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Models for Dominant Subhuman Players edition

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First for femmarines+sisters are shit
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>>54068914
Make Warhammer 40,000 lewd again!
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Typhus's Destroyer Hive says it "hits on hit rolls of 5+ (even when firing Overwatch) regardless of any modifiers"

Does that mean it ignores his BS of 2+ and only hits on 5s or does it mean that it can't be reduced below hitting on 5+?
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Post yfw 8th dropped and you're a Guard player with over 100 infantry.
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nth for lewd sisters
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6th for CUTEDAR.
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>>54068973
>mfw bought several sets of chaos cultists last edition for funsies
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>>54068843
Well herald of nurgle gives +1 strength to them when nearby but he's obviously slower than them so he will need to advance a lot to keep up.
He can also cast "Virulent Blessing" to give them +1 to wound and double damage on 7+ wound rolls.
So that gives bloat drones 2d6 auto hits at effective 3+ to wound rerolling 1s with a small chance of a crit against toughness seven vehicles, which is most vehicles! They still only do a little bit of armor though so that sucks.
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>can't decide on an army

I've got Grass is Greener Syndrome bad, friends.
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>Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors get preferred enemy against psykers instead of Imperium units
So much for the enemy within amirite?
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Nth for Guard Anons are cancer.
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>>54068973
>mfw I'm an Ork player
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Dark Angels are homo traitor lala men
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>>54069031
Don't talk about the Inquistion stuff
Hell beside IG Index 2 is a mess of questionable rules
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Anyone who rolls a 7 in this thread gets decimated
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>>54068997
well then.
guess i'm adding a herald to the drone squad.
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>mfw playing grey knight
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>>54069068
Stop wasting men.
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>>54068943
I, too, disagree with this pairing
Everyone knows that Sisters would only want the bony joy of the Emperor himself! Not yuri marines !
>>54068978
Sisters a QT!
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Plasma pistols pretty good now yea?
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>>54069068
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>>54069025
which options do you have, friendo?
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Tfw went to local GW and assembled some minis, chatted with the locals and agreed to trade my primary for his Death Guard.

How long does it usually take you guys to assemble models? I spent around 3 hours at the store and did 7 plague marines and the bell guy, felt slow.
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Who are more cancerous, SoB anons or IG anons?
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>>54069075
He looks like one of the Fallout power armour guys
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>>54069109
IG anons seem to be pretty nice to me
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>>54069097
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>>54068987
> :3
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>>54069109
You aka. Manletcucks
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>>54069109
Do shitposters who bait with SoB count? If not then Guard.
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>>54069109
>IG anons
>post game reports

>SoB anons
>beat the ground that was previously a dead horse again and again and again

not really a fair comparison
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>>54069109
Anons like you asking this cuck questions
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>>54069099

Chaos Marines, Primaris Marines, Necrons, or Craftworld Eldar.
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we got any unit reviews yet? I always liked reading them for armies I dont play
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>>54069158
0-4 for Chaos.

5-9 for Necrons.
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>>54069087
QT 3.14s indeed
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>>54069152
Seeing as 90% of SoB are shitposters, like that guy who does the Shitsters of Basshole and so on, it isn't them. It isn't IG either. Anybody asking these questions is just trying to stir shit. What happened to /tg/'s self-moderation shit?

>>54069122
Indeed they are.

>captcha: empurre georgia
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>>54069109
IG fags are a little self adsorbed and can get a little circlejerky but are mostly tolerable. Also the conscript meme was cancer but still reasonable.
SoB fags will never ever stop fucking asking for plastic SoB which is annoying but liveable.

The answer is Chaosfags (specifically khornefags and slaaneshfags) and the people constantly trying to bait the SoBfags.
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>>54069182
Well when I post SoB list or report how I did in a game no one gives a damn.

But oh boy do I get (you) if I intentionally shitpost
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>>54069182
>>54068987
who done gone and made these?
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>>54069214
>being this deprived of attention in real life
You might want to seek help anon
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Am I a bandwagon jumper for wanting to play Death Guard?
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>>54069182
careful the DAchink might report you for images like that
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>>54069068
So glad I'm safe.
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Sold all my stuff early in 6th, wanted to get back on the table in the shortest amount of time with the least effort possible while making a fluffy list. Pls r8.
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>>54069233
depends, why do you want to play them
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>>54069232
Making a point that shitposting gets more (you) than actual 40k related stuff in the 40k general

Also anon hug me I want to feel a trap
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>>54069158
Primaris Marines, lad.
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>>54069180
That looks like it's from a bigger picture. Porn by her expression. Source me homie.

>>54069223
Dunno lad. Sorry. I saved them from my travels. Not enough Cutedar pictures.

>>54069239
Who's the DAchink?
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>>54069074
Virulent Blessing is just such a darn good power. On Daemon Princes, Daemon Engines and Great Unclean Ones it lets you rip up vehicles, on Plaguebearers or Plague Drones it makes you far deadlier than expected. At times its +1 strength and + some crit, but for example bringing plaguebearers up from 5+ to 4+ to wound vs vehicles is a much bigger boost!
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>>54069265
>wanting to hug a mentally ill person
Please actually do seek help, for the good of both this general and yourself
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>>54068987
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>>54069269
A shitposter from a while back that no one except for this one autist cares about anymore.
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So is it just me or is Ahriman terrible? He loses his re-rolls on invun saves of 1 on himself when he takes his disk.
His psychic phase has lost all its flavour and I dont just mean the spells available to him.
And hes got no real battlefield roll with him being a bad buffmander for ranged but not that strong in melee.
Whats the point of this guy now? No infiltration now either. 8th is just so bland that if you dont have a good enough re-roll aura theres no point taking that HQ.
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>>54069282
I want you anon! I want to hug your mentally ill body!
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>>54069269
i wish i could sauce you the sister, but i dunno where its from myself.
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>>54068987
> Eldar are for lewd
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>>54069304
I'm not a trap. Neither am I a homosexual or a transvestite of any sort. Sorry but you're barking up the wrong tree.
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>>54069269
I need more pin-up art of 40k

My Imperial flyers need some pin up!
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Why were SoS released as a 4 unit army with no HQ, that seems like a really weird thing to do.
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>>54069233
Yes. But they have kickass new models, and cool new rules, so it's not a bad bandwagon to jump on *cough* Talons of the Emperor *plague cough*

Frankly I just like Slaanesh too much to go and get all plagued. I like my spaceAIDS to at least be a result of something *fun*.
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>>54069327
Anon! Do not denied our love!
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>>54069327
>Trap deteced
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Does anyone have a PDF link for the death guard booklet that came with the Dark Imperium set?
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>>54069276
i'm really torn now, cos i'd fluffed my death guard as essentially acting like they were still in the great crusade but this demon stuff is too good to pass.
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>>54069256
Different guy, but same boat.

I love 30k Death Guard and their new models are aesthetic as fuck, plus I am hype for the return of Mortarion (Typhus a shit)

Is that enough to justify my bandwagon?
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>>54069269
>DAchink
Captain autismo, you'll recognise him by his multiquoting, sealioning, reactionary viewpoint and use of /pol/ pastebin links

to be fair he hasn't actually posted about DA in a while
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>>54069348
*detected
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>>54069347
Can't help with that I'm sorry. I can however decide not to deny you (You)s.
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>>54069353
>are you literally me?

reason enough to play i say
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>>54069256

Nurgle is cool as hell, and tough, footslogging marines is my ideal army.
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>>54069361
<3
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>>54069299
I kept off /tg/ for ages due to so many shitposters. So far I've gleamed there is so faggot forcing a terrible meme about SoB. There was a guy spamming cheetah pictures, was that in relation to DA? I think that's familiar.

>>54069323
Darn. Thanks anyway. I'll have a search in a sec.
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>>54069358
Literally what? Not everyone you don't like is a specific fucking chinese DA player who shitposts on 4chan
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>>54069337
They were a neato 30k faction FW were developing and the GW team went "We'll be having some of that nerds" and released half the shit they had planned in plastic. Actual SoS have HQ, Elites and an actual unique transport. Cyber-doggos with meltagun mouths are just the best.
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>>54069358
It is safe to assume anyone that multi quotes has some level of autism.
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>>54069330
I can help with that.

>>54069324
Sometimes
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>>54069358
I don't know about you but I think you're describing multiple people there.
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>>54069351
Well if you wait till the new Termies and Mortarion come out you will likely have a lot of really good shit to work with on that front. Maybe consider a Land Raider to go with it?
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>>54069369
then it ain't bandwagoning to play 'em
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>>54069109
IG anon's paint their armies
: ^ )
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>>54069389
Gotta love Nachomon...
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>>54069330
The best one imo.
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>>54069398
i was considering a LR, but i think i'd rather give the death guard vindicators for maximum footslog.


tfw i got the resin plague termies ready for 8th and i can't use them
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>>54069415
To be fair IGfags can get models, You know, because more than 12 guys and 3 people's girlfriends play them.
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>>54069358
You realize that multiquoting is a common occurence on /pol/ as well as an awful lot of other boards right? And that anyone from /pol/ or said other boards is more likely than not to bring that behavior here?
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Won't bother quoting now, you'll see it anyway.
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Imperium: Sisters of Battle
Chaos: Daemonettes
Xenos: Aeldari Sluts

Which side has the best fucking waifus?
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>>54069358
I don't recall DAfag having anything to do with /pol/. Proofs or GTFO
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>>54069450
Mechanicus >>54069430
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>>54069450
>implying the best Imperial waifu faction are the worst faction in the game and not guardswomen
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>>54069374
>your talking about a shitposter? STOP TALKING ABOUT ME REEEW
>this much autistic projection
Wew
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>>54069374
Well obviously, but his post style is pretty distinctive.

I don't like cheetah fag either but it's not difficult to tell the difference between the two
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>>54069353

I'm in the same boat too, in the end I decided to jump in because there's actually a good reason to bandwagon: the Konor Campaign. It's one thing to join a million other people all playing the same, new army, it's another to do it because you want to participate in an event where it makes sense.
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>>54069450
Out of those 3? Probably a tie between Aeldari and SoB
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Can you buff Daemon Engines with Chaos daemon psychic powers? I dont know which keywords are important here. Is it faction keywords or just keywords?
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>>54069421
Yeah. He's done a few, forgot to post this one.
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>>54069474
So I guess every single other person who's called out your logical fallcy in branding a huge spectrum of people as a specific shitposter is also DAfag. Good job.
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>>54069439
I suddenly want Peach sisters with martian bases
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>>54069475
Weren't there a bunch of people speculating that DAfag and Cheetahfag were the same shitposter attentionwhoring a while back?

Also his post style is pretty common for /pol/tards or anyone who frequently engages in online debates really so I wouldn't call it "distinctive".
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Does anyone have experience with Fallen in the new edition? It seems losing out on <Legion> <Mark of Chaos> and swapping DTTFE for the rerolling 1s on shooting are the only differences between them and Chosen.
I have a bit of a fondness for them and thought i might make some, but i don't know what kind of build would be best for them.
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The main protagonist of another franchise you like is suddenly thrown into the 40k universe due to warp fuckery. How do they fare?
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>>54069349
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>>54069476
>tfw just read about that campaign
Rip my wallet, time to find out if my local store is doing those games and if so I am a #mortarionmissle now
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>>54069379
I don't see anything else for them on FW, was it squatted?
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>>54069542
MOOOOODS!
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>>54069517
I get one meme but what's the other?
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>>54069542
jfc how horrifying
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>>54069303
He's an Exalted Sorceror with more smites and +1 to casting.

I guess that's what you're paying for.
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>>54069109
Better question. Who would win in a fight between GGA and RGG?
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>>54069535
Thank you! :)
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>>54069545
Pretty sure they've not got their models yet.
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>>54069591
>you will never see this in 40k
feels bad man
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>>54069554
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>>54069460
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53120416/#53122494
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>>54069602
We might do. IA14 was suppose to bring 30k models to 40k. These are their next models. Remember they have rules in 30k, I suspect when their range is out they'll get 40k ones.
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>>54069571
>He's an Exalted Sorceror with more smites and +1 to casting
He gets the same amount of smites just the +1. Casters still cant cast the same spell more then once. Would be nice if someone had a special rule that allowed them to by-pass this. Oh well I guess we'll never know.
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Someone last thread suggested converting this beauty into a Daemon prince. Now I'm curious on possible rules. Is it legal to convert the hammer into an axe, remove the shield for malefic talons, AND take the mounted bolt gun as a warp bolter?
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what 40k HQ is even worthy of leading Custodes into battle?
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>>54069627
Just proxy it and be done.
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>>54069528
Don't forget that DA get a buff when fighting you but you don't get any buff when fighting them
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>>54069642
Literally none of them. We deserve a tribune.
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>>54069642
Inquisitor, Girlyman, take your pick.
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>>54069645
Yes but I'm asking if it's legal to have all three of those weapons at once
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>>54069642
Girlyman has a Tribune with him. In 30k, Tribunes are super powerful, near Primarch level. Valdor is only better by dint of giving everybody Deep Strike free of charge. So buy the Tribune model from Warhammer World and you can use them. Just hope 40k brings rules for them.

Might as well carry on with my 40k stuff...
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You have 2 attacks. Your strength is 4 and your WS is 3+.

You have a power fist on one hand, giving you S8, AP -3 and D3 damage, but you hit on 4s.

You have a sword that lets you reroll failed wound rolls.

Why would you ever use your 2 attacks on anything but power fist? I don't get it. Why put two melee weapons on someone when one of them is so much better?
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>>54069663
>This model may replace its hellforged sword with a daemonic axe
>This model may take a warp bolter
So I'm assuming yes.
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>>54069669
That is very shitty picture.
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>>54069669
i have a tribune, but they aren't a thing in 40k (yet)
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>>54069613
Nothing about that suggests him being particularly reactionary or using pastebins though. For all we know he's just a /r/the_donald kekistani retard.
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>>54069573
Who?
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>>54069661
Roubouttoue Guildman a LoW
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>>54069627
Yes, it is legal to take that set of gear. You ALWAYS have one set of talons as a prince, you can have a warp bolter if you feel like it or not and your other hand is an axe, sword or second talon.
That setup would be effective.
>>54069674
To annoyingly cost you 3 points on your plague champion. To be honest the plaguesword is useful against toughness 3 opponents like guardsmen or some eldar and shit but it is insanely situational.
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>>54069623
ia14 will bring some AdMech models to 40k. SoS and Custodes have nothing to do with IA14
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>>54069719
Then an Inquisitor of your choice will do just fine
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>Troop slots alone are 99 models
Oh boy, at least i'll get to practice my painting skills i suppose
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>>54069158
anyone who's about to get an army should just ignore SM completly, this crap is 90% of players in my country ffs
t. chaos fag
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Does the ministorum have female priests?

I want an old hag priestess and I need to know if it's canon.
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>>54069697
B U L L Y.

>>54069705
Yeah but do you have Ixaor Hale or whatever the guys name is from Warhammer World?

>>54069729
I think he's aware. Hence the 2nd part of his sentence. He was commenting, imo, on the fact 30k will get 40k rules at some point.
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What is the single most over the top piece of artwork for 40k that you guys have ever seen?
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>Release interesting fluff surrounding imperial knights to justify selling these bigass models
>No rules or models related to any of this fluff in 7th or 8th
No household guard, no difference between houses or being a freeblade, no difference between admech and general imperium aligned knights, nothing. They really didn't care beyond wanting to compete with FW in the "big model" department did they?
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>>54068964
>regardless of any modifiers
How much clearer can it get mate?
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>>54069591
> "AND SO WE SUMMONED SHAI-HULUD, THE GREAT WORM OF ARRAKIS. MAY HIS PASSING CLEANSE THIS WORLD".jpg
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>>54069109
Just for you, here is my latest game pic. As to the answer to your question, xenos. Just look what they are doing to this tread.
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Can someone please suggest/supply links for any good 40k audio books or just things to listen to?

I listend to Carrion Throne at work and it was great. Any other good ones?
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>>54069772
pandorax campaign for particularly long days
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>>54069750
Look at these fucking sluts ready to be corrupted by Slaanesh
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>>54069749
I assume so. Women who weren't orphans and sent to the Schola but who had faith? Maybe a world is based around women being leaders only? It's 40k man. I don't remember any specific instances of one being named, however.
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>>54069772
>>54069778
I will second pandorax, pretty good. Got a link to carrion throne? Itd make my day tomorrow awesome
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>>54069780
>sluts

sounds like more bullying to me.
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>>54069573
Literally who? Are you talking about Bobby G and someone else? Why abreviate like a fuckhead?
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>>54069737
Custodes barely listen to Malcador, i can't imagine them being lead by the inquisition
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Is it possible to play Craftworld Eldar without being a faggot?
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>>54069769
>those bright grreen necrons
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>>54069769
>those necrons
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>54069819
no
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>>54069626
Smites are excepted. Smites are machinegun.
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>>54069819
Even if you aren't a faggot you'll still be an incompetent space kike.
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>>54069769
>Monolith RED
>Ark Red
>Warriors BRIGHT GREEN
JDNFBFIFYSVEBEKFJCN
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>>54069844
No, how that rule regarding Smite works is that multiple psykers can cast the same power (Smite) in the same turn. They can't do that with any other power and they can't cast any power multiple times a turn.
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>>54069848
>incompetent space kike.

Anon, thats the Dangles
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Think I'm going to try running this list next week, its a bit terminator heavy for my taste (still hard to accept that 10 terminators is heavy at 2000 points).

I split one strike squad into two just to get the battalion detachment. Still have 41 points left, trying to see what I can do with them.

Grey Knights

1959/2000

HQ

Grand master Voldus: 190

Elites:
9 man Paladin squad: 579
2x daemon hammers
2x psycannons

Paladin ancient: 142

Troops:

Strike squad: 237
2x daemonhammer
1x psycannon
1x psilencer


Strike squad: 130
1x daemon hammer: 13
1x psycannon: 14

Strike squad: 120
1x daemon hammer
1x psilencer: 4

Fast attack:
Interceptor squad: 274
2x incinerators


Dedicated Transport:
Twin LC Razorback: 115


Twin AC Razorback: 100

Rhino: 72
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>mfw Smite is superior to Blood Boil

It hurts.
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>>54069860
The DAngels are space catholics. That's why they go around persecuting people and killing people aimlessly. Eldar (and some parts of Mechanicus) are true proper space kikes.
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>>54069450
As a Slaaneshi Chaos fag I have to say;
actually probably Aeldari unless the Daemonette produces her own drugs and shares them with me I can't afford to keep up with a Daemonettes drug abuse
if daemonette comes with bonus drugs or supplies them and isn't draining monetary resources then daemonette wins
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>>54069627
That hammer hand
Such logical engineering.
This can't be a GW sculpt.
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>>54069874
Wrong.

1. SoB/Ad Minis = Space Catholics
2. IG = Space Protestants
3. Space Marines = Jews
4. Ad Mech = Orthodox Christians
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>>54069879
You're right, it's a FW sculpt. :^)
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>>54068914
...Is it me or is this edition even more unbalanced and janky than 7th?

I legit do not get some of these point costs. It's like GW just ported everything over as is without thinking about how the change in how WS works makes all high WS models way, WAY less valuable than they once were.

It also seems like everyone but Marines has lost a fuckton of options.

Am I hallucinating or is this edition just legitimately really poorly thought through?
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>>54069871
Blood boil can be aimed at a specific target though, rather than autotargetting the closest enemy. Can be used to snipe characters, or just not waste you power on chaff.
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>>54069844
No youre wrong. Smite can be cast multiple times but not by the same caster.
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>>54069885
>ad mech
>literally have a unit named after jewish assassins
>not at least partial space jews

Also how the fuck are SMs space jews, that makes no sense.
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>>54069627

My suggestion was proxy as a hellbrute with twin heavy bolters and hammer. I have 2 of the buggers and will be doing so or you could proxy as a contemptor but their weapon loadouts are less wysiwyg.
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>>54069897
Be specific.
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Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>54069068

Please papa petur don't decimate me
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>>54069900
Yeah but the damage Smite can do is better. I mean, unless you're bringing Mephiston, you're gonna be casting the other two powers a turn ANYWAY.
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>>54069754
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>>54069912
In real life, Jews recognise that Jesus is a man. Not the Son of God or God. But a man. A very powerful and respectable man, maybe, but not the Son of God/God.

In 40k, Space Marines (bar BT and maybe Fire Angels) see the Emperor as a man, a well respected and powerful man, but not a God.

Every other faction sees him as a God in their own way.
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>>54069879
Right? It gets me hard as fuck just looking at it, Fucking pneumatic hammer just obliterating anything it hits, hnnnnnn
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>>54069937
>In 40k, Space Marines (bar BT and maybe Fire Angels) see the Emperor as a man, a well respected and powerful man, but not a God.
wut
That's almost definitely completely false.
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>>54069859
> I just bought a set of exalted sorcs to go with my two termies and Ahriman
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>>54069870

Nevermind, cant even get battalion since I only have 1 HQ.

Drop one paladin (of which I got the points cost wrong previously), add one brotherhood champion.

1997/2000
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>>54069879
>Most retarded axe
>45 degree range of motion
JUST
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>>54069948
Okay, go on then. Tell me why it's false. It literally says in the fluff that Space Marines, bar the two I listed, do not recognise the divinity of the Emperor. He is a man, nothing more.

>Yet strangest of all is the Black Templars’ absolute conviction, in contrast to all other Space Marine Chapters, that the Emperor is a god. The Chapter’s worship of the Emperor as a divine being is seen by many as abhorrent, yet it has led to them forming strong ties with the Ecclesiarchy, and lends them frenzied strength in battle.

>All Other Space Marines
>ALL OTHER
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>>54069948
No it's true.
A bit worrying what with Guilliman being a convert only after a hundred years of crusading.
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>>54069914
Dude, look at the Space Marines wargear page.

Then look at almost any other faction's equivalent. Everyone but Marines has lost every kind of cool relic or ability to really customize.
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>>54070018

Marines just have a lot of toys for different units, you cant even buy artificer armor for captains yet.
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>>54070018
I don't buy that.

Marines have your classic weapons sure, but other factions have things like meltas, like lascannons, like bolters.

Just with different bells and whistles.
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>>54069897
Welcome to beige edition.

Many people are hopeful they'll bring it back with the codexes.
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>tfw no Eldar slave waifu
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>>54069870
A librarian would help those terminators a lot more than voldus.
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>>54069982
>implying he doesn't spin around like a fan
look at this pleb.
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> mfw Mortarion and Termies come out in a couple weeks.
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>>54069982
You do know that Dreadnought fists can spin 360, right? There is literal video game animations proving this as well.

>JUST

Oh you're from /tv/.
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>>54070055
I WANT TO FUCKING CONSUME THEM
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>>54070125
NOT SOON ENOUGH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i honestly just want them to come out as soon as possible so we can move on to the next primarch already
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>>54069710
nah the pastebins were used for the homos are causing the downfall of society and Hitler was a swell guy conversations. Well at least I hope he was using the /pol/ bins. The idea that a single individual would go out an collect the links independently is rather worrying
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>>54069870
Don't worry about terminator heavy. I've run pure terminator GK and won all but one game so far, and not close calls either.
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>>54070140
BAD SLAANESH! NOT FOR NOM NOMS!

Im running low on non-r34 content related to Eldar
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>>54070154
I recognize the homo shit, it's from pastebins unless he shitposts in an awful lot of places outside of /tg/. Not sure about the Hitler stuff. Either way I highly doubt that's him.
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>>54070125
And plastic Plague Marines and a tank.

Bloat-Drones would be nice too but I don't think they were mentioned.
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What is the relationship between Marneus Calgar and Roboute Guilliman like?
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>>54069450
Come to Commorragh we have all the waifus. Usually in chains, but thats details.
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>>54070180
cold, roboute hasn't returnd calgar's calls
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Oh by the way I found this >>54069180 source.

I dunno what to say, really, about the content...
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you think a hellbrute/hellforged contemptor list would do ok? like the idea of brutes and warpsmiths rocking it down the table
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>>54069107
That is slow. Probably 3 hours for the whole set, including scraping flash off.
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>>54069450
Khorne has the best waifu.
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>>54070248
I would post some porn to support this (at least the decent art) but mods won't like it. Somebody did a good drawing from a /qst/ thread (at least the tag on the booru said so).
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>>54070248
Not in 40k unfortunately.
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>>54070271
In 40k nurgle got the juiciest one.
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>>54070265
>>>/h/
Start a thread there and link it here.
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>>54070005
Space marines look at the Emperor as the ideal man to aspire to be as.
Jews sold Jesus out after he called them out for being twats, then tried to take the moral high ground about it. And still do not recognize Jesus as anything special, in the broad scheme of things.
The analogy is immensely flawed.
>>54070018
Anon, you do know that SMs schtick is how their boot infantry are very modular, while the infantry of other armies isn't in their gear, but bound into their different units?
It's part of why SM have been a poor army since day 1.
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>>54070271
>>54070292
>>54070265
I just made a quick imgur link of two specific ones.

http://imgur.com/a/u7ny5

I have fuck loads of curated R34, where I take the 'best' and save them. And some of the 'best' are utter shit but it's better than nothing. Hilariously this daemon one is from /qst/ as I said and is prob one of the best drawn ones.
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>>54070271
Fine I'll settle for the slave girl from the iron warriors novel
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>>54070180
>another dark hour for ultramar
>chaos kicking your ass
>guilliman gets revived by eldar and a magos
>turn over the chapter to your demigod boss no one knew would come back
>demoted to guarding the home system while Cato gets to be part of guillimans honorguard
>have to put down a revolt on ultramar which hasn't happened in years

being calgar is suffering
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Played another 2000 Pt game yesterday against the Daemonic Hordes who came for vengeance against the hated Imperial Guard after they shattered the first force from the Thousand Sons. Did you guys play any games lately and up for a batrep today?
Any other Guard anons in the thread?
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Ok /tg/, I need your help on this one.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/06/40k-bonus-attacks-rules-conundrum.html

I know a couple of assholes who are arguing that Trygons should get +3 attacks. So, which is it?
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>>54070311
Fucking nice! This is the kind of fucking hobby I enjoy!
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>>54070326
Civil War: Ultramar when?
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>>54070336
>(((BOLS)))
"no"
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>>54069573
No seriously, who? Im all for power level discussion if you clarify who you refer to.
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so, can hellforged leviathan equip two guns instead of arms or just one? (rule says "may replace CLAW" not claws)
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>>54070342
Nah, Civil War Mechanicus. We'd finally be able to go all out with the superweapon bullshit that we're not allowed to use on anyone else because the Mechanicus is a new faction playing second fiddle and the 30k Mechanicum is not allowed to win anything ever. Seriously, not one victory.
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>>54070336
This webside is run by ppl who suck dogs dick.
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>>54070370
It's run by Canadians? Jesus christ how horrifying
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Step 3.1: Choose Unit to Shoot With explicitly states " You may not pick a unit that Advanced or Fell Back this turn, or a unit that is within 1" of an enemy unit."

Does this not mean you will never have an opportunity to fire your Assault Weapons, since it only allows the individual model to fire, but you can never pick the unit that model is in due to step 3.1?

Likewise for Pistols for units within 1" of an enemy. The rule allows MODELS to fire but you'll never be legally able to pick the unit for shooting in the first place.
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>>54070365
What do you think?
>The line above says replace One or BOTH claws for drills while the gun option says replace one claw...
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>>54070332
Present and feeling PEACHY.
Probably no games till the wekeend but I'll be sporting a Basilisk, Wyvern, and Manticore to get a feel for which is most cozy.
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>>54070377
I dont know their nationality, its just those particual people who run this site provide fellation to canines.
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>>54070377
I got it.
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>>54070337
Yup. Shame I can't just post it here consequence free.

>>54070365
I thought that too but I don't think so. Ask FW to clarify if you're worried.
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>>54070408
Well considering that doggy blowjobs also happen to be legal in Canada I'd say they're probably leafs.
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>>54070392
The special rules of those weapons specifically overwrite the main rulebook rules. It's just that, in general, those rules apply, but not when overruled.
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>>54068973
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>>54070428
Lol did not knew that. Funny.
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Post what you're using as Wound Dials for the new edition.

Had these custom made for my Brotherhood of Nod themed Scions army (Tauroxes and Knights) and using the Litko wound counters in the bag to the right for my multi-wound Scions like the Primes. Still need to touch up the paint a little on the dials.
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Anyone with shadow spectres can tell me how big of a slot they need in a foam bag?
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>>54070449
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bestiality-legal-canada-supreme-court-a7073196.html
Truly the world's most progressive country
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>Reivers disrupt the hearing of the enemy with vox-amplified war cries and audio-sonic weaponry
LOYALIST NOISE MARINES
WE HAVE LOYALIST NOISE MARINES
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>>54070497
>Reivers disrupt the hearing of the enemy with vox-amplified war cries and audio-sonic weaponry

WE HAVE MARINE BANSHEES
WE HAVE MANSHEES
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Tournament List for this weekend - thoughts?

Army Faction Keyword - TYRANIDS
Army Points Total - 1999
Command Points - 7
Total Units - 14

Primary Detachment - TYRANIDS Battalion Detachment (+3 Command Points)

HQ1 - Swarmlord (300) Catalyst, The Horror - [300] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
HQ2 - Broodlord (162) Monstrous Rending Claws (0) The Horror - [162] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
Troops1 - 20 Genestealers (20x10) Rending Claws (20x2) Scything Talons (20x0) Toxin Sacs (20x4) - [320] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
Troops2 - 27 Hormagaunts (27x5) Scything Talons (27x0) Adrenal Glands (27x1) - [162] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
Troops3 - 3 Rippers (3x11) Claws and Teeth (3x0) - [33] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
Elites1 - 6 Hive Guard (6x18) 6 Shockcannons (6x21) - [234] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
Elites2 - Deathleaper (90) - [90] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
Fast1 - Mucolid Spore (20) - [20] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH) ++WARLORD++
Fast2 - Mucolid Spore (20) - [20] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
Heavy1 - Trygon Prime (128) 3x Massive Scything Talons (60) Bio-electric Pulse with Containment Spines (21) Biostatic Rattle (5) Adrenal Glands (5) - [219] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)
Transport1 - Tyrannocyte (98) 5x Venom Cannons (5x9) - [143] (TYRANIDS, BEHEMOTH)

Secondary Detachment - GENESTEALER CULTS Supreme Command Detachment (+1 Command Point)

HQ3 - Patriarch (150) Monstrous Rending Claws (0) Mass Hypnosis - [150] (TYRANIDS, GENESTEALER CULTS)
HQ4 - Magus (73) Force Stave (0) Autopistol (0) Mind Control - [73] (TYRANIDS, GENESTEALER CULTS)
HQ5 - Magus (73) Force Stave (0) Autopistol (0) Mind Control - [73] (TYRANIDS, GENESTEALER CULTS)
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>>54070462
i just use bigger dice like d12s or d20s

>>54070332
mostly slaanesh daemons here. 1-2-0 so far, got smashed by deathwatch (i need anti tank) then timed out against ultramarines featuring calgar. had the 2nd game gone on idk who would've won. keeper of secrets almost shot to bits but managed to snap a dreadnought in half

so far i've learned that flame weapons are very good (burning chariot has been my MVP each game) while former large blast weapons like the skullcannon and battlecannon aren't worth it. time to ally in some lascannon havocs.
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>Loth in 6th and 7th
>Awesome psyker, one of the most powerful ever. Able to pick and choose from a single discipline. With the right rules he can go around as a melee beat stick by using his pistol to do S7 AP2 attacks instead of using his Force Axe and the debuff
>In 8th....
>He's just a regular Librarian with a Force Axe

Great.
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>>54070497
So, Rust Stalkers? Nothing new, m8.

>>54070517
Banshees were already potentially male. There was no gender lock off. You just had to wear boob plate even if you were a dude.
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>>54070336
I don't see how its different than a chainsword. I would read it as a separate entry for each of the three weapons.
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>>54070549
Not Ruststalkers, you're thinking of Infiltrators.
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Is it better to shove a dakka unit in an open topped battlewagon, like lootas or flash gitz, or putting a case, a rolla, and ramming it into the enemy with a mob of boyz or Nobz?
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>>54070462

>I quit warmahordes to play 40k. What have I become?
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Lion El'Johnson resurrected when?
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>>54070529
>[NAME] in 6th and 7th
>Awesome, one of the most powerful ever.
>In 8th....
>He's just a regular [UNIT]

Welcome to 8th.
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>>54070332
Yep
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>>54070525
Dies horrifically to top tourney lists. You have nothing that can really deal with Stormravens except the Hive Guard who will get focussed down turn 1 and the Magi who can only attempt Mind Control once per turn.
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>>54070549
Man as in human.
And the list grows.
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>>54070561

Dakka option probably has more utility but Stabba option is more fun. There are no bad choices.
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>>54070560
Ah right. My mistake. Cheers lad.
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>>54069791
Here you go famalam

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByORSmF1JmKyWDVpZzJpa0xQdDA

Any ideas where I can get paradox?
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>>54070578
Is Stormraven shitposting the new conscript shitposting?
>>
This is admittedly for a tournament in the UK using Mixed Scoring (ETC System), so it has some advantages against those lists. They'll either have to land to stop reserves getting to the backline, which means they can be charged, or fly around, which means that the backline can be accessed.

I'm not confident against Stormraven lists, but I think it has a chance against them.
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>>54070574
Reeeeeee! Loth was my bae. First Culln gets turned into a Dreadnought Chapter Master, but now Loth is poop?
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>>54070608
There's an audiobook torrent site that I downloaded my copy from, if you search "warhammer pandorax audiobook torrent" you should be able to find it.
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>>54070614
It's not shitposting after it topped two tournaments.

The conscript meme is no joke either, it's just that nobody has the time to assemble and paint 200 fucking conscripts when the indexes just came out a couple weeks ago. The reason Stormraven meta even started was because it was projected to be the counter to conscripts, turns out no one brought conscripts but stormravens are just the counter to fucking everything.
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>>54070596
Shit man, I can shove a unit of gitz, unit of lootas, a big Mek, and deck it out with big shootas and a lobba.

I just feel like having a no penalty dakka wagon would be fun to run on the board.
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>>54070529
>that one psyker character from forgeworld's own favorite chapter
>could pick his own psychic powers from the edition when everyone randomly generated powers
>gets a power to give himself 2++

you must be really disillusioned if you thought he wasn't gonna get nerfed as fuck. how could you not expect this when it happened to everyone in 8th?
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>>54070093
>>54070127
Those are not digits which can twist a haft.
They are Stubbly, Useless Phalanges.
Spin like a fan is correct anon, he'd be whacking Orks with the flat of his frostwolfbladeaxe and generating a gentle breeze at the same time.
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>>54070616
Your best bet is to stick the Hive Guard in the Tcyte and try to alpha one of them down when you drop, bring in the Magi and Patriarch on another one and Mind Control then Smite spam, advance the Broodlord and Swarmlord and Smite spam while screening them with the gaunts, and have the rest of the shit sit on objectives and pray.
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>>54070657
>favourite chapter
I love this meme. Their favourite is Minotaurs.
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Anyone ever run any narrative campaigns? I have with two of my friends in 6th, I think its the best way to play the game.
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>>54070681
Yeah that was more or less the idea. The most I've seen in any list so far (as one of the list checkers) was 4 with Gulliman, and a Dark Eldar list with 3 Razorwings and 2 Voidravens, and one list with 3 Stormtalons, Dreadnoughts and Whirlwinds
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>>54070326
IIRC Cato was barely a footnote in the Dark Imperyam book and instead all of the attention was on Feelicks.

Is Cato and Calgar both inferior to the Primarisy goodness?
Dark Horse chapter master likely?
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Sisters with flamers as a screen for guard gunlines.

Y/N?
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Looking got some feedback and help deciding some of the final choices for my list. So far I'm going to be running:

Asmodai
Deathwing Knights
Deathwing Apothecary
Deathwing Champion
Fire Raptor
Caestus Assault Ram
Land Raider Helios

Now to fill put the remaining points I'm trying to decide between

A: Dark Talon along with a Deathwing Ancient with Lightning Claws

Or

B: Nephilim Jetfighter and a Deathwing Ancient with THSS

Thoughts?
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>>54070614
wait, what have I missed?
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>>54070677
>turn axe 90 degrees
>rapidly spin entire body around while walking forward
ITS IN THE CODEX
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>>54070732

Conscripta are better
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>>54070772
Might as well skip the screen and just make your army a conscript meme then.

I'm thinking survivability, assault skill and overwatch.
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do dark mechanicus and loyalist mechanicus use the same logo? i know nothing about their fluff except they make stuff like titans and robutts
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>>54070770
>spin entire body around
>forward direction rotates
>walking forward
sounds like a good idea
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>>54070691
I like their least favorite chapter the most. Exorcists "pick a vanilla space marine tactics"
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Any opinions on Shadow Spectres in 8th Ed?

I really like the models, but I've never found any army that would work well with these guys.

What do you guys think? In what sort of army would these guys fit in?
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>>54070790

And conscripts are better than sisters in all of these

Full conscripts army is a meme, but 25-35% of a gunline army in conscript + supporting officers is really good.
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>>54069075
Whaddya mean? We're awesome. I had a game and found the miracle combo of sticking a paladin ancient, captain, and apothecary next to a chaplain dread and 5 Paladins.

The Paladins alone spit out 25 3+ To hit (2+ in sarge) rerolling 1s, with a 3+ to wound ANYTHING.with dready and hammerhand (2+ on T4 or less!). Add in AP-2 and D3 damage and the lil niggas wiped a fucking land raider out in one turn.

I'm thinking the best come-all list is something like
>grand master
>ancient
>apothecary (healing all your already tanky dudes is a mountain of keks)
>4 Paladins
>10 termies, combat squadded
>2 6-man interceptor squads
>2 twin-lascannon razorbacks to shuffle them in
>chaplain dread with lascannons
>Dreadknight, though desu I think a dreadnought may be better.

You've only got 9 drops (usually first turn), and if you pull buffbubbles right then you've got a mountain of stupidly Killy attacks, good anti-horde with a fuckton of stormbolter shots, smite for brainbullets, and with all the tellyportin' virtually everything in your army is within 9" of the enemy at the top of turn 1. It's badass
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>>54070809

They are weird, at 2 PL each they are kinda meh, but at 23pt each they are OP

I expect an errata bringing them at 30ish point at least, otherwise they are incredibly good.
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>>54070809
Give them reroll buff like farseer or autach and they gonna generate more shots.
They also got from "no overwatch blast template" to "fucking autohit flamer".
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>>54070657
My friend was all "urgh why is filthy monkey Ahriman as strong as multimillenially talented Eldrad?"
Then I showed him Loth.

Good times
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>>54070808
Pretty sure there were several of those. I don't even remember any Red Hunter special units.

>>54070798
I don't think so. Seeing as Dark Mechanicus is coming to 30k (and was talked about in 40k BRB iirc) we'll see soon enough.
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>>54070770
Please, dear god please, give proofs

Not because I don't believe you, but because it's Fucking Hilarious
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>>54070497
Marines that literally go RREEEEEEEEEE as a weapon. Lol
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>>54070732
2x Immolator 206 points
2x Retributor squads w/heavy Flamers 226 points.

Barbeques about 28 ork boys a turn.

I'd rather have two 2, 9x arco-flagellant squads with priest probably.
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Can someone tell me where the rule is that a tervigon has to pay for newly spawned termagants?
Many thanks
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Should I put my stealth suits on 32's?
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>>54070608
I fuckin love you anon. If other anons advice doesnt get you pandorax ill toss it up on here once im outta the slave pits
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>>54070843
>"urgh why is filthy monkey Ahriman as strong as multimillenially talented Eldrad?"

Top kek, why are Eldar players always just as arrogant as the faggot knife ears army they play
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>>54070838
>>54070836
Should I buy a few squads from Miranda Irene?

Or does Z (or anyone else) have good casts of these guys?
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>>54070879
It's under reinforcement points in the big rule book.
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>>54070927
They play space jews. Of course they're arrogant elitist bastards.
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>>54070843
in defense of eldrad he's helped bring about the dead eldar god which has put tremors in 40k
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Asking in this and /WiP/ thread, any idea how to go about making up some decent looking power klaws?
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>>54070462

Dude

NOD is literally what I want to run

I was thinking RH or CSM with Cultists and IG vehs/walkers. Any pics?
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>>54070951

Thanks, but am I retarded or where does it exactly stand that I have to pay for them?
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>>54071002
Thats reinforcements, not reinforcement points. Try page 214
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>>54071002
Page 214 in matched play.
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>>54070125
And beasts of Nurgle.
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>>54070748
I'm thinking storm shield for mine. You want that ancient to stay alive.
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>>54070592
Change the fire prism guys to warp spiders
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>>54071002
>>54070879
Keep in mind you only have to pay for new units. Returning up to 10 dead termagants armed with fleshborers to an existing unit costs nothing.
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So have they given any indications about Chad-Marine transports?

Since they got all new gear it would make sense for them to get all new transports and no doubt Cawl and Guiliman have access to stupid levels of archeotech.

I honestly wouldn't be shocked if they go with something like a large hover Rhino of some sort especially considering they are already going with a hover Predator of some sort.

Gotta get all the marines to swap over to new vehicles
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I want an army with a cool aesthetic, and something I can have fun converting with. Would an artillery and infantry Blood Pact army be any fun or good?
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>>54070748
>FW shit
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>>54070336
BOLS may suck but it's a legitimate question. I suspect the intent was just +1 attack but RAW I could see the argument for the +3.
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>>54071060
So Magnus killing a character means you have to pay for the Chaos Spawn that arrives? Surely it's already counted and isn't 'summoned'?
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So what is the point in primaris tacs?
I get the guys with plasma, they're the fuck that thing squad and I understand the point of the assault guys as being a harassment unit/counter heavy weapons squad. I get the captin and looking at it the other hq, I even understand the new skull guys after reading the books about them being like scouts+1 but given this is mostly how the legions functioned in 30k what is the point of primaris tacs? Even tacs in 30k had fury of the legion.
Anyone shed some light?
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>>54070798
They put a Chaos Star around it, but otherwise same symbol.
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>>54070748
Storm shield but in general Ancients are mediocre. I wouldn't take them unless they become better in full codex release.
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>>54071060


Yes, I know that, but I can't find the psssage where it exactly tells you having to pay for new units..
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>>54070753
Some early 8th tournament was won by a guy that ran 4 Stormravens, 2 Stormhawk Interceptors and a single Captain and one 6-man Tactical Squad. The list had as many aircraft as it did Tactical Marines.
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>>54070843
To be fair, why wouldn't your friend expect Eldrad to be better?

Eldar are the psyker faction. Their primary trait in fluff and in game is that they have the best psykers. Almost every Eldar codex and 40K rulebook in its description of the faction calls its psykers the best.

Did we all forgot this because in 7th they were so OP they literally never needed to use psyker powers to win?
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>>54071091
Yes. Anytime you could end up with a unit on the battlefield that you didn't pay for when writing your army list, it has to come out of your reinforcement points. If you didn't set any reinforcement points aside you don't get spawn.

The only exception to this rule that I know of is Tyranid Spore Mines and Mucolids because they have a special rule that explicitly gives them permission to ignore this.
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>>54071030
>>54071027

Oh yes, that's it. Many thanks!
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>>54071092
Cheaper than Hellblasters (god that name is dumb) standard infantry unit for players that want to run all-Primaris armies.

I feel this should be obvious.
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>>54071132
Kinda poops in Magnus's cornflakes. He's pretty crap now. Beatstick bonus is RUINED.
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>>54070819
Draigo looks really really good, he can pretty much cleave through a tank by himself. Hammerhand against t7 and hes got a good chance to put out 15 damage.

From what I understand a Librarian still has the Librarius discipline so you can get your daemonhammer paladins up to s10 5 attacks t5 rerolling charges.

Spamming strike squads seems really good if you can get them all with double falchions.

I don't think a chaplain dred can be <grey knights>
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>>54070332
>>54070402
Worse than namefags. Please leave
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>>54071145
You're fucking retarded if you think the loss of free spawn comes anywhere near making him crap.
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>>54071113

Make Psykers to strong and you risk turning it into herohammer.

Make psykers to weak and they become largely pointless.

Seems like 8th is designed to make stuff a little easier on the factions without psyker support (Shit like Zoanthropes don't count).
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>>54071096
The Deathwing Ancient gives +1 attack to Deathwing units, which should stack with the +1 attack and rerolls in combat from Asmodai.
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Would you guys ever use the Prism Blaster or Haywire launcher upgrade for Shadow Spectres Exarch? Or not?
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>>54071137
Yes but what do they achieve on the tabletop? Given the new "cads" why run them when I can run everything else and still be ok? Are they a tax for extra command points?
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>>54071162
R U I N E D !
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>>54071161
Fuck off faggot

The people who shitpost when someone is actually contributing are the lowest of the low. Worse than every other kind of shitposter.
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>>54071111
Outside of running Imperial Knights I honestly have no idea how you counter this.
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>>54071178

Relatively cheap but durable way to contest and hold objectives while your more expensive units engage the enemy.
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>>54071214
Bring your own planes!
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>>54071214
Can I ask why that's so scary? You can actually hit flyers now, surely you could just take a couple Neutron Lasers to their 3+ No Invuln asses and blast off a few wounds?
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>>54070993

Sure. I tried to keep the original models as much intact as humanly possible while keeping the same color profile and style of Tiberian Dawn NOD. Imperial Guard would make fine NOD with some head swaps from Pig Iron or Kromlech's Regiments series.

These photos are a little dated, I removed the unit numbering from the Tauroxes, added NOD transfers on them, and I've added Tiberium Crystals to all bases. I need to take new photos.
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>>54071145
>Magnus can rape a Imperial Knight in a single turn
>Costs less points
>Can do 2D6 mortal wounds if you roll a 8
>All for less points than a Imperial Knight (415)
>"He's pretty crap now."

Some people ... Let me guess, you also thought that your Wraithknights were not point efficient enough in 7th ?
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>>54071214

Take several hydra platforms
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>>54071166
The larger issue with psychic powers is they're unreliable and "all or nothing" effects. With something like a pair of hurricane, you can math out "24 Bolter Shots averages 4 dead Scouts" or so mathematically. There are far more "pass/fail" checks with powers, regardless of whether the system was the 7e Warp Charge System, or the 8e "copied from AOS" system.

Personally, I would have rather they cleaned up 7e Psykers, so Psykers got 1+ML or 2 x ML or so Warp Charge in exchange for getting rid of sharing Warp Charge. Make powers extremely weak, but extra successes strengthen the power, and deny the witch subtracts successes. This way it isn't "you need at least 3 successful WC to cast overpower", or "you need at least 5 6s to deny Invisibility" or so.
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So wait can vehicles advance and then smoke?
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>>54071085
What makes your toys better than my toys?
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>>54071113
>Eldar are the psyker faction.

Lol. No. They are a "psyker race", but are not the Psyker faction.

Honestly. I'd say Tzeentch, Thousand Sons and Grey Knights are tied for top with Eldar below them.

Why Eldar are on the 3rd tier. That's not their defining feature (only what 3 unit types in Eldar's army are Psykers, Warlocks, Farseers, and Spiritseers) while the rest that's their entire shtick.

You can make a Psykerless Eldar army. It's impossible to do so with the three I listed

>Tzeentch can via Blue Scribes who are not a Psyker themselves, but follow the rules as one.
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>>54071178
They don't achieve anything really. Boltguns on a primaris is likely one of the weakest damage/point ratios in the game against all targets. They should have given them upgraded Stormbolters.
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>>54071244
The Stormraven player has fewer units than many so gets a bonus to going first (so can alphastrike AA threats). If not going first, the player can hang back and avoid most alphastrikes. 8e Deepstrike makes it difficult to actually get near more than one Stormraven at a time, and the opponent cannot put units in reserves that do not explicitly have that option.

Imagine facing Leafblower in 5e but not being allowed to put your own tanks in Reserve. Or any other "alphastrike" where the normal counters were removed.
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>>54071244
Theres plenty of efficient vehicles with bs2 and invuln saves and anti-vehicle weaponry that will win trades with them.
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>>54071285
Doesn't say you can't, can still use assault weapons but just those. So you can still pop smoke because it's an ability and not a weapon.
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>>54071314
I would even go so far to say that Tyranids are more focused on Psykers than Eldar.

Hive tyrants are in basically every list and they're psykers.
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>>54071244
They only have 6 drops so they go first almost every game, they have the mobility to get within melta range of whatever they want to delete, and then they drop 8 multimelta shots, 8 S8 AP-3 damage 3 missiles, and 2 lascannons on your neutron onagers, then have 36 assault cannon shots and 96 bolter shots to shit on hordes or medium infantry, and they've still got two Interceptors to shoot down other flyers or finish off weakened units.

You try your best next turn to kill one with whatever firepower you've got left that isn't already smoking ash, keeping in mind you have a penalty to hit, cannot charge them, and they're Toughness 7 with 14 Wounds and a 3+ armour save, and then next turn they go into hover mode, back up onto objectives, and unleash hell again.'

So maybe turn 2 you've got a 3rd of your army left, if you're lucky. Maybe you've managed to kill one after your second shooting phase because you don't have the hit penalty now, and now you move up and charge because hover mode lets you do that, you weather the 40 shots of Overwatch they make apiece and lose some more dudes, you ding a few more Wounds off them. You still can't even quite reach the objectives because their bases are fucking huge and you can't move through them and they positioned themselves against terrain in a wall to block you from getting past because facings and weapon arcs don't matter anymore.

Start of turn 3 they back up a couple inches out of combat, still blocking you from objectives, and then still fire because Fly. If you're playing Necrons maybe you aren't tabled yet, but you have no chance of winning from this point.
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>>54068973
>tfw only had 97 infantrymen
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how do Soulburner pistols, Voidcutters and infernal axes look like? just plasma but red? no clue about void cutters. forgeworld shit btw that doesnt have models.

any help?
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>>54071132
Jesus Christ I hope they faq this to spell it out to the people who can't understand it. I have a daemons player who insists he doesn't pay for brimstone and blue horrors unless he initially puts them in his squad.
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>>54071188
Contributing vomit maybe. Both their bases and schemes are garish as fuck imo
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>>54071441
Have you shown this retard the part in the Horror rules where it specifically says he has to pay points?
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>>54071441
It is kinda depressing how most of the FAQ has to be spelling rules out for people who can't read.
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>>54071420
Twin Assault Cannons are now Heavy 12, not Heavy 8. So it's actually 72 Assault Cannon shots now. BRRRRRRT!

Play Ride of the Valkyries as you mow down Eldar, AdMech, Bobby G, Tyranids (funny thing, you can Fly and be airborne, yet still moveblock infantry from moving underneath you).
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>>54071478
>dull grey and rust red are garish colours
What the fuck are you even saying, are you tripping on acid while browsing the thread?

Also GGA's bases have been fine ever since he rimmed them in black and hit them with washes like he was advised.
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>>54071420
You really want to b8 someone into a theoryhammer argument about this dumb shit dont you. Its an obviously undercosted move 45" flying land raider with too many weapon slots for 70 less points. That won't survive the first update. There I saved you a wall of text.
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>>54071492
You screwed that math up pretty hard, I know how many shots they get but the list only had three twin assault cannons, that's 12 x 3 = 36 shots.

I was only counting the Stormravens though, I didn't add the firepower from the Interceptors.
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>>54071441
>Matched Play: in matched play you must pay reinforcement points for each and every Blue and Brimstone Horror model that you add to a unit of Horrors.
>Horror Dataslate

Your friend is retarded.
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>>54071520
Ah, missed the fact he didn't give an Assault Cannon to the last one. So it's 36 + 24 = 60 then, ah well. Either way, still quite amusing.
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So I bought the Dark Imperium set like good got I am. This is my first set of miniatures ever, so wish me luck lads.
Going to start painting the Primaris first.
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>>54071551
Make sure you kill those mold lines. Biggest rookie mistake I see from people with their first model set is they don't do enough work removing the mold lines.
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>>54071420
Yeey, yet more bullshit spam lists. Was this 1850? Because the only technique I could realistically fight that with would be taking the HS detachment, Cawl and then as many Neutronagers as fit in the list, which is probably a lot.
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>>54071551
Yes yes gud goy. Buy next two starter sets as well, such gud deal, yes goy...
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>>54071420

It's an early power combo list using models in numbers that you are unlikely to see outside of tourney play. Think back to when Nob Bikers were the hotshit meta.

Either it gets rules/costs modified or we'll see a return to old school Mechdar where everyone just goes with minimal unit lists in order to get the alphastrike advantage on each other.
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>>54071551
Thin your paints with water before painting.
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>>54071214
>Outside of running Imperial Knights I honestly have no idea how you counter this.
Tau Commanders
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>>54069852
MERRY XCRONMAS! IF YOU'RE ON THE NICE LIST, YOU GET ARMOR-STRIPPING GAUSS GUNS BACK! IF YOU'RE NAUGHTY, WELL, LOOK AT INDEX XENOS!
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>>54071565
I'm gonna trade me primaris with the store manager for his death guard.

As if I bought two sets!

Score!
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>>54070462
Kane lives!
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>>54071595
With twin fushion blasters
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>>54071314
Consider, for the majority of the game's existence, two of those 'top psyker' armies did not even exist as distinct factions.
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>>54071420

>necron armylist

>1850 points

>superheavy detachment

>necron obelisk with 4 tesla spheres (426)

>necron obelisk with 4 tesla spheres (426)

>necron obelisk with 4 tesla spheres (426)

>necron obelisk with 4 tesla spheres (426)

fuck flyers
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>>54071582
Yeah I got a palette for my paints because they all seemed thick as fuck.
I can see how one could clot out detail.
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Any good recommendations for starting a tyranid army the starter set looks kinda shit, but I could be wrong I'm going over the rules now
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>>54071605

Arguably the death guard player probably comes out ahead in trades. 20 Intercessors are going to be minimally useful in most lists. Useful for casual/fluff armies but people hate the intercessor based upon it's being given pretty weak primary weapons.
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>>54071645
Buy the Tyranid Swarm box as well as the starter.
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>>54071420
Is there a way to beat this list? I'm honestly more scared of the Stormhawks than the Stormravens as a T'au battlesuit player. Drones aren't any protection when they can resolve the anti-infantry shots before the heavier stuff, even on the same firing model.
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>>54071236

This poses a very important question
Which faction has the best fliers? You may include FW in your consideration.

FW Tigersharks will never not look nice
But who would win in a flier battle
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>>54071645
Warriors + Tyrant are a good start, the gargoyles are a bonus

If you want a shitload of infantry you can get the Tyranid Swarm box
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>>54071595
The Stormhawks kill everything that flies.
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>>54071666
A commander with 4 fusion blasters reliably kills 1 plane per turn
At 160 points it is very easy to bring 2 or 3 of these kinds of commanders to any list
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>>54071666
Can't you pay for hitting flyers?
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>>54071634
>>54071595
List-tailoring and rock-paper-scissors. Once again, it looks like spam/skew looks to be the norm instead of mixed/combined arms forces.

Apparently Reece and Frankie are trying to justify this by going "uhh, the meta will move away from rock paper scissors to minimize bad matchups", disregarding the fact this still allows blatant janking/spoiler lists. Some gits also think sideboards will fix this, instead of making players want to bring two skew lists and attempt to out-bluff each other.

Also, the runner-up (the Harlequin player) had game scores 19-19-19-19-19-1, being tabled in the last game.
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Why are you guys falling for the shitsters of basshole guy's latest attempt at antisisters shitposting?
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>>54071683
They need to survive the tau commander deep strike to fire back... which they won't

Also can't shoot a commander unless its the closest model. Easy to screen them with just about anything.
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>>54071314
Vanguard
>Techmarine
>3*servators
Flier
>3*storm ravens
Is a valid Grey Knights army.
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>>54071669

Do superheavies count? Hard not to look at something like the Tau in those cases when they can bring a Manta to the party.

In general I'd say Craftworld given the sheer number of choices.
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>>54071661
>>54071673
Got thanks for the advice.

Any good tactics you guys can give me?
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>>54071704
... uhm, are we ?
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>>54070957
I thought it was revealed that Marines are the Jews because Jesus.
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>>54071252

Thanks, I saw those helmets on an image search they look perfect.
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>>54069109
I play both
RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>54070971
In defense of Ahriman pre-rewrite he was one black library away from finishing his spell to Become a god.
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>>54071669
Do Tigersharks get to fire their macro weapon?
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>>54071719

Sure, but it isn't fair to compare a Manta to a Remora in a head-to-head so keep in mind value for cost
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>>54071703
>List-tailoring and rock-paper-scissors.
FB Commanders fit in every Tau list. Only 160 points to delete one tank/plane per turn and they have the added utility of declaring Kauyon/Montka.

There's no reason to NOT take 2 of them in every list, they're so good at what they do, and nearly everyone is using some kind of vehicle or monster.
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>>54071729
You were. Sorry, my tab hadn't properly updated until after the post. I was stuck in "hours ago".
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>>54071773
>>54071773
>>54071773
new
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>>54071132
Even poxwalkers?
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>>54071767

yes
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>>54070922
Thanks. Got work at 4:30 today. 40k makes loading boxes go by a little quicker.
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>>54071159
Draigo's a badass, I just like bringing /mydudes/. Sadly all GK are on sanctic, so no might of heroes badassery.

The chaplain naught actually says 'all models with the <chapter> keyword', so it's really all SM that buff, and my opponents are cool with me taking it as a GK. If not that's fine, though no tellyportin upfield is sad.
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>>54071825
Think poxwalkers can only reinforce to their bought size, so twenty remain at twenty.

Unless the rules state they don't stay capped then you can keep growing .
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>>54071711
Storm Raven no longer has a psychic pilot?
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>>54071919
The rules indeed state they don't cap.
However, do they cost reinforcement points?
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>>54071689
>>54071694
Destroying them isn't an issue if I can get in range but surviving to shoot them is the problem. Unless I seize they'll kill my commanders flying up to them or table me if I hold them in reserve. Drones will absolutely evaporate to the Stormhawks.

>>54071703
The problem with this flyer list is that it doesn't have counters. The flyers' movement allows them to get the drop on any AA units and even if the "counter" list is entirely AA they flyers will still have the advantage as they are able to concentrate fire. Even the AA targeting stuff just brings them back to parity due to the hard to hit. These SM flyers don't pay any tax for being hard to hit, they output as much firepower as ground-based units. Compare the Stormhawk to a dread and you'll see what I mean.
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>>54071666

already got a counter, and now that I think of it the chemo is far worse than the real thing

>>54071634

Each tesla sphere fires 5 S7 AP- shots with the tesla special rule at BS 3+, because facings no longer exist each sphere can focus fire a single target.

this results in a grand total of 80 Strength 7 AP- shots being projected at 24 inches on T8 W24 models with the living metal special rule and a 8" move, however this being an obelisk you can set half of them up in orbit and deepstrike two of them turn one directly in the middle of the flyer wing, and since you set up so few you're almost guarenteed to get first turn.

assuming the enemy is not a retard and he set up his flyers spaced out so they couldn't be focused, you deploy the 2 obelisks in high orbit and deepstrike them on top off the nearest stormtalon turn one, meaning 40 S7 shots hitting the stormtalon turn one hitting on three's.

40 shots equals about 27 hits, 4 of those will be sixes meaning an additional 8 hits resulting in 35 hits.

wounding on 3's means 24 wounds means 8 unsaved wounds means a crippled stormtalon

the other two obelisks shoot their salvo of munitions at the other stormtalon to a similar result

then the obelisks gravity bow wave special rule kicks in and every model in an 18 Inch bubble of the obelisks rolls a D6, on a 6 it causes d3 mortal wounds.

18 inch radius bubble will cover half of the board assuming 6 by 4 and long table edge, and I'm going to assume that the perfect scenario comes up and all are within range of at least one machine.

turn one, each flyer has a 1/3 chance of failing its save because two per flyer, in which case 2 flyers eat an additional 2 unsavable wounds per turn.

every turn an obelisk is on the field it regens D3 wounds, and as a necron vehicle it is beefy as shit with 24 wounds and a 3+ save means it can face tank the melta guns and eats hurricanes and assault cannons for breakfast
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>>54071710
What can you screen with that won't evaporate to the autocannons/hurricane bolters? And they can choose to resolve the shots for each gun type separately due to the shooting rules.
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>>54071958
6's don't triple against flyers unless you have a way to give them +1 to hit.
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>>54071936
>Destroying them isn't an issue if I can get in range but surviving to shoot them is the problem. Unless I seize they'll kill my commanders flying up
Why aren't you using Manta Strike to just drop anywhere you want on the map?
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>>54071669

I'd say DE

All weapons are assault, so 3+ to hit

5+ invuln, and a really good weapon loadout.
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>>54071988

thats a good point, no idea why they don't have anti air build into them desu
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>>54072018
I do but then I get tabled turn 1 with the units I have on the board. I'm using a commander + drone spam list.
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>>54071966
>And they can choose to resolve the shots for each gun type separately due to the shooting rules.
Have to declare all shots first before rolling any dice

If there is just ONE model closer than the commander then youre not able to shoot him with any guns with that model that turn.

>>54072108
How are you getting tabled if your commanders deploy off the table, drop in wherever you want, and you can kill 2-3 planes per turn.

You must be shit awful at this game
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>>54071711
>Techmarine
Check under Grey Knight chapter. Techmarines gain the PSYKER keyword.

>Stormraven
You are technically correct. If you did a Grey Knight army consisting of nothing but Stormravens you can make a Psykerless Grey Knight army.
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>>54071433
I'm just using a mechanicus magos model.
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>>54070636
>The reason Stormraven meta even started was because it was projected to be the counter to conscripts,

Jokes on them when they can't move their minimum due to too many models on the field.

But seriously, how are flyers going to deal with reliving 30 models off of objectives
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>>54072175
I have to have something still on the table before my commanders can deep strike on my first turn. The drones I have can't survive the alpha strike. Maybe I should change up my shield/gun drone ratio.
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>>54069819
Non mass-warp spider aspect warriors. Wraithlords and Phoenix Lords.

There is a person at my LGS that plays groups of DA, HB, and SS with a few FD if needed, its really fun to play against.
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>>54071958
This is why I love my Obelisk
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