Pet peeves

>>54086712
Either call a judge or, if it's a casual game, slap them in the mouth. I mean, shit, Magic has thousands of cards. Ain't no one gonna remember all that shit.

Images for ants are a pet peeve of mine.

Also
>implying that happens
>not just saying you didn't see the name
>not calling a judge if it's pro

>>54086712
Judges are there for these douche tools. That being said, you should have a decent idea what most cards in your format do.

But yeah, if it's casual, slap that bitch or find another player. A rando at a store can be replaced by another rando, and your friends shouldn't pull this shit.

>>54086712

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>>54087627

>>54086712
I'll take things that never happened for 300 Alex

>>54086712
>No you can't look at it
That's literally against the rules. It's not a pet peeve, it's blatant cheating.

>>54087667
Happens all the time.

>>54086712
>>54088070

You're telling me that a player playing a card, refusing to tell you what it does or let you look at it, is something that actually happens?

I've played MTG since the very beginning, played in numerous tournaments and an uncountable number of casual games, and I played a few other card games like L5R and Android:Netrunner. Never once did this occur.

Even if it did occur, it would be literal cheating by the rules of any card game I've mentioned.

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>>54087627

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>>54086712
>"I play X"
>"Ok, as a result Y's ability triggers"
>"Oh, never mind then"

>>54088913
I always let people take it back for situations like this. Revealing the card to me is already enough of a punishment. It's no fun to me to win when someone loses just because they forgot something.

>>54088246

Calm down bro he's just trolling you

>>54086712
Okay, provided you're not lying to us, this is an artifact behavior from the early days of tabletop gaming where the prevailing mentality was that you could keep secrets from other players because telling them wound count as meta-knowledge.

Earlier editions of 40k are a good example:
>What's in that transport?
>You wouldn't know that!

>>54089063
In casual play, it's not a big deal. Unless they keep doing that shit. I'd probably just quit at that point.

I usually just tell my friend that he needs to pay more attention, since he would like to go pro eventually. Tournament play isn't forgiving.

Mixing mana dorks in with their lands.

DONT DO THAT SHIT

Dryad Arbor is fine

I have a friend who always gets increasingly salty whenever I use a removal spell and asks "how I did it"
*Taps 2 mana*
*Plays Doom Blade*
"I kill your creature"
"How"
"ITS FUCKING DOOMBLADE"

>>54088898
Kek.

>>54088913
That doesn't bother me unless it's in response to me casing a trick or counterspell.

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>>54089940
This.

>Opponent casts Planar Cleansing
>I activate Soul of New Phyrexia's ability and remove it from my graveyard to make my permanents indestructible
>"Oh, well that's kinda pointless. Nevermind"
>mfw

>>54086712
Taping 45 degrees.
Taping 90 degrees counter-clockwise (acceptable to denote "tapped in torpor")

>GM always targets your weaknesses
>The moment you get something to paliate one of those weaknesses, even before it took effect, suddenly all enemies stop abusing that and go to abuse another instead

>>54089924
No, tzneech, different chaos god.

I deal with it a lot in 40k. People that get incensed when I ask to see a unit I haven't seen before. No, I'm not calling you a cheat -- I just want to see the rules. It's a new fucking edition.

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>>54087627

>>54090154
>DM never lets you play to your strength.
>The instant your specific *thing* arises, the GM skips it and hurries along to the next bit where you are useless again.

True Story:
>Gonna play Eberron
>Play Ranger, pick favored enemy (constructs)
>All enemies are warforged.
>"no, these are "living constructs", your favored enemy status doesn't work.
>Magically animated ballistae shooting at us.
"Well, animated objects are constructs so..."
>"Oh, are they? They stop firing. Out of ammo."

>>54090412
I had a DnD game once. My first one -- I played a necromancer. We were travelling along a coastline, any my dude spent the whole time making a massive undead golem out of hermit crabs, since the DM wouldn't give me anything else to work with.

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>>54090412
To be fair, in campaigns where you track ammo and rations and such, it's perfectly reasonable for the ballistae to run out of ammo. But, yeah, still a dick move.

On my end...
>GM tells me that it's a Sandboxy Stars Without Numbers game, and we get to start with owning a ship with a fairly sizable cargo hold.
>Ask if we can use the Suns of Gold rules for mercantile stuff. Gets' told we will be.
>decide to make a merchant, that's good at buying and selling cargo so we can make money on the go.
>GM never gives me the chance to actually do what my character was intended to do. Straight up tells me off when I specifically go looking for cargo to move outside of jobs he gives us, calling me a metagaming faggot.
>Keeping calm, call him on his bullshit, as he was the one who approved the character concept in the first place.
>MRW GM tells me that just because he said I could do those things doesn't mean he was going to give me the chance to do them in the first place.

>>54087667
There are no $300 questions anymore. They doubled the dollar amounts for all questions in all rounds, like, over a decade ago you fucking normie

>>54090713
>watches Jeopardy!
>calls other normies

Might as well watch MTV

I can't think of any beyond shitty behavior. I mean, there are specific examples, but they're too specific to really be an overarching pet peeve. Maybe people not reading the book, expecting to be spoonfed rules, or pulling the GM card when it's clear they just don't know how something works.

The GM gets final say, but when final say is directly opposing the rules or sense, it makes all the rules feel kinda arbitrary.

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>>54090771
>doesn't know the dollar amounts for Jeopardy! clues
>probably doesn't play J6
>probably never takes the online quizzes to get on the show
>probably doesn't shout answers at the TV
>probably doesn't criticize contestants' Daily Double wagers
>doesn't think he's a normie

>>54086712
Not once in my life have I seen or heard of this before now.

>>54090914
This, why would anyone do that? If someone did that to me I would call judge for oracle text, judge would just ask why cant I just read the card, I would say because the opponent is being a bitch ass nigga and the judge would tell him to stop being a faggot.

>>54088898
Source of original picture?

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>>54091058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-ydhg10UE

>>54090590
I could have left and called him a cunt

>>54091077
The image that alfabusa made it from

>>54091095
*would of

>>54091105
>*would of
Try again.

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>>54091095
>>54091105
I did more than leave. Pic related.

>>54091125
Wood have*

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>>54086712
Literality the behaviour of a Yu-Gi-Oh villain.

>>54091253
Wait you took over?

How did that go?

>>54090412
Fun fact: living constructs are still constructs.

>>54087627
to this day I don't understand the point of it, it's not even annoying, it's just stupid and makes whoever does it look like they have adhd.

>>54091333
As a person with adhd, I can honestly say I've never flicked my cards. I hate that shit.

>>54091333
like mana weaving and putting your lands in front of your creatures, it's dumb bullshit somebody saw a card shark doing and think it makes them look cool.

>>54091310
Apparently, the rest of the group didn't really like he was doing things, so pretty easily.

It was basically "you done fucked up, I'm GMing from now on. Either shape up, or you don't play with us anymore." He left like the beta he was.

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>"I blow up your creature"

>"how?"

>"with this card"

>*I read the card*

>"you can't do that my creature isn't attacking"

>"really?"

>"yes, it says on the card"

This happened a lot more back when I was one of the two people in my play group that actually knew the rules, but this is entirely hypothetical.

HOWEVER something did happen like a month ago that grinded my gears

>playing against much younger player that has old cards because his dad played the game

>cast some creature and pass

>kid says "ok on my turn I kill your creature and you take five"

>I look at his mama and he only has one mountain tapped

>"wow that's pretty strong, can I check this card out?"

>card is pic related

>I laugh, because I heard stories about people reading this card wrong and thinking that because the opponent doesn't have blazing salvo they take five"

>I say "oh it's you kill my creature unless I take 5"

>"no it isn't. It says on the card that you don't have blazing salvo so you have to take five"

>we start arguing about this card

>eventually everyone playing is coming up and watching us argue

>finally I explain it to them that makes sense to them

>he kills my creature because I don't want to take five, and then I win that game because his deck is poorly made

A week passes

>same kid, same deck, same card (not against me though)

>so I kill your creature and then you take five

>I get really ticked off but because I wasn't against him I just shake my head furiously and keep playing my opponent

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>>54091298
there's a guy at my LGS that's literally a Yugioh character. He claimes that Stormbreat dragon (pronounced "Stowmbweath Dwagon" I shit you not) is his avatar, and whenever he plays Glory-Bound initiate he screams, "GO GO GLORY RANGERRRRRRR".

>>54092554
To be fair glory bringer is a pretty good card and that sounds pretty catchy

But then again I don't have to be around this person on a regular basis

>>54092554
Obviously, you must act like a Yugioh villain when playing against him. Constant EEEEVIL puns based on your deck of choice, insulting his cards for no apparent reason, dramatic WHAT!?s and HOW CAN THIS BE!?s at combat tricks and removal etc, the whole nine yards.

>>54092762
This, Yu-Gi-Oh's a dumb game so have some dumb fun.

>>54092762
>>54092787
I do this whenever I play Archenemy.

Honestly the best way to play any card game is to play it like a Yu-Gi-Oh villain. It's a far more enjoyable experience than the dull silence and occasional ability activations you get in some games.

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>>54086712
>places card face down as 2/2 Morph
>at the end of the game doesn't show you it was actually card with Morph

>>54090412
That's fucking nothing
>Ask GM about the game
>"Your usual medieval fantasy setting"
>Well, I think I'm going to pick Scout as the team lacks skills, perception, track and outdoorly stuff. I'll spend feats in archery and precision damage
>"Thinking on the team, nice"
>Game turns out to be Ravenloft meets Eberron as literally every enemy is either Undead, Construct, Elemental or Ooze
>Literally useless in combat, Never be able to do more than 0-1 damage to these fuckers
>Game happens always in dungeons
>Traps everywhere that are well above our level
Left that game at the 5th session when it was more than clear the GM wasn't going to throw me a bone at all

>>54092931
I would like to know in what deranged mind 'Ravenloft meets Eberron' is 'your usual medieval fantasy setting'

>>54092871
Jesus that actually works? Remind me that the next time I'm playing Birchlore Rangers.

>>54090412
>>54090590
How do you even find these GMs ?

>>54093020
Only if you're at a major tournament, and that's to make sure that the thing you put down did indeed have morph (and you didn't say, put a land face down or something 'by accident')
If it's a casual game or even FNM you'll be rightfully called an ass for trying to get a win that way.

>>54093001
It's extra funny because I wanted to play a Warforged, but GM told me no because they wouldn't fit in the game he had thought. When I discovered the world had tons of constructs and warforgeds (all with the feat that makes them immune to precision damage) I let go a loud "Are you kidding me?!"

I swear to god it looked like he hated me, but I didn't meet the guy much, he was the friend of a friend, a he invited me, why go on such length and then shit on me for 5 days?. Can't fucking understand this shit.

Then there's the fact that the rest of the players didn't see that odd at all.

>>54092762
Don't forget to gloat about your unstoppable combos and big creatures.

>>54093095
>he was the friend of a friend
I know this feel. Why are friends so good at picking dickbags as their other friends?

>>54086712
>Used to play an old CCG called Middle-Earth The Wizards.
>Originally got it because I liked Tolkien, but the game is really quite good on its own merits, although it's very complicated for a CCG.
>Stopped mostly because it's almost impossible to find other players these days.
>But back in the day, there was a small scene with this.
>I was considered the biggest fish in the admittedly small pond of the LGS.
>New guy comes along
>Shows interest in the game
>Try to show him the ropes
>Picks it up reasonably quick, says that he's going to go buy a bunch of cards
>I'm sure I'll be the best player soon because [some trivia I don't exactly recall the details of, but apparently a skilled MTG player]
>All right, whatever kid.
>Few weeks later, shows up, challenges me to a 2 deck match.
>He does okay for about 3 turns, because his resources strategy was heavy on dwarves and prowess, and my hazard strategy was centered around orcs, so I needed to set up a real death gig to avoid just giving him points.
>Set up the real death gig.
>Of his party of Thorin, Balin, Gloin, Gimli, Nori, and Ori, Thorin is the only one alive, and he's wounded and loses one of the magic items they had picked up.
>Pushes his cards to the table.
>Starts going around the store talking about how I only won because of "dumb luck".
>Offer to play him again, maybe try one of my other setups instead of the speed deck I like to use.
>No, I don't want to play such a luck based game anymore.

And I mean, I called him a kid, but he looked like 16-17ish. That anyone could be that degree of a sore loser irritates me a little, especially over a friendly match.

>>54087667
happened to me with casuals, except it was just a guy who refused to say what he was doing and you had to read his cards to know what he played. Real cunt, played him once and never invited him back.

>>54086712
This is why mtg will always be better than yugioh.

In magic, when you play a creature, you can just say "white and two for a two/two vigilance, creatures I control get vigilance"

and EVERYONE who's played a game of magic knows EXACTLY what that card does.

In yugioh, unless you've dealt extensively with the card being played, you have to sit there and read it.

Fuck yugioh.

>>54093192
Weird. One of my best friends is a guy I met in college and he basically tutored me in MTG by whooping my ass on a near daily basis. A game like the one you described sounds like an opportunity for learning, not a time to be a sore loser.

A personal pet peeve of mine would probably be card flicking, too. What I hate the most is when the top few players in a draft or sealed talk about how all they pulled was shit. Like, it is a fucking limited format. What did you expect?

>>54093293
The worst part is that every single yu-gi-oh player I've seen in a tournament felt the need to play and talk as fast as physically possible.

Like, I can get not wanting to dawdle, but they'll just slam down cards while half-heartedly murmuring a fraction of the name and expect everyone to know what's going on.

>>54086712
Weird. I have the opposite pet peeve. I don't care for casuals explaining cards I already know, which, in Modern, is most of them (or anything relevant, anyway).

>>54091409
Instead I constantly shuffle my hand around

>>54091333
They're shuffling the cards in their hand. Otherwise, you might be able to tell which card in their hand is the one they just drew, and/or know that the card that just played was something they topdecked. This is potentially useful information.

STILL DOESN'T JUSTIFY DOING IT LOUDLY YOU ANNOYING FUCKING TOOL. But good luck politely asking a gamer to be nice or not be annoying.

>>54093293
>>54093509
And yet every other player in the anime always explains what the simple and well-known Pot of Greed does.

Help, I don't know what card flicking is.

>>54093509
>murmuring a fraction of the name
Welcome to gaming. Everything has a shortened jargon nickname, half of all relevant terms are further obscured by a level of slang or memes.

It's not a Smuggler's Copter. It's a Looter Scooter. Or just a Scooter. I had a guy referring to it as a fucking Scouter and then a Scour. I'm sure it would have degraded further were it not for the ban.

>>54093293
Most Yugioh players know what most of the meta relevant cards do by memory and remember what most other cards do after reading them once.

>>54094108
I don't think I've heard of that one.
What does it do?

>>54094145
Fucking google it

Here's a rather tame example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_DkVoHG3z8

Here's a kind of impressively fast example. Usually it's a lot louder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49fbaM1I720

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>>54086712
i live in a rural conservative community and play at a weekly meetup at the park. So i get to drop this on the table and go "No, you will let me read the card."

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>>54086712
>Hey guys, remember the past four sessions with that overarching plot that you are all invested into?
>Plot twist! Everything you did was pointless and you were running around in circles!
>Also the plot was a false flag.
>What a twist, amirite?!?

>>54091409
As a person with adhd, the temptation never goes away.

I just play with tokens (Android).

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>>54094275
holy shit am i glad i don't have to play with inbreds that pull guns over card games

>>54091333
Repetitive small task/movements with your fingers helps with your memory and anxiety. Though the most prominent card flicker in mtg is probably the one who least needed it.

>>54094493
it's bait you mong

>>54094045
I set my hand face down on the table to keep myself from messing with it too much.

>>54086744
Correct answer.

>>54092403
I used to be like that kid. I figured it wasn't that OP because hey, anyone could just own one copy of blazing salve and be immune, no big deal, a bit scummy but hey it is a CCG, and I only had the one copy and my decks were notoriously shit anyway

>>54092403
To be fair, that card is badly worded. I'd word it as follows: Pick a target creature. That creatures controller chooses between the creature taking 3 damage or the controller taking 5 damage.

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>casual game at lgs
>put hand down on the table and put my hands in my lap while I wait because opponents turn always takes forever for annoying wombo combo
>HANDS ABOVE THE TABLE HANDS ABOVE THE TABLE HANDS ABOVE THE TABLE HANDS ABOVE THE TABLE TABLE HABDS TAGRJFN

>>54086712
>No you can't look at it Anon
I'm pretty sure denial of boardstate knowledge is against the rules.

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>GM
>Running a game where players spend XP on individual abilities/stats rather than leveling up
>Try to build fights that are challenging but winnable
>Most in-depth strategy the players ever come up with is prioritizing which bad guy to kill first
>They get their asses kicked most of the time
>They all start complaining about how it isn't fun
>"I keep getting terrible rolls!"
>"You're making the enemies too hard!"
>"This game isn't balanced!"
>Take a closer look at their sheets
>All of their combat abilities are way behind for their level
>Half of them haven't spent their XP in months
>The other half spend it on random shit that catches their eye
>Not fluff skills, mind you, literally just putting points in random things that they suddenly decided they had to have that week

>>54090005
Then you should reply with "never mind on my card too, then," and keep your counter forever.

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People who constantly try and take back their misplays. You don't get better or learn by taking things back. You accept your mistakes and then you get better because it cost you the game and then you will never forget it or make that mistake again.

>>54090154
>>54090412
This is honestly a serious issue in a lot of games, where the most sought after abilities are the ones that render whole ranges of challenges moot. If you're throwing obstacle courses at a flying party, all you're really doing at that point is jacking them off.

>>54090502
Well, he apparently let you freeform how necromancy works, so you can't complain too much.

>>54090031
Someone's a filthy fucking right handed prick.

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>>54088913
Eh, I allow ONE backtrack per game so long as it's because you missed or misread something on the battlefield and not you purposedly trying to bait counterspells or something.
Then again I only play casual in multiplayer, in 1v1 competitive you pay for it it's cast and if you couldn't have casted it you get a warning wether you're just aloof or actively trying to cheat.

>>54091616

Actually, you retard, him leaving was the alpha thing to do. Staying and getting cucked out of GM is an absolutely beta male thing.

>>54086712
>Playing Fallout in Savage Worlds.
>Tasked with taking out an entire tribe of hostiles.
>Realistically I would refuse the impossible task, but I go along with it because it's obviously what the GM has prepared.
>I wanted to play a meme character, but I end up making the plans. We go to their canyon dressed in the evil tribe's clothes, planning to open fire when they're close enough to talk to us. Emphasize that we're trying to be stealthy and watchful.
>No stealth checks, a guard pops up at a distance demands a password.
>Gig's up, I shoot him. Twelve guards warp in on the canyon walls.
>I fall back, the rest of my party allows themselves to be captured.
>Tribals mention sending scouts to look for me. I mention OOC that it might work to my advantage, since they have rifles I could loot.
>GM does his 30-minute planned scene with the captured party, the tribals are good guys blah blah. I wait patiently for my own encounter.
>Oh, turns out the tribals don't send anyone to look for me after all.

GMs metagaming against my plans is my pet peeve.

>>54097765
It's only badly worded if you're pretending that there's punctuation where there is none. Moreover, MTG will always say "own" or "reveal" if they are expecting a player to demonstrate they have a card.

>>54098035
God i hate it when players forget they have to level up or they have feats that can help them

Did you let them know about that if i may ask?

>>54086744
fippy badippy tbhfam

>>54098344
Yup. They're learning, but it's slow fucking going. The ones who don't spend XP at all are the worst, because they just keep putting off updating their sheets over and over.

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>>54086712
>not explaining the effects of every one of your cards and narrating your actions smugly and at length
Pathetic!

>>54087506
>That being said, you should have a decent idea what most cards in your format do.
I'll say, that's true for the established decks, but when someone comes in with an unusual combo or spicy tech, you better bet i'm gonna read your card, possibly multiple times.
Megrim jar, who the fuck plays megrim.

>>54089880
>inb4 friend is playing Bogles

>>54093085
I think it depends. If your opp is clearly playing morph creatures, and had one in hand or something, whatever, but it's perfectly reasonable to need to see what the creature is after they win a game 1. It can influence sideboarding, and is information you should have.

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People who get salty whenever the game being played doesn't go how "it should." Funny "how it should" always ends in their overwhelming victory.

>>54086712

>They have no idea what the card does, just that friends who do know how to play have hyped it.

>I'm a better, experienced player, but still lose to that card.

>That card is Jace the Mindsculpter.

>>54089063

My friend was a pro player. Whenever I fucked up, he forced me to deal with my fuck up so that I understood board state and card interactions. You can walk back cards in tournaments, you see.

It really did make me a better player.

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>>54092403
This card used to be a big problem in my group, all because these niggers don't understand the importance of commas. I think it's even worse than your example because the text stops and goes to the next line in the worst possible spot for this kind of confusion.

>>54087627
>brian kibler laughing in the distance

>>54093131
Not him, but I usually just assume that I too am just a dickbag and just don't notice it.

>>54086712
This isn't pet peeve worthy, this is rage

>>54098071
>Oh, shit, I fucked up. Oh well.
>It's cool, we can back up.
>Nope, I fucked it, this is my life now.

These are the truly best people.

>>54093085
>>54093020
They changed that rule because of community backlash

>>54088913
Who drew that? Its a very cute art style.

>>54099504
It's from Ava's Demon if I am not wrong.
www.avasdemon.com

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>Fellow player will always take the side of the GM in any argument "because the GM is god"
>Always points out things that are to the players' detriment if the GM forgets
>Doesn't do the same for things that are to the players' benefit
>Interprets every even slightly ambiguous thing against the players
>Is the sort of autist that believe the dice are god and there is no room ever for fudging even if that means the GM's set up a cutscene that terminates in the party being hit with a fireball spell at level 3
>"Right's supposed to be right no matter how wrong it is"
>Plays his characters like utter retards, up to and including one shitting in a well and stabbing a stable boy and getting executed, lasting all of one session

I get it, dude, you're "hardcore", you like to earn your fun, but for fuck's sake, Dorf Fortress isn't this insanely hellbent on killing you.

We're even playing the most autistically detailed and lethal game to ever include a d20.

fucking catchphrases, esp from full grown humans

pal 1 is a bit lolrandom and loves doing silly voices, but has a very short attention span and poor memory, so his dumb shit is at least varied. the main aggravator of my pet peeve is pal 2, who will latch on to silly phrases from pal 1 and run them into the fucking ground. every crisis card in BSG is a falsetto 'CHANCE TIME', every new turn in King of New York is 'Batter-Up'.

lame, but not quite enough of an issue to do more than whine on 4chan about, and maybe therein lies the peeve

>>54099595
Get off my board, normie.

>>54091333
>to this day I don't understand the point of it
There's several. 1) Some people find that shuffling the cards in their hand helps them concentrate, 2) shuffling the cards in your hand can sometimes help you get a new perspective on your options, and 3) some opponents do indeed find it annoying and so it's a way to get them off balance.

>>54091559
>like mana weaving
It's nothing like mana weaving. Weaving is at best complete idiocy and at worst cheating.

>putting your lands in front of your creatures
That was how Richard Gardfield intended the game to be played. But regardless the game has no rules governing where permanents and zones go so you're free to place them wherever you want as long as you keep different zones distinct from another.

The fact that some people do find it so annoying, however, is definetly one of the major incentives to do it.

>>54099595
Sorry, but fudging is just cheating. How will you ever deal with unexpected results if the GM fudges any time it doesn't go according to plan? Critical failures and, yes, dying can be about the most memorable parts of an RPG.

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>>54099820
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

>>54099820
I usually hate DMs fudging but sometimes they need to. I once had a high level mage not-quite-legendary bossfight fail 5 times in a row to break Hold Person, a level 2 spell in a 10th level campaign. We dismantled him before he even got a chance to act

What I really hate are the times where 'The DM should win sometimes' DM decides a character has gotten too many lucky dodges, or if they want an enemy to be a recurring character so they shit out a hidden passageway that nobody got asked to roll perception for

>>54099533
I've never seen this before and am loving every page. Thanks anon.

>>54092403
>>54099360
The correct response, if you're playing at a card store, is to pause the game, purchase the card, and then show it to them to prove you 'have' the card. But if you do that, then the card doesn't work that way anymore.

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no one could fucking understand what this card did so we pretty much made that up everytime.
sometimes it ended up casting an artifact with at least X mana cost, sometimes it milled your entire deck unless you had at least X artifacts and i don't remember the other bullshits we pulled, but we never used it fairly.

>>54090005
This is where I would draw the line. If he takes back his thing then you get to take yours back because otherwise there is no reason for you to pop Soul. If he bitches then all you have to do is say that no one gets to take anything back from now on.

>>54097765
It's only worded badly if you don't know how to read.

>>54090005
i am somewhat ok with that as long as it was information he should have known, like cards on the battlefield or in the graveyard(definitely not a counterspell in my hand).
Letting your friend correct a mistake makes the match better ad more fun while both players improve at the game.

>>54100644
How the hell did you not understand what that card does?

>>54099820
>How will you ever deal with unexpected results if the GM fudges any time it doesn't go according to plan?
Realizing that it's ok for the GM to fudge every once in a while is not the same as saying that he should fudge every single roll, you austistic dickbag.

I generally don't care about what my opponent does on his side of the board, what pisses me off is if they start getting touchy with my cards without asking. Also, someone said the putting mana dorks in with your lands. Fuck off, don't do that.

>>54086712
Or if you are the yugioh anime you never ask and the opponent never tells.
It seems like that show existed on the back of nobody knowing what their opponents cards did.

>>54100774
i don't remember. we were kids.
eventually i figured out that the card kind of sucked, but why would i point it out and nerf our decks?
we were playing against kids who had 6 copies of counterspell in the deck or were able to put 20 lands into play on the first turn because after WOTC started printing textless basic lands idiots tought that the old mountain would let you fetch a mountain from your deck and put it into play.

>>54092863
Oh yeah half the fun of archenemy is haming it up.

>>54094232
>I had a guy referring to it as a fucking Scouter and then a Scour. I'm sure it would have degraded further were it not for the ban.
This ammuses me

>>54100878
In the newest anime, VRAINS, players actually check what the cards do.

>>54094257
>Here's a kind of impressively fast example.
That was slow as shit. Not only does he fuck up, the cards aren't even sleeved.

>>54098071
In my local I have to battle people to let me keep my mistake instead of redoing my turn. It is frustrating as fuck. I find I learn better that way especially with the likes of illegal procedure in blood bowl.

>>54094257
>Magic The Gathering Card Flicking at 120 frames per second FPS
>At 120 frames per second FPS
>120 frames per second frames per second

Why?

>>54098227
>manning up and admitting wrongs so you can become better.
>Beta.

u wut m8? A shit gm is a shit gm. They don't magically get better unless they finally admit they're shit and are willing to let others help them learn.

>>54101282
Search results.

>"Okay, I play Elderscale Wurm"
>"Is that the one that heals you for 7?"
>"No, that's Pelakka. This is the one where damage can't bring me under 7 health."
>"Fucking gay ass bullshit overpowered card"
This is literally the exchange that happens every time I play that guy.

I flick becuase I actually have adhd plus when the game is getting tense and I have to do alot of combat math and stuff my flicking goes into overdrive. This whole time I never even knew it was annoying and no one has ever said anything to me.

>>54098108
I'm a lefty and usually tap creatures clockwise. but lands anti-clockwise

>>54086712
>alright then i won't pass priority until i know what you're casting

boy that was pretty hard

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>>54094375
>plot of the campaign is an encroaching fog surrounding the kingdom and destroying all in its path
>this fog has been at it for a very long time
>the campaign is called "Fog of Elbar"
>naturally, design my character's backstory with the fog in mind: her parents disappeared trying to get through the fog and she's been researching its secrets ever since
>beat a small boss when we're all level 3
>the fog all just leaves forever
>now the plot is about a multidimensional portal that has nothing to do with the fog

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>>54099441
>friend is playing a kavu predator/false cure deck where he has stuff that heals me, and other stuff that gets stronger when I get healed or turns all the healing into damage
>it's his third game playing it
>turn one he plays 4 cards, healing me for 17
>"okay, take 17 damage"
>"what? no, you didn't play false cure"
>that look of terror on his face when he realized that he had made a terrible mistake
>win because he spent half his hand to heal me for 17 on turn one

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"I'll cast [card], does it resolve?"
>"Sure anon"
>quietly draws cards from study without saying anything at all

>>54101464
Was the portal inside the fog? If so then I wouldnt have too much issue.

>Good news: you know what happened to your parents
>Bad news: that doesn't help her get closure or anything.

But if a portal just popped up somewhere else after the fog vanished, that'll be a lot more "wtf DM" worthy.

>>54101491
That's fine, just gamesmanship. The onus is on the opponent to realize there's a study on board and pay for it, and by the time they ask "does it resolve" they're past the time they can pay for it.

>>54101492
No, it was completely unrelated. I think the DM just changed his mind about what kind of game he wanted to run. I was mostly peeved that killing some random guy fixed all the problems and then the plot point that the entire campaign was centered around just fucked off.

>>54101506
greedy rhystic study player here

>>54101506
The thing is though, it's a may trigger. I don't (and I shouldn't) have to remind my opponent of his own beneficial triggers that are optional. If he gives me the green light, he gives me the green light. If he wants to draw a card, he's got to give me the option of paying mana for it

>>54101524
Okay. Yeah that's dumb.

>>54101525
Usually the first one or two times I'll mention study, but not every time.

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>people who don't hold their cards like this and instead keep shuffling through them like a small pile in their hands

I know it's something everyone does at pro tours but it bugs me.

>>54101535
rhystic study isn't a "you may have opponent pay 1 extra mana" effect

when you cast a spell, rhystic study's trigger goes on the stack on top of your spell. then you either pay the mana or not pay the mana. if you don't pay the mana, then rhystic study player *may* draw a card if he chooses to, but he might not. if you do pay the mana, then the effect is nullified, and he can't draw a card in any case

if you're asking "does my spell resolve" then you've already resolved the rhystic study trigger, and if you haven't paid for it then he gets to draw a card before your spell even resolves

>>54101567
I think asking your opponent if their own spell resolves is a reasonable enough prompt to remind them that if they don't pay 1 they are allowing you to draw a card.

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>>54101562
My buddy holds his cards like pic related and it pisses me right off. Very hard to see how many cards he has in hand.

>>54094059
I understand that but you can just shuffle your hand 2-3 times like I do, it doesn't need to be constant.

>>54101562
It's to obscure information about sitting cards. When you keep the positions fixed, opponents can deduce some things about your hand.

This constant flicking sure is annoying to watch, but it serves a purpose.

>>54101598
Can't you just ask them to tell you the number of cards in their hand?

>>54101618
I can, and he obliges, but it still annoys me.

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>playing mtg against a friend
>have a vandalblast i could use
>look over to my opponent's board and see no rocks on the field, just lands
>"huh could have sworn he played some rocks"
>well whatever, pass turn
>he untaps and starts casting spells with 2 rocks he had hidden under his lands
>call him out on it
>"IT'S MORE CONVENIENT XD"

i'm going to start hiding creatures in my lands if he keeps doing this shit

>>54101567
When Rhystic Study triggers, you can choose to take the trigger or not. You might not want to draw a card for whatever reason, maybe you're trying to achieve Hellbent the old fashioned way or something. If you choose to take the trigger, then and only then, does your opponent have the opportunity to pay 1 mana. If you don't ask and he taps a land, the mana floats as there's nothing to spend it on. If you ask and I don't pay the mana, you *have* to draw.

In any case, have a look into missed triggers. Its not your opponent's job to remember your triggers, and your opponent has every right to keep his thoughts on what he thinks your gameplan is a secret.

>>54101681
you're actually 100% wrong

>4.10.2004 You don’t have to decide whether or not you are drawing until after the player decides whether or not to pay.

first the trigger goes on stack. then you have to choose whether you want to pay or not. then if you don't pay, then rhystic study owner has to choose whether or not he wants to draw a card.

the trigger will always go on the stack regardless of what either player wants. the only choices made are "do you want to pay?" for the caster and "do you want to draw?" rhystic study owner

i think the rhystic study owner will have to ask whether his opponent is using the 1 mana he tapped to pay the tax, but he doesn't need to ask if the other player doesn't tap a mana by the time he asks if the spell resolves, because at that point he can assume that he decided not to pay the mana for the trigger, and therefore he can draw before the spell resolves

if the rhystic study player isn't a dickhead, then he will ask if someone wants to pay the tax when they cast a spell, but it's not an ability that he himself activates (since it is a triggered ability activated by a permanent) so i don't think it's his responsibility to keep asking

i'm not sure what the rules say about that though

>>54099145
You definitely SHOULD show them, yes.
Game losses shouldn't be handed out for not showing them, though, which is what was being referenced and only happens on the pro tour and whatnot (where they need to be sure it's a morph, but some asshats take that as 'you forgot to show, thanks for the win')

>>54101535
>it's a may trigger.
Not the part that is relevant.

>>54099465
Oh, didn't know that. That's good, because asshats going to asshat.

>>54100918
Wouldn't that logically mean the old mountains don't tap for mana if you thought their text was 'go grab New Mountains?

no because since they are mountain it also mean you can play a red card that cost as many mountains as you tap, just like all the other basic and non basic lands do without needing any text on it.

BTW i cast fireball for 21 damage, you are dead.

>>54089509
You sure it's not just being a dickhead?

>>54086771
>Images for ants are a pet peeve of mine.
In this context it's clearly on purpose for a very good reason.

>>54091310
the trick is to cut off the whole face in one piece and have the previous dm sedated and tied up.

>>54098838
Its about presentation

>>54101869
There's people who don't know what The Mimeoplasm does?

>>54099256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0oP2Jcl-M&

>>54099595
>>Is the sort of autist that believe the dice are god and there is no room ever for fudging
good

>>54092871
It was so glorious to see this guy get so worked up and in the end lose to U/B turns (QUAD SLEEVED GANG).

>>54101972
>passes priority without activating Jace
>gets butt blasted when his opponent has a removal spell
Graham is a fucking retard.

>>54086712
I would love for someone to try that shit at an actual function. This shit is right up there next to "I can tap my lands however I want, including turning them face down/declaring this pile tapped" in the stupid bullshit retarded cheaters attempt.

>>54094275
> plays fucking range queen on random at the park
> over a card game
Oh I'm sorry was that supposed to make you look tough? Because you look like a faggot

>>54099360
>>54098252
>>54097765
I feel like using the verb 'has' is a poor choice in this context. 'Allows' or 'accepts' might have been less ambiguous.

>>54102307
People who don't actually read what the cards say will make it do what they want it to do regardless of how it's worded.
Hell, I can see people misreading the Oracle text version of Book Burning which is:
Any player may have Book Burning deal 6 damage to him or her. If no one does, target player puts the top six cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.

>>54099788
Couldn't a player repeatedly ask to see creatures because they're too far away, and then call a judge to ask the player to put creatures in front since you don't want to delay the game by having to check everything?

>>54086712
When the conclusion of a game causes TIME BULLSHIT that means everything that happened never happened at all.
All stuff your characters went through? Nope, didn't happen, because TIME TRAVEL means the things that brought everyone together didn't happen in the first place!
And it's happened three times with three separate GMs.

>>54091298
Don't you dare insult my Senpai, he's no villain.

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>>54086712
>Game 1
>I'm losing
>Play what ends up being my final turn in hopes it gives me something to survive another turn
>Game 2
>I'm winning
>Opponent realises this and gives up on their turn
Winning's no fun if you don't get to actually do it

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>>54086712
>Was introducing a guy to netrunner
> bring two decks and lend him one for a match.
>Fucker had this disgusting-tier habit of holding his hand of cards near his mouth
Don't say anything as I know I'm just getting peeved
> but then he does this...
>occasionally puts a card between his lips when examining the board state.
Fucken hell! how degenerate do you have to be? THOSE AREN'T YOUR FUCKING CARDS MAN. Told him off a couple of times for it, but needless to say I was too busy to play anytime after that. thank god they were just sleeved.

>>54099820
>t. never been a GM

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>playing 5e
>guy sitting next to me pulls up the monster manual to look up whatever monster we're fighting

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>>54087627

>>54106663
>dat pic
yfw it wasn't a player but the GM all along?

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>>54101374
>getting upset at a 7-mana fattie that doesn't autowin

you need to find better opponents

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>>54101809
>>54100918
i remember a game from years ago. One kid plays Dark Ritual, then starts digging through his deck for 3 Swamps

>>54092554
Please tell me his name isn't Harold.

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>>54106875
Marimo is cute!

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>>54090872
>tfw your whole family does this every time we watch Jeopardy

>Friends always borrowing my books
>Act like cunts so I stop letting them
>Suddenly I'm an asshole, selfish or they're entitled to keep borrowing even when they act like cunts.
It's not hard to understand. Treat people decently if you want them to keep being willing to help you out.

>>54086712
Whenever I play in another GM's game who rolls behind the screen but won't tell you the monster's attack roll so it's always a crapshoot whether or not I'm wasting a spell slot casting Shield, but since the GM obviously know all of our attack rolls they can have their monsters use those kind of abilities perfectly every time.

>>54106132
>Losing
>play my final turn anyways
>by some heart of the cards bullshit, manage to draw the perfect card
>steamroll the opponent and win

Always play to the end, just in case.

>>54086712
A bunch of the MtG autists that lurk in my LGS have a myriad of cards in fucking Portiguese, no, none of them read, write, or speak Portuguese, but they have them in their decks all the same...

>>54093293
There are a lot of reasons to dislike MtG, but the keyword system is genuinely a very good idea for a CCG.

>>54104843
In competitive tournaments, it's your own responsibility to know and remember open information. What the cards in play do is open information.

>>54094503
>implying this doesn't happen
>has never been to /k/

>>54107744
And it's your right to call for a judge if you think your opponent deliberately puts cards as far away as they can.

>>54104843
Yes you can. As an added bonus, openly accuse your opponent of deliberately trying to conceal his important cards. It can reverse tilt these scrubs who only rely on cheap tricks.

>>54107140
I don't see a problem with this unless they try to lie about whats printed on the card.

>>54097883
>lap
Is this recent happenings? If yes, then you might be facing Travis Woo or one of his followers.

>>54086712
I hate when players are so fucking casual that they don't know the cards in their own deck.

Granted, this isn't much of a problem after round 1, but seriously... wtf?

>>54094503
I've had a player wave a combat knife around as if it made him look cool. Everyone just realized how shit he was. Same guy spent multiple paychecks on rifles, despite already having plenty, instead of trying to save to go to CC or anything useful for that matter.

Don't underestimate how dumb people can be

>>54094243
it allows you to take the top card from your deck, look at it, then place it in your hand
then after that, you take the top card from your deck, look at it, and place it in your hand

>>54107140
Portuguese cards are probably cheaper since no one wants them