Pathfinder General /pfg/

Why doesn't she put the strap back up, /pfg/?

>>54121287
Because she's a slut, as all elves are.

We were on page 7, shitlord.

I've got my sphincter fingering glove on for when I roll some 20's tonight

Rolled 1, 1 + 1 = 3 (2d4 + 1)

>>54121057
Rolling cup size for an elf.

>>54121366
She be flat.

>>54121380
Nice. Flat is justice.

>>54121366
FLAT

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>>54121366
Perflat

>>54121249
That elf ear thing can't be canon...

Good job creating a duplicate thread, retard.

>>54121462
It's literally common sense.

>>54121482
Why would elf ears be more sexually sensitive?

Rolled 3, 2 + 2 = 7 (2d12 + 2)

>>54121057
Rolling for a female half-troll Oggr!

>>54121513
They are very sensitive and thus full of nerve endings. Anything full of nerve endings is erogenous.

>>54121520
Well! For her size, looks like she'll be smol!

>>54121527
Why are they sensitive? If they're just as densely packed with nerve endings as human ears, they wouldn't be more sensitive. The nerve density would have to be higher. Why would it be higher in the outer structure?

>>54118418
Reminder: if you're not a self-shilled titty monster or a grimdark ASoIaF knight, you're not getting into WotR.

Rolled 2, 2 + 2 = 6 (2d6 + 2)

>>54121057
Rolling for a ulfen skinwalker

Anyone have the page that has the sunsilver and singing steel stuff?

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>>54121630

>>54121287
She's trying to be sexy.

>>54120549
Didn't Protag list six other apps that were for Saturday but he decided on Tuesday in the end? I think looking at those is important too, to see what he wanted.

>>54121607
I want Seraphina to go into Mom Mode with Bethany!

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>>54121675
Thanks man.

What's the best ways to bully orcgirls?

>>54121607
>Servant is a Tier 2
>Literally a generic backstory with no connection to the Worldwound

>>54121833
With your words and charms, since they have -2 to all mentals

Orcs should either have +2 Constitution on top of their +4 strength, or have no Charisma penalty! Orcs have rights too!

>>54121833
Overpower them in a wrestling competition and DON'T rape them.

>>54121846
Actually, that's an interesting subject. what is the chief difference between Tuvarkz's opinions on the characters and the board's opinions?

>>54121879
Masterwork half-orc

>>54121879
If Kobolds can't have nice things, neither can you!
They should be able to pick one mental stat to not have the penalty, desu

>>54121707
>Leofric with Bethany
>Seraphina with Bethany
Anybody else?

>>54121558
The tips and upper edge of an Elf's ears are extremely dense with nerves because they're meant to be nibbled on during sex, as a means to induce further pleasure and strengthen the bond between partners.

Long-lived races are generally monogamous, and few are as long-lived as Elves. This means they're built towards an almost obsessive bond with one person.

Tuvarkz just said in Discord chocolate characters get in above everyone else, regardless of app quality.
Sasuga.

>>54121926
Elminar seems to be the type that would just act as a shield for her, Leonard would most likely try to be the perfect gentleman, Cyrisse looks like she'd get along well with beth, IMO.

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>when you want to talk about Avowed or the PoW errata, but the updates to both feel like they're still months away
>Tav still exiled to the DSP Gulag, so there's no easy way to prod for quick Q/A about upcoming changes or clarification on how shit works

>>54121934
Yes, elves make for top tier faithful waifus.

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>>54121675
>dancer's garb

Will belly dancers be the new meta?

>>54122012
It doesn't allow bonuses to versatile performance, so no.

>>54122001

Riven Hourglass needs to be hit with a nerf bat several times

>>54122055
Your FACE needs to get hit with a nerf bat several times! Because you're too charming!

>Two /pfg/s
>again
>One thread is magical artifacts, one thread is elf waifu memes and discord bullshit
>This is the thread you chose

>>54122055
Oh no, Martials getting combat utility that isn't CC or Damage! What a travesty!

>>54122082
Elf waifus are great tho.

>>54122147

t. Rapid Strike & Minute Hand

How many characters can you control at the same time?

>>54122173
One. it's the ONLY amount of characters a Player should control. any more and the game slows down to an unplayable slog. GM is exempt, because they're running all the NPC's.

>>54122173
Maximum 2.

>>54122001
Well, I'm here long enough to give out a consolation prize. Malefex has been successfully updated; should now have the proper action costs and be free of minor formatting errors

>>54122167
t. PFS mongoloid

>>54122173
Depends on the content available to you. Are you singleclassed or gestalt?
Promethean Alchemist||Hedgewitch could net you 5. Your actual character, The Homunculus, an Animal Companion, a Conjuration Companion, and a familiar. Hedgewitch alone can account for 4 of those.

>>54122055
What does it do that's so terrible? I've never gotten to play POW, and I've heard in another game that banned POW before I got there that Riven was a problem.

>>54122224

Yeah lets just let those primal warrior stance warders hit for 8d6+12 three times a round at level 5. What great non combat utility that is!

You're a faggot.

>>54121926
How is albinism viewed in Golarion, or even among different ethnicities? She might be seen as anything from lucky to cursed, depending.

>>54122243

Multi attacks, perma haste, some of the counters are too strong

>>54122269
Hey, I wasn't the one who jumped to t. posting first.

>>54122287
My understanding is that most places view it as a health concern, but makes the person more visually interesting/exotic.

since 'health concerns' are the realm of gods and creatures of pestilence, it'd largely be viewed as a curse by most countries that don't specific have albinism as meaning something special. Said special thing might ALSO be a curse, since in Japan for example (and thus the stand-in for Japan in golarion) it represents someone who's close to death.

>>54122243

All of the disciplines that are too strong are basically because of multi-attacks. Although the multi-attacks on their own are not all of the problem. The other part of it is that some of the boosts last all round, and some stances add ridiculous amounts of damage.

So you can have a level 4 character making 3 attacks a round with a twohander and adding a boost to all of them. None of this is even hidden too, if you're paying attention why wouldn't you take multi attacks?

>>54122347
In my opinion, it's the stances and damage boosts that need to go, not the multihits. Stances like primal warrior offer basically nothing besides damage, when they would be the best mechanic to add out of combat utility. I do wish that there were more boosts that gave effects that were at best indirect damage bonuses and lasted multiple turns like time skitter. Time skitter has a really nice feel to it with wanting to maintain it, but also wanting to use counters, other boosts, and class features. More boosts need to promote a decision and opportunity cost of using.

>>54122394

Time Skitter does not have a nice feel to it. It lasts long enough you'll at most need to refresh it once, at later levels you'll likely never need to refresh it.

Multi hits are okay but they need to not come before iteratives.

I agree on stances though, they need to just get removed. They're not interesting at all, just "pick your passive bonus"

>>54122269

It's still small time compared to my big dick wizard.

>>54122460
I think time skitter might be a little too long. Perhaps a 2 round duration would be best.

Multi-hits before iteratives is a bad decision on DSPs part, but I don't think it's a complete disaster, honestly.

The biggest thing with multi-hits is that they're basically the only way to remain competitive with 1pp martial chargepounce builds, and PoW doesn't actually have that much utility beyond some senses, movement types and requiring a high-ish mental stat. The big reason I even play PoW is because the 5 ft step + full attack / charge paradigm of 1pp is boring as hell. I frankly don't give a shit if PoW can literally run circles around the 1pp guys and do the same damage. 1pp combat is slow and grating. What I do have an issue with is the damage of the stances and boosts being so easily exploitable on top of the multihits allowing for 150 dpr at 5th level.

>>54122292

You're going to have haste on during fights anyway unless your group is complete shit or an all caster party.

All it's really doing is removing an item tax that every martial has to suffer with.

If you can't handle a shitload of attacks from one character in a single turn you're going to be extremely ass hurt about core PF.

>>54121607
That's OK, I only care about Linnorm Kings.

>>54121607
>Grimdark
>Rory submits edgy South African mercenary war criminal

Does that count?

>>54122610
Oh well. at least i can make my Sworn Protector Warder there.

>>54122347
>>54122460
>some of the boosts last all round, and some stances add ridiculous amounts of damage.
>stances needing to be removed

Boosts and stances being anything but utility feels pretty bad, since you're forced to pick between "do cool thing" or "do more damage". Removing stances seems like kind of a dumb idea, because having a passive ability you can toggle out IS inherently cool, the problem is just that some stances are straight up "bigger damage numbers" and that's the realm of "practical and optimal, but boring as sin". When your choices are "Get Scent that can detect incorporeal creatures", "generate infinite ammo", or "do +initiation modifier damage", the choice is obvious.

>>54122631
>Warder
Where's that from?

>>54122644
I personally prefer "gain all undead immunities (without the weakness of gaining the subtype) and 100 ft fly speed or gaining a standard or move action each turn, never being surprised + staggered in timestop

>>54122676
Path of War? i go by the assumption that all people on this board know what it is......but basically, it's a Tank Class. the "Sworn Protector" Archetype focuses on protecting one specific individual, instead of multiple people.

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>>54122631
Want to be the sworn protector of a bloodrager orc aasimar?

>>54122706
Hey, i'm already offering my Services to the nearest Cute Witch. can't protect more than one person until level 8, you know.

>>54122644
I'd actually make a case that minute hand is one of the boost that actually can be a bit more in-combat utility. It can be used as a pseudo-quicken on other standard actions. Say you're a warpath follower, you could cast a spell, move, and still attack. To me, working the action economy is a lot more fun from a playing the game standpoint than just "+2 to attack and damage on all attacks this round"

>>54121607
Does this mean we might see some apps designed to mesh with a character in Tier 1?!

>>54122704
I don't keep up with 3pp stuff.

>>54122719
I whole-heartedly agree. I likewise enjoy forcing my opponents to deal with me in less-than-direct ways by proper use of counters

>>54122683
Well obviously those will be better, but you're comparing a bunch of high level (8th, judging by the time stop) stances to a gaggle of 1st level stances here.

>>54121973
In all honesty, Leonard is more likely to -be- courted than to actually court anyone. His mom might have been a paladin of Shelyn, but he basically came to Mendev with only one thing on his mind; Sending the demons back trough the Worldwound. Although, it'd be kind of adorable to see him get involved with someone. Would probably help him cope when he finds out he has fiendish blood too.

>>54122860
I want to see Leonard awkwardly courted by Sappy-sama's slender small-breasted Shelynite slut!

I've got 2 traits and a drawback pretty much set in stone for a character:

>Pride (Drawback), because it fits.
>Outcast, because he was always and outcast, which became more and more pronounced the older he got, much due to his pride and headstrongness. Also, I needed to regain Survival as a class skill.
>Tusks, because i really want tusks, even though I can't imagine it being used much.

But I'm not sure about the last Trait. I'm considering Dominator, for +2 Intimidate for Dazzling Display and such, but if anyone has ideas for something more interesting or simply cooler, I'm taking ideas.

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>>54122733
A d12, Int-based, bodyguard.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/warder

Living Grimoire Inquisitor. Is there a way to make it decent?

Weird question:
Our GM wants to run a superhero game using PF, 1pp for now. 25 point buy, can't dump stats below 10, and one stat (whichever we want) becomes a 14. 10th level.

So I want to be either DareDevil like (which I found a build to play a blind monk) or Spiderman like, for this one of the other players recommended me Vigilante class, I don't know much about PF so, how can I build Spidey?

>>54123103
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/vigilante/archetypes/vigilante-archetypes-paizo-inc/wildsoul/

>>54123103

Well, there's actually a Vigilante archetype that lets you do that (Wildsoul), but it takes ages for the fun stuff (web-swinging, etc.) to come online for spiders.

>>54123131
Level 18, or was it 16?, for web slinging when casters are creating other dimensions and have been flying since 5 >_>

>>54121917
I swear I read that as "nice thighs".
Which would have been ridiculous, since Kobolds have fantastic legs.

>>54123166
18

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Seeing Path of War discussion happening, but I'm curious if anyone has mixed Spheres of Power and Path of War in their games.

For those who don't know, SoP is an alternate magic system that lets casters spend "magic talents" to gain basic at-will magic abilities, and refine those abilities and augment them with finite spell points. It does away with some of the biggest offenders in traditional magic, but allows for some potent combinations.

It seems like combining those systems would result in some pretty weird shit, especially both systems in one character.

I kind of want to try it.

>Has anyone ever used SoP and PoW
>He's asking this in /pfg/

Hownew.ru?

>>54123214
My group is doing that in a current campaign. It's pretty fun, and the collective pants-shitting of the party when an enemy shows that it has spherecasting or maneuvers is really satisfying

>>54123168

Anon, if you can see a kobold's legs, then clearly they're not wearing enough clothing. And if they're not wearing enough clothing, then they'll go into torpor the moment it starts getting chilly, and you'll have to carry the little goober around everywhere.

>>54123128
>>54123131
Well, fuck, I'll only get tanglefoot bag 3+Con times a day with that archetype. And stalker sense (uncanny dodge and acting on surprise round).

>>54123250
Yeah its bad

Is Mageknight in Spheres of Power any good?

>>54123279
Its solid as hell

>>54123232
>thinks people in /pfg/ play Pathfinder
Your newfag is showing

>>54123103
Be synth summoner. Srly, is a nobrain

>>54123285
...
Did you like

Just get here from the summer or something?
/pfg/ people -definitely- play pathfinder. Thats why Memegames are a thing

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>>54123237
I guess this one's screwed, then!

>>54123300
>legit autism

>>54123350
>meme arrows

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbt8e14i5suro4d/DRP2820_Malefex_FULL.pdf?dl=0

Here is Dreamscarred Press's malefex, a 3/4 BAB, 6 base skill points, Wisdom-based class.

The malefex has somewhat of a unique playstyle. It spends swift actions to toss around at-will debuffs upon enemies, and then uses standard actions to attack and full attack with weapons. (Please do not use this class as gestalt bait.)

From a cursory inspection, a malefex looks roughly on par with a combat-oriented inquisitor or occultist, but I could be wrong. Does anyone think that an optimized malefex might be stronger than an equally optimized inquisitor or occultist, or weaker?

My main complaint about the malefex is that it has little in the way of noncombat utility beyond the 6 base skill points, the ribbon class features, and the ability to spend knocks (i.e. class talents) on noncombat utilities. A malefex lacks cantrips. The maledictions offer little in the way of noncombat utility, although there is the cheesy trick of using Steal Talent in bag of rats style to gain a constant +2 circumstance bonus to all skill checks.

For that matter, is anything stopping a malefex from constantly maintaining Steal Stamina and Steal Talent on a familiar or a similar pet, thereby reaping the benefits at all times?

>>54123326

Jeez. How did they survive as a species without learning to wear something warm over their fatty little legs?

>>54123235
That sounds cool, anon. So what's your party composition?

>>54123356
Meme arrows cannot pierce ass burgers.

>>54123387
>A more than probably well thought, balanced, efficient and fun class
No, thank you, my Gm will only let me play something like Kineticist and have an awful time like Paizo intended

>>54123237
Yeah, well, joke's on the world, because I like my women in layers of cuddly clothing.

can someone post the AA page with the new armors?

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>>54123529
I got chu senpai

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>>54123529
Here's the stat page for them.

>>54123543
>>54123539
yur a tru fren famalam

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>>54123395
It's detachable, silly!

>>54123462
Do you need a hug?

>>54123769

Not that anon but I need a hug.

>>54123835
Tell us your sorrows, hugless anon

>>54123870

Lets start with wasting away to Entropy and move on to the subtle ennui that infects my life.

>>54123237
What if they're warmblooded, like dinosaurs?

>>54123893
Feel known, my friend. I'm sorry to hear it, but I can't do much more than suggest you seek help and raise a glass for you

>>54123893
Get a fucking job

>>54123945

Then they should stop tricking larger people into carrying them around "because it's cold".

>>54123893
>the subtle ennui that infects my life.
I'm sorry you're French, dude. That blows.

>>54124009
Hey, I don't blame them. I'm also warmblooded and don't like to walk in the cold. If I could trick giants into carrying me around I'd also do it.

So have all you dudes been playing Pathfinder since it came out, or have you wandered off to other games and then come back to it?

Is there anyone here who went right from 3.5 to Pathfinder and has basically been playing 3e for 15 years and not gotten tired of it yet?

>>54123387
I'ma use it as Gestalt Bait and there's not a thing you can do to stop me!

>>54124187
I went into Pathfinder from 3.5, but I take breaks from it every so often to try WoD, Cyberpunk, 5e, and other stuff.

Post pictures of stylish duelists!

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>>54124187

Yes but I play other things too. I swear.

I want to play a worshipper of Erastil. The issue is, what would be better, a cleric of Erastil, a druid, an avowed??? How best do I embody his ideals and still add to a party?

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>>54124245
I try to put the artist in the filename when I can.

Has anyone tried the dueling rules from Ultimate Combat?

>>54124267

How about a bowadin?

>>54124267
What are the ideals of Erastil?

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>>54124367
>http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Erastil

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>>54124367

He's the LG god of hunters, farmers, pioneers, and other rural types. Puts a lot of emphasis on hard work, honest living, helping the community, and having 400 babies.

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>>54124402
And misogyny

>>54124414
God the Paizo devs are a bunch of cunts. It's like if you took the kind of dickhole who likes to police what their friends say, and then give them actual authority over everyone around them.

>>54121607

I'm surprised that every single app to WotR has a sheet posted. That means that there aren't any to easily eliminate at this point

>>54124475
Welcome to the new age.

>>54124414

Eh, people can argue whether he is or not, but I like him. He's the guy who gave early humans his bow, and taught them how to overcome all the nastiness the wilderness could throw at them. He's got our back.

>>54124414
He could've just said "He favors hetero marriages, but doesn't go out of his way to isolate the gay gene" and not have to go on a tangent about political correctness among the deities.

>>54121607
Something something grapes. Something something foxes.

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>>54124627

Is this how foxes in /pfg/ games play out?

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>>54124644

Sometimes. But sometimes, they play out like this.

>>54124692
>diving face first into a hole

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>>54124811
How much time passes between when you wake up and when you go to 4chan?

How can increase my monks damage taking into account stuff like decisive strike, greater mighty wallop, superior unarmed strike and improved natural strike don't exist?

1pp only.

>>54124827
Not nearly enough time, if I have to be honest

>>54124841
Dragon style

Really just don't play a monk

>>54124841

Dragon Style feats?

>>54124841
+2 Amulet of mighty fist or Bodywrap of Mighty strikes, take the growing quality and you can now do the "blowing your thumb to make your fist larger" trick from cartoons.

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>>54124692
>>54124811
This is what foxes are SUPPOSED to do in the winter, you dumb dumb.

They hunt for little creatures inside the snow.

>>54124841
Magic items. Greater Magic Fang. Styles, depending on your build. Are you going unarmed? Using a monk weapon is also viable.

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I updated the ensoulment image album (some new stuff, some old). NSFW near the bottom.
http://imgur.com/a/FgYCa

>>54124841
>Be an Unchained Monk
>Have 25 PB, pick a +Str/Wis race, pump Str up
>Take Dragon Style
>???
>PROFIT!

Guys, look at the gobsmack knock on malefex. They get high heel bonuses

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>>54124873

Yes, I know. It still looks silly.

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>>54121249
>tfw play half-elves often, but never a full elf

>>54124883
Fuck off, attention whore.

>>54124841
To the point of 3.5? not even in its wildest dreams close. Dragon style and that's it.

Is putting 1st level players up against a level 2 were-raptor a dick move?

>>54124883
Woah what is this

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>>54124956
Yes, since PCs at that level can't afford a way around DR.

>>54124962
OwO

>>54124883
Reminder to post greentexts

>>54124984
Fine, what about a level-3/4 skinwalker?

>>54125009
Sure, as long as it isn't Ragebreed Barbarian or Alchemist with 6 attacks at full BaB.

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Whats the best way to fight undead and ghosts when you are level 1-3?

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>>54125026
All Cleric party.

>>54125026
Undead: Holy water
Ghosts: Holy water or a skald who gives you ghost touch or magic weapons for all of the party.

>>54125026
be a paladin
don't be not a paladin

>>54125009
>Alchemist with 6 attacks at full BaB.

You can do that? I was just going to give him vivisectionist's sneak-attack

>>54125026
Tell your Wizard to prepare Magic Missile and Protection from Evil.

>>54125050
Two-weapon fighting and rapid shot give you 4 already, not sure where the extra 2 come from.

>>54125057
Natural attacks, my dude

>>54125026
there's a half-orc racial trait that lets you affect incorporeal targets at 50% effectiveness even with mundane gear. that's your best bet.

>>54125057
Ragebred with one feat that gives you an extra trait when trasnforming gives you 1 Gore, 2 Hooves.
Barb or Alchemist, you can get easlily 1 Bite and 2 Claws.

3+3 = 6. You'll only need two Rage Talents and 1 feat, or 1 mutagen and 1 feat, piss fucking easy with Ragebred (Boar skinwalker).

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What Oracle archetype or mystery is best for playing with the clouded vision curse?

>>54125115
Loracle, so you can catch visions of past events through occluded sight.

>>54124883
And here we see the final nail in the coffin of /pfg/, killed by "celeb" culture. A manufactured meme who was made by being handed a spot in a high profile game because she's a friend of the DM and can draw. Now we're going to suffer through months of greentexts and shitty drawings while the thirstlords of the thread will beg for more hand-draw titties like a bunch of horny eight year olds. It's going to be worse than RotJR's attention whores. It's going to be worse than Rory. It's going to be worse than LOGS. I beg you to do everybody here a favor and enjoy your game among yourselves, but keep this shit off of /pfg/. We need less like this, not more.

>>54125153
>we

>>54125153
For fuck's sake get over yourself, anon. I didn't get in either and I'm disappointed too, but there's no reason to go throwing salt all over the place.

>>54125057
okay, reasonably speaking how shitty is this:

They fight a lvl 4 vivisectionist. I let them level up before the boss battle so they go in with higher stats.

However, before they go in he chugs an invisibility extract and a mutagen. When they show up he waits for them all to enter then lights a smoke stick and goes to town sneak-attacking for three turns

>>54125171
>Implying I applied for that shit show
No, anon. I'm just somebody who has been here for longer than you. I've watched this place turn from somewhere where we talked about pathfinder into somewhere were we talk about people who play pathfinder. It's obscene. Just look at the latest leaks, we weren't talking about builds or uses for certain items it was just thread after thread full of shitposting about which meme character is going to buy stilettos and a corset first. It's cancer and quite frankly it can fuck right off.

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>>54125115
Ascetic, from the Villain Codex.

Pic related, since Atlas is the only blind martial artist I can think of.

>>54125196
It goes one of two ways: Either they will disperse and not enter that room until smoke and invisibility are gone or they will lose one or two party members to the sneak damage alone, assuming that the enemy hits.

I'd say either the smoke stick or invisibility alone is enough, unless you trust your players to be at the top of their game and have good luck.

>>54124475

I think that both of those responses were classy and reasonable. I mainly take issue with the implication that a good-aligned god can't have flaws or prejudices; I have a feeling a lot of my Good deities wouldn't fly in Golarion.


So my memory is rusty and bare with me: But there's a gold dragon in Golarion who is running an island utopia, and only invites the smartest and strongest and most beautiful humanoids to come live there, right?

Well the freelancer who actually wrote that bit was talking about it, being like, "Yea, I included this and that detail implying that he might be sinister, so you can use him as a badguy if you want, but you can also run him straight as a Lawful Good gold dragon, using peaceful methods to improve the lives of lesser mortals".

A few people responded, and the responses were basically, "Good job, you know how to design".

Then one of the devs, I think it was Jacobs (or the other guy with a t-rex avatar?) chimed in to explain that eugenics is DEFINITELY evil and that the dragon is DEFINITELY evil, and you as a player can do what you want but as far as the Official Setting is Officially Concerned he's Officially Evil.

That's where they fuck up.

Its like, look, D&D is a game about Good and Evil, and people don't always AGREE about Good and Evil, and that's a feature not a flaw, I've seen some awesome conversations come out of D&D. The Paizo team's basic approach is to just say, "Hey, these are our values, and the shit we write is kinda based on that, sorry if you don't agree", just come out and say that instead of tiptoeing around and trying to be politically correct.

But there's a point where you're just being a sperg and imposing your values because you can, I think they all cross that line now and then.

>>54125208

Go ahead and contribute some discussion then. All you're doing is dredging up celeb shit instead of letting it go ignored.

>>54124941
Salt

>>54125153
Turbosalt

>>54125208
Supersalty64

Barbarian Princess or King Vendrick for a party that needs someone STRONG, /pfg/?

>>54125277
The Ivory King.

>>54125277
Thicc princess, please.

>>54125240
Mengkare

>http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Mengkare

>>54125290

Thanks.

I'm never going to remember that though, it's too similar to the unique mummy who always smites you to death in Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.

>>54125208
>we weren't talking about builds or uses for certain items
Nigga I could talk about what I want to do with poppets with you right now, but all you seem to want to do is bitch about the things you don't like instead of paying attention to the stuff you want to talk about

>>54125277
>>54125281
Seconding this, or a Loyce Knight.
Ivory King best DLC, even if Alonne has a special place in my heart.

>>54125231
no, you're right, that's too dangerous. half the players are new to the d20 system

Not sure what to do though. I want it to be difficult but I don't want to fuck them up too badly either.

his class is up for debate, but it must be some class that could cast animate dead from a scroll and would make sense to be on an archaeology/paleontology expedition

archaeologist bard makes the most sense I guess, but is that too easy even if I do make him a were-raptor?

>>54125253
I've tried, anon. But I can't do shit by myself against a group of wannabe celebs using anonymity to make themselves seem popular. I just wanted to say my piece and the white knights (probably just celebs defending their own) are already jumping down my throat. I'm fucking off now to /sfg/ where we don't have to suffer your kind. Enjoy being kings of the trashpile.

>>54125368
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

>>54125368
>I've tried
>I WANNA BITCH

Friendo... no one is stopping you from talking about whatever the fuck you want to talk about. The existence of celeb posting doesn't preclude the existence of every other kind of posting. The only one here who doesn't seem to understand that is you, so please, fuck off to /sfg/ and go spread your salt over there.

"I don't like thing"
"ok"
"how dar eyou like thing"

WHats wrong w/ u people

>>54125368

A lot of people on /tg/ will flame you just for being a whiner or a shitposter, it doesn't mean that they are in league with whatever it is you're whining about.

>>54124555
I want to meme about the players! Did you know Leofric and Cyrielle have Bachelor's Snuff as items?

>>54125430
who

How much cheese do you usually bring to the table?

There are have been plenty of games where people go full retard with gestalt, mythic and 3pp stuff and yet there are always applicants that go mild instead of being a cheeselord like the rest.

>>54125446

I go all out but feel bad about it and secretly hope the DM asks me to reign it in. I'd have no problem doing so and could reap the social karma of being a good player.

>>54125364
Investigator with skill focus on UMD to justify it? Remember that you can always justify an enemy fighting unoptimally or being build unoptimally as difficulty adjustment.

>>54125446
About 3lbs, enough that if anybody on the table wants seconds he can have them.

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>>54125368
>Now I'm fucking off to /sfg/
>/sfg/ thread died hours ago at 32 posts

>>54125446
I love to bring a nice fresh log of Mozzarella, sliced and served with tomato, basil, salt, black pepper, olive oil, and just a touch of balsamic!

>>54125446
I try to keep cheese to a minimum. I'd rather focus on what would makes sense from a character perspective.

>>54125446
i created a godwizard with kineticist and oracle gestalted

too many spells so i just act as backline support and be the cute party mascot because im a fox and have high charisma but im happy with that because it makes my party happy :)

>>54125430

Vaguely related to this, what mythic paths would the PC's choose? Does 3PP change mythic at all?

Trickster in particular seems like trash

Please don't give Nodachi of the Righteous attention, its just fueling Tuvarkz descent into a Rory tier annoying piece of shit

>>54125479

Mythic is un-balanceable garbage. It does not create interesting power gains or dynamics. It makes your story-world fall-apart at some of the simplest of mythic spells and mythic martials are killing cthulu 10x over in a single attack.

>>54125364
Just don't do the "one big boss enemy fight" Use lots of mooks, don't ever use the one big guy, it never works

>>54125515
Ur just not roleplaying ti right :^)

>>54125529
Bab Yaga or Neb with their 10 archmage ranks should have taken the entire universe apart by this point. Their mythic spells put them well above even empyreal lords or archdemons/devils.

If we had stats for greater deities, they could probably trounce them into the garbage pail night instantly

>>54125575
Its meme dude

>>54125461

All I know is I really want them to fight a paleontologist who turns into a raptor. If you can think of another solution I'm all ears

>>54125515

I've never read anything from Mythic.

Once I checked out the Paizo homepage when I hadn't been there for a year or two, and I saw the announcement for the mythic book, and that's when I decided that Pathfinder was shit and I definitely wasn't going to play it again.

So, new topic: what is the best fluff book they've done in the last 5 or 6 years? Because THAT would be relevant to my interests.

I <3 Golarion, the writing this company does is wonderful, but their game design is shit.

>>54125584
oh I know, just continuing with an example of WHY the system is garbage

The meme is entirely correct

>>54125627
>He loves Golarion

Oh my god.

>>54125364
I generally don't go for single big bosses. Lower his level and give him a few minions. Post them near the door to attack from either side while he strikes from the front.

>>54125627
>he likes golarion

wew

>>54125575
Is it even possible for a non-mythic to take out Baba Yaga if she was actively resisting?

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>>54125627
You sweet summer child.

>>54125515
>mythic martials
>doing anything
kek

>>54125649
>>54125664
Playing an Inner Seas campaign right now, enjoying the setting. What seems to be the problem, officers?

>>54125446
Depends on the game, but I'm usually above what I need, if the GM doesn't say anything. I like piecemeal stuff, though, so I can lower my output as befits the situation.

>>54125692
WEW

>>54125692
I'm sure it's fine if you're playing a non-binary character.

>>54125671
It's not possible for anything short of a carbon copy of baba-yaga's 'build' and skill-set to even remotely come close

>>54125730
>>54125736
Go on. I'm sure you have actual opinions.

>>54125692
Identity politics, REEEEing, and just not being Paizo's intended playerbase. Take your pick.

>>54125664
>>54125649

Classic Monsters Revisited is probably the best value I've ever gotten from an RPG sourcebook.

The general quality of Paizo fluff in my experience is on the level of "one of the better articles from this issue of Dungeon". And I already thought Dungeon and Dragon magazine were generally better quality than Wizards 1st-party stuff, in terms of both fluff and mechanics.

>>54125783
I still think Paizo would get some serious cash if they wrote a proper book focused entirely on setting fluff.

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So! How was everybody's weekend?

>>54125753
As a male, I'm not allowed to be the ruler of a shitty central Garundi nation on account of my penis and love of women.

I wasn't here for the Armory 2 discussion. Did anybody mention the versatility mod putting things in the Close weapon group allowing Brawlers proficiency and to flurry with nearly everything? Is there something that prevents this, as flurrying with a Butcher Axe seems kinda nice.

>>54125827

Lets see...

>worked
>worked again
>watched Getter Robo Armageddon
>played vidya instead of preparing maps for nect Friday game

Was shit desu senpai

>>54125855
No, the only thing keeping you from doing that is the proficiency thing.

Flurrying with a Scimitar or a Reach weapon would be pretty rad

>>54125754
>>54125736
>>54125730

I'm >>54125627 and also >>54125240

And I'm pretty sure you're just offended because you aren't a liberal. Sorry they weren't politically correct enough for you. Occasionally Paizo lets their politics get in the way of good storytelling but I don't think that happens often, and that would happen even if they weren't open about it. Creators always put themselves into their work and this game is about Good and Evil.

>>54125658
Okay, how about this: a skinwalker ranger(commando) 3/4. He uses summon minor ally to bring in 1d3 archaeopteryxs and then uses them to flank people for sneak attack damage

>>54125827
Pretty shit, and yours?

>>54125827
Got to get drinks and bowl with an old friend of mine. He's heading back to the military soon.

>>54125833

I would give more fucks about a LG farmer-god being misogynistic. And I don't give any fucks about that either. Its fine for a LG farmer-god to be misogynistic and its fine for some country to be a patriarchy or a matriarchy.

Now, you're offended by the matriarchy, and maybe their typical fan is offended by a Good god being prejudiced, and I don't think your feelings are any more or less important than theirs. And I'm sure some of those liberal Paizo fans would not admit this as graciously as I have, they might put on airs like "I'm a woman so my opinion is more important than yours", I know those people exist, and if I were talking to one of them I might scold them for being inconsistent, but in general I don't really care. It's a good setting, and I don't know what the fandom has become recently but it USED to be a lot of smart and creative and awesome people, whiney-liberals-and-all.

>>54125869
Brawlers get proficiency specifically with weapons on the close group, but I assume the modification text trumps this despite it having nothing to do with simple/martial/exotic. Would that be accurate?

>>54125827
Saturday game was cancelled due to interpersonal bullshit and had a few friends stab me in the back, so not great all in all.

Golarion is actually shit because it has no good dragon lore, and its mostly a kitchen sink euro setting

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>>54125827
Pretty good, working through a solo mission before joining the party in a game I just joined. Either about to die horribly or pull off a ridiculous stunt that might just mean get me through alive.

>>54125889
As long as the party isn't versed in counterspelling to shut his shit down, sure. You could even give them to him as straight creatures to make him a crazy bird dude.

>>54126016

I like kitchen sink Euro settings and its the best one I've found so far. I don't know jack about Golarion dragons, though, I never got that far. How does Golarion do dragons?

>>54126075
it doesn't because the setting is shit

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>Invited to a game that a friend is GMing
>Always sounds cool when he describes it
>"Low magic", mostly 1pp
>The current party is a barbarian, a cavalier, and an assassin
>Give it a shot anyways
>The game is super boring
I don't know what I should have expected

>>54125827
Game cancelled due to GM dental appointment. He seems to be doing fine.

>>54125961
It's because of the old fandom that Paizo is as they are now. The thread that started it all had trigger warnings before going into detail how Paizo is problematic for having a multitude of heterosexual characters in their setting rather than 35% of them are gay, as that is how many people in modern society are gay. That thread made JJ vow to add more LGBT characters into WotR, and set off the trend that they're on now.

Also, Paizo has gone on to apologize about the LG farmer god being misogynistic, they've not only openly changed his views but have actually de facto retconned him in favor of a goddess of rebellion and hopeful struggle. No such apology has come for the matriarchies as you've said in your post as being equally important.

Then again, this is also the thread that confirmed Desna, Sarenrae (the de facto heroine of the lore and champion of Good in the setting) and Shelyn have a sort of lesbian threesome going on, which is all fine and dandy until you realize that is in fact the only true goodly divine relationship in the lore. Cayden Cailean supposedly had a fling with Desna yet if you asked me how Cayden Cailean is doing in the lore now I'd laugh at you, as he's more or less a butt boy to his ex-whore Herald.

The setting was good, it is not anymore. People like you are the reason it still somehow exists, like how White Wolf continued to exist after the whole thing about male pregnancy and presenting.

>>54126104
>>54126016
You haven't actually read anything about Pathfinder's setting, have you?

Oh wait, your answer is going to be "its shit because its shit so fuck you" no matter what anyone says.

>>54126016
My main problem with kitchen sink settings is they often feel top-down. I find it feels a bit false, like things exist just because they're cool. Not to say that makes it absolute trash, it just doesn't feel as immersive as I'd like.

>>54126075
Not well. There are a handful of "this great wyrm will be mentioned more than once over the course of the AP because they're the Secret-True-Final-Boss" but otherwise they tend to just be "and then a dragon!"

Maybe look up Mengkare for one will very slightly more lore.

Is it possible to prepare a lower-level spell in a higher level slot?

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>>54126104

I haven't read this one and I guess I was assuming that you had.

>>54126121

White Wolf had something about male pregnancy? Crazy. Didn't they also try to make a WoD book about gypsies, and it was super, super racist?

>>54126162
Trust me, it doesn't really do anything

>>54125827
Pretty decent!

An old PC showed up out of nowhere for a lovely chat, been playing the fuck out of Hollow Knight, and having a good time chatting with the other Ensoulment peeps.

What about you FennecAnon?

>>54126147
I think you need Heighten Spell metamagic, though Occult classes can downcast certain spells.

>>54126147
Yes, but it doesn't change the DC unless you have Heighten Spell metamagic.

>>54126147
www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/#TOC-Casting-Spells#TOC-Preparing-Wizard-Spells
>a spellcaster always has the option to fill a higher-level spell slot with a lower-level spell

>>54126212
>>54126227

Ah, thank you.

This thread is... surprisingly good?

>>54126169
Yes and yes, they explain that male pregnancy is a thing that can and should happen to player characters if they should choose to explore that aspect of their character.

>>54126129


Ah, I see, individual dragons should be high-profile and when you read the setting they aren't. I think I always assumed there was some other dragon-focused corner of the setting that I just hadn't gotten to.

>>54126140

That's legit, I agree to some extent and that's why I don't ALWAYS want a kitchen sink setting, but I think its the best flavor for D&D. "Everything here exists for you to have rad adventurers. And if you look for an explanation for something you'll probably find one, and those explanations constitute their own gonzo form of high-fantasy storytelling, but even that story is ultimately just an excuse for more rad adventure".

>>54126121

As a liberal I take issue with all of that. It really is one of my life missions to badger and harass other liberals when they aren't fair and consistent.

But as a gamer I'm not too bothered with it. Middle Earth has zero gay characters and I still love it, Tolkien was a Christian and I am certainly not, I think that the authoritarian cancer runs DEEP in his setting, but I still love it. So I'm certainly not going to like a game less just because it makes an active effort to represent gay people.

What about you? Do you have ANY tolerance for fiction where the authors beliefs don't match your own?

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>>54126186
Pretty subdued, although Ensoulment did break my heart a little.

How do I build a zealot that does good lockdown with a reach weapon? Race is Angel-blooded Aasimar if that matters any

>>54126273

...I mean, I guess that's good for people into that kind of thing.

>>54126284
Oh yeah, love me a good kitchen sink setting, I just want it to make some slight degree of sense. Which as much as I like that Golarion has options for various places and themes, very few of them seem to have been much consideration regarding how their neighbors would influence them, or what being a center of worship for a particular deity might do to a culture.

do monsters with multiple natural weapons need to full attac to use all of them?

>>54124841
>2d10+19 at best in PF at 20th level
Kek, I remember getting 8d8+40 before reaching 15th level monk without magic items or spells casted on me back in the day in 3.5

>>54126394
Yes

>>54126287
That's too bad; there were so many good apps, I dunno how Protag chose.

>>54126371

Doesn't Holomog literally worship Satan? You can't tell me that hasn't affected anything, LN girl version or not.

>>54126287
Don't be sad, fennecanon! As >>54126432 pointed out, there were so many good apps.

>>54126451
YOU WOULD THINK THAT, WOULDN'T YOU?

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Hey, here's a dumb question for you people.

In the lore, a drow that becomes good aligned changes into a normal elf, and an elf that becomes evil turns into a drow, right? Does that still apply to half-elves?

>>54126121
>until you realize that is in fact the only true goodly divine relationship in the lore.
I don't really see why that's a problem. The greek gods were utter sluts and so were the gods of most pantheons.

Maybe it's because I never really give much of a fuck about deites and stuff in settings, but I don't see ho it takes away from the setting.

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So /pfg/, let's talk about weapon modifications. Specifically, let's talk about the Versatile Design modification. What shenanigans can you pull off using that? Dual-wielding (custom-made) Greatswords at no penalty by making them into polearms that are also shields? Being a brawler and flurrying with a Butcher Axe that's really a Close weapon? Being a Gunslinger that gets Dex to damage with a Longbow (firearm)?

>>54126432
And sneak attack is once per action, right?

>>54126476

Is this a Golarion thing? I've never heard of it

>>54126504

I don't think fighter weapon groups make the weapon count as that weapon.

>>54126451
Asmodeus gets worshiped there as a woman because the matriarchy believes that anyone and everyone can be redeemed eventually. So far I'm not aware of any details on it affecting their society.

But I certainly imagine that Asmodeus both hates being seen as a woman and is absolutely going to take advantage of people thinking he's a LN cunning linguist to twist that nation around his finger in a few generations.

But it will never happen because paizo politics protect them probably

>>54126517
Yep.

>>54126517

I mean, there are apparently instances of elves spontaneously becoming drow, but I don't know that it's explicitly a thing that happens due to their alignment changing.

>>54126517
It is. Drow are elves who have souls tainted by evil, and are therefore black.

>>54126535
I thought Golarion Drow were bluish purple.

>>54126476
I was only aware of elves that turn evil turning into drow, was pretty sure it doesn't work in reverse. And it's not even good/evil, it's a betrayal of all elfdom.

>>54126504
the monk weapon group and the monk weapon special quality are different things, anon.

>>54126504
Putting Brace on things will never not be funny to me. Brace Brass Knuckles, time to fuck up some chargers, boys.

>>54126566
>Starting at 2nd level, a brawler can make a brawler’s flurry as a full-attack action. When doing so, a brawler has the Two-Weapon Fighting feat when attacking with any combination of unarmed strikes, weapons from the close fighter weapon group, or weapons with the “monk” special feature. She does not need to use two different weapons to use this ability.
>weapons from the close fighter weapon group
It totally works, anon.

>>54126587
I may not have read the entirety of your statement, and for that I apologize.

>>54126284
The fact I actually still play this setting and system is evidence enough I tolerate the things Paizo does within it. This does not mean I enjoy it.

>>54126587
>Brawlers flurrying with Scimitars

that's rad

this may be a dumb question, but can sneak attack apply to spells that use an attack?

If so, what if that spell is a healing move?

>>54126548

Do you have an example?

>>54126629
Yes, spells with attack rolls can deal SA. If you're not dealing damage though, no SA. But you could deal extra positive damage to stuff harmed by positive energy and vulnerable to SA.

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>>54125869
>>54125869
>Dervish Dance doesn't have the same clause as Fencing/Slashing Grace about not being useable with flurry
>Just that your offhand can't have anything in it

>>54126615
It doesn't even need to do that, those wave-blades or whatever are 1d6, 18-20/x2, and monk.

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>>54126432
>>54126463
I know this, and based on Protag's picks the game is likely not going to be one that would have been my cup of tea anyway, but the heart isn't always a rational thing.

>>54126657
But isnt healing negative damage?

>>54126666
That's also rad but you have to use Slashing Grace to get Dex to Damage with them, and you can't flurry with them that way though.

>>54126531
Holomog is one of those snowflake nations where their national "sin" is being kinda warmongery yet their neighbors are problematic assholes. Their national weakness is also non-weakness, specifically their lands are still rebuilding which is typically a period of profound economic and social progress which, again, isn't a weakness at all.

The only succor we can have with this is Holomog has only been featured in one book and promptly never mentioned again. Unlike Qadira, which is Jessica Price's pet nation and the most powerful kingdom in the lore.

>>54124841
As far as spells go:
Strong Jaw- Druid 4 or Ranger 3 (APG)
Lead Blades- Ranger 1 (APG)
Enlarge Person (CRB)
Telekinetic Strikes Wiz/Sorc 2 (Psychic Anthology)

>>54126674
Which character was yours, Fennec?

>>54126638
I recall most of the details coming up in one of the older APs, might even have been from back in 3.5

Basically an elf has not only gone evil, but betrays some big war council by opening a portal for invading demons right there in the war room. They turn into a drow right in front of the party. There was a sidebar pointing out that evil wasn't enough, being drow was punishment for turning against their race.

I think it mentions that drow can't go back, but that might have been from a different source and I'm getting them mixed up.

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>>54126710
Now, now, I've got to keep some secrets for myself.

>>54126675
No, negative damage is from Inflict spells. Or your DM can agree and see how much of your healing gets cancelled by adding SA to it.

>>54126714
So you're saying once you go black, you don't go back?

>>54126737
I hope they were cute

>>54126743
It just means you'll have to go drider and put eggs inside her.

>>54126691
Gotta love that nations of slavers with a goddess who hates slavery but is too weak to ever actually punish them for it.

Reminder: don't make a new thread we still have a viable new thread from last thread and there's zero reason not to use it.
>>54121010

>>54126777
the reason not to use it is so page 6 shitters get fucked

>>54126675
Are you sneak attacking with Cure Light Wounds?
You should be able to if that's what you're asking.

>>54126793
Creating unnecessary duplicate generals is no-anime anon level cancer, senpai.

>>54126614

Fair enough, fair enough, sorry if I misread you. But you said the setting was good and "is not anymore", and the things you described didn't sound like that big a deal to me. Its still very common for stories to intentionally put men and white people and straight people in all the good roles, but I don't think that makes the stories bad, and I don't think Paizo is any worse than that. Maybe you disagree?

There's another nuance here, which is that I think it's okay for a setting to just blatantly be a feminist or liberal setting, I have no issue with that, I'm just disagreeing with Paizo's specific brand of liberalism. Some liberals literally think its a good thing to make environments that are SLIGHTLY biased against men, or to hold views which aren't completely fair to men, because they're just counterbalancing the sea of misogyny and republicanism and yadda yadda that is the rest of the world (and they would NEVER use those words, those are my words). I think that's butts. Fair is fair is fair, if you want to see fairness then model fairness, its not a tug of war, prejudice doesn't counterbalance prejudice. But I've talked a lot with these liberals and I still consider MOST of their views to be very fair and reasonable, I would probably have much bigger disagreements with some of my favorite authors if I actually talked to them, its just that their medium doesn't literally force them to systemically define Good and Evil, the way that the D&D genre does.

Anyway! Your answer was actually very helpful and thank you, I'm rambling and I don't necessarily expect anyone to respond.

>>54126793
kys, moralfag

>>54126827
yes, but if its healing is the damage positive or negative?

>>54126829
rewarding page6 posters is beyond cancer

>>54126793
Are you really so desperate to control shit that you'll ignore a perfectly good thread? Fuck you and your personal crusade, we've already been through anime-vs-noanime and pfg-vs-pgg lately, we don't need another hair splitting hissyfit that makes us look foolish.

>>54126492

The problem is that the good gods are never straight.
Not a real problem to me but I'll admit its weird.

>>54126873
Healing isn't damage. If you poke a living person with a CLW, even if it's an attack, it's not going to add sneak attack damage since it's not damage to begin with. Poking an undead creature, on the other hand, would get sneak attack damage.

>>54126873
Negative. The SA damage is precision damage. It doesn't magically become positive energy.

>>54126451
I think you're thinking of Bekyar.

>>54126873
If it's healing then it's not damage, You cannot SA someone to deal extra healing.

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>>54126764
You know they were.

>>54126897
Sneak attack damage actually applies more damage of the same type as the original attack. So a bludgeoning SA does bonus bludgeoning damage, and an acid arrow will deal bonus acid damage.

>>54126903
Alexander?

>>54126875
So is having more threads than is necessary. If you're that upset, report the other thread before this one hits page 8. If it gets deleted then you can make a new one. If it doesn't, then move to the other thread.

>>54126919
Well, I'll be damned. Thanks for learning me a thing.

>>54126903
We need more DETAILS.

>>54126919
>>54126959
'precision' isn't a type of damage all on its own, it's like a tag applied to an existing damage type.

A sneak attack with a piercing weapon will be precision piercing damage.

>>54126674
Out of curiosity, what about the picks don't you like, FennecAnon?

>>54126764
Is cute a character virtue or is it just a joke? Do people strive for it? I've seen it tossed about in the last few threads, and it just strikes me as odd.

>>54127156
Honestly there's nothing wrong with cute, but its by no means always desirable.

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>>54126922
>>54126960
See >>54126737

>>54127015
It's not that I didn't like the picks, anon, just the game that those picks represent. To me the setting was far more interesting than the philosophy angle. I was hoping the philosophical matters would be more of a backdrop or setpiece, but the choices make it obvious that it's going to be in the forefront of all aspects of the game. I wish the PCs all the best and hope they have a lot of fun, it's just not the kind of game I would have ended up enjoying.

>>54127167
I don't think there's anything wrong with cute, it just seems so pervasive. I see it as a tertiary characteristic, usually, but it's been presented to me here as a secondary, if not primary. Being the mascot, having adorable cuddling, being smol, it kinda starts feeling meaningless and artificial. Maybe I'm just a stick in the mud. What level of cute did you usually aim for?

>Humble Beginnings
>Choose one of the following: boot, bucket, frying pan, mug, rolling pin, spade, or stool. You are treated as having the Catch Off-Guard feat when wielding the chosen item. (These items should all be considered improvised melee weapons that deal 1d4 points of bludgeoning damage.)

Oh.. so actually, you've been able to fight with high heels for a long ass time and don't even need the stupid feat.

>>54127331
Hell, the Rough and Ready trait allows you to use any and all tools of your trade as proper weapons. Just figure out some profession that would consider heels a necessary item.

>>54127384
courtesan

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>>54125754
>>54125833
See, I think one major reason I've enjoyed the setting of the campaign is how it's been filtered through my GM, or sometimes completely off-script. Like when we visited the drow.

Because of their disconnection from the celestial bodies in the sky, they didn't keep time as we did. The drow kept referring to "time", but we couldn't understand what they were referring to. That is, until it was "time", and the streets broke out into a violent, but orderly riot. All of the lower classes of drow were murdering and robbing each other in the streets, with permits of course, and patrols of driders making sure all violent activity was lawful.

We happened to be caught in the middle of one such riot, and were held up by a band of thieves. They brandished their blades and commanded, "Give us your coppers!" We handed them a couple of copper pieces, and they handed us a receipt and were on their way.

Needless to say, the ranks of the upper classes were a bureaucratic nightmare, too. It was truly a Lawful Evil society unlike any I had seen, taken to a very amusing extreme. And I can't imagine any of it was from the books.

>>54127398
ok, yeah thats your GM, not paizo

>That Tier 1 for WotR

Let's be honest with ourselves, what can we really see each party member doing at the end of the campaign what what is effectively unlimited power?

>>54127453
who cares, don't give attention to that whore

>>54127192
You are a treasure to this thread and a boon to the board, FennecAnon.

>>54127453

It's a story about PC's who stumble into mythic power. Not those destined to do great things. What it means to come into the power is something that would be a good RP opportunity for the PC's.

>>54127453
Seraphina is a sweetheart and I want to see her becoming the mother of many orphaned children!