the buss to stall a assault unit for a turn while the hellblasters haul ass.

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>>54154627
That's what I needed to hear

>>54154600
>>54154489

Come at me faggot

>>54154600
hmm, he will be fielding as many troops as my grot army.
BRING ME MORE DICE!

>>54154655
Starting my first army and its going to be Primaris only (this army is 5'10 plus) And would love to play spess sharks but i think the rules and their models would suck shit.

>>54151303
>Because Orks are the WAAC army this edition

So they went from LNMW to the opposite in the new edition?

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>>54153154
go super cheap - 2*big shoota
or
go double rokkit
or
full melee - 4 klaws

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2000 points Drukhari List

BATTALION +3 CP

1× Archon [Agoniser, Blast Pistol]

1× Farseer Skyrunner [Witchblade, Doom, Fortune]

3×5 Kabalite Warriors

2×5 Scourges [4 Dark Lance]

3× Ravager [Dark Lance]

4× Venom [Dual Splinter Cannon]

AIRWING +1 CP

2× Razorwing Jetfighter [Dark Lance, Splinter Cannon]

1× Voidraven Bomber [Dark Scythes]

Comments and Critique welcome!

>>54154647
Carcharadons/Space Sharks go all the way back to Rogue Trader.

>>54154709
Rules for a Primaris only army of any chapter will suck shit mate because Primaris have literally no redeeming features apart from looking kinda cool

>>54153337
>>54153411
>>54154730
Well, I'm gonna run 30 shooty boyz and 10 nobz so full melee Kans and Dread might be a good idea

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>>54154765
>Drukhari list
>Farseer

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>>54154778
Thats not going to stop me from making a shit army, all I need is cool models. Only playing casually while drunk vs my two best friends who are equally retarded as I am

>>54154600

That's not even the most efficient flock list you n'wah.

I get out my superior flocka list.

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When was the last time GW released a proper multi-pose model for 40k? Thousand Sons, eight months ago? I was expecting some primaris releases with actual options this month, but everything they are putting out seems to be more monopose stuff. Is this the new direction they are going in?

>>54154799

Perfectly legal mein anon, mine is modelled like it's been tortured and corrupted. Aeldari are super friends now.

>>54154828
>I get oit my superior list
>Doesnt post any list

huh hun

>>54154522
those are gorgous

>>54154406
Could be anyone in your life, really.

>>54154844
Why ? 99.999% of marines player dont pose their marines.

>>54154793
Is that 10 nob models in total, or just a 10 man mob of nobz filled with big choppas and klaws?

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>>54154850

It's common knowledge no?

Ynarri list
150 flocka flocka
Yncarne for fearless and fnp bubble
Yvraine for the spells
Beast masters for rerolls to hit
Farseers for doom rerolls to wound
Maugan ra and illic for sniping.

Are legal bases 32mm or 25 mm now? I was getting ready to order some Imperial Sector bases but it looks like it's a mish mash of the too? Or just player choice?

>>54154844
>A new product line addressed stricte to newbies
>Related with same mono-pose starting set
>>Is this the new direction they are going in?
Yeah, but just for newbies stuff in my opinion so don't panic

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>>54153168
Most of my references were WW2 italian paratroopers. I just need a catchy name for the regiment, their homeworlds, and some tactics that make them distinct

>>54154844
no, the mono-pose shit is retarded popular with little kids that doesn't know how to pose/convert shit

they sell like hot cakes, perfect way to launch the new line (literally their entire future, at least as far as 40k is concerned) in GWs eyes

>>54154828
Yeah, I could branch out into ynnari, get a yncarne for FNP6+ and immunity to morale tests, and a farseer for doom.

>>54154522
How did you do the writing so fucking well?

>>54154873
In total. I'm building a small army (1000pts) of 10 nobz, 30 boyz, a painboy, a warboss, a deff dread, 3 killa kans and a trukk

>>54154910
That's probably from a transfer sheet.

>>54154925
THERE ARE TRANSFERS WITH WRITING?!

>>54154924
So are you going to have two squads of five spread out to punch running boyz, or just have them in one unit to herd the boyz?

Even at 1000 points, I would use at least 60 boyz.

>>54154522
They look really good.

/tg/ the Forge World indexes are riddled with typos. Is it best to buy the books now and bite the bullet or hope for a second updated print run?

>>54154845
>also raping fluff because psykers + Commorragh = bad

Fuck off waacfag

>>54154968
Ynarri changed that dog.

>>54154962
>FW
>ever not having typos

lol

>>54154968

lol kys fluffbunny your kind are no longer desired by the TOURNAMENT TESTED AND APPROVED 8th Edition™

>>54154897
Hay no fair giving the dude a gas mask and a helmet. The girl has a significantly higher chance of survival now!

>>54154962
Forge World take forever to update their shit. If you need the books to run your army, might as well just buy them now. There's little chance of a second printing and even if it does happen it will be a long time.

>>54154989

Except he's playing dark eldar, not Ynnari. Ynnari aren't even worth responding to because they're worse than tau faggots.

So I came up with this-
Necrons- battalion
cryptek
overlord w/ power sword and orb
2x 14 warriors
5 immortals w/ gauss
1 stalker w/ particle beamer

Spearhead
cryptek
3 annihilation barges

Flying detatchment
2 D-scythes and one night scythe

1999 points
Thoughts?
Its got 8 RRs and is tailored within an inch of its life to get a stalker in there. I only have 30 warriors and wasnt wild about doing 3 units of 10 and no immortals. I also dont own any destroyers

>>54154949
two squads and painboy to fulfill the vanguard detachment I think
>I would use at least 60 boyz
Yeah, I know that boyz are the backbone of ork forces but I'm not gonna lie - I'm not the fan of gorilla-butt boyz. I like Orks for mainly their machines. Maybe I will buy more boyz in future but money actually does matter.

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Lord of contagion I painted up, might add some kill trophies to him for the enemy warlords he kills

>>54154844
Chill, there are already rumours of the real kits with weapon options and shit for Primaris, coming soon along with a new SM book, wait for next WD

>>54155066
It's just good to have troops in general. Your walkers will probably get targeted first, then you're just stuck with one blob of boyz to run around and try and do something.

>>54154522
Diggin it. This is the first gravis captain I've actually liked the look of. I think the contrasting helmet color helps a lot. Might do white or black on my imperial fists captain.

That's a rad banner, too. I like how you used the transfers on the bottom - I think I'll do the same with >>54152166

>>54155101
Always the fun part of games, adding stuff to your minis. My two warbosses have eldar and daemon bitz from killing warlords one on one.

>>54155048
>3 annihilation barges
That seems like 2 or 3 more than you need, especially with the croissants bringing plenty of tesla shots themselves.

>>54155124
You got pics of 'em?

>>54155101
I think the trophy rack is a bit too white, maybe a brown wash?

what is it like having friends to play the game with?

>>54154968

Psykers come in the commeragh all the time, under the escort of harlequins.

>>54155227
Like chewing five gum.

>>54153744
Tell us more about the childhood incident from when he was a child

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>>54155181
Biker boss that killed a daemon prince in single combat a long time ago. Made invul and feel no pains out the ass just to one shot the prince with his klaw.

>>54155227

Great, our warhammer group has 800+ messages a day and always guaranteed a game every Wednesday, most Saturdays. But i also live in Nottingham so can go WHW within 5 minutes.

>>54155157
Idk, they zip arround and they are p cost effective. I guess immortals would be a better investment

>>54154962
id say the safest option would be to buy the e-version

>>54155300
* destroyers

Genestealer Cult bros, is this a good idea for vehicle popping?

Goliath Truck with Demolition Cache
10 Neophytes
2 with Mining Lasers
144 points


So for 144 points, you get a mobile little anti tank unit that can toss D6 demo charges from 20" away. If they blow up the truck (when), you have 2 las cannon shots essentially.

Seems decent?

>>54153447
Thank god! I was starting to think I was the only one who thought that!

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>>54155270
>unthinned paints

>>54154793
The reason you take skorchas over melee isnt for shooting, its for the overwatch. Dredds are great when they charge but bad when they get charged, the skorchas mean if they get charged by terminators or genestealers they dont just act as a giant points hole.

>>54154968
Commarragh is currently full of Slaanesh daemons, vect jumped ship.

They're not in business of enforcing any rules right now.

>>54150961
So why didn't Guilliman genocide the T'Au with his not!Legion?

Those xenos are pretty intent on taking imperial worlds, castrating and brainwashing the people into serving the 'Greater Good'

>>54155110
Well, I can not argue with you because I know you are right but for now I will try my best with a single boyz blop. At least to the point when I can afford buying 3 boxes of them

>>54155363
he cant do shit vs crisis with 3 flamers

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>>54155181
Warboss that fought Eldrad and beat his poncy ass, even with his ability to regain wounds. Got him a little eldar banner

>>54153299
>I'm the real retard, the post

>>54155363

Ultras are wtf i love xenos now

>>54155363
Because he would get rekt so hard that we won't have enough forces to deal with Chaos. The T'au are like the most potent military force in the galaxy.

So if I wanted to try and run a KSons equivalent of the Death Guard starter force, what would I run?
Trying to make a fair game against my mate's Primaris.

>>54155374
Just stick rokkits on your kans and keep them in cover. Should last a bit longer and can camp on an objective if you need it. Everyone else pretty much has to move as a single mob or you get picked off.

What's more threatening, the ten nobz other there or the giant horde of boyz coming at my gunline.

>>54155385
>>54155270
good shit my dude.

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There are many Poxwalkers.

Many are better painted.

But these are mine and are the first models I've painted. I made plenty of mistakes but I'm glad its not a 'thick paints' horror show in my opinion.

>>54155066
> I'm not the fan of gorilla-butt boyz
Maybe invest in some troops which don't look so bad? Grots are great little scupts and handy for grabbing objectives. Fairly cheap too.

>>54155414
Exalted Sorcs, Chaos Lord, Rubrics, Tzaangors

>>54155422
Yeah, paint job isn't super spectacular but they always fill me with WAAAGH! energy with their trophies.

>>54155431
Ah you've gone for the old 'out-of-focus photo' approach instead

>>54154522
What's your sarge markings?
I see vet. srg. is rocking the white shoulders.

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>>54155407
>Look dad I posted again!

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>>54155431
You should try this Anon
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/13/the-model-photo-how-to-photograph-models-for-display/

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>>54150862
Add the /tg/ 40k discord server to the OP next time.

discord.gg/VcZNNd4

>>54155385

Nice man, I mounted the shouting ethereal on my Tantalus with the venom spike that has a kroot head on it through his chest. Pissed my tau mates off something fierce

>>54155412
>The T'au are like the most potent military force in the galaxy.
>Ghazzy already dropped by and pimp-smacked an entire Tau colony before he went off to go play meatgrinder with the Nids
Suuuure they are anon. The vegan blueberries are in for a rather rude awakening if they think their military force can go toe-to-toe with any other major faction in the galaxy right now.

>>54155468
Fuck off.

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>>54155447
>>54155463

My room has terrible lighting, issue isn't so much focus as shadows.

>>54155468
no

>>54151319
>Airbrushing is painting P2W.
Can't argue but fuck.

>>54155363
T'au are still pr'etty low down o'n the threat l'ist compared to the s'tuff the I'ndomitus C'rusade was designed to d'eal with. It w'as pretty much 100% C'haos focused, other factions g'ot a free pass b'ecause they hadn't r'ipped the galaxy in t'wo.

The only reason the Tau are still alive is because they are too small a threat for anyone important to care about.

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I hate painting tiny details

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>>54155490
(^;

>>54155470
Did the same with my nob WAAAGH banner. The Black Reach set I had was missing and arm for the sergeant so I didn't know what to do with him. So I cut him up and mounted him on my banner. Just to taunt all the marine players I was used to.

>>54155412

Nice falseflag shitpost guardcuck/cuckmech kid

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Literally the first model I've ever painted. I know it looks like ads, but is the color scheme okay? I can't paint but I at least would like the colors to look good if you're looking from across the table.Aso any tips to get a better closed or the helmet?

>>54155507
shit dude thsts really nice. great job

>>54155494
As far as I can see it's a pretty good job Anon. Well done

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>>54155513
Looks great my friend

>>54155507
TEACH ME TO BLEND

>>54155437
Ah, not allowed a Lord in Sons.
Daemon Prince too hardcore?

>exalted sorcerer nerf literally killed half my lists

Why live?

>>54155433
Yeah, I have to work out some kind of purchase-plan. I wanted to keep this party as budget as possible and base my army on boxed deals like SC! box or Ork Warboss Grukk's Boss-Mob

>>54155507
The only thing I don't like is the pool of wash on the scroll and plaque

>>54155561
b-b-but wait for codices! ksons will be treated well then!

>>54155569
Could just buy the Stormclaw set and sell the Wolves and just keep the orks.

Gets you some grots too.

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>>54154897
>laser modello 38s

>>54154365

And it seems to work, so the predominant theory seems to be the most borne out in practice.

Also, the Farsight Supplement explicitly describes Ork spores settling and growing from the rust deserts of whatever planet Farsight was fighting them on, so it's also borne out of fluff. The Imperium as a whole probably knows the procedures, but confirmation of the theory is probably only confirmed by several researchers who have studied Orks, while everyone else settles on the tried-and-true methodology of burning out their habitations with fire to keep anything Orkoid from coming back.

>>54155414
Couple of sorcerers, box of rubric marines, couple of boxes of cultists or tzanngor and a heldrake or forgefiend?

>>54155561
To be fair they were 86 pts to a Sorceror's 90
Not a bad price for WS/BS:5 & +1 A/W

>>54155577
>inb4 Rubricae get a 6pt bump.

Also, Ahriman now stronger psyker than Eldrad
It finally happen
NPC races BTFO.

>>54155623
Never a forgefiend

They define trash tier

>>54155607
Even the War of Octarius described the tyranid micro cells trying to kill the ever expanding ork spores.

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>>54155600
That was actually the whole reason I came up with the regiment. I just wanted to make lasguns that looked like beretta submachine guns.

>>54155607
Didn't the enclaves firebomb an entire planet to permanently purge orks?

>>54155623
Sounds good. Should I be trying to balance this with power or pts?

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Anyone know if there's a download of pic related anywhere yet?

>>54155624
Hmm that is a good point about them being cheaper than sorcerers.

Still, kinda annoying now I'll have to rewrite a lot of lists to fit into appropriate levels.

>>54155652

Yeah, buying ;^)

>>54155634
I always thought forgefiends and maulerfiends were cool to use. But could easily backfire.

8th editions seems to have made them usable with their ectoplasma and regenerating wounds. Though still doesn't fix their mediocre hitting.

They seem to work best in pairs, never mix flavors just stick to one.

Decided to repost this from last bread. I came up for an idea of a Forge War book, where the Traditionalist Admech rally a great armada and smash the Tau Empire with orbital firepower and landing expendable fighters on their worlds to fuck shit up before leaving, and attempting to draw away the Sept fleets. If that didn't happen so they couldn't Exterminatus the Sept Worlds, they'd lay siege and grind the bastards down at their isolated strongpoints. The campaign result would be to splinter the Tau Empire into five-ish chunks, two normal Tau but battered and bruised, two under Mech siege and one Farsight Enclaves attempting to do whatever, but also send Tau refugee fleets scattering across the galaxy and setting up wherever they think they'll be safe, to give them an excuse to meet and fight more people and have their viewpoints varied a bit from one homogenous mass to several individual Greater Good variants.

Just to make them more spread out and interesting, showcase a couple of their faction problems and provide My Dudes with a shamelessly self-promoting day in the limelight, although I did come up with a little short story about one of the Admech fleets being betrayed from a Radical Clade within them, who wanted the Tau planet saved from being glassed so they could yoinks and study their tech, as well as taking a chance to get one-up on their rivals.

Hence, Mechanicus fleet No. whatever is gutted of ground-deployment capabilities and heavily damaged when their main warship blasts their troop transports to smoking ruin and slugs it out with their brothers because MY PLANET REEEEEE rather than asking for a week to deal with things, which I thought was suitably Admech.

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>>54155676
Idea was that the Mechanicus force starts out unifed, but when they think they've won and disabled the main Tau threats they start scrapping and screeching among themselves, not often with actual guns, but it means that the Tau still have half their empire left. Also provides an excuse for later Admech Schism book if Cawl notes the "senseless waste of resources" and steps in with his Radicals to fight the suddenly militant and sabre-rattling Traditionalists in a grab for power and intra-Admech Rep Points, since we already know he wants to be Fabricator General.

>>54155675
Maulerfiends are fine
Forgefiends are awful
If it ever moves, it hits on 5+. that is TERRIBLE for 185 pts

>>54155591
Don't think they sell that one any more.

>>54155698
Didn't they sorta do that already? Showed up in force, started to win. But then peaced out when they got what they wanted and let the other forces of the Crusade just get blown away with their lack of technological might.

>>54155646

They did so in various ways, all of them themed with fire and volcanism. Though one was just by creating an engineered rolling firestorm that swept through areas while ground teams mopped up the survivors. And Farsight engineered it so the Ork Warboss would be singled out in the center of a flaming tornado, so that he could meet him in single combat.

Farsight kind of loves fire.

>>54154941
Look to forgeworld

>>54155731
I love the enclaves
Torchstar rules when

>>54155705
Sure they're great at defense missions, park them behind some ruins and mow down whatever tries to take your castle.

Hades autocannons are at least 48 range and if your worried about terminators deep striking too close you use the ectoplasma.

How do I use my techmarine on a bike without giving him a bike? Just put him on a long base? I want the harness and I think it would look stupid on a bike

>>54155766
You do you, anon

I magnetized mine so it's not an issue but those guns still aren't painted because I've never used it as a Forgefiend

>>54155777
By putting him on treads from the Ad Mech guys

>>54155777
have him standing next to his ride

>>54155513
really good for the first fig ever. think your paints some more and it'll look even better

>>54155673
I'll buy it if it's good, Black Library is too much of a gamble.

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>>54155730
Something similar, but this isn't Radical Magi wanting tech, this is a war of extermination. Also a full campaign, not one Clade over three planets tops.
Rather than showcasing many individual skirmishes, it would be a strategic book, with maps of the Tau Empire and descriptions a little bit more like the HH Istvaan things, rather than a Regiment-scale battle tops. Individual battles would be a flavour thing and inserted for different points of view, rather than just giving an excuse for Hero X fights Hero Y. I feel the Admech and the Tau can show their differences and relative weaknesses off better on a larger scale, and I will admit this is somewhat about beating the Tau up a bit and making them less complacent.

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>>54155751
When we get to see her out of her mech.

>>54155486
They went toe to toe with the imperium two times and defeated them.

>>54155512
Nope.

How do Skitarii play in 8th?
i'm finally gnna take the plunge and buy some models, and it's them or Mechanised Imperial Guard which I hear is a bit shit this edition and super expensive

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>>54154489
>I just like the faction

>>54155806
Think they already got beaten up with the big firestorm covering their planet and setting SPACE ITSELF on fire.

Not to mention the SPACE FIRE is now WARP SPACE FIRE that will probably vomit out daemons.

>>54154489
Drones can take 3 weapons?

I don;t play tau so im not 100% sure what im looking at

>>54155591
The stormclaw box seems to have everything I need but it is not avaliable anymore and ebay is not a thing in my country - I will pay more for shipping than for the box itself

>>54155857
It's crisis suits equipped with three flamers each with 2 drones to tag along with them. Making them have a blob of 12 drones to act as bullet shields.

>>54155851
Daemon Space Fire went out after a few months apparently, thus allowing the Tau to send their fourth Sphere of Expansion, which got nommed by Warp. Undeterred or apparently not hindered at all by losing a whole fleet intended to significantly expand their small empire, they instantly sent another one.

8e plot makes less and less sense by the minute.

>>54155791
That's a cool ass idea but I'd have to get it on a bike base to be fair no?

>>54155792
Also viable but hard to fit

>>54154489
>target lock on something with assault weapons
Anon what are you doing?

>>54155890
Bit a waste of a weapon or a plot point to have a "No one's seen the tau empire behind the veil for years. Until now." And have them charge out hopped up on psyker juice piloting super giga robots.

Just kinda snuffed out and the Tau are like "Hey, shit turned purple, lets send troops at it!" And expansion fleets are suppose to be a good chunk of their forces but they're willing to keep throwing bodies into the Warp.

>>54155766
Hades Autocannons are only 36"

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>>54155898
Get an oval from AoS,
Pic is my Lord/Sorc on Bike/disc/Juggernaut

>>54155885
Appreciate the spoon feed, makes sense

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>most are consumed by their own passions and ultimate fall into the embrace of Slaanesh
Oh my.

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Slightly better picture.

You can more easily spot the errors from this lightning.

Dang these guys are small though, its almost impossible not to make mistakes. Can't imagine what its like to have tiny tiny models as the entire basis of your army. Plague Marines feel so chunky next to them, its like a whole different hobby.

>>54155910
not him but I think the coldstar will be using their 20" advance move each turn

>>54155999
So? That's still 3+ to hit. Better off with rending on those bad boys, or multitracker.

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I'm trying to decide what chapter to go with for my Primaris Marines, which chapter is the edgiest out of all of them?

>>54155507
Why, because you can't use your airbrush?

>>54156043
Lamenters.

>>54156043
the ediest is marine malvolent/ Cacharodons or whatever the soace shark are
Theres no way someone above 12 liles that

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>>54156045
>Phil Kelly wrote that the First Damocles Crusade was so huge that it would have put fear in the Tyrant of the Maelstorm
>The Second Damocles Crusade was much larger and had one of the biggest tank battles in the history of the Imperium

The Tau won in both wars. Why do people continue to underestimate the T'au?

>>54156045
The only thing airbrushed on the model is the wings because fuck trying to get those done cleanly with a brush

>>54156043
Marines Malevolent

>>54156091
Opps. linked wrong post.

>>54156043
Spehs Sharks.

Nothin' personal, kid: The Chapter

>>54156087
>phoneposting

>>54156043

>Sorcerous Auspex, in its wall-mounted casing:
>Whose questionable morals should I be chasing?

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>>54156091
What does that have to do with airbrushing Celestine?
I wonder how much shit I'll get from converting some snapfit cadians, eldar, and cultists into tau. Pic is not mine, but it looks cool

>>54156043
Marines Malevolent, Space Sharks, Iron Hands, Black Templars and Flesh Tearers are probably the most asshole chapters amongst the marines.

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>>54156108
>PCposting

>>54156143
>Not posting from your smart-fridge

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The store next to me has a 50% discount on stormboyz boxes. Are they any useful this edition? Should I pick a box or save the money on something else?
they have also a 50% discount on nobz

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>>54155600

>>54154888
lmao who even plays with you

>>54155431
Use some purple or green wash on some bits to have a nice helping of extra zaz.

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>Read Dark Imperium
>The Emperor does not love men
>But he loves mankind

That's a nonsensical contradiction, right? How can he love humanity if he does not love men?

reading GS II right now, and apparently Yvraine did this

>She landed beyond it,
icking up a fallen Wych’s blade with
her foot and hook-kicking it into the
brain-like sac that protruded over the
nape of the Tyranid’s neck

The quality is beyond retarded

>>54155533
Yes I understand I need to thin my paints. I have never painted a mini before in my life and am still struggling with getting the right consistency. It keeps ending up either far too watery or too goopy with no good in between. I'm mostly concerned if the colors look like ass because I don't want to waste my time painting more models that color if it doesn't go well, regardless of if my painting skills suck dick.

>>54156177
bad writing

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>>54154968
>Words on paper dictate how I enjoy my hobby

>>54156177
Ze's a feminist

>>54156177
Because they are imperfect for now but you like what they could become ?

kinda like how communist still exist in western developped countries, while making literraly zero sense

>>54156154

They are quite good, but as all orks unit should be ran at max squad size.

Stock up

>>54156177
He's no Karl Franz.

>>54156043
Exorcists. Literally get possessed by daemons as part of their initiation rituals, which somehow makes them extra pure instead of corrupt as fuck.

>>54156201
>feminist
>didn't create female primarchs
>didn't create female marines which is something Fabius Bile questioned since the female is much deadlier than the male in the human species and in general

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>>54156177
>Post ending in 7's

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>>54155815
Torchstar best girl.

Can someone tell me how tall a necron warrior model is, not including the base?

>>54156250

tiddies