/5eg/ - Fifth Edition General

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Today i finally lost my shit with my retard players and told them to fuck themselves. Motherfuckers not attending the game for 3 weeks straight, and when they do come it's usually 2 hours later than what we had planned. Fuck it, i'm tired of their shit. I'm a DM, not their fucking dad. Sometimes it seems like this game is not worth all the trouble.

>>54078958
How do you balance the desire to world build with the need to have a setting that functions with 5E?

>>54078958
My setting is a bunch of city states. The settlers brought their gods over where the natives are more animalistic in their worship. In an effort to convert the natives, the settler drew parralels from between the gods. None of the city states are theocracies though.

>>54078998
Okay Mr. Troll, I'll bite: you make up what ever you want.

Then in combat you use 5e combat rules.

>>54078995

Seriously, move to Charleston and join one of my games. One of my tables even has a spot open. You've got, like, at least a week before it gets filled. Hurry up.

>all but one player get new clothes to blend in so they don't stand out
>that one player ignores party, npcs and the current situation they're in
>never interacts with anything
>insists on keeping their blood stained cloak it's red so it's fine they think
>will likely gain the ire or arouse suspicion with npcs that matter
It might be a dick move but I'm thinking of making things even harder for them solely because this character stands out in a bad way.
>just talk to them
Every time exp is mentioned they ask how much is needed for a level. Either they continue to suffer or they learn.

Please give me some advice as to what character to play 5eg? It's a toss up between an EK and a GOO warlock.
I have a better idea of how to roleplay the GOO warlock though.

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>Mariner fighting style doesn't allow shields
Well I guess that's one character concept gone.

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How do you make arenas interesting?

>>54079176
What is that monster?
Have spectators throwing weapons for the combatants to use, hazards spread throughout the arena such as pits, spikes and fire.

>>54079175
I don't think they actually swam wearing their shields, so just put it away when you dive in and enjoy the half a shield's worth of AC.

>>54079046
What if specific classes don't exist in your setting or if the world isn't conducive to the types of games 5E is good at?

>>54079225
>What if specific classes don't exist in your setting
You can usually reflavor or homebrew something existing to work.
>or if the world isn't conducive to the types of games 5E is good at?
Have you considered just not playing 5e?

>>54078998
I suppose you have to take what the rules allow for and treat it as cannon.
Like, some spells make coming back to life cannon, some make alternate planes, ethereal planes, etc planes cannon.
Otherwise you'll need to restrict and remove those rules as you come upon them.

>>54079225
If you could be more specific and offer some details, we could probably offer you better advice.

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>>54079171
>what kind of GOO are you tied to?
>how did you strike the pact?
>how "all there" do you plan on being?
>do you plan on sitting about, and speaking feverishly, chatting into the wee hours?

>>54079246
I have unfortunately my players don't want to so I'm trying to find a workable solution that makes both my players and I happy

>>54079256
I don't like that there's there's about 4 different power sources for magic and am having a hard time condensing them in a way that makes sense and keeps 5E intact, alternatively I am thinking about world building specifically for 5E as a system which might be a fun challenge

>>54079271
It's not like you're playing 3.X where numbers get skewed when you fuck around, or 4e where homebrewing anything takes hours of work. Just knock off some options you don't like and make some new ones to compensate as necessary.

Dm question here: how do i balance combat encounters for a party of 6 fighters?

>>54079213
>What is that monster
It's a Shaelmaar, witcher 3.

In this example, it was a gift to Toussaint from the Emperor of Nilfgaard to be used in their tournaments. They're completely blind and rely on echolocation to find things, this one has massive bells strapped to it to confuse it but they get knocked off in the fight.

>>54079353
SIX MORE FIGHTERS!

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Building a level 5 Deep Gnome Mystic.

I'm dumping all my points into INT and CON for

8
14
16
18
10
10

For max HP and a +7 to hit/15 DC which is pretty high for an INT save.

I'm thinking Order of the Immortal/Bestial Form/Adaptive Body/Brute Strength. Or would Giant/Tiny be better for utility?

Talents probably Mind Thrust 2d10 INT save, Mystic Charm because useful and Delusion.

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>DM wants to run strahd, not adventure league rules though
>so i can finally run my artificer
>from what I am told, expect 5-6 people at most including me in that.
>2 others show up out of nowhere, with 8 players + dm we are packed in like sardines

god dammit

>>54079353

You don't. No matter what you may plan, you cannot account for six action surges. It's actually impossible. I'd actually be amazingly curious to see a graph of what six action surges would look like.

>>54079159
Meant to ask if this was in fact, a dick move.

>>54079414
>8 players
Abort

>>54079326
I'll probably just go with this, hopefully I can get player buy in with the homebrew

What would be the best archetype and feats for a sword & board dex fighter?

>>54079414

I did Curse of Strahd with seven players + DM with a DM that avoids roleplay and loves combat in a DM vs player mentality. We fucking destroyed Strahd in an almost embarrassing way after nearly a year of struggling through Barovia.

As advice: Be a Cleric. Be six Clerics. Just have a fucking Cleric in your party. 90% of 5e cmpaigns don't need a Cleric, but CoS is so much easier with one.

>>54079353
Use magic traps.

>>54079469
But none of my players are gay. How will that help?

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>>54079511
They won't know it's a trap until its too late anon.

>>54079353
Why the fuck would you have 6 fighters?

The party is either perfectly fine or horrendously screwed no matter what you do as they excel really well at one thing but suck at everything else.

So no, there's no way you can do this that won't result in them all dying.

>>54079511
Traps aren't gay dbh

My DM is the best Dm. Fucking love that guy.

I wanna hold his hand

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>>54078958
Any ideas for a fun Ranger for a relatively new player. So far I've leveled a paladin and a barb to 6, but no experience with Ranger. I want to keep it easy and RP heavy.

I am joining a group of work friends who are running a 7th level group with Milestone EXP. The DM asked me to make a scout, and I know him to be pretty flexible with group makeup.

Any recommend builds to try? Is having a pet gay AF?

>>54079384
Anyone?

actually played mystic

>>54079639
Beastmaster ranger is really weak, ranger in general is, but especially Beastmaster.

>>54079639
Use the revised ranger if at all possible. Depending on what type of campaign I would consider either hunter or the deepstalker conclave. Alternatively you can play a rogue and pick the UA Scout archetype.

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So is Vax a Revenant now? Cause that's what it's looking like to me

>>54079700
Get the fuck out with your fagshit

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>>54079664

Any other class you would recommend to be the scout for a party? I do not care about damage output.

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>>54079700

>>54079700
Literally who?

>>54079700
Probably. Or, at the very least, he's normal, but the second the whole Vecna thing is resolved, he's getting the pink slip for life.

>>54079723
rogue for sure. be a sneak, cap wisdom and take wis skills

>>54079639
7th level? That's nearly at the point where the Horizon Walker becomes at-will Teleport baked into your attacks are cool.

Primeval Guardian's also really fun if you want to go melee. I highly recommend it.

Ask your DM to let you use Revised. PHB Ranger is alright, but the Revised version makes them good. If you can't use the Revised Beastmaster then don't even think about being a Beastman.

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>>54078995
I know that feel, bro

>>54079686

Where can I find revised ranger info? Thanks in advance.

>>54078995
When you're a player and you hate all the other players for this reason.

>>54079753
5etools is your friend

>>54079753
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ua+revised+ranger

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>>54079753
Unearthed Arcana on the WOTC website. or just google "ua ranger".

>>54079458

The Dueling fighting style grants that +2 damage boost so long as you're holding one weapon in one hand and no other weapons. Your shield ain't a weapon, so it still applies. Otherwise, choose Protection for your teammates' sake.

Other than that, Battlemaster is always fun and moves like Riposte will be your friend.

Anyone have any cool ideas for a Land Druid? I mostly like all their Elemental themed spells and want to try and roleplay around that.

>>54079753
C'mon did you even think to Google it before asking

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>>54079700

>>54079458
Be a DEX Knight, giving Disadvantage on an enemies attacks against friends is amazing plus 3 times per rest you can make a super OA.

For Fighting Style either Dueling for damage or Defence for... defence.

Feats you pick up will probably be Shield Master, Sentinel and whatever else tickles your fancy.

>>54079700

>>>reddit

>>54079700
Yes, he is. And we do have a CR thread going already, so feel free to post in there.

A lot of the /5eg/ anons don't like it when we discuss CR stuff in here, but tolerate it for the big events, and this is admittedly a rather minor event.

>>54079723
Best party scout is Chain Warlock.

Second best party scout is any character with a familiar.

>>54079461
we have a cleric, a paladin (though i don't think he'll be there every week, it's played by an old guy that barely pays attention), me (artificer), a lizardfolk ranger, monk, aasimar fighter, wizard, drow something (forget class)

What sucks is though we haven't had combat, I feel like I don't shine anywhere, i'm utterly surprised by how many people took investigate compared to some of our other campaigns. Or half the party has medicine skill as well. I'm sitting there thinking I'll be this useful party member but everyone can do everything better than I can right off the bat. The ONLY thing I have over them is all my tool proficiencies, and lord knows how little that will ever come into play outside of thieves tools which I get automatically.

Pic related, how my kobold artificer dresses

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Anyone know a good way to subtly kill off my friend's gf's character? She's a massive slut and wears super revealing clothing at the table, it's extremely distracting, and telling her to stop isn't really an option due to her age. She is also a huge whiny bitch and constantly complains when shit doesn't go her way, like getting pouty when her character went to 0 hp ONCE and I didn't heal her instantly and chose to finish off the monster first so it couldn't hit her again and put her in nat1=death territory. She's playing an elf ranger (of course), beastwarden (of course), 4th level. She has 13 Con and 19 Dex, those are her only stats I remember. She has 38 hp because she bitched at the DM every time she rolled less than 5 for a hit die roll and since he's a thirsty cuck like the rest of my group he let her reroll. She has 16 AC (studded). Any ideas for taking her out? I'm playing as a Cleric with Grave domain from UA.

>>54079750

Hey dude thanks a lot.

>>54079858
Apologies I had no idea there was a thread up.

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>>54079890
wtf picture didn't go through

>>54079898
Passive aggressively hurting the character for the player one of your friends is fucking in a board game wont do you any favors in the long run. You may need to use actual words for this situation

>>54079898
Maybe just leave the group. From your descriptions of the players as "thirsty cucks" you don't seem to like being around them.

Alternatively, quit bitching about things on the internet and talk to your friend.

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>>54079898
Try growing some testicles, you fucking kidult.

>>54079898
>She's a massive slut and wears super revealing clothing at the table, it's extremely distracting
Grow the fuck up or don't look at her then.

>beastwarden
At least get the class names right.

>4th level
>She has 13 Con and 19 Dex
Yeah she is retarded if she has two main stats odd.

>since he's a thirsty cuck like the rest of my group he let her reroll
Alright. So while I personally think your a dick I'll give the best advice I can. Find a new group.

You clearly don't match with the type of interaction they're all having and don't get along with them, I can assure you that this will end with you doing something to kill her off and getting kicked out.

>>54079898
Like the other people said, either confront the person and group directly or leave the group. Being a child about this shit isn't going to get you anywhere. Deal with it or make it not your problem.

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https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Shrine_Maiden_(Variant)
Being working on this, any advice to make it more balance?
I feel the main theme of the class and class option doesn't come across too well.
Suggestion in better names for stuff and making the text more compact are appreciated

>>54079945
Why won't it do me any favors? It'll make me feel good inside.

>>54079957
Talking to my friend will just result in him sperging out and white knighting. He's never had any pussy before so he's unlikely to give an inch. I'd rather just "accidentally" kill her off with a misplaced AoE or something.

>>54079981
You try sitting across from this chick and not wanting to stare at the tits, then tell me to "grow up." Also I can't quit the group because of the social ramifications that would have.

>I can assure you that this will end with you doing something to kill her off and getting kicked out.
Not if I make it look like an accident.

>>54080045
>dandwiki

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>>54078958

Need a lvl 3 character for one-shot tomorrow but too lazy at the moment. Will play the most complete character sheet posted as a reply to this.

>>54080045
Brace for the wave of
>dandwiki

>>54079784
>>54079793

Did not realize a simple published set of rules was what you were referring to. BTW faggot.

>>54080052
The way you're typing makes me think that you just want to fuck your friend's girlfriend and you're mad that she isn't interested in you.

>>54079171

GOOlock is a lot more straightforward. EK's aren't bad but they require much more careful handling.

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>>54080058

>>54080052
You're being a coward and making excuses for yourself. Either deal with the problem like a fucking adult or leave the situation.

>>54080045
>dandwiki

>>54080056
I didn't want to use it but I don't know how to make chart in Pastebin

>>54080052
>You try sitting across from this chick and not wanting to stare at the tits
I can because I'm not a child, you sexually frustrated turbo-virgin.
>I can't quit the group because of the social ramifications that would have
This is an 18+ website. If your social links rely on d&d you have bigger problems kid. You can just say "hey DM, i'm not feeling it."

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>>54079898
>She's a massive slut and wears super revealing clothing at the table

Post pics

>>54080117
Use homebrewery

http://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/

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>>54080093
The brave thing is to tuck my tail and quit a group that I was a part of for four years before that roastie slut joined in? That's bullshit. If a man came into your house with a gun and threatened you, would you cry and apologize and sign over the mortgage to him? Fuck no. You defend your turf. That's what a goddamn man does.

>>54080084
>The way you're typing makes me think that you just want to fuck your friend's girlfriend
Well yeah but she's 14 so I'm not going to do that when I'm almost twice her age.

>>54080137
Jesus Christ just go back to /r9k/

>>54080137

>roastie
Keep /r9k/ in /r9k/

Okay, so you're almost 28 years old. Why the fuck are you hanging out with someone that's dating a 14 year old? Could it be that you're an underage highschooler, instead of a man in his late 20s?

>>54079258
Eldritch Mormon.

Nice guy wiating for his master the Beast that is the Darkness Between Stars to cause the heatdeath of the universe and devour planets.

Very low key cultist. Fights the good fight so his master has a nice snack for later.

>>54080102
>>54080062
>>54080056
Dude, we get the point. He posted a link to dandwiki. Not everything on that site is bad, the brew he posted deserves to be judged on its own merits. If he'd posted some PDF with a faggy background and pretty font you'd be all over it so quit whining.

>>54080134
Don't have any and I don't want to post her facebook pics, although some of them are pretty hot.

>>54080126
>I can because I'm not a child, you sexually frustrated turbo-virgin.
Stop projecting. When did I say I was sexually frustrated? Just because I don't want to play D&D with a near-topless female distracting me? Sorry if you're into men.

> If your social links rely on d&d you have bigger problems kid.

Well most of my friends are part of my D&D group and know my family pretty well, my D&D group is pretty engrained in my social circle. Which was probably mistake to do but it's too late now.

>>54080137
Aight, here's what you do.

Next time she shows up, turn on some hardcore gangsta rap. get up on the table and dance, throw hands around like you're freestyling. Then, at the end of the song, drop trou and squat right in front of her and squeeze a log out. Then do your best breakdance move, crack open a container of cool whip and spread it on your turd. When she looks at you in disgust, backflip off the table and flip that shit right into her slutty mug.

Then sit down to roleplay like nothing happened.

>>54080137
>Comparing an annoying girlfriend taking over a weekly gathering to your home being invaded and taken.

That's pretty fucking pathetic, anon. The 'brave' thing to do would be to confront your friend and tell him what's going on, and if that didn't work leave the group because it's no longer worth your time.

>14 years old
wew

10/10, got me to reply three times.

>>54080137
>>>r/incels

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>>54080176
No, I am 28, my friend is 24, his girlfriend is 14. Yeah it's weird. I don't want to talk about it further. Anyway, can we please discuss a good way to kill her character off accidentally? Like a spell that has an unintended effect that I could make a "dumb mistake" and cast accidentally that could cause her to drown or something like that?

>>54080183
>unironically uses the term roastie
>can't sit near a chick without being a sperg
Nah you're just autistic.
>Well most of my friends are part of my D&D group and know my family pretty well
Is d&d your only social interaction or something?

>>54080208
>weird

That's pedophelia. Your friend is a pedophile. Have you told your friend he's a pedophile?

>>54080183
>>54080137
>>54080208

>a pedophile that thinks that dandwiki is alright and plays roleplaying games with pedophiles
This is advanced degeneracy

>>54080208

If you don't have the God-given sense to run, we can't help you.

>>54080208
With this post I can firmly, 100% say that the Discord is better than this thread in every way.

>>54080208
>Anyway, can we please discuss a good way to kill her character off accidentally
Nope

>>54080208
What kind of faggor are you that you try to ruin the fun of a little kid?

>>54080208
>his girlfriend is 14
Does this make you an accessory?

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>>54080089

Thank you.

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>>54080208
you don't say

>>54080208
I'm so happy about this post. I'm just going to sit here and laugh at you until I pass out.

>>54080208
>I don't want to talk about it further.

nigga, please.

>>54080208
I'm new, how do I report someone for being an accessory to statutory rape

>>54080208
So what happens when she just rolls a new character, bitches enough to get brought back as a revenant or what will most likely happen; your clever plan backfires and they kick you out?

>>54080223
I remember getting into an argument with the autistic owner of that wiki over base classes having less than 20 levels. If he rattled his tits any harder they would've snapped off.

"B-b-b-b-but it forces you to multiclass", I'm so sorry I pinned down your character sheet, raped it, creampied, and knocked its teeth out by putting a second class name on it.

>>54080189
Except she is ruining the group. All because she has a vagina. I ran a four year campaign for these fuckers and somehow they defend this bitch over me? Are you fucking kidding? I spent HOURS on that campaign, I tailored that shit to their retard characters and somehow brought it all in line so no one was left out. That campaign was a masterpiece of DMing, but this worthless slut just shows up and these thirsty fucks immediately start defending her. No. No more, fuck this shit. If I have to switch characters, I will. I'll play a blaster wizard instead and "accidentally" catch her in the area of an AoE, I just don't know how to deal 38 damage with an AoE in one round and then somehow end up killing her. I wish 5e had more instant death effects, I hate how hard it is to die, I know they wanted to make it more palatable to video game players and shit who are used to just "respawning" but for fucks sake. If this were 3.5 and she WASN'T playing a fucking elf I could just sleep her and she'd drown in a fucking river in 2-3 rounds and I could pretend "woops I didn't know that would happen" because the other monster had like 8 hit dice. That's how I killed an annoying PC who insisted on playing a necromancer in another 3.5 campaign I played in. But I don't know 5e particularly well yet so I was looking for some advice. But I guess, like my friends, you guys would rather side with some cunt you've never met. Typical. Fine, I don't need your help. I'll find another way to get her killed in-game.

>>54080272
It's possible he just lives somewhere shitty where that's a legal age, but believe me if I knew how I would

>>54080272
Call up Chris Hansen, tell him you're from 4chan.

>>54080296
You're not allowed to talk about the vagina's of 14 year olds on a tibetan basket weaving forum. What the fuck is wrong with you.

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>>54080296
>That campaign was a masterpiece of DMing
Best thread we've had in a long time lads.

Mystic:

>Some disciplines require you to make an attack roll to determine whether the disciplines effect hits it s target. The attack roll uses your psionic ability (which is INT)
>Bestial Claws you manifest long claws for an instant and make a melee weapon attack against one creature within 5 feet.

So if I'm reading this right you use your INT modifier for attack rolls not STR?

>>54080296
Alright, so we all think you're wrong and retarded and you don't think so.

That's fine and all but why bother telling everyone here how you're annoyed when all we're gonna do is laugh?

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tfw DM won't remove the 'heavy' restriction from the newest revision of the Kensei so I can port my character over to a class that makes more sense than the one she already has.

the only other option is to take the old shittier version.

>>54080296
>masterpiece of DMing
Holy shit, post a picture of yourself. I need to add it to my faces of autism folder

>>54080322
Well it also says melee weapon attack, which implies to me that it's a normal attack that does bonus damage

>>54080333
Hold a Longsword in two hands and say it's the size of a greatsword.

Not that hard mate.

>>54080351
I read it as Melee attack i.e. engaged with a target.

>>54080208
Do your own research. Read the books. If you dont have the books, get a PDF. If you cant buy one, rip it.

>>54080306
I do, but it fucking should not be. If I could get him arrested I would have by now. Then again I don't know if they actually have sex, I've only seen them kiss like 3 times, I don't really WANT to know either. ANYWAY none of this is relevant because I want her character dead and her out of the group, I've been considering just outright telling them that one of us has to go but I feel like those dumb pricks would pick her.

>>54080276
Then I will steal their character sheets and destroy them.

>>54080234
Just because she's a "kid" doesn't give her the right to get away with stupid shit. She gets away with it because she's a woman. I didn't act like that when I was 14. There's no excuse for this level of self-centered crap.

>>54080352
Current character is a polearm master fighter- it doesn't work, mechanically, and the only nonheavy reach weapon is the whip.

>>54080296
I'm fucking dying over here. What the fuck is wrong with you? Holy shit.

>>54080377
>Then I will steal their character sheets and destroy them.
You are one petty bastard.

>>54080372
It would probably say melee spell attack then, but then I guess none of the mystic abilities are "spells"

>>54080377
We know you didn't act that way when you were 14, but you also didn't have any friends when you were 14. Your current group would be right to pick her over you, because you're a huge turbosperg and hate fun.

>>54080385
Use a spear and get a different feat. Spear Mastery gives you d10 damage and lets you make reach attacks as well.

>>54080377
>I've been considering just outright telling them that one of us has to go but I feel like those dumb pricks would pick her.
I wonder why.

>hen I will steal their character sheets and destroy them.
You are going, to steal a 14 y/o girls character sheet and destroy it. think about that. You're a fully grown man going to rip up a piece of paper just because you want revenge against a child.

>>54080396
Pettiness aside I can't imagine that would even be a significant setback. 5e characters are like the simplest shit ever to remember or recreate. If he's really getting to this point of desperation he should just plant drugs on her and call the cops or something

>>54080402
Yes unless a particular ability says it is a spell, as you can learn some wizard ones if you want to, they count as psionic abilities and not spells.

>>54080440
>>54080377
Yeah, do that. Plant drugs on her and call the cops. That way you don't have to deal with her white knight cuck boyfriend and can remove her from your life entirely

>>54080457
>anon buys drugs to set her up
>gets busted in a sting operation
Also they wouldn't send a 14 y/o to jail for a first time drug offense.

I can't even this thread right now, my sides are somewhere in jupiter's gravity well.

>>54080393
What is wrong with ME? Excuse me, I am not the one dating a goddamn 14 year old. I am not the one who is pandering to some retarded whore just because she is a female. That is what my dumb-ass group is doing. I am not the one who switched to 5e because it was easier for her as a new player. THEY did that. I didn't want to fucking switch to 5e. It's not a bad system but holy fuck is it boring compared to 4th or 3rd, I didn't want to play it but I have to because little miss perfect wants to play it and it's simple enough for her tiny little brain. I am so fucking sick of dealing with her whining, and dealing with my stupid-ass friends and their retarded shit characters. Their characters are dumb shit like dragonborn, drow ranger, tiefling warlock, the most meme-tier characters ever, they have no fucking backstory and barely know how to roleplay, I am ALWAYS the one leading things forward. And it's not like this girl even knows how to play the game despite it being the simplest fucking D&D edition of all time, she keeps forgetting to add proficiency or even what fucking die to roll. And I have to sit through this. No, fuck that shit, I wasted hours helping these fuckers enjoy roleplaying, and now they turn on me? They want a game? I'll give them a motherfucking game. I will subtly kill off at least one of their characters into permadeath mode or do something else to fuck up the campaign. Maybe I'll find a way to accidentally kill one of her animal companions. I don't care. I am going to ENJOY this game one last time before I quit the group. And if you motherfuckers won't help then I'll figure out something on my own.

>>54080440
>If he's really getting to this point of desperation he should just plant drugs on her and call the cops or something
That's not a bad idea to be honest.

>>54080472
What if she's black?

>>54079798
I'd suggest looking in older books for Druid fluff. I don't know what books you'd want, but 5e has minimal Druid fluff.

>>54080472
The way I see it if that doesn't happen there's a fair chance one of the other people in the group browses here and would get suspicious since people tend to come here in clusters. I don't know why you had to ruin the run like that though

>>54080484
I'm can't even read all that, I'm literally laughing to hard right now you fucking psycho. God damn.

>>54080485
Black people play d&d?

>>54080484
Anon, your friends are retards and pedophiles. Are these really the people you should even be associated with anyway, in case the police catch your friend fucking a child?

>>54080515
Yes

>>54080517
I think he fits right in with them.

Whats the absolute max players you'd allow in your party as a DM (Not strangers, people you know and aprove of). Personally i can do 5-7, opinions?

>>54080484
>is it boring compared to 4th
Just more proof that you are retarded.

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>>54080484
You do realise they'll probably do what most groups do when a player does this and say

>Gee, now that he's gone let's just pretend all that stuff he did never happened

Killing them does nothing but completely ruin your friendships, just say to them you're not really into 5e and won't be playing anymore so you can fall back on the group if you change your mind.

>>54080526
6 max, 5 preferred.

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>>54080208
Best way to do it is to make it her choice. Shouldn't be by accident. Set a magic trap within her character's wheelhouse with a decent lead up ensuring everyone knows just how dangerous it is -> Meteor Swarm.

>>54080526
3-4, that's it. Things get dumb past that.

>>54080484
What state do you live in? Even though most states consider marijuana and heroin illegal, there's a high chance that she won't get in any actual trouble as a result of the arrest depending on where you live.

>>54080526
6 is the absolute max for me.

I prefer 4-5, 3 is absolute minimum.

>>54080419
>We know you didn't act that way when you were 14, but you also didn't have any friends when you were 14.
LOL nice projecting. I played shittons of D&D when I was 14 with my family, we played all Sunday afternoon. Sadly that kind of thing can't last forever, and you end up playing with retards whose only experience with RPGs is World of Warcrap and Dark Scrolls and shit like that, and you spend hours and hours teaching them how to play these games and drawing them into it and crafting epic campaigns for them, and you think it will be just like the old days were, even though they are slightly autistic and make stupid choices and say/do cringeworthy things. But you are happy, for once you are happy. I spent almost 10 hours a week in preparation for my game just to give it that perfect touch. Then what happens? This cunt joins and now, yes I get a break from DMing but the campaign is fucking worthless and sucks ass and she is the most annoying human being I have ever met. My sister was goddamn TWELVE when she played with my brothers and I and she was not one tenth as annoying and entitled as this bitch. What the fuck is wrong with children these days? Are their parents libtards who provide them with absolutely zero boundaries? Go fuck yourselves. I should not have to pander to this dumb bitch who can't even read the rules, I should not have to defend her when she makes dumb choices in combat, I should not have to give her a lions share of the gold to contribute to her enjoying the game because she has absolutely zero emotional investment in it and needs shiny things to maintain her interest, just like most females. Worthless. Fucking worthless. This is the kind of human garbage that 5e attracts with its simplified rules. Not that that's a bad thing, the simplified rules, just that this marketing to pander to a wider audience of utter fucking morons who don't even bother to read the rules. Sure, that was always a problem, but it's worse now than ever before.

A pair of my players are pushing for a more advanced herbalism system because they want to spend downtime getting a druid to teach them.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good set of rules for herbalism / basic alchemy?

>>54080527
>Just more proof that you are retarded.
At least in 4e my fighter actually got better at defending himself over the course of 20 levels.

>>54080532
You're right, I need a more permanent way of fucking up the campaign.

>>54080542
I'm not the DM though. Not yet. Used to be.

>>54080526
Having knocked it down to 4 I prefer that.

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>>54080589
Look guys, it's the person that makes the "What made you realize that D&D was bad" threads every couple of hours!

>>54080526

I've done 7 one time as an exception because i felt bad for a girl that was depressed. She kept quiet but did interact with the group and it worked out fine.

However 7 as a rule is a bad, bad idea. Please dont do 7.

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>>54080583

>>54080526
4 minimum, 5 maximum. 5 is the most optimal.

>>54080609
No? I just hate that despite training for years as a swordsman I never get any fucking better at defending myself, only at hitting. And even that improves at a snail's pace, because if a gnoll can't hit a level 20 character 50% of the time then the game is shit.

>>54080641
>4 minimum, 5 maximum. 5 is the most optimal.

Are you high on crack? 2-4 players is the ideal range, 5 is shit, 6 is absolute shit, and 7 is just asking for your game to be a chore instead of a recreational activity.


>>54080616
>I've done 7 one time as an exception because i felt bad for a girl that was depressed.

You're pathetic. This is the kind of shit that is ruining my group. "Depressed"... what a fucking joke. What, is she sad that Chad didn't like her Facebook profile status update or Twitter photo? If she actually commits suicide instead of poking two holes in her arm, then maybe I'd have some actual respect for her. Depression is a fucking meme, either kill yourself or just get on with life and quit whining.

>>54080664
This is not /r9k/. Please go back there.

>>54080664
>Depression is a fucking meme
Science says you're wrong.

>>54080664
>2-4 players is the optimal number

This right here. I've been running 3+GM games in every system for so long that even four seems like I'm neglecting a player half the time.

>>54080664
>You're pathetic. This is the kind of shit that is ruining my group. "Depressed"... what a fucking joke.

Im sorry i tried to help out someone who was raped by her stepdad.

>>54080715
Did you find a way to unrape someone?

Rolled a cleric and didn't realise how much spell shit I had to deal with. I thought it would be half as much. Fuck me my dudes.

>>54080715
>Im sorry i tried to help out someone who was raped by her stepdad.

hahahaha jesus christ. You do understand most of those stories are made up for attention by girls who don't get enough of it, right? And you fell hook line and sinker for it. What a joke. Well I hope you enjoyed DMing a game for SEVEN fucking people. All because you cant learn to say no. Just like that girl apparently couldn't.

>>54080701
>Science says you're wrong.
Psychology isn't science. Putting an "ology" in something doesn't make it a legitimate science. It exists to sell happy pills and psychadelics and get them past the FDA. If you think mental illnesses like depression and anxiety are real, you really need to kill yourself because you are a weak human being. It's your own mind. Control it. It's pretty much the only thing you have any real control over it.

>>54080714
Three players is ideal. Four is also very good. I ran an 6 year campaign for just 2 players once. Worked out well, they each ran 2 characters.

>>54080765
>What is chemical imbalance.

>>54080765
>you really need to kill yourself
You should take your own advice kid. Your friends don't want you and this thread doesn't want you.

>>54080780
>What is: get over it

>>54080765
sage
>IN ALL FIELDS

>>54080790
>says the guy who can't get over a game of playing pretend

>character is killed
>was the only reliable ranged damage
>joke about coming back with a gun and an eyepatch
>'anon, go look at artificer'

>>54079981
>think you're a dick
if you're going to call someone a dick at least get the right your/you're

>>54080800
Yeah but I'm doing something about it to fix my problem. And I'm not taking pills instead of dealing with my issue.

>>54080034
from the sound of his description acting like a child got her where she is in the group; the center of attention for the group and her way in all events.

>>54080840
You probably should be on pills. You're clearly not right in the head m8.

>>54080826
>if you're going to call someone a dick at least get the right your/you're
This is a joke right?

>Think you are a dick
>Think you're a dick

>>54080526

I'll go 7 but I'm not happy about it. I prefer 5.

>>54080746

Your best plan is to go into an anti-DnD thread. There you're gonna find out that you're godlike, more powerful than the DM in and out of character, and the only person at the table who's having any fun.

>>54080322
>>54080351
Addendum:

When it says melee attack do you think you could use a finesse weapon getting your dex modifier instead?

>>54080852
I don't understand what you're getting at. Do you mean to say because someone else acted like a child that it's okay or even understandable for that anon to lower himself down to that level too? Because it's not.

>>54080636

Thanks anon, this one looks swell. We'll give it a shot.

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Why's there so much drama in /5eg/?

>>54079052
>tfw Charleston is close enough to drive to, but just far enough to be a hassle

>>54080972

Screw downtown then, what about North Chuck? My Wednesday game literally just got an opening.

>I'm over here, actually
I lost it.

>>54080526
4-6 is my preferred number, 7 I can handle but don't enjoy comfortably.

>Bards get Awaken

So my Bard can have a talking pet following him around for fun? That helps the tough choice of Bard or Druid.

>>54079323
>4 different power sources for magic

Is there? I don't recall any canonical source of magic, or even any single canonical cosmology.

>>54081029
Dicks?


Also, what the goddamn actual fuck is happening in this thread?

>>54081179
As far as I know focusing on the sources of magic was really just a 4e thing

>>54081179
Arcane
Celestial
Primal
Psionic

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If you want to be frugal or just starting out, playing with the D&D Basic Rules is pretty comfy. The main four classes and races are usually what a new player would need.

Where one would feel restricted without the lack of options found in the Player's Handbook, I feel that it forces the players to be a little more creative with their character. For example, a fighter can have barbarian-esque traits, or a rogue could have bard-esque traits.

The races included are great for new players too. No need to think of including the edgy Tiefling, or brooding Dragonborns. Dwarves, Elves, Halflings, and Humans are the best to start out with mostly because they're the more recognizable facets of fantasy settings. They're diverse, but not too whacky or alien for a casual to understand.

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Does this mean that if your DM allows it as a Deep Gnome I just get this for free?

>>54081659
>brooding Dragonborns

I've literally never seen a dragonborn played as "brooding," if anything I've always seen them played as hyped as all fuck because they're a goddamn dragon-man.

I like Tieflings just because I feel like the more Abyssal/Infernal influence in a campaign, the better. I really dig demons and devils as characters and setting components.

>>54081681
Not for free, it's just an option when you hit one of the feat/ability score levels.

>>54081689
As long as the player is able to RP that well without turning into an edge lord

>>54081681
It says optional because feats are technically an optional rule despite pretty much everyone using them

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>>54081659

Also, of course you could just download the PDFs for the handbooks and the other manuals. I just get a lot of complaints from players about scrolling through PDFs. Personally, they could just use the bookmark tabs.

Dungeon Master's Basic Rules is great too.

>>54081689

Tieflings are usually a red flag for campaigns for where I'm from.

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>>54081720
>>54081697
>>54081681
Talking of feats.

Human Variant, yes/no?

I want to run the revised Arcane Archer for this new group that invited me, but I'm not sure how to optimize my stats. This DM is letting us have 35 points for point buy instead of just 27.

Should I dip 2 levels of Ranger for Hunter's Mark? I'm going for max Dex/Con/Int and then just dumping the rest into Wis for saves anyway.

Should I go regular human and +1 to everything so I don't waste so many stats and end up with 9/16/16/16/14/12?
Should I just make a variant human and grab something like Resilient or Observant that increases Dex/Con/Int for 8/16/16/16/12/12? If so, which feat? Or should I just ignore int and grab Sharpshooter/Lucky at first level?

Is there another race I could go for that might give me similar results for better long-term/racial traits? Like High Elf or stout Halfling?

>>54081756
>This DM is letting us have 35 points for point buy instead of just 27.
This is the most fucking retarded thing I've ever heard. You can't fuck up this character. Just put a 15 in DEX, CON and INT and you'll be fucking fine.

I warn you the game's going to be boring as shit though.

>>54081741
Feats and Variant.
The only feats I feel are too centralizing are the -5 hit +10 damage ones and crossbow master, but even then it isn't to such a degree that it bothers me

>>54081733
>Tieflings are usually a red flag for campaigns for where I'm from.

Nah, I totally get it. As a guy who likes a lot of horror, I hate seeing tieflings, drow, etc. abused as the go-to class for edgelords.

Characters can be evil, even monstrous, yeah—but we're all in agreement that "edgy" always implies both a shallow laziness and tonal dissonance with what the rest of the party wants/expects, right?

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>All my players are playing the silent edgy types and won't interact with any npcs, care about any plot hooks, or do anything that doesn't result in them being instantly rewarded with loot

I've played in other campaigns with them and only one of them usually plays these types of characters. Why the fuck did they all decide to do it this time?

>>54081802
>Characters can be evil, even monstrous, yeah—but we're all in agreement that "edgy" always implies both a shallow laziness and tonal dissonance with what the rest of the party wants/expects, right?

Depends on the game and the group. If you join a new group with your Lawful Evil Tiefling Warlock of Satan then a lot of the time it's just fucking annoying even if it is well roleplayed.

Another important thing is you have to make your character work with the group, they shouldn't have to try and get you to help them. Making an evil character who has a real reason to play nice and work in a team is normally fine.

My current Evil character was tied with one of my friends character. I was effectively under control of a super powered Geas spell and about a month before the first session he found me. Due to some shoddy magic he became in control of me. We both agreed out of character for him not to make me do anything stupid because his character's a low INT, low WIS friendly nice guy.

>>54081741

I allow it because Humans need SOMETHING to compensate for a lack of racial traits but I allow feats on a case by case basis.

I had one variant human player take the Observant feat and so they wound up with a Passive Perception of 20 at level 1. So long as he was in the party, they were incapable of being surprised unless the surprise factor had an extra-high DC—but it wouldn't be fair to skew it just because of that one player.

I was disappointed because I like it when players think of their own traps/defense mechanisms while on the road and this player was just like "but i notice it."

Is PAM a bad idea if I'm going for a quarterstaff/shield Paladin?

pact of the tome or chain? I'm mostly wondering if the improved familiars chain has access to are worth it when I could take regular old find familiar as a ritual in my tome

>>54081790
This group has been playing for a while, so I dunno what the deal with their system is. I think that was just to encourage not having entirely combat-focused characters with 15/15/15/8/8/8 and make them a bit more well-rounded since it's hard to invest 4 whole stats into just combat. Or maybe the DM is just encouraging use of MAD builds.

>>54081756
You're ultimately going to be losing more by picking a non-variant human since instead of a skill, feat, and 2 (or 3 if the feat you chose gives one) points in ability scores that matter to you you're getting 2 or 3 (most classes) points in ability scores that matter to you unless you are playing some weird multiclass combination

>>54081741
I'm okay with variant humans, but I've been mulling over the idea of restricting the feats a player can take with the racial feature. Make it so they can't just immediately go for the big ticket stuff like sharpshooter or polearm mastery

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>Psionic resilience
>At the start of each of your turns, you gain temporary hit points equal to your Intelligence modifier if you have at least 1 hit point

So does this mean every turn I get 4+4+4+4 etc.

>>54081926

Ask yourself two questions:

1) Do I want my familiar to be able to attack?
2) Do I want an imp, pseudodragon, quasit, or sprite as my familiar?

If the answer to either is yes, then go Pact of the Chain.

>>54081988
No, temporary hitpoints are always replaced by one another, not stacked.

>>54079461
The game is designed to be run for half as many players as are in your group.

Abort and find another or split the one you're in.

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oh man is the guy spergin out about roasties and the evils of wimminz gone

>compares a bad group mate to a home invasion robbery
>calls the 14 year old girl he hates hot
>"that campaign was a masterpiece of DMing"
>literally says about his friend "if i could get him arrested i would have by now"
>even mentions the fact that his "friends" would pick the 14 year old over him...but grasps no real significance from this
>would resort to grabbing character sheets and ripping them
>his old group was literally his family because he had no friends to play with


this is the best general we've had in weeks

>>54081924
I recall reading Quarterstaff/shield is very good in combination with PAM.

>>54082016
Makes heroism pretty shit then.

>>54081997
I don't really care much about my familiar being able to attack, but the psuedodragon is my top pick out of any of the familiar choices, so I'm going with chain.

>>54082097
Not really, a flat damage reduction per turn is pretty good, especially when combined with damage resistance.

>>54080484
(you)

Can primates like gorillas and chimps cast magic? I googled it but didn't find a definitive answer.

Thinking of playing a druid I'm thinking Twilight or Shepherd since our DM allows UA what should you guy recommend and no I'm not interested in the circle of the moon.

>>54082282
Pretty sure there is a minium int requirement for spellcasting

>>54082312
Honestly, Land. Being able to regain spells is a pretty powerful effect.

>>54082327
does that include sorcery?

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>>54080790
>>54080664
Severe emotional disconnect is a common sign of autism. But that relates back to psychology somewhat so it looks like I played right into your hand.

>>54082365
Are you still casting spells?

>>54082327
That was the case in 3.5, but in 5e it only prevents multiclassing and the various other things that come with having shit for your primary stat

Am a monk what is the better choice?
Bracers of Defense
Robe of Displacement?

>>54082431
Why not both?

>>54082431
Those would probably be my first two choices for magic items as a monk, so you can't really go wrong with either, but the cloak is probably better since forcing disadvantage is about the same as giving the enemy a rough -5 compared to the bracers giving you 2 ac. You'd probably have to be attacked so many times for the bracers to be better overall that you'd probably be dead anyway

>> So forest druid it is.

>>54082365
I think innate spellcasting might be slightly different

Sun Soul Monk with Haste potion.

2 attacks to stun bonus action burning hands and radiant sunburst as the extra action. Has anyone pulled this off?

How do you cope with playing a completely inferiour race?

I really want to play a Shifter Druid but the race... It's so completely shit with 0 redeeming factors.

Jasminka isnt really fat right? She just a big girl. I doubt she has flabs.

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>>54079898
>DM is so much of a cuck he let's some bitch reroll hp dice
Every time someone decides to roll the hit dice and does it poorly I tell them to fuck off, when they ask to reroll, because they literally did it to themselvs.

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>>54080208

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Can i get some opinions on a custom monster block, and if the CR is correct?

>>54083222
I don't got any input on your stats, but I can sperg out on you about your grammar, if you like.

>>54083252
I mean, for the most part you'd be sperging about default MM grammar, since most of it is copy paste with number and type changes from the MM.

>>54080526
I'm currently doing 7. Wish it was 5

>>54083279
Look just change the "it's" to "its" in the multiattack and we can be friends.

>>54083321
The possessive "its" is without apostrophe, while "it's" refers to the conjunction for "it is". I blame public schools for nobody I talk to knowing this.

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>>54083334
Stupid English and its stupid nonsense rules.

>>54083347
Seems to have a small formatting error in the breath attack now, but ignoring that, what are you basing the stat block on?

>>54083361
I started off with a cr5, but realized it might be too strong for the party. At that point it was half way between red wyrmling and young white. I lowered some of the numbers, particularly the breath weapons damage, and didn't give it proficient saving throws. According to the calculator i used, its a bit weak defensively, but stronger offensively.

It's intended as a single encounter for party of 4 level 3s.

>>54083405
Do you intend for this to be a very hazardous encounter? Don't forget to take into account how many resources would possibly have been used at this point by the party. That breath attack could be extremely dangerous to an unlucky level 3, especially if they're a squishy class, possibly even one-shotting a party member on the first turn. If they've got healing resources left over, it might be okay, but it has the potential to spiral out of control quickly, depending on how you play the fight.
I guess you weren't really asking for a critique on the encounter, so I'll just say, from my admittedly limited experience, nothing in the stat block strikes me as particularly game-breaking one way or the other.

>>54083347
I feel like either the AC is too high or the CR is too low.

An Elephant, for example, is also CR 4 with about the same HP. It does a bit more damage per turn but has no breath weapon, and only 12 AC and no resistances or immunities.

I'd maybe lower the AC to 15?

Recently I've been reading through "The Complete X's Handbook" books from AD&D 2e.

I've gotta say they do a lot of fluff much, much fucking better. I'm reading the Druid book now and the way it organises the Circles, Druid Politics and the Shadow Circles is so cool. Actually made me excited to throw a plot involving a Shadow Circle disrupting the local city against my players.

I highly recommend people read these books if they're going to be doing something about a Race or Class as the focus for an adventure, or if they plan to play one.

The more I think of it, Warlock should just replace Sorcerer at this point.

>>54083596
The sorcerer really needed some unique spells, or a short rest mechanic or something to justify its existence. It's basically just a worse wizard that's better for certain multiclass combinations as is

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>>54083507
The current plan is that the group would be able to tackle this encounter as a stand alone, with opportunity to rest, after clearing a small mini-dungeon with easy encounters.

This is my first go at DMing for the group in this campaign, and were running a round table set up.

Party is satire bard, samurai fighter, swashbuckler rogue, protection cleric.

>>54083519
Alright, so i lowered the ac, dropped cold resist, and lowered fire immunity to resistance, but gave it proficiency in 2 weak and a strong saving throw.

Better, or still too much?

>>54083630
The Warlock beats it in spamming spells/magic, in being the "Weird" spellcaster in this edition, and in general coolness.

>A worse Wizard
Fuck it then. Drop Sorcerer, add it's archetypes to the list of Warlock Patrons, and then let Wizards cast metamagic again by spending two spell slots for the privilege while removing Arcane Recovery and its twin Natural Recovery.

>>54083596
>>54083630
All Sorcerer really needs is more spells that Wizard doesn't have, and some unique ones.

It already has access to some Cleric and Druid spells. A lot of Druid ones especially make sense to be given to a Sorcerer. I'm hoping they can fix the issues with Sorcerers when XGtE comes out, but we'll see.

>>54083734
What if we gave Sorcerors +2 Spell casts per day for each level?

>>54083734
It needs a stronger identity. Even with Bloodlines it feels thin and without real meat.

>>54083675
It's not like metamagic is some important role to the game anyway. It wouldn't be a tragic loss if you just outright got rid of sorcerers and didn't make any use of their features. I just don't like the class because it's the only one that truly feels like a trap. Non-UA rangers are more not flashy than completely bad, but sorcerers just feel worse than every other caster

>>54083746
I'm not feeling it. That would be a bitch to balance and their Sorcery Points can already do something similar.

Giving them the Spell-Point system from the DMG is always a good idea though. Really lets them mix it up compared to other more ridged classes.

>>54083759
Not really though, they have higher at-will damage then a Wizard and work better at buffing spells. They have a place especially in martial heavy parties where a twinned Haste or Enlarge can make a huge difference.

They should've had spells known equal to the Bard though. The amount they have makes it too hard to really do anything except be amazing support and cantrip spam.

Might be a stupid question, but what happens if Durable's x2 con minimum HP recovery is greater than your hit dice? Do you cap out?

>>54080966

Good game, shitty fanbase.

>>54081848

Sounds like they're all playing defensively.

>>54079353
You send them off to war, they'll either thrive, adapt or die off and be replaced along the way.

>>54082327

Not in 5e as long as you're single-classed.

>>54082282

Depends on setting.

Going by the Monster Manual the Ape, Baboon, and Giant Ape all lack language, which is going to be very limiting in 5e because of Verbal components. However, there are ways to grant speech with the easiest probably being the spell "Awaken."

Given that it's not that hard to drop class levels or feats on an intelligent NPC, it wouldn't be very difficult at all to create an Awakened primate with caster levels if the story or setting called for it. So the rules to do it are there, it just may or may not be setting appropriate.

Also, my next batshit insane high level magic user NPC is going to have an Awakened Gorilla
butler named Ape who knows Prestidigitation, Mending, and Unseen Servant. See if I fucking don't.

Is spiritual guardians a spell for any cleric? Or is it more so for war/tempest etc who should be in melee?

>>54084302
Spiritual Guardians, then Sanctuary and then cast Virtue each turn on yourself.

Congratulations you're now a portable walking death machine who is very hard to hit. Throw in Warcaster so they can't break your concentration as well.

If you want to go full meme, Light Cleric's channel divinity doesn't break Sanctuary and they can use their level 1 ability to make themselves even harder to hit.

This thread, lads! This fucking thread.

>>54084349
Is it really worth not getting hit to miss out on at least 3d8+4 damage a turn?

>>54084409
>Is it really worth not getting hit to miss out on at least 3d8+4 damage a turn?
If your over level 11? Depends

You can still cast other support spells, channel divinity and interact with the environment. So depends on the fight.

>>54084437
>level 11
Was thinking more spiritual weapon+sacred flame at level 5

>>54084448
Once again, really depends. Sometimes the best option's to bunker up and dodge every round just because Spiritual Guardians is dealing enough damage you don't want it disrupted. If you expect the fight to go a long time or have lots of enemies you want Spiritual Guardians up. Also the fact it's guaranteed to deal damage makes focusing on keeping it a safer option then dealing more damage.

The difference probably isn't worth stressing about though, do whatever and you'll be strong. Cleric's one of the better AoE damage dealers this time around.

Is sorcerer THAT bad?

>>54084503
Nah, just take damage spells and don't do wild magic except for !FUN! purposes.

>>54084503
Depends. If you're a good option like Shadow Sorcerer, Stone Sorcerer or Fire Dragon then it's alright. Storm and some other ones can also be fine.

If you're Wild then there's gonna be issues in a campaign.

>>54084503
It's a full caster so no. It's not the huge basket of versatility that is the Wizard, but it's still good.

>>54084516
>>54084522
Is wild magic heavily detrimental? Or is it just because it replaces class features you COULD have?

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>>54084516
>>54084522
>not rolling up a wild magic sorc and rolling weighted dice so you guarantee fireball the 1st level party

>>54078958
Game takes place in the Feywild thus far, so theology is a bit of a funny business when it comes to the local powers.
Hell has an embassy in Arctis Toronto, the city of winter, but heaven and the gods seem to keep mostly to themselves.
Presumably they'd be treated no different than them.

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>>54084516
>>54084522

>not playing wild magic with the d10000 table

>>54084600
A bit of both. The random chance isn't too bad but it's still a chance of fucking everyone over just for LOLRANDMB.

When it works in your favor it's just unreliable, compared to other options.

>>54084611
>Take a race with fire resistance and give yourself decent dex
>if you save, you stay up while everyone else dies

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>>54084631
>the nearest star explodes in a massive supernova

I thought the fireball thing on the d100 table was crazy.

Doesn't wild magic kind of have a really low chance of triggering, though?

>>54084631
It's shitty and full of lol randumb trash.

>>54084717
Tides of Chaos should make it happen at least once every fight. If your DM's not a giant dick anyway.

>>54084717
>Starting when you choose this origin at 1st level, your spellcasting can unleash surges of untamed magic. Immediately after you cast a sorcerer spell of 1st level or higher, the DM can have you roll a d20. If you roll a 1, roll on the Wild Magic Surge table to create a random magical effect. A Wild Magic Surge can happen once per turn.


At low levels you'll have a surge every 5 session

I'm creating a wizard and I'm not sure what school I should go as. Lore wizard looks fun but Diviner looks powerful, what would /5eg/ recommend.

Would worshipping an evil deity out of fear be enough to become a cleric for them?

>>54084830
You tell me, it's your game.

>>54084785
Diviner or lore wizard for pure minmaxing.

A better way of doing wild magic surge would to have affects such as:

1. 1d2, spell either expands or shrinks / affects twice as many creatures or fewer
2. Spell lingers/repeats for a while.
3. Spell is delayed, manifesting as a crystal that can be thrown and passed around at the target location until 1d4 turns after where it detonates.
4.Spell becomes a different spell, most likely of same level and class. Use a table for this.
And so forth.

The idea is that the spell you're casting itself changes, not some lolrandumb additional effect.

The only problem is it's a bit open to DM interpretation in some cases unless you define them very clearly. Also it might involve even more rolling.

>>54084830
Sure.
Sounds like a 'starts out pretty mild just doing it to save their family from some event but is slowly consumed by power unless others help him' set-up, though.
Depends on DM, though.

>>54079384
It's good. Have fun.

>>54080526
I'm DMing for 6 guys in roll20. I'm just hoping every week someone doesn't appear so we get dat dere 5 man team.

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>be playing draconic bloodline sorcerer
>my group already has a whizzard and a musicman
>this whizzard already said that his spells will be more focused on utility
>no need to ask the bard

Does that mean I can go full ham on fire/damage nuke spells without detrimenting the group as long as I don't forego the fundamentals like Shield?

What is the most useful element to pick for elemental mastery? I'm playing Lore wizard and intend to change every damage type to that one.

>>54084785
Don't overlook Illusion or Enchantment schools. The Illusion is weaker than the other traditions to start, but it becomes at least as strong as the best traditions later on, if not flat out better. Enchantment is also really good with Hypnotic Gaze that you can use with a Concentration spell to double up your disables, as well as Split Enchantments and Instinctive Charm being really powerful abilities in and of themselves.

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>>54084946
Embrace the fire

>>54084979
Force and radiant are the best thing to change your spells to. Best elemental damage type is Thunder

>>54085114
>Thunder
Why thunder?, I was thinking that acid or fire would be good because it stops some enemies from regenerating hp. Is thunder less likely to be resisted or something?

>>54084946
Basically what my group did
>Control monsters as wizard
>Sorcerer fireballs/disintegrates etc
>'your wizard is shit, you do no damage'
>repeat

>>54085130
Yes, fire, ice and poison are the most commonly resisted (and flat out ignored) elements in the game. Force and radiant are the least.

>>54085130
Correct.
If you know weakness and resistances, you can really exploit it. If you don't, just Force all day long.

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>>54085130
Doesn't include volos though

My players may be investigating an old abandoned mine that was hit by a meteorite about twenty years ago.

I want to have monsters that are affected by Adamantine or other exotic metals. How should I do it? I was thinking a super tough tribe of kobolds (like, bigger, stronger, resistant to damage). Any other ideas?

>>54085214
kobalds pimped out in meteor armor using meteor arrow heads dealing extra radiant damage or something.

>>54085244
Not him, but wouldn't that mean the kobolds are using the meteorite's materials, instead of "being affected" by the meteorite?

resistance to radiant damage + unarmed radiant damage would do it, I think.

>>54083814
Bump

>>54085377
>>54083814
Yeah, you just cap out.

>>54084946
Wizards are always utility unless they're faggots.
If your wizard doesn't take fireball he's just pitying you and nerfing himself.

Sorcerers were never good at utility outside of choosing a buff like haste to twin.

>>54085377
>>54085398
I think that the way its written you then get 2x your con modifier.

Don't forget that if you use a hit die to recover HP you also add your Con modifier though. So a Wizard (d6) with 18 Con (+4) would recover 8-10 HP whenever he uses a hit die.

So if I'm a single classed Bladesinger and actually do all the melee bullshit, I'll still be decent-ish right? I don't care about topping damage or anything, just having fun.

>>54085476
Makes sense.
Was considering it for a Stone Sorc, so theres a considerable difference between just recovering a 6 on my d6 or a 10.

>>54085556
Yeah.
Personally I'd dip a level of figthing-man for a combat style but it's just con save, 1AC/2dmg you'll miss.

>>54084946
Just twin blight and fuck 1 target up to the moon and back.

>>54071623
Oathbreaker isn't just "I broke my oath," it's "I swore to serve dark powers, or wish to destroy everything, or flood the world with demons, or some other cartoon villain 'motivation'" on top of that.
>>54071757
Nonexhaustively, I think people just don't like the balance on the options we have.
>1
Ek. Ritual caster feat.
>2
4ele monk, bladelock, EK
>3
Paladins
>4
Bladelock if you choose to ignore your defense.
>5
Yes, tons.

>>54071948
I feel like you have that completely backwards. A warlock can be damn near anything, so anything can be a warlock, but a paladin is always a paladin.

>>54072832
B should be the Path of Exile passive tree, just for fun.
>>54072964
>their options boil down to which target to hit or whether or not to use a resource to deal more damage or apply a special effect
If you don't like picking targets and spending resources to deal more damage or other effects, then D&D is definitely not the game for you. I don't know what games that leaves you. No sarcasm intended.

Looking for character advice.

I have an idea for a Fiend-Tome-lock who was born as a pact with dark powers (current iteration is parents had trouble conceiving, couldn't afford the help of proper priests/clerics). His soul was forfeit the day he breathed his first breath. However, I want to play him like a sort of reluctant Doomsayer. He knows of the cosmic struggle, he's convinced things will probably tip in the balance of Evil with enough time. So he adventures to delay the tipping point, as it were.

I'd like to play him as a reluctant person, who only uses his fiendish powers whenever its absolutely necessary (since Warlocks have almost no slots anyways, I think it fits). Instead of relying on Eldritch Blast, he uses more 'normal' cantrips, and tries to combat evil where he finds it, trying to make his life karmically neutral.

Stupid idea, or is there a way to make it work? Biggest struggle is, "Why wouldn't he just stop being a Warlock and try to become a Paladin?".

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One of my players last night shit his pants because I introduced an encounter with a monster that was immune to Charm because it made absolute sense lore wise for it to be. There were multiple layers to the encounter with a pack of gnolls storming in from the bottom and everyone was weaponless sans two other players. When he couldn't charm the boss he proceeded to whine and moan about how I am spiting him moreso than the rest of the group. What do you think, /5eg/? Was I in the wrong? I just wanted to challenge him. It's not my fault his character is a full on Enchantment Bard. He could have at least used Vicious Mockery.

>>54085915
Well gnolls aren't immune to charm so you were in the wrong.

>>54085942
Nah, the gnolls weren't the ones that were immune. It was a humanoid that was already possessed.

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>>54085134
>wizard
>shit
That player should be taught a lesson.

>>54085915
What monster because it sounds like you're being a little bitch on purpose.

>>54085942
>an encounter with a monster
I don't think the pack of gnolls was the creature immune to charm.
>>54085915
And no, sometimes players get fucked. We had a lighting sorcerer that became useless around shambling mounds.

>>54085868
>Instead of relying on Eldritch Blast
Don't do that unless you're going bladelock.

>>54085978
>building encounters around player's abilities is bad
Fuck off m8

>>54085990
Then don't get triggered, mate. Stay mad tough and stop being a little bitch.

>>54085974
My Cleric calls me shit all the time too. But I'm a Loremaster about to hit 6, and then I'll challenge him for a duel of honor.
And we also need to raise some money, so I intend to turn this into an event of sorts, since we have an entertainer in the party that could make an intro and perform some dance or something with the Monk, then the Dragonborn could spit some fire, and end the show with the Arcane vs Divine showdown.

>>54085978
I don't like spiting players. I want them to wake up and play the game and not trounce all over everything because they like to meta-game. It was slightly buffed Incubus-like monster. I used a CR calculator to hammer it out.

>>54085868
This >>54085986

>>54085980
That's what I wanted to go for and the one time he thought he could do something he got shat on, so maybe he's just regretting going full Enchantment.

>>54086020
If the players are being shits then they should get slapped but you and other DMs shouldn't go full autistic.

>>54086046
>>54086046
>>54086046
>>54086046
new thread

>>54085779
>Poe tree
That just big, it lacks the sheer chaos, dead ends and returns to start.

>>54084057
>not making the batshit insane high level magic user the ape butler, with a faux magic user as his "master"

>>54084707
Seems like a good way to kill a campaign off of chance