Infinity General -- You stepped into the Wrong Neighborhood Edition

*Ghazi blocks your path*

>>54020870
I use stealth, close Combat, Engineering, long range shooting, Warband units, or literally just resetting to counter them.

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Top secret YuJing trash container prototype, model 'Tapir'

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>>54020870
I proceed to lose the game.
Fucking. Ghazi.

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Talking SunTzu. I haven't played a lot in general yet, and it just dawned on me that the guy fires flash pulses with awesome WIP 17. I like the multi rifle option and want to try him, maybe together with a SMS drone. Is that based?
I guess I'll just have to look for a CoC pheasant in case he fucks up.

>>54021146
>not model 'Taiwan'

>>54020870
>>54021154
Fair and balanced.


>>54021146
Neat.
I keep meaning to post my modular wip table but I gotta use my phone so pictures will be huge. And I'm sure the quality won't be amazing either.

>>54020841
Nice colors anon.

>>54021146
Isn't a Tapir the mammal with the longest proportional penis?

>Shock Army of Acontecimento
>Neoterran Capitaline Army
Give me a quick rundown on these sectorials, infini/tg/. Why does nobody seem to care about them in comparison to the Military Orders and vanilla PanO?

>>54021530
Because people like Deus Vult and are attracted to Space Knights. That's why Space Marines are popular in general.

>SAA
Has the best MI link team in the game. Many overall solid troops with Guarda De Assaulto, Regulars, and great unit loans from Aleph like the Naga TO Camo skirmisher. Overall lends to crunchy shooty lists like PanO usually does. Was once a large tournament winner.

>NCA
Just don't take bolts as a core unless you're facing Haqqislam or Tohaa.

Has a very solid base core link with Fusiliers, some neat elites like Locusts. Their Swiss guards are great TO/Camo shooty guys. They overall play into the strengths of elite units like taking an Orc Haris.

At least that's my impression of both of them after facing them a couple of times.

>>54021707
>Bagh mari
>Best in the game

>>54021707
>Naga
>TO camo

i think you mean Dasyus

>>54021240
>with a SMS drone
What's it gonna do, send angry text messages to the opponent?

>>54022760
Well he means Naga, just not TO
SAA gets ava 2 nagas, which are just regular camo

>>54022555
What would you hold above a bagh Mari link?

>>54021240
If you meant the SML drone, no. Flash pulse is just a flashlight to blind people, if you don't have Forward Observer you can't mark targets for missiles.

Janissaries threw me off because the Ayyar's shorter than I expected

>>54023270
I think we need to list all the MI core options to even start that discussion.

PanO
>Bagh, Bolts

YJ
>Doesnt believe in MI

Ariadna
>Scotchguard, Briscards, Maruaders, Grunts

Haqq
>Djanbannans, Druze, Sekban, Lasiqs da fuck???

Nomads
>Wildcats, Moiras

CA
>Rodoks, Yaogats, probably some shasvastii but no one plays them

Aleph
>Earnmorenachos, disqualified.

Tohaa
>Triad, also disqualified

Then there are all the special links that throw characters and other units into the MI core links.

>>54023629
Man I forgot Kaplans and Muyibs are LI.

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Could someone post pics of your Infinity minis compared to warhammer ones? The only ones I worked with are stormcast eternals and they are actually pretty big-ass models so I'm a little scared of working with smaller ones. Also I want to see your paint job desu

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>>54023990
Here's an old pic I took. Yu Jing and Haqqislam next to some Misc. Warhammer pieces of comparable sizes and painted by the same person.

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>>54023990
>>54024428
Another one that's more meant to compare the heavy guys.

>>54023990
>stormcast eternals
While you're here, can you explain the appeal of them, or AoS in general?

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>>54023990
>>54024428
>>54024454
Sadly I don't have my painted Infinity models with me at the moment to directly compare some different examples, but I can further show the state of things with models I have on hand, albeit unpainted.

What you'll notice is that models have gradually upscaled since the earlier days to when they started doing Computer Aided Design for all models they made. The 28 mm scale is closer to 30 mm, even reaching up to 35 for some Heavy Infantry.

Overall, even since the early days Infinity models have had their humans more proportionate than GW, closer to "truescale" compared to "Heroic scale" which can mean it's a bit harder to paint for some, or at least, it's something to get used to.

Also a lot more girl models represented in Infinity, for better and worse, usually better.

>infinity RPG
where can I find the cost to acquire a Gecko TAG?

>>54024532
>can you explain the appeal of them
When I started playing AoS I was looking for a cheap wargame. The AoS starter set was not expensive so I decided to do what most newbies are doing desu. Also I have always like the paladin-like aesthetic of heavy armours, big shields and warhammers so they just fit my taste. I also like the idea of mask-helmets - some people say that it makes SCE bland and "golem-like" but in see them as a living vengeance and pure purpose thanks to this. But as I said - it's a matter of taste
>or AoS in general?
I have picked the AoS when the 40k was still a big steamy pile of unbalanced and needless shit that someone would call "rules". I tried it and hate it - form over content etc. I was looking for something fresh, easy to learn and newbie-friendly so I could drag my friends into the hobby and don't fuck with a toxic community. AoS was cheap, new and there was no salty bitching """veterans""" crying about their 20yo armies (most of them were engaged in giving 9th age a chance for 10 minutes and then start playing armada) so the community was friendly as fuck. Then the GHB has come and there was no point to drop the game

>>54024428
>>54024454
>>54024616
Thank you guys. Well, the size difference is definitely noticeable. I'm pretty scared desu

>>54024673
also, how do I calculate Morale and Security?

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>>54023990
HAHA TIME FOR MY SHITTY PAINT JOBS

Completely different painting techniques and I swear these look presentable even when holding them a foot away from your face.

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And here is the best angle for Infinity models!

>tfw too lazy to set up proper lightbox and your last spess mehreens date your exit from 40k

>>54024673
Pretty sure that stuff will be in a supplementary book.

>>54025037
You just need to take your photos in flattering lighting/angles. Have some Su Jiass.

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>>54025161
forgot my picture

>>54025114
aw, ok

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>>54025161
No doubt. Had to check my FK after seeing that red dot on his thigh and it is in fact orange like its supposed to be.

>>54025175
Excellent

bump from the booty of the board

Holy fuck I just want to see at least the art or line for the Varuna or Tunguska sectorials already shit even the art of the blackjack will do even I don't play the Ardinia.

>>54026985
Highlight of my Infinity year has been finally seeing what a Nexus looks like.

Now to wait another year before I actually see a model and it'll not be a blister of two or a box of four. I tend to run two in a list since it's such an obvious Lt.

>>54023990
>so I'm a little scared of working with smaller ones
Don't do it, stay in your designated reservation

>>54023990
man I know how you feel. I love how infinity models look like, I even got a few from friends as a gift, but first two tries at assembling them tought me a valuable lesson about me being a plastic man only.

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>>54024797
I'll just say this. It isn't all that much to paint Infinity figures. The usual base coat, wash, and highlight works here all the same, something all the better because of the more details to give things texture.

In my opinion it's not harder, it's just different.

>>54027421
>In my opinion it's not harder, it's just different.
Nah it will be harder, since he never tounched 1:28 scale

>>54027636
Yeah, but the newer models are closer to 30mm scale.

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>>54023990
I need to finish up that Freebooter gang.

>>54023270
Grunts and possibly Marauders. As strond as Bagh-Mari are, Grunts are both cheaper and hardier and have cheaper sniper rifles. Although they tend to be more defensive than offensive.

Bagh-Mari are probably the second best PanO Core team though, right after Magisters.

>>54027690
>30mm scale.
Still too hard for him.

>>54021530
SAA are lightly armoured jungle fighters, they like their Mimetism and Camo and lack some of the PanO fancier toys, but make up for it with higher WIP and Tikbalang.

NCA are basically "the best of" of PanO and they are very popular. They get cheap Fusiliers link (which is still damn deadly thanks to BS12), Swiss Guard, Auxilia and some ALEPH help like Devas and Garuda that make up for some usual PanO voes. Personally as a vanilla PanO player I like dabbling in NCA the most (in large part because a lot of their units are things I'm already using, like Fusils, Black Friar or Aquila guard).

>>54021374
Yes.

>>54027744
BM are significantly hardier than Grunts. +1 ARM is nice, but it's not even close to the extra protection mimetism provides. Grunts are just a good line troop link with a few fun toys like the burst 2 heavy flamer.

I'd say Rodoks and Marauders are the closest to Bagh Mari. They're both reasonably cheap and have a skill to make them tougher, with a mobility skill and lots of versatile profiles to boot.

>>54023312
Fuck

>>54027828

NCA is essentially vanilla+, with pretty much everything included and even some extras thrown in to compensate for the usual disadvantages.

CB favouritism at its finest.

>>54028762
>no Croc Man
>no Nisse
And that's without the other good stuff like Hospitallers and Cutters.

At last, the full RPG rulebook is finally out. This isn't quite the final version, there's one last round of error-checking before it all goes to print.

>>54024974
>how do I calculate Morale and Security
Morale starts at a given number (usually zero), and you add circumstantial and terrain bonuses to it. You can also spend Momentum to get conditional Morale Soak. Same business with Security/Interference Soak, I believe. BTS, for example, is a flat bonus to Security Soak, while Interference from High-Sec zones is a conditional one.

>>54024673
>where can I find the cost to acquire a Gecko TAG?
Bottom of page 396 (at least in the new version 8.3). Cost is 14+4N. Restriction 4 (3 for Nomads), Tariff T4.

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>>54028342
I've got to agree with your points BMs are very hard to take out with both mimetism and the msv. It reduces two of the best tools to deal with links, high burst and vis mods.

To add to your list the gwailo link with special characters also works pretty well.

Nano screens give them a lot of maneuverability and Sheskiin is one of the best shooters in the game.

>>54029157
Gwailos are a lot of fun and pretty much carry the sectorial when it comes to firepower (especially if you don't use Sphinx), but I wouldn't put them up there with Bagh Mari.

>>54028818
Yeah, NCA is more like a Classic PanO+. Some archtypical PanO-units, links and ALEPH supplements.

>>54029157
>Gwailo
Shit what happened to Shasvastii? I used to see people talking about Noctifiers and Aswangs and shit all the time.

>>54029296
Nothing happened. That's the problem. Gwailos have always been the go-to choice, if you want more meat in shasvastiis. Asvangs and Nocts are solo-operators, but G:s are the best link, at least with pretty much no models for Calibans.

>>54028762
Idiot.

>>54029411

You got a better rebuttal then that?

>>54023629
>forgetting Gwailo
DELET THIS

>>54020910

Their wip 15 beats your resetting trooper. Your trooper is now isolated. What do?

>>54029525
Already posted in this thread.

>>54030431
Bring in the Bolts.

>>54028342
The points cost is really what does it for me. Moiras can evenly trade shots with BMs but you are looking at another 30ish points for that link.

As much as i love wildcats, mimetism/msv is a ghetto nisse and thats nothing to sneeze at. Also i will always be mad about the bullshit 2swc hrl

>>54030431
Fix it with an engineer if I really need to spend more than one order on person.

>>54025037
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>>54027421
I think they are easier, because the models look better for a lower skill level.

Just use zenith basecoating and thin paints.

>>54033560
Yeah, I've gotten so used to these that I couldn't make a decent 40k model when I tried. The same technics just didn't look good.

>>54031697
Yeah, BM are dangerous.

>>54021371
Whoops, this thread went on for so long and I forgot to say thanks.

Thank you.

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Clubmate brought the best thing ever today for our club-terrain. Completely scratchbuilt!

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>>54035689

>>54035689
'Bordell' means 'brothel' in german, it's just perfect

>>54032295
I honestly cant tell if thats about the proportions of the minis or the need for the marines needing to have been painted with thinned paint.

>>54032295
More like CB minis actually have decent proportions while 40k's minis have always been chunky and cartoony as fuck.

"Tomorrow...Meet the characters!" I wonder what that's supposed to mean with Aristeia!

>>54035689
Did he carve it by hand?

>>54036155
>>54036271
I was actually trying to make a "Thin your paints" post, but I guess the similarity of thinn and thicc confused people.

>>54037265
Probably a reveal of the characters in Aristeia!, duh. I doubt we'll see any actual rules though, just fluff.

>>54037627
With some tool, he still wants to fix the irregularities

>>54037632
> the similarity of thinn and thicc confused people

Yup confused me. Its a nice before/after as far my painting has gone. Marines are nearly straight out of the bottle paint while OIS stuff is about 75% thinner and glaze mediums. Fun fact; the alguacil has purple and gold hair and looks like a holographic/transition color some cars have.

What are your guys favourite ways of using line infantry links outside of the standard ARO and cheerleader garrison?
I just had a very successful game as ISS against vanilla CA, and my core link was Celestial Guard with 2 Spitfires, 2 Forward Observers and a Hacker. I've got a friend who often runs a 5 man link of Alguacile's with no SWC weapons at all and a bunch of specialists and it's still a pain to take on. What other less common tricks can you pull with line infantry links?

>>54039486
I normally play Haqq and SP. But I recently started playing USARF and almost all of my lists featured a Grunt Sniper team with 2-3 Snipers + 2-3 FOs, just as a defensive ARO team - which is something I never did in Haqq or SP. Also I love fielding a lone Grunt LGL Lieutenant just to move up a bit and start Spec Firing her LGL with her LT Order every turn. I've managed to ping off a few enemy troopers here and there, but she's also managed to force troopers to drop Suppression Fire bubbles in the midfield.

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Bumping with waifus

Is Aristeia! going to be the GenCon thing? I thought the Steel Phalanx box would be, but they already released that.

>>54043703
Seems like it. But a warcor on the forums said it's not this year's big release though.

I'm hoping for a MO army pack with all new minis

>>54039486
Acon Regulars make a great attack link. Sensor, spitfire, hacker, paramedic, then either another spitfire or a combi.

>>54044099
Have been considerimg this lately. Would make versatile, if squishy link. Too bad there is a limited number of resculpted regulars.

Huh. I could have sworn Molotok Airbirne ranger was already released. Better late than never.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k225ZzgijM

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>>54046520
HYPE

>>54046520
Where is Soldier, Tracer, Pharah, Widow, Zen, Hanzo, Roadhog and Junkrat?

>>54046520
First to say Parvati is best girl !

Gotta show some Aleph support

>>54046520
Noooo mini for cat waifu is horrible :(

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>>54046520

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>>54046590
Its strange because the art seems like revover ocelot, but the miniature is more like pic related

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>>54046619
or...

>>54046540
Where is Reaper?

>>54046647
Hexxer is obviously femReaper.
The real question is if Parvati is Mercy or Pharah.

>>54046520
Catgirl's mouth needs fixing, it's dumb and nothing as cute as the artwork. Slight disappoint. Spunky grin will make her look much better

>>54046632
>dat clipping

>>54046520
Artwork is pretty cute too

>>54046520
Suprised by the new Miyamoto and Lunah! I wonder if there will be a new Senor Massacre too.

>>54046647

Hassassin Ayar.

>>54046647
Umbra samaritan

>>54046520
nice models, a bit bummer that there are no yu jing heros present, but everything else looks solid.

>>54046805
Maybe pre-order exclusive?

>>54046520
So Miyamoto Musashi's got 4 sculpts now ... do I hear 5?

Now that puts Musashi ahead of Uxia McNeil, Joan of Arc, and the O-Yoroi pilit and Van Zant in terms of number of sculpts. Once again men do things better than women.

Hex is the coolest one on that roster. Overall though I'm surprised they're doing that many minis, presumably metal, for a Board game meant to branch out their brand. It doesn't particularly strike me as Board Game crowd friendly expecting those more casual folks to assemble such things.

>>54047053
How about Miyamoto? He's a merc like Lunah, but it's fairly obvious that they're the YJ and Haqq heroes.

>>54047119
Yeah, the fact that there's minis is kinda surprising to me too.
One possibility is that they'll be doing a "Special Edition" for all the people who want the models, and a normal version without models for people who don't want them?

Aristeia interview with BoW:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LDIAxon_LVk

Huh, the art for lunah makes her look like a shaved knauf. Better face for the mini this time too. Cat waifu face is pretty ehhh but the sculpt is overall nice. Maximus has a tikbalang chest piece and a jotum shield, dude is giganigga huge.

>that hexxer
Custodiers are best girl yet again!

>>54047320
Fuck why do they talk over Carlos?

>>54047320
Why right guy acts like Randy the Badass?

>>54047320
Card AND Dice Mechanics? Eww.

>Maximus is sponsored by Moto.Tronica. I like it.
>Wild bill was an actual person
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Wild_Bill%22_Hickok
>Aristeia! was first mostly bots fighting each other
>Parvarti has a Medikit
>8-ball as a contender. I remember that being mentioned being used in Aristeia!
>>54047456
Because they're unprofessional and rude

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Looks like Giraldez was painting Outrage, Aristeia! and the rune wars minis at roughly the same time.

>>54046520
Holy shit, Luna got a better sculp in here.

Fucking CB putting all the good sculp in non-main game box as always....

>>54047320
>Release towards end of the year

>>54047743
C'mon man, Armand and a couple others had a better general release. The Yu Jing HVT especially.

>>54047320
I'm hype now.

>>54020841
I love the fact that if you pace yourself this game is actually affordable unlike 40k if you are a poor motherfucker like me.

>>54047678
>rune wars minis
You mean FFG fantasy wargame?

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>>54047991
That's right
>>54047859
The real kicker is that you get hooked on multiple sectorials and factions

What the Aristea! range lacks so far is some good shiny grins or shouting faces. Everybody making composed faces is dumb in the atmosphere that Aristea is supposed to have. More exhilaration, more expression, come on, play with the crowd!

I can't come up with any, but does the infinity range have any grinning/ shooting models?

>>54047771
And Van Zant. General release is usually better.

>>54048244
>grinning/ shooting models
The Unidrons.

>>54047320
>>54046520
Could somebody post some excerpts/pics? I'm at work and can't watch the clip. Thanks in advance.

Big question for me regarding Aristea is: how much terrain?

I wondered if it would be a marketing vehicle for infinity, a game with small model count that would allow you to transition to the main game.
Am glad that that's only partly true, speaks for them being dedicated to make it it's own thing.

So it's not a mere low-cost entry hook. I hope terrain will play a role beyond a mere hexboard with a handful of pillars. Making Aristea arenas would kick ass.

>>54048213
I'm pretty much fucked in that regards when the Vedic, Tunguska and Varuna sectorials come out. I only play Tohaa at the moment. Funny thing if I pace myself with spending it's still far more affordable then 40k.

>>54047320
Fat fucking pig. Get some skilled moderators, charisma is a thing.

>>54048244
8-Ball seems to be the designated smiler, and the Cat-girl has a subtle smirk. I'd rather have composed faces on most dudes IMO

>I can't come up with any, but does the infinity range have any grinning/ shooting models?
A Shaolin monk is shouting or at least has his mouth open.
Daturazi also seem to be excited, kind of shouting. A Dog Warrior and a few antipodes are snarling. Bran Do Castro. One of the morlocks. Clipsos and Kamael shouts.

Scarface smiles. Symbiomates smile. One of the Krakots kind of smiles. Gogo Marlene smiles. Not sure about the Dozer A-K. LE Achilles is shouting Look ma, a monkey head. One of the Post humans smile. Ajax shouts. Tarik Mansuri shouts. PanO support packs have visible confusion and cries for help on their low WIP. A few of the bootleg models are mildly smiling. That's about all that comes to mind for me, in no particular order.

So how many merc sculpts has CB released now with no blackjack nexus or locust? This nust be like 14 now right?

>>54047388
>the art for lunah makes her look like a shaved knauf
>inb4 her "mysterious backstory" is she's also a Knauf clone

>>54048513
At least the Nexus has a dossier now. I'd expect it about November-ish the latest.

Also, don't forget about Andromeda. She's missing a sculpt too. It does sadly seem that no one actually wants her, as she's by far the least complained about missing model.

Besides, they want to "surprise us" whatever that may mean. But Yeah, 6 outrage characters, Lunah, Knauf, Miyamoto about three times, Wild Bill, 8-Ball, Hexxer, Gata, Maximus, Dozer Hacker, and the Yuan Yuans would make about 17.

At least Blackjacks can have Muslim Infiltrators placeholding, the Locust is very open for easy conversions, and the Shikami is an easy proxy between Domaru, Hac Tao, and Miyamoto. Nexus does seem a bit strange to have missing for so long given that it's a great Lt option, almost one of the core of Onyx.

>>54048577
Her defect was that they're missing the Y-Chromosome so they had to make do with two X's.

>>54047678
>"They said I could become anything..."
>"So I become Tikbalang."

>>54048675
I'm Tikbalang-kin, my preferred pronouns are It, the T.A.G., and your Majesty. Eduardo is a major inspiration for me. Such a great role model. #ToniMacayenaIsAlive. Holds up Spork Shield.

>>54048674
>Nexus dossier
Where?

Andromeda is so meh it hurts. I guess she could act as a "discount" skirmisher in ASS, but her hyge silhouette doesn't help.

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>>54048769
Here you go

>>54048813
He, or rather it, is pretty hot...
My dreams of a sexy unidrons & variants is looking even more viable.

>>54048813
Thanks!

though we've haf dome long breaks between dossiers and models in the past, like Hunzaqt and Daferzen

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>>54047320
Got hold of a leak from the Aristeia.

>>54048479
The BOW guys have some charisma and a lot of enthusiasm, but lack any ranks in the "Talkshow" skill.

By comparison, the Miniwargaming guy is uncharismatic even compared to the stuff on the table, AND has shitty opinions.

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>>54049208
Man, some of these Russian miniature makers do impressive stuff, even as rip-offs. I still remember some Eldar bikes that were done rather beautifully.

I personally wouldn't mind a deployable turret remote in the game, even if players might find it boring.

>>54049072
Yeah, but I do recall hearing how the Nexus is set to released with the new Spec-Ops line sometime this year unlike the BlackJack which was confirmed to not be designed this year at all.

>>54048712
In all ways except physical I am a Tactical Armored Gear

>gets possessed

>>54047123
I do not class japs as true yu jing. Only people from china and korean females count as true imperials.

>>54049986
>gets YJ models
>complain, because they're not right ones
You ARE a Yu Jing player!

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>>54049338
Make it cat-shaped and give it to Nomads.

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>>54048450
Type: TANK
Abilities: JOTUM’S SHIELD / GET BEHIND ME! / LIGHT OF JUSTICE
Favorite Food: Lox
" THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PAIN, ONLY VICTORY. "
He puts the 'A' in Aristeia! The epitome and defender of the grand values that define this sport, a natural-born leader, protector of his companions, and scourge of his opponents, Maximus' resplendent smile and shield-bearing silhouette fan the flames of passion in the hearts of sports fans across the Human Sphere.

>>54049208
>>54049338

source my dudes?

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>>54050328
Type: CONTROLLER
Abilities: GOTCHA! / VADE RETRO
Favorite Food: Mushroom Pirozhki
" EXITUS ACTA PROBAT "
The 'Nomad Witch' has worked hard for that moniker. Whenever she's in the arena, everyone else is at risk of becoming an unwitting pawn or a mindless puppet. With a pull of her string, a foe flies off the scoring zone like a broken doll; with a curt order, a friend advances an agenda only hEXx3r truly understands.

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>>54050414
Type: CONTROLLER
Abilities: EAT MY FA JING! / BE WATER, DUDE
Favorite food: Pork and Bamboo Shoot Stir Fry
" YOU KNOW ME; I SEE AN OPENING, I GOTTA PLAY BALL. "
Showmanship made (panda) flesh, a poet in the medium of randomness, 'Baller' crashes the HexaDome like he crashes a party: unavoidably and unpredictably. He rolls like a powerful opening break, only this ball is calling all the shots. 8-Ball is the pain in any team manager's ass and the life of every party worthy of that name.

>>54050328
That's a neat design. Unusual for Infinity, too, what with its shield and no weapons. Curious about the rules, hopefully it won't be just more ARM.

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>>54050471
Gata
Type: SCORER
Abilities: MISDIRECTION / FREERUN / FELINE REFLEXES
Favorite Food: Oniwaban Sushi Roll
" THERE'S NO SPEED LIMIT ON THE WAY TO THE TOP! "
The newest addition to the star-studded halls of Aristeia! is so fast she seems to be everywhere at once, and every camera lens works double to keep up with her, both inside and outside the HexaDome. Gata's upbeat, vibrant personality makes her merchandise fly off the shelves as quickly as she flies over her opponent's heads.

>>54050328
Bulky shield dude seems like a good concept, and the design delivers; though I have no idea how they'll stat him.

>>54050414
Great sculpt, the design of the clothes is nothing short of amazing.

>>54050471
I...guess they can't all be winners?

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>>54050512
Major Lunah
Type: RANGED
Abilities: CALLED SHOT / SUPPRESSIVE
FIRE / MARKSMANSHIP / VETERAN SNIPER
Favorite Food: Tahdig
" YOU CAN RUN, BUT YOU CAN’T HIDE. "
As deliberate and lethal as the venomous snakes of her home planet, Major Lunah surrenders the spotlight only up until the moment she decides to make the kill. Her military rank is more than a marketing scheme; she has served her nation in some of the deadliest theatres of operation in the Human Sphere. Now, she's come to bring some much-needed discipline to the world of show biz.

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>>54050589
Parvarti
Type: SUPPORT
Abilities: SUBMACHINE GUNS AKIMBO / RESET / MEDIKIT
Favorite Food: The lies/love of ALEPH
" TACTICAL ANALYSIS COMPLETE. CONFIDENCE OF VICTORY AT 97.83%. "
She's indefatigably, maximally devoted to her team. If there is a limit to her capacity for self-improvement, we have yet to see a sign of it. She will heal, repair, assess, fight, and even score if necessary. Parvati performs all her roles so dependably that she's been a staple of the Interplanetary Aristeia! Team Managers Association's All-Star team for twenty years straight, and still going strong.

>>54050512
>name is cat
>abilities are cat-themed
>has cat clothes and trinkets
>is a catgirl
I guess having a strong brand identity is important in Aristeia.
That said, the dynamic pose is excellent.

>>54050589
That's a far cry from the shitty standalone release.

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>>54050512
Gata lewds when?

Right about NOW http://i.imgur.com/JJQSIyu.png

>>54050574
>not liking the bara panda

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>>54050631
Type: RANGED
Abilities: TWIN PISTOLS / GUNSLINGER / DEAD MAN’S HAND
Favorite Food: Spaghetti and Meatballs with Marinara sauce and a side of Sourdough bread
" I'VE DANCED WITH THE REAPER MORE'N A FEW TIMES MYSELF. NOW SHE DANCES TO MY TUNE. "
If Wild Bill is in the mix, you know there's a wager going on. The higher the risk, the sweeter his inevitable reward. A bona fide card shark and unerring gunslinger, this mysterious, anachronistic gentleman fixated on the march of time is this season's leading contender to the title of Bahadur. If you want to win big, go ahead and bet against him, but be aware: so far he hasn't lost a gamble.

>>54050574
Don't be mean to Jack Black.

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>>54050693
Miyamoto Mushashi
Type: COMBAT
Abilities: KEN NO SEN / KAZE TACHINU
Favorite Food: Demi-Katsu
" KNOW YOUR ENEMY; KNOW THEIR BLADE. "
If you were to synthesize pure combat prowess, the formula would have to contain the mind of the most renowned fighter in history, plus the most advanced artificial body ever designed. Luckily for us, Aristeia! has already gone to the trouble of manufacturing this volatile concoction, and all that's left for us is to kick back and enjoy the spectacle that is Miyamoto Mushashi.

Why did they make his swords mostly black this time? they still have blue and red edges

>>54050403
click on the little triangle next to the message number and select image search, like the rest of us did.

>>54050631
Not sure about that color choice, but the design is nice. Also, I have no idea what she's supposed to be. Robot?

>>54050693
Perfection.

>>54046520
Parvati and Hexxer look amazing.

>>54050693
>You're pretty good.

>>54050717
A third Mushashi model was certainly needed, right?

>>54050761
>[hand gestures]

>>54050779
>third

>>54050693
I need that mini, preferrably yesterday.

>>54050727
on one hand, thanks for telling me to just "look it up," bro...

on the other...... holy shit I am a fucking pleb because I didn't know you could do that. thanks anon!

>>54050849
Shit, you are right. My bad. That's even worse.

>>54050890
No problem. Ambivalent assistance is a specialty.

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>>54050403
I ripped these straight from the website, starting with Maximus
https://aristeiathegame.com/maximus

>>54050499
If the unknown range is any point of reference, it's going to be +3 ARM and CH:Mimetism in Infinity Game Terms, given how bulky he already is this guy could easily be a total beast with ARM 6, maybe even 7 in Infinity, how that translates to Aristeia terms I wouldn't know. Best wait until a demo game for that
>>54050574
>can't all be winners
That's just unnecessarily mean.
>>54050636
Don't forget that Bostria mentioned a clothes line. The branding is very real.
>>54050654
Feel appreciated as always.
>>54050681
IKR?
>>54050707
Infinity Pandaren confirmed
>>54050747
She's an Aleph aspect. Was first thrown off by how green she is, making me think she was Tohaa for a second. But they talked about how Aristeia was a bunch of androids fighting at first before humans came in.

>>54050779
They need to give this guy Holo Level 2 ASAP.

>>54050890
Don't worry, I would have given you the source after I was done posting them. there's a bunch of new info from the official site and I decided to dump it from there. But yeah, you can reverse search images. Just be glad you don't have to do with Tineye anymore, as we live in the future!

Alternatively, as you may not know it, you can paste image URLs into the file name when you're choosing a file to attach to a post on 4chan and it'll upload it like I did here.

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Aristea could always use more heroes!

>>54050693
I would like to point out that this guy is shooting from his side like a proper duelist, overall reducing the size of the target if you so try to shoot back. Unlike a certain McCree over here
>>54051111
Nice Quads

So what about that rumor of these models being plastic? I don't believe it.

>>54051111
is that cyborg ninja a conversion or an actual miniature? D'ya know where I can score one if he's legit?

>>54049517
>unlike the BlackJack which was confirmed to not be designed this year at all.
Its past that point now, dossier to be revealed at GenCon

The minis are all pretty good IMO. Gata is probably the worst, but still not a bad model. Hexxer looks really good, definitely a proxy in any Nomad list I run.

>>54051111
>Season 2 Aristeia expansion adds 8 new fighters
>Try hard edgelord Druze character
It's everything I wanted and more

>>54051111
I feel like all the declared Aristeia heroes are literally just two Overwatch characters fused together.

>>54051908
Would you rather it be Battleborn?

>>54052800
I'd rather they not rip off yet another shitty tf2 clone.

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>>54051510
Not him but taleofwar I believe made them.
Another Season two Aristeia character

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>>54053192
It's not like he doesn't have a pre-established presence.

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>>54053611
oh yeah I forgot about him.
In this case, these are also missing

Some of these can make for pretty legit proxies. Hexxer is obviously a custodier but can double up as kusanagi with a quick weapon attachment. Also decent for non human factions too.

Gata looks like an interventor, could even look good as a moran. Also daktari i guess.

Parvati can sub in easy as a garuda or ekdromoi. Weapon accurate proxy too.

Bill is the dandiest hardcase ill ever see.

Kungfu panda can sub in for a werewolf and i got nothing for the man who became a tag.

Stats for catgirl should be interesting as she is supposed to be fast and mushashi is 6-4. Would she be similar with kinematika and hyperdynamics perhaps?

>>54053820
>Bill is the dandiest hardcase ill ever see.
>Not the Lonesome Unknown Ranger.

What do Onyx lists look like nowadays? I was kinda hyped when it first came out but I never followed up.

>>54053850
You have changed my opinion, thanks.

>>54053902
Unidrons everywhere.

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>>54053934
<3

That's what I'll be using him as anyway. Painted in dapper reds and browns of course.

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we're all stand-ins now

>>54053792
what'sthe model for widow?

>>54053820
She could be bike-fast.

>>54053902
I've faced them a few times. Every time It's that Plasma Sniper TAG (Overdron I think was its name), Dr. Worm, the Q-Drone, AI Beacons, and a core link of the Dogged REM fireteam (Unidrons now that the other guy named it). Various players, inevitably those same units, even in the occassional Vanilla list I saw. Usually often saw the Umbra Samaritan AHD but not always. Frankly don't remember the rest.
>>54054446
What about Movement 8-2 like the Su-Jian cat mode? It would fit with the cat theme

>>54053902
Onyx is fun to play, having a fire team harris of Xedrons is way too fun.

>>54051908
I'm really not seeing it.

Who is Hexxer? Who is Gata? Who is Lunah? Who is Musashi? Who is Bola?

>>54054316
Based on wonky physics I'd say it's a scratchbuild with Mk2 Proxy posthuman as a base.

>>54055247
>lunah
ana + widow
>gata
sombra + genji
>pandaren
zenyatta + reinhart
> hexxer
african robowoman + symmetra

>>54051908
I'd wager that has more to do with the Overwatch cast being a series of fairly predictable archetypes.

Not that following known archetypes is necessarily a bad thing, but something being similar to Overwatch when Overwatch doesn't break much new ground isn't surprising.

If we want to point fingers, Winston is a ripoff off every non-evil monkey in Planet of the Apes, or perhaps Gorilla Grodd.

>>54055370
soldier's rifle is a ripoff of every other assault rifle ever
rein's hammer is a ripoff of every other hammer
totally unoriginal, not cool

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Saw this. I feel physically sick.

>>54055370
Winston is literally stolen wholesale from AT-43.

Blizzdrones don't consume other forms of media so they eat up carbon copies and think they're original.

>>54055410
You forget that most media is just a copy, example: Warhammer with foundation (and foundation is just a copy)

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Man, sure is summer.

It's almost like blizzard and infinity/40k have been ripping off of each other for a while now.

>>54055458
*Foundation, Dune, Star Wars and some 2000 AD comics

>>54055458
>Most media
Not really. Just the creatively inept more or less.

And Warhammer started as a hodge podge of those settings because GW used to make licensed miniatures for most of those franchises. Like the Judge Dredd game was originally a GW product for example. So why not make a setting that incorporates miniatures and an aesthetic you're already making minis for.

Blizzard is a place where good ideas go to die these days.

>>54055408
>not AlephFunctionaryImpersonatesAHighClassWoman.png

>>54055360
>ana + widow

...Because she's a sniper? Dude, don't be retarded.

>sombra + genji

She looks literally nothing like either of them. She's not a ninja or a cyborg or a hacker, her kit seems to be more about speed and misdirection.

>zenyatta + reinhart

You could have at least said the fat animal-ish guy from Overwatch. Dude, if simply being big makes you the same as a giant German guy in power armor with a giant forcefield, I guess all big characters are Reinhardt.

>african robowoman + symmetra

Again, she looks nothing like either of them. African robowoman is a fucking centaur with a giant machinegun, and the only thing Hexxer has in common with Symmtra is flowing clothes - not even the same kind of flowing clothes.

You've let your hateboner for Overwatch get too strong, to the point where you're seeing it everywhere.

>>54055609
Okay so >>54055360 is not me and I also really like Overwatch, I don't have a problem with Overwatch-derivative stuff. I didn't mean it harshly.

But in your post >>54055247 here I would say:

>Hexxer
Reaper + Sombra

>Gata
D.Va + Lucio

>Lunah
Ana + younger Ana

>Musashi
Hanzo + Genji (this one, I admit, is retarded)

>Bola
Roadhog + Zenyatta

>>54053081
This

This is a pretty dumb question but, does placing a mine cancel Camo/Impersonation? Rules say you can use any short movement skill that doesn't require a roll, but I don't think placing a mine counts as short movement.

>>54056749
Yeah, any action other than moving or idling will reveal you

>>54055732
because any fat+chinese character must be a fusion of a fat and a chinese character? i think it only looks that way if you squint really hard, and want to believe

>>54055732
>Reaper + Sombra

I dunno man, she doesn't really look like either of them at all. The only thing she has in common with them is being a hacker, and I guess white mask for Reaper, but that's just the standard Custodian look. And Custodians are hackers.

>D.Va + Lucio

Really? I mean, what do they have in common but the most superficial stuff? Is 'fast and cute' really enough to say this character is a copypasta of a Brazilian rave skater and an Eva homage mech pilot?

>Roadhog + Zenyatta

This is the one I can kinda see, but still, fat buddha type dudes are really goddamn common.

>overwatch fags coming out of the woodwork
>nuh-uh Y looks like X!
jfc

>people trying this hard to make 8-Ball an Overwatch character
Guys... He's just Kung-Fu Panda with a Pacific Islander/Hawaiian twist. Like the guy liked both KFP and Moana and wanted to make something that mixed them.
And Wild Bill is literally a cowboy. It's not like Blizzard invented cowboys.
Mushashi has been a thing in Infinity for years before Blizzard announced Overwatch. There's nothing particular about a cyber samurai.
The others, yeah, maybe, especially the robot angel girl. But come on.

>>54057366
Yeah, both games are all about derivative characters inspired by popular characters/aesthetics. Really shouldn't be a big deal

Or are we ignoring the homages to ghost in the shell, XMen, anime in general, etc...

And every objective based shooter is a TF2 clone like every FPS is a doom clone.

>>54055360
Soooo stupid.

40kfag here. 8e is great and all but I thought I'd pop over here and see how you fellows are doing.

What makes Infinity better than 40k? Can anyone with 40k 7e/8e and Infinity experience tell me why I should start playing Infinity?

>>54058020
>every objective based shooter is a TF2 clone like every FPS is a doom clone.
Bad argument based on having a poor understanding of the games and the principles behind them. I would guess you're 18-23 based on that faulty logic.

>>54058569
>Better.
Full stop. Subjective.
It's different.
Infinity is small scale. So there's more focus on individual soldiers. Each guy can have different special abilities because at the end of the day there's still 10-15 of them (about how many different units/wargear combos you run in a 40k game).
Furthermore because of the emphasis on a small scale "characterized" wargame you can make the game feel very dynamic with the combination of options that a smaller game allows. The active turn system makes both players feel involved during both their turns because you're look for opportunities to get those AROs or what the best course of reaction could be come your turn.
On top of all that the order system let's you play with the models you like. For example if you take your badass super character heavy infantry, he doesn't move once and shoot once. He can go Ham and just eat orders until he dies or kills everything in an orgy of wrrry's and such.

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>>54042435

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>>54058749

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:3

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>>54058815

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>>54058843

>>54058569
Typically low model count, it simulates a squad based firefight rather than a giant warzone.

Reactive orders means people on both sides are shooting at each other nonstop(or trying to dodge shots).

Super proxy friendly communities, thus super cheap to get started(Like $100 for a tournament list). No compulsory large expensive models either, though they exist(but are still pretty cheap)

All this means that infinity is a great fall back game, no need for direct competition. Think like guild ball, malifaux, LCGs, etc. You can easily do 40k and Infinity.

Rules are free, official app to build armies is free and has unit specific rule/chart links to cut down on rule lookups, super easy to try a game with friends using 40k minis as proxies.

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>>54058866

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>>54058888

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>>54058902

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>>54058922

>>54058724
So a better comparison would be Necromunda to Infinity? I like how that order system sounds, it seems to me that it is very difficult to predict what your opponent will do in a system like that because of the amount of options it gives players.
>>54058876
Sounds great, I have friends who are interested in miniature gaming but don't want to get into 40k because of the time/cost involved in getting an army big enough to be fun.

Thanks for the advice, both of you. I will definitely look more into the rules and find models I like. I had a look at the official site before but it seemed to me that as a model gallery it is somewhat lacking. Are there any third party sites with good pictures of the models so I can get a better idea of how the different factions look?

>>54058953
https://human-sphere.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

for minis. Might be hard to navigate for a newcomer but it does have all the fluff and current/limited models listed with pics.

I love infinity but I am so fucking turned off by aristeia. I mean. a trailer to annouce the game, followed by another trailer about another trailer to annouce the characters are going to be talked about in a beasts of war video.... and we still don't really know what the fuck the game is. this shit reminds me of the Nemesis kickstarter. like it's alright but what the fuck is really going on?

>>54058569
It's different in many ways, enough to make this a question not right to answer, but I'll bite.

It's a smaller scale where the models are better looking on average 1v1 and you feel like your individuals matter. By the mechanics of the Skirmish game it's not just your individuals but the actions you take as well (as the way you spend your orders matter in the way you kill, set defences, and take objectives). With the d20 mechanics needing highs and lows averages skew to give you unexpected results and other surprises.

40k, to me at least, feels funnest when it's either in a small scale (like Killteam) with a sarge and his close brothers in arms or a large apocalyptic battle with the collassals of the future and masses of bodies dying in a red flood of explosions and firepower. A game that really emphasizes your struggle in a warring galaxy much bigger than yourself. In the 1850-2k point tournament format it just didn't do it for my satisfyingly because it felt more like a game of rock, paper, scissors between net-listed factions and a dice rolling checking to confirm the results you just about expected at the beginning. Sure dice occasionally skewed things on a Ld test or some repeated 1's or 6's but even then a single unit of the ten or so dudes you so meticulously painted never felt like they made much of an impact in the scheme of things. Games between different factions just feel like one overruning the other as the dice were being thrown down. The objectives usually remain a combination of killing dudes and parking dudes somewhere keeping enemies of your space.

Meanwhile Infinity has a bit more varied missions, where limits on who can achieve objectives, through what manner, and what different actions you take feel like it matters. There are more secrets with Airborne units and hidden units keep you guessing on what your opponent has in store. More rules to learn, but it's satisfying when you use 'em. Also free army builder.

>>54059118
Its just supposed to heat up the hype train m8, forcefeeding anyone about everything on day 1 doesn't seems to be a great idea.

so what is the most op faction, i am looking to win against very competitive people

>>54059118
A product typically has different focus points that a manufacturer would like the customer to know about.

So first we have a general product announcement. Then an annoucement of when+where more information will be released. Then at that place/time they'll talk about the main points, separately - in this case the miniatures are a significant selling point, so deserve a distinct discussion. Then what should follow is covering any other secondary important points, the the primary product is saved for last as the big reveal.

This has been standard marketing for decades. CB is actually doing it right, but a lot of people are burnt out from other companies doing it wrong - week after week of new teaser trailers, reveals broken up for non points over too long a period(here's our standard packaging - it has a neat picture and is crappy thin cardboard - see you next week folks!), and so on.

>>54061512
Haqq and Tohaa. You have to be good to use Tohaa though so just use haqq and spam Ghazi.

Ghazi are pretty much a stupidly priced I win button. You can take max AVA of them and still take everything else you want too.

>>54055732
>>Gata
>D.Va + Lucio
Imo, but she is more like tracer+lucio/sombra

Is it me or has Angel's painting of the eyes been bad on outrage and aristea? Some of the characters have really weird expressions because of eyes looking really off.

>>54061602

The Ghazi are that good? I never hear anyone talk about them.

>>54062161
It's his painting in general not just the eyes.

I think he has just been overworked. He's been doing all the Rune Wars stuff for FFG recently on top of the Outrage gang and the Aristeia cast.
Don't forget that's on top of commissions and other private work+busts he's doing for that other company.

He seems a bit stressed.
If you want to really read into it and go full conspiracy style he just posted the other day about spilling a whole thing of paint on himself, and he usually only fumbles stuff like that when he's worn out as fuck (usually after a string of seminars/cons).

>>54062481
It's a five point emarat with smoke.

>>54061602
I wish taking Ghazi was a guaranteed win. But I don't always win.

It's like good players know how to handle themselves around them.

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>>54062585
>>54062605
Ghazi just like any other warband live and die on the board setup. There's really no denying ghazi are the best irregular warband-equivalent in the game, since they have phys12 smoke, wip 15 jammer, e/marut on top of chain rifles and dogged.

Saying they are an auto win button or haqq is an op faction solely because of them is simply ignorant. If you look at numbers in tournaments Haqq isn't over-preforming.

>>54062682
I'm not the guy forcing the Ghazi meme, but it is a pretty sweet unit. Horde mode Haqq is definitely one of the better armies though.
I'd love to see the aggregate tournament results.

>>54061512
Is this the same bait again?
None, factions are pretty well balanced. There's no triptide or Eldar D-weapons jetbikes type lists, if you don't know tactics you're gonna lose.
That said Tohaa and ALEPH are fairly forgiving because of their unique toughness and special abilities.

>>54063811

On that note, I really enjoy the aesthetic and flavor of the Steel Phalanx but it is disappointing to see how same-y the lists are.

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>>54058569
It's deadliness is very nice. You're almost never at a point where shooting each other gets grindy, like say 2 bolter marine squads firing at each other without much happening (don't know 8th though). Under the right circumstances, an Uzi can still be dangerous against the biggest models.

Singular units can have much more oomph and impact on the game, with more way more flexible options to act. Crawl along the floor behind cover. Stand up and run up the stairs. Jump over to the other building. Run a bit and dodge incoming fire/ shoot back at incoming fire while running. Made it alive to that supreme firing position? Then switch to another closeby unit with smoke grenades, and try to chuck one to block line of sight between the enemy and your other guy. Your other guy doesn't mind, he's got a sniper rifle and special visor equipment which sees right through smoke at the enemy, who can't draw LoS in return.

A sniper feels like a sniper. Bad at close ranges, a killer to all on long ranges. A lot of weapons and equipment feel great. Lay mines. Troopers with Holoprojector lvl2 run around in tow with two distracting holograms of themselves, and only you know who the real one is, turning shooting into a shell game. Hackers gonna hack power armoured elite troopers into immobility. Medics trying to revive unconscious troopers while engineers try to fix heavy weapon drones from having been hit with adhesive glue guns or emp munitions.

Oh shit, a thermooptic camouflage unit is revealing at a bad spot, having hid there before the beginning of the game. I got this special unit with super-climb though, so I use it to race up that office building's facade, trying to get a shot at the bastard while clinging to the wall.

cont.

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>>54058569
>>54064185
cont.

Relatively for the tabletop scene, entrance is cheap. Good army is cheap. Buying a single blister, more realistically several blisters or a box, can potentially bring new experiences and playstyles to the table. For cheap. Proxying is relatively common, so even more flexibility there.

The support is great. Rules are all free, the pretty app with its bunch of at first overwhelming functions is free.

The setting and rule system allows for atmospheric tables in dense near- to far- future environments that are different to 40k's more epic apocalyptic tendencies.

I played Warhammer 40k for 15 years. Have not left it for dead or anything, but right now and for the foreseeable future, I play this game, Infinity. It's the shit.

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>>54064185
>>54064203
I should round out all this high praise with some criticism to stay realistic.

There is a learning curve. The first games against experienced players WILL be lost, unless they handicap themselves for your benefit. After learning the core rules, the quantity of equipment and accompanying special rules can be overwhelming at first. I suggest learning by playing, best with pleasant players rather than with WAAC curbstompers.

The selection of weapons and equipment can seem very same-ish across factions at first. The distinctions lie in the combinations of special skills and equipment available to certain troops. It's subtle, but differences are there. The payoff is a way WAY more balanced gameplay than (pre 8th?) 40k. There's no established recurring killer built for anything, switching through units and different lists is a given. Only one (sub-) faction comes to my mind where I would say that it's more easier and beginner-friendly to play than the rest, though still manageable for opponents (ALEPH SSS).

Crits are criticized by some players as being to random and influential on the game. I haven't thought much about that, I haven't reached that level of competitive play yet, am more a beer and pretzels guy.

The design of the factions modelwise can seem a bit same-ish. Got a bit better for me after learning the design subtleties through painting. Some fantastic sculpts make up for it imo.

You're going to have to prepare a shitton of game markers (little chips about the size of a base or smaller, noting states like 'unconscious' or 'camouflage') in the long run, if you don't want to borrow them from friends all the time. There are common simple methods to make them for cheap, can be a hassle at the beginning. Or but them. Buying them all poses some real extra-costs, though realistically you buy only the most common ones, and craft the rest yourself.

That's all I can come up with now.

>>54061602

>Have to be good to use Tohaa

Top fucking kek. They're the "no hard choices to make" faction with the symbiomates, CoC, multiple fireteams, and cheap TO specialists. Oh yeah, and your HI has as many wounds as a tag.

Tohaa are fucking easymode.

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>>54064456
Ah maybe one last thing before I shut up. I don't think that there's a pre-8th Tyranid Pyrovore lvl of useless unit, but maybe two to three handfuls of units that are somewhat less efficient than the rest, across the whole range. Some questionable point costs. Most can be made to work by playing better. Some you will generally want to leave at home and instead pick another comparable unit, but you can still proxy with your preferred model, so that's that.

>>54050032
Eh, I can see where he's coming from. Miyamoto isn't actually affiliated with Yu Jing at all, he's an Aleph thing that became a mercenary. I'd be happy with a Haramaki or something, they're at least Yu Jing citizens.

>>54050041
Oh fuck, I forgot about that game. The one actually fun MOBA and it died pretty much immediately. RIP

>>54062676
>come on, one more reroll, I have to pass it eventually

>>54062676
I have only just realised how great a Trauma Doc themed Surgeon Simulator DLC would be.

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She finally came.

Just needs to be properly cleaned and re-based since she is pre-owned. And fix a small issue with the BENEDICTA stamping on the sword.

The new in blister one from Spain should be here in a few weeks.

>>54065144
Swordarm seems a little bent/misaligned

>>54065210
I think he just posed the head differently which might make it look that way. There doesn't seem to be any serious issues with it.

Just a few bits of flash, a mold line or two I'll need to scrape, and a tiny spec of greenstuff to fix the sword which looks like an issue from straight out of the mold.

>>54020870

Just got into Haqqislam and I don't think I'll ever get Ghazi cuz I don't like their model as much.

That being said, I read what that fucker does and goddamn is he some horseshit.

>FUCK YOU ISOLATED
>FUCK YOU EMP
>FUCK YOU SMOKE GRENADE
>FUCK YOU I'M PRONE
>FUCK YOU I'M 5 POINTS

The fact the crazy bastard might actually kill something is icing on the cake.

Can you put Very Impetuous soldiers into prone so they don't run forward as fast as they normally do?

>>54065531

Nope. They have to move as far as possible, along the most direct line possible. Including taking headers off of buildings to get to the enemy.

>>54065958
Thank you for clarification <3

>>54055473
>It's almost like blizzard and infinity/40k have been ripping off of each other for a while now.

Zerg = Tyranids
WoW Pandaria = Kung Fu Panda
Terran = Spess Muhreens
Ko Dali = Queen of Blades
Revolver Ocetlot = Wild Bill

>>54064575
That sounds pretty awesome. I had a look at the units and I really like the looks of nomad gecko and mobile barista (?) heavy infantry. I'll probably start out w/ the nomad & corregidor starters and fill in the gaps as needed.

>>54066201
Revolver Ocetlot?

>>54066518
Revolver "Revolver Ocelot" Ocelot

>>54066201
>Zerg = Tyranids
Wrong

>>54066815
>Zerg =/= Tyranids
Wrong

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>>54066201
>>54066815
>>54066910
It's almost as if they both are inspired by a common ancestor that's been influencing military science fiction since the 1950's.

Kinda of an unrelated noob question about the fluff of the setting: when a dogface ISN'T in Dog Warrior mode, do they look basically human (hairier etc. but still basically human) or are they full furry at all times?

>>54066989
Former

>>54067067
Why all the implied prejudice then?

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>>54066989
They look human. For all intents and purposes they're basically generic Werewolves with a sci-fi excuse.

Some become Full furry all the time, like McMurrough, but I think that's an exception rather than the rule, and McMurrough's stuck in wolf form for unknown reasons

>>54067077
Would you be willing to hire an employee who for all you know might turn into a fucking werewolf and maul everyone if someone spills hot coffee on their pants?

>>54067138
They also have lower intelligence if memory serves

>>54067077
They turn into big wolf monsters and tend to have anger management issues. Also they resemble the aliens that Ariadna has been at war with for decades, which doesn't help matters.

Hi all. Me and my friends are thinking of starting. We like the smaller, squad based gameplay and how colourful the setting itself is.

As for factions, we're all still musing over who to go. I'm hoping they're all roughly balanced. With that in mind, how does the usual game of infinity go? Are you screwed if you find out your fireteam are against a group of TAGs?

Is the gameplay smooth? Seems so from the starter rules I've read. How is the overall balance?

>>54067164
According to the recent RPG, no (or at least by such a tiny degree it's not worth representing mechanically, so at most assuming "almost no"). The "turn into werewolf and eat the department manager" though is a legitimate concern.

Anyone has any tips on how to paint yu jing. I tried 5 differrent color combinations and it always ends up looking bad, and when I mean bad I mean bad by my standards which are already realy low. It feels as if I just leaving the models based couted in white would be a much better idea.

>>54067243
I just read this amazing post.
>>54064185
>>54064203
>>54064456

Very informative, thank you!

>>54067182
*My friends and I

There aren't really groups of TAGs beyond maybe two smaller ones, and usually between a TAG and a fireteam with a ML, the ML wins if it can beat the TAG at a long range F2F. TAG can also win if it shoots them one or two at a time from a range beyond the usual combi-rifle.

Usually there are no list hard counters unless you or your opponent really went for a gimmick list, like if you field an eight ninja list and I happend to have a sensor bot and some strong Multi-spectral visor to reveal and shoot them without MODs.

Gameplay's smooth once you get like 10 under your belt and no longer need to look up rules and equipment as often. Rules are tight, lots of things you can do, and most missions have objectives depending a bit on who you bring. Not usually just standing somewhere to control it.

Overall balance is pretty good, about the best interfaction balance I've seen between big wargames, mostly on the account of that just about everyone can field things with the same or similar roles.

The only faction that is really left behind and obviously worse than the others is one sub-faction of a faction which is the Shasvasti, where the link teams outside of Gwailos aren't really worth it and the troops are kind of trick based so you're generally better fielding a Shasvasti heavy Generic Combined army list to have more tactical flexibility.

That being said they still have some great units, like the Sphinx, and a core link team that can potentially have what's tied for the highest BS in the game with a special character who can join them, and they bring their cover with them with a nano-screen.
>>54067243
For the orange brown, I usually do a small coat of light pink before the orange, because the pink gives a better coverage for the orange to be over. That is the #1 tip I've found useful for painting Yu Jing

Otherwise what I do is basecoat orange brown, shade with watered down cavalry brown, highlight with Scrofulous brown up to white

>>54067182
Ironically, the group of TAGs should be screwed if it goes against your fireteam. I'll explain in a moment.

The overall balance is great. Ofc you might build lists that simply won't work well, but that will not happen a lot to you after you had a couple of games and got more advice from experienced gamers.

You're overall really free in trying and combining things, with good chances that it will work out. Some lists are screwed against others, but only if you forget to cover your weak points. In time, you would f.e. learn that if you field a lot of power armoured infantry, that you should bring at least some defence against hackers, cause those dudes can be vulnerable against hacking shenanigans. There aren't a lot of cookie cutter builds or anything, just a lot of smaller combinations that synergize well.

I'd like to point out the faction sub-forums in the official infinity forum. They usually have stickied threads unit-to-unit analysis. It's a great first start to get a rough overview and orientation on your factions units. The better written threads analyse with pro's and con's and advice how to use them.

Your example above is a bit special, since it can actually be a bit tough to use TAGs, it needs some experience and the right support. You rarely face a group of TAGs, though I've occasionally seen 2 in a list. They just eat a lot into the points, so that it's hard to create a good support team with the rest of the points, and limits the options for bringing a plan B if the big guys should go up in smoke.

>>54067496
>>54067837
That's reassuring to hear! I personally like diversity and there is a powergamer in our group. (IG parking lot), so I'm glad that there isn't really a set in stone leafblower type faction or list.

Thanks again for the advice.

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>>54067243
I think I have a pretty solid YJ yellow. I made a how to with color references, towards the bottom, here:

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/31283-the-dragon-stirs-imperial-service-in-the-making-wuming-in-action/?page=2

What's a good way to start YuJing? I really like the look of the Imperial Service but I dunno if that's a good route.

>>54068153
Red veil starter box
If you have have a friend who is interested, split the cost of the box with the friend and give them the Haqqislam models in the box.

>>54066265
I've mentioned it in the post above, but same goes to you. Check in the official infinity forum for the faction sub-forums, they have sticky threads with unit-by-unit analysis, great starting point that sheds much light into a faction.

I feel we should actually link them in the general head, I think those threads are just so good for beginners.

What *is* a Red Fury weapon, lorewise?

>>54068153
Sometimes limiting yourself to a Sectorial, with its theme and limited choices, helps you focus when starting. You can indeed start with ISS if you so want, buying some Kuang Shi and/or Wu Ming as a starting point for your core link team, then getting your hands on various misc. units like Celestial Guard, a Ninja Hacker (should still be some blisters left even though there has been a re-pack), and such.

Other suggestions is to start "Vanilla" with a generic army and choose from State, ISS, and JSA troops you like and learn fireteams later. The Starter from Red Veil's cool because of the Hsien HMG, Tiger Soldier Combi+LFT, and Tactical Bow Ninja. Zhanshi and Zuyong are kind of meh because they seem to be units that would really shine linked together in a sectorial that doesn't yet exist, but splitting the starter gets a lot of bang for buck

>>54068297
The Red Fury is a scorned woman in her PMS.

But in the actual fluff:

Since modern combat is characterized by more concentrated zones of operation than previous conflicts, squads need support weapons capable of accurate and sustained fire that are light and compatible with the rest of the team's. It is true that solutions like the Spitfire, which provide more firepower for close quarters combat, exist. But these lack accuracy at long ranges and use a different casing than other basic infantry weapons. The answer to these shortcomings is the Red Fury, a generic name for these types of weapons that reflects their superior fire rate. The Red Fury comes from the standard team rifle, but is equipped with a more robust firing mechanism, able to resist the fire rate needed to keep sustained fire, and a heavier barrel to avoid overheating. Even though the Red Fury has higher capacity magazines, it has been designed to accept basic magazines from the standard team rifle. So in a long fight, the shooter can utilize his team mate's magazines to keep providing fire support.

TL;DR a Standard team rifle with mods to provide higher Rate of Fire and shock ammo

>>54068367

Thanks. The name sounds like a flamethrower but it's clearly not, haha.

>>54068153
Imperial Service works great and has its own distinctive strengths.

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/2614-a-treatise-on-warfare-the-imperial-service/

This thread delivers all information you could possibly want. Except maybe a shopping list.

>The ISS starter is solid. Imo mixed bag of good to strong agents + your bread and butter line troops.

>KuangShi are an important, often used characteristic staple unit for ISS, they're dirt cheap, effective, generate orders.

>WuMing are solid heavy infantry with good point costs and flexible options + immensely sexy models.

>SuJian cat Transformer is its own very strong and fearsome special thing, very potent.

>LuDuan and RuiShi are beautiful, powerful attack drones.

I'd say for the beginning ISS starter is pretty good, then KuangShi are often used and boost many lists, and beyond that it's whatever you're hungry for.

I started with celestial guard special weapons box + a Hsien and WuMing. The celestial guard box is old though, and there will be new models in the unforeseeable future (old ones still look neat).

>>54068297
>>54068367
The modern real world equivelent is probably this muhreen gun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M27_Infantry_Automatic_Rifle

>>54068391
>>54068413

I personally thought it was just a spitfire with shock but the fluff I just looked up for you made me realize the difference in the -3 range band (which I didn't notice because I roughly never shoot from the -3 range band unless I'm extremely desperate).

>>54067921
>http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/31283-the-dragon-stirs-imperial-service-in-the-making-wuming-in-action/?page=2

thanks for the link. It does seem rather complicated though. Is there something like base coat+wash=done paint scheme. My only army I ever painted was metal Grey Knights, and those I could do with 3 colors and an ink wash. Tried it with the ISS dude, but it looks horrible, sadly.

>>54068412

Interesting, thank you. Love that missile launcher WuMing sculpt.

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>>54068616
I mean, you can do whatever scheme you want, they're your dudes. Yu Jing HI in metals could look pretty dope. I think one of the anons around here does it like that with some touches of red, not unlike a grey knight.

I've personally experimented a bit with how I paint Yu Jing, at one time doing snow camo, at another purple, at another Urban Camo. Make your own choices if you find the official color scheme(s) difficult.

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/49332-do-you-think-hacking-is-still-enjoyable/

This has been an interesting read

>>54067109
McMurrough is an unique condition, which was caused by an Hashassin acting by the orders of the Old Man of the Mountain. He seems to have some 4D Chess plot that involves genetically tampered Dog Warrior.

>>54069455
What if Old Man of the Mountain is actually ALEPH playing 7D checkers across 12 planets?

>>54069886
What if the old man of the mountain is a time travelling Alpharius disguised as Guileman?

>>54069963
What if the Old Man of the Mountain is two midgets in a trenchcoat?

>>54069973
I'd honestly prefer it to some illegal AI.

What's with the historical recreations, anyway. It seems really silly; at least the Steel Phalanx are mythological characters and pure propaganda.

>>54070226
Because it's cool. They're recognizable named characters with set personalities you can work with that are in the public domain. Also, Corvus Belli had a foundation in miniatures by making historical minis, so history buff stuff is more their thing. Even if that has some awkward results like units named from propaganda pieces and notorious war criminals. Simon Bolivar for the Nomads next, please!

>>54069049
ok.I am probably just tired of wasting money and time painting . only for the models to look shit, and me having to dump it in to aceton.

>>54070995
Sounds like you're unnecessarily harsh on yourself.

>>54071279
trust me, I know I that what ever I do to models is "bad painting", but somehow with inifinity models I manged to reach a new mastery. My GK for example when you look at them from the other side of a gaming table look ok. Not great, not good, but passable, as long as someone doesn't pick them up and get a closer look. My kuang chis on the other hand look as if someone took a bucket of paint and vomited it on the models. And I have redone them 3 times already. So no am not too harsh on myself, the models do end up looking bad even by standards of me painting them. there is just too many flat surfaces that have to be done in a way I do not know to look ok. A grey knights "face"/helmet you just do one color, dot red eyes and from 1meter away the face is ok. A kuang chi with Red dots instead of its eyes ona white helmet, look exactly like that. As if someone covered the model in white paint and then tried to get 4 dots on its face.

>>54069429

I wouldn't know. I haven't seen a meaningfully-hackable target from my opponent hit the table in almost two years.

Around here, it's all Haqq LI, Ariadna of various flavors, and Morats. The one PanO guy plays a Swiss Guard or Cutter Rambo list, but since they spend pretty much the whole game in a marker state, they're never really in a position to be hacked at all.

I don't really even bother anymore. I've mostly hung up my Bakunin and moved over to Corrigidor entirely (where one Bandit hacker is more than enough).

>>54069429
As a JSA/YJ player the KHD really trimmed down the amount of times I've fielded the AHD as I'm usually hacking hackers or data-scanning anyways, the buff to EVO takes care of supportware and buffs AD at the same time, and my regular opponent nearly never fields TAGs, of which I have an answer with Oniwabans and ML, and the HI he does occassionally field as a link are damn near unhackable with their tinbots.

>>54066265
>mobile barista infantry
kek

>>54071462
You may want to look into killionaires 90 minute painting on the official forums. If my >>54025037 shitty photo looks ok to you then you may want to give it a try. Its all washes using vallejo thinner and glaze mediums. My white is actually 50:50 mix of white and silver so it didnt take rediculous amounts to get good coverage. Took a bit more than i wanted because i primed grey like a tard but oh well.