Pathfinder General /pfg/

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>>54083891
Which saberface is this supposed to be, Lily?

About damn time

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>>54083906
Go to sleep or open your discord.

>>54083923
Dont worry we will be sure to report your shitty autist thread

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>>54083928
Gudako gets Major Artifacts for Valentine's Day. Also the City of Rome. Why haven't you become a Gudako yet?

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>>54083937
I am Gudako though.
>>54083928
fite me

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>>54083959
On the bed?

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>>54083968
Sure

What are your characters' biggest secrets? What have they done to keep them hidden, and what are they willing to do?

>>54083989
His biggest secret is that he's gay.
To hide this from others but mostly from himself, he tags with an all girl party and fucks them on the regular.

With Starfinder appearing to be more and more trash by the day, how should we scratch that science-fantasy itch? Can Paizo really handle juggling Pathfinder and Starfinder at once, or will both end up imploding, especially since the latter especially seems to market itself entirely through pandering, expecting political activists and literal faggots and nignogs to buy into the hobby?

>>54084014
>How different was Moscow/Russian aristocracy compared to typical structure during the times of Ivan the Terrible?
Not very, as far as I know. Why do you ask?

>>54083994
That's extremely fucking gay. And not in an in-character sense.

Taking into account I cant jump during a charge, I cant jump and attack a dude in midair, if I jump too high I fall prone when landing, etc, what can I do as a martial beyond full attack in a static position that doesn't require high levels and tons of feats?

>>54083891
DAILY REMINDER THAT ALL OF YOU ANIME PEDOPHILES ARE ABOUT TO GET KICKED OUT OF THE GAME YOU FUCKING OBSESS ABOUT ENOUGH TO SPAM SHIT GENERAL THREADS EVERY DAY

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LISTEN AND WEEP SHITLORDS PAIZO IS OUR COMPANY AND PATHFINDER IS OUR PRODUCT

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FINISHED

>>54084073

To know who would be the best kind of patron for a sellsword/mercenary/assassin.

>>54084088
holy shit

BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT

>>54084088
I... what? I don't understand this at all. How does your link have anything to do with anime?

>>54084093
Well Ivan the Terrible had a militarized police he used against the aristocracy and others deemed corrupt, althoug the name escapes me. They would probably make for an excellent group in a Not!-Russia to hire sellswords, especially for things that require plausible deniability.

>>54084115
He's multiple kinds of legitimately autistic. Just ignore him.

>>54084122

Yes, the Oprichnina, with their dog-heads and symbols brooms, and black robes. However, I'm thinking of something much earlier in his reign, around the time of his coronation.

>>54084054
At this point, I'm actually hoping that Paizo crashes and burns. There's enough Pathfinder to last a lifetime, and Paizo has gone from bad to worse in so many ways. With Pathfinder content running on empty and Starfinder turning out the way it is, Paizo doesn't really deserve to live as a company anymore.

>>54083906
It is Ilya as Lilly. We can expect that somewhere out there is Kuro waiting to molest her again.

>>54084154
Like I said, literally autistic. Go back to your trash thread and wallow there, instead of shitposting in this one. Shoo.

>>54084168
Are we talking actually a historical scenario here, or just Not!-Russia? Because if it's the latter, it shouldn't be a problem. The mercs and sellswords might even be a part of the burgoining Oprichina, either hired by an officer of Not!-Ivan, or becoming officers themselves.

Otherwise, dukes of various regions make excellent nobles. If memory serves, Russia was essentially divided into dukedoms.

>>54084219
>dukedom
Oblasts, I think.

>>54084236
>>54084219
Knyazhestvo*
Oblast is a Soviet era term.

>>54084265
...I want to say thank you, because I'm genuinely interested, but goddamn, how am I supposed to remember that?

>>54084276
A duke is called a Knyaz.

>>54084265
So.. Principality or Grand Duchy, I guess...?

>>54084105
>>54084088
>>54084054
>>54084181

Samefagging much?

>>54084293
>>54084276
Principalities work fine.
Knyaz is good for flavour, tho.
What I would suggest as a Russkie is:
A Knyaz rules over a Principality. (the female equivalent is Knyaginya).
A Grand Knyaz is the ruler of a Grand Principality and has other Knyaz's as vassals.

>>54084193
I approve.

>>54084154
>shitspammer
>claiming others are subhuman garbage
>telling others to be banned
Uh huh.

>>54084276
Play more Ck2.

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>>54084298

>>54084306
Thank you, Rusanon, I have learned stuff today.

>>54084446
Photoshopping much? Only took you 25 minutes.

>>54084472
If I had access to Photoshop in my current circumstances, it sure as hell wouldn't have taken 25 minutes to shoop that, had I had a reason to do so. But autist gon' autist, I guess.

>>54084054
The worst thing is thatthey've created a system perfect for expansion, and then decided to shit all over it. Starfinder could've been the Pathfinder-killer, but instead they turned it into a pandering mini-game where equipment (yes, starships are equipment) is tied to level advancement like a fucking boardgame lr MMO or something.

Makes me fucking what.

>>54084088
I kind of want to play in Queerland now, a setting where sexuality gives you magical powers.

>>54085271
So make a thread about Wraethuthu.

Because that is entirely the premise.

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Are Bloodforge sthein any good as a snek race?

>>54084219

Yes, Grand Duchies. However, by the time of Ivan's coronation most of them had already been absorbed or conquered by ascendant Grand Duchy of Moscow through force, marriage, or diplomacy with only a few independent ones remaining and the once mighty Great Horde defeated and broken into competing Khanates like Kazan, Crimea, Nogai, etc.

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I've played 4e, 5e and various d100 systems but have never tried 3.5 or PF. Is PF worth getting into at the moment and if so what should I start with?
Any recommended adventure paths?
Generally how lethal is PF compared to other d20 systems?
the magical realm thing is exaggerated right?

>>54085484
>Is PF worth getting into at the moment
No

>>54085484
>Is PF worth getting into
Be aware that asking here is not likely to give you good results for objectivity. People disillusioned with Paizo are the ones that congregate in these threads.

>Spoiler
Yes, yes it is. By a country fucking mile.

>>54085484
>Generally how lethal is PF compared to other d20 systems?
Rusty dagger shanktown is real.
Crits easily one-hit-kill at low levels.
And throughout all levels, the game keeps insane levels of rocket tag. The rule of thumb is that, if a martial can't kill a CR-appropriate monster in one turn, they're a worthless waste of character slot.

>>54085484
>mfw I thought PLD was a lewd game
>mfw I learned what people do in ACTUAL lewd games
The PLD girls are too pure

>>54085484
As far as adventure paths go, the ones that most people I've met say are the most fun are Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, Iron Gods (this one in particular gets a lot of praise), and Reign of Winter.

>>54085505
>one turn
Eh, It's usually two turns most of the time. If a monster has about 130 HP, it's generally acceptable to deal 100 damage to it; then a teammate can pick up where he left off, or finish it next turn.

>>54085522
>130 HP
What level would that generally be at? That sounds like a lot.

>>54085532
10-11

>>54085429
Currently playing one, and having a good time. Pretty solid.

>>54085532
Generally, that'll be around level 10-11 or so? It fluctuates dependent on how tough the monster in question is, but that's a good benchmark.

Nothing stops PCs from being similarly tough. An amped up kineticist can hit over 500 HP by level 20

>>54085484
>Is PF worth getting into at the moment and if so what should I start with?
If you have a group that has a guy or two who are experienced in rules heavy system of PF or the GM knows what he is doing, possibly. Otherwise you'd need to take a day or two to get to know the system and then think about it. It really comes down to "Am I willing to either embrace being an absolute monster and break every encounter by making the most optimal build or am I willing to ignore /pgg/ crying to me if I make a gimmick build whether or not it's really that good"

>Spoiler
Yes and no. Mature themes come by the boatloads, but usually they aren't completely off the rockers and tends to be more disturbing than arousing (see every goddamn encounter with succubi and erodaemons).

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Best AP featuring vampires?

>>54085484
>Spoiler

Yes and yes, if you're asking about the game itself or games around here. While it's true the setting has a lot of content which can be considered mature, it generally never gets brought up or displayed with prominence unless it can be played up for tragedy or horror. For example, the few times we encounter examples of interspecies sex is talking to the half-breed bastard of such a union and how that fucked up his mother's life, or the aftermath of extreme monster rape being a very, very vengeful Nymph ghost begging you to kill the hideous creatures that did this to her.

As for the people around here... Well, the rule of thumb is our bark's way, way worse than our bite. Unless you apply for one of the games that unabashedly focuses on smut and sex, games advertised as mature around here just means it's a game with sexy art and the occasional description of a booby.

>>54085578
None where they are central antagonist. Also the Crimson Court aren't vampires as much as the are a bunch of mutants or some fucked up qlippoth corruptions.

>>54085548
Why cant they cast spells that requires somatic components serpentine form?
They still have arms dont they?

>>54085578
>>54085594

Mighty Max did it first! Vampires are bloodsucking flies.

"The sun nourishes all things, even evil"

>>54084085
New to PF?, welcome, anon. Hope you enjoy your weak ass martials.

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9 HOURS MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

>>54085555
If you're depending on HP to be 'tough' that's a problem in and of itself.

>>54085773
Being tough in Pathfinder is a crapshoot regardless of how you go about it. Only attack nagations ala PoW counters actually work.

>>54084085
Welcome to Martials, nonmagical peasant. I cast Fly.

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Should I play archer, two handed or TWF Slayer?

>>54085694
>>54085594

Also room filled with blood-sucking larvas drinking blood (vampire younglings).

>>54085871
Eh
High touch AC from Monk shit and good decent saves will make you tougher than HP. If you go beyond the normal allowance, becoming an Incorp Undead as a Charisma caster and dipping Paladin makes you pretty fucking durable.

>>54085927

Switch Hitter.

>>54085927
The beauty of Slayer is you can play any of those things, and play it effectively.

>>54085931
Just apply http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/dread-wraith-sovereign-cr-3/ to your character and dip Paladin.

>>54085927
With the advent of the Orc Hornbow, my vote goes to an archer.

>>54085962
Is the Butcher's Axe out yet? I wanna beat up dexfags with my big, fat numbers!

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>>54086101
It is
It's a native 3d6/x3 weapon

>>54086101
it is!

It's 3d6, x3 crit, two-handed exotic weapon, weighs 25 pounds, and costs 65 gold. 19 strength is needed ti wield without penalty.

>>54086101
>>54086129
Stats can be found here: >>54079005

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>>54086101
What did we ever do to you.

Did the Starfinder mechanic preview happen yet?

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>lesbian couple's characters start dating in-game too
sigh...

just kidding, it's cute as fuck and they're not being disruptive with it

>>54086177
B-bad things!

Like mercilessly teasing me for being easy to do things to because of slightly slow reaction times! Don't bully your STRgirl!

>>54086139
Cool. Is the exotic weapon proficiency worth it for it?

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>>54086234
>worth it?
Yes. Oh yes. Imagine a Vital Strike build with this nonsense.

>>54083891
>Lily
>Excalibur

This shit triggers me every time.

>>54086182
it should happen in about 4-6 hours.

>>54086262
I want to see a full armor version of Jalter!

>>54086256
>>54086234
Hey, if you don't want to get teased than maybe you should have a higher Initiative! We just do it because we're intimidated by your heaving STR score and toned To-Hit bonuses.

>>54086257
But I dunno how to make a Vital Strike build!

>>54086338
It's really pretty simple, anon. Just take a Butchering Axe, make it as large as possible, and then use Vital Strike.

Is Cleave worth taking, or should it be left to rot?

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>>54086338
It's easy!

what you do is you get the vital Strike chain, so that your weapon does double the amount of damage dice with standard, triple with improved, and quadruple with greater vital strike.

then you get to work on applying size increases. the impact Weapon Enchantment for instance, which makes it count as a size larger (4d6). Pick up enlarge person somehow, and it'll make your weapon large with you (6d6). If you have 3pp available, you can pick up powerful build as a half-orc through pic related and have it be baseline large size (8d6).

>>54086379
>Half-orc girl walks into town carrying an axe that weighs fifty pounds
Gawd, my mouth is watering.

>>54086379
Imagine if that build was mythic. you could pick up Mythic Vital Strike and assuming you hit, just deal enough damage to an enemy to delete him and five of his closest friends in one strike.

S-So... Do half-orcs exist in the Land of the Linnorm Kings?

>>54086379
Okay, anon! Sounds fun! And you'd roll the dice twice, so it'd be 16d6+strength+enhancement? That sounds really cool! I can't wait to kick some DEX-ass!

But I thought Vital Strike was inferior to full attacking?

>>54086334
W-well, so what if my to-hit bonus is toned? Y-you're not jealous, are you? Wait, are you staring!?

How fiddly can a resource system be and still be fun? Does it just vary from person to person?

>>54086445
There's literally an entire community of Half-orcs there the size of a small country. It's canon.

>>54086338
Vital Strike, then Devastating Strike. When you get to high enough levels you can take Improved VS and greater VS.

>>54086452
>But I thought Vital Strike was inferior to full attacking?
Normally, sure, but the Butchering Axe is anything but normal. A full Attack relies on making extra attacks at a lower attack bonus; vital strikes lumps it all into one hit, but doesn't give you as many damage bonuses. That's much less of a problem once you have sky high damage dice.

Regardless, both options work.

>>54086483
>Devastating Strike
How the fuck did I not know this was a thing?

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What classes\builds complements well build Summoner in the party, without feeling out-shined be said summoner in both power and versatility fields? For levels 4-6. No 3PP.

If you answer is full caster class, please elaborate what should it do when spells aren't needed (for example, he already used important spell for encounter and second would be unnecessary waste of resources). Because summoner has not only spells, but "expendable fighter"\s to keep himself busy after spellcasting. "Battle" familiars and animal companions are much harder to recover after inevitable lose. And "combat" casters (like "melee cleric") would be too inferior to eidolon, probably.

Martials probably wouldn't fill neither "versatility", not "power" departments. Though it wouldn't be hard to out-tank and out-damage regular summoned monster and maybe even optimized eidolon, expandable nature of this creatures and versatility of their selection can't be replicated. It's even before we start talking about spells of the summoner.

>KnowDirection releases a podcast about including queer and trans people in your setting
Why would this be in high fantasy? Why is this even important to any setting?

>>54086459
It REALLY varies from person to person.

I have one player who can't help but game out the PF Downtime system to hell and back, another who is a dipping whore for feats, another who minmaxes for a specific manuver with each character (a different manuver each time, but he always minmaxes for that build with that character), and another who likes tryign various power point/word of power/spellpoint/arcane point/whatever type classes to see how each one works.

It's weird.

>>54086536
It isn't. The whole thing was clickbait.

>>54086452
I'm not jealous! I'm just admiring it, when you work that shaft with two-hands you get some huge damage getting sprayed all over the place. It makes me want to get behind you and enter your threat range!

>>54086416
>Half-orc girl walks into town carrying an axe that weighs fifty pounds
>Is murdered on sight by town archer because they mistake her for an invading warband.

>>54086553
>The whole thing was clickbait.

I thought Clickbait was like the stuff I used to get on the top and bottom of these threads, that encourage you to click through 64 boring images surrounded by ads.

>>54086535
There's no build that synergizes with summoner, anon. your best bets are "just play whatever" or "play another summoner", since Summoner gets a lot of toys that interact with summons, even from other people.

>>54086522
No idea. It turns str-based Scaled Fist unchained monks with Elemental fist and Dragon Style/Dragon Ferocity into fucking monsters.

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>>54086586
Ok then, to hell "synchronization". What about "not feeling out-shined by said summoner in both power and versatility fields"?

>>54086460
>>54086445
If you don't believe this man, here is the Wiki page that details their settlement.

http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Averaka

White Estrid, being the clever woman she is, gave the entire island of Flintyreach over to the Half-Orcs as it's too barren and dangerous to settle with honest Ulfen colonials.

>>54086611
Ignoring the obvious "play another summoner" thing, your best bet is to just make a focused specialist in whatever you want to do. Additionally, eidolons can either be skillmonkeys or combat monsters, but they can't cover both, so playing, say, an investigator or rogue is a nice fallback since a combat eidolon will be useless out of combat.

>>54086535
Jesus christ you talk like a fucking mongoloid. Please kill yourself asap.

>>54086535
Wizards get Summon Monster as well, and can do other things besides manage summons like throw a Stinking Cloud at level 4-6. Stinking Cloud is often all a Wizard needs to do that entire fight anyway, he can muck about with Prestidigitation next turn.

>>54085484
PF and 3.5 are hot garbage.
Stick with 4e, 5e, osr shit, 13th age, or some other fantasy rpg, because pathfinder is a fucking mess.
Not only would it take a long time to get a decent grasp of all the rules, but it's a colossally unbalanced mish-mash of questionable to downright insane design choices that clash with eachother. Even in this thread, people bemoan the very notion of playing a game using only first party material because of how shite it is. Just don't even bother, stay away from this shit game.

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>>54086646
If it would be combat-focused eidolon, and I'll go skill monkey route - how should I do it? I.e. "what skillmonkey is best skillmonkey" on level 5?
Also, should I (almost) completely ignore combat aspect in this case? By doing something irrelevant there - like swinging some stick for 1d4+2 or shooting arrow or two for 1d6, but nothing else.

>>54086646
Are skill monkey eidolons real? Seems like theory only bullshit that people discuss on ocassion but never actually see the table. Not getting skill rank ups at every level alone seems to destroy wonkey builds like this.

>>54086452
Vital Strike does give the benefit of keeping yourself mobile. Plus it has a few interesting feats that key off of it. The Cleaving Smash 2H Weapon Trick, for example, lets you combined Cleave and Vital Strike together (and might stack with All-Consuming Swing for double Vital Strike damage). The Combat Stamina use for Devastating Strike doubles your bonus damage, there's a number of feats that let you apply a bonus magical effect to a vital strike (like Winter's Strike or Faerie's Strike), Blooded Arcane Strike (if you're a Bloodrager) gets empowered by Vital Strike, and Death or Glory lets you deal even more damage with your vital strike attack.

>>54086734
I'd personally recommend an Investigator with the Empiricist archetype. It makes you largely INT focused, and allows you do do studied strike to add your intelligence modifier to damage. Investigators are by far the strongest skillmonkeys in the game thanks to being able to key many of them to a single attribute thanks to Empiricist, and because Inspiration allows you to add extra bonuses to the skills you roll, on top of having a massive skill pool.

Even further than that, though, it also gives you access to alchemist-style extracts. If you burn a single Investigator Talent on the Alchemist Infusion discovery, you can brew up potions that will heal teammates, give them buffs, and other such things, making you invaluable in combat as well as out of it.

>>54086733
Anon, do yourself and us a favor and get the fuck out.

>>54086770
You would be correct. Eidolons are still haunted by the "idealized builds that don't actually fucking work because /tg/ is bad at math and illiterate to boot".

What business and adventures could work to providr a steady flow of finances for a party of advent...more like mercenaries, amoral power-mongers and schemers?

>>54086990

Also it's more or less a renaissance setting.

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>>54086990
you know, someone mentioned something appropriate to this yesterday.

>>54086990
>>54087026
That's like asking, "I'm in America, what could I do to make money?"

They could start a Free Company, they could open a tavern, they could whore themselves in back alleys, they could buy a villa and grow their cash. The sky's the limit until you narrow their options down.

>Kawase allowed to return to the Discord

>already shitting it up again with his autism, arguing semantics and waving his dick around about his Chink education

Inspector should really ban him already.

>>54087121
>It's another "Kawase never admits his arguments are faulty"episode
Just end me

>>54087121
>>54087154
For fuck's sake, I'm not even in the discord and I'm tired of you fuckers posting stuff from there in the thread. Just keep it to yourself.

>>54087062

A business they can take over and get cash from affar.

>>54087154

I've never seen a bigger pack of underage whitebread middle class euro brats and the worst elements of asians and south americans under one roof.

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>>54087192

>Kawase lying in defenstration

that's not very polite of you, Kawase.

>>54087259
I'm not Kawase. I'm not even in the discord. I'm just tired of you people bringing your shitty drama into the thread.

>>54087259
That wasn't me boyim, but this time I wasn't even the one who broughtt it up.

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>plebian discord problems

>>54087309
Go back to sleep Broodie it's not healthy to sleep 5 hours a day

My mind can grasp how a dude with 24 Str (and 16 Dex) should look and work, but I can't with someone with 24 Dex (and 16 Str) should work or look.

>>54087317
But i'm not Broodie

>>54087319
I would imagine Donnie Yen. Google pictures of him training, for one.

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>>54087319
Geralt is a pretty good example of a dude that doesn't have immense strength, but does have utterly inhuman dexterity.

>>54087319
Spider-man...oh wait, high Dex doesn't mean you're going to pass Acrobatics easily. Nvm.

>>54087362
>its this guy again

But your acrobatics check is low for your level, invest in boots of springing and striding and get back to me

>>54085765
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54087319
24 is not that superhuman, anon, in fact is olympic level. If you had 30 or similar, then we should be talking about some crazy shit (though dex doesn't affect much to what you can do bar AC without feats)

>>54087454
>24 is not that superhuman
It is literally impossible to acheive via anything other than rage as an Orc barbarian without magical intervention.

For a human, 24 strength is certainly super human.

>>54087454
>24 is not that superhuman
Someone with 24 Str can do 300 kilograms on the olympic weightlifting thing.

>>54087475

>18 + 2 (racial)
, add ASIs for 22 by 8th

>Barbarian's Rage is (Ex), putting it close enough within the realm of human possibility if extraordinary

I'm going to reasonably assume that your Olympians will stop somewhere around level 6 to 8, if that much.

I'm trying to map gay mechanic abstractions real life is retarded though and you're all gay for doing it.

>>54085505
Like rel-real or meme-real? Because I've played games (WFRP2 comes to mind) where getting actually shanked to death with an actual rusty dagger is a very real prospect. Not rocket-tag style, but actually getting-stabbed-is-a-bad-idea style. If my GM was properly using the disease/complications charts, I'm pretty sure we would've suffered TPK:s multiple times.

>>54087475
>Roll 18
>+2 from human for a total of 20
>+5 from 20 levels
>25
No, 24 is not superhuman, is achiveable without godlikeness or whatever

>>54087525

>level 20
>not godlike

anon, i...

>>54087502
Records are around that, so olympic level.

>>54087518
>by 8th
You can't just keep levelling, and olympians are commoners, warriors if you push it. Bruce Lee was probably a Monk 3 if you give him credit.

>>54087525
>from 20 levels
A level 20 can jump off the Empire State and get off with a scratch. A level 20 might be able to do things like walk on air or punch an iron door in half.

>>54087525
characters in Pathfinder achieve superhumanity around level 7. unless you want to tell me that a guy can stand up from falling from fucking orbit only a little worse for wear is normal.

>>54083891
You forgot to mention /pgg/

>>54087542
>20th level fighter
>Godlike
Anon, pls

Also to reach 24 you only need 16 levels, not god levels

>>54086101
>>54086129
Not named as an Orc weapon, though, so anyone that planned to use orcish weapon profs are SOL.

As a DM, I would allow it, though. It's clearly an orky weapon.

>>54087548
>A level 20 might be able to do things like walk on air or punch an iron door in half.
A fighter can't do that without magic items

Or you say F-15 pilots are gods because they can fly and make fire rain from their sky because they have a fucking F-15?

>>54087546
I'm pretty damn sure the records for weightlifting top out at 200-250, max, while 700 lbs is like 320 kilograms. He can also stagger about with 1400 pounds for an arbitrary length of time.

>>54087594
You know what a fighter can do though? Hit four olympic targets with a longbow in six seconds.

>>54087605
What can a Fighter do that a Slayer can't?

>>54087568
A level 16 is regularly eating dragons for lunch and can mow through a nearly arbitrary number of Commoners. We're talking one guy with a sword who can kill an entire city taking scratch damage if they ever mange to beat his AC.

>>54087570
I'll probably ask my GM if he'll allow that, but given how good it is, I won't be surprised if he says no.

>>54087621
I don't believe that's the point, anon

>>54086445
I better fucking hope so, because I want to apply with either a tiefling or an aasimar orc/half-orc bloodrager.

>>54087605
But not fly or punchs iron walls. So stop moving the goalpost.

A PF char can pass without peeing or shitting for all eternity, that doesn't turn him into a god.

>b-but they can't
Tell me when was the last time you told to your GM "my char is going to take a shit/leak"

>>54087641
>or punchs iron walls.
Actually, that one's easy for a character focused on unarmed strikes. Can probably handle it by level 6.

>>54087641
>But not fly or punchs iron walls. So stop moving the goalpost.
Tell me the last time an olympian split his own arrow three times in six seconds.

>>54087621
Run a marathon in heavy plate armor.

>>54087518
>I'm going to reasonably assume that your Olympians will stop somewhere around level 6 to 8, if that much.
"Realistic" humans cap at around 5th or 6th level.

>>54087664
You have countless vids in youtube of dudes firing 11 arrows that hit targets in 6 seconds.

>>54087641
Are you unironically arguing olympians are anything higher than Warrior 4

God dammit people, the game is an abstraction! It is not meant to relate to real life! Shut up about it!

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>>54086789
I see. It seems game would be more combat-oriented, according to GM. So I don't know how useful skill-monkey would be.

How versatile I can be, while still fighting on par with optimized eidolon? Probably with different class, since I doubt Investigator can fight just as good

>>54087121
Why'd he get removed from the cabal in the first place?

>>54087684
With a composite longbow at full draw? That's not physically possible; longbows don't recover fast enough to fire four arrows in six seconds at full draw let alone eleven. Those are recurves that are "plucked" for speed, not speed, accuracy, and power. And damn, that accuracy, to be honest.

>>54087662
I doubt it, you can probably pass or ignore the thoughness (I believe there might be feats or features from umonk) but your damage will be meaningless to actually destroy an iron wall with one hit

Back in 3.5 my monk could deal 80 damage per hit (without magic items or spells) and he couldn't go through a metal wall in one punch, in PF unarmed damage doesn't even come near that even in their wildest dreams over how much nerfed it was

>>54087706
He left for a week on his own then came back.

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>>54087570
>>54087633
>clearly an Orc weapon
>but the race that will likely get the most mileage out of it will be the FUCKING HALF-ELVES
>Orcs and Half-Orcs cuck the elves out of being the best at bows, but elves countered by breeding a race who's better at using fuckhuge axes

>>54087723
Helfs are stupid good full image?

>>54087259
I don't even know who Kawase is supposed to be in that image, much less what the conversation is about. Please kill yourself. Keep the fucking Discord drama out of here, you posturing faggots.

>>54087685
No, but that's due how D20 works, when you level you want it or not you get more HPs, BaB, Skills, etc.
Any human being wouldn't work in D20 because you have people with Stats above 20 and skill ranks over the top on lvl 1 frames.

>>54087743
A stat over 20 is superhuman. A RHINO has Str 22. Someone with Str 24 is literally stronger than a rhino - appreciably so.

Is there any way for a Barbarian to gain Bull's Strength? Would love to be able to use Share Spell to get +4 on both myself and Animal Companion, since buying a belt for both of us is gonna be pretty damn expensive.

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>>54087319
Incredibly toned and lithe, with less 'sixpack' and more 'sleek' look. Often referred to as a 'swimmer's build'. Look up 'foot archery' and you will see many examples of 24 dex and 16 strength.

And a lot of autistic screaming about -4 strength and women can't possibly be more physically capable of something than men.

>>54087787
There's spellrager or whatever.

>>54087787
Sorry bro; unless you put points into Use Magic Device or take a 4 level dip into bloodrager, you're out of luck.

>>54087791
Well I mean, women ARE more flexible than men while being physically weaker (on average and at maximums). I wouldn't mind -4 Str for +4 Dex.

>>54087814
>Elven female gets -4 Str +6 Dex -2 Con +2 Int
Balanced y/n

>>54087787
Bloodrager.

>>54087814
>>54087826
I personally don't care, I was just warning anon that people are stupid.

>>54087814
The difference isn't that massive. -2 +2 or a racial inherent bonus of +1 to one of them depending on race would be more in line with reality.

>>54087764

> trying to apply game abstractions to real life

> protesting that it is an accurate real life simulator

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>>54087847
Yeah but it's minmax heaven. Women are superior to men

>>54087570
worth noting, the weapon description literally says the butchering Axe was thought up in the forges of Belkzen, which is THE orc nation in golarion.

>>54087814
getting a +4 is silly though. Would be better split to go +2 to either wis or cha and +2 dex.

>>54087857
If minmax heaven was reached, the world would be full of atrophied, yet somehow very durable slowpoke poindexters who are about as attractive as a moldy sponge.

>>54087873
No, it would be full of Wizards who look whatever they feel like with infinite stats in everything like a Pun Pun but realized, because they're also blowing the DM and promised to have his babies for this.

>>54087893

I wouldn't try to bribe the DM, that fucker turns people into pillars of salt and shit.

>>54087871
That still makes it straight up better than men though.
>Drow female: -4 Str +4 Dex -2 Con +4 Cha
It's like a spontaneous caster's wet dream.

>>54087893
>tfw your DM will never force you to blow him between sessions
>tfw Vult does this irl

>>54087814
+/-4 is probably over the top, but should men get +1 Str/-1 Dex and women get -1 Str/+1 Dex (for a total difference of +/-2)? Absolutely, and perfectly reasonable.

And that's just humans. Other races could have different modifiers for gender.

>>54087959
So basically, play a woman unless you're on acid or going for flavor? Dex is straight up superior to Str, which is basically worthless for any class that isn't a martial and even then WF + DA obseletes it. I mean I can roll with that.

>>54087908
considering this is talk of presumably human women with different stats as if a subrace, the base human male could get +2 to whatever two stats he wants without being weak enough to get gobbed.

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On to more productive discussion;

How big are your character's tits? How big is your character's cock?

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>>54087997
>just randomly buff the human male with an extra +2 lol
What

>>54087980
Not all of us are genderless min/max faggots, though. Although honestly, for humans, this should probably apply to Int and Cha, too.

>>54088023
I'm not sure there's evidence for women being dumber than men. Or more charismatic. Or vice versa either way. I mean they do live longer, but not significantly so.

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>>54088010
My pyrokineticist is entirely flat chested.

Given the party Skald is a woman with curves for days, she's not happy with this current situation.

>gender based stats

I didn't know this was Circa 2010.

>>54088010

Huge. To both.

>>54088010
Never played a woman. gargantuam, but he's celibate.

>>54088015
you can use alt racials to get two +2s as a regular human character.

>>54088051
Oh Dual Talented
That one's a meme except for specific builds though, losing Skilled and a feat fucking hurts.

>>54088049

What a waste.

>>54088049

It doesn't count if you use your hands and mouth!

>>54088033
>I'm not sure there's evidence for women being dumber than men.
The evidence suggests that while on average women and men are equally intelligent, women tend more towards average, so there are fewer extremely smart(or extremely stupid) women. That's not really the kind of thing you can represent with stat modifiers, though.

>>54088033
Men are indeed generally more intelligent than woman, but also exhibit a bigger span. So men are generally more intelligent, but both the most intelligent and dumbest of our species are men.

And women have evolutionarily favoured social avenues of progression, which is likely why they're both more empathetic as well as manipulative.

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>>54088010
Absolutely monstrous, especially for her height.
And she's very proud of it

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>>54088010
Big enough to cause trouble. Or inspire it. Whichever comes first.

>>54088094

Good! She should be!

>>54088074
Yeah that wouldn't really work unless you did something like "nope you can't take 18 for your Cha, take 17 instead", which is just well, fucked, honestly.

>>54088079
Charisma isn't just manipulation though - favoring social avenues also has to do with the way reproduction works differently and basically her spamming skill ranks into Sense Motive, Bluff, and Diplomacy. Charisma is more like ability to get people moving, and there doesn't seem to be a real skew either way there.

>men are indeed generally more intelligent
I was under the impression it was just the bigger span; more of the most intelligent people in the world are men, but more of the most stupid are as well; they average out around the same place, no?

>>54088010
Mediocre but acceptable given height (5'4"~), given how I rolled a 5 for both on the same character

>>54088114
>they average out around the same place, no?
That seems to be the case. Men just have a flatter bell curve, with more intellectual variance.

>>54088079

The more manipulative part isn't something exclusive to women. Lack of being exposed and properly taught to do it and look out for it would be the problem a lot of guys suffer from and why they get so butt hurt when it happens to them. What's worse is how generally speaking most men will assume that other men won't do it to them and they are horribly mistaken.

We are just as bad if not worse. It's just hard to tell because the emotional side doesn't come out as easily and expose it.

Or at least that's what I would say but most of the NEETs who post on places like this tend to be an emotional train wreck posturing and trying to look superior like an animal pinned in a cage with others. It's kind of pathetic.

>>54087791
>and women can't possibly be more physically capable of something than men.
Women as a whole can't. It's just a fact. Individual exceptionally women can be stronger than physically weak men, but no trained woman beats a trained man. Ever.

Just look at the cases of relatively average male athletes claiming transsexuality and then just going into female sports and shitting all over the world records of female athletes that have trained for years and even decades.

For equality!

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>>54088010
Reasonable I would say. Her mother's (my other characte) are about the same and so is her sister's (my other other character's cohort).

Her dad though (my other other character) has a schlong as long as the sword he wields (two-handed build)

>>54088123

>modest sized futa adventuress embarassed by all these cowtits and studs

Is there anything cuter in this world?

>>54088134
>bell curve
You'd honestly think that it's more like a Maxwell–Boltzmann curve given everyday experiences.

>>54088145
Well, strength often isn't the big deal. I'm pretty sure there's a few olympic records held by women.

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Is it ok for a cleric of Sarenrae to be friends with and possibly pursue a relationship with a repentant, intelligent, and very composed vampire? He's sworn off of feeding on the innocent, and doesn't really do evil any more, mostly working with the cleric to help clean up the town, working where she can't reach.

>>54088114
>Charisma isn't just manipulation though - favoring social avenues also has to do with the way reproduction works differently and basically her spamming skill ranks into Sense Motive, Bluff, and Diplomacy. Charisma is more like ability to get people moving, and there doesn't seem to be a real skew either way there.
I agree, but a Charisma bonus still makes more sense than to adjust individual skills based entirely on gender.

>I was under the impression it was just the bigger span
Not only, although to be clear, the difference isn't exactly massive, it's measurable and consistent, but it's not huge. Don't remember the exact figures.

>>54088144
Hush, adults are talking.

>>54088010
Probably big? I was going to make a tribal half-giant of some kind. Still brainstorming for the next game.

>>54088202

Did I hit too close to home? Really you should take this back to r9k, you might get some sympathy from your fellow fat asses.

>>54088194
>Well, strength often isn't the big deal. I'm pretty sure there's a few olympic records held by women.
Name one.

>>54088225
What are you talking about

>>54088233
A couple of the archery records for one. There's others that are close, too. Archery in general is like a crapshoot between which one comes out on top.

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GUYS! GLOOMSTICK!
finally shadowdancers can control the light level without spells and shit eating up time, ALL IS GOOD IN THE WORLD, hell with poppets you don't even need to activate the shit too, make your poppet do it for u!

>>54088235

Someone is salty about women being ' manipulative cunts', which is blatantly ignoring the fact that everyone does that regardless of gender. Kind of talk belongs on /r9k/ with the other vindictive sad sacks who just want an easy target to blame for their own failings and inability to learn how to work the social game.

>>54088195

You got a smite ALL the undead, girl. Especially the babies.

>>54088269
He's not being salty he's pointing out that it is evolutionarily true that playing the manipulation - or rather, Face Skills - game was much more important for women, who couldn't beat the shit out of her competitor and thereby impress the hunk she wanted to breed with because the hunk would beat the shit out of her for it.

>>54088261
you already had the darklight lantern before this.

Is there any point at all to taking Barbarian over a Primalist Bloodrager? They seem like straight up upgrades in every way possible

>>54088320
Archetypes like invulnerable rager

>>54088294
forgot about that since Dm was not using that content.
well it it's good for ME!

>>54088293
Your efforts are wasted, he's a marxist autist that frequents the thread and bitches incessantly about the state of reality.

>>54088320
Archetypes.

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>>54088289
But he's turned over a new leaf! He even stands near her when she's channeling positive energy!

>>54088338
Don't call him a marxist.

>>54088293

But now you can't just beat the shit out of your competitor. Socially we have moved beyond that for a while now. You're crying that you can't Google you're crying that you can't be Ooga Booga Cavemen anymore. Which is ignoring the fact that most of you cucks would be the ones getting murdered or driven outs to die in the elements by Cave Chads, to weed out the weak and useless men of the social group i.e. you.

>>54088175
The pint-sized character being the sole martial, the only Str-based character, and the only one with face skills in the party.

>>54088320
It depends on the following:
>Do you want to dump the mostly useless Charisma in favor of getting a decent Dex/Wis score to complement your Str/Con?
>Do you want to be an Invulnerable Barbarian and laugh at damage?

Is there any way to gain Hide in Plain Sight without throwing class levels away? I want to be a Shadow Bloodrager and have HiPS.

>>54088347
>Socially we have moved beyond that for a while now.
Maybe 4000 years out of at least 1 500 000 of Homo X evolution, 4000 years is fucking nothing. I'm not agreeing they're necessarily more manipulative but you're the one flipping shit when even today, they're culturally expected to be more subdued - but not necessarily any more vicious. Fuck just look at the archetypical 'cheating person' - the cheating husband is brazen and more or less unapologetic, the cheating wife sneaks about with her 'real man' until she's caught. Evolutionary and biological fact still implies this because evolutionarily men are actually more tilted towards 'pump and dump', while women are more tilted towards the emotional aspect. There was even a survey where someone asked "if your partner is cheating on you what makes you angrier" - men across cultures answered "the sex", women across cultures answered "the attraction". There are biological differences to take into account - they're not innately more manipulative, but cultural and biological phenomenon often make them spam Face skills like no tomorrow.

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How do you achieve MAXIMUM SWOLE, /pfg/? What combination of race, abilities, and things do I pursue to become the strongest man on Golarion?

How valuable is selling furs?

>>54088416

You sound like someone who's never been in a relationship before much less one that involve cheating.

I'm sure you survey that you have not provided a source for was thoroughly exhausted and tested and peered reviewed. Certainly wouldn't be such a dumbass that you would take some shitty online survey and toss it around as empirical evidence on something is nuanced is genetic evolution and social evolution. Surely?

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What kind of a combat monster can be made out of 5th level character, without 3pp and purely theoretical optimization?

>>54088010
The comparisons to a lance are accurate.
It also menaces with fleshy, writhing mini-tendrils.

>>54088346
Or what? Other "REAL Marxists XD" will beat me up?

>>54088440
>I'm sure you survey that you have not provided a source for was thoroughly exhausted and tested and peered reviewed. Certainly wouldn't be such a dumbass that you would take some shitty online survey and toss it around as empirical evidence on something is nuanced is genetic evolution and social evolution. Surely?
Yes, it was, in fact. Not that you have provided any evidence for anything YOU have said, but this is fact, and one backed up by biology - men are, biologically, more interested in actually having the sex, while women are, biologically speaking, more interested in getting a man attached to them so they essentially get protection and resources. This is literally just psychology and evolutionary behaviour, it's not something that changes over four or five digits worth of years because even today it still matters. A man, biologically, should be more upset that the girl is actually sexing someone else whether or not it was 'just a one-off fling', while the woman is more upset that the man is actively in love with someone else while with her. This makes evolutionary - and in fact, just intuitve - sense.

>never been in a relationship
Ah yes, the forever alone whiteknight shall preach to the assumed [r9k].

>much less one that involves cheating
Thankfully we're happy together, but anecdotal evidence wouldn't mean shit anyway.

>>54088425
Orc bloodrager abyssal bloodline, somewhere to get mutagen and +6 belt.

>>54088442
barbarian with a 2h that gets pounce

go nuts you did it

Why the fuck do people think optimization is hard? We've already figured it all out.

>>54088425
probably racial heritage into a monster class then levels of barbarian, alchemist, brutal slayer and whatever else you can find to give you the stronk.

>>54088442
>be a Half-Orc Invulnerable Rager Barbarian
>take Superstition with the FCB to boost it, as well as the Half-Orc's Sacred Tattoo+Fate's Favored
>Take Power Attack + Furious Focus, grab a Greatsword or Falchion

Boom, done.

I really thought /pfg/ would be better when I woke up. Boy was I naive.

>>54088497

You're being disingenuous from the get-go so there's no reason to provide proof.

But please continue lying about yourself and ranting about Marxists like this is /pol/. I'm sure everyone will love to see you continuing to shit up the thread.

>>54088522
>You're being disingenuous from the get-go so there's no reason to provide proof.
Based.

>>54088347
>Socially we have moved beyond that for a while now.
>socially moving past evolutionary behavioural patterns ingrained over thousands of years since before we even left the trees and steppes of Africa, that are still exhibited by our closest ape relatives as a matter of instinct
>in less than a century
Only a communist would be this retarded.

>>54088520
Its been unusually bad recently

>>54088497
>This makes evolutionary - and in fact, just intuitve - sense.
...huh I just tried the cuck meme and it actually sounds right.
>You can nut in my girl, but if she comes home to me and I take her out to dinner and cuddle, who really wins?
>You can ride my man, but if he comes home to me and takes me out to dinner and cuddles, who really wins?

>>54088145
>focuses on strength
>when the particular pictures referenced are all dex based
Uh huh. We know this. And you deliberately skipped over the actual wording which is
>can't possibly be more physically capable of something
which was not strength.

Women are more flexible than men, because their bodies are literally designed differently. ANY woman can be trained to be incredibly flexible, but ONLY double jointed men can manage the same feats of flexibility. It's because those men are inherently built differently, not because men can manage anything women can.

You're the EXACT PERSON that warning was aimed at.

>>54088518
>Greatsword or Falchion
>Not Butchering Axe
Please.

>>54088439
I don't think there's a listed price, but it depends entirely on the quality of the fur and the beast it came from. Rare or quality pelts demand higher prices. Also, find out what's popular to wear.

>>54088416
>men across cultures answered "the sex"
That's because most guys can accept that you can be sexually attracted to someone, but it is not an excuse to break oath.
With women, it has long seemed to be, to me, more about comparing themselves to the other woman and their own feelings of self worth, rather than promises shattered.

>>54088520

If there was a way to automatically ba
anyone for bringing up the following the thread would be a much better place;

>Discord
>celeb shit
>apps
>roll20 games
>anime meme shit
>granblue art
>anime art
>gender politics
>politics in general
>religion
>SJWs

Did I miss anything else?

>>54088233
Archery. Biathlons. Sharpshooting.

Most of the things that women are REALLY good at are not olympic sports. Go figure

>>54088520
>>54088532
I'm not sure whether this is newfags from another board shitting up the thread, assholes who have always been here showing their true colors, or just a giant false-flag operation.

>>54088548
wait no leave the apps and roll20 shit its hte only things i care about

>>54088554
I legitimately think its summerfaggery

Its not that they can't post the rest of the year, but they have NOTHING ELSE TO DO BUT FUCKING SHITPOST

>>54088555

Sorry son the can be no exceptions if we are to cleanse ourselves of the human trash that infest this thread.

>>54088542
>having proficiency in the butchering axe
>as a half-orc

what are you, some kind of half-elf? Also, can't beat the classics

>>54088587
PLEASE NO

>>54088546
No it's because of the biological priorities men and women place. To men, the biological priority is to nut in the girl, thereby fulfilling your evolutionary purpose. To women though, while getting the sex is also high priority, because they have a massive trade off in terms of safety, energy use, and convenience / chances when pregnant, getting the man attached is far higher priority. To a man, a woman looking at another hot dude is upsetting because it implies danger, but it's technically as long as she doesn't actually suck him off, because that violates priority, biologically alarm bells are going off, you're losing the evolutionary battle. To a woman, you can fuck a girl silly as long as it's just a dumb whore and you're not attached because it means, while she'll have competition and be upset about it, at least she'll still get the resource compensation and the normal fulfillment that comes with the attachment.

>>54088530

>>>>/pol/

We are not animals. If you want to live by the nature and laws governing animals and act like one then don't be surprised when you get your ass put down like an animal.

>>54088613
RULES OF NATUREEE

>>54088613
>We are not animals
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens
>Kingdom: Animalia
Hmmm....

>>54085765
Which celeb do you think is going to be most salty about not getting into Ensoulment, /pfg/?

>>54088600

>durr you can never rise above or be anything greater than your base urges

And this justifies why you ra kissless virgin who doesn't have a girlfriend because...?

Let's say there's a cleric who thinks they are an unorthodox follower of sarenrae but is actually being given the divine power by another god to sow dissent among the sarenrae faithful.

Any particular rival gods that would fit the bill for being the enabler?

>>54088613
Biological fact is not something you overcome, it's something you integrate into society. Sleeping is something animals do, although fungi and plants don't - should humans be forced to not sleep, for they are not animals?

>>54088645
Disk

>>54088650
You will never be unaffected by your base urges. A teenager may not immediately stick it into the nearest girl when he's hard but he will act differently. Your brain is not under manual control, your brain IS the manual control. Someone high on hormones acts like he's drugged because that's what he is, and hormones never go away, they just stop being almost end-all-be-all.

>>54088653
Sivanah would do it for the keks.

>>54088631

We have risen above base urges. That's why we don't live in caves and rape each other to death.

Well, most of us.

>>54088650
>you are a kissless virgin who doesn't have a girlfriend
Assumptions.

>>54088094
This woman sounds familiar! Tell us more about her!

When will summer be over

>>54088655

False Equivalence, try again faggot.

>>54084510
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>>54088507
> pounce
But at level 5 there is only one attack, right?

> Why the fuck do people think optimization is hard? We've already figured it all out.
If I'd try to combine damage of a said barbarian with some versatility in and out of combat, it would be harder, I suppose.

>>54088542
Book with Butchering Axe already published?

>>54088518
Does Superstition actually works all the time? Not only while Rage activated?

> Invulnerable Rager
DR 2/- at level 5 - is it worth anything really?

>>54088695
Sleeping is a biological need. We have risen above those, have we not?

>>54088672

You just admitted that it's a learned behavior and that we can train ourselves to overcome it.

Stop trying to justify how pathetic you are with the same flawed logic you use to make arguments against niggers, /pol/lack.

>>54088708
>DR 2/- at level 5 - is it worth anything really?
Compared to what you give up? Yes.

>Does Superstition actually works all the time? Not only while Rage activated?
It's a rage power, it's active while raging. Generally, you're going to end up with enough rage rounds that it's basically "all the time" anyway.

>>54088708
Is that some Sigurd Dragonslayer art?

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>>54088693
It has only just begun. Your suffering shall last evermore who the actual fuck is this whiteknight, is he the same guy as before?

>>54088708
Haste exists and will be cast on you at level 5, faggot, get those animal totems.

>>54088680

It's a well estimated guess with a high margin of success.

Do you even pay attention to where you're posting... ?

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>>54088737
I think so.

I want to die.

>>54088716

Hello Kawase. Back to argue more semantics after you lost that argument in the Discord?

It's cute, really!

>>54088724
We can train ourselves to control it, but you can't overcome it because the apparatus you're using to 'overcome' it - the brain - is the same apparatus those hormones skew, oftentimes to such a point that you cannot tell the difference. Furthermore - what do we have to overcome here? What's WRONG with a woman wanting a man attached to her, or a man wanting the girl to himself?

>/pol/
Never been there.

>>54088758
>hurr durr durr I'm retarded
>let me just namedrop boogeymen from Discord, that'll show 'em!
Who are you so we can blacklist you from every game ever?

>>54088737
Why is Serval so cute?

>>54088737
>>54088752

I see Broody's butch brigade is in full force here to whine about people disagreeing with the /r9k/ucks who are likely one in the same given you a bunch of transparent whiny teenagers!

>>54088645
Kawase. But he's going to do it by making passive aggressive posts anonymously about how ensoulment is shit because C3 was the best app and didn't make it in. This behavior will go on for months and every time somebody points out that it's obviously him he'll pop in with a "That's not me, I didn't expect to get in at all" followed by a handful of rapid-fire replies within a minute about how great C3 was just to "prove" that he's not samefagging.

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>>54088758
I wouldn't argue this one because it's obvious bait or severe retardation and denial of facts, unlike the other one (that you were involved in, perhaps?), which was simply a disagreement of definitions. Please, continue shitting up the thread while everyone of civilisation ignores you.

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>want to make a skinwalker Inquisitor because the flavor is fun
>but an Oni-Spawn Tiefling does everything I want mechanics-wise, with bonus goodies sprinkled on top
>whenever I try to make any kind of character I constantly circle back to "but I could just make it a tiefling and it would work better"

fuck

>>54088772

You would like to know, wouldn't you Chink?

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>>54088783
There is no brigade, there is only me.

I am as unto a god.

>>54088507
How the fuck would you get pounce as a level 5 Barbarian?

>>54088787
I have literally [NEVER] shitposted about my apps not getting in.

>>54088806

>bio truths
>''''''''facts'''''''''

I thought your major was in an actually useful field of science?

>>54088543
There are listed prices, look under Trade Goods.

What are the limitations of a traveler's any-tool? Anything metallic? Can it separate into more tools (since it uses a block and tackle as an example)? Are the tools only metallic, or can it morph into a brush or a mangifying glass? - this one's because it doesn't include a rope in the block and tackle example, but i'm guessing that's because of the amount of material and not the morphing capabilities

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>>54088807
tieflings are TOO STRONK

But that's okay, I love tieflings

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>>54088830
He's actually presenting some form of argument at least. Damn, looks like I've become a barbarian for replying.

>>54088807
Tieflings and Aasimars are two of the most versatile races.

That's why they're 14-16 points, and not 8-10.

Changelings and catfolk a best.

>>54088816

God of a shitty porn channel?

Your portfolio kind of sucks desu why should I even pray to you.

>>54088820
its actually pretty easy to get pounce in various ways.

Like a quick-runner's shirt does the job most of the time

>>54088807

I almost always find this is true when trying to make elf characters as well. Elves make great casters but not much else, the con penalty is just so harsh.

>>54088010
Most everyone in Ladyknights of the Nodachi seem to have hefty bosoms, and I'm going to wager the average PC tit in LotLK is going to be more than a handful.

The age of oppai is upon us!

>>54088807
Tiefs and Aasimars are broken as fuck, they're like the versatility of helfs but even better.

>>54088846
I'm partial to Undines, honestly.

>>54088600
>No it's because of the biological priorities men and women place
Anon, you are putting everything on a single thing, and trying to ignore how humanity balances basic desires with higher goals.
It's almost silly.
>o a woman, you can fuck a girl silly as long as it's just a dumb whore and you're not attached
Lolwut, dude, you need to stop now, you'd gone way over the bend.

>>54088836
Oh shit, my bad.

I would still ask your GM about adjusting prices for stuff that's more exotic or harder to get, but that covers most 'trade' furs! Thanks anon.

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>>54088849
Because It will make your gatcha rolls better.

>>54088866
>Anon, you are putting everything on a single thing, and trying to ignore how humanity balances basic desires with higher goals.
That doesn't mean those basic desires don't exist. If those basic desires are the variable between genders, then assuming those higher goals are functionally the same - they are, since men and women are equally capable of learning these behaviors - then of course the basic desires show up.

>>54088823
It's cute that you think people believe your lies.

>>54088844
A fundamentally poor argument has no intrinsic merit.
Claiming baser urges rule society is counter to civilization as it has been known for 4k years. They have a important part, but do not supersede all others.

>>54088881

>so close but so far away

This must be the story of your life, Broody-kun.

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>>54088881
Wait do you actually play FGO?

>>54088885
I don't think there even were shitposts about my characters after they didn't get in, falseflagged or otherwise.

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>>54088613
>/pol/
>>>>/r/politics/

>We are not animals.
We are, in fact, animals. Chech your anthropocentric privilege, sperglord.

>If you want to live by the nature and laws governing animals and act like one then don't be surprised when you get your ass put down like an animal.
Pic related.

>>54088883
>That doesn't mean those basic desires don't exist
>implies something that was never said
>or even remotely approached

>>54088881
Let me into the disco party. I got kicked out of the other one.

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>>54086101
>dexfags vs. strfags
Wish I could care.

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>>54088901
Pretty much

>>54088907
Gatcha is bad civilization anon Honestly I was waiting for the US release, but yes.

>>54088908

> duurrrr base urges rule everything

You sound like the niggers you despise so much. It must burn you up knowing you're not that different after all.

>>54088914
So are you saying female and male higher desires are different beyond biological differences? How does that even work?

>>54088655
>Biological fact is not something you overcome, it's something you integrate into society.
Literal fucking nazism.

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>>54088924
US Release has a bunch of free quartz in it no? Just keep rerolling until you get the starter 5* you want, pretty good deal if you ask me.