Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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How does one beat necrons in this edition as guard? Finding them a pain in the arse.

>>54100761
Taurox spam.

I wish this guy did Ork plastic card master classes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xySKP7DO5zY

For a word bearers army, should I use the CSM box, Mk4 marines or Mk3 marines?

30
fucking
euros
for a single marine character

>>54100828
Luxury goods. And you only need 1 or 2. M:tG players can easily shell 30 per card and they need 60 of them.

>>54100828

Kiwis pay like 50 euros.

>>54100789

Non-Dark Vengeance CSM models are old and shitty so use whatever of those you like the look of. Personally I'd just use the 30K models.

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>‘You are ta’lissera bonded to your team?’

>‘I have that honour, master,’ replied Wellclaim. ‘Six kai’rotaa now. We are very happy.’

>‘Take out your bonding knife.’

>‘Of… of course,’ said Wellclaim, reaching around to the ceremonial dagger she kept in a sheath at the base of her spine. She unclasped the lynx-skin sheath and unfurled the satin cummerbund that bound it around her waist, holding it forth for inspection. It was a truly beautiful example of its kind. She was always proud to show it off, and doubly so to an ethereal.

>‘Now. Take the bonding knife out of its sheath.’

>Wordlessly, she did so. The metal blade slid from its housing with a soft hiss. Something burned behind her eyes, in her throat, in her guts, making it hard to think.

>‘Now kill yourself.’

>Wellclaim reversed the knife in her hands and stabbed herself in the chest as hard as she could, burying the knife up to the hilt in her own heart. Eyes wide, she gasped out a welling glut of blood, toppled over, and spasmed her last.

>A delta of crimson spread out from beneath her, rivulets tracing the hexagonal mosaic tiles of the Ethereals Bringing Calm to Fio’taun.

>‘Clear this up,’ said Aun’Va to his shas’tral guards, ‘and find the other one.’

-Farsight (Book 3)

Fellow Taufags, let analyse this scene. Aun'Va makes a water caste lady to kill herself. Notice the burning sensation in her organs and the dullness of the mind before she obeys. Was this a psychic ability? Pheromones shouldn't work that quickly.

Note : Phil Kelly retconned the Tau blood to be red because he is a dick like that

>>54100789
which ever you think looks coolest, they're all appropriate choices.

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>>54100761
Nobody beats the Warhamsters....

>>54100864
>TAU ARE THE GOOD GUYS, GUYS

>That TSons vs Necron battlerep

TSons are still overpriced garbage, i see.

>>54100864
literally can't be psychic ability

>>54100864
Damn the ethereals are really evil :o??

Primaris intercessor vs tactical squad

Which do you prefer and why? I dropped all my Primaris units and went back to using my grey hunters again; main reason being transportation.

>>54100894

Is this even a question? If you just need troops, Scouts are the best. Tactical Squads are better than Intercessors. The only Primaris you should be using is Hellblasters. Inceptors aren't bad but they're expensive.

>>54100864
Pheromones work virtually immediately upon sensing as they act through neurological circuitry

>>54100887
There is very little the ethereals could do that would make them worse then the other factions.
I say this as someone who despises tau.

>>54100853

Honestly it's taking the fuckng piss on GWs partin regards to its NZ pricing.

$74 NZ for a single character. Equivalent for 47.49 euros. And you have to buy the pair, so now your looking at $148 NZ.

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>>54100891
Not all of them. Aun'Va is the most cruel and ambitious of them though.

Aun'shi is his opposite.

>>54100761

What in necrons is winning? Buddy is on a bad losing streak with his necrons and has lost all hope this edition. Artillery barrage with manticores and wyverns eats everything dont forget your master of ordinance. Punishers tanks are just fun yarrick walking behind pask and some tank commanders in punishers has been my fun list. Especially pasks 20 shots hitting on 2s rerolling ones.

>>54100921
How is he rerolling 1s?

>>54100921
>yarrick walking behind pask

Reading comprehension 101

>>54100911
>THE LEAST EVIL OF THESE ATROCIOUS EVIL SCUMBAG MONSTROSITIES ARE THE GOOD GUYS, GUYS

>>54100750
Part of me wants to get old-style heads and do a OldTrooper/NewTrooper mixup.

>>54100928
Orders. Pask can order himself.

>>54100928
>>54100955

>>54100934 guys c'mon.

>>54100864
Of course it's psyker shit GW has been keeping it as a really fucking obvious """""secret""""" for years

>>54100939
To be fair, the lady's pupil who happens to be a Tau waster caste that got corrupted by the power of Chaos stepped out of line and defied the authority of the Ethereals in the most important council in Tau history in front of everyone and revealed why they were trying to get rid of Farsight and putting the other Tau commanders on ice.

She needed to die to save face and he needed to die because he was a threat to stability.

Anyways, the Farsight expedition force muster numbered 100 billion dudes both Tau and non-Tau allies. That's like outnumbered entire craftworlds many times over. You lied to me teegee by saying the Tau are low on numbers.

How are you feeling about the new Primaris HQs, the Captain and the Librarian?

New Captain doesn't seem worth it next to the Gravis chap

>>54100939
>uplift entire species and build a fucking utopian society for them
>integrate other species into this empire, peacefully much of the time
>tell one guy to kill himself
Wow the ethereals have really done wrong by the tau haven't they.
>>54100955
It only says he can order OTHER tank commanders.

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First attempt with new list builder, any thoughts?

>>54100761
show us your list

>>54100980
>100 billion dudes both Tau and non-Tau allies
including 1 billion kroot dogs and gorillas

>>54100785
and now there arent any rules for these
thanks FW

>>54100980
And the Damocles Crusade deployed billions of guard and dozens of chapters and several hundred fleet ships in its most recent iteration up from the boarder skirmish it was in previous editions.

GW has no concept of numbers and cares not for internal consistency in any way.

>>54100984
>utopian society

It isn't.

>>54100984

Murdering even a single innocent "for the greater good" has been a popular evil trope for decades.

>>54101017
>Evil

>>54101002
We got some information about the size of the Damocles Crusade from this novel. It' said it was so big that the Tyrant of the Maelstorm would be shaken by it, let alone an upstart race.

>>54101007
>No crimes
>No natural diseases
>technology and drones doing half of the work

I don't see how it isn't.

>>54101017
She wasn't an innocent though. She is responsible for her pupil's actions. She brought him to the council and he nearly screwed things up. It's fortunate that nobody believed him.

>>54100840
30 can get you 3 versatile Infinity characters that will bring serious new variables to your lists + a meal at burger King or a kebap after leaving the store.

GW is still an unbalanced overpriced mess. Balancing this huge model range is sadly impossible anyway, wait a couple months when the new stupid shit has crystallized. The most satisfying part of the hobby are the first months after new editions drop, when everything is an exciting unexplored land of unclear power
distribution.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/01/the-fate-of-konor-the-muster-begins-now-july1gw-homepage-post-1/

Which side will you join?

>>54101021
>Ozymandias wasn't Evil

>>54101023
>I don't see how it isn't.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FalseUtopia

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Better Squiggoth rules when?

Stampede working on a 2+ when?

>>54100785
>Was wondering how I was going to make my C130 Wazbom Blastajet
>Forgot I was subscribed to this guy
Thank you for the reminder anon

>>54101075
Probably when FW realizes not everyone wants space marines, so literally never

How are the new Adeptus Mechanicus ?

>valkyrie with rocket pods costs 151
>vulture with twin punisher cannons costs 152
The transport capacity REALLY doesn't seem worth it there.

>>54101091
>so literally never

That's because companies market towards "most people" and not "those few people who aren't everyone".

FW is smart enough to make half a dozen Tau suits and Knights, so clearly the massive amount of Ork players are just shitty customers who never buy anything, and that sounds about right as they'd rather scratch build a Potato Head Gargant than buy a Squiggoth.

Do we think the Primaris Captain/Lt./Ancestor from Dark Imperium Box will only be available in that box? On the AoS box things like the Lord Relictor were only available that way. I know they have other versions of some coming out but I wonder if those specific weapon/armor/pose will only be available through that to get people to buy it.

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How is Meta at 1000 points? I imagine this will do well against hordes but I'm not sure against armies at range. Footslogging isn't going to be as effective until I get Iron Hands chapter tactics back.

>>54101133
How did you fixed the builde? I am drunk and angular is hard.

>>54101117
It is only good for deepstrike trolling or transporting short range/melee units right next to the enemy.
Like some Stormtroopers with melta and be within melta range, or some Ogryns.

Valks are made for love and passion, not waacfagging

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>2 mono-pose chad heros
>45 quid
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>54101126
>look mommy I meme again!

>>54101144
I just never shut down the tab on firefox. Still seems to work.

>>54101070
They don't define the Tau Empire as one in their tabletop games section, checkmate atheists.

But really though, I think it'd be hard to imagine such a large civilization wouldn't have its skeletons in its closet, but I think its a commonly made mistake of trying to assume the Tau are just blue humans under mind control. To them, they isn't anything wrong because they've evolved to follow the ethereals as a "queen" caste. I've not read Farsight yet, but it could be an interesting character development for him to realise that it's simply impossible to make a just society, and has to end up making the same compromises the Ehtereals do, but without the benefit of the control exerted by their kind.

>>54101075
The on a 2 must be intended to be 2+. I know of nothing else like that which is not on 6 or 1.

>>54101158
Question.
Farsight Enclaves are renegades and separatist. If so why does the Empire give them all their new fancy stuff?

>>54100888
Nice link fgt.

>>54101164
I don't know maybe it is intentional that I can run multiple Celestine.
After all this is the most play tested edition ever!

>>54101167
I think the line in the books is that it gets leaked out by defectors and spies, but it is a bit daft that they get everything the main empire does. Maaaaybe I could understand Riptides, as they're now fairly prolific in standard use, but the alternate XV104s, Stormsurge and Ta'unars are all rare, if not still in the prototype stages.

>>54101167

It seems possible that he has plenty of Earth Caste Tau amongst the Enclaves who keep tinkered Ng and developing technology.

>>54101176
>Celestine
>Celestin
>Celestina
>Celestinia
>Celesta

Go nuts.

>>54101157
D:

>>54100897
Inceptors are really good, only 8 power for the squad. Much better than the 12 power for hellblasters.

It all just depends on what army building system you're using

>>54101167
Farsight sympathisers have leaks the recent Tau tech to the Enclaves. It's implied that Aun'shi is behind this since the ship that carried most of the tech-plans and new Tau suit models bears his name.

so do we have any kind of list builder at the moment or do i have to go back to notepad?

>>54101202
Assblasters*

Fixed that for you

>>54101218
notepad, excel or if you really want to torture yourself battlescribe

>>54101218
Battlescribe.
They fixed most of the errors and you can export nicely if you know what you are doing.

anyone have a sample competitive eldar wraith list

>>54101202
>power
found the problem

>>54101057
400 pages of index versus 135 pages of index? Oh and xenos players don't get to add anything to the story?

What a joke!

>>54101246
Joke Index for joke factions :^)

>>54101234
But it's either too much info or too spacious

See what kind of friendly productive thread we can have with Tau posting? Guardfags fuck off forever.

>>54101272
Don't kick the cage ffs

>>54101272
T3 master race!

T3! T3! T3!

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>>54101153
Are you actually serious?

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>>54101272
What's their band name again?
: ^ )

>>54101246
GW favoring IoM is nothing new, but it's ok because they totally lose some meaningless backwater planets that have 0 relevancy to anything as they have countless billion planets (exactly as much as plot needs) and occassionaly some minor skirmishes to tau.

>>54101286
ok nevermind I just checked that

he wasn't joking

>>54101297
>Countless billion planets

Ffs, lern 2 lore

>>54101297
You mean Space Marines! Now Primaris Marines!
For fuck sake Fall of Cadian didn't even have a single IG release and it was their own home world getting fucked up.

>>54101302
at least they motherfucking finally put back weapon/head options

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm asking for my understanding: As long as units share the same faction, they can be taken in the same detachment and be battle-forged, correct?

So, I could take a Space Marine captain, a Space Marine tactical squad, a unit of Wulfen, and a Leman Russ, all in a Patrol Detachment and still be battle-forged, since they all share the Imperium faction keyword, correct?

>local GW only let people join summer campaign if you buy dark imperium or a start collecting box
Yeah, nah, fuck off.

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>>54101153
>23 pounds for a plastic captain
>meanwhile the terminator chaplain is 13 pounds
>FUCKING LYSANDER IS 13 POUNDS

This motherfucker costs as much as a Techmarine with a retinue of 4 servitors.

What the fuck.

>>54101314
Yes

>>54101314
yes. for example guard doesn't get priests or psykers in their own section of the book so they have to get them from ministorum and telepathica

>>54101314
Yup! For now there's nothing wrong with it, though obviously faction-specific rules only affect their faction. It'll probably change when codices get released though in some manner.

>>54101318
Ring up head office m8, they'll shit down his neck for scaring off customers

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Guys, what should I pick? After decades of contemplation I managed to choose three factions - Orks, T'au and Nurgle Daemons. Like the fluff and aesthetic of all of them.
- Orks seem to be a lot of fun with all this kitbashing, mixing the models and making custom thrash terrains.
- T'au have this neat tactical look and retro sci-fi flavor.
- Nurgle Daemons seem to be really easy to run and collect and also I can use them to play AoS (have some players in my area)

I want to play 1000pts and 1500pts games so I don't really want a swarm army - something like ~40 models for 1000pts would be okay.
I'm also okay with different playstyles so it doesn't matter if army is strictly melee or shooting focused.
I want also want to keep it low-budget and base the army on boxed-deals like start collecting and armoured assault boxes
>inb4 ebay
Fourth World country here - ebay is not a thing in my country and shipping costs are ridiculous so I have to buy in LGSs but they have 20%-25% discounts on GW prices so it's not this bad. Also I don't really want to fuck with used and painted models

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>>54101324

>>54101153
What about the other Primaris captain with non-gravis armour? Where is it?

>>54101344
go nurgle/death guard since they got new stuff in the starting box and will get a book soon

you can probably get the nurgle half of the starting box pretty cheaply from people who only want the primaris marines

>>54101318
I feel that were missing some vital information such as why not just talk to the guys about it? But if your autism is flaring up again complain on facebook to GW.

>>54101318
I'd gladly buy a starter set with Sisters of Battle.
No?
Ok how about a start collecting set.

Ok how the fuck I'm going to buy you something I you don't have anything for me to buy?!

>>54101328
>>54101331
>>54101333

Thanks! So all the faction keywords are basically nested and rules affecting higher level faction words (Imperium) will affect more units than rules that affect lower faction keywords (<Chapter>, Astra Militarum, etc).

I can dig it.

>>54101342
The annoying thing is this redshirt is usually pretty based. For example, he'll help arrange a swap if two people want different halves of a starter set. It's a bit weird that he's pulling this shit.

>>54101375
I did talk to him, it was when talking to him that he told me this. Nice projecting though.

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>>54101383

I got a pewter ingot...

>>54101294
2 Thicc 3 Furious

>>54101410
But anon, I want to buy a plastic kit for the basic troop choice like everyone else.
I'm not even asking for true scale SoB like the marines player wanted and now getting replaced by Chadmarines.

Monkey paw wishing is a bad idea.

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r8 muh boyz

Brigade Detachment:
Boss Zagstruck
2x Weirdboyz: 1 Da Jump, 1 Warpath
6x10 Shoota Boyz: Big Shoota, Nob w/ Kustom Shoota and Big Choppa
3x5 Kommandos: 2 Burnas, Nob w/ Big Choppa
3x30 Stormboyz: Nob w/ Big Choppa
3x5 Kannons

exactly 2000 points, 12 CP

>>54101098
Looking pretty good to me anon. I dont play them but from what I've seen they go pretty hard. Although apparently cantocles/doctrines were nerded a bit the army still looks great. My favourite thing about them is that every unit serves an exact purpose and there isnt a great deal of slot crowding going on unlike alot of other armies

>>54101437
>12 CP
15

>>54101272
Can't you go one fucking thread?

>>54101442
Isn't brigade +9?

>>54101437

Where the fuck is your 30 boyz unit to teleport in charge range?

>>54101355
He's a store Anniversary purchase

>>54101460
I was going to use da jump to teleport stuff around for objective grabbing in maelstrom missions, plus with 90 stormboyz I doubt I'll need it

>>54101457
the biggest one is brigade which gives you 12 points and you get 3 for being battle forged

pretty sure

>>54101437
You're going to be hard pressed to use even half of your CP in a standard game

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>>54101470
double checked, brigade is 9 CP

>>54101482
oh shit i've been playing it wrong

thanks

>>54101474
It's really not that hard to use 12 command points. Just reroll one dice every phase.

>>54101363
I don't really want to run marines desu. If I would pick nurgle it will be a pure-daemons army

>>54101352
fuck off

>>54101462
K thanks. I'll have to phone :(

>>54100947
There's an oldtrooper head in the sprue. One head.

Does BattleScribe not yet support 8E FW?

>Three penitent engines
Or
>Rhino
>Cannoness, eviscerator, inferno pistol
>Priest, eviscerator, inferno pistol
>Mistress of repentance
>6 repentia

>>54101519
okay comrade, good to see the gulags are so fresh today!

>>54101541
only some of it.

>>54101557
How do you enable it? Haven't used BattleScribe in awhile

>>54101555
fuck off

>>54101541
it doesn't have the new Imperial Guard book yet, so no titans or kreig yet.

>>54100981
Waiting for the individual boxes so I can buy what I want without all the shit I don't... so I'm still waiting for Gravis Capt. on his own.

>>54101548
Three penitent engines my man. They ruin things

>>54101569
Is it ever advisable to run a spearhead detachment with something like a canoness and 3/1/1 or 2/1/1 engines?

>>54101568
Get yourself on ebay lad; I got a Gravis Capt for 4.99. I've got 0 interest in any of the other Primaris units.

>>54101640
Good call, I'll have a look. Figured they'd be more expensive than that.

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Say hi to your new meta overlords.

>>54101643
Because I love you Anon

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warhammer-40K-Dark-Imperium-Primaris-Space-Marine-Captain-in-Gravis-Armour-/162573211569?hash=item25da1e57b1:g:~X4AAOSwnK9ZQrs~

>>54101646
How many Earthshaker can they take? Also anybody else find the new idea of artillery bringing down aircraft wonderful and euphoric?

>>54101646
Yes I own three Hydra, why?

Anyone ever get a Fire Raptor commissioned?

How much does it cost?

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>>54100750

>>54101660
>>54101670
Guardfags plz go
REEEEEEEEE

>>54101690
>inquisition logo
i miss these guys

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>>54101690

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>£22.50

>>54101709
>Slowpoke.jpeg

>>54101646
Say hi to my Icarus Arrays bitch

>>54101652
Cheers, pal. I'll take a look

>>54101725
Dead turn 1.

Is funny that people think they can counter this by taking certain units.You cant. They will die turn 1 and if your army is 100% antiair it will lose missions and against other armies. But ravenspam doesnt.

>>54101766
Lmao, keep thinking that fella.

>>54101766
Harker Hydras are a perfect counter.

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Threadly reminder:
Supercharge your plasma, roll a 1 to hit, roll to wound, opponent rolls to save, opponent allocates wounds, now slay your shooter from the plasma overload.

>>54101127
its likely.
DV was the same except for some of the chaos cultists and one chaos character

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>Want to make a fun army list just for kicks
>Instant regret when having to shuffle around for every shitty micro weapon for every unit


I don't mind doing armylists normally but all these little things you have to buy is really starting to grind my gears.

Is there an alternetive to the based list builder yet?

>>54101646

DE flyers are better

>>54101782
?

>>54101782
?

So tsons in an escalation league seen 1 list of Ahriman and 2 squads to start but what are some of the decent options that can retain the legion rule if codexes drop before end of league. LGS is using power levels at slow grow of 10 or 20 per increment.

Kinda think daemon summon till Magnus fits might work but smite spam won't always handle high wound models

Thoughts /tg/

>>54101646
Oh hey, it's WAAC tourney fags being the cancer on the game, again.

>>54101810
They are more fragile, shoot less and most importantly, they arent transports.

They are not better.

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>>54101646
Lol no.
Hemlocks kill you too quick faggot.

>>54101807
>all these little things you have to buy is really starting to grind my gears
No no no Anon. If you don't like to fuck with 1200 of weapon options then you are not a true 40k player and you should play x-wing. An anon said me this so it must be true

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>>54101646
>Roll Relic
>That army instant loses

>>54101646
dies to conscripts

>>54100750
>Oldtroopers are Besttroopers
You misspelled Kasrkin.

>>54101812
>>54101816
Is this the new dumb shit in these threads, people incredibly misinterpreting rules?
Fuck am I saying, it's a /tg/ autist thing.

>>54101840
>Roll Relic
>>That army instant loses
How?
Wouldn't he turn 1 all his flyers around the objective and land so you cant pick it up?

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Post cute models

>>54101817

Rhinos for your marines
Sorcerers
Deepstriking scarabs
Magnus
Hellbrutes

>>54101866
it's mostly assmad people who play irrelevant games and are angry because all their friends are going back to 40k now
they're trying to rustle our jimmies by pointing out places where the rules could be hilariously misinterpreted if you're literally a retarded person
they ran out of good b8, so now we have weak shit like >>54101782

>>54101879
Doesnt even need to land. Just go on relic and opponent cant come within 1" of their bases (nor the models if opponents are over infantry sized).

>>54101891
I am the retarded first question mark, feed me with a spoon

What is the misinterpretation?

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>>54101880

>>54101861
Can't they both be equally better than Scions?

>>54101891
But that how it works right? I mean, it says on some multishot plasmaweapons that the self-casualty from the plasma comes after you have resolved all your shots.

What trolling and/or retardation I'm missing here?

>>54101899
>>54101915
a 1 is always a miss, so it's irrelevant

>>54101899
That you roll a 1 to hit, triggering overheat, but still roll to wound, save, etc.
It depends on the idea that the weapon fires a single shot, rather than d6, and overheat being resolved at the end of the d6 shots.

>>54101133
so what do u do with the tech priests? follow the dreads?

>>54101920
Well, yes. I just interpreted the troll that one of your shots is 1 but there are also some hits. So it works just like it supposed to.

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>>54101880

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>mfw we get legion rules back and Word Bearers are still the objective worst

What's worse is I'm so conditioned to being shat on by GW I can't even think of an armywide rule that'd be effective AND fluffy for them.

>>54101057

I'm gonna slaughter baby blue loyalist corpse-worshippers from now till September like it's my job.

>>54101937
Roll 4 dice drop the lowest for summoning
add +x to summoning roll for each Character
suffer a single mortal wound for summoning perils

etc...

But yes anon, WB are daemon summoners legion

>>54101057
Considering the other FoK post says Space Marines specifically get bonus points on week 2, I think it's fair to say this thing is a forgone conclusion.

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>>54101807
Well Battlescribe does strange things with detachment that have multiple factions. This is a single Vanguard but with multiple Imperium factions. Resulting in this mess.

+++ Super Church Friends (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [57 PL, 996pts] +++

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Ministorum) [37 PL, 694pts] ++

+ HQ +

Celestine [14 PL, 250pts]: Celestine, 2x Geminae Superia

+ Elites +

Arco-Flagellants [4 PL, 75pts]: 5x Arco Flagellant

Death Cult Assassins [3 PL, 85pts]: 5x Death Cult Assassins

Ministorum Priest [3 PL, 39pts]: Bolt pistol, Power maul

Ministorum Priest [3 PL, 39pts]: Bolt pistol, Power maul

+ Dedicated Transport +

Immolator [5 PL, 103pts]: Immolation Flamer

Immolator [5 PL, 103pts]: Immolation Flamer

++ Vanguard Detachment (Imperium - Inquisition) [10 PL, 140pts] ++

+ Elites +

Acolytes [5 PL, 70pts]
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul

Acolytes [5 PL, 70pts]
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul
Acolyte: Needle Pistol, Power maul

++ Vanguard Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [10 PL, 162pts] ++

+ Flyer +

Valkyries [10 PL, 162pts]
Valkyrie: 2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Multi-laser

>>54101782
Heavy D6.
I roll a D6 and get 2 shots worth.
I roll 2D6 to hit and get a 1 and a 6.
I roll 1D6 to wound and get a 2 against your T4.
You roll your save and get a 1.
You allocate 2 wounds to your unit.
I slay my plasma shooter.

>>54101838
I'm still baffled by the fact that you have to buy the claws for the Heldrake.

Fucking why? What other unit can over use it? It should be 0 and included in the price like most unique weapons.

I don't wanna cheat but at some point I will foget to add some weapon cost somewhere and someone is going to get assblasted by it.

>>54101344

Grandfather Nurgle loves you! Return the favor with victory in his name!

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What colour should Necrons be painted
It seems so simple and yet I can't think of a nice scheme

>>54102004
Blaugrau, silver, and black all look nice

>>54102004
I've seen some red/gold schemes which look pretty sweet, but then again I'm a sucker for those two colours together.

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>>54102004
I'm not a great fan of green Crons so I will say blue

>>54102016
Doesn't black kill the details? When I only apply the primer it looks ok, but no matter how much I thin the paint it looks like it kills details.

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Is Khorne ok with torture? Like, I know anything to do with physical sensation is in Slaanesh's domain, but would Khorne look down on one of his followers giving him his blood slowly and steadily, rather than all at once? He still gets his blood either way.

How balanced is the game now? Does the meta still gravitate towards a few OP builds?

>>54102030
Well you could do what I do and really under-apply the black so it doesn't soak up details. The only side effect is the paint will rub off in some places but then you just say they're "weathered".

It's a balancing act between shitty and cool

>>54102048

> hahahahahahaha

40k couldn't get balance with years of slow refinement on the same rules. Why would they suddenly achieve it when they rip up and reboot it from square one?

>>54102004
Bronzed and red/green

>>54102047
I imagine he'd probably look at it dismissivly, as its no real testament to your abilities as a warrior as your victim can't fight back. Now, if you could somehow torture -and- fight someone at the time time, you'd be demonstrating skill.

>>54101880
I love Orks, the new sculpts look brilliant, the only thing that stops me collecting them is the stupid poses the old Ork infantry minis have.

Gorilla pose with their arse sticking out is dumb.

What weapons should I give Vulkan He'stan's escort squad?
It's going to be a five man tactical squad riding in a twin assault cannon Razorback with him, and I'm thinking of giving the sergeant either a combi-melta or a combi-flamer, and the special weapon marine either a regular melta gun or a multi-melta.

But, I don't really know about the usefulness of the flamers compared to the melta, considering the lack of reliability in how many targets you can spray down with fire being reliant on a dice roll, up to a maximum of six, whereas you can just hit hard and fast with melta, and that Razorback behind the squad already gets to shoot twelve shots of S6, AP -1 assault cannon shots and two (four if it's closer than 12") bolter shots, which should actually be able to eat up infantry well enough. Plus Vulkan is already packing his Gauntlet of the Forge.
Is it worth the extra points to take a multi-melta over a regular melta-gun? They have the same stats other than range and the multi-melta is heavy rather than assault? This would mean less accuracy after moving, but I could reach the half range to take the higher of two rolls easier with the bigger gun, and Vulkan gives rerolls to hit with melta anyway.

I was thinking for my other two marine squads, who won't be following Vulkan around, they'd have regular meltagun and a combi-flamer on the sergeant, because of the ability to shoot the flamer and bolter part at the same time that would be a D6 guaranteed hits, plus two more bolter shots at BS 4+, but with Vulkan given rerolls on flamer and melta attacks, giving the sergeant a melta as well seems fun.
Does the reroll to hit that Vulkan gives apply to the bolter part of a combi-melta or combi-flamer as well? Being able to get out of Razorback then shoot two bolter shots and a melta shot at BS4+, but rerolling to hit and wound sounds really fun.

>>54100750
People use this image all the time but no one plays Inquisition. (Or Inquisitorial Stormtroopers.) :c

>>54102079
Old Khorne is not new Khorne.
He wants blood now, not warriors
>>54102047
Hard to say, he wants blood so he'll get his blood
You have me thinking of a perpetual bleed machine where a guy is cut over a funnel that loops into an iv to keep him alive

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>>54102080
they really arent as bad as most people think, and if they do bother you that much get AoS Orks/ Savage Orks

>>54102063
Because people grow wiser.

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>>54102080
Same here. I really like greenskinz machines but I can't stand the gorilla-butts. I wish they would be updated to AoS-tier orruk™ models but I have mixed feelings about ork players reaction. The NuMarines implementation was pretty painless but on the other hand people are used to react in retarded ways without a reason

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>>54102047
Khorne wants as much blood as quickly as possible. His thing is extreme violence and death in quantity, it'd definately be more Slaanesh to torture someone, even if it was bloody torture.

For example, ripping someone's arms off in combat then running off to do it to thirty other people would please Khorne, slicing them off with great care and precision to keep the individual subject alive for the future would be more Slaanesh's speed, Khorne would just see it as a waste of time you should be spending collecting more skulls for his throne.

How is rowboat not retardedly undercosted?

>>54102136
>>54102080
Problem with this is that they would increase the prices for them, again, meaning the horde army becomes even worse to collect

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>>54102109
>He wants blood now, not warriors.
Nope. Pic related is the 8th edition rulebook's description of him.

>>54102004
Bronze with blue rust.

>>54102115
I know, it's just my pose-autism but it genuinely ruins the models for me. The AoS sculpts are perfect but require too much in the way of conversion for the army it'd want to build, Blood Axes because they're either too heavily armoured or too under-clothed.

>>54102136
I don't think new Ork boy sculptswould even need NuMarines-tier releases, at the end of the day that was just to sell marines to people who already had marines i.e. everyone. Orks aren't that common an army compared to muhreens.

>>54102143
Damn I remember that comic but cant remember its name! Can you help me out anon?

>>54102148
Fucking GW needs to get a grip. They already price things based on how many you need to play rather than how much they cost to manufacture, but that only seems to apply for increasing price, they never go 'Oh, this is a horde army, we'll sell them in boxes of 20 for the same price as a 10 marine tactical box to offset that'.

>tfw oldfag enough to remember big guard boxes

>>54102048
Now that they've introduced an annual update system I think they're probably going to for a cyclical imbalance system. Not sure how they intend to decide what to buff/nerf each year but it'll probably involve keeping an eye on tournament play and social media feedback

>>54102186
Uber.

>http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Uber

>>54102048
It's better than it has been in a long time, and they're going to continue tweaking things to achieve better balance.

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>>54102179
Blood Axe speciality is stealthy, camoflauging. The near naked boyz would be perfect for this....

>>54102203
You dont gotta tell me this, shits insane
>see fucking Mek Gunz

>>54102204
>it'll probably involve keeping an eye on tournament play and social media feedback

And whatever army is currently getting new minis they want to sell.

>>54102212
Today anon wasnt a complete bunch of sticks.

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>>54102115
This is just a warboss in mega armor.

>>54102222
yeah that too

>>54102136
>I wish they would be updated to AoS-tier orruk™ models
I'd bet on this happening in the not-too-distant future.

>>54101344
Nurgle is honestly pretty boring to play, but very fun to paint (+ convert the excellent AoS blight kings into whatever you need). The other 2 will be more enjoyable on the table

>>54102109
>now

There's exactly one piece of text I've ever seen that says Khorne gives two shits about anything other than killing, and that's 2nd edition Epic Renegades book. Every other source says that he just cares about bloodshed.

>>54100750
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH1mMuKRX_0&ab_channel=Freebooter%E2%80%99sNetwork

>>54102219
>not just spamming kannons

>>54102233
Once I get my Feral Orks side of my army going that's exactly what im doing with this model. Although it'll probably be the Mawcrusha one

>>54102256
>feral
Snakebites are a thing.

>>54102255
I just tell my opponent what they are before we start, I dont actually use them as what they're modeled after, got 5 Big Gunz/Mek Gunz out of that 1 Mek Gun kit

>>54102249
Didn't watch more than 10 seconds of the video; but I gotta say that woman is a semen demon.

>>54101154
Its true tho

>>54102295
I cannot bear the half-bald, especially the one she is showing in the thumbnails.

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>>54102249
>Entire video on Great Crusade
>Only mention of Perturabo's contribution is that no one likes him

Typical.

>>54102304
I like her pixie nose, I want to tongue it

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>>54102268
Im going a step below Snakebites, they'll probably be led by a Snakebite Boss and his Nob entourage but think "literally never seen a gun before Orks".

Also these feral Orks Weirdboy leader, realizing he couldnt contend with these technologically advanced off world Orks resigns himself to the background of the Waaagh, keeping only a core of faithful boyz, there he works to finish what he started....

>>54100912
why are NZers so damn stupid ?
I live in motherfucking Invercargill and get my 40k on fucking wayland
just take a fucking PO box in manchester or brighton and stfu.
You deserve paying that much if you are that stupid

>>54102249
k

>>54100761
200 conscripts

>>54102063
>40k couldn't get balance with years of slow refinement on the same rules
Because now its actually TO that make rules, not gw

>>54102249
I want to discuss 40k with her
No, really. She seems to be a nice interlocutor

>>54100761
BIG GUNS THAT GO BOOM
BASILISK
MANTICORE
WYVERN
ALL BABYSAT BY SGT HARKER

>>54100761
what this guy said: >>54100994

Show us what you're running

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>>54100761
Spam plasma scions to kill transports. Obliterate everything else with artillery. Crons are short-ranged.

Comments on my nids list?

>Spearhead Detachment (812)
Old One Eye (140)
Stone Crusher Carnifex Brood - 2x Stone Crusher Carnifex - Thresher Scythe, Wrecker Claw & Bio-flail (224)]
Stone Crusher Carnifex Brood - 2x Stone Crusher Carnifex - Thresher Scythe, Wrecker Claw & Bio-flail (224)]
Stone Crusher Carnifex Brood - 2x Stone Crusher Carnifex - Thresher Scythe, Wrecker Claw & Bio-flail (224)]

>Outrider Detachment (279)
Malanthropes - 2x Malanthrope (180)
Sky-slasher Swarms - 3x swarms (33)
Sky-slasher Swarms - 3x swarms (33)
Sky-slasher Swarms - 3x swarms (33)

Battalion Detachment (900)
Magus - Might From Beyond (73)
Primus (76)
Primus (76)
Acolyte Hybrids - 19x Hybrid, Acolyte Leader - Bonesword, Cult icon (225)
Acolyte Hybrids - 19x Hybrid, Acolyte Leader - Bonesword, Cult icon (225)
Acolyte Hybrids - 19x Hybrid, Acolyte Leader - Bonesword, Cult icon (225)

>>54101057
>Starting the campaign at the ass end of summer when the 40k crowd is going back to school

great idea

>>54101126
>ork players are proper orky

>>54101437
Somehow swap out a unit of Kommandos for a Painboy on a bike?
Maybe drop a 1 kannon off of each unit in heavy support.

>>54101202
>power level
Look at this shitter and laugh

>>54101126
no, they know orks will sell on their own merits and dont need help, where as tau only sell because of weeaboos and waacfags

Guys do deepstrike / deploy from orbit abilities count as the unit having moved that turn in regards to its shootan?

>>54101153
itll probably be 30 burgerbux per guy, same as every other marine character

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>>54102102
Anyone at all?

>>54102538
Yes.

>>54101126
>Ork players are just shitty customers
If FW had ever made good rules for their Ork models maybe we would be more enticed to buy them. Hell im considering buying a couple Squiggoths and a Gargantuan Squiggoth because for the first time since they were released they arent meme units

>>54102004
Cant beat silver and dark green, but Trazyn style Light Blue and gold looks nice.

>>54102557
Ta.

>>54101057
Ah yes, "chaos". Well, disregarding this obvious fabrication, the Tau will be taking advantage of the civil war in the Imperium to claim some of its territory.

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>>54102535
There is literally nothing wrong with being a weeb.

>>54102574
decapitate yourself, weeb

Should I prime the Dark Imperium death guard black or white?

>>54102574
Literally kill yourself

>>54102586
White.

>>54102586
are you painting them dark colors or light colors?

>>54102584
*it was a drone*
*jetpacks behind you*
For the greater good.
*fires*

>>54102604
I smiled.

>>54102601
I'm gonna basecoat it with dg green, then do as duncan showed in his video.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9biB9oO5GXs
>Orkanauts are now actually terrifying
I knew I bought these paper weights as an investment

>>54102574
>Game is a mini-game to decapitate Mami
Would Waaagh/10

>>54102586
BLACK
AS THE SMEARS THEY WILL BE UNDER THE WEIGHT OF OUR MIGHTY EARTHSHAKERS

Who wins?
Max size Boyz kitted out for max choppy+Ghazzy
++OR++
A maxed out Crusader squad (with Sword Brother) and THE FUCKING High Marshal
?

I'm away from my books right now, otherwise I'd hammer it out myself.

>>54102574
Show the inferious races their inability to fathom the purest form of beauty right in their ugly faces.

>>54102641
Depends on who charged. I'd give it to Boyz and Ghaz though

>>54101049
>Getting perfect balance is impossible so we aren't going to try getting better balance
That thought process ends in 7e Scatterbike Ynnari lists.

>>54101294
Paint Thicker Than Ma Skull

>>54102641
who gets the charge? my bet is on the boyz though

>>54102604
*unsheat knife*
nothin personel, kiddo
*stabs*

>>54102574
Yes there is. There isn't anything wrong with liking japanese culture, but once you drink the kool-aid and start only liking it, increasingly isolating yourself from anything not japanese, you become one of the most pathetic creatures there is. You're like a beta orbiter to an entire nation, a xenophobic nation that wants nothing to do with you.

Luckily there are tests, and preventative measures you can take.

1. Do you feel triggered when someone discusses Avatar the Last Airbender on a discussion forum dedicated to Anime?

2. Do you insert anime into everything, no matter how appropriate?

3. Have you planned out how you're going to get a job in a field you have no qualifications for and then apply for permanent residency in japan?

4. Do you have a "waifu?"

5. Are you unemployed, but still somehow able to spend $2000.00 or more dollars per year on Japanese merchandise?

6. Do you think NGE was a good show?

If you answered yes to any of these questions, you are a weeb, and you need to seek professional help.

>>54102604
roll to hit, faggot.

>>54102471
>The battle begins on July the 29th
>end of summer, going back to school
What?

>>54101931
Cheap HQs for a Battalion that can hover around and either repair vehicles or help the Tacticals. One can sit back and fire its Conversion beam repairing the Predator if needs be and the one with the Servo Arm can be closer to the front lines.

>>54102574
>Not editing it so it has blue skin

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>>54101646
So does that mean the new superheavy going forward is Mastodons? Makes your whole crew immune to gunfire while killing enemy planes across the map.

>>54102750
dice+1d6

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>>54102574

>>54102774
in the e-mail field

>>54102752
where the fuck do you live?

School starts the first or second week of august here

Business idea: similarly to ogryn being ogres in space, what if the imperium had giants in space? They could carry around a cannon or one of those knight chainsaws.

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Quick question -

Haven't played since 5th.

With nu-40K could I potentially make the Witchhunters army of my dreams?

I've always been obsessed with the old Witchhunters art and would love to go conversion crazy to make an army like pic related.

Is this possible now? I heard Inquisitors got nerfed hard

>>54102787
Probably somewhere it's hot, like Florida

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what could I use as a Snakebite Orkanaut stand in?

>>54102787
Starts in at the beginning of September in the UK

Are boxnaughts and Venerables still relevant or valuable this edition? Are they going to get assfucked by the new big boy dread?

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>triggered by anime on a nepalese photography forum

>>54102794
Very possible. Acolytes are pretty good, and pair well with sisters of battle.

>>54102787
The UK, where GW is based.

>>54102794
Inquisitorial Acolytes are god tier though

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>>54102794
yes

inquisitorial henchmen got pretty much axed though

>>54102803
Aleguzzler Gargant covered in cannons and shit

>>54102765
I dont understand the void shield rule

Does it mean you always just have a 2+ save, even against mortals?

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>>54102745

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>>54102817

You have given me hope I haven't had for several editions, anon.

Are Coteaz and Celestine decent too?

>>54102815
>Posting anime on a Tibetan woodcarving forum

>>54102843
Celestine is amazing. I can't speak much for coteaz, but I'm sure you could make an army work with him.

>>54102803
That massive spider from fantasy. Everything's better with spiders.

Going to start painting on Monday. Any tips for Death Guard or their poxwalkers?

Since there are no existing models for the Spined Chaos Beast and its rules are dope, what is the best proxy?

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>54102737
>drone

>>54102837
your void shield save is in the damage box in the top right hand corner. It varies based on you remaining wounds

>>54101437
having a lot of CPs is nice, but id rather go outride detachment and actually have a list that smashes gits all day

with a little rearrangin you get something like:

outrider detachment:
zagstruck/weirdboy (warpath)
weirdboy (jump)
2x30 shootas
2x15 kommandos
3x30 stormboyz
2x5 kannonz

so much better imho
the biggest pain is your 6x10 shoota tax thats pretty much useless so Id definitely try to change at least that out

>>54102837
Yes, that is exactly what it means. Killing it is HaF.

>>54102869
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-FI/Colossal-Squig?_requestid=22202077

>>54102857
>Forgot the spider existed
You're my nigga anon

Rolled 5, 6, 5, 4 = 20 (4d6)

>>54102750
2+ bs, fusion blaster.

What are some cool Nurgle warband schemes that aren't the purge?

Anyone know what the Fly lords or Lords of decay look like? also the bleak brotherhood are they Nurgle?

>>54102900
the cleaved

>>54101699
>>54101690
these models were so much better than scions™

>>54101782
in the AM Forge World book, plasma pistols do 3 dmg on overcharge

wtf

>>54101690
Just checked how much these are going for on ebay.

Needless to say, I hope GW start selling them on their online store.

>>54102937
Kek.

>>54102765
Is there anything that buffs void shield saves, or is that 7+ always impossible?

>>54102960
Now which models can take 2 plasma pistols in the FW book?

>>54102900
I think the Glooming Lord's from the Death Guard booklet look amazing. They have black armor with bright green trim and their lore is they're all really grumpy.

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>>54102882
>having a lot of CPs is nice

>>54102574
could have at least made her a cute tau girl
doing it this way is just lazy and stupid

Does battlescribe include the p2w forgeworld shit I want to add to my army?

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What was more fun to play last edition, Imperial Fists or Iron Hands? Can't decide which one for my first army. Going to be going Primaris only.

>>54102803
a big squiggoth YA GITLET

>>54103012
yes

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>>54103022
But Boss I'z wuz gunna use da Squiggoth as da Squiggoth

>>54103015
>what was more fun, some more bolter hits or an impossible hard to kill chapter master and fnp accross the board

>>54101660
The earthshaker is literally just modelled a ww2 anti aircraft gun

Hey guys, I want to start a lovecraftian tyranid army. Doesn't have to be super competitive, I just want to pay slight homage to the cthulhu mythos, is all.
Genestealer cult will of course be a nod to the lovely people down in innsmouth. A mawloc I though could make for a fine dhole reference.

Any thoughts on additional units? I do want to include zoanthropes since they are my favorite unit designwise.

>>54103015
>iron hands
>fun
7th ruined their reputation

>>54103057
First army, completely new to the hobby so i really can't tell, champ

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>>54103001
>cute
>tau

>>54101807
That's what power levels are for, ignore the lone salty autist that shots himself with rage at the thought of other people having non-sanctioned by him fun.

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>>54103078
They can be in the right style :3

>>54103064

Cthulhu Hive Tyrant!

http://www.coolminiornot.com/199857

>>54103078
some dudes on here would tell you that a tentacle beast is cute so im just taking that into account

>>54103051
USE A SQUIG DEN, A REAL BIG WUN

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Colossal-Squig

like dis wun, BUT EVEN BIGGA

>>54103068
Whys that?

>>54103135
tourneyfags taking advantage of fnp, relics and iwnd. brainless shits

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>>54103100
Maybe water caste tau.

Is there any transport that can hold a Wraithseer?