Hour of Devastation reveals

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Basic lands are pretty good this set

>>54087390
>caring about basic lands
plebian get out

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>>54087415
Gotta appreciate em when you can

>jazz hands demon

>>54087413
I like this card

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>slightly shittier ammit eternal in red

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Rare footage of a decent red cantrip?

>>54087514
Inb4
>Sorcery

But it seems fairly decent as cantrip and as a pusher for say, boros exert decks, as it means that you're going to be getting *something* out of the all in exert turns, they can't just be chumped.

>>54087729
instant speed on a spell like that has no reason to exist...

>>54087849
At sorcery speed, it influences your opponent's blocking choices.

Instant speed could outmaneuver your opponent.

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>>54087390
the full art lands are shit tho... the "mountain" is a red plains, the plains is a yellowish greyish plains, the forest is a cloudy plains... only the swamp looks swampy.

>>54087514
not bad. instant speed could have added some extra spice but is not necessarily needed.

I play pauper and pic related is the MVP of this set, imo. 4 of them and 4 thermo-alchemists, in monoR burn or UR, are gonna be fun fun fun

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>>54087849
This one has even less reasons, yet it's an instant

>>54087381
So the curse existed before Bolas? Thats pretty interesting.

>>54087413
Hey that's pretty good.

>>54087940
maybe it's for teamplay?

>>54087965
2HG players play their turn simultaneously. The only advantage is being an EDH politics tool in some extreme edge cases.

>>54087906
you must be disperate for using that spell as a combat trick without the certainty of a lethal damage...

>>54087437
damn this is pretty bad

>>54087940
target creature =/= creatures

>>54087413
Seeing that card that lets you cast cards with cycling in your graveyard makes me want to make a cycling deck, but because that card exists and cycling is a set mechanic I already know Wizards went overboard on balancing it and it won't be competitive compared to the "whoops accidentally made the pushed mythic overpowered" decks.
Might make the deck anyways because I love graveyard recursion.

>>54087381
>No monogreen Legendary
C'mon

>>54088017
Instant speed would let you punish chump blocking

>>54087940
This is instant because "why not" is good design philosophy; maybe some day someone will just want to cantrip at instant speed or some incredibly stupid jank with making his opponent's creatures attack.

>>54087514
This isn't instant because >>54087849 is retarded and doesn't understand that trample with surprise is far better than trample without.

>>54087923
This makes me want to put her in a deck with Guttersnipe and that thing that spits out 1/1 elementals.

>>54087514
>Djeru looks like a bald woman
>Samut looks like a man with weird haircut

And Samut's chin. WTF was wizards thinking.

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>>54088105
She looks even more like a man in this one

>>54088103

Throw in Thermo-Alchemist as well.

>>54088063
Samut the ugly KANG planeswalker probably took that slot

>>54088105
WotC is run by SJWs

>>54088078
following this >>54088078 retarded instance every spell in magic should be an instant and every permanent should have flash "just because".

>>54088105
If I didn't think it was market testing inclusivity pandering bullshit like it is... I'd point out that women can be bald, muscular, masculine, ugly, have shitty hair, have resting bitch face, and generally not look like a pinup.

But Wizards doesn't have thoughts about making unique characters, they have business models and graphs and idiots.

>>54088359
I have a red of red vampires that is basically 1/3 mountains, 1/3 burn, and 1/3 vampires. Maybe I just resleeve the creatures when I want to ping someone to death.

>>54088280

It kind of amazes me that no matter how much Wizards has tried to push lifegain spells, they still haven't come up with a constructed playable one. Speaking of cards that do nothing but gain life of course, not Kitchen Finks.

What would it take? Would "G - Sorcery - Gain 12" be enough? Or is that still too low key?

>>54087437
Man, that's some olde timey bad rare creature design. Like, sub-Lord of the Pit bad.

>>54088561
At least LotP had good flavortext when it was put in Duel Decks.

>>54088512
>I'd point out that women can be bald, muscular, masculine, ugly, have shitty hair, have resting bitch face, and generally not look like a pinup.

They can, but why the hell would you put them on a collectible card? I wouldn't put myself on a card.

>>54088579
And trample, and not dying to graveyard hate...much inferior dance moves, tho.

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>>54088549
Where were you during best standard in years?

>>54088469

Quit being illiterate, I used an example in that very post saying why not everything can be made instant. For most cards there is a very good reason for why they shouldn't be instant: they couldn't be printed at the same cost (by Wizard's reckoning). But if the amount of uses for a card can be widened (instant versus sorcery, "target player" instead of "target opponent", etc.) without breaking it, then it should be. Someone, out of the millions of matches of Magic, will appreciate it.

>>54088709
them feels when you could play ramp, control and rdw in the same standard

>>54088581
So every character in Magic should be an attractive 20 something, or be inhuman enough to not be comparable?

>>54088549
I think it's more that the lifegain strategy doesn't work without a win condition. Cards that gain you life while making your opponent lose (Lightning Helix or Seeker of the Way) are attractive, but any spell that isn't outright broken lifegain (like your 12 for 1 example) are a missed opportunity to hurt your opponent's position. G for 12 life represents a creature that isn't dealing 3-5 damage a turn, absorbing your opponent's removal and resources, or blocking damage.

>>54088740
>>54088469

An illustration: Lightning bolt lets you bolt yourself or a creature you control, even if you rarely want to do that. This could have been restricted solely to opponents, but it was not because this incredibly minor upside wouldn't break the card if it remained at 1 mana. The card has been made more applicable and more interesting by allowing the rare cases where you want to bolt yourself.

>>54088549
G: 6 life & cantrip

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WHEN ARE WE GETTING FBLTHP PLANESWALKER?

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Look at this little shit-eater.

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My goal is to get into the MTG Hall of Fame. I have been tested to have a 133 IQ but never took card games that seriously before.

How difficult will it be for me to achieve my goal?

>>54088946
LOOK AT HIS CUTE LITTLE PAWS

>>54088946
I don't get the flavor here. So you kill a rat and somehow after it dies it eats a corpse in a graveyard?

>>54088549
problem is they can't push it into being a maindeck thing, once straight lifegain is good enough that it's just convenient to have it, too many decks just throw it in and aggro completely dies. Lifegain should be a fringe / sideboard card.
>>54088709
for example this card was good enough that in conjunction with siege rhino it killed mono red, which was decent prior to that(it was still played, but it got a lot worse)
>>54088917
this is an example of a clearly too good card, that's almost free life, no reason not to include and would make any kind of aggression absolutely shit.

>>54088962
how poor are you?

>>54087413
I wish it had more toughness so I could put it in my big butts edh deck.

>>54088985
probably they wanted it to exile upon entering, but it was "busted"

>>54088962

Magic takes zero skill, so you're basically participating in a lottery that takes 10 years and lots of money to qualify for.

>No Green Non-Eternalize Eternals
Bolas just HATES green, doesn't he?

>>54088962
Very, considering that to have any fame in Magic you either have to innovate some kind of new and good deck archetype/idea, win a world championship, have a card created in your likeness, or be involved in some big controversy or change in the foundation of the game. The more achievable of these will require a lot of money and excellent knowledge of the game.

>>54088985

How's it supposed to eat something in the graveyard if it's on the battlefield, mate.

>>54089042
>kitchen finks
>take 3 or lose 1 and have me gain 3

>>54088962
its difficult in the sense that luck plays a huge role in your success. most pro players have won tournaments because of how many they have attended, which means countless hours of testing/playing and tons of money spent. pure skill doesnt get you anywhere in mtg.

being an mtg pro must suck, I seriously wonder what motivates those people.

>>54088017
You might be brain damaged.

>>54088549
Vanilla lifegain is never maindeckable, it's too situational and only good vs burn kind of decks where you're trading your lifegain for multiple spells.

>>54088962
IQ is useless without common sense and good knowledge of card interaction.

>>54089021
I wouldn't say zero skill because you at least have to know how to play and side against different matchups. It's just that pure skill isn't enough in mtg. Knowledge of how your deck plays is also important and giving an expensive meta deck to a complete noob isn't the same as giving it up an experienced player.

>>54088985
When you kill a cute creature, your consciousness makes you forget spells.

>>54088962
2.2% of people have equal or higher IQ than you
1 million registered DCI players
44 of those have made it to the hall of fame

You're the genius, so do the math

>>54088709
this is it right here

>>54088946
He looks like he's right out of a Blooth movie.

>>54089103
What green mechanic would you use to remove tokens? Or cards in a graveyard? Reshuffling them into your opponent's deck?

>>54088962
Ignore IQ and look into what kind of people get into the Hall of Fame (assume that they all ahve to be pretty smart).

Let's look at the most recent inductees: Owen Turtenwald and Yuuya Watanabe. Yuuya has been competing on a big scale since 2007 and has top 8'ed all four PTs he's gone to. Owen has been competing since '07 too and won back-to-back GPs in 2013. Both of these guys worked with all kinds of groups and teams to get to that point.

So I guess the absolute minimum takeaway from this is even if everything completely goes your way, don't expect to make the Hall of Fame anytime before 2027

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>>54089116
Does Magic have a version of this card or any effect that triggers on lifegain?

>>54089374
sanguine bond among others

>>54089374

Lots of things trigger of lifegain, one card that has a somewhat similar effect to that one is sanguine bond

>>54088962
Learn the rules. Maybe take those level 0 judge tests just to see that you have a good enough understanding of most interactions.

Learn the metagame for the format you're playing. Standard changes every so often, so if you're good at card evaluation you could learn to make top tier decks without having to wait for some other pro to build it and copying him. Not saying netdecking is bad, but you would get more wins in a shorter span of time if you came right out the gate swinging.

Learn how to build a good sideboard. This requires metagame knowledge that could possibly be more specific than just general format stuff. Knowing that there's going to be a lot of aggro decks at a particular event, you might want to have more slots for anti-aggro cards.

Learn when to mulligan. This might take some play-testing, and also requires some knowledge of the current match up you're playing.

Also, if you're going to try and become pro, you're going to have to travel a lot. Some events you will lose, simply due to variance, and most events don't pay out that well, so good luck.

You could always try grinding MTGO.

Assuming I didn't just get baited

>>54088962
Git gud at the game, write articles, cozy up to the guys at wizards.

Worked for LSV and his endless goiter, now he even gets his brainless friends jobs at wizards because he's gotten so chummy.

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Pretty old reprint

>>54089374
MTG has plenty of lifegain sources and triggers, even decks built around it (ex. soul sisters, martyr proc, janky aetherflux reservoir storm lists). It's still not enough to play pure lifegain spells. You need to impact the board or hand state with your spells, otherwise you fall behind the opponent.

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Behold, the second of the two equipment cards in this bock.

Is WotC trying to phase out equipment? Or have deserts simply taken up all of the slots that would otherwise go to equipment?

Should we expect another drought of equipment in Ixalan, where we get more vehicles?

>>54089307
No idea what you're talking about since that spider nor Finks does anything remotely close to either of those.

>>54089021
>>54089111
>>54089153
>all these salty fags who couldn't even sweep an FNM

>>54089744
Whoops, meant to respond to >>54089023.

>>54089584
I really like this card, but people will say it is a bad turn 3 card I bet

>>54089740
They haven't made any playable equipment since original innistrad and thats more than 5 years ago.

>>54089788
I just said it wasn't all luck.

>>54089958
>Egyptian leonin scimitar

>>54087488
Why are there suddenly elementals? it doesn't seem a good fit for the plane personally.
>>54087514
WHAT'S WRONG WITH DJERU'S FACE?!

>>54089831
if you ramp turn one you could drop it turn two, or dark ritual it in turn one
it also taps the turn it comes in so it only costs two mana

>>54090146
In that case you might as well run Sol Ring or one of the Alara Fieldposts.

>>54089831
The only format I see it being used in is EDH, and it sucks there too. Rule of thumb for EDH mana rocks: 0 or 1 mana: very powerful. 2 mana (good if untapped), 3 mana (good if untapped+additional quality like indestructibility, extra mana, basic fixing, etc).

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So.. there are still rivers n sheet in the desert close enough to attract massive crocs?

>>54088709
Kek. I remember my friends telling me this card was awful, because life gain sucked.

>>54088946
smug little fucker, get in my draft decks
haha jk still forcing boros

>>54089042
More tools for the Jund Jank!

>>54090272
There live crocodiles in egypt

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>>54089374
You should have used a better example. YGO has a lifegain triggers archetype now. It's also a "highest life matters" deck too, really neat to play.

>>54090062
>WHAT'S WRONG WITH DJERU'S FACE?!
the card depicts the precise moment when Djeru realized that MTG creatie team wrote hundreds of fanfics dedicated to Samut pegging him

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>>54088946
>that face

>>54090406
That's not the point, anon. Naktamun is an oasis, thers no river running through it.

>>54089042
This + hapatra looks pretty punishing

>>54087437
I'm glad the art sucks, so does the card.

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Surprisingly playable

>>54087488
This one reminds me some kind of magi-nation card.

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What the fuck is going on with this card

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Looks good if you want to play minotaur tribal, but
>minotaur tribal
Neheb is a beast, shame there is no other minotaur support in the block

>>54090708
A truckload of mummies are attacking by walking off some high temple.
They gain flying because they are falling from a higher altitude.

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Works nicely with the discarding minotaurs for
>minotaur tribal

>>54090763
I can see that, but still
>what the fuck

>>54090685
is 2/1 with upside for 1U a staple common now?

>>54090797
Jesus fuck that artwork

>>54090272
Maybe it's not a desert crocodile? Today most of them live in water, but in bygone times there were many Crocodile varieties that were strictly terrestrial predators, and this one does not look like a typical croc.

>>54090726
Sure is great that they keep adding discard outlets when there will be no fucking payoff for discarding after everything rotates in a few months.

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Possibly mediocre if you need more cats for your cat tribal, at least it has a fat ass
>>54091036
I think the idea is that you want to discard to trigger NEHEB

>>54091064
I just can't see any R/B discard build being worthwhile without Fiery Temper and Alms of the Vein. Without madness you're just stuck tossing cards for little to no value.

>>54090685
>Blue gets more agro shit than red
Red really is the red headed step child.

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>>54090442
They also have Waifu of the year candidate in archetype. Which never hurts.

i'm surprised they didn't print a legendary jund commander with a -1,-1 counter synergy

>>54089584
So Cultivator's caravan but no 5/5 possibilities

>>54091076
Toss Embalmerlizers

>>54088962
pretty easy, play constructed, learn the meta very well, play a top tier deck, learn the top players psychology (once you get in the big invitationals) and adjust your sideboard accordingly.

>>54090272

Green getting more limited bombs. Still think green is the strongest colour in limited. Boros gets forced too much and unless you manage to get the best exert guys you arent getting through regular colossalpedes and the reach spiders. If you pick up that hexproof crocadile too you pretty much cant lose.

>>54090858
I like it tho

>>54091384

There is only Card with Eternalize in each Red and Black, and they both cost 6 to activate. Seems kinda shitty.

>>54091036

Yeah it is a shame. . . Ive been running a RDW with Bomat + That prowess jackal + Furyblade vampire. Usually discard Firery Tempers for the madness cost and getting vampire to 4/2. Helps put Hazoret online too. Bomats nice for refilling hand when you need to.

>>54091452
no no so do i it's fantastic

>>54088549
Speaking only of pure lifegain spells:it's tricky to design a card that is dead against 50% of the decks(unlike removals which can still hit the few creatures control decks play), and it will always belong to the sideboard no matter what.

that said how much should a card heal?
The question is tricky and the answer is awful.
you heal yourself to buy an extra turn, but you can end up buying yourself 2 turns or half a turn depending on the enemy damage output.you can look at healing spells a bit like time walks, or explores, or cantrips ( that still let your opponent develop and only works against aggro decks).
let's say you heal 3 life points with healing salve. if your opponent was bashing you with a llanowar elf it might look like a triple time walk.
BUT the big problem is that it doesn't matter what's the damage output of your opponent when you heal: you have to compare the heal to the damage output your opponent will have on the last turn before he would have killed you.
so if your opponent plays a 7/7 the healing salve ends up buying you only a 3/7th of a turn, which is not worth the card.
what makes pure healing cards awkward to design is that the amount of expected lategame damage per turn is different for each aggro deck.

red burn can end up with miserable damage output after few turns. a goblin guide attacking(which is easy to perma-block)+ the chance of a lightning bolt probably average 3-4 damage, while some green, white or black aggro decks are able to keep playing bigger threats, grow them with +1+1 counters, bring back creatures from the graveyard, overrun and kill your blockers, so eventually they will have 7-8 damage per turn or even more.Different aggro decks have different curves of power growth and you can't find a number that fits them all without creating an heal spell that is underwhelming against some and super strong against others.

>>54090726
This makes me want to play with Innistrad madness for funzies.

>>54088985
While you're busy with the rat you can see, the ones you didn't were plundering the graves for food.

>>54090685

fucking shit blue

oh hey it's a common

what the fuck

>>54089992
Khopesh...

>>54091638
it's also generally why lifelink or spells like lightning helix or siege rhino are so good. damaging your enemy and healing yourself actually puts you at a bigger lifeswing than what's initially apparent since while you don't gain as much life as a full on heal spell it actively helps you win the game by whittling down your opponents.

>>54088105
Well if they follow egypt close enough, samut is bald too and that is a wig.

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what is with the perspective on this fucking art?

fantastic art and flavourtext coming through. shame the card is meh

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>>54092106
fuck

>>54092116
I mean, it's common creature removal with a fairly affordable mana cost, I can't complain.

>>54090797
>>54090858
Thank god for Seb

>>54092034
What did you fucking call me you fucking talwar?

>>54092092
Either that mummy is taking a dive, or the pedestal is slanted away from him.

I'm more curious when this'll be edited to have unwanted characters thrown into the fire.

>>54089584
>>54089831

>just
http://articles.edhrec.com/in-the-margins-manalith/

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I dig it.

>>54090685

This is 100% a fucking red card

What the fuck is wrong with WoTC?

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How many quotes does "Samut, Former tah-crop initiate." need?

>>54087953
When Nissa spoke to the dead soul of the world, it spoke of loving the living creatures so much that it couldn't bear to see them go away. So now even in death they still live.

>>54092284
>Amonkhet wuvs you!

That's pretty great actually. It's like a less edgy Grixis.

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>>54087514
>We have to get out of the city, Djeru. All of us! Gather as many as you can.
Wait so do all of them need to escape or just as many as they can muster?

>>54092092
Sickest of dancing moves

Or he's in the middle of tripping over something

>>54092071
Um, excuse me? They're called weaves. Educate yourself sweetie ;)

>>54092526
>tripping, and trying to make it look like a dance move

>>54092239
>flavortext
Wow they're really trying to push the "le quirky quips" angle on everyone now huh?

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>>54092539

>>54092273
Why is nearly every flavor text entry in this set so fucking awful?

>>54092284
Actually that makes me curious, most planes lean towards one or more colors over the others right? Like how Innistrad is such a black dominated plane that it starts to seep into the other colors. So what colors does Amonkhet lean towards? With the whole "loving people so much it refuses to ever let them die, turning them into undead monstrosities" I'd say its B/W or perhaps B/W/G.

>>54092243
>state that red has too little design space and needs more depth
>stop printing decent damage spells/aggressive creature
>the design space gets even smaller
>????

>>54087923
>archer
>no reach

>>54092791

Because it's an awful set creative-wise. And it takes itself too seriously. It's a plane that was made to be destroyed, and they also have to push Samut, so yeah.

>>54092116

Flavor text is ehh, would be better without he word entirely

>>54093012
She's pointing down, duh

>>54093012
The ping ability is the shooty bit. She's too focused on turning your opponent into a pincushion over some perceived slight to care about the fliers they're sending at you.

>>54087437
I can't believe they let an uncommon be this bad.

>>54092243
>>54092284
>yfw don't have an everloving motherly avatar of the plane in yours

>>54090708
Have you never heard of dead drops before?

>>54089042
Fuck you wizards. This shit could have been playable. Why is there no creature that puts a -1/-1 on cast? No one will ever block this stupid piece of trash

>>54093165
RTFC
IT'S A RARE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>54087940
You can just cast it on your opponents endstep to cycle.
Expedite is a great card.

>>54087381
We dark souls plot now

>>54092204
a egyptian scimitar is called a khopesh... there is a card in amonkhet for pete sake

>>54089958
Captain's Claws is fucking amazing.

>>54092593
welcome to magic

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>Blue gets all of the aggressive Afflict beaters
>3 damage burn with no upside now costs 2R

...just how much is Red getting punished for how awesome Neheb is in this set?

>>54094575
Hour of Devastation is pretty good too.

>>54090708
>What the fuck is going on with this card
The only way to defeat Bolas.

>>54088805
>So every character in Magic should be an attractive 20 something, or be inhuman enough to not be comparable?

Yes. It's part of the whole "Fantasy" thing.

>>54092237
by that i meant standard playable

>>54087514
Oh shit

>>54087381
If it made black mana it'd be playable in Smallpox decks.
But WotC hates fun.

>>54088805
>So every character in Magic should be aesthetic
Yes. Ugly doesn't have a right to exist in art unless it's so ugly it's beautiful.

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>>54088962

Screw IQ. You should instead focus on mastering sleight-of-hand so that you shall be the first to reach the Hall of Fame by playing a Goblin Games deck.

>>54088962
10 years and millions of dollars.
You don't only need to buy your cards, you need to travel to every GP and PT wherever they may be.

>>54090797
YE GODS THAT ART
Give that man a raise

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I'm not normally a fan of inanimate artifacts or enchantments which conditionally become creatures (Glint Hawk Idol, etc), but this one has good stats for its cost. I recall another 2cmc 3/3 flyer doing well in Standard once...

Obviously it's not as good as copter, but it's good company to be in.

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Speaking of artwork

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>common
I have a feeling this is going to win a lot of limited games

>>54091463
Then you're not using Red AND Black to discard, you're using Red OR Black.

>>54095616
Yeah, that seems really good for what it is. 2/2 flyer for 3, plus giving evasion to something else while you're at it?

As long as you draw one of those other strangely aggro Blue creatures they've been printing lately it would work out great.

>>54094673
>Hour of Devastation is pretty good too.
Pffffbbbbt

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This one seems comparable to that card Supreme Will spoiled last week, which people liked.

Supreme Will:
>mode 1 is a Mana Leak for 3cmc
>mode 2 digs 4 cards for 3cmc
Countervailing Winds:
>mode 1 is a 3cmc tithe for <= 3 most times, but could be more
>mode 2 is weaker than Impulse, but only costs 2cmc which gives you action on turn 2

I could see a blue cycling deck (if one exists) preferring Winds over Will. With both Winds and Censor, you have 8 counterspells which cycle on t2 if you have nothing better to hit and want to fill your GY for one of the other payoff cards

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>Artifact Creature - Horror
I'm upset that they could have done so much more with this and they chose not to

>>54095711
Running 4 copies of winds does seem like it would be strong. They fuel into eachother if you need to use the card draw effect, and once you've got a sizable number of cards in your graveyard it's effectively a hard counter for 3 mana.

>>54095686
5 mana to wrath the board of indestructible creatures and Planeswalkers isn't?

>>54090797
>female minotaurs
Rare

>>54093306
dude... it is a 1/4 BLOCKER that puts -1/-1 for blocking...

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>>54093306
>Why is there no creature that puts a -1/-1 on cast?
For one thing, "on cast" is an Eldrazi trademark. And then there's this card.

Solid in limited, but could potentially be good in a dedicated -1/-1 deck? I don't know how those decks function.

>>54095587
damn thats a cool card, theyre trying to push blue aggro really hard too

>>54092791
Because most of it is Samut, jacetice league or bad exposition.
If it was all Bolas goading it could be utter shit and it's still be fun on the back of coming from a senile dragon supervillain.

>>54090797
Found my custom playmat
Thank you based Seb

>>54094575
Magic is finally a 4 color game.
Thanks MaRo!

>>54095726
Why do I recognize this pose?
Wasn't there a card from Innistrad or Theros that's dragging blood in this position.

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>>54095939
This is what you're thinking of.

>>54095969
>>54095726
Yup that's the one.
Pretty close side by side

>>54091064
Dreadful artwork.

>>54095766
Didn't pay much attention to the art in Ahmonket, did you? Minotaur tits everywhere.

>>54095594
This card is great for a Faith of the Devoted deck because it's biggest problem is you're spending mana only cycling and then can get run over by your opponents field
In limited anyway...

>>54090797
This is easily one of the best artwork/flavor text combinations in a long time

>>54090726
might just have to put a minotaur tribal together because I love the flavor of both of these

>>54095822
Pairs well with Alesha?

>>54094575
Neheb is everything the red gearhulk should have been, but also way better. HOD being the best of that cycle is also a rare win for red in terms of gaining playable cards.

Really can't wait to drop neheb before facing someone and then turning it into more value a la lord of riots.

Once again R&D making Blue best color and shitting on everything else.

>>54092273
>sorcery
For what fucking reason

>>54097800
Because otherwise it's too powerful.
I mean, hell, Shock is in this Standard too.
Or maybe Red just can't have nice things.

>>54097676
Bluehatefag just leave, you have no pictures yet are as visible as barneyfag.

>>54091482
Is there anything as satisfying as getting an early win by dumping your hand to Flameblade with Bomat and dealing 14 damage with one attacker and a madness card?

>>54097914
>t. MaRo

>>54098052
How though? You can only dump one card per combat phase.

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>>54092593

What a strange new concept

>>54098510
Bomat Courier lets you dump your entire hand. For example, say you miss land drops and end up with 7 cards in hand. You could attack with Flameblade, sac Courier to discard 7 cards and have Flameblade deal 8 damage while also getting madness value off what you threw away.

>>54098533
Ertai was the best

>>54098545
Oh I was thinking Furyblade for some reason, never mind.

>>54098608
That's not how you spell Jaya

>>54095822
this is ten times better than the spider, this deck is starting to look playable.

>>54098772
You thinking G/B, or Jund? It still feels like the archetype is just off from being playable.

>>54068253
Was gonna ree that it still does not beat Gideon but it is a sorcery anyway.
Good card though.

>>54068397
That's flavorfull

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>>54098803
Red is pic related this set, G/B.

>>54099155
Just seems like red can dish out -1/-1 counters more effectively with things like Scorpion God and Soulscar Mage+burn.

>>54099174
Personally I want to combo more with the shit from the last set like the Vizier who makes snakes, the dudes who come into play putting -1/-1s on your dudes, and the scarab generator

>>54099189
I want Nest of Scarabs to work, but I just can't see it being fast or effective enough. There's just too many board wipes in the format for wide strategies to do all that well, aside from ones that can keep quickly rebuilding like Stockpile.

>>54068422
Honestly amazed this is common. It's nothing spectacular but good enough that it is usable.

>>54098803
go G/B, the only good red is scorpion god and it's not worth adding a 3rd color for a card that doesn't auto win you the game.
they clearly built the heavy synergy on G/B and you could even try running an energy sub theme.

>>54099212
I mean it's only 3, and it triggers multiple times with shit like the dork who gets swole as he makes mana or the zombie beast.

If anything it's a fun casual deck that I want to try to make like my BUG replicating Necrotic Ooze deck.

>>54068495
guess that makes sense.

>>54090146
>dark ritual for manalith

oh boy

>>54098935
could somebody explain to me why this was not in archenemy nicol bolas?

>>54090708
It's the Leap of Faith, like in the Last Crusade

>>54092791
Because the Creative team has been creatively bankrupt for years.

>>54090708
That's fucking awesome.
Some may criticize that it does not really look like he is falling but I think it works well like that. even moreso because it is a zombie.

>>54099335
because they needed atleast 1 good card to be exclusive to the set so it would sell.

>>54068972
I like this

>>54068976
I really like the flavor on this one. I rarely bother to read the short stories but if they have one about the zombies forming a hierarchy I will read it for sure.

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>>54087923
Reach is way out of red's standard keywords, and the flaming arrow is usually a GtG tactic.

What's actually amazing is that there's a somewhat attractive woman on a magic card and the closest thing we've had to an ass shot in years.

>>54069044
Agreed.
Also nice to see jace flavor text that is not wildy ooc.

>>54099452
meant for:
>>54093012

>>54069103
Wonder if there is a reason for that.

>>54071070
Where can I read about this?

>>54070318
That would be pretty fucking neato.

>>54071557
>>54071751
I like it.

>>54087413
Neat.

>>54088628
>much inferior dance moves, tho.
Only if we are talking about the original printing.

>>54087514
That's good. Would be better as an instant but that might be too powerful.

>>54087940
it is instant for the draw a card. All you need is a creature or your opponent to have a creature in their end step. The creature does not have to attack.

>>54088017
Have you never played against a trample deck?
It fucking hurts.

>>54088469
It's instant just because because you gain use from it rarely enough that it is not worth raising the cost for it and does not put it at an in between point.

>>54088280
I don't understand how the name fits the flavor text but holy shit I love that flavor text. People with conflicting motives working together is amazing.

I think this is one of my favorite flavor texts in magic and by far the best inspiring speech flavor text.

>>54089374
Isn't 500 damage 1/4 of your life in yugioh?

>>54089740
I hope it was just the deserts taking up the slots.

>>54090062
i guess when things are going to shit you can justify anything.

>>54090272
there are not. Hence tenacious

>>54090685
That's pretty good. I think they should have made it red although it is all in blues colors.

Maybe they will print a red version one day.

>>54099721
No, it's 1/16
Yugioh is played with 8000 life

>>54092116
Are this and dunecaster the only cards that do stuff with sand?

>>54092204
>I'm more curious when this'll be edited to have unwanted characters thrown into the fire.
Soon.

>>54092916
I always thought that was only inistrad.

>>54092572
Works for me
>>54092593
I dunno. I kind of like this one.

>>54087437
>everyone hating on this fella
>i just want to use him as a worse but still lethal lord of extinction with jarad and fling effects

>>54088581
It helps with immersion to have more variety

>>54094725
Hope we get a short story.
Granted it would be a very short short story but still.

>>54095587
I just like repeatable scry.

>>54095726
Still room for more artifact horrors.

>>54098491
I bet MaRo is barneyfag and the reason magic is so shit now is he is too busy reeeing at ponies to focus on design.

>>54099405
Shame. It would have fit well.

>>54099452
And what a nice ass shot it is.

>>54099769
Oh that's fine then.
My math was wrong anyway. I was thinking it was 4000 but somehow came out with that as 1/4

>>54099922
You're thinking about the anime rules.

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Speaking of Yugioh, why is this yugioh monster design on a Magic card?

>>54100096
I don't fucking care if it is yugioh it is something other then house style and that makes me ecstatic.
Card is decent.

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>>54100096
>blue
>hexproof
Do they just not want to print shit with Shroud now?

>>54099452
You can barely tell the art director description for her was WE WUZ FLYING IN STORM N SHIET

>>54100160
Yes, shroud is retired. Welcome to the new magic.

>>54100096
don't care if it's yugioh, the fact that it's not a traced CG makes it above average for modern MTG art

>>54100160
Well there was a creature with shourd in archenemy nicol bolas but otherwise no.
Apparently people are stupid and thought it worked like hexproof.

>>54100096
I actually kind of like this art. The outline on the serpent makes it seem more stylised than usual.

>>54100275
That's kind of odd since shroud is a more "fair" version of hexproof since you can't target your own creature with shit.

>>54100291
Shroud is really fucking confusing for new players and you'll never guess what all the new magic sets are made for

>>54100328
Is it really that confusing?

>>54100107
it is at the very least better then that godawful photorealistic hand on that ring.

>>54100160
yeah, MaRo said they don't want to use it because idiots tought it worked like Shroud. Honestly it would be better not keyworded.

the worst part of it is that Shroud fixes the broken part of hexproof, by preventing you to stack equipments and enchantment on one creature.

>>54092791
I heard they're outsourcing flavor text. Can anybody back me up on this? I don't have a source but it's honestly like they can't designate anybody to do it right. They probably just throw in some suggestions from different depts in a meeting once the cards are all designed or "epic quotes" from "playtesters" "going "crazy"" with new "cards".

>>54100096
it looks really cool, and i usually hate yugiho stuff.

definitely i would prefer to see an entire set drawn like that rather than any amount of CGI cards like the gods of amonkhet.

>>54100354
if you have both as keywords it is. if you leave the most tricky one keywordless then no, unless you are playing with kids that think wrath of god only works on enemy creatures.

>>54099809
Nope it has to do with how the mana lines cross the plane. Some planes don't even have all five sources of mana. Some have no mana at all.

>>54088549
The only way to make it viable is to not make it direct life gain at all. Something like

~
Enchantment
~ comes into play with 3 safety counters on it.
Remove a safety counter from ~ the next time you would take damage instead you take no damage.

Something that gets your opponent to play differently and lets you pick and chose what life you "heal."

Flat life gain will never be "good" because its one of those mechanics that is either broken or never good enough. This is because it can be slotted into any deck. It does nothing to win you the game but delays your opponent from winning. Once its tipped past that point every deck that can use it will use it. If its not past that point no one will use it outside of fringe play or sideboard because it just doesn't do enough to justify having it.

>>54100160
Welcome to seven years ago?
The last non supplemental set with cards with shroud was Scars of Mirrodin

>>54089740
I'm pretty sure they are being phased out. They would rather the creatures have innate abilities rather then you being able to put those abilities on any creature.

>>54100687
I hope you are wrong.

>>54100645
definitely.
it's easier to make fogs than "you gain N life" istants.

>>54092539
>Weave in now endorsed by WotC
Dead game.

>>54100915
Took me a moment but I chuckled.

>>54090726
>>54090797
I'm starting to think, that a minotaur tribal tiny leader coud be good for casual games

>>54088105
Am I the only one reminded of Teal'c from Stargate?

>>54093306
>previous set has lots of creatures that enter with - 1/-1 counters along with a couple of spells that do the same
>Fuck you Wizards this is unplayable!!!

Again /tg/ demonstrating it's bad at magic

>>54092593
It's not a quip, it's a little piece of storytelling. I thought it was good.

>>54089958
Were sword of the animist standard legal i would play it in a landfall deck

>>5409593 mirrodin elf. Cant remember its name.

>>54089958
Illusionist's Bracers came out in Gatecrash and they're very playable.

>>54095711
A shame Frilled Sandwalla doesn't have Cycling to complete the references.
Why can't UG Madness be modern legal I don't even care if it's good ffffff

>>54099452
They've actually been putting reach in red some nowadays because it's the only other color it fits in and they can do different shit with it there than in green (white has no fucking need for it because white gets actual fliers, after all, while red gets dragons and...that's about it)

>>54100354
People are idiots.
You know how /tg/ is bad at magic, and that isn't just a joke? /tg/ is better at magic than most people are, despite how many idiots thought that New Perspectives meant you didn't have to discard the card you cycled or couldn't understand the difference between colorless or generic mana whatsoever.

>>54090726
>>54090797
Damn this is some good flavor text for both.

>>54090272
Did someone say Rivers in the Desert?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KukSVxgsQkg

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>>54105431
I'm glad that they made that decision. It's okay if its just an odd tertiary in red, but reach did need another home.

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>>54106887

>>54107063
where's this dude from?

>>54107467
Tokyo Ghoul
Plays on Toonami tonight although this guy bit at already

>>54092092
>now Imma free-wheel itt out of here, ANd make sure nobody see';s me

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>>54088105
Got to make Precious happy, I knew this fucking black (((nerd))) consultant would be the death of wizards.

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>>54088105
>>54087514
Why can't wizards give us Egyptian women that look like pic related

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>>54087415
you smell like a standard only faggot

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>>54108852
Or pic related

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>>54108886
Now we are talking

>>54108800
>Nigress helps design a non-stereotypical black planeswalker
>It's a sassy black woman with an afro whose abilities involve stealing cards and going to exile (see: prison) for a while after you've stolen too much
Heh.

>>54108800
>there's no person of color in the group of Planeswalkers that are trying to save other people of color
So is Samut going to ignore whites in trouble and only save blacks? What about elves? Or vedalken?

>>54108944
>be called ghost assassin
>no ability that kills creatures

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>>54087514
>>54088280
Both Wizards of the Coast and Blizzard wants to design a strong, female Egyptian, that is a good fighter. WotC gives us a nappy headed kangz that the WMB would reject for her looks and Blizzard gives us pic related, really activates those almonds.

>>54089117
IQ is literally a measurement of common sense, it's not about knowledge.

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>>54108852

>>54087415
found the pleb

>>54099785
there's also all the deserts

>>54101756
This.

>>54106887
Agreed. Red is a good tertiary color for it.I don't really mind that it is not on >>54087923 Put it on every green archer sure but not every red archer.
Maybe even mostly reserve it some red wizards. Probably mostly electrical ones.

>>54108748
Kek

>>54109018
>WMB
The what?

>>54109018
almond keks

>>54110202
Ment to say WNBA
>Women's National Basketball Association

>>54110467
Tanks.

>>54087437
you pulled an apocalypse demon out of a goblin minion deck?

they were inquisitive little bastards those goblins.

>>54088280
Samut reminds me of ill-tempered cyclops
She's either angry or asleep.

>>54087437
make it 3+number of cards in your graveyard and I will play it.

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>>54109018
>pharah
thank god Blizz didnt go full sheboon on her

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>>54111058
I would racemix with her

>>54088962
What kind of card case is that? It looks thick but clean.

>>54087437
should have been all graveyards

>>54110953
wew

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>>54111107
for most of us won't even be a racemix, the model is picrelated

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>>54111058
>>54111711
yfw white girls make superior egyptian waifus

>>54111740
Well why wouldn't they? Egyptians have European ancestry after all.