Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Nth for a 99% obscured vehicle that is not touching cover gets no a over bonus.

First for kinda not so friendly 1k list. Anything I could add or remove? All the troops and the librarian will be in the land raider turn 1, camp objectives after that and let the raider, predator en whirlwind do the heavy lifting while the librarian smite some guys that got too close.

Librarian: Combi-melta, Force stave
2x Tactical Squad: 3x Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combi-melta, Power sword
Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Meltagun.

Tactical squad: 3x Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-melta, Power sword
Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Meltagun

Land Raider Crusader: 2x Hurricane bolter, Twin assault cannon
Predator: Predator autocannon, Two Heavy Bolters
Whirlwind: Whirlwind vengeance launcher.

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>>54136958
Go away.

>>54136952
>Vehicle that isn't in cover doesn't get a cover bonus

No shit.

My manlet marines keep decimating primaris. My buddy's chaos manlets keep molesting primaris. Why GWs put out these shit units?

>>54136975
To appease their napolean syndrome.

Necron/CSM poster please post. We need non guard content.

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Working on my Thousand Sons, I've lost the two games I've played with them in 8th so far. Are they viable in matched play without Magnus?

>>54136974
>you can be almost completely behind a terrain piece, therefore meeting the real world definition of being in cover, but because you arent touching the obscuring terrain piece you get no bonus

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>>54137003
IRON WARRIORS IS BEST

>>54136975
Same reason blobguard are better. Ironically, GW has made muhreens even numerically smaller and elite at the same time they've release an edition that favours large blob units.

>>54136952
>put you vehicle behind cover
>forget to move it in contact with said cover

There's no rules against shooting your own units either, guess that means everyone's going to forget not to.

>>54137007
What list are you bringing?

I wish hot shot sniper rifles were a thing.

How am i supposed to play Adeptus Custodes without using unbound?

Nth for one Pink Horror can turn into 5 Plague Zombies, the Brimstone Horrors fusing into singular zombies.

>>54137026
Imperium.

>>54137040
Honestly, given flesh changing and warping, this seems totally legit.

>>54137007
Let me know if you find a way. I know my TSons got hit hard with 8e.

Multiple exalteds don't really serve a purpose.

My best bet is Rubrics backed up by tonks and Daemonengines

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new hellblaster models spotted in WD.

>>54137025
Isn't that what a Transuranic Arquebus is?

>>54137026
Use the Imperium tag and use an Imperial HQ. Inquistors are a fairly fluffy choice and Coteaz in particular looks the part.

>>54137053
Nice. Hopefully some non-monopose dudes finally.

>>54137021
This is true. Even against hellbaster for the same price i can take double the models, move, shoot, charge. Then dish out 2 attacks per model with chainswords and mow it down with volume of attacks. Whats sad is the same thing happens when i'm on the recieving end of a blob charge of orks.

>>54137084
This. I actually want to do a Primaris chapter. So need more stuff

>>54136928
>complains about p2w
>plays a miniature game
>?

>>54137050
Nope. GW must have thought 1k Sons were OP, despite all 1k Sons armies just being Magnus in a Daemon army...

...only for 8th to be Magnus in whatever Chaos army you want him in since he's a Lord of War and can be included in his own detachment without any restrictions otherwise.

Dunno if the kits are out yet, but the really simple Primaris were at the GW I saw.

They're pretty much like Stormcast eternals, a few bits, each with holes to slot in the parts.

Kinda neat.

>>54137053
In other breaking news, contact has been lost with the RMS Titanic during her maiden voyage. More of this story as it develops.

>>54137023
It's actually worse than that. Vehicles need to be "wholly within" a terrain piece and 50% obscured to get any cover. Meaning that in all practically a vehicle can never benefit from cover even if the only part of it that can be seen is a single antenna poking up from behind a wall.

>>54137024
>>54137050
I've been running three Exalted Sorcerers, a unit of Scarab Occult, two 10-man Rubric squads, a shooty hellbrute, two tzaangor squads and some spawn as a screening unit for ~1850pts. I've got more Tzaangors coming in and thinking about just one Exalted and a DP for HQ, swap the hellbrute for a las pred.

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The list is actually 2012 points. Fucking Battlescribe

Any suggestion about removing those extra 12 points?

>>54137113
That's normal, multipose comes later.

>>54137123
Don't forget, breathing is voluntary.

>>54137023
Says you target an enemy unit soo....

>>54137020
Best aesthetic
Most autistic

>>54137020
Is that you?

>>54137113
So snap-fit you mean? I'm okay with this - they are made for newbies

>>54137170
Almost like Marines are targeted towards 12 years old.

>>54137135
I'd honestlynsay drop the power mauls. I get why you want them but its the easiest way.

>>54137170
Yeah, store manager showed them off to some 7 year old kids.

Asking them to 'help him' by snapping them off with some cutters and then showing them glue.

Night lords or Carcharodons? I have a bunch of old armor marks from Calth and BoP, and I was originally going to use them as Night Lords for both HH and 40k, but HH is stuck in shitty 7th edition, which killed any interest I had. I still like Night Lords, but now that I'm not limited to a founding legion, I realized I can also go space sharks.

I never realized how hard this choice would be.

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Now that our purestrains are usable I would like to formally request to be recognized as our own faction, independent from the <Hive Fleet> shitposters

>>54137191
Or two girls from the Retribution squad.

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>>54137003
>The Daemon Prince! We destroy that, and it's over!
>AAAAH, SERGEANT, OUR HEADS

>>54137210
HH might maybe definetly go to 8th edition some time soon maybe later.

>>54137212
In that case you get to take their place as the worst army in 40k.

>>54137231

Except they've already announced they will be releasing an updated version of the 7th rules for HH

Warhammer newfag here, what is a good space marine ground vehicle I should get for my first army?

>>54137212
GSC are literally a tax so tyranids can take a Astrum Militarum units now.

>>54136904
>>54136951
Both the Vanquisher and the Exterminator aren't very good, but the Exterminator with a Tank Commander has pretty consistent damage.

>>54137258
They will probably, most likely cave.

>>54137212
Just like your army, you are stuck forever in your overlord's shadow.

>>54137259
Predator. Either with all lascannons

>>54137219
I think they'll get more milage than mauls.

>>54137259
Conscripts

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>>54137123
Incorrect. The "on" requirement for terrain is a within, not a wholly within. The second question of the Rulebook FAQ states this explicitly. So a vehicle just needs to be touching a terrain "area" somehow and 50% obscured to benefit. Often times being right behind a ruin or building with a base will take care of that.

Infantry have to have every member of the squad touching the terrain, but each model doesn't have to be wholly within either.

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>>54137161
Best Legion

>>54137259
If you mean tanks, I don't think you can really go wrong with a Predator. I think the suggested loadout floated around here is...autocannon turret and lascannon sponsons? I admit mech marines isn't a specialty of mine.

>>54137259
Rhinos. Never wrong with Rhinos. Easy to build and paint for a newfag, transports are always needed and they look neat.

>>54137193
When's he gonna show them how to play by having them kill warbosses on a 3+ with 4 attacks and a 3+ save while he swings back 2 attacks on a 4+ and a 6+ save?

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>>54137293

Comments on my JSC?

2x - Primus (76x2)
4x - 20 Purestreain jeanstealers - Purestreain talons (200x4)

1x - 3 Malanthropes (270)
6x - 3 biovores (108x6)

1x Primaris psyker (40)
3x - 6 ratling (42x6)

>>54137212
>good psykers
>okay genestealers
>terrible everything else
I call people taking magus as a supreme command for their tyranid list so they can take IG artillery.

>>54137225
I dig that scheme on the marines. Also sweel job on that daemon prince skin. You gonna add anything to the white blade?

Ahriman better & cheaper than an Exalted Sorc
Typhus better & cheaper than a Lord of Contagion

Welcome to the REAL age of herohammer.
Leave 'your dudes' at the fucking door.

>>54137293
After reading Hammer of Olympia, I feel confident saying Perty is the shittiest Primarch. Even Lorgar achieved more.

>>54137319

>3x - 6 ratling (42x6)
(42x3)

>>54137290

I have a ton of those. I went 50/50 on the Dark Imperium boxed set with a friend who wanted the Death Guard army so I got the Primaris army. I bought a librarian too.

>>54137284
>>54137295
>>54137296

Thanks, I will get whichever is cheapest at the store and add the others to my list of future purchases. I have painted lots of other Bones minis so I have some experience with painting.

>>54137319
Malanthropes do not affect GSC units in any way.

>>54137274

I'm not going to make my 40k choice based on a "eh, they'll probably switch eventually". Even if I go with sharks, I can use them as RG or black shields in HH anyway.

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>>54137259
The Predator tank is super solid, you won't go wrong with that. The standard Land Raider is more expensive, but still very good and can make a fun centerpiece model.

>>54137372
Sisters a cute!

>>54137327
I wanted the sword and claws/horns to look like bone. I thinned some white and used it sort of like a wash, then did some white highlights. Might have overdone it a bit.
The Marines are Minotaurs, still lacking their other shoulderpad and the backpack. I'm sure I'll do it someday.

>>54137360
Well in that case it's a choice between dinobots and primetime marines.

>>54137356

Malanthropes are sitting in the back, each with 6 biovores around

>>54137322
I will not get mad at someone who does this so long as all their "Imperial Guard" units are Tyranids dressed up in flak armour.

>>54137264
Or a superior source of massed rending, cult ambush, cheap buff characters, dedicated transports and heavy weapons.

>>54137331
>muh your dudes
Topkek @ this snowflake autism

>>54137349
Rhinos are cheaper but don't buy one over a predator. The chassis is the same but the predator is a tank version whereas the rhino is a troop transport that does comparatively little.

Get a predator, they're easily the best ground vehicle this edition in terms of cost effectiveness and rhinos are just a dumb transport.

Daily reminder you can use command points to re-roll the roll off during a rules dispute by RAW in this edition.

This is the first edition of the game that actively encourages rules disputes. And it's so badly written you can look forward to plenty ! Yay.

>>54137337
My version was p pornographic so I'm not sure what the take away is.

>>54137413
cult ambush is shit now.

I've been reading Wiki articles about 40k, since I only ever cared about Necron lore.

It's impossible that Lion'El Jonson and Luther are the same person right?

>>54137337
BL authors seem to love shitting all over chaos characters

>>54137322
I've played GSC for 6 years and I agree with this. But now they're 10 points a model, massed purestrains with character backup will at least be fun, even if not effective.

>>54137413
The buffs only work on GSC units, which are trash, neophytes are worse than termagants and can't deploy via trygon tunnel and purestrain genestealers need a patriarch to be fearless.

>>54137438
Dude, I told you brah, the scatter dice is obviously pointing towards your unit, and the small blast template is hitting 12 dudes. Get some glasses man.

I remember someone mentioned that dark eldar could subsist on positive emotions such as laughter, instead of negative emotions, such as pain, if they tried. Could someone elaborate on this Dark Eldar Vegetarian movement?

>>54137025
Laser snipers already use hot-shot cells.

>>54137458
Yes. One is a genetically engineered Primarch, the other is a genetically enhanced human (not even a space marine)

though knowing the Dark Angels they probably tried their best at occupying the same space :^)

>>54137489
It's all documented in the movie Monsters Inc

Why are Dorn marines dumb and jobbers all the time?

>>54137471
BL authors shit over everything sadly. They seem to think that turning everybody into autists is the same as character development.

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>>54137518
This is bait.

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Is it worth getting a Rhino for Rubric Marines?

>>54137508
Pls, I like the idea of a story where love blooms between a wych and her unreasonably happy pet monkeigh.

>>54137518
Fuck you Beast(s). You're still dead.

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>>54137518
>>54137559
There's a certain precedence.

>>54137559

Not according to the books

>>54137508
>Archon discovers joy actually makes him stronger
>proceeds to make his Kabal as heroic and selfless as possible, spreading cheer across the galaxy
>all for selfish reasons
>humans willing join them
How much more tau can we make this?

>>54137478
Hive Fleet genestealers can deploy via trygon tunnel (which can give them synapse) or via tyrannocyte, both of which are must-take this edition. Cult ambush is mediocre and unreliable by comparison. Not to mention that units like the swarmlord don't interact with GSC stealers.

Nobody is going to use GSC as anything but tax if they have both Tyranid and Astral Militarum units.

>>54137489
Why though? It's far easier to hurt someone than make them laugh. Also, they would have to spend half their life in comedy colleges keeping up to date on the latest imperial memes so that their shit doesn't get stale.

Nothing worse than your stand-up performance bombing so hard you starve to death and have your soul devoured.

>>54137567
Generally Rubrics really need the added mobility. Specially now that they only move 5'' you'll never get anywhere if you footslog everything

>>54137130
Any reason you are running multiple Exalteds?

The lack of powers just makes them an overpriced Lord.

It's 127/161 pts for an Exalted (with and without Disk) vs the 156/180pts for a Daemon Prince (with and without wings)

Personally I'd rather pay 19pts more and get a winged DP to provide a harder hitter beatstick (plus provides the Reroll 1s aura)

>Also really grinds my gears that if an Exalted Sorcerer takes a Disk they lose out on their Reroll Invulnerable Saves of 1 aura as they no longer are Infantry.

>>54137486
>Cross eyed guard players who scatter so poorly I have to help them properly scatter even when it's causing more hits on my guys
KYS

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>>54137381

I know. The choice isn't easy. Sharks looks pretty good as Primaris, even though I wouldn't be using to many of them.

>>54137582
Comedy is way less risky than raids though. The worst thing people can do if you bomb is boo. The worst thing that can happen on a raid is you get bombed.

Has anyone found a good and fast way to remove the aquila from the Chad-marines without ruining the breastplate. I want Chaos Primaris.

>>54137574
I will admit the Iron Cage was retarded.

>>54137582
>"Why did the mon'keigh cross the road?"
>"Dunno, why did he J'ímm'y?"
>"Because he had to go to his slave job working for a dead guy on a golden throneand pray to said guy so he has a slightly better chance of not being devoured by the infinite horrors of hyper-hell!"
>Mad laughter across Commoragh

>>54137638
It's not an aquilla, it's an astartes symbol. Just glue a chaos star onto it.

>>54137576
>laughter produces the most energy
>joins up with a bunch of Harlequins and makes the ultimate clown troupe

>>54137489
Well Dark Eldar have to 'feed' on pleasure and the suffering of others because Slaanesh is slowly draining their souls away. Because Slaanesh is involved I have serious doubts about positive emotions having much effect.

Not that the Dark Eldar would even consider doing that even if it did work though. They're the offspring of the Eldar that fucked, raped, drugged, murdered and mutilated Slaanesh into existence after all.

>>54137568
Less disgusting than GSC.

>>54137567
Yes.

https://mega.nz/#F!CVkVTDqJ!qQfT1437iEAZ5ufmEdG4sA

All the 8th ed epubs/pdfs, as in the OP, except the pdfs have errata commented in - enjoy. Xenos 2 currently uploading.

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How do you draw on viewscreens without making them ass?

>>54137674

Chaos god represent the positive spectrum of emotions as well as the negative, and feed on that too.

But since the galaxy is a grimdark shithole, the negative emotions are the prevalent aspect.

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Do Eldar even experience love?

>>54137682
What do GSC have to do with this?

>>54137767
In an obsessive sort of way, yes.

>>54137774

Anon is butthurt about 10pt purestrains.

Ignore him

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>yfw marines are the first codex of 8e and all marines are in one book

>>54137674
>I have made children with this mon'keigh, an act so vile and depraved she who thirsts is blinded
>the more children made, the more glaring the lights of excess
Granted that would only make slaneesh take a keener interest.

>>54136958
nice painting scheme
imma stealing it

>>54137674
Imagine a society of Bright Eldar, who go out on raids, kidnap the lesser races from the wartorn hellholes they call home, and bring them back to a literal paradise in the webway, where their every need is seen to, and their constant happiness sustains the bright eldar.

Of course, nobody ever leaves the paradise, so the Imperium thinks that anyone getting kidnapped is just getting fucked to death, and continues to fight against them.

>>54137774
They are the only ones to do interspecies crossbreeding.

>>54137807
That's just an article. Hard to say if it will even have any rules.

>>54137331
>Leave 'your dudes' at the fucking door
Thank god. OCdonutsteel mongers please depart.

>>54137807

Incorrect. I've seen the first codex and it's plague marines.

>>54137850
As long as it doesn't end up like Fire Emblen's Arcadia.

>>54137234

nigger you what?

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>>54137767
Yes.

>>54137003
Sorry, I'm on my holidays.
t. newfag csm

>>54137264

fuck off with your "tax faction" bullshit shitter
Git gud

>>54137850
Humans become unhappy with any environment after a while. They'd have to have either orgies or massacres for it to be worth their while after the initial joy of being rescued wears off.

>>54137053

So the actual kits have hoses and a different backpack? Just from that image they look cool and kinda different. Hope the legs aren't as shitty as the snap fit ones

>>54137807
>I don't know what index astartes means

>>54137275
SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>>54137322

>>54137924
Please go ahead and play some games with a pure GSC list and see how well it does.

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>>54137884
Why so? I kinda enjoy seeing custom armies with converted stuff and background.

Unless you've seen nothing but a parade of snowflakes, but even then it just makes blowing them up more fun. What's the worst snowflake army fluff you've ever seen, anons?

>>54137850
So are we making a /tg/ homebrew faction for these new "bright eldar"?

>>54137930

Humans wouldn't have experience the heightened pleasures possibly by the haemonculi so I think they'd be satisfied for their lifetimes

>>54137322
>terrible everything else
Nice opinion shitter

>>54137930
If the tau can do it so can the eldar.

>>54137930
That's why they need to constantly kidnap new humans, because they let any who wish to leave go. It's just none have ever been able to return to the imperium. Most join up with groups of corsairs and explore the galaxy free of the imperium.

>>54137889
Is it good and also plz when does it release.
More importantly: is all termie list viable?

>>54137850
Why not make that a subsect of Commoragh, like a form of Space Hashashin. Convince them they're in paradise before sending back to their hellholes to serve as a 5th column?

Come to think of it, how come Dark Eldar don't use spies/saboteurs that often prior to raids proper?

>>54137441
How dummy?

>>54137966

Power From Pleasure
Haemonculi Gourmets and reconstructive beauty surgery

>>54137960
On a more realistic GSC related note, I've always wanted a guard army with close combat monsters guarding massed artillery, what is the best overall artillery to get my army started with? I was originally thinking basilisks but that's only about 2-3 hits per shot

>>54137578

FUCKING GAYS WHORESHIT
FUCKING STUPID BRITFUCKS

>>54138010
>can't redeploy
>can't reinforce
>less likely to get your key charging unit a turn 1 charge

>>54137965
Nazi space marines.
And while it was the worse the guy was great to play against. Kind of a missed opportunity he didn't do a Hitler chapter master.

>>54137020
he says, posting an ironhand

>>54138009

They do is the basic answer, it's not reflected in the index/codex. Dark eldar are known to spend years playing spooky ghosts with the locals of a planet before actually attacking so they're at breaking point, it would be silly to think they don't do reconnaissance or have terrorists setting up for their arrival

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Was here a heretic /tg/?

>>54138001

Dunno man i wasn't that interested, just wait til release day which is on the 11th

>>54136928

>GW core isn't P2W

Lol.

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Good List or Bad List?

>>54137965
There's been some BAD space marine hombrews.

>>54138012
Cheerleader wyches and bubbly popstar Succubi would be an important part of the army

>>54137966
>>54138012
Haemonculi are Willy Wonka: they have mastered the art of creating candy filled wonderlands pleasing to every race.

>>54137605
Fluff and to fill points mostly. I didn't realize the restriction on psychic powers until last week.

>>54138039
Thats more lack of cult insurrection detachment and return to shadows, but yeah nine inch charges with no rerolls is fucking brutal.

>>54138073
He certainly isn't a heretic.

>>54137966
>people hate the tau for not being grimdark
>but it's okay when I take one of the sickest and most evil groups and make them not grimdark

>>54138048
Sure they weren't just Red Scorpions, anon? ;)
Chap here who plays those even describes them as Spess Nazis to people who don't know them. He's chill, has one of the old Lucius Warhounds that he brings out to beat on the store WAACfag whenever he gets uppity, like when he spent all of Saturday crowing about how 7e Guilliman could beat anything and taking it out on the new players and kids. Next Saturday, Admech and Red Scorps coalition blasts his UM to bits as the Warhound kept getting fixed by my two Domini.

>>54138113
>one wins through the power of anime against opponents that should crush them and is somehow involved into major conflicts
>the other is some lighthearted homebrew idea on a pomeranian basketweaving board

>>54138016
They're legitimately all good now. Basilisks and manticores are great.

>>54138073
No.
There was a theretic.

>>54138113
/tg/ homebrews are not meant to be taken too seriously, while still *technically* being possible within the setting

>>54138152
God dammit

>>54138113
are tau players the most butthurt of all players?

>>54138147
Tau are fantasy High Elves but replacing the melee with shooting.

>>54138175
I'm only butthurt about shield drones irrelevance.
Otherwise I'm happy this edition.
And I count riptides as vehicles seeing as stormsurges are.

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>>54138113
Lighten up. /tg/ is not GW.

>>54138197
Know the touch of Cruddace.

>>54138175
The most butthurt players are the ones facing tau.

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>>54137965

>>54138207
Was he the one who fucked up Nids?

>>54138048
>nazi space marines
>implying this isn't a fun concept that's fun to play as and against
There are way worse OC shit out there and this is the best you can do?

>>54138224
He's the one who wrote the last 2 tyranid codexes and was one of the two lead designers of 8th edition.

>>54137965
Does anybody still have that screencap of of some 12 year old's snowflake marine chapter that was a combination of GK, BA and AdMech or something ?

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What Ork vehicles are good to use this edition?
If I was looking for a tank type vehicle what should I use?

>>54138273
Ugh.
He even looks fucking retarded.

>>54138241
Yes, because I don't come across a lot of oc.
He's the worst by virtue of being the only one.

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>>54137003
I just did in the WIP general :D
Heres some older models I've done though

>>54138277
You mean the Knights Inductor?
We don't talk about that anymore.

>>54138298
Wouldn't that imply that he's also the best then? And the most mediocre?

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>>54138277
You did this to yourself

>>54137428
>>54137884
waacfags go home

>>54138312
My brain began to melt and I had to stop reading

8TH EDITION IS SHIT!!!

It might be a little less shit than 7th edition was...

...but it's STILL SHIT!!!

Is there any way I can find groups, locally or online, that play editions earlier than 7th or 8th???

>>54138338
>not only playing 2nd edition with your close friends in your local gaming club which has a full bar

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>>54138312
>The Red Thrust
D-did they?

>>54138312
This will never not be funny in an inherently cancerous way.

>>54138338
No.

>>54138338
Maybe you should try different wargames, because 40k clearly isn't meant for you.

>>54138304
Nice converting job.

>>54138292
Battle wagon with a deffrolla.

8th is great if only by virtue of the fact it made me interested in every factions units, except imperial scum of course

>>54136928
Not trying to be a waac fag but can i take eldar units in my dark eldar army without going ynaari? Like could i take a Battalion detachment of Drukhari and a Patrol/Spearhead/Vanguard/Outrider detachment of Eldar? I'd obviously need to fufil the minimum unit requirements and the points I'm just wondering if you're allowed to do this since they're both Aeldari and i don't want to be shoehorned into playing a Ynarri list

>>54138292

Trukks aren't the cheap wonders they used to be, but no transports are. Still good for boarding parties

Battlewagons are neat or large squads or as super dakkatrucks

Orkanauts are hilarious. No one cares they aren't superheavy now. Enjoy your 8in movement on T1 and carry Nobs forward

Stompas seem inferior to their FW ruleset as per last edition. Gaining Gaze of Mork (heavy 4d6 shots) and a self repair crew is well wrth the pts cost (though there is an argument that stompas are overcosted now as a whole.)

Bommer aircraft are great, Wazbom KFF is wonderful when placed right, haven't tested dakkajet rules

>>54138394
Do they share faction keywords?

>>54138408
How do people not understand this.

>>54138312
He forgot to apostrophise "emperor's" and "sanguinius's".

>>54138292
Orks don't actually have that wide a variety of tanks. Battlewagons are good, slap on a hard case and a deff roller for a good smashy tank.

Other than that, orks have very light and fast vehicles coupled with walkers.

>>54138394

You don't even need to do that, just price a farseer into a full drukhari detachment as they share the Aeldari tag. Only thing is most stuff in the asuyranai or whatever they're called only effect each other. Doom for example works with drukhari but fortune and guide do not.

>>54138356
Where do you live?

Are you telling the truth?

>>54138408
They share Aeldari is that enough?

>>54138394
You can even put Eldar and Dark Eldar units in the same FOC. All units in a detachment (and in your entire army in matched) need to share at least one faction keyword, so everything sharing Aeldari is enough.

>>54138369

Which?

>>54137225
'Eadbang Joe strikes again

>>54138437
>>54138450
Ok cool I didn't realize that you could do that in the same detachment.

>>54138448
Is it a Faction Keyword?

>>54138376
Thanks! CSM are so great for converting possbilities

>>54138407
>Boarding parties.

I wish Gorkamorka got a proper update, especially if it meant revised Warbuggy minis, or more kustomizable Battlewagons.

>>54138389
>>54138407
>>54138434
Hm, okay. How are the buggies and wartrakks looking? Good skirmishers or still kinda bad?

>>54138492
They lack anything really worth while, being BS 5+ still blows, but having a bunch of them outflank with rokkits and skorchas can scare some people.

>>54138458
Hard to say withoug knowing what you do like, but there is Infinity, Wrath of Kings, Malifaux, X-wing to name a few.

>>54137965
My renegades are probably the worst you can get.Since warp memes exist I threw some "Armor through ages" sets to normal CSM units and three converted AoS chaos warriors.
I have no regrets tho.

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>>54137003

WE ARE E T E R N A L

>>54138515
The sad thing is that versus, say, a Ghostkeel, they literally cannot hit.

5+ to-hit with a -2 mod means you have to hit on 7s. Good luck. :)

>>54138458
I personally recommend lord of the rings. It's called the hobbit now, but the rules are mostly the same.

So what stops someone from taking an army of 10 point Purestrain Genestealers cult ambushing into your back line and supported by Conscript blobs, Mortars, Tauroxes, and deep striking Scions?

I for one welcome our new Astra Milityranid overlords.

Any tips on a good 6x4' playmat for 40k?

>>54138458
Epic, aka 40k with alternating activations, streamlined combat, suppression and flanking means a damn, etc.

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So aside from boring green tide, what Ork lists seem to be working for your guys?

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>>54138578
Thanks for the free round of shooting.

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>>54137003
RIP Whip Coils. Gonna be chopping them off after this 7th League I'm in ends

>>54138556
Is that the arm of a Forgeworld GUO?

>>54138590
Kans

>>54138590
>Green Tide
>Boring

Eat a dick

>>54138557
Why you just drive the skorcha up and burn everything.

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what to give hellbrutes? i want many in my army list

>>54138596
Ghostkeels look so sick

>>54138590
A bigger green tide.

>>54138618
How do Deff Dread cope?

I ran a single one and he didn't really seem to have much impact in melee. He's running with 4 attacks that just felt really lack luster for his point cost.

>>54138630
Dildos. Because they are gay as fuck.

I apologize if this has already been answered but I scanned through the faqs and didn't see this mentioned. Do characters embarked on open topped transports (in particular tau tidewall pieces) have auras? If not, dumb.

>>54138634

They got great modelling potential too with the openable pilot hatch

>>54138664
go back into ur hole danglefag

>>54138590
Greentide+support for green tide is the only good ork list, everything else is still shit

>>54138614
Greenstuff. I remember seeing it in /wip/.

>>54138556
Looks good.

>>54138676
The rules for transport vehicles in the rulebook itself already clarify that units embarked on vehicles are never affected by aura's and don't have their own aura

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>>54138659
Im pretty sure they need to come in multiples to be effective, like this Metal Tide list

>>54138659
Most walkers took a blow to close combat, they're not good for blobs so you'll be trying to get first charge against elite units.

Just be glad it can't be immobilized anymore.

>>54138492
Good way to fill up your fast slots cheaply if you want to go for a battalion.

Other than that pretty trash. Considering 30 boyz kills everything in the game is it worth taking anything else playing Orks?

>>54138705
Have walkers ever been able to kill even half a blob before the game ends ?
5th edition Bloodclad Death Company dreadnoughts don't count.

>>54138590
Burna bombers

>>54138312
>half the population are psykers

F

>>54138715
How often will you still have all 30 of those boyz by the time they get to the enemy?
Not including da jump.

>>54138585
Frontline Gaming mats, Gamemat.eu mats, and Tablewar F.A.T. mats are all solid choices.

>>54138731
Not really, but they were good for making sure the blobs of gunmen don't shoot your shit.

What's the best Furioso Dreadnought loadout?

>>54138659
This is horde edition the hordening so single models are pretty much trash.

Granted he's good against other single models , other dresses, MCs and tanks as well as terminators but nobody is going to be using those soon enough as they're trash compared to hordes.

>>54138748
Thanks, anon!

>>54138699
I know GW generally hasn't wanted to even hint at improving Tau functionality since 8th began, but it sure would be nice if they errata'd tidewall stuff to allow embarked characters to at least give their aura to themselves and other models embarked on the same platform.

>>54138312
>custom chapter with plethora of psykers
(nearly) every fucking time.

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>tfw I still feel like I'm being mocked when people say my Ork army is good

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LMAO

They made the Death Korps of Krieg into a real thing IRL xD

>>54138787
At least its a BA successor. Psykers are in theme.

>basil poledouris will never compose music for a warhammer movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk

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>Bird Spam vs Drone Spam
>Drone spam devised as a conscript spam counter
>Bird spam had most difficult match up vs Boyz spam

Welcome to 8th edition tournaments lads

>>54138312
How's exodite Eldar that fucked the local humans into extinction and are part human themselves as a result sound?
Cringy enough?

>>54138312
Ow ow ow Ow Ow OW OW OW!

>>54138745
Considering there's no good ways to deal with Hordes other than other Hordes, and that you can easily run 120 boyz in a list, backed up by painboyz for additional saves , and they're all fearless , and you can take shootas to fire back as you advance to kill models before they return fire, and most deployment leaves you 24 inches away , and you can advance and charge and re-roll your charge

It's pretty easy to get them into combat where they kill everything.

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Thoughts on my poxwalker?

>>54138312
Is there such thing as non cringey OC?

>>54138634
They are the only nu-Tau thing that look like a cool mecha and have a real cabin.

>>54136968
Stop feeding him

>>54138890
that's fantastic

>>54138614
Greenstuffed it myself friend, fist try at sculpting and nurgle made it easy

>>54138836
Come on man you can bait better than that.

>>54138430
Yes because that's what's wrong with that posts grammar and spelling.

>>54138890
Carnival in spaaaaaaaace

>>54138849
I know each drone pops off 4 shots, but you gotta have more drone controllers.

>>54138889
>>54138764
yep, look at how hordes completely dominated the first tournament.
Hoards are so good an armies running small units and tanks couldn't do anything there.

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>>54138614
>>54137003
fuller pic with hammer made of a mechanical pencil, landing struts from a vall, skaven banner, and flames from 2 skaven footballs.

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>>54138849
>People will defend this

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>>54138890
I don't think I like this.

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>>54138963
Put it down...

>>54138450
>>54138472
yep, it's why I run scourges now even if I'm not running ynnari.
My swooping hawks were modeled using scourges anyway, so it's fine. And now there is no reason to run swooping hawks over carbine scourges.
And I'm pretty sure blaster scourges will be better than my fire dragons.

At least Dark Reapers are still really good, and banshees have a role now.

>>54138731
I vaguely remember seeing some ironclad s sweeping advance ork boys a while ago.

Can someone explain to me why Typhus and the Lord of Contagion are the same power level and the Lord of Contagion is more points when it's much worse than Typhus? Most play tested edition my ass.

>>54138965
You don't want armies of drone doggos?

>>54138890
We mordheim now?

>>54138890
very fitting for nurgle. you could always fill up ranks abit more by uaing the mordheim nurgle carnival minis.

>>54138890
That is fucking amazing, anon.
Good job!

>>54138963
neato, wheres the head from?

>>54138890
I wanna know how he got those scars.

>>54138963
>Holding the model up to take a pic of it

I don't even need to look at the actual size of the pic to know that you're a fucking amateur at this.

>>54138890
Unsettling in a way I thought only that stupid raman pop tart Sunday could achieve.
Congrats.

>>54138614
The fleshy arm is green stuff I think, I think I remember seeing this dudes unpainted model

>>54138963
Huh, now I remember. You were the anon who asked about tips how to make the fly on your banners not look like weird tits.
Nice work!

>>54138789
It's real anon. It happened.
Now go charge a knight.

>>54138965
the blue spray paint job makes it hard to tell, but it looks like a number of those units aren't birds.

Does anyone here have the orc captain comic with the spongebob theme used and could post it? Thanks in advance.

>>54138963
Well done when I saw the unpainted I was sceptical but you really pulled it off

>>54136975
because gw doesnt understand their own game and ignores their own playtesters

>>54138890
Really nice anon, seems like a lot of time for what may be seen as cannon fodder.

Does Alexis Pollux not have rules in 8th?

>>54139029
Clipped the horns off of a warrior of chaos knight from fantasy

>>54139058
>>54138849
Are birds a brimstone horrors proxy?

>>54138890
Why would a poxwalker have a cybernetic limb?

Isn't that directly counter to what nurgle stands for?

>>54139083
He's a 30k character, so no.

>>54136975
the drop units did decent the few times I played against them.
They put a lot of pressure on a flank, and took dedicating multiple units to take them out.

The rest I was unimpressed with too. Burying plasma guns in tac squads is better than having a dedicated plasma units.

>>54139083
well the nigga is dead

>>54138312
I couldn't make it past
>half the population is psyker

It was just too shitty.

>>54139058

They're 3rd party birds otherwise that army would cost £1500+

It has
Yncarne for fnp and fearless
Yvraine for spells
Couple beast masters for reroll hits
Illic and maugan ra for mortal wound snipes
Farseers for doom reroll wounds
150 bird bases

Not sure what else if anything.

>>54139095

Birds are razorwing flocks

4 wounds 8 attacks s2 t2, reroll hits with the beast master reroll wounds with farseer doom.

Own Tau.
What should my second army be?

Scions?
Nids?
Necrons?

>>54139095
Probably razorwing flocks, the best horde unit in the game right now.

>>54139102
Amputation was a preexisting condition.

>>54139130
Razorwing flock spam then. Death by ca-caw!

>>54139124
Tell that to eldar

>>54139158
Yeah but wouldn't the bionic fall out because the new body rejects it? Probably a tentacle would grow from the stump of the old limb or something.

>8th edition
>horde edition
>GSC horde gets fucked
Fuck you you fucking britcuckshits

>>54138949

Controllers visible in another pic

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I don't know if I posted this but how does my iron hands primaris successor captain look, I don't know how I feel about the pseudo bolt storm gauntlet and im thinking of painting the chest decoration fully in Balthazar gold. Ill post ll the inteccessors and hellblasters and a lieutenant tomorrow once I get off vacation.

>>54139102
They're basically zombies so I assume the prosthesis was attached prior to the victim being infected.

>>54139071
>and ignores their own playtesters
This. They explicitly ignored testers concerns about the who gets to go first first turn mechanic.

>>54139102
leftover of life without nurgle ?
they are low-level worshipper afterall

>>54139171
It's connected really well, I guess.

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>>54138312
>mfw bloody mary sues

>>54139170
I play eldar.
And fire dragons were great, but that's melta not plasma. And not nearly as good now. Making up some blaster scourges.

>>54137007

They are viable, but playing at 2k points and not bringing Magnus is a blasphemy. He brings so much to the table it's not even funny, I have yet to play a game where he didn't perform amazingly.

That being said, the rest of the army does feel a bit clunky, with the exalteds losing their rerolls if they get a disc and the restriction on the psychic powers hurts a lot. Hopefully once the codex comes out it gets better.

I won 5 games with my 1k sons so far, lost 2. But as I mentioned, I do use Magnus.

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Hi, my name is Trevor and I play Orks. My favorite model is the Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun. Im hoping that they give it some flavor back when my codex drops!

>*looks to left*

Your turn to share your problems anon!

>>54137738
thanks m8

>>54139172
>hoard edition.
>first tournament no hoard lists in the top 3.
or did none of the 38 players think to bring the unbeatable hoard list that is so easy to run.

>>54139229
Wraith guard, dark reapers, to a lesser extent striking scorpions as well as fire dragons, the forge world ones I forget the names off, swooping hawks, rangers...

>>54139253
Hi I'm Nikola and I play ad mech and my favorite unit is the sikaran infiltrators. That is all.

>>54137751
Here's my method
> Leadbelcher
> Area highlight of Stormhost Silver(leave the edges darker)
> Wash with Nuln Oil
> Put on Green Gemstone paint
> Draw some tiny red lines in a cross symbol on the center.
I do these on the inside of my rhinos. It's a really simple effect that will get you a huge number of compliments on your models.

>>54139270
They just didn't get all the models painted up in time. Just wait for later tournaments. Hordes will be unbeatable lists. Screencap this.

>>54138292
big trakk, battlewagon or a kill tank

forge world is your friend here

>>54139154
Let the dice gods decide.

>>54139154

Pick the least camcerous one.

>>54139270

Lol the winning list was all flyers with 6 tac marines. And this is meant to be progress ?

Games still trash with the same waac bullshit as 7th with no balance and it's somehow been made bland , dull and void of tactics in the process

>>54139271
none of those are plasma.
Aspect warriors are playing to have dedicated units, and that's mostly a downside for eldar, made up for by those units being quite good for the cost.
And the only aspect warriors with expensive weapons, are dark reapers and fire dragons. Dragons were in transports, and are worse now, dark reapers have enough range they can stay away from a lot of things that will try to pick them off.

If hand flamers were d6 would they actually be worth it for any model that can take them?

Deathwatch and Blood Angel models with access to pistols (sergeants mostly I believe?), and Death Company can take them for 8 points. An average of 3.5 auto-hits of 3 strength. So, clearly an anti-horde weapon, but against toughness 3 that's still only 1.75 wounds before saves. But they're d3 (now, sorta), so they actually only inflict an average of 2 autohits for 1 effective wound against T3 infantry but are still 8 points.

They also only have a 6" range (from the model armed with it, which is not always the closest to the enemy), which also makes them pretty easy to dodge on the charge if you were scared of them for some reason. That short range ALSO puts them right up next to rapid firing conscripts/guardsmen or charging boyz and gaunts.

SoB hand flamers (seraphim only) were 6 points for d6 and you could take four on a five girl jump squad, but I still feel like they were just okay. Was I wrong and they were OP? What's a reasonable price and profile for these?

>>54139287
or maybe there are counters to hoards and you refuse to accept it.
Try your hoards against those list, or those list against a hoard.

>>54137023
Horus pls go, aren't you supposed to be dead or something

>>54139362
>expecting tournaments to ever be balanced or non-cancerous

Even competitive chess is retarded.

Do you ever suddenly notice it's after 10pm, you're scraping mould lines off a pile off nurglings and just think to yourself "What the fuck am I doing with my life?"

>>54139428

The winning guy only fought Boyz spam I think of the horde lists, which couldn't hit his flyer only list.

>>54139362
Your mistake there was being vested in tournament lists.

>>54139177
Good work

>>54139477
No, I'm in this hobby because I enjoy it and my life is meant to be enjoyed.

I work 8 hours a day, I'm married, and kids on the way, so that 10pm mold line scraping is my escape and pleasure.

>>54139253
Hi, my name is Tai (not my given name, but the name I chose), and I play Tau. Well, I don't actually play the game, but I do spend all day theorycrafting about tau lists and watching anime (and by anime, I mean japanese animation, not this silly stuff like western anime). I hope they come up with more unique characters for Tau so I can build lists around a small group of shōnen protagonists, and impress people with my tactical keikakus.

>>54139478
nor can the other swarm lists.
So hey look a counter.
And now we know there was at least one hoard list, so chances aren't terrible that the other 3 also faced at least one hoard list.
And the hoard lists didn't dominate.

>>54139373
I never said they were, I was merely pointing out that each person in the unit had the same weapon.
Orks are also in the same with burna boy,s lootas,and flash gits.

>>54139502

Razorflocks can, they have fly.

>>54139420
No, they weren't useful, since you couldn't deep strike and shoot with them.

>>54139444
White op