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No one making a new thread, edition.

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First for Chaplains fucking blow.
I-Cs are even worse.
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>>54001880
I claim this for the alpha legion
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>54001880
Second for anyone wanting femMarines is a faggot.
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>>54001932
>marines use high heels to get taller
sad!
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>>54001880
SISTERS OF PERSPECTIVE
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>>54001928

Good call.

Moving forward with the Alpha Legion Ultramarine project -

Should I do decals or get all raised hydra pads from that 3rd party guy, or Forgeworld?
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>>54001932
Immortan Joe made out well for himself in the future, I see.
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>>54001780
>>54001720

rowboats head is the same size as a regular marine head so you'll be fine, you will have to cut one of the neck parts though (you get two sets of two halves, one for unhelmeted and one for helmeted) to get it to fit
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Looking for feedback on this. Obviously only a small amount of content so far, mostly looking for errors in formating, style advice, etc. Would be very helpful if you could take a look at it and comment, even if it's just 'looks fine, finish it'.
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>>54001932
So, now we can officially add Overwatch to the ever-growing list of things GW is stealing from. Took longer than expected.
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anyone have any idea how to make Orks more competitive in 8th edition, I have an army consisting of 20 boyz, 10 nobz, 20 gretchins, a trukk, a battle wagon, 5 burna boyz, a mek gun and a warboss
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>>54001986
how is that stealing from overwatch?

which itself is literally TF2 with blizzard characters?
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>7E GK 'dex
>UWWAGGGHHHH
>PassBacks are so OP
>"Umm, ya know those are gone, right"
>SHUT UP THEY'RE OP
>*as he unpacks his White Scars Grav spam list

>8E Index
REEE GKs ar so OP fuck anyone who plays them

It's been THREE (3!) editions now, git gud.

>mfw most of this general doesn't even know what PassBacks are
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>>54001932
> we want the call of duty crowd
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>>54001986
kys faggot

That's clearly stealing from Marvel Comics.
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R8
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>>54001951
nothing wrong with high heels if you're a femarine
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>>54002028
>Primaris
0/2
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>>54001962
Decals, if this was in universe alpha legion would have coat of temporary um paint over their normal paint scheme.
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I don't care what advantages Gravis Armor gives me, I'll field this captain every time.
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I just discovered that you can get these things for a tenner or so. Going to try and make a gargantuan squiggoth. Looks to be about 12 inches long, which is roughly right, but a little low, which should be fixable with a nice big howdah. Picked up a Dimetrodon kit too to loot the head. Will still need to bulk the jaw out, add tusks and so on, but it will be a better basis than the trike's. Weirdly, I haven't seen anyone else try this, so there might be some flaw I'm not spotting.
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>>54002028
Too much of that weird brown
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>>54001980

Thank you. I'm better than most at sculpting/converting which should help. I shouldn't have to do very much of that though due to how clean Alpha Legion are.

I think armor colour-wise I'm doing a brighter blue with the classic silver trim. See attached.

I would love it if you guys would post pictures for inspiration
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>>54002032
>>54001940
I really want there to be female prirmaris marines, it's a shame there are so few female 40k characters.

I dont why people are so against it, mention it here and 99% of people will REEE over it.
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>>54001880
Aaand the new Libby is a old white male. Way to go, GW. Continue to perpetuate the patriarchy.
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>>54002034
>autistic
Pls don't rate things in future fampai
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>>54001993
Buy way more boyz, ditch the battlewagon and other toyz.

Boyz before toyz lad.
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>>54002076
first model with eyebrows?
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>>54002071
You can build them just fine just don't try and force them into the fluff where they don't belong.
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>>54002070
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>>54002051

It would be very difficult to make that look good so I may eschew it unless you can give me some examples.
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>>54002105
What's the point if it's not valided in the fluff?
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>>54001932

These are dope AF famalam
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>>54002105
Who's to say they don't belong? Do you know how extraordinarily sexist that is?
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>>54002063
I am just worried about that 'easy to build line' that sounds like the crap with aos where everything is monopose. I liked the complex kits makes it easier to convert for people like me who can't handle a hobby knife for shit.
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>>54001880
Thoughts on list?

Playing a small 1000pt game against Necrons next week.
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>>54002076
Give him black skin and you got old Jonah Orion
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>>54002116
REEEEEE MY SAFE SPACE
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>>54002124
This... I like to convert and the new models seem to go out of their way to make it more and more difficult. No idea why though
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So why despite having thousands of planets does the imperium of man have no scientific advancement?
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>>54002076
That head is badass, though. Might implement it into one of my Magi Dominus if it's a separate bit.
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>>54001982
"Looted Chimera: A looted Rhino is a single model equipped with 2 big shootas"

C'mon dude, a fuck-up on the first entry?
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>>54002215
Because grim dark.
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The new Infinity starter looks pretty cool.
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>>54001932
What? Scouts?
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>>54002110
Notice how the logos are light and flat
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>>54002234
Kek
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>>54002070
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>>54002070
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>>54001993
Only put valuable units in transports, but don't run (most) valuable units without them.

30 boys and a weirdboy with Da Jump is nice.

Nobz are probably the best trukk filler.

Make kommando squads out of two slugga-choppa boyz, 2 burna boyz and 1 nob.

Mek guns are good if they are KMK, acceptable if bubblechukkas and trash otherwise.

Gretchin are objective grabbers and troop slot fillers.

Warboss is a decent HQ choice, others are fairly questionable, except for the jump weirboy. Big mek with KFF on bike is probably third best.

If you're going to run a battlewagon, load it with flash gitz and lootas or a maximum size block of burna boys for re-roll abuse (both lootas and burnas roll for their number of shots as a unit, so you can spend command points to increase your average damage output).

Ideally you want to be mostly boyz or mostly elite units in transports plus walkers, so the enemy can't use all their weapons effectively (unless they were lucky enough to guess what you were bringing).
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>>54002070
models or art?
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>>54001916
U wot mate?
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>>54002246

Yeah, I get the flat logo part - It was more making it look like they were scraping the UM logo off or the UM paint, etc. while in theory that sounds great it is hard to execute.

Any idea where I can get some good white hydra decals? I've never actually done decals before, I've always told it to essentially "fuck off" and bought Forgeworld pads.
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>>54002215
They do, it's just regulated as fuck because unless you've got High Magos levels of precautions, knowledge and skill you're going to be fucked by Chaos or something. They keep it locked down because otherwise some fuck would come up with/be Tzeenched into a way to build something like a Higgs-Grounding Bomb without knowing what he's doing. The Admech does innovate, see: Cawl, Kotov, Pre-Heretek Telok, Arkhan "I just found this somewhere" Land, etcetera.

The only reason the Tau AI and Tech hasn't been buttfucked by Chaos yet is plot armour.
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>>54001932
Why is the one on the left standing like a qt anime grill
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>>54002215

I think it's because the Emperor advanced the human race so fast and beyond the normal levels that when he went to sit on the golden throne they have to catch up. That or the cult like reverence of the Emperor makes them not want to advance much as it's like "improving on God's work" even though big E was against that train of thought.
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Question to anons who have played:
How is Defiler in 8th?
How dose Obliterators do?
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>>54002028
>he thinks he will be able to paint the chest details
save yourself the pain and go with primer-coloured torsos
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>>54002314
>implying underneath the armour she isn't
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>>54002213
Probably to attract kiddies. Considering they now also sell special stuff in toystores. That and primaris and deathguard seem to be the stormcast and bloodbound of 40k and those two factions have the same problem of monoposes.
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>>54001932
The sculpts look cool, but the poses are fucking assinine. These spec ops troops look like they're out on a morning jog
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>>54002293

Both. They won't be chaos-looking at all, though so I'd stick to pre-heresy.

>>54002271
This looks okay. Everyone paints them differently, art has them all different colours it's really hard to know wtf colour they are supposed to be.
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>>54001932
Space Marine 76 reporting in
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>>54002309
First thing in google my friend
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>>54002071
Because it goes against all of the fluff, and doesn't make any sense in a galaxy where not only is manpower a virtually unlimited resource, but 99.999999999% of all humans are incapable of being space marines, so why would they waste time making female marines when it would take a shitload of rework of genetic science (which is barely tolerated when even Cawl did it, and his changes were very minor all things considered) in a process that is already barely understood, extremely expensive and resource-intensive, and has a low rate of success even when all requirements are met perfectly? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever, so the injection of female marines would be perceived as nothing more than unnecessary "diversity" in a setting where there is so much potential for diversity in other parts of the setting it's not even funny.


What GW needs to do is add female Guard bitz, redo Sisters and give them an actual range, and give us more female Inquisitors/acolytes. Also, maybe flesh out a female-only regiment like my OC donut steel 35th Velusian Banshees.
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>>54002215
Read the dark eldar 5th edition codex, the part about the cornucopia or whatever the fuck it was called explains pretty well what happens when the imperium trys to do that.
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>>54002314
Think buckled knees is a stronger stance or something.
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>no forgeworld rules for Tau Empire human auxiliaries
What the fuck gw?
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>>54002323
Defilers are fun but still overpriced. Oblits are basically expensive close range autocannons with the chance to git lucky.
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>>54002346
>it's really hard to know wtf colour they are supposed to be.

And that's exactly the way the Alpha Legion like it.
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>>54002350

Herp derp fuck my life. Time to forgeworld order 1 transfer sheet. :( Maybe I'll get one of those OP dreadnaughts while I'm at it.
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>>54002223
Thank you. I really need an editor.
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>>54002368
Just use guard.
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>>54002323
Oblits got fucked hard
Defilers seem ok now doe
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>>54002116
Reality, biology, common sense, the financial market... need I go on?
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>>54001932
I like'em
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>>54002116
You're obviously new here.
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Enough of this shit.
I would rather play 7 edition Solo Herecy than this kindergarden version of 40k.
At least it can make better tactical decisions than someone who have the stupidity to consider this mess a good game.
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NEW

ORKS

WHEN
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>>54002071>>54002116
You are faggot or a cunt, in both cases your opinion is shit. Pls drink bleach.
>>54002076
When /tg/ was infected with tumblr faggots?
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>>54001932
Love em.
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>>54002346
ok
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>>54002428
ok
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>>54002428
>baww i can't cheese with psychic powers stacking anymore bawww

Kek, get fucked faggot.
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>>54002105
>just don't try and force them into the fluff where they don't belong
No him but the prirmaris program was the prefect excuse to have Cawl figure out making the gene seed work regardless of the Y chromosome. Each chapter can then have their own recruiting process for prirmaris abominations. Like having the Dark Angles still only recruit dudes so they can keep The Rock as a gay club for shooting hot plasma.
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>>54002413
>>54002419
>>54002437
samefag is same
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>>54002124
Captain isn't Easy to Build.
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>>54002437
Did you actually just work yourself into a shoot over that b8? Guess its Summer.
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>>54002428
I don't recognise the formatting/line spacing. Where's anon got this one from, out of interest?

Pic unrelated.
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>>54002389
Gonna add a looted leman Russ soon?
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>>54002437
I cant tell if your extreme gullibility to trolls is itself trolling
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>>54002279
thanks alot guy I'll be on the lookout for these units to buy
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>>54002071
There are whole faction of crazy nuns, female inquisitors, eldar have lot of chicks in their army, and dark/harlies as well.
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>>54002466
This. It's about time GW's misogyny came to an end.
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>>54002092
Fuck this advice. Tau are still as shooty as ever and 30-man mobs disappear in two turns.

>>54001993
Run a shitload of Trukks, Stormboyz, Bikerz--anything that gets you into combat and out of firing lines quicker
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>>54002428
I started this shitposting like yesterday.
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>>54002428
>I am too shit to play without my overpowered bullshit, that can delete your army at the end of turn 2
Get fucked shitter.
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>>54002325
You could always just paint them without the arms on them, anon.
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>>54002488
And how many of them are the protagonists of the setting? How many of them have current, up to date PLASTIC models? Quit kidding yourself.
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>>54001880
Why do people keep insisting on using this image, the proportions are so fucking horrible that they make me cringe. There are so many other images of femarines that are done by a competent artist and yet people keep defaulting to this. Why do you have to torture me?
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>>54002321
Dude they have slower tech adanvment then earth now despite trillion more dudes
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Say what you will about the Naked Snake Marines, the skull helmets will make for really easy chaplain conversions.
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>>54002521
Because it tortures you
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>>54002313
Couldn't you just make an AI with the parameter to never follow chaos
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>>54002463
>>54002515
Go play your shitty Age of Sigmar bland ripoff, might as well have all units have same stats, that is best "steamlining" eh?
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>>54002471
What?
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>>54002526
Get it into your thick skull that 40k is not a 1:1 replication of the Earth as it is.
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If I'm going all Primaris in my Alpha Legion Ultras, do I even bother getting these heads?
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>>54002549
Chaos corrupts the parameter
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>>54001998
>8ED
>GK Op

Pick one. GK are dogshit now.
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>>54002559
Its really up to you, in universe the legion woulf just try their best to blend as ultras.
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>>54002028
Looks boring.
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>>54002550
I really don't know why everyone kept screaming for streamlining as if they didn't expect this to happen. The most streamlined shape is an oval egg shape. There's a reason all cars aren't shaped like that, and it's because it's bland and uninteresting. With something like 40k, streamlining should never be an end goal, it should be an increment solution. GW however clearly thought they should streamline the game up until the point there is nothing else to streamline, and now we have 8.
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>>54001932
IF I REMOVE THE MASK, WOULD YOU DIE
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>>54001982
>homebrew

into the trash it goes
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>>54001993

[b]++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Orks) [13 PL, 212pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ HQ +[/b]

[b]Big Mek [5 PL, 88pts]:[/b] Big Choppa, Grot Oiler, Kustom Force Field

[b]Weirdboy [4 PL, 62pts]:[/b] 3. Da Jump

[b]Weirdboy [4 PL, 62pts]:[/b] 3. Da Jump

[b]++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Orks) [82 PL, 1287pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ HQ +[/b]

[b]Warboss in MA [7 PL, 151pts]:[/b] Kombi-Skorcha, Power Klaw

[b]Weirdboy [4 PL, 62pts]:[/b] 3. Da Jump

[b]+ Troops +[/b]

[b]Boyz [13 PL, 189pts][/b]
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga
. 14x Ork Boy W/ Shoota
. 15x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

[b]Boyz [13 PL, 189pts][/b]
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga
. 14x Ork Boy W/ Shoota
. 15x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

[b]Gretchin [3 PL, 45pts]:[/b] 15x Gretchin

[b]+ Elites +[/b]

[b]Kommandos [6 PL, 115pts][/b]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw
. 7x Kommando
. Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Burna
. Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Burna

[b]Painboy [4 PL, 69pts]:[/b] Grot Orderly, Power Klaw

[b]Tankbustas [7 PL, 120pts]:[/b] 2x Bomb Squig
. 4x Tankbusta: 4x Rokkit Launcha
. Tankbusta w/ Hammer: Tankhammer
. Tankbusta w/ Pistols: Pair of Rokkit Pistols

[b]+ Heavy Support +[/b]

[b]Lootas [12 PL, 119pts]:[/b] 7x Loota

[b]+ Flyer +[/b]

[b]Wazbom Blastajet [8 PL, 143pts]:[/b] 2x Wazbom Mega-Kannons, Smasha Gun, Stikkbomb Flinga

[b]+ Dedicated Transport +[/b]

[b]Trukk [5 PL, 85pts]:[/b] Big Shoota, Wreckin' Ball

[b]++ Total: [95 PL, 1499pts] ++[/b]

I made this list for my cousin, wanted see if he would try it. It's definitely an alpha strike list. You're trying to get First Turn and just surround and charge the crap out of your opponent.

"Boss and Tankbustas in Trukk with Big Mek. Zoom up. Weird Boyz Jump both Boys squads and Painboy if you get all 3 off. They then become Smite machines in cover. Kommandos start 9" away. Flyer comes in to blast apart stuff. Gretchin bubble wrap Lootaz or hold objective. A lot of the points are in characters, but I feel that it's worth it."

Plan on testing it this weekend.
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>>54002598
>I really don't know why everyone kept screaming for streamlining as if they didn't expect this to happen
Because 7th was fucking terrible mess of unbalanced models and cheesy strats, so hard reset was needed.
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>>54002493
More like the Emperor's incompetence. Guy is virtually a god able to make the primarchs and a viable process for making super soldiers but he cant make it work on girls? Yet Fabulous Bile can figure it out sitting around the eye of terror.
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>>54002428
>reposting this shitty meme
>still makes typos

oh, the butthurt
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>>54002550
Age of shitmar has nothing to do with this.

The rules are BETTER and more balanced, while still being super good at differentiating between the various "almost similar" units, somehow even more than 7th.

This is how 7th edition should have been.
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So far my favorite part of 8th is how there are very few consensuses on what is good and what isn't. We know conscripts are good and Chad Marines are shit, but not much else. Especially Tau, who I have seen a pretty even split of people who think they're dead/mid tier/still cheesy. Can't wait to see the meta shake out a little more
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>>54002598
Could they not learn from the AoS? Why they are so thick skulled.
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>>54002630
>hard reset was needed
No, a careful hand was needed.
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>>54001932
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>>54002638
People only think Chads are shit bcause of memes. They're pretty good ranged troops, they're just a little overpriced.
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>>54002325
I'm sure I'll find a way.

Not my pic, but basically how I do it.
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>>54002638
>Especially Tau, who I have seen a pretty even split of people who think they're dead/mid tier/still cheesy.

It is funny reading Tau occupying most of the tier slots simultaneously. It also offers tons of tears from many different people
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>>54002500
Shit advice is shit. Stormboyz are good, but trukks are too expensive to put anything but Nobz into and expect returns.

Da Propa List is either mobz of Boyz with shootas backed by lobbas and Megakannons, or elites/fast attack heavy ditching the boyz for a fragile list. Trukks cost too much for 12 boyz to ever make the points back.
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>>54002674
No one doubted the effectiveness of hellblasters. It's intercessors and inceptors that are the problem. They aren't killy enough for the points they cost.
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>>54002598
The streamlining is so the upcoming Codex Releases can get crazy without fucking with the general ruleset. It's a good change.
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>>54002591

No FW heads it is.

How do you feel about this Contemptor? Too gawdy? Just go with the decals again?
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>>54002488
nobody wants to play the sisters of BASSHOLE.
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>>54002696
keep telling yourself that, kiddo. in the mean time i will be playing 7th while you waste you're time with child games.
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>tfw Grotzookas are shit
>tfw run and shoot is 6+
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>>54002635
>The rules are BETTER
They are more primitive.
>and more balanced
Not for long
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>>54002550
stop being angry because
"b'awww mommy the other kids like things I don't" and crawl back into whatever corner is designated for you grognards.
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>>54002727
Have fun getting kicked out of FLGS's and GW's.
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>no-one posted the new snapfit death guard or poxwalkers
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>>54002696
Yeah we'll see about that.
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>>54002631
Grills are for other purposes.
Like if you were Almighty Emperor would you not set guys to fight aliens and kept all grills to yourself?
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>>54002746
i already got banned from the LGS its not that bad. i just host games in my basement i.e. the superior choice.
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>>54002749
>we'll see about that

Exactly, you fucking retard. We will see about that. So until then, what's the point in bitching?
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So the all the Baneblade chassis, Steel Behemoth doesn't let them ignore the penalty to moving and shooting with heavy weapons.

Intentional or oversight?
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How's this for a 500 pt list

General Idea is distraction carnifexs, with a first turn assault from raveners+ RT

Is it worth getting a cheaper HQ for more stuff? Hive Tyrant does give psyker stuff and isnt that much more than a Broodlord
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>>54002703
Im a bit biased I don't like the contemptor desgin, however I do like it as paint scheme though it looks like pre heresy with the lack of green.
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>>54002742
>If I am kid, everyone is a kids too!
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>>54002747
Again with the odd poses...
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>>54002742
Why do i even try to save those autists from degrading even more?
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>>54002703
Depends on if they wanna fake it for a loyalist dread or not
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>>54002747
because they suck, the only thing worth of the whole lot is the launcher
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>>54002772
forgot pic
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This is why they wear helmets?
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>>54002707
Don't worry, some trap will touch you in your special place someday. Until then carry on.
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>>54002801
Is there a mirror up for that list builder yet or is that a list you already had?
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>>54002390
They legally are not allowed to ally each other under 8e rules. FW could have given us Gue'vesa rules with the intent to use guard models.
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>>54002778
You seem awfully fixated on calling other people kids, anon-kun.
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>>54002696
Top kek, They just made ridiculous detachment again, filled with their new expensive models to sell to the idiots who float in dellusion that 8e is balanced.
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>>54002747
They are pretty gribbly... a little too close to spawn for my taste.
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>>54002837
Let's all sit and pretend shit that hasn't happened yet is proof for our opinions
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>>54002828
nah i just kept the tab open
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>>54002778
Your logic astounds. Truly you must be a genius on a level far above us mere mortals.
Or maybe your just a salty bitter twat who can't accept that other people like 8th Edition.
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>>54002749

Its already all scales of crazy

>Imperial Guard fluffy army is top tier
>Ork fluffy army is top tier
>Draigo Grey Knight army is curb stomp time
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>>54002769
Intentional. CSM doesn't get it either on a lot of stuff either.
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>>54002835
>You seem awfully fixated on calling other people kids
>says >>54002742
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>>54002870
>Or maybe your just a salty bitter twat who can't accept that other people like 8th Edition.

Well yeah. some people cares about their hobby
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>>54002773

I like it, plus they're good this edition. My goal is definitely a loyalist AL colour scheme, pre heresy-esque.

>>54002784
That's what I'm not sure about. I am definitely using this as a Primaris-only army (Except maybe tanks) and don't know if these guys will have scratched off Ultra icongraphy, declared Alpha Legion after pretending to be Ultras, or just doing their Alpha thing as not chaos not Imperium and just using the model range.
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>>54002865
So gullible
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What is the best Leviathan loadout? I think it's 2x Grav Flux but Idk.

What parts should I buy from FW for mine just in case?

Thanks all,
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>>54002898
>cares about their hobby
>is angry that people are enjoying it
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>>54002727
>7th 40k
>not childs game

neck yourself
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>>54002935
>What parts should I
>buy from FW

Wrong
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>>54002898
Ahblubluh no more formation spam is scary!
Aaahhhh change is bad REEE!
Do you even hear yourself?
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>>54002366
what is it?
>>
Anybody unironically defending 7th in these threads is trolling. Nobody is actually that retarded, please ignore the shitposters.
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>>54001932
Are those new sisters in truescale?
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>>54002071
Don't worry anon, this is the New Games Workshopâ„¢. The seed has been planted in the new Dark Imperium book. Cawl is going to fuck around with the missing legion geneseed and boom, suddenly femarines.

Anyone who doesn't think it will happen is ignoring the evidence to the contrary.
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>>54002727
Of all editions, why 7e? 8e is pretty widely accepted at present, with I think the main complaints being the relative lack of psychic powers and flavorful options, which we're fairly certain are coming in the codices. If, however, you decide you don't want to play 8e, why in the world would you choose 7e as the replacement? There are better editions.
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>>54002957

Ok, where do I buy it from then?
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>>54002908
More of an ironclad guy
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>>54002965
Oh anon... your naivete is truly a beautiful thing. There are indeed people actually that pants on head, boot on feet retarded.
Unfortunately one of them is the organizer for my local 40k league...
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>>54002992
recaster on ebay

I picked up a leviathan with 2 flux arms for $40 free shipping.
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>>54002947
>>is angry that people are killing it
fix
>>54002962
>reeeeeeee it's not 4+ to win, reeeeeee
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>>54002975
I unironically can't wait. I'm not baiting or trolling. If this makes you upset I apologize, but I want femaris marines.
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>>54003000
But if you are going to stick your head in the sand why not just play 3.5?
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So, if doing a Black Dragon marine army, would Blood Angels be the best fit? Death Company as Dragon Claws, I was thinking.
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>>54002935
Holy shit that's a sexy model.
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>>54003020
He plays Craftworld Eldar and Tau. Need I say more?
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>>54003018
>Chapter Master Snu-Snu
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>>54002984
tactical depth. you don't see that in a lot of games nowadays and GW killed one of the last remaining wargames that required thought RIP
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>>54002971
and true thiccnes!
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>>54003090
7th had no depth. It wasn't even a puddle.
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>>54003090
Hahahaha OMG.

>Str D troops
>Everything hits on 2
>JSJ on everything
>tactical depth
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>>54002975
Love that model

sucks that almost nobody cares for aos and the fluff is pretty meh
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>>54003090
So you're saying that 7e was more "tactical" and a better game, than any of the preceding editions?
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>>54003090
>7th ed required thought
>let me just netlist this psyker heavy army. or maybe i'll throw a bunch of riptides in

as far as the general rules go, 7th ed was fucking over-bloated with necessary crap. i'm willing to bet you're just mad you can't cheese your way currently as you did before. don't worry WAACfag, the new meta will develop soon enough
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>>54003125
You forgot grav-spam and free wargear/transports from formations.
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>>54003090
>spam the most broken units with the best wargear in the most efficient formations
>tactical depth
LOL
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>>54003090
Don't confuse complexity for depth, Anon. 7th had less depth than 8th does.
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>>54003142
Free drop pods!
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>>54003090
If you want tactical depth, why aren't you playing an older edition?
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So...I've seen what Marines look like, and I've seen what independent Guard regiments look like, but what do Guard regiments dedicated to supporting Space Marines look like?
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> Start Necrons on the side because I liked the 3rd edition fluff
> Come up with fluff about a group of Necrons that follow a C'tan that just wants live to grow kinda like a druid, and murders stuff that threatens it's garden
> Soon come up with a design kinda like the robots from Castle in the Sky for the C'tan
> Realize I also basically copied Bastion from Overwatch
> Just roll with it because nothing I could do

What's the best way to model my Monolith so it looks like it's still covered in mud/grass?

Also what to name my new Necron/Bastion army?

Pic related.
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>>54003174
literally just do pick related and make the monolith an open roof garden
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>>54003146
I have been trying to explain that to some friends. I am glad to see others share that opinion.
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>>54003131
Could be a pretty cool Captain or Chapter master with some conversion work.
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>>54003225
What's the female word for Captain? Captainess? Sorry, ESL
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>>54002586
>now
We were dogshit in 7th, too, familio.
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>>54001880
can you fuckers at least wait until the first codex before you declare 8th edition retarded

have they said what army gets the first codex and when?
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>>54003243
Captain is gender neutral AFAIK.
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>>54003143

>That feeling where you know that GW is going to mess up everything when the Codices start coming out

Can't wait for those strategems, expend 2 points so that your Heavy/Special weapons Marines can fire twice. And more in Codex Marine and Codex Marine Marine
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>>54003257
Wait. So you can have a female Captain? That seems wrong to me.
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>>54003174
>color scheme also like pic related pls
>and use the nightbringer, he have gardening tools
>flayed ones covered in moss instead of skin
>spiders like hoovering gardens
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>>54003243
It's just Captain. Military ranks don't have differences between male and female.
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>>54003090
>you see me bringing unkillable gorilla man with two skyhammers is deep strategic thinking
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>>54003279
I'll be copying these down.

Though how good are Monoliths? They're one of my favorite units mainly because of how unkillable they were in 3rd and 5th.
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I need a monley, but the jokaero is fucking finecast, are there more monkey type models in the GW range? In plastic ofc
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Yo why tf do tau and necrons not get fucked up by chaos.

Doesn't chaos mess with AI or some shit
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>>54003347
Necron's aren't AI.
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>>54002599
IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL.
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>>54003273
Is your native language one of those where every word needs a specific gender?
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>>54002935
I think you can only replace one claw tho, or maybe im just reading it wrong.
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>>54003347
Tau have no warp presence. They are basically invisible to Daemons.
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>>54003347
Tau have the presence of vegetation in the warp, and necrons are basically anti-warp
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>>54003389
Well they have almost no warp presence. Demons can still see them but with their lack of psykers they are certainly not a strong presence in the warp.
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>>54002413
>Realismfags
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>>54003009
Based chinamen has it for $24.
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>>54003347
Necrons aren't AI, Anon, come on now.
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>>54003327
S8 T8 W20 3+

if not vehicle/monster charges him on a roll of 4+ said unit suffers D6 mortal wounds

Have 4 gauss arc (Heavy 3 S5 AP -2 D1) and one whip (Heavy 6 S8 AP -2 D D3)

can transport any number of infantry and each turn heals one wound lost

for 381 points

not bad imho
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>>54003425

I'm reminded of DoW 1 where the chaos dude is telepathically talking shit and the Tau commander just keeps complaining about some annoying buzzing in the comms
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>>54003400
>>54003389
This reminds me, in third and fourth O'Shava was hinted to possibly be demonically possessed. It looks like that is not how it panned out though. Is he just aware of Chaos now and not happy no one informed him or what is his deal? Also isnt his sword a demon weapon?
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>>54002279
>reroll lootaz dakka
Why the fuck didn't I think of this
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>>54001932

Going to be:
>Stealing the sergeant head for conversions
>Modding their bolt pistols into revolvers
>Giving them a light cloak to cover their head and shoulders

I might as well just go all out on them.
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>>54003450
A robot is an AI
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>>54003463
Look at his model. There's no way that's not a necron sword.
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>>54003454
Sounds good to me. Would using these as troops transports to objectives be a good idea or too risky?
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>>54003485
I agree I was just asking about it in regards to the 3rd/4th lore which strongly indicated he may have been compromised by Chaos. They seemed to be setting him up to be the Tau Horus.
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>>54002116
>posting in a white patriarchy supremacist site
>expecting support to the delusion of equality
Unless you have a dick and be proud of it get the fuck out of here
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>>54003425
In one of the TTRPG's Tau have to try to fuck up to be detected by Daemons, if I recalls. Which is how unnoticeable they are to Daemons.

>>54003463
As much as I would like to add some Oni-themed Khorne Tau to my Tau, >>54003485 is most likely correct. Unless they update his model and make it more "Eldar-y" the only thing that can't be explained is the life force stealing thing. I don't know Necron lore too well to know if they had anything capable of that.
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>>54003486
since it can deepstrike (at 12"+ of enemy models) it will be cool as a T1 carnifex
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>>54003506
>it's muh secret club I declare everyone thinks like me!

Yeah fuck off with your speaking for 4chan shit, go be contrarian on your containment board
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>>54003531
But he's right. Now fuck off
>>
What do you guys think of playing 40k on Tabletop Simulator?
I've never played Warhammer 40,000 itself because I was turned off by the model prices and lack of interest in my friend group, but TTS was on sale and I've seen some videos of people using it to play 40k.
What's your opinion on it?
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>>54003525
Gotcha.

Now how good is an Obelisk?
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>>54003483
Good thing they aren't robots then, huh?
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>>54003522
In Fire Warrior dont you fight a Tzeentch greater daemon though?

I am glad they changed that since I really didnt like how they were building a small Imperium and just making it follow the same path.
>>
When is the sm codex coming?
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>>54003558
Fire Warrior was full of bullshit.
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>>54003542
If you're going to play exclusively on a computer there are better vidyas to play. 40k is first and foremost about the models.
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>>54002124
captain is multipart with no chapter specific parts and a ton of options so its lookin good
>>54002213
AoS starters had monopose colored plastic but multipart kits still came out, its just so the new guys dont feel retarded for buying an easy kit vs a full kit as theres only one kit available (for now)
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>>54002431
When the ne codex is released, think about it, it makes sense.
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>>54003569
I wasn't aware of how cannon it was. I mean the rail riffle did show up there first. I can understand if that is the only thing they kept from it though.
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>>54003542
Imho makes no sense.
40k works because it blends a lot of different things: collecting, painting, creating stories, interacting with other persons, fisicity of the models...
the game itself is ok, but what makes 40k appealing cant be replicated in tts. You'll be left only with an unbalanced tactical game.

My advice is start slowly; take a start Collecting or even a single box +hq, do a coouple of demo games with that squad, when you have painted it expand your army, and eventually you'll have a full army.

it takes time and dedication but its incredibly satisfying and it cant be replicated by any other hobby.
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>>54003505

Farsight is basically the tau freedom crusader, daemon buster and anti Orwellian establishment dude
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>>54003592
I mean, the other problem is that the only game store in my area is owned by the father of a super sketchy dude I knew in high school and have no desire to ever encounter again.
But that's just a personal thing.
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>>54003542
I am not really a big fan of playing it on a simulator. >>54003570 as this anon said "first and foremost about the models." Without the attachment to the models I have paints and put together myself I would agree that their are better games.
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>>54003543
Bad. Take the Tessaract Ark instead.

Same main gun, but it can uses 3 powers of the C'tan a turn. It also can use them in any distribution, so it deals 3d3 mortal wounds, or each model roles 3d6 and takes a mortal wound on a 6, etc.
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>>54002571
> MFW I won a tournament once with an UNDERDOG AS FUCK LIST
> By charging tanks with 30 Rough Riders
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>>54003377
you're a big guy...
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>>54003683
are their any examples of people building that model so they can transform it back and forth with magnets?
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>>54001928
Still waiting for Age of Sigmar: Dawn of the Eternals with the Stom Ravens as protagonists
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Burn your armies down, Marinelets player. It is the time of the babbies to take your place.
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>>54003639
Or a naive, rebellious child whose draining of Tau resources will doom both it and him to the enemies of the greater good.
>>
Whats happened to KDK? Are they just back to being part of the CSM army now? Do bloodletters and flesh hounds still have a place or will time tell?
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>>54001986
What?
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>>54003669
Search in social media if there are any player.
Then just organize a game somewhere else.
putting off a table for a game or two is easy enough. i tested 8th edition on a plain table with Gumpla boxes as buildings.

Also, never go WAAC.
And don't listen for most /v/ advcies, like THIS DOESNT WORK, BUILD THIS LIST OR GTFO.

make your own army with your own ideas, get new models based on what you like, how they act, how do you tyhnk yoiur army shoud expand or anything you want but NEVER on someone else's advice(unless you are a tourneyfag), or you'll regret it.
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>>54003715
http://bloodofkittens.com/wargaminghub/2016/03/11/how-to-magnetise-a-necron-obelisktesseract-vault/

Personally I just made the vault without the C'tan shard and put a crystal in the middle.
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>>54003686
and they have the outrider detachment so death cavalry ahoy
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>>54003730
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>>54003730
Why? I still have old Rogue Trader beakies I still use sometimes.
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>>54001986
>mini with a skull face
But GW has used this concept 5 ways to sunday before overwatch was even thought of. The masks don't even look close to reaper. Look to infinity for both inspiring and stealing from overwatch.
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>>54003730
Meh, my Marines are mainly for 30k, so I'm good. But I do want to make a unit of primarines. If only there were some options for them, because right now it's just what's in the starter box. I'm also totally getting a some spare primarine bolters with scopes as sniper bolters for my 30k recce squad.
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>>54003174
Name it the O'verwatch dynasty.
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>>54003743
>faction keyword: khorne
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>>54003834
Patrician taste, anon
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>>54002681
WTF look like aftermath of battle between tau and Khorne cultists.
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>>54003431
>t.Cuckold fetishist
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>>54003859
can you explain what this means for me. I was just coming into the game so Im really confused as to whats happening. How useless are all those models I bought going to be?
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>>54003909
They're all useless now.
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>>54003909
your army needs to share at least one faction keyword, you can do KDK, and even NDK, SDK, TDK
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>>54003841
>>legion of the damned primaris marines when?
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>>54003909
Dont trust this lying piece of shit >>54003935
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>>54003909
Don't trust this lying piece of shit>>54003957
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>>54002304
Chaplains are NOT good.

Interogator-Chaplains are even worse.
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>>54002344
>These spec ops troops look like they're out on a morning jog

UH P. T.!
UH P. T.!
GOOD FOR YOU!
GOOD FOR ME!
UH OHHH YEAH!
OHHH YEAH!

MAMA, MAMA, CAN'T YOU SEE?
WHAT LORD PRIMARCH DONE TO ME!
STRAPPED ME IN LORD CAWL'S DAMN TUBE!
STARTED THE PROBE WITHOUT NO LUBE!
NOW IT'S EM-DOT-FOHTY-ONE!
TEN THOUSAND YEARS TILL OUR RUN IS DONE!
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>>54003909
That guy is full of bullshit, all chaos have keyword CHAOS so can mix and match how they want.
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>>54003969
You're the lying piece of shit!
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>>54002975
GW wouldn't dare. No one in their right mind expects 40k will go normie if they strap tits on marines and they would risk too much. 40k is THE designated male fantasy world. The entire universe, femarines or not, is made to appeal to the male psyche.
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>>54003592
Well put
>>
Wait, is anything that prevents me from using Smite in melee?
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>>54002586
Lrn 2 read, numbskull.
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>>54004019
No.

Why would there be
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>>54004009
>implying females are not appealing to male psyche
i am not sure i follow you, anon
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>>54004009
Do you see any fur on any of the new models? Just wait, anon. Fem-marines will come.
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>>54004009
Primaris SistersofBattle don't seem too far off though
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>>54003696
FOR YOU.
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>>54004049
Thanks.

Time blow some skulls with the mind powers.
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>>54004058

You all complained about the Space Wolves being too wolfy, and now you've opened the gates for femarines.
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>>54002681
Cool terrain pieces.
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>>54004051
Femarines don't. Space Marines are basically testosterone incarnate. It's the ultra-masculine fantasy for dudes to retreat into if they feel their primal male instincts are not sated enough by modern life. For me at least.
>>
>tfw no Renegade Knight army
>>
Daily reminder, that female marines goes against the verismilitude of the setting.

AS DO nuMARINES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>54002681
>Found on the planet Hyperion
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>>54003981
So essentially chaos is just one army? I can have marines and bloodletters in the same list and they are all just part of "chaos" or whatever, no allies or anything like that?
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>>54003472
Don't forget to glue shitloads of grass tufts all over the models, Raptorsanon.
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>>54004009
But wouldn't fem-marines look exactly like normal marines just with different faces and hairdos.

Like, they would basically get gender reassignment surgery and be pumped with testosterone on top of the normal marine mods, because the male body is objectively more suited to combat.
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>>54004142
>tfw you're looking the wrong index
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>>54003883
>Deathwing Knights losing to Guilliman
WAT
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>>54004153
Pretty much.

It's fucking stupid.
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>>54004009
Risk what? If you think anyone is going to do anything more talk about how shit the new lore is, I have some bad news for you.
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>>54002466
>recruit only the best candidates for the space marines
>recruit women
Pick one m8
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>>54003942
There won't be, the true behind the legion of the dammed is that they were all burned by their players and in deep dismay they embraced burning ascension as a way to still serve the Emperor
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Don't female marines would look exactly as normal marines but with a girly deep voice? or people expect Primaris Sisters?
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https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Get-Started-First-Strike/
New primarines are up for preorder!
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>>54004221
>https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Get-Started-First-Strike/
Nice, only 50 bucks too
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>>54004221
>>54004260
(You)
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I wonder why GW chose the Deathguard for the counterpart to the Marines for the starter stuff. They don't seem to have that much appeal to those not in the hobby already.
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>>54004198
risk losing players. The reason I love 40k is because it still feels like some wacky heavy metal album cover from the 80's and doesn't really change. If GW gave in to the needs of PC virtue signalling I'd quit out of principle.
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Any one else really like centurions
>>
Just FYI since this one's just gone past the bump limit, and some people have been making threads as early as possible recently, there is another 40k general currently up (and below the bump limit) here:
>>54002078
>>54002078
>>54002078
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>>54004160
There was a good article published by the Guardian recently about how women are actually scientifically stronger than men. You should take a look.
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>tfw power creep will eventually ruin 8th edition.

Forgeworld are already trying to make that reality.
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>>54004337
>scientifically stronger
What did he mean by this?
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>>54004200
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>>54004155

I'm not going to go the raptors-anon way. It's going to be a paired down Inq28 team. One Apothecary, one Sergeant, one regular dude who's going to have a Deathwatch shoulderpad to denote his time served, and I just decided I want one of those sneaky Marines to join the party.

Fuck, might as well model the team off Halo: Reach and get a female Inquisitor who... Fuck I'm already modding a Greyfax model for that purpose. I might as well make my Apothecary a sniper and wait for when Devastator Primaris come out so I can have one with an Assault Cannon.
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>>54004155
>>54004386
What happened to raptors-anon?i haven't seen any monstergirls in a while
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>>54004349
Given the forgeworld rules include rolling a D6 for no reason whatsoever, an aircraft that can never fire its main guns, and a tank that requires you to be a time traveller, I'm leaning towards massive incompetence rather than maliciousness.
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>>54004274
To create a contrast between the clean armor of the marines and the gribbly armor of the plagueysand get people to buy more marines/spoiler].
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>>54002028
I like it. Had a similar idea myself. Maybe a more interesting color for the chest icon? Perhaps a coppery metallic.
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>>54004337
>>54004354
After a quick google search and a skim the article just goes on about how Women are better survivors, have longer lifespans, and are better at endurance running in many cases. I don't know how this has anything to do with being strong enough to do anything a marine does without being pumped of chemicals to the point they are basically at a male marine's muscular level.
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why are all the books sold out everywhere?

and also list builder is kill
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>>54004465
Could work, thanks for the advice.
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>>54004469
Well yeah women have some advantages in that regard since they are the 'baseline' humans and males mutate from the same beginnings or some shit. Still they are not better 'survivors' in the sense of surviving in a jungle etc.
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>>54004469
That is why women are so much worse at all track events right.

Jesus the gymnastics people do to try to make women appear superior.
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>>54003581
That info about the captain makes me very happy. Thanks for that!
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>>54004531
Just say they are carcharodons at that point.
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Is anyone else really fucking hyped for the fight between girlyman and morty?
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>>54004577
The articles definition of surviving is very vague anyways. Like, oh man X% more females live to Y years more than men, sure. That has nothing to do with genetically modified humans, as I have never heard of a marine dieing from natural causes.

>>54004579
>The Guardian
You are surprised why?
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>>54004417

Maybe he died?
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>>54004641
It shows that women are objectively superior choices for geneseed implantation.
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>>54004632
No. Get lost gw employee
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which would be better?

>captain with missile launcher spam
>chaplain with assault marine spam
>both
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>>54004704
Do you even know the process by which they make marines? They weed out the weak because only the strongest could attempt to survive the process. Adding another step having to essentially do a sex change would lower the failure rate even more.

This is bait.
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>>54004760
That was the old process, anon. Primaris marines are different. We'll just have to wait and see and hope
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>>54002066
a guy on youtube, kiblam made one like that out of a dino, he cut it in half and used some plasticard to cover the cut as armor plates. was a pretty neat build
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SO the Yeands Will rule... Which lets Ynnari embark on any eldar transports...

Only the Ynnari characters have it?
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>>54004704
>>54004760
Actually this is true in the sense that women would have better chances of surviving implantation. But they would be shittier results.

Also Aspirants are chosen by sending some teenagers on fucking dangerous quests unmodified females have literally 0 chance of accomplishing.
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Are Dakkajets still the best of the Ork flyers?
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>>54004832
You can't say the results will be shittier.
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>>54004579
Trans women are better than women at all physical activities figthing, weightlifting etc. A tranny marine is more realistic than a actual xx chromosome female marine.

Although when the inevitable female marine arrives I hope she is black and has an afro for the memes.
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>>54004577
Is this bait
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>>54002935
Double bombards for stats, relic contemptor is better for melee, storm cannons look better though.
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>>54005177

What about the melta lances?
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>>54005177

What are the best Contemptor and Leviathan load outs? I bought three Contemptors and two Leviathans, with all the arm options for each. Still waiting for them to ship across the pond.

Then i'm going to buy the Dark Millennium primaris half and use them with Guilliman.
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>>54005390
Assault levitron x2 for contemptor
Siege drills + heavy gyrocannon for leviathan
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>>54004981
Why can't I, they will be.
>>54005104
Nah, I actually remember this from biology class.
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>>54002063

Same, I'm not sure T5 is worth 30 extra points when you can get a bike for the same price that also makes you go fast.

Also it sounds like there are other weapon options, which hopefully includes a thunder hammer
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>>54005447

why siege drill + gyro tho
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>>54005570

Bikes look like shit. Bike spammers are faggots who should burn in hell. You effectively ruined, what? three editions worth of Space Marine armies?

As far as I'm concerned they should have been taken away entirely. I'd love to see the tears from all the '''''White Scars'''''' players who have shit up the meta for so long.
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>>54005571
>choosing anything else
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>>54005390
For the Leviathan, two stormcannons is probably the best option.

With on A4, charging the leviathan into melee is a bit of a waste, since other dreads can do comparable damage for half the cost.

20 AP -2 Autocannon shots though. Now we're talking. Put him next to bobby for rerolling wounds. Fuck her right in the pussy.
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>>54005659

Okay cool. I'll have bobby flanked by them while his boys in blue act like a meat wall.
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>>54005584

30k outrider bikes look ace though

Shame about the jetbikes
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>>54003542
It's not actually a good game system, not worth playing virtually.

The fun comes from the models and the spectacle and playing with friends IRL.
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>>54002076
hot damn, guess I'm getting a 3rd librarian
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>>54005815

I will give you that, Outriders are sexy.
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>>54002076

I hope we get an apothecary I can turn into a Sanguinary Priest. This Librarian might work too with a head swap?
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>>54004704
>Implying that women don't live longer on average because men work more dangerous jobs and are more often victims of violent crime, depression, suicide, etc.

>Implying average lifespan isn't just an average that gets skewed by the 20-somethings that die in car accidents and from falls on construction sites
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>>54004608
Or a successor chapter.
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