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Pathfinder General (Paizo Games General if the Starfinder General doesn't make a new thread soon) /pfg/ / /pgg/

Brawler edition:

How does your character feel about fights with no armor, weapons, or magic to aid them?

/pgg/ link repository: https://pastebin.com/JLu5xXML
current playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Current /sfg/ thread: >>53982544
Old Thread: >>54008624
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Greentext your current party makeup, /pfg/
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>me, evil necromancer wizard with an owl familiar, secretly serving a powerful vampire unbeknownst the the rest of the party
>Cleric of the river who loves his home city and his old friend Gabriart, who has risen to the rank of a powerful statesman while he completed his cleric training
>A savage barbarian from the Frozen North trying to band his scattered tribe together and serve their pagan deity. Hotheaded and brash.
>A ranger who was raised in the wild by a group of magical rhino's, doesn't understand civilization and is generally soft spoken and timid unless it concerns members of his "family" who he is devoted to finding and helping.
>An adolescent druid who is trying to bring peace between humanity and a species of animal that sees man as their natural enemy. Comes from a swampy, watery land and has a walrus animal companion.
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>When you realize your backstory amounts to the standard Dead Village trope

JUST
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>>54022663
>Emotionally unstable, possessed, fanatically religious, identity crisis suffering skald (my character)
>Loony scholar with a family that has at least one member of every race and a bunch of outsiders in the family tree
>Conan the techno barbarian
>Atrophied, lame and death prone nerd wizard
>Serious business garundi warpriest who uses a chainsaw that was used by a barbarian who used the said chainsaw to murder the aforementioned skald

We are one of a kind
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>>54022586
Using spheres of might and savage barbarian, you could get pretty high AC while being a naked fuck. Haven't gotten the chance to play it though.

Aside from gimmicks like that, I've tried the brawler/monk sorts and while it is cool to be as good punching stuff as a normie as the other guy is with a sword it is usually better to just armor up.
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>>54022810
>when you realize your role in the group is of comic relief
Why did I go brawler? I bet there're archetypes for magus or someshit that would make better unarmed combatants
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Dear /pfg/ or whatever you're calling yourselves now,

Do you ever get the impression that your GM is deliberately fucking with you, either in terms of your party in general or your character specifically?
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>>54022586
He cherishes the idea since he is as strong as a fire giant naturally
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>>54022663
>level 6 human summoner who I mistakenly allowed to take some 3rd party archetype (paracosmist i think?) currently has a large-sized eidolon with wings and swallow whole. At level 6.
>dwarf cavalier/occulist of some kind, has some spells and some insanely high aid another bonuses, gives +6 with his aid another somehow and does this every turn to give the party insane stats. pretty sure he's breaking the rules but I'm too goddamn lazy to even look anymore
>half-elf aether kineticist who deals most of the party's damage
>dhampir witch played by friend's gf, decent character actually
>homebrew fey race sorcerer who just wants more money for his tavern, the characters have done loads of bullshit shenanigans that fucked up his business, such as stabbing patrons with daggers while hiding in the rafters so the witch could heal them and get closer to the achievement feat she wanted (1000 points of healed damage).
>elf ranger with pet badger named after his dead sister
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>>54022663
>crushing despair and loneliness that is slowly turning to empty hollowness and will gradually be replaced by apathy followed by ennui
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>>54022663
>A cleric who worships a god of pottery and dons a clay mask in battle
>A gunslinger that ignores mooks in combat on the grounds that many of them are poor innocent peasants being forced to fight
>A socially awkward soulknife that has somehow ended up being the party face and rules a minor duchy
>A "lawful neutral" magus that is scheming to take over said duchy

I am the GM. I am not very smart.
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>>54022987
>>54022987
Ah so you're playing a bard?
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>>54023021

By myself
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>>54022922
Should have gone Warpriest and used unarmed attack for sacred weapon.
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>>54022663

>Drunken hypersexual elf sorcerer who has some terrible daddy issues and pretty good dick jokes (me)
>Proud catfolk paladin servant of iomedae who rides a lion, and is desperately trying to be He-Man.
>Silent human monk who is pretty fucking fed up with the drunk elf's dick jokes.
>Overly flirtatious Tengu alchemist/rogue. Has a big heart, but also has a habit of nibbling on any and all dead things. Completely disgusting and looking for love.
>Tiefling witch with a chicken familiar who is completely lacking in social cues. Enjoys talking to the dead more than the living
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>>54023183
>Drunken hypersexual elf sorcerer who has some terrible daddy issues and pretty good dick jokes (me)
>(me)

What a surprise.
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>>54023228
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>>54022663
I hardly even know what classes the other guys are playing.

>Healbot
>archerbot
>big guy with shield
>little guy with shield
>idort paladin
>magus
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I feel like I enjoy doing wizard things more than adventuring. Last session I spent an entire day writing in my spellbook and scribing scrolls and then got to go see my evil vampire master and got a bitchin rod for my faithful service
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What's your favorite part of Tian Xia?
Kaoling is pretty cool.
>Actual organized hobgoblin country
>Export arms/etc to their comrades in other countries
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>>54022663
>Squole Aberrant Aegis who is poorly trying to convince people she's actually a human (me)
>Timid Ethermacer who wants to live a normal life but keeps getting fucked over by his evil twin
>Elf Chirugeon who is basically our shitty drunken dad, makes bad jokes
>"Gnome" who is actually a shapeshifting abomination that constantly hungers for salt and bones
>Old One Avowed who thinks the "gnome" is an aspect of his benefactor and tries to schmooze up to her

I didn't realize how weird we were until I typed it out.
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>>54023363
I want Hongal to be cool, but the problem is that it's one of the worst examples of Paizo writing being terrible for geography.

They're nomadic but somehow still have at least a couple large cities. They're mongol raiders, but have almost nobody to raid because Minkai is protected by a big-ass forest, there's nothing but desert to the west, and Chu Ye should, by all rights, be too strong to attack.

They make no sense where they are, and probably should be moved to the south end of Shaguang.
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I know im probably committing some kind of taboo im unaware of but im a newfag and need an answer. How exactly does one end up playing a pf/dnd campaign?

My friend has been going on about starting one for ages but it's not coming together, and the only times I've played either it was because I was DMing which I sucked at and hated. All I want to do is show her a good time and maybe see how much I can fuck around with prestidigitation before the DM puts their foot down
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>>54023471
Whoever said they're raiders? They're trade sluts who suckle up whatever treats the Ulfen get them from the Path of Aganhei.
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>>54023563

Get some of the short module games and try running one. Since they're short, you guys can all go back and forth as GMs. After enough of that, one of your pals might take a serious effort towards running an adventure path. That's how it worked out for me anyway.
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>>54023597
That's what you'd expect, but they still have a horse archer/raider culture and act exactly like mongols under the khans.
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>>54023624
Is this emphasized in the Gazeteer? Back when I played Jade Regent they seemed like your standard decadent haughty assholes.
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>>54023678
That's Ordu-Aganhei. When you go there, you meet with the Prince, who is specifically NOT the Khan. The Khan's his more competent brother, and the city is pretty much the largest (and only) actual city of note in Hongal.

Everywhere else, as far as all the fluff text shows, is just open steppe with wandering clans.
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>>54022663

>Local dog engages in bodybuilding competition
>Cute princess who just wants to be friends!
>Small trap boy who wants to be ferocious
>Small punchgirl who wants to become huge
>Frank Sinatra but with tits
>A rat
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>>54023758
Remove rat
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>>54022586
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court (Closing in 4 Days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia (Closing in 5 Days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80257/wrath-of-the-righteous (Closing in 2 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80328/volo-fluffy-tails-9 (Closing in 2 Weeks)
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Ever give yourself a mechanical drawback for fun?

I'm playing a NG cleric of sarenrae, who got branded by a demon as part of her backstory as punishment for standing up for some villagers he was harassing, and now she has this curse. Whenever she casts a positive-energy spell, her asmodeus brand on her throat or chest or something burns.

What are some other ideas for character creation drawbacks other than the usual traits/drawbacks system? I played an alcoholic one time and we made up homebrew rules for withdrawals and varying levels of drunkeness, which was pretty fun.
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>>54023823
>demon
>Asmodeus
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>>54023786
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court (Closing in 4 Days)
>50 apps
How long do you think Protag is going to need to organize his picks?
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What are some unorthodox things or options available that an archery specialist rogue can take advantage of in game? Non combat suggestions highly welcome.
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>>54023786
It's almost over. Thank god.
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>>54022663

They are prebuild. The DM have done a Baldur's Gate thing for our actual characters. So far we have played:

>Dwarf Paladin from the starter doomed hometown. He used to live in the bad part of the town constantly saving his brother' ass. Got cursed with a diseas that will turn him into a monster. The player has a very lose cop-like interpretation of how to play him. Constantly at the end of evrey tragedy and bad luck.
>His brother, a rogue, jolly charlattan, liar, thief, pervert, glutton, beardless. Player is a scary master schemer and used to joke about torture and evil. He played him like a surprisingly good manipulative agent of chaos to the point that he was the master of the group. He died in one of his most outrageous schemes that sabotaged the villain's plans without a fight and assured that the party would earn the favor of the nobility.
>One-eye drunk barbarian close friend of the rogue, partners in crime. Usually, he's controlled by the Paladin player. Half the time we forget he exist outside of combat.
>NotRussian female fighter, former mercenary. Was educated as a boy by a proud father, fighter too. His town got razed, parents killed. She joined a group of mercenaries that got killed in a suicide mission. She joined the guard of the doomed starter hometown just a week beforehand. Also got cursed like the Paladin. Happy face face but serious type. Player is an unorthodox tactitian.
>An underaged halfling wizard, child prodigy in magic. He got ito the hole mess during a school visit to the doomed hometown. Player knows how to play him as a trickster. He also insisted into give him a lvl in druid to get a wolf.
>Turquish female cleric with a scimitar, former healer of a group of refugees. The group hates her for forgetting to mention a nasty trap that nearly killed the Paladin. Not much backstory but she has fallen into the hands of the schemer.
>A Nagi fighter, former adventurer miner. So far, he's been controlled by the DM.
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>>54023853
It's never over.
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>>54023844
or rovagug, whichever works. I'm still kinda going through creation and was thinking of people who would harass villagers. maybe asmodeus wanted to enslave them.
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>>54023848
The picks have already been made. Real question is how many of those NPC'd characters get killed off by intrigue or other factors
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>>54023873
>demon
>Rovagug
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How was your weekend, /pfg/? Do anything fun or exciting, game-related or otherwise?
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>>54023848

At a wild guess? Couple days if he wants to give them all a fair shake at their final versions. People have been revising. It'll take a proper evening to digest them all.
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>>54023823
A character of mine that I've been planning to play forever but haven't had a good game for is a wizard that got customized by her wizard parents in the womb to be the perfect daught - absolutely berautiful, full figure, melodious voice, and an instinctive, intuitive grasp of spellcraft.

The trick with her, however, is that the process also left her riddled with physical and mental health problems. she can't bend her right leg, has asthma, albinism, autism, and her curves are a strain on her body. I'd represent this with abysmal strength, constitution, and charisma scores.
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>>54023882
Who are the picks, anon?
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>>54023903
How wild are these curves, anon?
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>>54023903
>All those typos
fuck, I really need to go to bed.
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>>54023823

I'm considering the no shadow trait for my Tiefling.
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>>54023882
>Implying that Protag is as big of a piece of shit as Argentum
Anon, you've got your head screwed on all wrong
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>>54023869
Of course it is, nothing is coming after WotR.
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>>54023917
I was thinking of using this as the character image for her.
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>>54023893
It was almost disappointingly chill.
The big climactic fight of our current arc pretty much with a whimper, and the GM had to go to bed immediately after.
Then another game involved someone deciding to retire their character, and by the time I'd started that game I'd basically started phoning it in.
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>>54022663
>lovable yet oblivious straight girl
Male dhampir Bard who will seduce everything
>edgy high-maintenance lesbian
Female drow Witch who wants to kill/torture everything
>no-effort, why-don't-girls-love-me lesbian
Male dhampir Slayer of no real description
>very pretty gay boy who hates being mistaken for woman
Male elven Sorcerer who wants to be in the center of every plot
>easygoing "bi" girl who only likes girls plus one specific boy
Male tiefling Magus edgelord parody, notably played in a game with at least one person it's a parody of
>depressed person whose only living purpose is to tell jokes in monotone
The GM
>endless ocean of fights, watching cringy unrequited crushes attempting maneuvers through RP, people becoming angry that other people are crushing on the wrong people, people NOT talking to specific others at the table, and a healthy dose of romantic entitlement complexes
A trainwreck one can't stop coming back to
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>>54023892
you're missing the point. it could have just been a regular cultist with a magical brand or something. the details are beside the point
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>>54023945
I want to protect her smile
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>>54022926
Depends on what you mean by "fucking with you". I gave the party's fighter a suit of magical full plate that had a glamer which made it look like it was made of a ruby plates with gold trim. Later I gave him a special wand that had 10 charges/day of Magic Missile at 9th CL (plus three other random 1st or 2nd-level Wiz/Sorc spells that changed daily, but that's not important here). Then I gave him magic boots of at-will Fly.

It was after he got the armor and I had planned the wand but before he got the wand that I realized I was slowly turning him into Iron Man, at which point I decided to roll with it and see if anybody ever calls me on it.
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>>54023945
Okay, I can see how those proportions would be hell on a girl with shit for strength. I'm curious though, we know what her parents made her, but how did she make herself? As in, what's the impetus to adventure, and please don't tell me it's a pursuit of knowledge.
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What could drive a student of philosophy into becoming a court assassin?
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>>54024021
Nihilism
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>>54023964
>All those gays and lesbians

You have to go back.
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>>54022926

I dont think he's doing it on purpose. He's too much of a good guy.
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>>54024021
A weary or curious lifelong assassin becoming a student of philosophy after a special encounter of some kind
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>>54023995
Are you saying that because you want to bone her, or because you're interested in what potential personality will have developed out of her mess of issues and amoral wizard parents?

>>54024011
Actually, the reason is quite simply disgust with her parents. I'm planning on taking the Twisted Love feat to explain a fairy godmother (unseelie court, of course) that told her all about the sordid details of her parents fucking with her in the womb in the way to get the most impact out of it. so, she moves out into the world; casters are always valuable in mercenary and adventuring companies, and she was literally customized to be an incredible wizard.
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>>54023823
Currently playing a dwarf Ranger who is, excuse the memetics, triggered hard by anybody who claims audience or visions from a god since his own life was ruined when his parents gave everything they had to somebody who is the golarion equivalent of a televangelist. He goes ape shit and starts a verbal rampage or drops any pretense of strategy and focuses one guy during combat, without positioning himself any better despite such chances presenting themselves.
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Can swarms share a space with each other? I assume not since swarms are packed as densely as the creatures making them up can go. But if they can overlap, would a creature standing in multiple swarms have to make multiple checks/take damage multiple times?
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Wait traits would make sense for a Cossack?
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>>54024032
>getting anything but that group when you look for games at theater arts school
Let me know how you do anon
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>>54024045

No, I really want to protect her. And make sure she's safe and protected. Romance and sex is just a bonus
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>>54023961

How did the fight go down?
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>>54022663
>elder vampire and former empress of mostly-undead world which she left after staging a "revolution" led by heroes she herself picked and guided from the shadows
>living constellation from Mount Celestia's sky, all squished into shy and reclusive catgirl with black hole-propelling starbow
>positive energy/fire elemental themed around manipulating primal elements, boundless creativity and being unexperienced child with much to learn
>arcanoloth "princess", spoiled hyperactive brat hungry for new sensations and easily overwhelmed by it since she comes from a plane of muted colors and emotions

No, it's not actually Pathfinder though most of the group gathered while playing it.
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>>54024045
There's got to be another reason for her fairy godmother to have done that, because while I love the idea it feels like you're missing out on some nice hooks. I guess this is where you need to find a campaign?

Why not Wrath of the Righteous? It's in desperate need of casters, and that campaign has a trait which basically amounts to having a fairy godmother!
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>>54023823
I still want to play a one-armed swordsman sometime. A shame that Einhanding in 1pp is a joke, and in PoW it's likely to get phased out in favor of even more 2hander memes.
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>>54024067
I'd let swarms pass through each other but become less effective because of the crampedness. Too bad it doesn't use attack rolls because then vanilla creature rules already cover the situation.
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>The player keeps joking about torturing people and evil plans while playing a good character.
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>>54024131
Einhanding is better than 2-handing in Path of War with the right investment.
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>>54024128
I'm still working out the details for the character right now; if you have ideas, feel free to toss them at me; anything to fill in the blanks would be a helpful bonus.

As for why not wotR, it's because I already have a character there. One whom I've also been meaning to play for a good long while.
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Should longsword be played with two-hands?
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>>54024160
Which one? Is it Cyrille?
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>>54024185
It's Morena of Senara
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>>54023848
Protag here.

I'm going to have to give all the apps another read and compile all their final availabilities into charts. Then start building parties for each day based on multiple factors, then finally select the day that has the best looking party. I'll start Friday a little after 7pm EDT. Even IF I finish before I have to go to work the next morning, I'll probably put off announcing anything till Saturday evening to think it over some more.

Of course, if I feel I need longer I'd rather take the time, so there is a possibility of it being further delayed to Sunday evening. I don't want to drag this out any longer than I already have though, so you can count on everything being done by then.

Afterwords I'll probably want to wait a few weeks, so I can get comfortable with running things for the heroes of the ensoulment, before opening the table to guest appearances and so forth, but I still plan on doing that if people are interested and good opportunities arise.
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>>54024157

I don't see how you would reach this conclusion? You can effectively wield a weapon with full 2H bonuses in one hand, but in doing so you may as well equip a tower shield.
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>>54024140
Literally our supposedly CG bard with the difference that he doesn't sound like joking even if he says he does when we ask him "really?". he also break the hands of several thieves early in the campaign as a punishment for stealing...after we left them in hands of the local justice
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>>54024230
Landscheckt.
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>>54024096
Rather well, but really, more's the pity.

The arc villain we'd been building up to didn't get to say much before they went down, and the other major antagonist surrendered immediately after. Then the few attempts at bringing meaningful drama out of the event got blueballed.
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>>54024157
Are you talking about the one anon's super autistic build that mixed Legendary Vigilante with Landsnecht or something, because that looked like it ate every resource, as well as just not being fun to play/build.
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I'd like a bit of advice. I'm working on a campaign with Vancian casting completely replaced by Spheres, Strange Magic, and Akasha for a Tier 3 centered world. I'd like to have Path of War as well because I really like the system, but it seems too overboard for something without level 9 casters. Would having only initiating archetypes and no full initiators work well, or does even a little initiating inflate the damage numbers too much?
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>>54024140

This is why I like playing LE. Every party almost always wants to do that and my character is usually more than happy to step up and take one for the team.
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>>54024204
Well I think the mighty arcane albino sounds more compelling than Morena, who is a pretty face but kind of typical Hellknight.
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>>54024140
>tfw neutral
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>>54024290
Basically every PoW class - including the ones that are 1-9 initiators - are tier 3. if you're that concerned, just limit characters to class options that have 1-6 progression, but I don't see it being a problem either way.
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>>54024290
The only overboard they go into is damage. d4 every d6 and it's fine.
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>>54024299
I'll consider it, but I just don't see the wizard character going to the worldwound, and the "amoral wizard parents" backstory doesn't really work that well in the region. Everywhere that isn't mendev is full of primitives, and Mendev is more focused on actually fighting the demons than the personal decadence required for this sort of arcane bullshit.
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>>54024275
I believe they were. There's a few varieties of that build floating around. I have a version of that build that works without gestalt, it just needs initiating. Night Terror Vigilante, take Advanced Grip as any of your available vigilante talents (you'll have two by level 8, last time I checked), and then get any feats you need to qualify for Landsknecht, which you qualify for by vigilante level 8.

I believe that super-autistic build was mainly for gestalt shenanigans, adding in Brutal Slayer/Bushi to get in on that free-action maneuver recovery and STR to AC and reflex saves.
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>>54024372
Ustalav is right next door, and I would believe the land of decadent nobles and blood experiments with a thick German veneer would have a place for pale-skinned supermages with more genetic abnormalities than Charles II.
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>>54024266

Yes, did you miss the part where I said that if you go that route you still may as well equip a tower shield? Because PoW offers zero benefit for keeping the off hand free.
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>>54024400
I'll definitely consider it, now that you've pointed that out. I'll talk to some people, maybe try to fill in the last few missing gaps in my character's backstory, see if I can make the story cohesive. Thanks for the words of encouragement; no guarantee I'll replace Morena, but I'm definitely considering it now.
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>>54024424
Scarlet Throne

And you can just not use a towershield.
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>>54024504
Hey man, always glad to help. The trait you should be looking for is Chance Encounter in the campaign book, though I could see her having the various other traits as well. Personally, I can see the story unfolding before my eyes as-is; genetic freak raises by distant parents who saw her more as an experiment than daughter, she acquires an imaginary friend who isn't quite that imaginary, and after a couple dry runs to escape her gilded cage, she makes it out at last, following the North Star to Mendev.
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>>54024227
Well then. Thank you for putting into words EXACTLY what you're planning; I'll screencap this and use it as evidence against shitposters who claim that you're "changing the rules" or something.
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>>54022663
>Womanizer witch with a penchant for partial successes and eating all the blame
>Vampiress sword wielding asshole, mostly just selfish and powerhungry
>Gruff gunslinger exiled princess of not-mongolia
>Grand if slightly oblivious old man wizard
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How many FREEDOM lovers are in Ensoulment?
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Show me proof that your DM cares! Do you make sure they know they're appreciated?
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>>54024512

Scarlet throne has zero incentive to keep a hand free other than a level 1 stance.
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>>54025095
re-read the useage clause of scarlet throne
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>>54025076
I'm 100% sure no one cares about me or my game and people only come out to it if they feel like they've exhausted all excuses.
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>>54025076
Yes, I praise them after every session and make sure to spoil them rotten.
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>>54025076
I don't really feel like my GM is very approachable.
They're friends with a few of our group, and I feel like I can't speak confidentially to them.
I also feel like I might get kicked from the group or punished in-game if I bring up complaints.
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>>54024021
Experiencing something horrible which removes his faith in either the worth of law or te sanctity of life, thus causing him to delve into absurdism as a refuge in an uncaring and unjust world.

That, or he views the current society as being too sickly to be a nation/utopia, so he picks up the trade in order to cut out the cancer and attempt to bring things closer to the Socratic ideal of the Republic

Or perhaps he's some sort of Spinozan Panantheist, and after gripping with his sociopathic desire for death and the suffering of others, finally finds peace in the idea that its his purpose in life to embrace his predetermined role as a villain and antagonist
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>>54024290
I say listen to>>54024361 and >>54024331
Either might be fine, though if you're especially worried you can do both. Still, I'd favor dropping the damage over restricting the maneuver level.
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>>54025076
He always adjusts loot table and merchants to give the players loot that fits their characters.

Also, once he allowed the Undead-Bade Greataxe the Bushi picked up to turn into a Katana.
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>>54025125

http://dreamscarred.com/download/DRP271X_PoWErrata.pdf
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>>54025261
W H Y ?
H Y ?
Y ?
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>>54025295
Because fuck you.
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>>54025076
I try, but I don't feel very appreciated. I feel like an outsider.

Of course, that's pretty much my default mental state, so it's probably not my GM's fault.
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>>54022663
>Shota Healbot trapped in said shota-form for being an asshole in their previous 'immortal' life
>Hobo Knight that prays to the myriad small gods and is wicked-good with a longsword
>Robot Gardener with a blunt and straightforward attitude, who tends to a sapling at home
>Fashionata lightning-mage who might or might not be a distant relative to the Thrune line
>Field Medic Druid who sometimes slips into French when upset
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>>54022663
WE GOT HUMANS. WE GOT ELF. WE EVEN GOT TIEFLING.
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>>54022663
>half orc hurler barbarian based off of troll warlord, huge asshole but became my character's bro after fighting him in a duel
>human using some spheres of power class, i forget what it is but everyone calls him a wizard which always makes him say "I'M NOT A FUCKING WIZARD"
>cute human alchemist girl who offers very strange drinks to everyone she meets which often sicken people, but she tries her best to make them tasty anyway
>my chaotic neutral phantom blade spiritualist tiefling, his phantom being fluffed as a war spirit bound inside him by the cult he was born into
I literally made my character ten minutes before the session and somehow he's one of my favorite and most compelling characters I've played in a very long time.
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>>54025076
They've been running a high-powered game for nearly half a year, and have no signs of stopping!

Planning on getting them something nice after my next paycheck.
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Is there a way for a small shadowdancer to ride his shadow?
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>>54024067
Depends on the swarms. Different types of swarms would probably pass through each other but inflict their swarm damage on each other for doing so. Same type swarms probably become a larger swarm of te same type instead of moving through one another.
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>>54025076
Fucker doesn't know how to make balanced encounters nor will he make maps for fucking ANYTHING purely out of laziness. Fuck him.
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>>54025449
Nope.

Can't ride an incorporeal creature.
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>>54025449
No, because incorporeal.
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>>54025449
>>54025478
You can with a ghost touch condom
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>>54023893
I've completely given up hope, Fennec. I never thought I'd write this with such a level-head, but here I am saying it.
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How viable is a mounted build focused on getting chain AoO using teamwork feats such as paired opportunist/pack flanking/outflank/broken wing gambit?
Would two handed be better than two weapon?
I'm thinking of Sanctified Slayer for the sneak attack on two weapons and an Animal Companion from a domain, or a Sacred Huntsman and a two handed reach weapon
How would Hunter/Ranger and other classes stack again'st the inquisitor?
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QUICK!

After Land of the Linnorm Kings, what region do you hope to see given attention?
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>>54025913
bottom of the ocean
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>>54025913
Unironically Brevoy
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>>54025913
Ustalav. I'd love a campaign there, but Carrion Crown was kind of shit for how indecisive it was.
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>>54025945
What, like Ruins of Azlant?
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>>54025959
Game of Thrones: Pathfinder Edition?

You do realize women aren't allowed to be leaders or rulers in Brevoy, right? That seems kind of counter-intuitive to the people who play around here. Why would someone want to play a strong woman that must submit to a man?
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>>54025913

GEB!
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>>54025961
mind flayer realm please

I dunno, anon said QUICK!
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>>54025960
>>54025993
Why not combine these two?

Campaign set in the middle of an Undead Apocalypse as Geb and a resurrected Tar-Baphon tag-team Avistan and Garund.
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>>54025913
Sargava, unironically
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>>54025987
Crystal please GO
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>>54026050
>Implying a tough woman that gives herself to her man every night isn't hot
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>>54022586
Hey /pfg/, how would I go about making a "Cardcaptor" class for a character?

All I have in ideas is:
>class of spirits in the game that have different powers that I can capture and use myself
>start with 3 cards, an Element (Fire, Water, Earth, Air), a movement booster (Fly, Jump, Dash) and probably Sword just because its a Fantasy RPG
>to make it more able to seamlessly blend into the background and be a full class, I can capture certain spirits multiple times to "upgrade" them
>Familiar exists as a passive buff to perception, but once all four elements are sealed, it can assume a more powerful combat form that I can command
>because Sakura never actually had a traditional transformation sequence with a signature costume, the character can use pretty much any armor or other clothing items that they come across
>Because of the disparity between the manga and anime in Card amounts, the Manga list or 19 cardinal spirits that are more plentiful while the rest from the show are lesser spirits and more rare to find
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>>54026100
Dude, you're the one who said that me wanting to know more about a country on the verge of civil war was "counter-intuitive to /pfg/". I just want to know more about Brevoy, I don't care about what's hot or not.
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>>54025913
MANA
WASTES!
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>>54026114
Harrow Medium.
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>>54025913
Mana Wastes an Alkenstar.
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>>54023893
>Be me, a Dwarven Warpriest
>Party is playing the first session of the PF port of Mummy's Mask
> Rogue is doing a piss poor job of finding 90% of the traps because she doesn't think to Take 10
> What few traps she does spot she screws up disarming and triggers it anyway with more piss poor rolls
> Enemies are ungodly hard to fight as level 1's, seriously who pits level 1's against DR/Hardness 5 with more than 10 HP?!
> Last fight before we quit is a series of stairs/doors leading to a golden sarcophagus
> Nobody else is in the room yet, Dwarf steps inside the room
> Another unspotted trap triggers, Sarcophagus comes to life and begins to attack Dwarf
> Part 2 of trap is to close the stairway door that leads to room, other party members make the Reflex save to not get squashed but decide to move into the hallway square instead of the room's square, leaving Dwarf alone
> Sarcophagus 1HKO's Dwarf from 10 HP to -1 in one hit (1d8+4 is no joke), proceeds to swallow Dwarf as final part of trap
> Squad has crowbar but takes 3 turns to re-open the door by force even with lowered DC
> Dwarf, meanwhile, suffocates to death while unconscious in those 3 turns
> Party busts in, eventually defeats Sarcophagus with chip damage (More DR/5)
> Party cries over Dwarf's demise, use dead Sarcophagus as makeshift tomb to carry his dead body
> They forgot to have someone brace it going down the stairs, entire thing comes crashing down destroying everything
> my_heart_will_go_on.recorder as dead body goes crashing down the stairs
> After dying of laughter they manage to drag body back to town to sell what we've got thus far and use it to Reincarnate Dwarf
> Roll on table, Dwarf is now Vanara
> Dwarf comes back to life, sucker punches Wizard that dragged him into this mess in the first place, freaks out now that he's a monkey man

All in all it was a good day.
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>>54023940

Land of the Linnorm Kings is!
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>>54026169
I don't even know where I'm going with this anymore.
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>>54023893
I made a set of race stats for /sug/ over on /trash/

I wish I could actually play with my friends but they all have their own campaigns I wasn't invited to and even if I could get a game going I'd probably have to be the DM
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>>54026322
FLASH
IN
THE
PAN
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>>54026230
Your first session of Mummy's Mask Monkey's Mask now was way more interesting than mine.
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>>54026336
Then why the hell did you make it about fetishes? I just wanted to flesh out a part of the setting.
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>>54026402
Dunno, got my willy out.
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>>54022586
>That awful moment when your entire campaign premise is basically equivalent to a chapter from a book
>That awful moment when that book is Eragon
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>>54026531
Yeah sure but what chapter of Eragon?
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>>54026531
DESU Eragon is terribly generic. Like, it's a cut/paste of the Hero's Journey.
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>>54026531
It could always be worse. It could be the movie
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>>54026587
Babe, are you the Monomyth? Because I want to go over you again and again and again.
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>>54025913
Galt
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How do I be Mozgus?
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>>54026655
Gray paladin with agonizing obedience
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>>54026379
He also get really offended by the mirror Branding him as a Thief, even if he made the save to not take any damage. The backstory we chose is that the wizard was a local of the city and upon hearing about the contest he gathered up his old business associates as well as some hired muscle (insert The Boys Are Back in Town BGM) after losing almost everything and pooling his remaining resources into the hopes that they'd be chosen to enter the tombs.

What he didn't tell the rest of our characters is that we weren't guaranteed to actually get in and that he had to sell the Dwarf's old family heirlooms from generations back to pay for the entry fees.

>>54026587
The magic system was interesting though, say what you want about the Kineticist but it makes for an interesting literary device when your Magus basically has to work with a mana pool that drains his stamina.
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>>54026655
>>54026675
Half giant.
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>>54026640
What level?
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>>54026678
I had played as a kobold Druid (Saurian Shaman) who, long story short, had been kicked out of her warren for thinking dinosaurs are cooler than dragons. She was also an archeologist, but was torn between "respect the history" and "ooh, this looks like it would sell for a pretty copper!" I don't even remember the other PCs, because we just had one or two sessions before the DM cancelled the game because the other players couldn't attend (we had skipped three weeks because of absent players). Ironically, despite being the DM and the other players all living in Australia, I was the only one who was never unavailable or no-showing. Probably for the best though, a campaign that runs at 3 AM is rough.
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>>54026678
The magic system was also done before though. Magic being some kind of language of creation was a real belief, plus it's all over the place in other fantasy (like in TES, where The Thu'um/Dragonspeech is a thing, or even fucking DnD/Pathfinder with Words of Power and Truenaming). As for being physically taxing, well, the fact that DnD's casters *don't* get physically tired from casting spells feels like more of the exception.
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You know, what if using magic wasn't physically taxing, but emotionally taxing? Not like sanity checks and terror, either. Like, each school of magic is associated with a particular emotion (aren't they already in PF, actually?) and using spells from those schools makes you more prone to mood swings, with higher level magic distorting or outright altering your personality?
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>>54026655
LN Living Grimioure Inquisitor of Zon Kuthon
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>>54026873
Be kinda hard to implement that mechanically, plus isn't that already the fluff of Psychic magic?
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>>54026873
Each school of magic is associated with a particular SIN in pathfinder, but not an actual emotion. The closest thing to Emotions and magic shools being interlinked is looking at the Emotional Conduit feat, and the spells it associates with emotions, but that's a weak link at best.
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>>54026655
Do what >>54026892 and >>54026744 say.
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>>54026873
I mean, isn't that just the nature of magic in cosmic horror settings in general? Those are always trying to warn us that we're messing with things way beyond our understanding.

>>54026768
Depends on how fantasy we're talking here. Your LotR and Harry Potters of the world don't really seem to "get tired" as much as the former just straight up has very little active magic in the first place and the latter works off of a seemingly unstated spell slot system, although 90% of the magic they cast seems to be cantrips anyway.
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>>54026931
>>54026892
>>54026744
>>54026675
thanks friends
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>>54026987
I suppose. I just remember a lot of stories where the wizard is physically drained after performing a large act of magic. As long as they're not the hilariously overpowered 20th level wizard in a 5th level campaign.
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Am I fucking retarded?
Is there not a rogue talent of some kind that makes your sneak attacks 1d8 or no, because I can't remember where I saw it.
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>>54027085
Knifemaster archetype is the only thing like that that I can remember.
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>>54027085
It's for catfolk, and only works with their cat's claws and (MAYBE) their Claw Blades.
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>>54027085
Those are mostly archetypes. Waylayer gets 1d8 in the surprise round, Knifemaster gets 1d8 with knives, Skulking Slayer gets 1d8 when charging with a 2H weapon, and the Vicious Claws talent increases sneak attack damage for Catfolk rogues.
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>>54027085
It's an archetype. There are ways to up your average damage though - Powerful sneak rerolls ones, the Advanced version rerolls 1's and 2's.
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Is the Mokele-Mbembe the only Animal Companion with reach?
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>>54027212
>rerolls ones

Hah, you wish. It makes your 1s count as 2s. You know what that does? It changes the average result of your d6 from 3.5 to 3.6! By the time you have 10d6 sneak attack, Powerful Sneak adds up to an average +1 damage!

BWAHAHAHA!
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>>54027285
You can use math all you want, but you KNOW that when roll20 decides to fuck with you, it'll fuck with you RIGHT THEN, when you needed to just do 2s across the board to kill the boss, and all you roll are ones.
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Do you have a pdf version of the Book of the Damned or the Adventurer's Guide? I'm eager to see what's new in it!
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>>54022663
>Lord Raiko of Iceforge, Samurai. Proud leader. From Tian Xia..
>Charmony, scheming sorcerer / bard. uses magic and tricks to defeat enemies. Has one daughter.
>Kazek, bird person, technomancer. Usually summons chair and watches us fight. From Tian Xia
>Echo. Drunken robot paldin. Bender Bending Rodriguez worshiping internet god
>Drake, half vampire power gaming ass hole. Does good damage tho
>Alva. Elven druid who morphs into her pet Elk and becomes a centaur like creature. Trying to save her dad's sanity who was kept inside a cave by witches
>'Zetya'. A reborn character who was originally a fighter but then died and was reborn a witch. To Alva's discomfort.
>Me, Fumbles, evocation wizard. Really bad stats. Awful rolls. Class clown
>Humbles, my younger cousin plays level 10 barbarian chieftan of the mammoth tribe
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>>54022663
>Interrogator Alchemist who's very good at giving very sensual "massages", also does mind control injections
>Paladin/Oracle who's a small boy tentacle demon that wears a dullahan as armor to make himself look more imposing
>Illusion-based fey spherecaster who specializes in making copies of herself that do that stuff she needs when she needs it
>Buttslut Dhampir Rogue who explodes things with nonlethal damage
>Elf pyromaniac pyromancer who explodes things with fire
>Noble girl half-succubus harbinger who desperately tries to not be lewd despite being a succubus
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What would be better for a character who fights using food-related science and shapeshifting/transmutation? Alchemist, Sorcerer, or some variant Druid?
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>>54027546
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>>54025672
>How viable is a mounted build focused on getting chain AoO using teamwork feats such as paired opportunist/pack flanking/outflank/broken wing gambit?
Very
>Would two handed be better than two weapon?
Yes
>I'm thinking of Sanctified Slayer for the sneak attack on two weapons and an Animal Companion from a domain, or a Sacred Huntsman and a two handed reach weapon
Generally, since Boon Companion is a thing, going SancSlay might be better with the Animal Domain, though I'd still reccomend Two-handed fighting.
Hunter however, is a lot more potent at doing it however, and has more stuff available for your pet to get bonuses from

>>54027564
1pp or 3pp? If 1pp only, then really the only thing you'll probably need may be the Brewkeeper PrC. Also the Gingerbread Witch as well works wonderfully for food related magic. So I guess Gingerbread Witch/Brewkeeper?
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>Rory posts the first Lawful Evil app to Nodachis of the Righteous
>It's also a gestalt of the two edgiest classes in the game
>Role is literally "War-criminal"
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>>54027635
I expected no less from such a chronic memester
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>>54027546
Oh my god I remember you! You're one of the Antediluvian games!

>>54027596
You stand in the presence of an ancient, anon. This campaign was the first true ERP campaign for /pfg/. Easily over 2 years old.
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/pfg/ I think I need your advice.
I feel like I've just had a very disappointing and wasteful evening, so I'm in a pretty bad mood, but whether it's just because of that or not, I'm coming dangerously close to burning out on games.

What do you suggest I do to keep from snapping at one of my players or my current GM, saying or doing something I can't take back?
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>>54027703
I would take a break and play some vidya.
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>>54027703
>Inquis
Stop, take a breather, ask to postpone the game t deal with personal issues, then find someone else to talk this about, or possibly take time to write your thougts and feelings on paper so you can think and work them out.

Also, just try to talk it out with the group, be open yet without rancor, and try to meet them halfway in this.

Remember anon, you're an adult, so act like it.
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>>54027703
Talk to them. Talk to your players, see if somebody else wants to take the reins for a while. Talk to your GM, see if your character might take some time to step away from the group for a personal quest. Most groups will be understanding.
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>>54027703
Just tell them you need a break, if they're people worth hanging out with they'll understand. Spend some time on yourself; go out and read a book, watch a movie, eat at a new restaurant. Do not, and I repeat do NOT go on 4chan or read up on what's happening on the Discord or Skype or wherever you play. Watch YouTube if it's funny or fascinating, but keep yourself away from the sources of stress.
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>>54027696
>2 years
Naaaah, can't be THAT long ago, right?
...Right?
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>>54027703
What the other guys said, as someone who went through what you're going through now just tell your mates that you need a break from games for a while and do something else for a week or two.

Personally I spent my time making fun theory-builds based on the Straw Hats from One Piece. Sure it was still technically Pathfinder but it was separate enough that I could treat it like an artist painting a picture.
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>>54027771
I misspoke, the campaign opened some time around May of last year.
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>>54027606
the gingerbread witch is very tempting, but I was hoping he wouldn't specialize in candy.

I can think of surprisingly rational explanations for how he would make explosions, acids, gas attacks and even lightning with his powers but a lot of witchy hexes might stretch my limits
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>>54027798
That sounds more like it. Yeah, it's been a while though.
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>>54027792
>Personally I spent my time making fun theory-builds based on the Straw Hats from One Piece.
Oh hey, I remember you. How was that project anyway and how far did you get?
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Why is necromancy such a strong school? Blindness/deafness is a second level spell that permanently blinds or deafens. Bestow curse is fourth level and gives -6 to an ability score until the curse is removed. Seems pretty ridiculous.
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>>54028124
Because they're all save-or-suck. You get just the one chance, and as a player, that's not really much of a problem since you're probably going to kill the enemy outright anyway.

It's more of a hazard for enemies to inflict on one of your party, which fucks them up in the long term and forces you to spend resources fixing it.
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>>54028141
True. I guess that's why they get command undead. You stay behind your horde while debilitating enemies and letting them fuck them up
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>>54028063
I lost steam about halfway through Usopp, as it wasn't quite as fun to try and purposefully build something janky that doesn't quite "work" right isn't as fun as making something that's accurate AND strong. (keep in mind these are basically pre-timeskip builds just before Sabaody, so Usopp's "player" hasn't had the opportunity to say he rebuilt his character to be more streamlined and functional)

Here's the list of builds I worked on. Part of me is glad I stopped where I did, Lord knows I have no clue what I was going to do to build Robin and Franky was going to be jank through and through if I couldn't find a way to give him some kind of not-easily-bypassable DR while also having him be basically a Dirty Trick build.

Brook: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1150615
Luffy: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1165072
Nami: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1173648
Sanji: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1047768
Chopper: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1155781
Chopper (fully buffed): https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1157207
Usopp: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1179430v
Zoro: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1158134
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Will there be any more memes apps before Ensoulment closes?
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So I have been continuing the design of the Relic Users subsystem under the idea of relics and relic powers for characters both as part of class features and based around feats. I will explain the design concept behind relic powers in the idea of Tall vs. Wide. First I will explain how selecting Relic Powers will work.

Let us say you are a level 7 Relicist. You have a total of 10 powers to spend. Being a Relicist you have to spend all but four on your Primary relic the rest spent on your secondary relic. Relic are a large list of archetypical items. Examples being Blade, Club, Dagger, Cloak, Saddle, Idol, Pendant, Cauldron, Skull, and more (there are 21 total relics). Relicist, as an example, select their primary and secondary relics at level 1.

Now selecting Relic Powers. Things are not level gated like how powers work for spells, maneuvers, etc. Instead they are quantity gated. Powers are separated into four categories going from Minor, Major, Greater, and True. When one first gains a relic they can only choose minor powers. Now here is where it differs from spells. Let us take our example Relicist. he has chosen three minor Dagger powers, which qualifies him to take one Major power. This does not mean he can simply start taking major powers, he must take three more minor to gain a new major. Every three of a lower level qualifies you for one of a higher level. The Relicist spend six of his powers of cloak, and four on dagger. This means he has three minor dagger, one major. Five minor cloak, and one major (needing one more to qualify for a second major).

So to get a Relic's True Power you need a total of 3 greater, 9 major, and 27 minor, or 40 total powers spent on a single relic (most relics have exactly 40 powers). Because simply amount of investment gates higher powers one can either build tall or wide and different classes are built around being better at tall or wide. There are three main classes:
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>>54028440
>Relicist
Relicist has a primary and secondary relic and is focused mainly around building tall. They get more total powers but can only spend it on a limited number of relics.

>Collector
Collectors get to choose a large list of relics to invest in, but get less total powers and are incentivized by other class features to spread out their powers.

>Psychometrist
Psychomestrists are able to get powers on the fly temporarily but have a limited number of fixed powers, making access to greater powers difficult

Here is the full list of relics:
>dagger
>club
>bow
>shield
>armor
>blade
>spear
>candle
>cloak
>chalice
>pendant
>cauldron
>skull
>femer
>saddle
>idol
>tome
>gem
>drum
>horn
>sack
>spyglass

Now to explain the next concept using our Relicist, Cross Powers. As one can see with this list it's fairly easy to see the main themes of the different relics. Some relics also thematically work well together, such as Cloak and Dagger. People are incentivized by taking these both mechanically and thematically synergized relics (cloak is illusion & personal defense, dagger is stealth and damage) with cross powers. By having one major Cloak and one major Dagger power (as the example Relicist has), he qualifies for one major Cloak and Dagger power, the cross power. This means since he only needs two to qualify they are cheaper, and they don't set you back on your track towards greater powers (getting a cross powers doesn't count against the three required to get the next level up).
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>>54028452
Ok, now for what has cross powers, some examples are:
>blade & shield
>cloak & dagger
>saddle & spear
>saddle & idol
>candle & tome
>spyglass & bow
>pendant & gem
>drum and femer
>armor & shield
>cauldron & chalice

On a whole the idea behind all this is building classes centered around thematic purposes and making building into themes easy. Since adding new relics is relatively easy new themes can be added on the fly. The only issue is the design space for what relic powers can do. However because relic powers are magical in nature their powers can range from mundane static buffs (a club major powers increases your BaB to full BaB if your class doesn't have it) to the supremely magical (a sack greater power creates a tiny version of a demiplane).
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as someone who's only played DnD 3.5, what is PP? is that like level adjustment or something?
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>>54028440
>Relicist

Y'know that Reliquarian is a word right?

>>54028560
What context is it in?

Because PP is often used for Power Points, from Psionics.

Or if you mean 1pp and 3pp, that's first party/third party publishers.
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>>54028275
Also if I was to build any further I'd probably want to try and maybe build some Yonko now that they're starting to become relevant in the story, the only problem is that their abilities are usually SO specific that it's hard to pinpoint specific classes that would grant them what I want without being bogged down by what I don't. Whitebeard, for instance, would probably be something gestalted with some flavor of Barbarian or Bloodrager and the Old Man template to show his decline (though he could still pound your face in no problem).

In addition to being level 20 Gestalts I'd probably also throw in some Mythic Levels to show just how insanely broken they are compared to everyone else. God help me if I ever try it.
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>>54028600
>Y'know that Reliquarian is a word right?
I did not, thank you.
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>>54028679
It's already the name of an Occultist archetype, don't use it.
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>>54029015
Ignore him, use it anyways
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>>54029015
He's already doing more or less exactly what Occultist does in a different way, it doesn't really matter.
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things heating up in the cabal
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>>54029173
Oh god fuck yourself.
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>>54029173
Seriously, which one are you? Why are you an asshole? We EXPLICITLY ASKED NOT TO DO THIS. Why do you feel the need to be a troll, huh?
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>>54029173
She still does the caps on Discord? That's adorable.
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>>54029180
>>54029190
Is this what autism looks like?
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>>54029235
>Telling people that they're shitheads for doing exactly what was asked of them not to is now autism
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>>54029246
Stop taking the bait retard. Why do you think this keeps happening?
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>>54029190
I've left you enough clues. You could find me if you really tried.
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>>54029246
>m-muh cabal privacy
>m-muh sekrit club
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>>54029309
What clues? There ARE no clues. I don't care that I'm taking bait, at least man up and admit who you are so you can stop being such a cowardly, pathetic, basement-dwelling milk-drinking wuss.
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>>54029323
Jesus Christ dude, you're being a total fucking sperglord
Are you genuinely this asspained that someone doesn't follow the rules in your invite only cancerclub?
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I don't Discord but this is pretty entertaining. Keep going.
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>>54029340
why do you think someone would make a private club in the first place?
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What's a good gestalt with a two-handed weapon paladin?
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>>54029351
Because they're a thin-skinned sack of shit that needs an echo chamber to feel relevant?
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>>54029377
basically.

that and control. as evidenced by the current sperging.
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>>54029356
Bloodrager or straight up Barbarian.
SMOSH
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Can ya'll shut up, whoever is doing this is just doing it for the (you)s, stop giving him attention, retards.
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>>54029393
>>54029377
[vicious circle jerking about another group circle jerking]

so anyway pfg, whatcha think about Rajah so far? The back line initiator veil user
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>>54029393
It all goes back to autism, in the end.
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>>54029356
>>54029356
Depends on how all in you want to go on combat.
I'd recommend Bloodrager, personally, since that doesn't distract you from your role as a damage-dealer, and puts your Charisma to good use as well. Scaled Fist might be decent, but that shackles you to Monk's problems.

If you want more versatility, I'd say Skald instead.
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>>54028679
Spelling issues aside, this sounds interesting and fun. I look forwards to seeing the rest of it.
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>>54029396
>>54029422
Bloodrager is literally more of the same kind of stuff, but I guess some of the Bloodlines give some cute passive boosts.

Skald seems interesting, but sort of inappropriate for the character.
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So what's the balance point on a race that's blind but has blindsight?

Like is 'actually blind' enough to make up for permanent blindsight?
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>>54029635
>Like is 'actually blind' enough to make up for permanent blindsight?
No.
Blindsight is stupid strong.
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>>54029542
>inappropriate for the character
Given the range of archetypes and that any GM worth half a shit should allow you to refluff things as necessary, I'd say to throw that qualm aside.
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>>54029190
There's so many people in the "cabal" that you may as well not consider anything private. Keep that in mind and stop flipping out every time this happens. The reaction is part of why it keeps happening and no one else really seems to care (and they rightfully shouldn't).
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>>54029672
Yeah, but then 'I can actually only perceive out to 60ft' has a lot of impact.

Hm.

Maybe just 'you don't have eyes, can see out to [distance] anyway, but don't have to worry about blindness-type things' instead.
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>>54022663
>A meddling, smooth-talking, shape-shifting witch who specializes in dream magic
>An errant knightly prince who renounced his family to forge his own place in the world
>A vampiric money-obsessed soulknife with a ghost girlfriend who always knows the exact wrong thing to say
>A maniacal shadow sorceror seeking revenge on the fiend who destroyed his family, has minions whom he abuses
>A scheming enchanter who now owns the town the party is based out of and is seeking to free his new wife from her debilitating curse
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>>54029702
>Yeah, but then 'I can actually only perceive out to 60ft' has a lot of impact.
It's irrelevant in a party as your party mates can communicate the position of enemies to you.
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>>54029726
That's still full concealment witha 50% miss chance, dude. Blindsense means you still suffer concealment for 50% miss chance, but blindsight means no miss chance.
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>>54029758
>That's still full concealment witha 50% miss chance, dude.
Literally only matters for archers. Noone else will care about attacking further than 60ft.

>Blindsense means you still suffer concealment for 50% miss chance, but blindsight means no miss chance.
Exactly. The dude was asking about Blindsight.
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>>54029726
You wanna try and quickly convey to a blind person where something is?
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>>54022663
>Drow bard who has trouble with words in common
>Tiefling Samurai obsessed with his sister (in the bad way)
>Gay fish man druid
>Dwarf who can't help but insult every single person she meets
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>>54029772
Use spherical coodinates dum-dum
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>A blind halfling warlord who went blind because he showed mercy during a sparring session in his monastery. Now gives no quarter in combat and uses his handicap to his advantage.

>An orc witch, runt of his tribe with extraordinary intelligence, very poor strength and poor social manners, searching the world they are in to enhance his own abilities

>A druid neanderthal, living in a world where firearms already exist, the chosen one of th campaign in which there are no druids left. He hears the voices of the gods that were once a dominant force in the setting and are now but an echo. An innocent creature, dumb as a rock, addicted to alcohol and drugs and seemingly getting more and more addicted to other vices of the world he found himself thrust in after thousands of years spent in cryo sleep from which he awakened, finding that nobody from his clan or race exists anymore.

>The elf magus, last of his kind, for there are no elves more remaining. Wants to find out what happened to his race which were the dominant race before a global ware escalated. Travelled with his human grandfather before the man kicked it in battle.

>A human investigator, sly, diplomatic, pussy hound. Wants to do what's right, but is not beneath going to extreme methods. Serves his kingdom, but probably has a hidden agenda.
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>>54022663
>Chatty bigshot Druid high up on the ladder of the local circle, zealous, pushy and hates waiting; somehow has failed to put points in Survival and has no sense of direction
>Lean mean swole Ranger machine, except he's also a softie who helps out the depressed and struggling with their worries, and regularly gives money to charities and promising youngsters with good ideas; expert haggler who easily gets stuff for free
>High-CHA Inquisitor who is the Druid's only equal in being pushy and chatty, long and lanky and nicknamed 'Asparagus'; has ranks in Profession (lawyer) and uses them whenever he possibly can
>Patriotic Skald/Druid who digs deep into historical documents, he strives to revive the old faith; expert mountaineer and coveted tenor, regularly debates loudly with the Inquisitor to the chagrin of everyone else
>Dyslectic Bard with a charitable streak, who does her best despite all hardships and overcomes any obstacle with hard work; has an ongoing conflict with the Skald due to their conflicting beliefs but tries not to let it come between them
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>>54030077
If this is a party comp, then you need to fix the sausage party my man
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>>54023893
Had a short session that had exactly zero combat encounters. Party ended up in a village that is thriving, which is odd for a setting that is going the way of Dark sun slowly but surely. Turns out they hate elves. Like really, really hate elves and one of the party members is an elf. The town mayor and his two sons also have one elf that they keep on a short leash that's a druid that grows stuff for them and in turn doesn't get beaten too much or killed.

It was kind of fun seeing the party's short fused halfing control himself the entire session from not going apeshit against the mayor's son who mocked him and the party and telling them to get the fuck out fo their village because they hang out with an abomination (elf).

Elf was surprisingly chill with it, though.
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>>54030087
>women adventurers
spoken like a true libcuck
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>>54030539
>not playing as a ladyknight
Why are you such a faggot, anon?
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>>54030087
Thankfully, we never had our wives-gf with us. They are not interested in it, and we like it that way. It's the nerdy guy's night out.
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>>54023934

So why is this considered a bad thing, anyways?

Are DMs supposed to stay blind to apps until the very last moment in order to fairly judge them equally against each other?

DM's have preferences, and knowing who you are leaning towards isn't indicative of some sort of scheme. Fuck, I'm not the DM and I already know who I want to make it into the game. Why should I expect them to hold out this long without at least a few picks in mind?
>>
Can someone link me the Gallows of Madness and Ire of the Storm module PDFs?
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>>54031064
There's plenty of apps that seem pretty jokey compared to the rest. Then again there was a post about tone of apps before that happened.

The public apps around here are for entertainment purposes. If you want to get in, dial in your app over discord like the rest.
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>>54031271

Cancer
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>>54030552
>ladyknight
Bet you think Brienne could beat Prime Jaime.
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>>54031887
She did in the TV show.
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>>54029542
>Inspiring divine fervor in your allies
>inappropriate

do you even deus vult?
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>>54032554
What part of Prime don't you understand? He was dehydrated, starved and had his hands bound.
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>>54029323
I wonder if you actually thought he would tell you if you asked.
>>
Are amoral characters considered neutral or evil?
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>>54032927
Yes
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>>54032927
there's literally an "Amoral Mercenary" trait in Hell's Vengeance. It requires you to be Neutral Evil, but lets you detect as true neutral a few times a day.
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Are there any Hydromancer classes? Spells? Archetypes?

I want to play someone who commands the tides!
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>>54032997
Unfortunately, that's Kineticist.
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>>54032997
Water Kineticist.

Or really anyone with access to water spells.
>>
Dead game, dead thread, dead life.
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>>54033036
>>54033036
>>54033044

She is certainly thick enough to be a Con build.
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>>54033322
Thick =/= Con!
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>>54033036

>not superior Cha-slut elemental avowed
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>>54033350
>mfw Bard (Rubato) || Avowed (Elemental)

I'm getting some Azura vibes with this gestalt combination.
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>>54033342

>muh stat autism
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>>54033367
I don't remember the part where Azura got her powers from a Water Elemental.
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Stat these two out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPgafBEqn4
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>>54033500
Well yeah, that's where Bard (Rubato) comes in, I was more associating the Water Elemental aspect with her pendant.
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>>54033518
Middle Aged Human Brawler vs Middle Aged Human Martial Artist Monk
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>>54033518
>>54033563
And while we're on the subject of Mike Tyson, how much damage does getting bitten by something that doesn't have an explicit "bite" attack do?
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>>54033592
Would say that the ear biting is akin to something you'd get from a crit card if you use them, so somewhere along the lines of "Normal/double damage and deafended/1d2 con damage/1d4 bleed" would be where ear biting is.
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>>54033592
Based on size? Small 1-2, med 1-3, large 1-4, huge 1-6, gargantuan 1-8, colossal 1-10. Mind you bite damage is strength x 1.5 damage, and is considered bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing.
>>
I've been away from anything Pathfinder related for about half a year, anything exciting been released lately?
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>>54033563
Tyson is definitely a Str build while Donnie Yen's got Jabbing Style.
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>>54024227
Confirmed for all-celeb party on Tuesdays.
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>>54033794
Mondays work too.
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>>54033779
I feel like Tyson is more of an Intimidating Prowess build than just a pure Strength. He relied of scaring his opponants into opening their guard, then going for the quick single round KO while they were wary.

Any time Tyson had to go multiple rounds against people that weren't scared of him, he struggled and often lost, So he's a Str/Cha build that didn't pump any of his Con
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>>54023786
>WotR closing in exactly 2 weeks
How long do we think it'll be before Tuv has another LADYKNIGHTS freakout in the general and deletes the LFG? My money's on this Thursday.
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>>54034047
LADYKNIGHTS
LADYKNIGHTS
LADYKNIGHTS
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>>54034047
>>54034060
LADYKNIGHTS
ADYKNIGHTSL
DYKNIGHTSLA
YKNIGHTSLAD
KNIGHTSLADY
NIGHTSLADYK
IGHTSLADYKN
GHTSLADYKNI
HTSLADYKNIG
TSLADYKNIGH
SLADYKNIGHT
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>>54034004
Part of his decline was that his best trainer died and the replacements were just yesmen that got him complacent.
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>>54034086
Now I want to see art of all the best LADYKNIGHTS apps drinking together on LADYSNIGHT
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>>54034047
Honestly, I'm glad I decided to pull out before applying, as it saved me from being part of the freakshow.

Sure, it sucks I'll never be able to use any of the characters I came up with in a campaign since its unlikely anyone will make something with the same rules as Tuvarkz, but I can live with both character ideas being put to rest
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>>54034133
Who would be doing what?
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>>54034190
I haven't been following WotR so I don't even know who the best LADYKNIGHTS apps are. It was just a funny thought that popped into my head because of the stagger.
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>>54034184
I bet you'll have your chance someday! I believe in you!
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>>54034184
Tuvarkz's rules aren't that different from the /pgg/ standard, you can probably adapt the character to another game fairly easily.
>>
>>54034323
Speaking of another Game, who was the one who wanted to Make the Witch to My Hexenwachter character? because it'd probably make sense to get that all organized in case someone runs a game in that general Area, or otherwise Reign of Winter.
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>>54034323
>>54034282
thanks, though unless its also a WotR game, it probably won't work. I always try to craft characters with backstories that specifically lead them to an adventure.

The only other kind of campaign where I'dimagine them being able to work would maaaybe if someone tries to revive Molthune Knights, but even then only one of them would be able to fit.

Now then I guess all I can do is wait for another game to come out to tickle my fancy, and until then I'll just sit around and listen to Pink Floyd and play Mobius Final Fanasy
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>>54034367
It was me!
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Say, I'm working on a homebrew Oracle mystery, and I'm currently furnishing an idea and would like some feedback.

how do you feel about a Mystery where one revelation is relatively simple, but as you take more revelations they each alter and empower that one early revelation?

Also, posting this pic of thicc Seoni in hopes of garnering attention
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>>54034434
So like Spheres of Power. Just for one class feature?
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>>54034453
I guess that could be a way to describe it, never thought of it as such. I just thought it would be cool to have revelations that combo, and allow for cool tricks without making a single revelation too powerful
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>>54034184
I swear this is just false flagging.

These posts happen too much and I don't actually see posts disappearing
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>>54034434
>>54034434

>dat Seoni

Unf
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>>54034415
Well, okay.
>>
I forgot this was a thing so I'm reminding you fuckos.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker
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>>54034582
Learn reading comprehension dingus. I said I pulled out before I applied, meaning I abandoned the idea of apply before I finished and submited my application.

I'd say the name of who I am on roll20, but I'd rather not contribute to the e-celeb shitposting and attention whoring.
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>>54034434
A concept like that sounds more like an archetype than a mystery desu
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>>54028457
>>54028452
>>54028440
Now here are my two main questions:
>How do people feel about cross powers conceptually? Do you think they would help you build an interesting character?

>Do you think there are any iconic 'relics' that I am missing? Note that stuff like Candle includes any flame based light source (lamp, lantern, torch), I just had to choose something to name it.
>>
>>54034599
Were you generic?
>>
>>54034701
[Yes.]
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>>54034709
Shoot me a Discord link, I don't think I'm in any of yours
>>
>>54034721
Okay, first off, how the fuck do i spoiler or whatever here?!
>>
Kinda new to PF, we found a ram ring, can only casters use it? It mentions you use your caster levels for CMB rolls.

Also, damn, still not a single magic item for my brawler and we're already 7th level.
>>
>>54034694
Are you still intending on submitting an app to WotR?
>>
>>54034738
Highlight the text you want to spoiler and type ctrl+s

If that doesn't work, type {spoiler} and {/spoiler} (replacing the curly braces with square braces) around the text you want to spoiler.
>>
>>54034738
ctrl+s, newfag

>>54034746
Do you mean a Ring of the Ram?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/rings/ring-of-the-ram/
If so, it uses the Ring's caste level. All magic items have a built in caster level for the purposes of saves and abilities. In this case for the ring it would be CL 9

Also
>not a single magic item for my brawler and we're already 7th level.
This is not okay. You should at least have some kind of magical weapon, or a simple amulet or cloak. Why hasn't the DM given you anything, and why haven't you bought something or sucked your caster's dick to craft you something?
>>
Oh, I'm looking forward to making a battle ladder monk build. Finally, my wish to make a Jackie Chan will be realized.
>>
>>54034738
hownew.ru
>>
>>54034415
but yeah, on Discord, i'm Generic Gamer#9243 Told you i was a Gamer who was Generic.
>>
>>54025055
I mean plenty
>>
>>54034860
I gathered that much. I just didn't know your number!
>>
>>54034860
Fix your WotR app's name.
Ademon is pitiful. A paladin literally called "a demon"? Really? How much did his parents hate him? Is his father called Adevil?
>>
>>54034929
i just copy and pasted from a random name generator, actually. i'll think of something better.
>>
>>54032554
>TV show
>canon
Fuck off normie.
>>
>>54034799
Yes.
>>
>>54034906
Who are our Ensoulment AUTHORITARIANS, then?
>>
>>54034647
Remind us of a pile of shit? But why? There are so many things wrong with that kickstarter I can't even begin to count them.
>>
>>54034860
>more likely to get in than Broodie

Nodachi is such an incredible meme
>>
>>54034982
Pfft. Longspears for life, man.
>>
>>54034970
The shitty memes like c3 and vandread
>>
>>54034929
There. Ademon is now Elminar. a more Half-Elfy name, i'd wager.
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>>54035021
Much better.
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>>54022663
>Haughty Dhampir Summoner, she keeps calling herself "the boss" ever since she took it upon herself to revive her dying noble house. Is a little forgetful, but will usually pull through in the end. She is currently petrified.
>Mysterious Chocolate Draconic Sorcerer, I'm pretty sure she's a human? Handles our transportation, and throws whatever debuffs she can during fights.
>A Human Magus, the summoner's cohort and retainer, mostly keeps quiet unless there's a convenient bit of fun lore or exposition the GM wants to sprinkle in. He apparently has a crush on the sorcerer.
>Half-Elf Alchemist in way over his head, who's trying his best to keep the party alive. Mostly by jamming buffs down everyone's throats and crafting during any and all downtime. Hasn't screamed like a terrified little girl in over a dozen sessions and counting.
>The Alchemist's Daughter, a bow-toting Homunculus who (ignoring the Summoner's Eidolon) is the most physically powerful member of the party despite being the smallest. Thanks to immunities, has stared down vast amounts of bullshit without batting an eye and prevented several potential TPKs.
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>>54035030
>Alchemist daddy
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>>54034820
The reason is that the GM doesn't have magic item market for anything that isn't potions and maybe low level wands. He also doesn't use craft feats, so every magic item is rolled.
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>>54035070
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>>54035080
>GM doesn't have magic item market for anything that isn't potions and maybe low level wands.
>He also doesn't use craft feats, so every magic item is rolled
>this GM likely isn't even using ABP at all, let alone a "corrected" version of it
>This means the level 7 Bralwer has NO magic items

Holy fucking shit dude
>>
>>54035080
>trying to enforce low magic items in PF
>the one system least suited for low magic
Wow, he must hate martials. Doesn't he know that reliance on magic items is one of the only things that keeps martials relevant at later levels?
>>
>>54035080
Run from this game, anon. Run for your fucking life.
>>
>>54034323
>Tuvarkz's rules aren't that different from the /pgg/ standard

+5 PB, +1 level is pretty fucking extreme compared to the /pgg/ Standard.
>>
>>54022663

>Half-elf Cavalier, bastard son of a nobleman and a Calistrian Priestess. Banging his squire, may or may not be banging other party members thanks to contested bluffs to hide some secrets against the rest of the party, which blew the situation wildly out of proportion.
>Half-elf Numerian expat Oracle. Bum leg, nasty moon magic, leads the party by virtue of everyone else thinking she makes for a good fall guy.
>Full elf Investigator. Drank some weird draughts and has a beard and some actual muscle. Sherlocks his way out of combat so he can draw the monsters in question for an encyclopedia he's working on.
>Tiefling skald. Metalhead. Used to be in a dueling academy in a prestigious school before he fucked off. Hinted to be because he puts on a smooth front but can't handle people doing the same, so he left school rather than be flirted at like a complete dweeb.
>Half-orc Magus. Born into a half-elf dynasty in Minkai, apparently grandmother did the nasty with some orcs and didn't tell anyone. Has hit on and at least kissed every party member with marginal-to-exceptional success. Complete tomboy.

party took kingmaker's SoIaF tone and made a mockery of it, basically.
>>
>>54035207
More /pfg/ games are not gestalt than are, so that's different from the standard as well.
>>
>>54035117
>Magic mart for potions, scrolls, wands
>half of ABP in effect for AC and resistance
>stat boosts and minor items handed by flavor and design
>crafting stipend between quests
This system works pretty good
>>
>>54035057
have ceased
>>
>>54035030

I remember this, wasn't there a barbarian in the party that had to leave
>>
>>54035285
New thread
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>>54035285
>page 6
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>54035307
If it makes you feel any better. I just had the thread on standby and was gonna wait till 8....

But I butt posted it.


Word of advice. Don't make threads on your phone! !
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>>54035287
Yes, most unfortunate since she could have tipped the scales handily in our favor. Press F to pay respects.
At least she might get her own sidestory.
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>>54035117
>>54035127
technically he gives us our WPL in rolled gold/items, but it's rolled
>>
>>54035386
What are the tables he's using for the rolls?
>>
>>54035367
F

Keep us posted on the side story, bruv
>>
>>54032927
Neutral. Amoral is not immoral.
>>
>>54035428
The ones in the DMG I guess
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