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Still waiting edition

resources
>pastebin.com/Cb3X4ZKW

Core rules
>https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Rules

Skirmish
>https://mega.nz/#!jMQxCa6C!9TQ324QTcZ7nDJbv2Q7uQ9xg442K-UA-dtK2wTLxFPw

General Handbook
>https://mega.nz/#!nMpnGQBS!Ew5rz8JMzKi5e7_mtN9nibMGY3UWO5jwOl8DIf9UZ1I

Army builder
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/

Custom Warscroll Designer
>http://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/
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>>54133088
First for Brayherds!
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>*Blocks your path*
>*Plays the song of his people*

GHB2 when?
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>>54133505
>>*Plays the song of his people*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apGoh8cN1mM
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Oh hey, who drew the op pic? We had a few cool drawfags, but none looked like that!
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>>54134011
Look at the filename mate
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>>54133088
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>>54134169
>>54133088

It's like poetry...
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With the GHB2 appearing in next weeks white dwarf do you reckon we might get a new army release to go with it? I know theres still a bunch of 40k releases yet to come so we could be faced with atleast another three weeks of it.
Any chance they'll stop this dry spell with some new models with the book?
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>>54134331
I hope for some new models but wouldn't they already tease anything for a GHB2-related release?
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>>54134356
Depends on the release date I guess, after the 40k starter kits and vehicles drop we hopefully could see something then. I wouldn't mind another dual kit like the Tzaangors, Mortarion is coming eventually could be an opportunity there
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Going to ask again since I want some more opinions on it before I order anything from FW. Whats the general opinion on the Carmine Dragon?

From what I can see, it seems to be pretty fucking costly and I'm not sure it's 100% worth it. The model, however, looks fucking amazing so I'm still tempted to pick it up.
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>>54134520
>and I'm not sure it's 100% worth it
It doesn't worth it's points, pick a normal army
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>>54134169
>AoS factions and characters will be bleak parody of Warcraft forever
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How does one maximize projectile mortal wounds in a chaos army? Not counting any Demon models mind you. Khorne/Nurgle in front and Tzeentch in the back.
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>>54134520
dont do it because it'll give you an edge in the game but because you want the hobby and will enjoy painting and putting it together
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>>54134462
>I wouldn't mind another dual kit like the Tzaangors,

>Poxwalkers are blatantly way too 40k in design
>Upcoming kit shows no signs of sword/shield type options
>Still covered in pipes and robotic shit

GW fucked up big time not making these guys a 40k Troop and also a Rotbringers Battle-line like they did with Tzaangor

I guess we can hope for Pestigor (Nurgle battle-tome when?)
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>>54134520
If it looks cool, get it.
If it 'might not be worth it' is code for 'I think I could be SLIGHTY more points efficient with generic choice a so I'm on the fence' you are literally this games cancer. Kys.
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does slambo have points? picked him up when he came out (don't actually know why >.>) and just built him now. Thinking of making a list of him, the forge world sorcerer+spawn and a mix of khorne and tzeentch deamons+mortals.
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>>54133088
>>54134011
never thought I'd wake up to find my art being used for a general. but yeah just look up gpol on deviantart, I sometimes pop up in drawthreads
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Did the anon who said he'd drop Plague Garden over the weekend ever upload it? Old thread died.
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>>54136291
Don't think he did, no
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>>54136189
I've seen your night goblin warlord used once or twice for a general OP.

ever plan on drawing more of that thicc female orc?
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>>54136325
maybe, if the commissioner ever wants her done again
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>>54134520
it's good for collecting but that's pretty much it. costs too many points to be an effective unit imo.
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>>54136364
:o
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>>54136364
>thicc female orc
One day I will buy a fuckin thicc softcore Alarielle pic for aosg
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>>54136523
>thicc alarielle
I like your style, anon
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>>54136523
You're the hero we need. Arielle beats neffy any day.
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>>54136615
Yeah, but first of all I have to stop being a poorfag and then I can spend my money on lewd pics.

In mentioning poorfagness - would you be okay with someone using 40k orks in AoS? I was thinking about start playing 40k and greenskinz seem to be perfect for having fun with kitbashing but I have mixed feeling about fielding orks armed with sluggas and shootas as ardboyz
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>>54136781
I'd say unless you somehow convert the shootas into AoS appropriate firearms, i'd stay away from those. all the other parts should be fine, minus bioniks
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>>54136781
I'd say just avoid the guns and bioniks, they're almost identical otherwise (especially older editions)
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Hey guys I got this Dwarven Battle Line as a throw-in in a r/miniswap trade for 40k models. I have never played Warhammer Fantasy or AoS. Can someone tell me if I can use these models? Where can I find their rules, etc? Any other tips. Thanks in advance anons.
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>>54136781
By greenskinz I just mean orks to be clear

>>54136825
>>54136861
For a while I was thinking about magnetize them but on the other hand magnetizing the boys seem to be ridiculous

>>54136884
>Can someone tell me if I can use these models?
You can use every model mate
>Where can I find their rules, etc?
Here you go
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-dwarfs-en.pdf

Also check the OP for other rules
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>>54136884
>Dwarven Battle Line
Thats enough stuff to field a decent 1000pts army, could maybe use a warden king or something but otherwise a nice pick up.
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>>54133088
Soon
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>>54134331
>we could be faced with atleast another three weeks of it.
Try another 5 months, friendo.
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>>54136884
Using outdated dwarfs that are so tiny-
wait, nvm carry on.
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>>54137621
please dont
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>>54137726

be happy though, itll be 5 months of just marines and then dirty marines and then GW will release an all new original army for aos which is sigmarines!

so exciting!
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>>54134331
Doesn't GW have Shadespire in the works right now? We should be getting some new models from that release.
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>>54137812
>GW will release an all new original army for aos which is sigmarines!
you say that to be funny but sadly its probably true.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/28/rumour-engine-june-28th-2017/
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>>54138816
I think that might be this lion guy from 40k I don't really know how he was called - I'm not an adeptus astartes guy but 40kg was fapping to him some time ago
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>>54138900
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>>54138956
Well, I see some slight differences Let the man dream
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>>54136884
When you click on name of every unit on GW site, it gives you their stats in a link on the right. That is all you need for random pick-up games, for point-cost games you will want the general's compendium.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Warhammer?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102295+253378609+350924826&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440002a-flat
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Anybody knows if I'm missing any god or goddess on this list? I'm pretty sure There was a Twin-souled deity that Archaon killed but i don't know the name.
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>>54139705
Isn't Sotek still mentioned for Seraphon?
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>>54134331
>With the GHB2 appearing in next weeks white dwarf
I have this months White Dwarf already. Absolutely no mention of Generals Handbook 2017.
Looks like it is next month.
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>>54139870
I think it was mentioned that sometimes when seraphon are involved nearby skaven start getting hallucinations of a big fucking snake , i think it is in the battletome somewhere just dont remember exactly where
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>>54140034
thats a real disapointment
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>>54140066
Pretty much a summary of the entire issue really.

They do tease Path to Glory though.
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>>54139870
So far I don't think he was ever called a god or an actual entity, but his name has been referenced in several constellations.
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I bought this yesterday and I'm pretty fucking glad i did

Gotta love me some steampunk dwarfs
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>>54140093
>They do tease Path to Glory though
Any word about release date?
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Hey anons, I'm new to AoS but do like 40k etc. I've been eyeing Archaon and some Varanguard as a small AoS collection.

Are they pretty cool/fun to play or play against? I like the sculpts but am worried they'll just be big damage sponges or something.

Also, about how many makes an army?
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>>54140897

I'd say one of the start collecting boxes would be a good starter army.
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>>54140897
Those kits are pretty expensive both money and point wise, if you're wanting to play matched play that is. Archaon is 700pts and the Varanguard are 300pts meaning you couldn't play them in a game at 1000pts or lower. Picture related its the matched play unit specifications.

But if you just wanted to grab them cause you liked the sculpts and thought they'd be fun to build go for it, but for that price you could build a much bigger army, or for the same amount of models save some money.
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I am very new to AoS. Can my chaos men have flails and shields?
The superfat at the flgs told me they can't but I don'y see any notation that says so and I suspect that might be an old rule.
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>>54141120
Sadly not, its not very well written but its Sword and Shield or Flails.
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>>54141115
>Varanguard are 300pts
They are 360pts mate - these things are fat as fuck
>>54141120
>Can my chaos men have flails and shields?
Do you mean Marauders of Chaos? If yes, then yeah - they can carry flails or axes and shields for both
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Any confirmation if night goblins are actually squatted or just being reboxed?
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>>54141262
Alot of stuff is just getting repackaged, I don't think theres anything to worry about.
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>>54141290
Well, they have same status as Orks Start Collecting so I think it's just about the reboxing (painboy has lost the HQ role so GW has to change stuff inside the box)
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>>54141290
>>54141343
Well christ thank god. My only real beef is that trolls arent called trolls but i may just put together that small goblin army i have been thinking of for years. Mainly due to not needing a stupid amount of cash or minis anymore.
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>>54141387
Take a look on the Blood Bowl goblins - some of BB models look amazing tho
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>>54141115
>>54141241
>360
>700

Oh lawdy. Is 1000 pts pretty standard or is it all locally dependent?
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>>54141467
I would say it's a standard format. You just picked a faction that is based on the biggest fuckin model and fat cavalry. Other factions are not so expensive - look at the Nurgle Daemons. Their start collecting has 500pts so a lazy 2x SC! box based army has 34 models
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>>54141241
Aye, its marauders; thank you!
>>54141196
Thank you as well, sorry I was not correctly specific.
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Hey Anons new Dwarf player here. Will these models >>54136884 allow me to play 1v1 with my fiance? Will the armies be too small?
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>>54141467
Standard is 2000 points. Idk what they play in your local store for casual games, but every significant event is 2k.
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>>54141561
>>54141777
Good to know. Cheers and thanks anons!
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>>54137340
link to warden king?
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>>54141120
> superfats think they know rules
When will they learn?
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>>54141929
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Belegar-Ironhammer

You could at least attempt to look for it yourself.

Anyway, any old Dwarf Lord/Thane model will do for Warden King as well, nobody will really care that it doesn't have a shield and hand weapon.
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>>54139705
Morathi, Vallaya may or may not be alive but she is worshipped by the Kharadron. The twin souled God is mentioned in the Everchosen battletome
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>>54140852
Nope, just "Coming Soon".

Nowadays, Warhammer Community seems to get the new content first. There is nothing in this months WD that wasn't posted there first.
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>>54142075
What ruleset does this guy use? I ask because I couldn't find a Warden king profile in the link. Sorry if these are stupid questions this is my first day.
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>>54142156
Scroll down slightly, on the right hand side of the description, there should be some tabs. It is on "Rules" by default.
Click the link to open the PDF.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-warden-king-en.pdf

Something else you can do if you have a smart phone is download the Age of Sigmar app. Every models rules are available on there, even out of production models.
On that note, you can find the "Compendium" which has out of production model rules here:
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-dwarfs-en.pdf

All of the models in that battleline box survived the cut, so you likely wont have to look through the compendium often, but if you do get your hands on some older models it could be useful.
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>>54142242
Thanks. This is awesome. Quick question will these be enough models for two players to play with just this box?
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>>54142503
If you use the Skirmish rules, then it is more than enough, you can just split the Longbeards, Warriors and Thunderers/Quarrellers in half (Artillery can't be used in Skirmish though).
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Age-of-Sigmar-Skirmish-ENG-2017

In normal AoS, not really, no. It will be a bit lop sided.

Skirmish is a sub-game that lets you play with less models. Rather than acting as a unit, each model acts on its own.
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>>54142084
Was Morathi ever directly stated to be a god?

Vallaya is worshipped by the Kharadron?

Yes, Y'ulea read that on several forum posts about that battletome.
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>>54141387
>another goblin player
Yeeeeeesssssssssssssss good
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>>54142084
>>54142744

Worship or not, Vallaya was destroyed during the End Times. Neferata and crew defeated Thorek Ironbrow and crew at her tomb and did work. That is unless she somehow acquired plot armor.
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>>54134584
>>54134676
>>54134686
>>54136370
Thanks for the advice. DESU I understand what you're getting at when you say to collect what you think looks cool rather than what works but I don't really want to spend $150+ on a model that is only there to look pretty. I already play Fyreslayers/Warherds as my main two armies, I'm not exactly someone running 27 Skyfires in a friendly game.
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>>54142869
One of the origin stories for why people in the World-That-Was are in the Mortal Realms, is because the memories embodied in Mallus were turned real by their conjoined hatred for Chaos. Vallaya could've been brought that way, and I think Josh Reynolds has implied that's how some of the other incarnates have been brought back to life, like Nagash.

On the other hand Grungni might've just reminded the Duardin that she existed and wanted them to worship her memory.

Either way there are also Daugthers of Khaine and I think the GA book stated that Khaine has not been resurrected.
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>>54141262
>Any confirmation if night goblins are actually squatted or just being reboxed?
If it's Sold out it means squiatted,
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>>54136884
>Can someone tell me if I can use these models?
Technically you can use them, practically, you've made a great mistake
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>tfw super excited about AOS
>tfw buy about 60-70 models for a huge Ironjawz army
>hear about Ironjawz airships
>hear about Grot pirates
>get super fucking excited
>8th edition comes out
>AOS is dead in the water
>entire army and all that excitement for nothing

Ah well, same thing happened when I spent a shitload on Bloodbowl and then SWA. Fuck GW.
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>>54144490
See? half an hour later and no replies.
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>>54144490
"Hello, I assumed that something was going to come out and invested heavily in it because I can't control myself enough to wait and see. I also am too impatient to realize that 40k is having a new edition and that this might just take some attention away from my game"
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>>54144327
explain yourself
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>>54144898
Dwarves are legacy (old WHFB armies allowed in AoS) army, they wouldnt get any support in future, GW replacing them with different dwarven armies (Fireslayers, kharadon Overlords)
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>>54142994
Vallaya's statue is shown here in the Kharadron Overlord battletome, as well as Grimnir, Grungni and the unknown god next to Grimnir.
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>>54144952
Can we stop this? This has been proven to be false as older ranges have gotten battletomes and reboxes, like Beastclaw Raiders and Bonesplitterz, while other factions received a whole bunch of new models, like Sylvaneth and Ironjawz.
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>>54146022
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>>54146056
>Can we stop this?
Can assblasted fantasycuck just shut up, when I give anon worthy advises to save his time and money?
>Beastclaw Raiders and Bonesplitterz,
>2-3 units per army
>pretending it's actual examples
>Sylvaneth and Ironjawz.
New armies, with new models.
Again, to all new comers, NO BATTLETOME = DO NOT BUY IT
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>>54146067
>random female dwarfs automatically means fantasyshit
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>>54141656
What army does she play and how many points are you two aiming for?
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>>54146067

>star of david beneath center-right statue.

Oy vey goys, duardin are jews
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>>54144952
And until this fuck showed up this general was doing so well...
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>>54146644
>this general was doing so well..
>first half of the thread
>well
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>>54146113
>guess you don't like Sigmar either
>>54136884
The infantry is in the dispossed faction, the artillery in the ironweld arsenal faction. You can play them as a Grand Alliance Order army, and add anything you like from the Order Grand Alliance. Check the General's Handbook for magic items, points, etc. You can also use the Dwarf compendium rules that the other anon's linked, it's basically the same thing.
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Anyone got a link to the old thread?
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>>54139870
Sotek IS Dracothion
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>>54140412
Theyre not steampunk, they are aetherpunk
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>>54142744
>Was Morathi ever directly stated to be a god?
No, we have no idea what the deal with Morathi is right now
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>>54146098
>Again, to all new comers, NO BATTLETOME = DO NOT BUY IT
Thats generally good advice but you don't need to be a dick about it

I think after GHB2 it will be safe to invest in an any force that has Allegiance.
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Let me re-ask this Anon >>54136781 question but in a different way.
Which stricte 40k models are quite usable without hard conversion in AoS?
>inb4 daemons
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>>54149297
Orks and Demons, but if you are too cheap to buy miniatures and too lazy to convert you shouldn't bother.
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>>54148701
>>guess you don't like Sigmar either
Nope since AoS was launched.
>>54149175
>I think after GHB2 it will be safe to invest in an any force that has Allegiance.
Allegiance doesn't mean future updates
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>>54149153
>Sotek IS Dracothion
It's not canon, but I love the idea.
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>>54149496
>Allegiance doesn't mean future updates
Why would they bother writing up allegiance for a faction if they weren't going to support that faction

You are the worst poster on all of /tg/. All you do is constantly shit up this thread spewing conspiracy nonsense about GW cutting every faction

Please start using a trip so we can all filter your useless opinions
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>>54149563
Man, just ignore the cheetahfag. He is not using his avatars for now but baiting is the only point of his posts. Report/hide and move on
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>>54149587
>>54149563
agreed, he is impossible to reason with. He is making up terms and then uses them like they are official.

Basically, if it's shitposting about 'legacy' armies, just move on.

On that note, GW could have given us so much peace of mind if they had just shared which factions would be included in GBH 2.0. Then again, speculation is also more people talking about it, so there's that.
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>>54149563
>Why would they bother writing up allegiance for a faction if they weren't going to support that faction
Because it's not hard to write random rules for allegiance.
>You are the worst poster on all of /tg/.
>says fantasycuck
>>54149587
>cheetahfag
Lol who?
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>>54149653
>lol
User, you have to go back
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>>54149670
>User
Nice projections plebbit
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>>54149620
>GW could have given us so much peace of mind
Give it whom? Only fantasycucks waiting ofr updates for their old ugly shit
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>>54144490
>Not picking up a SC, getting it tabletop ready and playing some practice games
>Buying a fucktonne of models all at once. ever
>Willingly stacking up a huge backlog
>Buying 60 models when playing a very low model count army
>Falling for airship memes
>Not checking to see if you have an LGS nearby
>Not checking if an AoS community exists at all near you
>Thinking the AoS thread will be active when 8th exists + there is nothing to talk about


I'm glad you're hype about Ironjawz, they are a cool faction but you went about this in the worst way with very poor timing. The fact you've done this twice before should have taught you something dude.

No one to blame but yourself. Try getting about 800 pts built and head to your LGS/GW get some small practice games in
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>>54149723
>Buying a fucktonne of models all at once. ever
>not buying an entire army and then painting it over a year

I guess I have a weird definition of fun
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>>54149756
Woops wrong picture

This is my stormcast army
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>>54149756
>I guess I have a weird definition of fun
Not weird, it's pretty common for global society
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Duncan, you sick fuck - stop being so perfect just for a moment
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>>54149766
>All this unpainted plastic
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>>54149783
workin on it
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>>54149563
>All you do is constantly shit up this thread spewing conspiracy nonsense about GW cutting every faction
Because there is no niche for more armies?
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>>54149756
>>54149756
I have always restricted myself to buying a box or two and not allowing myself to purchase any other models until what i've bought is painted up and based

That said my community is the kind who paints their armies, you rarely see a grey model on the table, so it always fosters that drive to finish what you start.

>>54149799
Cool, that looks great, you've done well, i was worried when i saw the first pic
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>>54149799
>WAAC player doesn't heard about shades
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>>54149799
Complaint withdrawn, go on doing god's work.
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>>54149825
I basecoated the whole army in 2 weeks for a tournament because they had a 3 colour + base requirement

I've been slowly finishing them off since then, picture related
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>>54149825
>shitposter who is contributing literally nothing to the thread.

>>54149837
Lookin gud Anon
>>54149777
The round shiled look a lot better on those liberators, and the acolytes as freeguild guard looks really great like this.
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>>54142744
>Was Morathi ever directly stated to be a god?
>>54149164
>No, we have no idea what the deal with Morathi is right now

during the end times she was dragged into a warp rift (presumably by Slaanesh) and that was the last time she was seen in that setting.

She was sighted alive in the AOS setting cavorting with some daemons in the realm of shadow.

make of that what you will.
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>>54149903
>and the acolytes as freeguild guard looks really great like this.
Which means we need new freeguild models, not legacy shit
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>>54142869
Actually, Her god-like power was Drained, Vallaya herself was never even described to be in the tomb unlike what happened to the Fey Enchantress and the Kislev Bear God.
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>Aaelf players bitching
>Meanwhile I am Blitzkrieging shooting armies with my Order Draconis army.
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>>54149756
>>54149766
>>54149799

Are you a lawyer by chance?
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>>54150401
No
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>>54150367
>Order Draconis army
lmao he was kidding right?
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>>54150448
Why do I need more units when I have the best?
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I prefer the fantasy style of AoS but no one I know plays. So instead I play 40k. Feels bad. Anyone else suffer this?
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>>54150444
Of course. Looking back, you don't have enough Dracoths or Stardrakes.
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>>54150367
>>Meanwhile I am Blitzkrieging legacy shooting armies with my one unit spam
fair fix
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>>54150590
I remember lawyer-kun and his massive extremis chamber

I haven't seen him post since early 2016
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>>54150660
Presumably he is still removing mould lines to this very day.
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>>54146113
That's also the rune of Vallaya beneath the statue. I don't know who the rune two spaces over is for.
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>GW decides to mess up and somehow implement the female orks in the setting
What could go right? What could go wrong?
I will probably not give a fuck as long as female orks would not look like a big green women with fangs like pic related
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>>54152466
>as female orks would not look like a big green women with fangs like pic related
You've came in wrong thread. motherfucker
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>>54152578
Nah, I'm okay with lewd stuff for /d/fags but in my opinion it's the drawfriends job to make this kind of content - not the GW desu
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>>54150644
>Meanwhile I am Blitzkrieging legacy shooting armies with my mediocre one unit low tier spam

also fair
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>>54152466
Didn't they deconfirm that Orks come from spores?
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>>54154196
Pic related is xenos 2 index. It seems that spore-theory is just a one of many
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>>54152466
Well if they give us green amazons and witch docs I might have to start AoS ....
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>>54154496
Do you know any decent female orcs 3rd party minis?
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Has anyone tried using Grimgor Ironhide in an Ironjawz army? +1 to hit for 10" seems pretty good for an army that generally has 3+/3+ or 4+/3+ for most of their attack profiles.

Asking because I only just realized that Grimgor is now an Ironjaw hero. Slowpoke, I know.
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>>54155039
Seems pretty alright. Get a AOE warchanter who can deal some damage. I say test it in a few games.
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Guys, I think that GW might give us a hint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oba272yDzig
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>>54155307

You're reaching man.
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>>54155329
Why? It's not the first time when WH TV is releasing a video related (or that might be related) with a rumour
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>>54155400
It'd be cool, but don't get your hopes up man.
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>>54155400
Ok, but why do you pick that particular video out of all the videos they have released. Why does this one particular video hint at something, when none of the recent previous ones did?

You are just seeing connections where they do not exist because of what you want.
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Tfw you realize there's more SCE coming when you notice the lion pauldron rumor matches the sigmarine on the GHB2 cover
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>>54155850
>but why do you pick that particular video out of all the videos they have released
Because they released it today
>Why does this one particular video hint at something
Because the rumour is about huge lion pauldron
>none of the recent previous ones did
But they did. The Ynnari release was prelude with a Grynix painting tutorial.

Why are you so mad Anon? I just said it might be a hint - not that it is related for sure. Do you have any personal problem? Maybe the safe space is what you need - you will find none here tho
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>>54155892
>the lion pauldron rumor matches the sigmarine on the GHB2 cover
But it's not - look at the lower jaw
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>>54155931

I'm not sure we'd get a White Lions release for HE. Phoenix Temple is far more likely to get a book given the I role in the fluff during the last summer campaign.
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A unit of 10 Stormvermin or a unit of 20 clanrats with blades - which will be better to use?
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>>54134666

You pack 4 chaos dwarf magma cannons and a daemonsmith...
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>>54156425
20 stormvermin. Run them as max size since they need to outnumber their target to perform.
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>>54156425
10 Stormvermin is always going to be near-worthless

They are fragile, outnumber nothing but heroes and monsters, they get shot once and half the unit could die, any war machine designed to hit 10+ models will wreck them, they lose the bravery bonus immediately and if the enemy can kill like 5 the battleshock takes care of the rest. 20 Stormvermin minimum or don't bother you need to outnumber what you're fighting.

20 Clanrats is cheaper and has some bodies to lose, put IP on them and have them protect the lines and important units
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>Lothern Sea Guard are not battleline
>But Spireguard is not
Christ, trying to build an army by using old warscrolls is pain in the ass
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>>54156775
But spireguard is*
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>>54156688
>>54156683
Shame they are not a battleline. I can not drop more than 20 clanrats for them
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>>54156864
They should be battle-line for Verminus at least, no reason at all to play that shit

Skaven in general need a rework on every clan, we can only hope
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Alright guys, I need your help. Tomorrow I'm gonna purchase some shit. Right now my list looks like this

Allegiance: Chaos
Heroes
Skaven Warlord (100)
- General
- Barbed Blade & War Halberd
- Trait: Lord of War
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest
Skaven Warlord (100)
- Barbed Blade
Warlock Engineer (100)
Warlock Engineer (100)
Packmaster (60)
- Shock-Prod
Battleline
40 x Clanrats (240)
- Rusty Spear
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Blade
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Blade
Units
4 x Rat Ogors (240)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60)
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)
Total: 1420/2000

I was thinking about buying a Start Collecting box for a Screaming Bell (260) and Warp Lightning Cannon (180) and buy a single Doomwheel (140). It would give me exactly 2000/2000 list.

An old LGS in my area is dying and it is selling its last shit for 50%. It still has Stormvermin boxes and Lightning Cannons.
The question is - should I drop the idea of buying Start Collecting and instead buy 3 cannons? The SC! box costs 200 bananas in my country while LGS is selling Cannons for 44 bananas per box. I would save nearly 70 bananas and buy a doomwheel to swap with one cannon for fun sometimes or use it in skirmish games. Or maybe the Screaming Bell is so fuckin amazing that I should grab a SC! box, sell the monks and use it with a single cannon and a wheel?
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>>54157219
I say the Lightning cannon is way better than the doomwheel.

I'd recommend a Battle standard bearer from the pdf for this army, plant that shit and everyone's immune and rerolling 1's

Failing al that shit, go for the SC!
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>>54157358
So maybe I will just drop a doomwheel (or buy it another time) and one Mortar? It will give me enough free points to use a Bell and two cannons
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>>54144490
>8th edition comes out
>AOS is dead in the water
>entire army and all that excitement for nothing

Dude just fucking play AoS, you were hyped for it why dont you do it?
Just because other people a hyped for 40k doesnt mean you have to be, the game isnt dead in the water just because another game has a release.

>Fuck GW.
Gw is sorry they are releasing too many things.

>hear about Ironjawz airships
>hear about Grot pirates
>get super fucking excited
Youre an idiot, dont fall for made up meme rumors.
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>>54144844
Can you fucks stop making arbitrary goalposts and then whining when something doesnt meet them?
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>>54152466
I hate that, it's so dumb. Like when the men of the race look fucking alien, but the women look like humans but with X or Y.
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wood elves ever coming back?

Sylvaneth don't count since they are missing the critical "elf" component of the Wood Elves.
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>>54159276
Technically Tree Revenants are Wood Elves.

Also, who even knows. The Wanderers are the elf sub-faction that got off the best, but right now it is impossible to predict where things are going to go.
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>>54155931
>The Ynnari release was prelude with a Grynix painting tutorial.
The Grynix was quite literally part of the model they released. These are old models painted at customer request.

When they aren't focusing on a recent release (like with the Primaris Marines), like 80% of their paint tutorials involve some old miniature.

That lion pauldron also looks more like something from a Stormcast Eternal than anything else, and rumour mill stuff is never related to a near release. They are always posted weeks or months ahead of the first actual teasers.
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>Sacrifices for Chaos
>Pawns for Sigmar
>Prey for Orruks
>Raw materials for the Undead.

Are humans no better than cattle in Age of Sigmar?
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>>54159346
>That lion pauldron also looks more like something from a Stormcast Eternal than anything else,

Not that lion.
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>>54159301
>Technically Tree Revenants are Wood Elves.
checked out the warscroll and seems they lack the Aelves keyword one would expect for an Aelf unit.
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>>54160042
>un-ironically believing it isn't going to be the lion theme SC chamber already mentioned in the SC battletome

I wish you were right but come on man...
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>>54155968
May be but it's still SCE pauldrons, the same design, the same animal (lion)
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>>54159276
>wood elves ever coming back?
Nope.
4 of their units are in Sylvaneth army now, and the half of the rest already phased out.
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For fucks sake, stop perpetuating misinformation. Legacy = Compendium only (aka it doesn't get a new name or isn't in a Grand Alliance book. Not only are dispossessed in the Grand Alliance: Order Book, they're shown in newer Age of Sigmar art and are currently being repacked with round bases.
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Have you read none of the Age of Sigmar Black Library books? Read city of secrets for example. Disspossed, Freeguild, Ironweld, Corsairs and many other model types that came from WFB are referenced. This shit would not fly if GW was culling those ranges any further. GW had their perfect chance to remove factions when they made the leap from Compendium to Grand Alliance books.
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How do realmgates work? Does a wizard/priest know where they are going if they channel the gateway? Or does everyone end up at a random realmgates somewhere in the realms? I would like to think of it almost like a stargate, what do you guys think?
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>>54161606
>Does a wizard/priest know where they are going if they channel the gateway?
Nope, none except Chaos and SCE use them
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>>54161706
Really? I was under the impression that everyone could use them.
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>>54161258
>and are currently being repacked with round bases
Repackaged doesn't mean they are still making them, just like with Spire of Dawn, GW just cleating the stocks, fantasycuck
Not to mention that your silly micromanlet armies doesn't have any prupose in games, since all gameplay niches (probably except Death) are already filled
>>54161306
>are referenced.
Names, not models, they all are much more advanced civilization then fantasyshit
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>>54161306
>This shit would not fly if GW was culling those ranges any further.
Planet Defense Force doesn't have models and rulles, since they are literally noname NPC, yet still some of them were mentioned in BL books
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>>54161859
>Planet Defense Force doesn't have models and rules
>doesn't have models and rules
>models and rules
So not relevant to legacy armies. Gotcha.
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>>54161859
Sure they do, IG
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>>54162050
>So not relevant to legacy armies.
When all legacy models will phased out as Tk and NG it will be relevant
>>54162087
>, IG
Not PDF
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>>54162103
>When
If.
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>>54162275
>If.
Nice denial, fantasycuck
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>>54161306
In City of Secrets, it's the Stormcast that are the ones that save the day and kill the bad guy. The Freeguild are just there to get killed and turn evil.
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>>54162391
Except freeguild had the most action in it, have even read the book? It fleshed out nicely the freeguild and the lives of civilians in the city. I recommend it for everyone who wants to know more of the grimdark side of aos.
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What are you guys working on? Post pics if possible!

I've been working on my treelord ancient for days now. Magnetised it completely for easier transport. I like the model but holy fuck those branches are fragile, didn't even put pressure and the right branch from head broke.. you guys have any good advice how to get it back, super glue? Just got basic colours in.
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>>54159462
No more than they were in Fantasy.

No, seriously. Look at points 1, 3 and 5 and try to find any real differences. It will be a mite difficult.
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>>54162818
>points 1, 3 and 5
Fuck, 1, 3 and 4. Dammit, I need to double-check my posts.
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I feel pretty bad - in the past year I didn't get a single game in. It turns out, nobody in the area plays sigmar at all and I have no friends.

Here is to hoping 2017-2018 is a better year!
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>>54161859
You do realize that GW now has a strict no models=no fluff policy, right? Including the exact details of the models.
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>>54162689
>Except freeguild had the most action in it,
And they still doing literally nothing important. like IG/PDF in 40k
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>>54163209
>GW now has a strict no models=no fluff policy,
[citation needed]
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>>54163279
Read literally any of the Realmwars bl books. You will not find any creature there that is not in a alliance book or battletome, described exactly as it looks out of box.
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>>54163328
>Read literally any of the Realmwars bl books.
so, no source.
>You will not find any creature there that is not in a alliance book or battletome
Sons of Hashut
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>>54163209
>>54163279
Yeah, it's not a written down policy but you will notice that after the chapterhouse case, their art follows their miniatures very faithfully.
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>>54163344
>so, no source.
No, no source, only evidence.
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>>54163389
>Yeah, it's not a written down policy
>>54163473
>No, no source,
Shhhhh... that's enough, fantasycucks
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>>54163525
Neither is 'legacy army' and you keep spouting that meme as well, AoSissy
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>>54163536
Just ignore him, he'll crawl back to warmachine general soon enough.
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>>54163550
Yeah sorry, forgot that we shouldn't respond to him.
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>>54163536
>AoSissy
>projecting so hard
>>54163550
>he'll crawl back to warmachine general
WHAT?
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>>54163389
What about huge crabs in City of Secrets?
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Yes, models, you thick-headed fuckwit. Take a look at the following factions which were mentioned in the book:

Scourge Privateers:

Arika is obviously a black ark fleetmaster. She is an aelf, and is described as being in control of the fleet of wolf ships that encircles the harbour. The book is descriptive down to the detail of the bony crest worn by the actual plastic model.

Similarly, the corsairs are blatantly referenced, saying they were elves who wore the scaled hides of sea beasts and were armed with cutlasses.


Dispossessed:

Toll's (the witch hunter) companion is a dwarf, who is noted as using traditional duardin weapons, including a blackpowder pistol and a large axe. Kharadron overlords use aethermatic weapons, so he's not one of them, and fyreslayers don't use pistols or blackpowder weapons. Also you completely ignored the pic I posted before, which shows ironbreakers fighting alongside stormcast against tzaangors. If that's not proof, what the fuck is? Do you want a written statement from the artist confirming what should be obvious?


Ironweld arsenal:

The book makes mention of a number of units from this faction, including the steam tank known as 'old lady', a number of helstorm rocket batteries, a group of gyrocopters called the air corps.


Freeguild:

Several regiments of freeguild are mentioned, and yes, they are explicitly called 'freeguild' several times. Examples include the 'coldguard', 'firewolves' and the 'iron bulls of tarsus'. Regarding their aesthetic, it's largely the same. A good example of this is the freeguild general Synor (general of the iron bulls of tarsus), who is depicted as wearing a large fancy hat with 3 white feathers held in place by a brooch in the shape of a comet. Several units types are explicitly mentioned, including handgunners, halberd and sword-wielding units of guard.

>they all are much more advanced civilization

Prove it.

>fantasycuck

Read a book
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>>54163741
Dude, you are 100% right, but that fag is shitting up every thread. Don't engage with him cuz it's fkcing pointless

Also, Toll is literally the witch hunter miniature.
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>>54162689
>have even read the book?

Yeah, half the Freeguild turn to Chaos and the other half get kill off by Chaos cultists until the Stormcast come in and save their asses.

It really makes the Freeguild look like total shit.
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>>54163741
>Arika is obviously a black ark fleetmaster.
Prove it.
>including a blackpowder pistol and a large axe.
So what?
>The book makes mention of a number of units from this faction, including the steam tank known as 'old lady', a number of helstorm rocket batteries, a group of gyrocopters called the air corps.
See, armored IG, nothing like WHFBshit.
>Prove it.
Picrelated average city in Azyrheim.
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>>54163741
>. Examples include the 'coldguard', 'firewolves' and the 'iron bulls of tarsus'.
Is it supposed to mean something relevant?
>Regarding their aesthetic, it's largely the same.
[citation needed]
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>>54161742
Everyone can use them

Hammerhal is a city built around a realmgate that connects the realm of fire to the realm of life. They regularly trade between the two realms. The city exists in both realms.
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>>54164610
>Everyone can use them
>Hammerhal The city exists in both realms.
Except there is one big SCE stronghold between two citites
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>>54164639
If other races can't use the realmgates then how did refugees arrive in Azyr during the Age of Chaos?

Stormcast didn't exist yet when the refugees flooded in
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>>54164662
>If other races can't use the realmgates then how did refugees arrive in Azyr during the Age of Chaos?
Azyr alread was populated by all mortal races.
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>>54164680
But refugees came in, it is explicitly stated numerous times
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>>54164690
>But refugees came in
Yep, you are right, but we talking about current situation, not to mention they've came when gods guarded all realmgates on Azyr
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>>54164725
Yep, you are right, but we talking about current situation, not to mention they've came when gods guarded all realmgates on Azyr
I can accept that maybe Sigmar himself opened the Realmgates in Azyr, but who was opening the gates from the other realms?

Fire god is dead, shadow/light gods were too busy jerking off slaneesh, death god would never allow his subjects to leave, beast god wouldn't care about the aelf/duardin/humans in his realm, alarielle turned into a seed, and so on

Mortals must be able to use the realmgates. Maybe not the average human, but certainly wizards and people that have studied them.

Wizards get a special ability when using the realmgates that lets them reroll 1s.
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>>54161814
>Repackaged doesn't mean they are still making them
They are still making them. We know that for a fact.

Everything currently on sale is still in active production.
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>>54154581

Russian Alternative's savage orcs girls are proper orcs and sexy as hell IMHO. Free international postage!
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>>54164929

Shadowy cthulhu-esque dark aelf mariner faction. Or fishmen taking us by surprise after 30-odd years of silliness.
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>>54164929
That's a new nurgle model
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>>54164763
>but who was opening the gates from the other realms?
Sygmar when he activated them froim the Azyr side
>>54164839
>Everything currently on sale is still in active production.
[citation needed]
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This is pointless. Everytime I make a point, giving examples and evidence you ignore it. I already proved that arika was a black ark fleetmaster, her description matches the model to the fucking letter. I already told you the significance of the loadout and description of the dwarf, he's part of the dispossessed faction.

>See, armored IG, nothing like WHFBshit.

Fuck off, you know full well that the only steam tank and gyrocopters GW sells are the same as the WFB ones. You haven't even read the book and you're trying to superimpose your bullshit on it.

>Picrelated average city in Azyrheim.

Utterly irrelevant. Azyrheim is one city in one realm. OFC it's going to look fancy, it's one of sigmar's places of dwelling. In fact, the AoS books make a very clear distinction between the fancier styles, architecture and nobility of azyrite citizens v other realms.

Go look at the illustrations from Shadows over Hammerhal (in fact, read the fluff from it). Go read city of secrets. You couldn't have picked a more irrelevant "average" if you tried.
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>>54164953

Thanks for reminding me about them, gotta pick up one of their awesome female vampyre lords.
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>>54165272
>Fuck off, you know full well that the only steam tank and gyrocopters GW sells are the same as the WFB ones.
Okay, show any WHFB army which can run full armoured division list.
>Azyrheim is one city in one realm.
Yep and it's high-tech metropolis.
>AoS books make a very clear distinction between the fancier styles, architecture and nobility of azyrite citizens v other realms.
And compendiums describes Freeguilds, aelves and manlets as forces of Azyrheim
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>[citation needed]

Again, go read city of secrets. It's very obvious that it's talking about freeguild. It called them freeguild. I noted named examples of regiments of freeguild to give you something to look up should you choose to actually read something. The only models in the freeguild range are those taken from the faction formerly known as empire. I already gave you examples of the fashion typical of the faction and weapon types used within their units, which are exactly the same as the units from the faction formerly known as the empire.
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>>54165272
Oooops, lost half of the post
>I already proved that arika was a black ark fleetmaster
You didn;t proved, you've just said it.
>to the fucking letter.
Yeah because none else using a letters.
>I already told you the significance of the loadout and description of the dwarf, he's part of the dispossessed faction.
So what? Your description
>blackpowder pistol and a large axe.
it's a fucking squat with power-axe and autopistol.
Eat shit fantasycuck and just accept that your old models soon will be phased out and replaced by something which fit the setting.
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>>54165341
>Again, go read city of secrets
It's your duty to provide proofs for your claims
>It's very obvious that it's talking about freeguild. It called them freeguild.
Yes, they've called freeguild.
>The only models in the freeguild range are those taken from the faction formerly known as empire.
So what?
>I already gave you examples of the fashion typical of the faction and weapon types used within their units,
Nope, you didn't IG, Dark Eldars and Squats fits your description perfectly
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Seriously, can we stop responding to the warmahorde twatwaffle?
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stop
feeding
the shitposter
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>>54165084
Surface looks too smooth to be a Nurgle model. Don't GW sculptors tend to put boils and such all over their Nurgle models?
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>>54165061
>Shadowy cthulhu-esque dark aelf mariner faction
That would get me into sigmar.
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>>54165272
Just stop responding to him already. Every thread he comes in to argue semantics and act retarded. You'll never get anywhere with this discussion and it's just shitting up the entire thread. You are right, and he is wrong.
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>Okay, show any WHFB army which can run full armoured division list.

What does this have to do with anything? IDGAF about rules, this is about fluff.

>Yep and it's high-tech metropolis

Still the worst representative sample you could have picked. You're dumb as a pack of squigs. You can't pick one super high tech celestial city and use it to make generalisations about the nature of a faction which is found in countless free cities.

>And compendiums describes Freeguilds, aelves and manlets as forces of Azyrheim

Wrong for a variety of reasons.

1. The word 'freeguild' isn't used once in any of the compendiums. You might be thinking of 'empire'.

2. The short scrap of fluff in the start of the compendium is irrelevant; it's a blatantly obvious bandaid solution used before all the renaming of factions which occurred for the release of the Grand Alliance books.

3. Even if they are described as being forces of Azyrheim, does that imply that they aren't found elsewhere? Are you really trying to tell me that the only place freeguild are found or from is azyrheim? Again, read some lore from shadows over hammerhal or city of secrets. The latter book states that troops come from all over the place, both from azyr and from reclaimed tribespeople.

Hell, just read the freeguild guard description on the webstore, which states "Freeguild Guard form the mainstay of the Freeguild's armies. As well as forming a standing army, they serve as city guards and enforcers of all local laws." You can't tell me that one realm can supply enough freeguild troops to support the free cities of every other realm. Unlike stormcast they actually have to hold ground instead of endlessly crusading against chaos.
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>>54165465
>You are right, and he is wrong.
>fantasycuck keep dreaming
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>>54165465
The funny part is that the enterfag is spamming not only here but in /40kg/s too
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>>54165488
>this is about fluff.
And I'am talked about fluff, about IF armoured regiments fluff.
>celestial city
It's not Sygmarion, it's city of mortals.
>2. The short scrap of fluff in the start of the compendium is irrelevant
>GW FLUFF IS IRRELEVANT
Nice try.
>Are you really trying to tell me that the only place freeguild are found or from is azyrheim?
You've always can prove me wrong with straight citations.
>they serve as city guards and enforcers of all local laws
So basically PDF/NPC, yeah very relevant army, surely GW keep making these old ugly models.
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>>54165510
>here but in /40kg/s too
Excuse me?
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>>54164929
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>>54165552
So Chaos stuff?
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>>54165547
We are facing the full-time shitposter. I see him every day on 40k generals. He is using this retarded enters between every fuckin phrase - it's like his avatar tho
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>>54165541
>about IG armoured regiments fluff.
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>>54165570
>I see him every day on 40k generals.
Dude, I don't even visit /40kg/
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>>54165565
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>>54165588
It's not part of his body or armor and weapon, just some tentacle growing in Silver Tower of Tzeench
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>>54165582
That's why I'm telling you this. There is no point in responding him. He is just another cheetahfag - report him and ignore or enjoy another shitposted thread
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>>54165565

The Tenebrael Shard is a Dark Aelf /Exiles assassiny type dude.
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>>54165602
>There is no point in responding him.
TOP FUCKING KEK.
Do you realise it was I who you've named as 40kg shitposter?
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>>54165622
Whatever mate. Here is your last (you) for bump's sake. You are doing pretty lame bait-job actually. Cheetahfag was actually funny at some point
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>>54149153
I would love that so much. I've wanted to run a maximum snek list for so long, but it will never work.
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>>54163741
They're the names of the Freeguild Regiment in the city. Apparently, they all got their names from a "Space Marine Chapter Name Generator."

In case you're wondering.

The Coldguard turn to Chaos. The Fire Wolves get killed off screen. The Iron Bulls try to stop the Chaos uprising, but end up needing the Stormcast to save them.

All and all, if City of Secrets is anything to go on, GW isn't really trying to push the Freeguild.
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>>54166084
Because none want to see your generic humans in game. Go back to your dead general
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>>54166084
humans getting corrupted by the threat within is a very common plot hook though. I liked the portrayel of the SC as these cold, mysterieus warriors of legend.
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>>54166132
>mysterieus warriors of legend.
Except they are ony actual force in setting except Chaos
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>>54166132
>humans getting corrupted by the threat within is a very common plot hook though.
And that's the point they are totally irrelevant as army of faction in setting
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just one persons humble opinion on the idea of releasing an entire army expanding the Corsairs faction:

I would rather have a proper realm of shadow release of elves with a kick butt Malerion/Malekith center-piece model.

I know Captain Jack Sparrow is popular with the Disney crowd but it's not appealing to me.
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>>54166159
>I would rather have a proper realm of shadow release of elves with a kick butt Malerion/Malekith center-piece model.
All what they need is just release warscrolls for Dark Eldars
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>>54166159
Both would be great. But the Corsair army is almost there in my opinion. A character on a monster+a wizard+some 'epic' troops and boom, cool faction done.
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>>54166180
>monster+a wizard+some 'epic' troops
>cool faction
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>>54162743
Working on my Steel Ball Run themed carnosaur. I'm honestly terrified of the freehand needed for the DIODIODIO patterns on the side.
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>>54166180
>the Corsair army is almost there

looking at their unit choices at present, I think it will take more work than you're saying.

They'll need:
devastating long range shooting
hard as nails melee tanking unit
vicious hard hitting melee unit
fast terrain ignoring flanking unit with shooting
fast terrain ignoring flanking unit with brutal melee
teleporting unit
some kind of devastating melee leader/behemoth combo that flies
buffing leader type 1
buffing leader type 2
wizard/priest leader
and some amaze-balls warscroll battalions with kick-ass bonuses

I know its a long list of needs but if they aren't going to properly flesh it out into a real army then they shouldn't bother at all, at least that my opinion.
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>>54166287
Well, realistically, they won't ever expand them beyond Ironjaws/Bonesplitter tier with their releases. Also, a single factions shouldn't cover every niche in the game. Giving every army their version of Skyfires is gonna get tiresome really quickly.

>devastating long range shooting
>fast terrain ignoring flanking unit with shooting
Chariot should fill that role, the fast, mobile artillery.

>hard as nails melee tanking unit
>vicious hard hitting melee unit
>fast terrain ignoring flanking unit with brutal melee
>teleporting unit
How b'out a unit of elite corsairs/beastmasters mounted of freakish deep-sea monsters that can deepstrike?

>some kind of devastating melee leader/behemoth combo that flies
>buffing leader type 1
>buffing leader type 2
>wizard/priest leader
Characters are their biggest weakness atm, since the fleetmaster is tax and shit. However a Character on a big (deep sea) monster, and some deep sea wizard/priest would fix that. I'd relegate the Fleetmaster to the buffing role.

>and some amaze-balls warscroll battalions with kick-ass bonuses
The warscroll battalions/traits could shore up their lack of mortal wound with some kind of poison or monster hunting rule?
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>>54166287
>They'll need:
>devastating long range shooting
>hard as nails melee tanking unit
>vicious hard hitting melee unit
>fast terrain ignoring flanking unit with shooting
>fast terrain ignoring flanking unit with brutal melee
>teleporting unit
>some kind of devastating melee leader/behemoth combo that flies
>buffing leader type 1
>buffing leader type 2
>wizard/priest leader
>and some amaze-balls warscroll battalions with kick-ass bonuses
For what reason?
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>>54165599
Except that there are no tentacles growing from any hero's base. And there are no tentacle monster in Silver Tower, unless you actually believe that was from the non-exist Purple Horror.

Same as Harlequin base having Eldar's ruin.
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>>54166371
>Also, a single factions shouldn't cover every niche in the game.
>exactly what SCE army doing
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>>54166376
>Except that there are no tentacles growing from any hero's base.
So what?
>And there are no tentacle monster in Silver Tower,
Yep, but tentacle is pretty common mutation for Tzeench and Silver Tower itself supposed to be full of mutations
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>>54166393
Well yeah, but they are the posters boys. And I'm not saying that's a good thing either.
>>54166374
Otherwise this general will declare them to be shit as they do with almost every army.
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>>54166419
>Otherwise this general will declare them to be shit as they do with almost every army.
And any reason to change it?
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>>54149766
Why don't you get someone to commission paint the basic troops instead of spending money on more shit?
At least youll have a large painted army instead of many unpainted or still in boxes
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>>54166371
Thanks for the thoughtful response.

The Scourge Runner Chariots "could" fill the role of flanker but it would need a major rules over-haul to do it. They currently have poor shooting and non-existent melee.

I'm wary of trying to have one "elite" unit that is a jack of all trades. More than likely it will end up costing a lot of points and not be very good at anything.

A strong selection of support characters is very important to successful and flavorful armies.

Depending on Warscroll Battalions to make up for a deficiency in the unit roster is a very bad idea. Ideally the Corsairs Faction should have some type of elite unit that can reliably deal mortal wounds, at least at medium range to really be on par with the other "good" armies.
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>>54166513
because i like painting

this is my project for 2017

those photos were taken months ago
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>>54166374
>For what reason?
>>54166441
>And any reason to change it?

releasing a gimped faction that doesn't perform well and depends on gimmicks to be a one trick pony would be a bad idea. A fully fleshed out force with an appropriate roster of unit choices is a much better idea.
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>>54166574
I agree on some points, but the faction should have some weaknesses, on of which could be lack of 'snipers'.

The 'elite' unit should have 3 qualities
>Tough
>Hard hitting
>Mounted / Fast

>Depending on Warscroll Battalions to make up for a deficiency in the unit roster is a very bad idea
I would tie it into their faction trait actually. That way it's less prone to abuse as well.

We also need to remember the Kharibdyss which is quite a cool monster and I think quite decent.

>>54166644
This general is quite quick to scream GIMPED though.
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>>54166644
>A fully fleshed out force with an appropriate roster of unit choices is a much better idea.
Nope
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>>54166706
>Nope
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>>54166588
Ok lets see the progress photos of what you have painted.
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>>54166785
read the thread, i posted some
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>>54166765
Again for what reason if all niches from your post >>54166287 already filled by actual armies
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>>54166827
>why make a new army when there are already armies?

is he being serious?
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>>54166879
What's wrong? Why do you make a serious and relevant update rulse-wise for unsupported army?
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>>54166228
If your heart is wavering anon, do not paint
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>>54166879
Take a wild guess which retard you are responding to.
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I think the definition for Legacy Units in AoS in the Lexi is a good one.

>>This is a list of all units playable in Warhammer: Age of Sigmar that have been named by Games Workshop in the Army Compendiums released with Age of Sigmar, but didn't get a warscroll of their own. It does not include any "home grown" units.

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Warhammer:_Age_of_Sigmar_legacy_units
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>>54167075
you are correct. at the back of every compendium is a list of units that didn't make the cut and weren't given rules for AOS. pic related.
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How friendly is this general?
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>>54167397
It's usually better when there are new releases, but kinda sucks when it's dry like right now.
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>>54167172
Well there's also the armies list on AoS App that still use the old names like Dark Elves and Beastmen.
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>>54149777
Those liberators with the round shields look excellent
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>>54167397
It's a bit of shitshow desu. Lot of shitposting, and only sparsely actually good content.

The 'we need releases' is imo damning. Seems like this general can't sustain decent discussion without (big) monthly releases.

The game is a lot of fun though
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>>54167075
>Lexi
Nope
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>>54166287
>devastating long range shooting
We already have SCE and Sylvaneth for it.
>hard as nails melee tanking unit
>vicious hard hitting melee unit
We already have SCE and Destruction for it
>teleporting unit
We already have SCE.
>some kind of devastating melee leader/behemoth combo that flies
>buffing leader type 1
>buffing leader type 2
>wizard/priest leader
>and some amaze-balls warscroll battalions with kick-ass bonuses
We already have SCE, Sylvaneth and Tzeench for it
Fuck off fantasycuck, there is really no need in your outdated models
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>>54168645
>thinks a list of the things a competitive army needs is wrong if it includes things other armies can do
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>>54168477
Why?
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>>54168994
Why do we need copies of already existing armies
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>>54169024
>SC exists therefore end all production on all other armies permanently.
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>>54169139
>end all production on all other armies permanently.
>Legacyshit = all other
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>>54169253
>SC has shooting units therefore no other army should ever have shooting units.
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>>54164062
That's one of the nicer districts of Azyrheim. There are mentions of more shadowy and criminal districts in the Grand Alliance Order book.
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Hey guys!
Duncan fukken does it again mang
I really want to recreate his freeguild guard on the right side of the picture for my own order army but im not sure what bits he used, can someone help me identify them?
The bodies are from the tzeentch cultists
the shields and weapons are from SCE sprues
The heads are really what I can't figure out, I thought they might be from marauders but no luck, are they 3rd party heads? (I'd find it hard to believe that GW would allow them to put up non-GW bitz on their community site though)
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>>54169401
>There are mentions of more shadowy and criminal districts in the Grand Alliance Order book.
Yet still it's high-tech metropolis
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>>54169297
>>SC has shooting units therefore no other army should ever have shooting units.
Well technically something like it, because that's who gameplay variety works, besides we already have 4 armies with shooting focus, SCE, Sylvaneth, Destruction and Kharadons
Again, why do we need ol ugly models from WHFB?
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>>54169776
>that's how gameplay
>>
Imagine what chaos warrior heads would look like if you cut the horns off.
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Does anyone have any / know of any homebrew battleplans / campaigns for skirmish?
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>>54169840
>homebrew
You have to go back
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>>54165199
I'm confused by what you mean by "use". As in walk through? Anyone or anything can do that, but if you mean deactivate or reactivate than only people with powerful magical abilities can.
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>>54170119
>Anyone or anything can do that, but if you mean deactivate or reactivate than only people with powerful magical abilities can.
So Sygmar
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>>54169776
>thinks a well rounded army with access to units that fill the spectrum of battlefield roles is wrong

>thinks every army should be shoehorned into one army list with one gimmicky overemphasis on doing one thing
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>>54170258
>>thinks a well rounded army with access to units that fill the spectrum of battlefield roles is wrong
Yep, it's wrong whe these rkles filled by atual armies.
>>thinks every army should be shoehorned into one army list with one gimmicky overemphasis on doing one thing
>Thinks
Where?
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>>54170250
>10 codex in 6 months for 40k 8th
> less than 10 codex for AOS in more than 2 years

well one could fly off the handle and get upset about that... or just be cheerful and say "good for them".
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>>54170360
Well, there are 18 AoS Battletomes, with 3 of them getting deprecated.
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>>54169840
I've wanted to adapt the guys vs monster plan from the ghb to skirmish but I don't have anyone to play custom battleplans with. I just think it might be more fun/narrative with a dozen dudes fighting a big monster rather than 40 dudes fighting a monster.
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>>54170523
Pestilens
Tzeentch
Everchosen
Seraphon
fyreslayers
Kharadron
Ironjawz
Blades of Khorne
Sylvaneth
Stormcast
Flesh Eater
Chaos Dreadhold
Dominion of Chaos
Beastclaw Raiders
Bonespitterz

still no elves in there so not satisfied.
>>
ok guys looking to get into AOS, would a start collecting demons of tzeentch box added to the stuff from silver tower that i've already got (gaunt summoner, acolytes, a few horrors, tzangors and an ogroid thing) plus a changeling that i've already got be a decent start to an AOS tzeentch force?
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>>54171068
I think you could make it work.
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>>54169621
seem to be tzeench heads.
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