Whats worse being a chaos worshiper or being a xeno?

>>54096404
being the retard that reposts this thread every night

>>54096404
Being a loyalist lapdog of the False Emperor.

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>>54096404
A Chaos worshipping Xeno

>>54096404
Chaos Worshipper

t. Raving Word Bearer chaosfag

Seriously, xenos cant help that they're shit. Chaos worshippers on the other hand traded their humanity for power

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>>54096404
BEIN' A GROT

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>>54096404
Chaos worshiper of course.

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>>54096404
being a Xeno is fine as long as you keep to yourself and stay away from Imperium territory. Unless your a filthy bowlegged space communist weaboo in which case you deserve exterminatus.

>>54096404
I'm new to 40k. Are there renegade or even Chaos marines that attempt to fight for the Imperium in some way?

>>54096818
they wouldn't be chaos/renegades if they wanted to fight for the Imperium in the first place. If you meant indirectly Renegades probably get into fights with some of the Imperiums enemies while Chaos mainly limit themselves to fighting Eldar and Humans because Tau have breadcrumbs for souls and Tyranids would avoid fighting Chaos all together because daemons don't have biomass to consume. It has happened before though, just not that common.

>>54096818
There are those that fall to Chaos attempting to do what they think will help the Imperium. There are even some Chaos worshipers so fucked in the head that they think they're still loyal and that they're not influenced by Chaos at all.

>>54096818
Dark Angels, Fallen, Knights of Blood.

>>54097120
If Dark Angels can be considered renegade Space Wolves must be extra fucking heretical

>>54097246
Dangles fuck over imperials more by simply being stupidly secretive.

>>54096404
A chaos worshiper.

A xeno is filthy scum and beneath a human, but chaos is heretical, and as we all know heresy is the worst crime you could commit in the Imperium. Though allying yourself with aliens, helping aliens, speaking to an alien (unless you yell "Die xeno filth!" before killing it), are all heretical actions, but aliens themselves aren't heretics they're just seen as vultures and parasites of the galaxy by the Imperium. Chaos however is viewed as the greatest abomination and a cancer to the entire galaxy.

>>54096818
look up Soul Drinkers on lexicanum.

they are excommunicate traitoris that hate the imperium for being an orwellian nightmare regime, but hate the forces of chaos even more.

>>54096818
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Relictors

>>54096490
this

>>54097991
>We are the Soul Drinkers.
>We stand for love and justice.

>>54097991
>they are excommunicate traitoris that hate the imperium for being an orwellian nightmare regime

Like hell!

They're excommunicate traitoris because they attacked a Mechanicum expeditionary fleet over a piece of Archaeotech that they believed once belong to Dorne, thus making it theirs (even though they're only IF successors)

They then fell in with a cult of Tzeentch, started to mutate, killed all the traditionalists (who were mostly younger, less senior marines) who said "whoa what the fuck", and then realized they might be the baddies when their leader turned into a Spider Centaur and a Daemon of Tzeentch showed up and said "Sup lmao I can't believe you bought that" so they turned on it and killed it but by then the damage was done.

At that point they realized they had done fucked and convinced themselves they were still gonna fight for the People of the Imperium while being hunted, all the while more and more of them fell to various forms of Chaos.

The Soul Drinkers are the epitome of dindu's, and the idea they fought against imperial oppression is a meme. They fell because of their pride and arrogance and then rationalized it away later and the book all but spells it out for you.

>>54096404
Being the rejected offspring of Tzeentch and Slaanesh and getting thrown into Tzeentch's magical well, only to end up in fucking Eberron of all places.

Being a daemon or an AI

>>54096767
Found the angry fuccboi who got rejected by a Tau girl.

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>>54096494
Basically this. Of course it differs depending on who they're fighting, but the Imperium generally views chaos worship as a bigger slight than being a xeno. One is done out of choice, and one is just how you're born. Betrayal is far worse than birthright. Also, chaos has fucked the Imperium up a lot more than xenos has.

kill a traitor before an enemy

>>54096404
Xeno.

Chaos worshippers, while heretical and deserving of extermination, are still humans. Xenos, being inhuman abominations, are thus objectively worse than heretical humans.

>>54097332
Has there been any fluff written about the Dangle's reactions to Cypher and the Fallen making it to Terra? I'd imagine they must be shitting themselves pretty hard, and the Lion might awake soon

It's Xenos, not Xeno, you god damn mouthbreathers. Xenos is the singular.

>>54096404
Traitors are always worse than normal enemies
t. chaosfag

>>54103892
That would imply that aliens are people.

>>54103950
Xenos literally means alien you idiot.
Next you'll say "I was only pretending to be retarded"

>>54103984
Xenos, Xeno, they might as well be one abominable entity with how abhorrent they are.

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>>54096474
Best post.

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>>54096474
True!

>>54096404
Being an imperial meme faggot.

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>>54096404
Depends. I'd say chaos is worse. Chaos messes with brains and souls and creepy as fuck. Though xenos have genestealers and hrud and... Fuck. That's actually a difficult question.

>>54101884
all tau girls reject love that was not issued by high command

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IMAGINE SOME HAM PLANET TAKES A GIANT SHIT ON YOUR HOUSE

AND THE FLIES CLUSTER AROUND THE SHIT, SPREADING DISEASE AND FILTH TO ALL OF YOUR STUFF WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

AND ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS START MARCHING IN, ONE BY ONE SPRAYING LIQUID FECES ALL OVER YOUR LILY WHITE TILES

AND YOU SPEND TWO HUNDRED GODDAMN YEARS TRYING TO GET IT OFF OF YOUR STUFF, DISINFECTING YOUR SOFA AND FLOORS, AND YOU FINALLY MANAGE TO GET THE MESS CONFINED TO ONE CORNER OF ONE ROOM

YOUR DAD HANDS YOU A DUSTBIN TO FINALLY GET RID OF THE SHIT FOR GOOD

NOW IMAGINE YOUR FRIEND BREAKS THE DUSTBIN, PUSHES YOUR FACE INTO THAT PILE OF SHIT AND STARTS SMEARING IT ON YOUR WALLS, YELLING "FUCK YOU, DAD"

NOT ONLY IS YOUR HOUSE UNCLEAN, BUT IT WILL BE FOREVER UNCLEAN NOW

WHICH IS WORSE?

THE ANSWER IS BOTH

BOTH ARE WORSE

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>>54104163
Hey Pertu. How did you like Damantin?

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>>54096404
Being a frogposter on a Mongolian cacepainting chatroom

>>54096404
It depends.I will list them from worst to least bad.

Tyranids
Slaught
Dark Eldar
Ork
Chaos
Tau
Enormous gap
Necrons
Eldar
Jokaero

>>54097246
Space Wolves are loyal and have been the spearhead of numerous Imperial actions, Dork Angels are team killing heretics but its to be expected because they are the fist legion anc the Emperor didnt work out all the kinks until the 5th legion

>>54103984
Stop defending the xeno you fucking traitor

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Why is Rowboat so against using gene seed from the missing and traitor legions despite all of the Dark Angels and a large part of his legion going chaos/traitor over the years?

>>54104266
ayy

>>54104789
I'm trying to defend the sanctity of low gothic you degenerate heretic

>>54097991
>le edgy radical centrists

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>>54096404
Being Lorgar

>>54102343
what if your a xeno that created a deadly chaos god?

>>54097094
This is blatantly untrue. Chapters in the past have gotten fucked into being branded as Renegades by the Inquisition.

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>>54104637
>Orks
>worse then Tau, Eldar, and Chaos
Ha! Datz a funny un humie.

'eryone knowz Orkz iz da best!

It goes:
>Da boyz
>Humies
>Jokaero (Dey'd be great Mekboyz if dey could actually focus on wot we told em ta build!)
>Dem chrome skelly gitz
>Rak'gol
>Da bugeyes (ya humies call 'em 'Tyranids' or sumfing!)
>Da spiky gitz
>Chaos proppa'
>Dose Kroot guyz

>YUGE GAP

>Q'orl (da six-eyed bug gitz livin' da galaxy. Weird-lookin' bunch, but dey know dere dakka I 'ear...)
>All o' da whiny lil' panzees. ALL O' DEM.
>Da dakka-happy but cowardly as zog blueberries known as da Tau
>Dose Hrud boyz
>Da zog's a Slaugth?

>>54096404
Willfully becoming a traitor's worse than being born a filthy alien.

>>54104870
id give her my chapters gene seed if you know what i mean

>>54104870
>large part of his legion going chaos/traitor over the years?
???

>>54107046
>what if your a xeno that created a deadly chaos god?
Which chaos god?
Because since GW's retconned of Chaos' Gods to be less 'human-focused' (ol' Blood & Skulls, Papa Nurgle and Mr. Just-As-Planned! origins are no longer born because of events in human history, all three of them merely gained sentience before M2 ended), all of the Chaos Gods were 'created' by a collection of xenos races, with Slaanesh being the only one specifically stated to be created because of Eldar fucking around too much.

>Khorne probably owes most of his existence/power to the galaxy's 'we live for WAR!' xenos race, the Krorks/Orks

>These posts saying turning to Chaos is worse because it's a choice

That's true, sometimes.

Sometimes a member of the Imperium turns to Chaos because they want the power to impose their will on others and think they can outsmart the Chaos gods and avoid paying for it. Sometimes they turn to Chaos because they honestly believe in the propaganda they've been fed and don't understand how it actually works. There's a whole lot of people like that, people who willingly align themselves with Chaos.

But it's important to keep in mind that a significant portion of those aligned with Chaos didn't choose to be a part of it--or, if they did, that decision was made under considerable duress.

See, 40k is a setting where evil is real. Every single day, there are literal extra-dimensional chaos daemons capable of entering your mind and body swirling around you. There are massive, impersonal forces at work with the sole goal of corrupting your fucking brain--and we're not talking through propaganda and pamphlets, but through a hostile takeover of your personality. There are subtle but constant wars for the contents of your head, and they don't ever stop. There's a reason why Imperial propaganda focuses on repeating litanies and quieting the brain--it's so you don't hear the fucking voices whispering to you, because the voices are *real*, and they're god damn pure evil.

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Like, let's say you're a Guardsman. Picked up off some agriworld. You're going through basic training before leaving the planet, only a few dozen guys have died so far. You feel good. But your direct superior is a fucking dick. At first it didn't both you so much--it's his job, after all--but it's starting to get to you. How he always seems to single you out. How he constantly gives you the worst duties. You start to imagine what it would be like to just kill him. How easy it would be. There's a part of you thinking,

>"But what would I do after that? Isn't that wrong? Wouldn't I get in trouble?"

But that part gets easier and easier to ignore every day, until it happens. You're at a live fire exercise, and he turns towards you with malice written on his face. He hasn't even opened his mouth before you do it. It doesn't even really feel like "you" doing it, like it was someone else using your body for just a moment. But then it's done, and he's dead, and the lasgun's in your hands with smoke trailing from the tip. And you run before someone decides to shoot you.

Where do you go? You'll be shot on site by just about anyone that finds you. Maybe you try to make it to a space port. Maybe you try to disappear into a nearby city. But here's the problem: You're cut off now. There's no one drilling imperial litanies into your head. There's not even any other loyal members of the Imperium to talk to. You're alone, and the voices aren't going away. And eventually that quiet little voice of reason is going to start believing them.

Chaos isn't always a choice. Hell, I'd say it probably isn't even *often* a choice. The members of Chaos aren't all heretics because they want to be. A significant number of them are victims of a universe that is literally trying to destroy them.

>>54104582
adding this to my hundreds-large folder of abbreviations for 4chan

Chaos. You're just a bunchbag, a toy, clay in the hands of those 4 Freaks. Seriously, you can devolve into some chaos spawn walking pile of shit, or being fucked in the afterlife forever

>>54107499
Huge amounts of Ultra successors have turned against the Imperium. Cawl even tells Rowboat but he refuses to listen

>>54096404
Chaos. Even most Xenos, as shitty as they are, know that Chaos is bad. Even the orks kill orks who start acting unorky.