Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>54083942
First for DAILY REMINDER MANLETS WILL BE SQUATTED BY 9TH ED

WORLD
EATERS

KEEP pol in /pol

is table top simulator a good way to learn how to play the game?

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Rate my 2000 points list

There's 2 dark lance raiders aswell

Gonna repost my list since the thread devolved into political shitflinging

Space Wolves
++SpearHead Detachment [1999/2000pts]++

+HQ+
Wolf Guard Battle Leader [98pts]
Frost Axe, Rune Armor, Storm Shield

Iron Priest [95pts]
Boltgun, ServoArm, Thunderhammer

+Elites+
Venerable Dreadnought [147pts]
Plasma Cannon/Great Claw w/ Storm Bolter

Dreadnought [133pts]
Assault Cannon/DCCW w/ Storm Bolter

+Troops+
Grey Hunters x9 [225pts]
Wolf Guard w/ Combi Melta, Powerfist
x2 meltagun, wolf standard

Grey Hunters x9 [183pts]
Wolf Guard w/ Combi Plasma
x2 Plasmagun

+Dedicated Transport+
Rhino [72pts]

+Heavy Support+
Long Fangs [177pts]
x2 lascannon, x2 missile launcher, storm bolter

Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [331pts]
Storm Cannon, Siege Claw x2

Land Raider Crusader [306pts]
Multi melta

Relic Deredeo Dreadnought [232pts]
Anvillus Autocannon Array, Aiolos Missile Launcher, Twin Heavy Bolter

How well would this work? Also any ideas on how to model the atomantic pavaise for the deredeo, when I get it going to magnetize it for all options

>>54083978
>good way to learn how to play the game?
As long as you can find a person who know the game to play with you.

>>54083978
Yes.
Just join discord to find opponents.

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>>54083942
threadly reminder

>>54084003
I guess I will have to do what >>54084013
Says considering I know no one

I have a problem with the new rules for my loved SM drop pods. Most people say that you can deep strike via drop pod and the unit is able to move after disembarking.
But 'At the end of any of your Movement phases this model can perform
a drop pod assault...' sounds for me like the unit can't move because the drop pod assault happens at the end of the movement phase, so when everything has moved. I don't know what they intended to say. If the disembarking unit is able to move normaly why even say 'at the end of the movement phase'? What do you think?

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anyone can redpill me on how to paint the helmets for the ultrasmurfs?

>>54084227
If their intention was for the embarked unit to be able to move after disembarking, the drop pod assault would happen during the movement phase, not at the end.

>>54084227
That's what it would imply to me, too - that you can't move after dropping.

>>54084243
What are you struggling with?

>>54083979
You won't have many guys to cap objectives, unless you place all your troops in the Tantalus and use that. I believe it can take 16 now; use your other vehicles to shield it.

>>54084275
mostly the vet heads, how to paint the white over chaos black is fucking with me, and how to paint it over the red

>>54084249
>>54084254

Thank you guys.

>>54084297
i've never painted spehs muhreens before, so I'd like some help since I just started with the new dark imperium box

>>54084323
Not the Anon before, but if you need some general basic tips, then there are some good tutorials in the Mega links on top.

And if you look for the tips of how to paint White Scars, then it should show you a good way about white armour painting.

Post results whenever you´re done or need an opinion, Anon.

>>54084297
>mostly the vet heads, how to paint the white over chaos black is fucking with me, and how to paint it over the red
Never tried, but I would paint the whole helmet white and then paint only the non-white parts black or blue or whatever.
Also it helps if u start with a light grey and paint over that with white

>>54084297
Don't paint white over black, use a grey or white primer, at least on the head.

Start with grey, something like ulthuan grey or vallejo sky grey, then highlight with white after using a black or blue shade on the recesses.

Same goes for white over red, start grey, work up to white.

>>54084378
This is good advice, Anon. Why work from black to white? That's crazy talk.

>>54084405
>>54084387
>>54084378
>>54084341
>>54084323
Cheers lads, I'll go over it with ulthuan grey and give it a highlight of white scar, I'll post results when i get them done and finish building my nurgle lads, look out for ultrasmurfs in the coming threads

>>54084297
In addition to what others are saying, masking tape is your friend when doing stripes etc.

Are Plague Marines any good? They don't do much damage, have few models and feel like a troop tax.

>>54084457
They're ded 'ard, though, and make great screens for shit that actually does damage, plus the special weapons you put on them live a lot longer.

>>54084433
Stop namefagging. No one cares that you live on a barely existent rock

>>54084457
The box comes with a few of them, I really like the sculpts desu

>>54084481
is it viable to run all Death Guard then?

>>54084493
>what is meeting other maltese people who play wargames
I've seen another one here, and i'll be using it to post my numarines here, whats with the butthurt anon

Any response about Lootaz and Battlewagons?

>>54084540
He is probably a butthurt taufag

>>54084561
Tau are actually balanced now though.

New WAAC faction is Orks.

>>54084575
Why are Orks OP now?

>>54084457
GW and store managers were surprised to see Death Guard win something like 80% of Dark Imperium games at Warhammer World and Origins.

I wouldn't be shocked if Distgustingly Resilient is nerfed to only ignore wounds on a 6.

>>54083962
>I like to point out things which any retard can tell is going to happen herpdedurp

Wew laddy boi.

>>54084588
any idea what they were using for AV?

>>54084580
In new edition, hordes are OP since you simply cannot delete blobs with templates and autokill.

The way it is 'meant' to be balanced is that big blobs get cucked by morale, however orks are immune to morale for all intensive purposes.

Lots of factions can horde spam, that in itself isn't OP, it's the combination with morale immunity.

If you were to design 500 point armies of Eldar, GK, and/or IG for the purposes of teaching the game, what would you field?

>>54084521
Sorta. You can't use termies, so you have to use Poxwalkers as the living shields. Also, you can't take Typhus or Necrosius unless Death Guard is your legion word. But both of them are incredible.

>>54084602
>all intensive purposes
(You)

>>54084603
IG: Commander, 2x Troops, LRBT, maybe a HWS to fill in points if there's still any floating around

>>54084617
I planned on using both to make them harder to deal with. Throwing in a predator and Sicaran.

>>54084602
>Keeping this meme going
W
E
W

>>54084602
hordes are only OP if you can ignore or counter morale tho.

>>54084575
Fucking only faction that can DS to within 9".

>>54084596
AV?

>>54084659
Anti Vehicle

>tfw love cultists
>tfw the only horde that has NO immunity to morale at all
feels terrible man

>>54084603
For teaching purposes, you want a little bit of everything. Take psykers to show off the psychic phase. Take vehicles to show the importance of armored warfare. Etc. But, leave out deep strikers. I found that when teaching new players it's important to not overwhelm them with choice paralysis. Maybe ease in with that stuff eventually.

Orks and all Eldar have lots of low-point models you can use to field small yet effective armies.

>>54084677
Abaddon makes them immune

>>54084685
thats what i've been rolling with but it's hard to cram all of them inside his bubble whilst keeping the units seperated
might use a dark apostle or 2 instead

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>>54084107

>>54084654
Tyranids can do it too

>>54084668
Well there aren't any vehicles in the starter box but Death Guard have one plasma gun, plasma pistol, powerfist, and krak grenades. I don't remember the stats on the Lord of Contagion's axe.

>>54084603
Probably the Start Collecting boxes. They have a good mix of troops, a big elite unit, and an HQ

>>54084641
How is it a meme? Not him.

>>54084603
If you don't mind proxying the farseer on jetbike as a farseer on foot, the below can be put together with a start collecting box plus a guardian box:
>farseer with singing spear - 120
>10 guardian defenders with HWP (missile launcher) - 110
>3 windriders with shuriken cannons - 96
>fire prism with shuriken cannon - 170
>total - 496
Or you can build a night spinner instead, which changes the total to 493 points.

>>54084713
Blight drone is a vehicle
Plague axe thing is S+3, AP -3, D 3

Why are Crisis Suits so... shitty?

For the price of 3 suits I can get 2 commanders. The only thing that Crisis are good for is flamers.

>>54084797
You are right.
Commanders need a points increase by a good 25%

>>54084805
I think Commanders aren't the problem

Crisis should probably be bumped up to BS3+

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>>54084795
No the axe is S+2,

>>54084784
Because as usual, tg is shit at mathhammer. There are plenty of ways to deal with hordes. Saying hordes are OP is just plain false.

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Okay Here we go both my lists together for the Narrative things. Please any advice on any weaknesses I have bred into the lists, tactical advice on what to watch out for, and everything of that nature is greatly appreciated.
[1/2]

>>54084821
Go on then

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>>54084845
This is the defense list that will be used anytime any of the other players
[Tau, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Ork] attack one of my territories on the map.

I recently got into the hobby and I have messed up one of the first minis I assembled by overpriming (with army painter primer) so details got hidden. Is there anyway to clean up the mess?

>>54084821
Such as?

>>54083962
>Implying they will ever get rid of their best-selling kits

>>54084602
>The way it is 'meant' to be balanced is that big blobs get cucked by morale, however orks are immune to morale for all intensive purposes.
It's a doggy dog world out there, deal with it.

>>54084865
Get a leviathan. Does damage proportional to enemy unit size. GG

>>54084859
Yes, dump it in some flavor of pure alcohol, leave it for a bit, then scrub it with an old brush.

>>54084894
Sorry I don't play DLC and even if I did I don't play Poster Boys.

>>54084894
>needing p2w FfW shit to deal with bog standard GW units

>>54084907
>>54084914
>europoor cucks who need sleep

>>54084907
kek
What do you play?
The honest answer to hordes is to field one or two tarpits of your own. The issue is people want to field all the new big tanks and monsters but they're all countered by blobs and people will muhmathhammer. Just don't be stupid in game. If a horde and a monster are locked in a vacuum the math checks out. That won't be the case on the table.
As a nid player who mostly enjoys nidzilla I just took two blobs of gants/devilgsnts split. Super cheap and with good positioning I haven't worried about boyz in a while.

>>54083998
you can't take two siege claws on a leviathan and you have to buy 2 heavy flamers for it.

Your landraider has to take 2 hurricane bolters.

>>54084859
If it's a metal model, aceton will do the trick very nicely.

Otherwise, try cleaning products. Ethanol, white spirit, ammonia, that kind of stuff. Don't overdo it, plastic/resin are only slightly more resistant to those that the paint itself.

>>54084902
Thanks, gotta get me some absolute ethanol from the lab then.

>>54084914
>p2w

well, you kind of have to buy your models anyway, and if there's imbalances in the core GW units it kind of invalidates any point about FW being imbalanced

>>54084959
You can take 2 siege claws...

>>54084969
Does acetone work better than ethanol? It's a plastic model and acetone might be too aggressive.
Could I soak the brush with the organic solvent and gently scratch to prevent overdoing it instead or does it have to be soaking for a while?

>>54084813
Mah bad

>>54084971
mind you it doesn't work on resin/finecast models, just a heads up, as the resin will absorb the alcohol and turn rubbery before cracking apart

>>54084988
acetone would fuck the plastic

>>54084988
acetone will straight up melt the model.

>>54084955
It's 13:00 or 14:00 is Europe.

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So do orkoids not need to breathe?

are genestealer cults any good?

>>54084988
Aceton works better than ethanol. It will strip the paint from the plastic. It will also strip the plastic from the plastic. Don't do it.

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How does it feel not having the best transport in the game?

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So I'm still trying to pick an army.

Those crossed out in black are ruled out. Those in red are only ruled out due to cost. The rest are possibilities.

But holy shit I can't choose.

>>54085006
They're too stupid to know that they need to, so they don't.

>>54085016
Shut up with your P2W crap.

>>54085006
They do, they just magic up an atmosphere with squigs and fungus and/or build forcefields.

>>54084809
Yes, let's give them a higher BS than even riptides or the stormsurge.
Or... not. Tau as BS 4+ is intended as a balance measure. It either makes you spend the points on markerlights to shoot better (but less guns) , or buy more guns but miss a lot. So their firepower won't completely break the fucking game.
Deal with it

>>54085010
Only if you play Power where they aren't costed properly. I think competitively they're lacklustre if you plan on taking them to tournaments.

Doesn't stop them from being cool tho

>>54085016
But that's not a venom.

>>54085006
no idea

probs space helmets made of goldfish bowls or some equal bullshit

>>54085002
>>54085003
>>54085015

The model is plastic so I'll stick with ethanol then, thanks for the tips.

>>54084988
Acetone is literally a plastic solvent. It will turn the plastic into goup. You'd get better results from dropping it into a bottle of plastic glue.

>>54085020
ADMECH.
Gimp robot walkers... for SCIENCE

>>54085023
Here ((you)) go.

How are specialist Eldar and Dark Eldar armies? Wraith lists, wrack lists etc

>>54085020
>ruling out all the loyalist space marines except for the special snowflake ones
Absolutely disgusting

>>54085020
start reading, let the fluff decide.

I've narrowed it down to exactly the same armies sans demons. But for me ad-mech fluff > the others, so just gonna trust the fluff there.

>>54085020
Which army do you think looks coolest?

Do you want to play melee, ranged, or a mix?

>>54085020
Play elves. They have a list called Ynnari that combines dark elves, clown elves, and magic elves into one army, so you can fuck around with 3 races instead of one.

>>54085020
Take necrons if you want to paint fast and learn the ropes

>>54083962
daily reminder that i won't buy primarines either way

>>54085027
Stormsurge is shooting at +1 to hit after the first turn usually

Riptide has a good niche with its high defenses, doesn't need BS3+

Right now Crisis Suits at BS4+ are strictly worse than Commanders with any weapon except flamers (because they auto hit)

>>54085058
ADMECH also got great current sculpts for their whole range. And you can even toe into FW for other great stuff once you stop being a poor fag. Plus they are strong but not OP- You won't make people hate to play you

>>54085054

I just don't wanna play the generic army, really.

>>54085058

This is after reading. Lots of cool armies.

>>54085061

I really like Chaos, for aesthetics, but then I can't choose a legion to rep.

>>54085064

I saw Ynnari, but I'd rather keep it together as one Eldar army, because Ynnari armies look like kinda a mess.

>>54085006
They do but they turn asteroids into bases with forcefields and shit that produce air and crap.

>>54085016
6 Fire Ports is pretty great if you bung Retributor Squad in there. Sadly you still get the -1 to hit problem (unless it's Heavy Flamers but that requires going in close).

>>54085087
I've bought enough for both of us.

>>54085098
Wouldn't the Orks produce their own crap though? Not sure if they need something else doing it.

>>54085097
>i don't want to play the generic army which is why i'll play the special snowflake version and the edgelord version of the generic army
If you're gonna rule out SM rule them all out. Stop being a little snowflake cunt.

>>54085020
JOIN THE GUARD
SEE THE UNIVERSE
Also two SC! AM boxes get you a very strong start for under $200 that gets you the feel of their Boots n Tread gameplay.

>>54085097
The silly thing is, you better off fielding Craftworld Eldar as Ynnari cos they have better bonus rules. You are not reqired to add others, and its better to get soulburst sometimes than advance+shoot (as you can anyway, just with -1). Tho its up to you.

Also, fuck generic marines.

>>54085097
In that case I heartily recommend spiky elves to start with, they have good variety in one faction. You get crazy naked gladiators, sinister pirates, space beasts, and mad science monsters in one army along with green goblin cosplayers and jetbike gangers.
Fielding them as Ynnari will allow you to dip into a different playstyle and other elves while still having use of your collection.

>>54085020
Play the clowns. Make people fear your smile, the colour pink and the word blitz.

>>54085027
I think XV8s could come with a minor price drop but I'm not grumbling too much, becoming T5 W3. What irks me somewhat is that plasma rifles are now flat out worse than plasma guns (and IG get them cheaper). I also hope that cheese quadfusion commanders don't result in fusions getting even more expensive.

>>54085097
Iron Warriors and run them with Astra Militarum artillery for Max fluff and cozy.

Am I wrong to think Betrayal at Calth might be the best IW stater due to all the Mk4?

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So my gaming group buddies are starting to consistently field one LoW and plays 2500pt games. I'm debating getting a heirodule I can rush at baneblades etc. Thoughts on which of the two I should get?

>inb4 scythed looks better

>>54085016
Considering it hasn't been produced in years, I wouldn't say the sisters have them either.

>>54085131
Addendum: if you want jetbikes or hellions, Gangs of Commorragh is a fantastic deal: you get 6 bikes and 10 hellions for less than a set of 3 bikes.

>>54085148
vs baneblade ? scythed + swarmlord for tyrn 1 autowin charge vs baneblade.

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>>54085110
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT.

>>54085120

I really do like guard, but after fucking around with them on battlescribe, building an army for them just feels like forever adding new stuff just as drops in a bucket.

>>54085126
>>54085131

Both flavours of Eldar do seem cool, but then I run into other issues with both. Craftworlds are mostly not plastic and fuck not-plastic. Dark Eldar are mostly plastic, but look like HELL to paint.

>>54084602
yeah the problem is that morale isnt balanced at all so all youre going to see is 1 model vehicle units or 30 man ork blobs because small units of say koptas or buggies get raped by morale

>>54085160
Which units in particular? I have both flavours of elf and some dark angels, had more paint pains with the muhreens to be desu with you, senpai.

>>54085095
the only thing FW has are secutarii and ordinatus

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>54085160
>>54085020

Space Wolf player here; I'd honestly go for guard if I were you.

Space Marines are a bad area right now IMO; especially with all the Primaris models being introduced and the probable squatting of manlet marines in the next edition. Best to wait a few months until the Primaris releases slow to a halt.

>>54085174

All of them, really. So many little tiny armour pieces to be highlighted.

>>54085020
dont let a lack of funds stop you from choosing an army, you would regret it later

>>54085151
I have two and chinaman has them still. Sadly the fucked up version of FW. (The ass is melting in the FW) but nothing that dremel and green stuff can't fix.

Or just make your own, like the old dogs of 40k did back in the golden age of 40k.

>>54085095
What good shit does Forgeworld admech have? All I'm seeing is Secutarii upgrade sets and the Ordinatus cannons.

>>54085213
>Golden Age
>Vomit

No thanks, lad.

>>54085223
All their 30k shit is due to to get 40k rules soon.

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>>54085223
Titans

>>54085241
>he didn't play during 3rd and 4th

Oh you poor sod. I bet you can make a simply conversion like replacing a bolt pistol with a plasma pistol

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Unsurprisingly the rule here isnt very clear. Does the leviathan have to take a melee arm or can it take two guns? In one bullet point it says you can replace both claws with drills but on the one about the guns it says no such thing.

>>54085188
>>54085160
>>54085020

Chaos Space Marines.

Most of their models are plastic, they're easy to paint, and they weren't ruled out of your original list.

>>54085188
Conventional edge highlighting kills the elf. You can do it on vehicles, by infantry armour will look plastic with it. It's .2 brush and wash city.

>>54085160
>Dark Eldar are mostly plastic, but look like HELL to paint.

The models are so nice though, you want to paint them nicely. Takes time but really makes the modelling and painting side fun, so many variations and options.

>>54085250
To me it sounds like you can replace both with guns but you can't take the same gun twice.

>>54085246
>Reddit and Memey

>>54085249
Oh but I did. That's exactly my point. I made a Chaos Predator out of a Leman Russ and Chaos Rhino when I changed my mind. I converted my bikes to all have monster heads coming out the front. I converted my Slaaneshi Daemon Prince (really really badly) to have the sword implanted in the ground.

I know all about it and modern 40k has a bajillion more bits to play with, all of a higher quality and more detail.

>>54085258

CSM were definitely one of my higher choices, but I really can't decide on a legion, or if to dedicate to a single god.

>>54085223
Knights

>>54085290
Why dont you make a list of the legions like you did with armies?

>>54085290
Go undivided and take a little of everything

>>54085290
Go full Black Crusade and just paint up and run a little bit from each legion?

>>54085160
Think of it as infinite room to expand! You could always use another Russ or an Earthshaker or a few more lasguns. The hobby will never get dull!

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>>54085223
try looking under the "Mechanicus tab" you mouth breather

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anyway i need to bitch a moment about Admech, because I can. Having played them pretty heavily since first coming out I can safely say in current 8th edition they are absolute ass after playing, watching and reviewing a good number of matches. Without a second wave of models or updated rules they will be towards the bottom of the rankings. Note- i'm speaking about them purely as a stand alone army, not combined arms. here's a few reasons why

>Skitariii infantry lost 6+ FNP
>Vanguard wound on 6 = 3 downgraded to 6=2. offense reduced by 1/3
>Arc rifles nerfed hard
>Still no transports
>No transports and lost formations to deepstrike
>No transports and Skitarii lost Scout
>Destroyers now incredibly expensive
>Expensive and monobuild HQ choices
>Canticles beaten to death with a fucking hammer

Onagers and the electropriests are the only units to really come out unscathed but they are not enough, not by miles, to hold the army up in any meaningful sense.

>but FW anon!

most faggots don't permit FW in tournaments and even in casual games unless you know the people somewhat.

>>54085020
>Rules out Orks due to cost
>Keeps Daemons

Protip: Not every Ork army is 100 boyz, and if it is they are dirt cheap on ebay along with most other Ork shit. Plus you're supposed to kitbash and convert your own models which saves a lot of money especially with vehicles and sometimes heroes

Daemons have almost zero money-saving beyond proxying BoNurgle / FleshHounds. almost every unit is an expensive mono-pose model, the only "trick" is buying one Nurgling box and stretching it to make 9 bases

>>54085301

That's a damn fine idea.

>Emperor's Children - Cool guys, Slaanesh is interesting, downside is sonic weaponry is all not plastic.

>Iron Warriors - Easy to paint, but requires a lot of tanks etc, which I'm kinda trying to avoid.

>Night Lords - Really fucking hard to paint lightning bolts.

World Eaters - BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD owns, but Berzerker models are older than time itself.

Death Guard - New, amazing models. Snowflake sense kinda tingles when I realize everyone will be playing them though.

Thousand Sons - Not really into the psyker-heavy style, plus hard to paint.

Black Legion - Cool colour scheme, gives an excuse to use any model available, black armour is hard as fuck to paint.

Word Bearers - Easy to paint, interesting fluff, but don't really want to mix daemons and CSM.

Alpha Legion - One of the coolest legions, but lots of cultist models needed, and CSM would be hard to paint.

>>54085344

Well, I really fucked up that greentext.

>>54085334

But everything in the ork army is cheap, pointswise, which means I'd have to buy a lot of them anyway.

>>54085173

Its balanced in the middle for people who aren't WAACgaming. That has been the order of things for WH40k since forever.

>>54085334
Why not just glue tufts of grass and dirt to base and say its a nurgle demon? Just spraypaint it something greenish-brown if its not that color to begin with.

>>54085344
why stick to just one legion?

can do the colors per squad, say they're all going in together to fuck up some shit

>>54085367

I like seeing an entire unified army. One army painted in a single scheme looks great.

>>54085384
Black Legion would be my vote since it is Undivided and you can play them all pretty fluffy.

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>>54085344
Iron Warriors best legion

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>>54085344
The real issue with Iron warriors is their favored units (Oblits, Vindicators, Daemon engines Warpsmiths) are all Average to dog shit tier now, so if you're playing fluffy they kinda suck

Such is life for the sons of 'Pert

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>>54085424
But we have basilisks and Heresy era artillery now

>>54085344
>Emperor's Children - Cool guys, Slaanesh is interesting, downside is sonic weaponry is all not plastic.
Sonic weaponry may not be plastic but 3rd party bits are easy to get. I suggest spellcrow, espoecially if you want to more rock inspired look.

>Iron Warriors - Easy to paint, but requires a lot of tanks etc, which I'm kinda trying to avoid.
My legion of choice, but if you dont want vehicles dont bother.

>Night Lords - Really fucking hard to paint lightning bolts.
They arnt that hard to paint desu, you just need a decent brush. I think saint duncan has a tutorial for them.

>World Eaters - BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD owns, but Berzerker models are older than time itself.
FW has you covered on that, but you pay a premium.

>Death Guard - New, amazing models. Snowflake sense kinda tingles when I realize everyone will be playing them though.
Tons of people will be picking up deathguard, but a lot are also trying to ditch their models they got in DI so you can get them cheap. Get lots of poxwalkers though, they are amazing.

>Thousand Sons - Not really into the psyker-heavy style, plus hard to paint.
I dont have much to say here, seems like they arnt your thing.

>Black Legion - Cool colour scheme, gives an excuse to use any model available, black armor is hard as fuck to paint.
GW's marines look terrible because of age, and that is the type that black legion uses. Normally I suggest geting a calth or prospero box and some decals/fw shoulder pads.

>Word Bearers - Easy to paint, interesting fluff, but don't really want to mix daemons and CSM.
You dont have to mix demons in, though it definitely helps with fluff.

>Alpha Legion - One of the coolest legions, but lots of cultist models needed, and CSM would be hard to paint.
You need lots of cultist yes, but that's not such a terrible thing. I would suggest getting some cadians and mixing the bits with some reavers and cultists. You will get a lot of milage out of kitbashing those. Painting is not too bad desu

>>54085273
>>54085250
I read it more as "You can replace one of W with one of X,Y,Z and that;s it."

It's why Chaos players are pissy at Loyalists because theirs specifically lets them replace both arms with guns if wanted.

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I have a small army of IG and want to add some meele power to it, without going full blob.

I'm thinkng of Crusaders+ Priest or maybe Sisters of Silents (Vigilators). The later mostly because I love both their fluff and the models.

Good or bad Idea ?

>>54085446
I checked and youre right, the loyalist version does specifically state that you cant replace both and that you lose an attack each time while the chaos version does not. I suppose that means only one gun. Im cool with that, I just wish they would outright state it.

>>54085479
...silence
pls excuse my gibberish

>>54085327
1. Cawl was an autistic guy who liked to do naughty shit. Girlyman ordered him to carry on being autistic.

2. Emperor spent 10 years or so making Space Marine. Cawl spent 10,000 years. Using the Emperor's information and stockpiles. What a surprise he managed to do it, especially when he had a huge part of Mars dedicated to him.

3. Boxnaughts were just fucked up variants ANYWAY and were needed for their ease of production.

>>54085479
The SoS are too weak desu.

>>54085479
Can you take them in units greater than 5? Because low model count is really going to hurt you with them. Also they NEED a transport to move quickly and protect them.

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>>54085097
Do Grey Knights. All fagging aside, it's a cool army with fantastic models (excluding a certain babycarrier, though it's grown on me) and due to low model count it's pretty cheap. Plus, you've got a fuckton of ways to kill stuff.

>shooting is fantastic anti-horde due to massed storm bolters, and the flamers and psycannons are good too
>melee is godly, Paladins can spit out a mountain of attacks with falchions, and literally every weapon does at least D3 damage
>mindbullet phase can make your damage go waaay up, or you can go old school and just delet enemies with stacks of mortal wounds
>you can beat literally any daemon list. This is too cool to pass up.
>Dreadknight isn't an autotake, I like this fact.

Here's my basic list, this'll all cost you around 350$ for the WHOLE ARMY. Which is cool.
>grand master- hammer, storm bolter
>ancient (I use a converted chaplain model
>apothecary
>4 paladins
>10-man Terminators, combat squadded
>2 6-man Interceptor squads
>a pair of twin lascannon razorbacks to ferry them in
>venerable dread with lascannons
>Dreadknight with psycannon (though the psycannon may not be worth it imo)

I've played 4 games and only lost one, they're a powerful army that rewards a fast, aggressive play style but can go south quickly if you don't play it smart. And the nice part is (though I think that's a pretty optimized list), you can do whatever you want, pretty much everything in the army kicks ass- everything really is badass if you know how to use it.

Join the OG brotherhood of steel, we're waiting for you.

>>54085479
Add some Catachans with Straken. Make them fear the Devils

>>54085157
>>54085148
This, basically. Scythed is the best unit for a Swarmlord Torpedo and gives you a threat range of 36+3d6 drop lowest in inches. Should be able to launch on a superheavy and lock it up and probably maul it to death too.

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>>54085479
Bullgryns my guy

>>54085479
Crusaders+Priest are the better option both price and effectiveness-wise.

>>54085020
You probably want Necrons. They're cheap and good, and cool.

>>54085509
>gay knights
>any space marine faction being described as "cool"

I'm wondering if, with all the hordes going around now and templates gone, the time of the humble Tactical Squad has finally come. Bolters are fairly decent at killing lightly armored T3 after all.

>>54085327
Mechanicus is fine, bro. I've played a handful of matches against good to great lists and have done just fine, didn't feel disadvantaged or anything.

That being said, you're forced to do Cawl+heavy guns around him+Skitarii to eat charges, which isn't what I envision for Skitarii

So yeah, they're not underpowered or anything, but the changes back to radcarbines, arc rifles (just make dD6 to vehicles I think would work), limited HQ shit (fluff is tech-priests in orbit, I want my tech-priests in orbit! just give back doctrina!), and waaay too expensive destroyers/breachers I'm all on board with fixing.

Tbh I just want a special take on buff bubbles where you do shit like doctrina, or select an enemy and get +1 to hit, but -1 to hit other stuff, ya know, shit that makes it feel like the priests are evaluating targets and controlling the flow of battle from above

>>54085567
Pity Primarines do it better, plus flamers are still superior against hordes both because of average 3.5 hits and autohit overwatch.

>>54085567
You're going to want a solid core of troops to capable of chucking out lots of shots/attacks, this holds true for pretty much every army.
So yeah, troops are the new knights.

>>54085600
Crusader squads do it way better, though it's a pity BT don't have canon successors to make your dudes.

>>54085549
>literal halfassed terminator ripoffs are cool
>but the monastic order of daemonhunters enhanced by mythic science and warp-born power dedicated to giving their last full measure to defend mankind from the terrors beyond isn't
Shit taste desu, though I actually love crons too. All factions except Tau ;^) are cool

>>54085609
>grey knights are cool
This site is 18+. And Matt Ward is banned from here.

>>54085344
You don't need to rep a particular legion, your dudes could be renegades or a warband made of traitor marines from different legions.

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>all that rumor of the emperor being dead in M42 because of improper redacted placement
>turns out custodians are just ordered to leave the emperors palace and terra to participate in the indominus crusade
>literally nothing

why is imperium such secretfags? pretty sure chaos knows what up on what theyre doing before it happens

>>54085609
The IG? They're cool. They're just a mortal man, holding the line with nothing but a flashlight and balls.

Space Marines? They're just a collection of gary stues who exist at the expense of the other factions, both lore wise (taking up all the spotlight because shitty writing), and game wise (taking up all the model releases).

Also, Gay Knights are a bunch of heretics. Their faith in the emperor is clearly lacking, if they need to annoit themselves with the blood of the actually faithful Sisters (another cooler faction) to withstand a little chaos incursion.

>>54085629
>rumors about the emperor being dead

No one believed that, and on top of that it was easy to tell it was just the wording phrased in a way to make it appear like that. We'd know if the emperor died, because the astronomicon would stop functioning

>>54085618
GK as a concept are cool. GK as Ward and GW have written them are faggy.

>>54085344
Your Dudes up your own warband and do what you think looks the coolest.

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>>54085636
I don't get why people always think Space Marines are Mary Sues. They were genetically engineered super soldiers and the only people who talk them up is the Imperial Cult, because it's their job to make sure the common man has hope and believes in something. Even in their own chapters you find out quickly that they are anything BUT Mary Sues, because of any rampant gene seed mutation, or treachery from the Warp Influence.

>>54085629
>TERRARETALIATES
I fucking hate this spacing shit they've been doing. It's even in the fucking rule books now too. Gotta re-read everything twice over to make sure it's not some new madeup tard word they threw in.

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>>54085662
Pretty sure it's just a spacing bug from the PDF formatting.

>>54085597
Do they, though? They quite a bit more expensive.

What's a good way to build around pedro kantor? I'd think slow punchy units like assault centurions.

However I am having trouble making that list work

>>54085676
Could be and I hope so.

>>54085678
Yes because -1ap cuts conscript saves in half and removes ork saves entirely, and they have better range.

>>54085499
You can put up to 10 SoS in one squad and they got their own rhino

>>54085511
That would also be an option. I dont own any jungle boys though.

>>54085535
No god damn Abhumans in my Guard, heretic.

>>54085547
>>54085494

I know they are not that good unless your enemy has lots of psykers.
But 2A, S4 and -3AP hitting on 3+ with W3 D is also not that bad.
Their lack of SpecWeap (all of SoS) sucks though.

>>54085636
>>54085618
Nah dudes, read Grey Knights. The Ward shit is 100% retarded, but Ben Counter's depiction of a small elite of men who know they're doomed to die but face off anyways is pretty awesome. It's in the MEGA, one of the best 40k books out there. Dark Adeptus too

Is Vassal40k still fine for 8th edition? Obviously the in game dice rolls wont work for wounding and stuff but other than that. Is there some sort of chatroom type program that has dice rolls that isn't an IRC bot?

>>54085685
Maybe because slow punchy units always need a transport or other way to reach the enemy in order to be effective.
Shooty units that can also punch seems a better option.

>>54085657
Because like any mary sue:

1. They exist to be an author avatar. It's just GW's male power fantasies.
2. They've got plot armor.
3. They detract from every other character/faction's story by centralizing it around them. There's a reason xenos are considered NPC races, and it's the existence of space marines. Take space marines out of the picture (both loyalist and chaotic varieties), and the setting gets 200% cooler, because all the other factions are finally allowed to develop outside the context of space marines hate-fucking each other.
3. 40k is a rare example where being a mary sue has consequences outside of literature. Every other release is fucking space marines. Just like space marines monopolize the plot to the exclusion of better factions, they monopolize the production line to the exclusion of better factions.

I understand this is because space marines are popular, but that doesn't change the fact that space marine fans are basically the lowest common denominator among 40k fans.

>>54085713
Vassal40k still works, but all the cool kids are using Tabletop Simulator these days

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>>54085719
That sure is a lot of projecting

>>54085720
does TTS have all the models? can I run Kantor in TTS or do I need to counts-as?

>>54085719
>Take space marines out of the picture (both loyalist and chaotic varieties), and the setting gets 200% cooler
disagree. marines of all flavors are the only good thing about 40k I don't read the fluff & just like power armor minis[/spoilers]

>>54085739
It has most models, and no idea if it has kantor. You can probably just counts-as though.

>>54085720
The cool kids are fucking retarded, as usual.

>>54085719
>Take space marines out of the picture (both loyalist and chaotic varieties), and the setting gets 200% cooler

I have never thought of this before, but fuck me if you're not right.

>>54085720
Me and my friend aren't cool kids I guess. We're going to play a game of 40k today using 8th rules. Tabletop sim seemed like it was far more unwieldy for 40k than vassal based on the videos I watched of people using it. Its just so easy to set up custom maps and shit in Vassal and create squads of units/mark them etc.

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Two units of 6 nerds each in a Valkyrie for Smite sniping?
Are Wyrdvanes at all viable?

>>54085720
and with VR if you can

>>54085717
Genuinely curious, what falls into that category? Devcents are garbage in cc, I have some cataphractii but they are even slower

>>54085755

Like, it makes the IG way more prominent, and the Sisters/Inquisition the elite for the Imperium.

Does anyone else wish there were more powers to choose from?

I'd like it more if there was like a spectrum of powers.

One long line of psychic abilities that any Psyker could manifest from. Obviously every faction could have their own set that's specific to them.

To me every Psyker should be able to throw bolts of energy, telekinetic crush/throw/pull. When you get to things like Daemons they're obviously going to have abilities specific to their god.

Anyone else feel very limited in terms of the powers given?

Warp Time on Bullgryn would be hilarious.

>>54085756
I agree, I prefer Vassal, it's so much quicker and cleaner to use, even if it's not as pretty, but there's definitely a much larger following for TTS these days.

>>54085782
No. I'm glad psychic powers are limited this edition. The psychic phase should complement the rest of the game, not dominate it.

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>>54083942
Got a 50 power tournament coming up, on a scale of 1-10 how much of a dick would i be to plonk pic related onto the table?

>>54085755
No, no he is not.

I wish there was a unique (humanoid) genestealer to give the 'nids some more personality. Like, it could be a interplanetary missionary promoting alien infestations. Or something, as long as it can actually talk for the nids (and is allowed to not be recycled as long as it is fulfilling that purpose).

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>>54085784
Also I'm retarded I forgot how you enter the hit/wound rolling, you can totally use it for 8th edition.

>>54085799
Do it. Punish them for using power levels (renegade knights are also good in this regard)

>>54085719
>better factions

That's your opinion.

>>54085782
Every psyker can do that. It's called Smite. I hope they expand the lists, but only slightly and only faction specific ones to maintain distinctive feel of each discipline. I like it a lot more than generic 'lores' of previous editions.

>>54085058

I want to play Dark Mechanicum

I guess it's just play Admech rules and paint them up Chaosy?

>>54085799
You wouldn't be a dick but you would be a loser.

>>54085816
>he guys, you should let my hive fleet devour you! Itll be great!
Yea, its not like thats a completely fucking retarded idea or anything

>>54085834
Bug shamans exist and somehow work, though the guy would have a lot of audience overlap with Nurgle.

>>54085676
>entire army
but..
Custodes don't do armies

Does Harker really buff CATACHAN and not INFANTRY? Isnt he better than a Master of Ordinance in thay case since theres no range limit and hell also effect Conscripts?

>>54085832
how would i be one but noth ther other?

>>54085781
>>54085755
>>54085719

Better idea: Only Chaos get Space Marines. After the Heresy, Imperium decided they were a failed experiment and disposed of them.

So Chaos still get their terrifying inhuman elites.

>>54085855
By losing the tournament with an inefficient army.

>>54085774
Dreadnoughts, indomitus or tartaros terminators, sternguard veterans, shooty company veterans

>>54085782
Once the codexes start rolling out we should be getting more psychic power options. They also said those will once more have things like Relics, and also Faction specific Strategems

>>54085834
I think what he means is he wants a Magos to know full well what the nids are and how horrifying they are, but to be devoured is to join the eternal hive mind and add their voices to the everlasting chorus. That would be neat instead of it being "lol stupid cultists don't know they'll get ate" that they are now

>>54085818
seems thats its fucking standard in GWs now

If I have a chainsword and, say a power sword, on a 1a model, do I get a choice of 1 attack with power+1 attack with chain or 2 chain attacks. Or do I have a choice of 1 power attack or 2 chain attacks?

>>54085864
well obviously the rest of my army would be something, havent got to that bit yet

>>54085892
Doesn't matter, you're using over half your power level with one of the most inefficient units in the game.

>>54085891
1 power, 1 chain, or 2 chain

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Can you sell items from your guys to use the points elsewhere, in HoR Kill Team?

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>>54085828
And Smite to me is pretty bland. Manipulating my units or my enemies is fun. A flat D3 or d6 mortal wounds is like pic related.

>>54085792
It doesn't have to dominate, I just like having some variety. It's like you mean to tell me that every Marine Librarian will only ever know how to do those 3 powers listed...

>>54085899
>most inefficient units in the game.
wel now i know you are full of shit

>>54085856
Well then you're basically left with WHFB in space with CSM as the Norse, which I guess was the point of the setting, but still.

>>54085909
Part of me want to make a chadmarine BT and mount a bikini wearing model on top.

So anyone knows about a bikini miniature model that could fit on top of a Chadmarine?

>>54085891
The bonus chainsword attack is made in addition to a model's normal attacks. And you can choose which weapon a model uses for each of its own attacks it makes. So with a A 1 model with powersword and chainsword, it can either make 1 powersword attack and 1 chainsword attack, or 2 chainsword attack. A model with 2 attacks could make 2 powersword attacks and 1 chainsword attack, 1 powersword attack and 2 chainsword attacks, or 3 chainsword attacks.

>>54085911
It's the same reason a demolisher cannon only shoots as far as a bolter: gameplay

>>54085768
No idea.

I have 8 psykers and no idea what to do with them

>>54085913
>30 power level
>can't even kill 1/10th of its power level in conscripts per turn.
>7 inch move, so anything that it could kill can just kite it, or be set up behind a screen of conscripts (or equivalent).

>>54085938
Don't take all your psykers at once?

GAMES WORKSHOP OF SLAANESH APPEARS AND IT'S PLANNING TO SQUAT YOUR MANLET ARMY.

CAN YOU STOP IT?

ROLL 1D6

3+ TO HIT

5+ TO WOUND

4+ ARMOUR SAVE

GO GO GO

>>54085957
>he fell for the conscript meme
oh lad...

>>54085911
Shoving a guy away at this level of abstraction is bland as well, and not a lot of psykers can just reposition 30 fucking orks. Not would moving them make more sense than just murdering as many as you can in one mind bullet.
I was more variety, but I want it constrained to factions and maintaining that faction's psychic flavour, rather than go back to elves summoning Slaaneshi demons off of a generic lore of space magic.

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>>54085856
That is brilliant idea to get rid of the guys which entire setting was conceived for, guardfag.

>>54085971
You're a moron if you don't think screening units are a thing.

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Played my first games of 8th edition last night. We did sort of a narritive matched play with my loyalist marines against his "renegade" marines. 500pts each patrol mission. At the end of turn 4 I brought in about 300 pts of orks forcing us to temporarily ally with whatever we had left. Was a lot of fun and fairly easy to grasp the new playstyles.

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>>54085925
hasslefree minis has plenty of lewd sculpts for you to use

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Are any of the artillery worth their points for IG? Manticore seems like it won't make points back after firing all 4 missiles, while deathstrike on average causes 6 mortal wounds if it gets to fire.

>>54085977
Some people just don't know that the only reason there is 40k is because of space marines

So guys, Tzaangors or Cultists?
On the one hand, 5++rr1's
On the other hand, autoguns and/or vastly cheaper in cash, power and pts.

>>54085880
Yeah, something like that. Maybe a Changeling-esque shapeshifting guy which is sent to infiltrate societies which are particularly resistant to infection?

>>54085989
I guess those people make guardsman rape dioramas.

Guys, what's the best box to ammass a big number of AM coscripts?
Either GW or third-party

Who wins in a conscript-spam vs boyz-spam brawl?

>>54085989
>>54085977
That isn't relevant though. Space marines then may have been fine. I don't really know or care, gramps. Space marines now are not.

Currently making my very first babby's first 40k army, namely some fluffy combined arms T'au. No commander spam bullshit or mecha bigger than my crisis suit team. Can anyone recommend the sort of magnets you should use if you want to be able to change weapons on models (for instance, changing burst cannons to fusion blasters or vice versa on stealth suits, or the many combinations of loadout possible on crisis suits, or even just changing strike teams to breacher teams by changing to pulse blasters) and any general tips on using them?

>>54085782
Codexes will have more powers

>>54086008
Conscripts: half the price

>>54085995
I'd say cultists.

Cheap waves of autogun infantry to plink a few wounds off squads seems better than more expensive kamikaze fodder that may not even reach their lines.

>>54083973
Keep >>/pol/ in gas chambers.

>>54085995
Tzaangors also have S 4 T 4 instead of the cultists' 3

>>54085988
Basilisk just shit on whatever they get to hit. I usually take down a single Flyrant or Tervigon a turn when mine go off with a MoO

>>54086011
Tell that to the overwhelming majority of 40k players who play space marines, of course

>>54086008
Conscripts

Boyz have terrible saves

>>54086008
boyz will mince them in close combat

>Alpha Legion the only """traitor""" legion not to make an appearance under the Forces of Chaos section of the rulebook

What did GW mean by this?

>>54086049
What's an alpha legion?

>>54086049
sekrit loyalists of course

>>54086055
a legion of chad marines.

>>54086017
>>54086029
>5+ to wound

>>54086063
TWICE the models
W
I
C
E

>>54086008
Conscripts, half price, better saves, orders, more dakka. Even better with commissar.

>>54085995
If you're playing TSons, Tzaangors. Otherwise Cultists.

>>54086026
The overwhelming majority of americans voted for Hillary or Trump over Lawrence Lessig. The majority is wrong, most of the time.

>>54086063
doesnt really matter

conscripts can gun stuff down even on 6+ to wound

when you shoot 1000 times per turn you obliterate almost anything

the only things that can survive 1000 guard shots are models with T6+, a 2+ save, 10+ wounds, and at least one -1 hit debuff

>>54086011
You're right, Space Marines are better than fine.
They are essential. They alone keep 40k aloft.

>>54086089
>lessig
>literally fucking who

>>54086089
Tell that to GW's shareholders. Maybe they are better off gone in your headcanon but marines are the #1 driver of 40k sales.

>>54086089
>dropped out a full year before voting day
>literally just an obama puppet
How about no

>>54086001
the 5-man push-fit cadian box. It's cheaper per-model than the multi-part cadians or anything a 3rd party makes

>>54086105
maybe if other armies got regular releases then they might get more sales?

When small factions got releases (I'm lookong at gsc and admech) their sales were through the roof. Even if people aren't buying all the new models, the constant stream of SM releases drum up hype and sales.

>>54086001
>thinking about making significant purchases before the codex drops

>>54086124

Thx anon

>>54086124
>an entre army of 500+ models all with the same pose and look
jesus christ how horrifying

>>54086152
If you're gonna be running 500+ dudes in a single army it's just gonna happen that way.

>>54086152
No think about how great that is. Each squad is made entirely of models with a single pose. That way you can tell which is which.

>>54086140
>maybe if other armies got regular releases then they might get more sales?

kek

Kek

KEK

>>54086152
They have THREE poses in that box.

>>54086161
I just threw up in my mouth a little.

>>54086167
Thank you for your intelligent contribution

>>54086171
Oh, my applogies
> 200 of each clone trooper in a 600 model army
so much better

>>54086185
Loyal
To
A
Fault

>>54086185
If you think about it, his post was actually quite intelligent. He managed to convey his thoughts using only 9 letters. How many letters did you need to make your point?

>>54086105
Bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, considering GW constantly refuses to sell things that have been proven to sell well. For example, every release of anything even remotely related to plastic sisters sells out nearly instantly, but GW still refuses to release a full plastic range.

It's entirely possible that Space Marines are the biggest seller purely because they're the only thing sold anymore, and GW (who we can agree is completely incompetent) refuses to do market research to see what actually would sell.

>>54086122
>>54086099
How does it feel being political plebes, dooming the country to collapse? How does it feel to have an attention span limited to either what russian shills or late night tv hosts tell you?

>>54086203
>every release of anything even remotely related to plastic sisters sells out nearly instantly
>citation needed

>>54086174
>>54086189
Okay even better, you just get some black, white, red, and blue spray and you can have each group of 50 have a unique combination of pose and color.

Its like gw planned this.

>>54086215
I take it by your post that you weren't around when Celestine was released. How's summer break going?

>>54086203
I had no idea there were so many fucking libtards on this site.

>>54086203
I work in local courthouse and I can say safely that YES illegal immigrants are indeed a problem and are causing society to decline through drug trafficking and crime. The Truth ain't pretty, so I voted for the one guy who actually fucking pointed out how horrible things were getting

>>54086185
My point is you're a retard. GW is literally the only company with this many ranges. 15 ranges in each setting. Both WHFB and Sci-Fi (or Sci-Fantasy if you're herpdederp autistic). Do you realise how long this shit takes?

That's excluding the models they DON'T release, like the Squat models from a few years back. Or the Foot Knights for Bretonnia (though they did get Total War versions and renamed Foot Squires).

You're basically going

>Microsoft should sell Linux and Macs and if they did they'd get more sales

Why? GW is a business and a business doesn't take risks. There is a reason SoB won't ever get an update that matters. The fact they've now been renamed yet AGAIN is tantamount to that.

>>54086203

>How does it feel... dooming the country to collapse?

Loving it. Let the amerifats burn

>>54086203
>muh russhuh
What's it like knowing that your retarded russhuh narrative was just CNN bullshitting the entire time?
>muh internet equality
>a literal referendum (ie. cuckold) president
Top fucking kek you could support Bernie Sanders and still be less reddit than this post

>>54086202
Well fuck, can't argue with that.

>finally painted my army
>go to local games workshop to try a game
>do a small match

aaaand wow that was extremely boring

>>54085250
if you think that is unclear then you are retarded im afraid, every profile for stuff like dreads and tanks is worded like that

>>54086233
I work in a local Supreme court and I disagree. I have the high ground.

>>54086250
>he actually plays games
You don't belong here.

>made a few army lists
>just noticed the part that said "does not include wargear"

So let me get this straight. A chaos land raider is more then 239 points right?

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Somehow /40kg/ always turns into /pol/ at some point ...

>>54086252
No anon sweetie, thats a food court. Common mix up

>>54086266
Blame the retarded redditcuck shilling for his pathetic dropout candidate.

>>54086252
Then you underestimate my power.

>>54086263
Oh yes, a lot more

>>54086250
What did you play?

>>54086277
i feel like people like yourself are more of a problem here

>>54086074
I am playing Thousand Sons, but because tags are dumb I can just take cultists and an apostle in the same detatchment.

>>54086024
And a better save, and Ld.
But is it worth the 2ppm?
30 dudes will be almost a dark apostle in price.

Also, one squad of 30 or many squads o' ten?

>>54086266
Does anybody else here take a shit and think "That's about the right size dick I could take"?

>>54086263
Yeah. It's retarded as fuck. Sadly mongs will defend this with

>b-b-but I don't wanna pay for default wargear :(((
>Oh, so you're not going to run ANY units with default wargear?
>....Anon?
>S-SHUT UP RETARD STICK TO YOUR POWER POINTS OMG UR SO RETARDED IF YOU CAN'T WORK IT OUT UR DUMB LOL :((

>>54086012
Please kind anons you're my only hope. I mean not really but still.

>>54086306
>people who call out the random idiot who brought in politics to the conversation are the problem
And look at how I know you're in the same league as him. Eat shit faggot.

>>54086250
Did you not play the game before buying in?

>>54086243
>top intelligence officials have testified under oath that russia was influencing the election with shilling
>MUH FAKE NEWS

How cucked do you have to be to support trump even after he's broken every campaign promise and sponsored an even WORSE version of obamacare?

>>54086233
Immigration is a problem, but corruption in washington is even worse. Think about it this way: If your compiler in a code project is compromised, you can't trust any code it compiles for you. If the legislation is compromised due to money buying out the electoral process, then you can't trust any legislation it gives you, including legislation authorizing a wall. Trump didn't promise enough reform on this front, and he hasn't followed through on his promises anyways. Washington is still corrupt as fuck, and rather than drain the swamp he's brought in more goldman sachs staff to his administration.

>>54086259
>>54086295
Think I'll either stick to painting (Which I do enjoy, despite the price gouging) or sell my minis once I've painted them.

>>54086297
>did you not play the game before buying in?
No not particularly. Only small games with a few units, but I figured it would be better once I got my own army.

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S-STOP IT! STOP TALKING ABOUT /pol/! PLEASE! ;_;

>>54086227
It's hard to say Celestine counts because we don't know whether people wanted her or the others in the box.

>>54086323
Look, I hate Trump. But can we please keep that shit out of here. I come here to get away form that shit.

>>54086323
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE
Don't mind me just dropping this video here of a CNN producer admitting that the russhuh story is bullshit.
>muh under oath
Shillary also mentioned a few things about emails under oath too and look at where that's gone.
>muh drumpfcare
Yeah, I don't like Trumpcare. Neither do I like his ties with Kushner or his Saudi arms deal or his Syrian airstrikes. Do I think he's the better choice than Shillary though? By fucking miles. Would I support him over that cuck of a candidate you're shilling? Without a fucking doubt kek

>>54086320
>guy shitposts
>retards like yourself go "duuuurrr ur wrong !!1! ME PROOV UR RWRONGG !!!11!1!", fueling the fire further rather than ignoring it
>also anyone who calls me out on it is on the other guy's side!
Classic. Fucking classic.

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Manchester GW may quite possibly have the most orky manager there is
>ugly neckbeard reflection
I'm traveling so shaving is hard

>>54086355
>strawman arguments
We get it, you browse /r/democrats. Now go back.

>>54086364
I see you mean Manchester, Australia.

>>54086345
Fair enough. All I wanted to do was show that the majority isn't right. I suppose I should have been more conscious of board culture and just mentioned that technically a majority of people (by a large margin) voted for hillary over trump, to get the trumpfags to just cede the point, but I hate hillary as much.

My mistake for including a mild political reference that I should have known trumpcucks just couldn't let go. Any insult to glorious leader must be punished amirite?

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>>54086364
I recognize that boss

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>>54086364
Another
>sideways pictures
I know, im currently looking for a rope but the models are still dope