Politics and MTG

>>54001397

*to the right,
Not
The right felt

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Some of the shit they push is absolutely hilarious.

There is literally nothing wrong with this

>>54001397
>omg a single post about pride why is everything so extreme!!!!!!
>baaawwwwww

How about you just move on with your fucking life instead of kneejerking all the time?

>>54001418

...Jesus, is that backed up in story or just assumed. I never noticed how close they were, I guess.

>>54001397

Official D&D books have had genderbending wizards and gay characters for a damn long time.

>>54001442

This has been a revolving set of issues, women, divirsity, sexuality and I'm sure gender is coming up soon. It's not once.

It's never once.

>>54001418
>gay greeks
>not realistic
[laughing]

>>54001454

One other card. It's a pair of statues that people think are rival kings due to how long ago they lived, when they were in fact lovers.

>>54001456

Ok, where? If they did I wasn't noticable to me, I played in 90s and picked back up a year ago, since then I've been scanning through the time missed.

>>54001418
What, gay hoplites is something remarkable now? Never heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes?

>>54001397
>why must divirsity push everything to the extremes

Slippery slope is not a fallacy.

>>54001490

Elminster. Fucking Elminster. Ed Greenwood's Magical Realms had genderbending and lesbians since the TSR years.

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>>54001454
Take a wild guess (and look into the background of the first image).

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>>54001486
They're gay as shit. My friend joked about making a sexy gay man commander deck.
>partner

>>54001495
>>54001468
Totally valid. Still funny.

>>54001467
Gender already showed up with the Aetherborn, who are explicitly defined as singular-them-pronouned non-gendered things.

I honestly wish they had just described them as agender, it's what they are. It felt like it was trying way too hard.

>>54001418
>getting buttblasted about gays in a greek setting

What's it like, having a stick up your ass bigger than any dick could ever be?

>>54001495

Is that the same group Spoony talked about in some counter monkey?

Not saying "it can never happen" but I've been an adult for a while and know they tend to go so over board that it ruins it for the actual players to appease random people that don't even play.

>>54001397
they aren't demmanding any of us do anything about it
they aren't tweaking the rulrs so gay players have better chances of winning exclusively due to their sexual preference
the gay greek commander, the crossdressing mongolian warrior, and the STRONK black woman planeswalker feel a bit SJW but is not like they're turning all the frogs gay

>>54001518

>Gender already showed up with the Aetherborn, who are explicitly defined as singular-them-pronouned non-gendered things.

That makes sense with the Aetherborn. They legitimately don't have the qualities needed to have physical genders. It would be like being surprised that a Changeling is gender fluid.

I see you didn't get a good enough response in the lore thread, so you decided to make your own bait thread.

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This wasn't ever canon, right?

>>54001397
>Wizards didn't include the black and brown stripes that were forced in by BLM.
>In b4 BLM members start tweeting "muh oppression"

>>54001584
sadly, not yet

>>54001454
It's Canon. Honestly, I'm really hoping that Unstable will satirize this kind of behavior and ridicule this extreme emphasis on Diversity in a tasteful manner. Not outright hating on diversity as a concept, but demonstrating that overdoing it can have a hard impact on the story, similar to how a South Park episode might handle the concept.

It would actually be a really cool and useful way to use Unstable that would have a lasting impact on card aesthetic from now on, instead of it just being the "joke set."

Then again, they're probably already doing that with the Gay Interracial Roman Kings Power Couple.

>>54001561
>makes sense with the Aetherborn. They legitimately don't have the qualities needed to have physical genders
Neither did Karn and yet he was refereed to in male form, because people weren't throwing hissy fits about these things back then.

>>54001584

Nah, it wasn't. The artist got politely asked not to keep producing it due to 'Official MTG artist making art of Official MTG characters' being seen as it being official statements on the characters.

>>54001556
Frankly, Alesha at the very least had a good story article behind her too, so that was no problem at all.

>>54001561
Yeah, all in all I like the aetherborn. They're a cool monoblack race with an interesting gimmick and a pretty solid visual design.

This is nothing crazy guys, just a company doing run-of-the-mill virtue signalling. Calm down.
>You are now aware that literal faggots enjoy the game too
That's what the pride awareness thing is. You don't have to outfag the literal faggots by overreacting.

It's not like it's the BLM pride flag. Now that would be stupid and worth making a fuss over.

>>54001397
I don't understand. Is there something wrong with this? I don't get it. Is there a complaint being made?

>>54001584

No, Chandra only has the hots for Nissa, but she's too autistic to understand.

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>>54001397

>>54001602
>4th version of concept art for Chandra's Phoenix will never be canon

>>54001596
prevously MtG had been attacked by moralist, religious cunts who wanted demons out of the game because of satanic panic, then unglued came in with Infernal Spawn of Evil
so yeah i hope they make fun of SJW and their endless list of demmands about their feelongs not being hurt

>>54001644
You're being a bit disingenuous. MtG was never targeted on the whole demon/devil craze. They voluntarily stopped using the "demon" type for a while because they saw D&D taking flak and wanted to avoid it.

>>54001644

I'd prefer to see one more satirising both sides arguing about the politics of a children's card game.

>>54001584
Fuck, why is Lili so hot

>>54001600
karn was a singular being, the etherborn are a whole culture of creatures like that
i have no issue with them finding an identity apart from that elves, humans, and veds

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>>54001513

Whoa. I've seen this card a lot, have it, but clearly I need to read the flavor text more.

Kinda hard when if I only have a couple cards from some set. Still.

Ok. So it's been here for a while, but we all know the equality meme goes farther, has it gotten worse or has it moved from buried in the story to corporate virtue signalling.

If it's kept corporat then that's ok but...idk. I've seen many things I like be turned to shit because it became a victim popularity.

>>54001616

I watched some mtg YouTube video where he was fired for off color joke about tranny's and bathrooms, so it can and has reached into life. Just wondering if it has.

Guess it has been around longer than I thought, but as long as it's not over it's fine by me. But stronger signals are always a bad sign.

>>54001669
>luscious black hair
>creamy pale skin from moonlight
>cold to the touch

>>54001619
Homosexuality with relation dinosaurs is a sensitive topic. There's a theory that chief cause of their extinction was some sort of attitude shift leading them to have predominantly or perhaps even exclusively same-sex intercourse and basically dying out because they stopped to procreate.

You guys aren't complaining enough.

Complain harder.

The blacks and the gays and the womenz are coming to take away your toys.

Aren't you enraged?

Bitch harder, faggots. I'm making popcorn, and when I come back there had better be some fucking qq.

Honestly being gay sucks especially for males. I hate it. It seems so "cute" and ideal online but IRL its always awful.

>>54001518
Agender beings have been in MtG forever. The aetherborn were just the first they mentioned specifically to appeal to progressives.

>>54001728
I want a qt femboy plainswalker though
w/r or w/u

>>54001728
You're bad at this. Leave this sort of thing to me, please. We don't want you hurting yourself.

>>54001644
>Infernal Spawn of Evil was made as a joke against the evangelical Right that pushed against MTG for being pro-satanist.

You learn something new every day. I thought it was more because the artist only drew demons so they gave him something insane.

>>54001748
Not enough spite. Go harder. Dig deep.

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>>54001747
W/U. I want my Smug Shota Wizard-Cleric.

>>54001418
Thebes says hi.

>>54001696
There was at one point a big push to get the telephone pole screamers to join, but they realized about 6-8 months ago that the people who did all the complaining don't actually WANT to play, no matter how much they're pandered to.

So now it's almost 100% signaling.

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>>54001776
We both know how that one ends...

>>54001776
didn´t het Dark SSR Fate Episode reveal, that she actually changed bodies when she was still a little shota? I mean I´m fine, my headcanon is still her being a dirty old man in the body of a cute girl

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>>54001752

They took out the pentagram around when that happened.

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>>54001759
...GARY, YOU ARE GONNA FINISH YOUR DESSERT, AND YOU ARE GONNA LIKE IT!!!

>>54001728
Pathetic bait 2bh. Tumblr is weak.

>>54001811
Meow

>>54001418
Learn your fucking Greek:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epaminondas

>>54001418
The only thing that bothered me about this was how on the nose the art was for the statues with the touching swords.

Alright, I learned what I wanted and more, thanks all.

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This guy is totally femme and fabulous. And he's not subtle about it.
>darling

>>54001955
Can I suck your cock now?

>>54001556
Fix your fucking grammar. Otherwise I agree.

>>54001616
I believe that Gay Pride isn't inherently political, at least it shouldn't be. Casual and spontaneous (as in without outside force) insertions of homosexual characters is fine by me. Once it starts to get to actual pandering, which means that people are starting to become glorified/demonized for what they happen to be rather than their accomplishments, that is where I have a problem.
BLM is political since it deals with policing. BLM is also controversial since it has been associated with unsavory words and acts, but that's an inherent weakness with a hashtag movement.
I opposed Runescape's Pride Event on principle of them not asking the community first, which they traditionally have, but I wouldn't mind if they at least negotiated first and there was overreaction from the community, although that was handled poorly by the mods.

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>>54001968
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>>54001975

It's shouldn't be political but they make it's, the past few years it's gone from non to extremely so. BLM, anti-trump, feminists, all have taken it over.

Disgusting, it is.

>>54001955
>>54001968
Please, sempai. Just the tip. Just let me lick the tip.

>>54001964
They're not a man, they're a member of a race that's inherently genderless and has neither men nor women.

Yahenni is a flamboyant, sexless pollution elemental.

>>54001975
>I believe that Gay Pride isn't inherently political, at least it shouldn't be
>ignoring the supreme court ruling about gay marriage, which went against state's rights

Christ almighty, are all liberals/libertarians this out of touch with reality?

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Any other trans flavored cards?

>>54002002
Can I call you daddy before and after?

>>54001506
This

They're already in the process of rebranding pedophiles as "Minor attracted persons" and calling it an orientation instead of a mental illness

Just keep real world politics out of your games and marketing. How hard is that?

>>54002002
Trump is a little bitch man, tho.

/tg/ is full of so much shit on so many levels.

>>54002023
>ruling against a state's bigoted laws, which went against citizen's rights

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>>54002030
There ya go.

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>>54002081
>citizens rights

>>54002081

Marriage was fine, forcing churches to do was wrong, forcing gay cakes was wrong.

It sucks that when growing up I thought adults wouldn't be so skewed morally. Growing up meant growing and the majority seemed to choose not to.

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>>54001397
>Im not asking for "conservative values"
This reeks of "How do you do, fellow centrists?" Seriously, you get your panties in a twist over one tweet, and this is how you react? The Right and the Left can both fuck off, don't get your shit into my hobby. You're both fucking retarded, the only difference is in who's fucking things up now.

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I'm going to resist talking politics and just post funny cards.
>/femgen/'s namesake is banned in pauper

>>54002144
OP, can I rim your pristine boipuss?

>>54002080
That's what I've been saying. Of course, no one believes it, even if it comes straight from the, and I quote "attention-whoring namefag."

>>54002152
>I'm so much better than everyone else: The Post
Centrism is cancer.

>>54002144
OP you seem kind of tense, do you need a massage?

>>54002152

...well, I wanted to make sure people knew I wasn't just and average /pol/-nazi so I wanted to show what I was and wasn't ok with. I used OP for most the thread so kindly read it then shitpost.

there is this one tranny that keeps coming to play at my LGS and no one will play with it. shit is funny as fuck

>>54001397
Where's straight pride day?

>>54002058
Please do not use gendered slurs

>>54002058
>>>/pol/

>>54002168
Hi, Wayne. Can I fug your bunghole?

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>>54002182

Pfft...you haven't seen tense.

>>54002134
That's still one of my favorite pictures ever

>>54002152
>The Right and the Left can both fuck off, don't get your shit into my hobby.
It's too late for that. Every major company in the market has taken sides - unsurprisingly the side where the expect stronger customer base.

>>54002134
This just goes to show that everyone can be a bad human being, regardless of gender, race or sexuality.

So gender, race and sexuality really don't matter as much as alignment.

>>54001468
The Greeks actually despised gays like the rest of the ancient world. They tolerated bisexuals though.

You fags REALLY need to stop trying to press your ridiculous modern views onto people who didn't follow your stupid notions of immutable sexual orientation.

>>54002207
It's every day!

>>54002207
The other 364 days of the year.

>>54001397
Boogeymen implies that they are imaginary and deadly when in reality, SJW bullshit is everywhere, but it's usually only when you go looking for it that you find it.

As usual, /pol/ is right when they say that there are SJWs in the industry wanting to pander and virtue signal, but until it has a tangible impact on your own fun, then it's up to you to decide how sensitive you want to be about it.

>>54002144
>forcing churches
Link or shut the fuck up faggot

>>54002045
I love it, anon. The hotter this pot can become the sooner we'll cook ourselves alive. Embrace the pedophilia and relish being the supporter of something current generations of NuMales would find decadent and degenerate.

Let them feel as you've felt.

>>54002256

> tolerated

Yeah, tolerated. Like how it was extremely common for warriors to have a "shield boy" to accompany them on 10+ year conquests.

>>54002256
I've heard that greek homosexuality was really just rubbing a dick between the thighs

Yeah that reeks of "I've only done anal so I'm still a virgin" thinking but it's not quite homosexuality as we know it, either. Might help curb the spread of AIDS if it was, though

>>54002249
You mean the side that doesn't get attacked by the media and press.

We live in funny times, where the silent majority is watching the left fall apart, while the left stupidly believes in the lies they tell themselves.

>>54001397
Why is it so fucking hard to keep games and politics separate? I don't mind games having political themes, but good god...

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>>54002191
>..well, I wanted to make sure people knew I wasn't just and average /pol/-nazi
You sure showed them, you original thinker you.

>>54002045
>rebranding pedophiles as "Minor attracted persons"
>agitated afghan girl.jpg

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>>54002312
You have to make sure you're not a secret nazi by getting as many good boy points as possible through virtue signalling

>>54001418
The Greeks invented faggotry bro

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>>54001506
Slippery slope is not a fallacy as long as it's applied to something where bad things are set up to happen or already happening.

>>54002273
Agree. Until they start going the route of Ghostbusters '16, save your outrage for some other piece of "news" from the outrage machine.

>>54002353
Hah!

>>54002294
That wasn't that common, and you're deliberately confusing pederasty with homosexuality.

Even the guys who molested younger boys still were expected to fuck their wives, and adult males who "received" were often punished for committing a serious crime, with intense shame cast upon their name.

>>54002370
They just made it stylish

>>54002311
That might be part of the reason too, but it really feels like the new wave of "geek" goes hand in hand with "gueer". And that's their customers of tomorrow.

>>54002370
Doesn't ancient Egypt have a tale of two gods making wager who can get their semen into the other first? I mean, sure, it wasn't causal homosexuality, it was competitive, but still.

>>54002442

qeq, competitive homosexuality, today we call that the SF pride event.

>>54002370
Not at all, and this is just leftist propaganda at this point.

People fucked everything since time immemorial. That includes animals and objects, family members, children, corpses, animal corpses, the whole list.

But, "faggotry", or the concept of "homosexuality", or an immutable, inherent sexual orientation, is actually less than two hundred years old. "Sodomy" is far more ancient, and has been punished as a deviant sexual fetish by just about every ancient culture at one time or another, including the Greeks and Vedics that are often treated by left-leaning armchair historians as examples of being tolerant towards homosexuality.

>>54002467
OP, when will you let me slip my tongue between your sweet stretchy boipuss folds? Why do you keep ignoring me?

>>54002491
Gaia, stop it. You're scaring the children.

>>54002273
>SJW bullshit is everywhere, but it's usually only when you go looking for it that you find it.
what world are you living in? its literally smashed down my throat at every turn. i quite literally cannot even remember the last time i went through a day without hearing about tras or fag shit and how oppressed they are even though they all have literally the exact same rights as everyone else

>>54002253
Actually, the funny joke is that statistically, the majority of pedophiles are also homosexuals. It's a topic that's hard to address, but it's not something that should be ignored.

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>>54002491

It's not...."stretchy", that's pooky-nasty-no-no.

Also, you couldn't handle me. My balls would be beyond your capability, that shoot load fast and hot.

>>54002544
It's not my fault OP's such a fucking tease.
>>54002569
It's ok, baby. I can take it. Fill me with your juice and make me your cumdumpster. I wanna drown in your big ballsack.

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Can this be a gladiator thread now?

>>54001397
I just want to play a fucking fantasy card game without getting politics shoved down my throat.

I play this game to distract myself not to get more of "muh PoC" "muh Politics", save that shit for something else.

>>54002405
That's only if you actually believe in the what the media tries to ram down your throat. That's about as stupid as actually believing in the rest of their presented image of "the new geek", which is an awkward caricature of a human which is half hipster, half child.

>>54002628

Gladiatorship when? Duels are a man's right!

>>54002632
A couple months back a guy I occasionally look at who draws nothing but huge tiddies in various states of undress, drew a girl with smashed up cheetos on her cheeks making a caricature of a Trump face

Thanks, asshole. That's what I want when I'm looking for porn, to be reminded of politics.

>>54002197
:(

>>54002308
Every polis had its own definition of when it's not gay to fuck another man.

>>54002311
>We live in funny times, where the silent majority is watching the left fall apart, while the left stupidly believes in the lies they tell themselves.
Isn't this exactly what people opposed to women's suffrage were saying about it? We've gone over ninety years since then without society collapsing.

>>54002741
I couldn't help but think of California's new healthcare proposal when I read this

The one where they outright admit they can't figure out how to pay for it, but are doing it anyway

>>54002699
Baby baby, I have a friend who wants in on the action, but he's not up to the level that can handle your titanic ballsack. Can he just watch and learn divinity?

>>54002308
That was just pederasty, a related but completely different subject.

Pederasty was really the only form of homosexual act (keep in mind that a homosexual act is not the same thing as homosexuality) that was acceptable, and even then it primarily consisted of molestation without insertion. It comes from a heavily patriarchal culture that believed women to be secondary citizens, and anyone that "received" like a woman was considered inferior. Hence why homosexual acts were only permitted on children, who were likewise secondary citizens.

In general, ancient acts of homosexuality were almost exclusively performed as a manner of exploitation, and is hardly something that should be treated with anything other than pure contempt. Even contemporaries found the practice of pederasty abhorrent, and homosexual acts in general to be as loathsome as the majority of the world's populace finds them today, with adult males often being put to death if the receiving one didn't happen to be a slave.

>>54001397
Nothing inherently wrong with it, it's just kind off annoying. When people broadcast their beliefs or wear them on their sleeves I'm naturally annoyed. Like "Christian" Rock or a "Christian" Business. I have the same mild disgust I have to that when companies do things like this. They don't care about you, they want to sell product. I'd rather play the game than worry about politics. But I'm from a generation of nerds who didn't give two shit's about anything outside our geeky womb. And surprisingly enough, without pressure or any sense of "promotion," the nerd community was naturally diverse. Gays, conservatives, all races and genders. Go to any medium sized game store and you'll see different kinds of people having fun. Nerds congregate. Screw politics/social movements. Let's have fun.

>>54002741
That's because women were smart enough to vote with their men. The only time I'd really say women became a major power bloc in politics and society was the 2000s.

>>54002741
>women gain the right to vote
>less then ten years later, the worst depression in history occurs

I mean, shit.

Also, you're kind of performing several fallacies with that stretch of a statement right there.

>>54002792
I couldn't help but think of Trump's border wall when I read this.

The one where everyone admits that they can't figure out how to pay for it, but he insists on doing it anyway

>>54002829
>When people broadcast their beliefs or wear them on their sleeves I'm naturally annoyed. Like "Christian" Rock or a "Christian" Business. I have the same mild disgust I have to that when companies do things like this.
Fucking this

People think it's because the companies are pushing for things we don't like. A company really shouldn't have a fucking political opinion. Unless it leads to something darkly humorous like Google's pro-BLM tweet hours before the Dallas cop killings

>But I'm from a generation of nerds who didn't give two shit's about anything outside our geeky womb. And surprisingly enough, without pressure or any sense of "promotion," the nerd community was naturally diverse.
I'm reminded of the picture of a "Diversity in Gaming" conference next to a picture of EVO. One of them was filled with nothing but white people. I'll let you guess which one

>>54002829
>Nothing inherently wrong with it,

Oh, sweet summer child, you say some dumb things sometimes.

But, you're right in that no one wants to hear about your fetish and how you're trying to reformat society to make it easier to indulge in it.

>>54001596
>South Park
>Tasteful

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>>54002887
>>women gain the right to vote
>>less then ten years later, the worst depression in history occurs

>>54002919
The obvious answer to our swimming pool dilemma is to kill Nicholas Cage.

>>54002792
It's fucking hilarious. I'm really looking forward to them finally just collapsing under their own stupidity. There isn't enough money in the whole country to pay for the shit they want to hand out, let alone in that rotting cesspool of a state.

>>54002919
I'm just pointing out that society did collapse less than ten years after you said it wouldn't. And, you really shouldn't say anything about someone else using a fallacy, friend.

>>54002918
South Park is genuinely good satire because it shows that both sides of an argument are often moronic

>>54002944
When will people realise free healthcare gets in the way of natural selection?

Disease keeps the numbers down.

>>54002894
Let's be honest,that wall was a obvious lie and the simple fact that people still keep believing it will be completed makes humanity actively more stupid by the day.

>>54002045
In all fairness, the way that we treat pedophiles is a bit awfull. Granted, people who actually go ahead and diddle kids should get fucked up, however if we are going to call it a mental illness, we should at least bother to try and treat it.

>>54002950
> I'm just pointing out that society did collapse
Except it didn't. The depression was bad, sure, but it didn't destroy society.

>>54003010
Oh I agree. I feel bad for pedophiles until they actually try something and then they're human waste

>>54002829
>>54002899
>A company really shouldn't have a fucking political opinion.
As an accountant, I am obligated to disagree with you.

Under GAAP, a company does track intangible assets on their books. Virtue signalling (under the classical definition, not the politicized one that people throw around now) is absolutely a way to enhance your company's standing with its consumer base, and thereby to increase its value. Value-based management theory holds that the primary obligation of a company is to maximize shareholder value.

In toto, if a company believes that expressing or supporting a particular view will have a net positive effect on consumer relations, the company needs a reason NOT to do so.

>>54002950
>Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false.
>Fallacious arguments can arrive at true conclusions, so this is an informal fallacy of relevance.

>>54002944
> there isn't enough money in the whole country
The US, which is supposedly one of the richest countries in the world, doesn't have enough money to pay for a healthcare system for a single state? I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous. Plenty of nations in the developed world have universal healthcare systems. Some of them are substantially poorer than the US. The money is there, Americans just don't want to get their healthcare in the same way as the rest of the developed world. The issue is political, not fiscal.

>>54003013
"Society" is pretty resilient.

Basically, when the left kills itself, everyone else will just move on. It's a self fixing problem, like how 2/3's of homosexuals carry some significant STD and that ratio increases daily, and the Left actually does its best to keep these statistics quiet, making the situation worse for themselves.

The Left's worst enemy is itself, and the worst thing that could happen to them is getting what they want.

>>54003073
> Plenty of nations in the developed world have universal healthcare systems. Some of them are substantially poorer than the US.
Bzzt. Wrong. Name a single country that has healthcare as good as the US that isn't either drowning in debt or subsidized by the US.

>>54001397
It's pride week in Seattle right now. WotC headquarters is in Renton Washington, only a short drive away.

As you may or may not know, Seattle takes it's gay pride pretty seriously, so pride week basically becomes a week long festival for the entire area. WotC is just joining in. Nothing underhanded here except for
>lol hasbro

>>54002829
>When people broadcast their beliefs or wear them on their sleeves I'm naturally annoyed. Like "Christian" Rock or a "Christian" Business. I have the same mild disgust I have to that when companies do things like this. They don't care about you, they want to sell product.
Fucking this. Given the opportunity, I'm going to pick the more ethical option if I know what it is, but if someone tells me that it's a Christian business, my response is "Yes, and...?"
I totally agree. You shouldn't be aligned with a political or religious affinity unless it's literally part of your business- like if you make crosses or Nativity scenes or whatever.
I ain't having that shit, just let me play my dice games.

>>54003073
>Plenty of nations in the developed world have universal healthcare systems. Some of them are substantially poorer than the US.

Name some that aren't collapsing

>the UK

people consistently vote in favour of parties that want rid of it

The world is changing. People want to save their nations.

>>54003073
>doesn't have enough money to pay for a healthcare system for a single state?
The state itself is paying for it, and in spite of supposedly being one of the largest economies in the world, independent of the US, freely admits it can't afford the system it's putting into place

>The money is there
It's being siphoned off wherever it can be by the insurance companies

>>54003081
> The Left's worst enemy is itself, and the worst thing that could happen to them is getting what they want.
The same can be said of the right, taking away healthcare from the very people that put them in power and poisoning their water. The right works very hard to ensure that its own supporters don't live as long.

>>54003010
>>54003024
As a proud child rapist I find these posts very offensive.

>>54001397
>>54001418

Enjoy your (you)s

>>54003123
>Name some that aren't collapsing
is Slovakia developed world yet?

>>54003139
The Right's biggest mistake is desperately trying to stop abortion and as someone who votes for them, I really wish they would stop

>>54003158
>cyka blyat

fuck no

>>54003081
>The Left's worst enemy is itself
I mean, that's true in general of politics. Let's not pretend that the Right-elected president isn't struggling with the Right-leaning legislature.

The problem isn't Right, Left, or Center. It's the slow death of compromise as an acceptable option. It used to be that people actually understood "Right" and "Left" as gradients, rather than absolutes. And that meant that some of the Left could work with some of the Right and everyone would get some of what they wanted. Now, both sides are reduced to shrieking children screaming about how the other one isn't being fair to them, while the Centrists try to smug their way to relevance. And, if you're on either side but don't toe the appropriate party line, you're cast out.

>>54003123
> people consistently vote in favour of parties that want rid of it
Ask people in the UK if they want to get rid of the NHS. The most common answer that you will get is "Hell no."

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/public-satisfaction-nhs/bsa-survey-2014
> Overall public satisfaction with the NHS increased to 65 per cent in 2014 – the second highest level since the British Social Attitudes survey began in 1983. Dissatisfaction with the service fell to an all-time low of 15 per cent.

>>54003170
>desperately trying to stop abortion
that's what buys the favor of religious nutjobs, and religious nutjobs are force to reckon with

>>54003170
>>54003205
Can you take your Pro-Death bullshit over to /pol/?

>>54003182
no cyka, kozojeb

>>54003055


That is why I only buy the few colorless cards from new sets I want and buy complete sets from 10-20 years ago.

I don't want to give them money they don't deserve because "this intangible asset" thinks they're stupid and stuff.

>>54003149

I saw it on Twitter and thought it was topical. Enjoy your silence as you with away alone in life surrounded by friend(s) and family that have no idea who you really are.


> Pic related, I want cool basic lands, starter 1999 seems alright but before I buy, what's others favorites? Pic is best.

>>54003192
> the Right-leaning legislature.
> implying cuckservatives like Ryan or McConnell are "right-leaning"
> implying the problem isn't with the liars who said they wanted to repeal obummercare but now refuse to back a full repeal

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>>54003230

Forgot pic

>>54003073
The problem is that federal law prohibits state governments or federal programs like medicare/medicaid from freely negotiating prices. Private industry basically gets to name their price, and it's way too fucking high to provide healthcare to much of the population.

>>54003158
If it isn't, then the US isn't either, since Slovakia beats the US on a bunch of metrics.

>>54003010
>the way that we treat pedophiles is a bit awfull.
No it's not. Hell, we're too nice to pedophiles. Jack off to shotacon or lolicon, have your penis torn off. Fuck children, get fucked by a horse on live television.

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>>54003139
> taking away healthcare from the very people that put them in power
Nope. The cuts on the table right now specifically target the moochers that dims try to buy with gibs like medicaid. And it's about time, the coastal cities have been getting away with breeding huge numbers of shitskins in order to inflate their vote totals for way too long. Something needs to change to reign in their numbers, and cutting off the flow of free stuff is a good start.

>>54003170
Mistakes of the Right:
>Trying to control other people's personal lives

Mistakes of the Left:
>Trying to force you to deal with other people's personal lives

There is no reason to ban gay marriage, just as there is no reason to require that every church be willing to host it.

There is no reason to ban abortions, just as there is no reason to ever allow one to be performed without the mother's consent.

There is no reason to give a single goddamn shit who is or is not using a bathroom. You're in a goddamn stall. If, at any point, you are not in a goddamn stall and are invading someone else's space, that is a problem regardless of your genital configuration.

There is no reason to require that companies pass over more-qualified applicants in order to hire less-qualified ones who happen to belong to a marginalized group, AS LONG AS the system leading up to that point has provided ample opportunity for members of those groups to reach the same level of qualification. Note that this one is tricky because demographics and a variety of other factors can easily result in skewed numbers on who actually has access to resources, and it can be argued that getting women and minorities into the higher-paying jobs NOW will eventually result in evening out the unequal starting position in future generations. Personally, I think subsidies at the education level are a better approach, but good luck getting politicians to increase spending on that.

>>54002045

>not knowing it was a 4chan trolling attempt

> literally a politics thread on page 1
And people say that /pol/ posting isn't a problem.

>>54003355
You're so fucking Left it's fucking disgusting. That, and you casually handwave thousands of reasons as "no reason."

>>54003219
I will never understand why I am the only person I know who is in favor of both abortion and the death penalty. They both lead to huge wastes of resources supporting an unnecessary life.

Yet, for some reason, everyone I know who's pro-abortion is anti-death penalty, and everyone who's pro-death penalty is anti-abortion.

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>>54003366

But it's politics AND MTG.

.....AND mtg...

>>54003366
Wouldn't be surprised if everyone that posted on this thread gets banned for the day, except OP who'll get a three day ban.

>>54003397
Give a reason to ban gay marriage that has any basis behind it other than "it hurts my feelings"

>>54003401I'm pro-Abortion yet think it's killing babies and pro-death penalty

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>>54003321
I am now obliged to post this.

>>54003355
> just as there is no reason to require that every church be willing to host it.
>just as there is no reason to ever allow one to be performed without the mother's consent.

Those aren't real issues.

>There is no reason to ban gay marriage,
>There is no reason to ban abortions,

That's where you're wrong, friendo.

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>>54002256
>The Greeks actually despised gays like the rest of the ancient world. They tolerated bisexuals though.
Nope! To start with attitudes towards sexuality in the ancient world varied immensely from culture to culture. Some societies held homosexuality as taboo, others did not. Some saw it as a sin or frivolous while others saw it as camaraderie or as separate from heterosexual activity. Some societies, especially in the Mediterranean, held androgyny as a divine aspect and had priest(esses) we could loosely define as """"transgender"""".

In Greece the prevailing view on homosexuality was semi accepting. It was seen as feminine and therefore bad to take dick, but delivering it was masculine and therefore cool. Soldiers sometimes participated in homosexual acts. It was popularly conceived as being non-equivalent with a male-female pairing.

Were you thinking of Rome? Because there they had more hard line stances with taking a penis like some kind of SISSY. But also galli priestesses so heck, "despise" doesn't quite cut it.

>>54003421
Can you give a reason for it beyond "feelings"?

>>54003421
Marriage is the state subsidizing the raising of children. Gays cannot, or at least generally won't, reproduce, therefore no subsidy. As for love, there's no need to legislate feelings like that.

>>54003401

Abortion means wasted money through divorce and mismanaged children. Force women to take care of kids without a lottery winning divorce and she will have to do it right.

With divorce, everyone loses.

>>54003409

Yeah, keeping it on topic and related to /tg/ is VERY naughty.

>>54003457
Nope, which is why there is no reason for a government to either ban it or require it. One unnecessarily restricts a group, the other unnecessarily protects them.

Let the fags get married, but make them do the legwork on finding someone who will actually do it.

>>54003465
>Marriage is the state subsidizing the raising of children
The funny thing is that nothing about a straight couple getting married requires them to either have children or express plans to conceive in the future. If marriage is really about kids, you'd think that there'd be some requirements on that front, regardless of sexual orientation.

>>54003468
>Abortion means wasted money through divorce and mismanaged children
And no abortion means STATE money wasted on supporting kids who are put into the foster care system, or paid out in welfare.

You're also spuriously implying that a man will never leave a woman once she becomes pregnant. It hardly seems fair to discuss "forcing" women to take care of kids, when men can skip out at any time.

>>54003448
The Greek prevailing view on "homosexuality" was that it didn't exist. The concept of a man being innately and immutably attracted to another man simply didn't occur to them, with "sexual preference" being the closest thing they might understand in comparison to the modern notion of "sexual orientation".

And, the prevailing view was that homosexual acts were shameful and an indulgence. Still, even though there were many laws put in place to punish homosexual acts (including laws in Sparta punishing soldiers who continued to practice pederasty with a ward who had grown too old), though how frequently they were enforced remains speculated.

In general, the notion of Greeks being favorable towards homosexuals is ahistorical, and fails to appreciate the distinct differences between their culture and modern terminology. At best, they could be considered to have tolerated homosexual acts, but to a certain degree lower than that they tolerated acts like infanticide and having sex with animals.

For me I am okay with it as long as it doesn't get in the way of the story...(wait did I just admit I care about MtG "lore")
Like Kynaios and Tiro are fine because "Hollywood Greece" would have well,'gay couples.

On the other hand, I fell like the Inquisition of Avacyn would purge the lesbian couple in SoI

As for Chandra and Nissa, I always assumed the Gate watch had orgies soo.

>>54003468
You knew what you were doing, so have a (You) because I got to admit, people are biting like sharks to chum.
>>54003437
If people are watching rekt threads and laughing their asses off while watching someone being sawed in half alive, then we can consider them sociopaths. Will they do it in real life? Personally, if they could get away with it, they would. That's how I see the so called 2D argument with pedophiles. How long before you start jacking off to 3d models, and then finding actually child pornography, and finally go after a child that tickles your fancy. Three weeks later, they find burnt children bones in a dumpster.

>>54003468
>Force women to take care of kids without a lottery winning divorce and she will have to do it right.
>Implying that most abortion-related divorces aren't the result of the man pressuring his wife to abort
>Implying that men never threaten to leave unless she gets an abortion
>Implying he didn't leave anyway a few years later
>Implying I don't still feel guilty over agreeing to the procedure

>>54003617
> And no abortion means STATE money wasted on supporting kids who are put into the foster care system, or paid out in welfare.
That's an argument in favor of getting rid of foster care and welfare, not one for abortion.

>>54003106
Most nations, actually. The only thing America is good at is treating cancer, our medical system is worthless otherwise.

>>54001397
>Im not asking for "conservative values" and all races have been present since the beginning so why can't it just stay that way, why must divirsity push everything to the extremes?
because lefties have a form of ethical ambition. every human being needs to feel special and look down on others. nazis look on othe races. lefties strive for ethical supremacies and create victims and villain so that they can play robin hood. SJWs need a cause to feel special; they are constantly LARPing to be heroes, fighters for a noble cause against the evil right.

tl;dr = diversity is just an excuse to play robin hood

t. been green for 15 years in my youth

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>>54003668
Well, then you're back at wasted money through a shitload of mismanaged children.

We could allow abortion and also cut foster care and welfare. Which would be great.

>>54003529
>Nope, which is why there is no reason for a government to either ban it or require it. One unnecessarily restricts a group, the other unnecessarily protects them.

But there's plenty of reasons to ban it, starting with the fact that gays getting married doesn't make any sense, and really only seems to be pursued for the false idea that it would somehow make people more tolerant of their fetish-dominated lifestyle. That, and while people talk about slippery slope being a fallacy, Canada rushed out legislation to legalize bestiality.

That's largely why they weren't satisfied with "civil unions."

The good thing is that even though the Supreme Court performed an extraordinary breach of legal conduct in legalizing gay marriage, public opinion actually worsened afterwards, rather than improving.

>>54003680
Then name one. One that isn't drowning in debt or subsidized by the US.

The fact is that America is the reason medical research happens. In other countries, there isn't much profit to be made in it. You think people do this stuff out of the goodness of their heart? Don't be naive, in the real world medical research happens because private companies want to make a profit. Because they can profit in the US, the rest of the world gets to free-ride off of all of those developments. But without the US, there's no incentive for people to do medical research. Modern medicine exists because the US hasn't crippled their healthcare system through nationalization like everyone else has.

>>54001468
>>54001495
>>54001529
>>54001785
>>54001853
>>54002370
you are all giant dick-fondling faggots yourselves for missing the point: they're not trying to represent greece accurately, they are trying to push their "values" on you.

this is a reeducation attempt. at that's a problem.

>>54003653
The relation between consumption of fiction media and actually engaging in the activity yourself is flimsy at best. Were kids reading Tom Sawyer more likely to become tramps?

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>>54001418
>tfw it's my main commander because there are literally no other Ink Treader legends and you don't want to play rainbow because most of the Legends are even more shit.

>>54002168
the problem is that yoi yourself bring enough shit in here, so finger-pointing at the rest of the board isn't going to cut it. start with yourself.

>>54003758
They're not even anywhere close to representing Greece accurately though.

Aside from them absolutely misconstruing the notion of how Greeks tolerated homosexuality, the idea of two gay kings is so stupid, that anyone who presented it even as a historical possibility would have been ridiculed even by gay historians.

>>54002108
How exactly?

>>54002263
>>54002267
no, it's not. it is taken as a given because straight people don't feel threatened by homosexuals. if they did, you'd have more influential straight people organizations and events specifically dedicated to being straight, as a push back against other sexual orientations.

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>>54003813
It's a fantasy game, get over it /pol/

>>54003703
There's no historical data on what anyone in the House of Beaumont looked like. They could have been black, though it's unlikely if only because "hey, black!" would have been a more likely nickname for his father then "check out that fucking beard"

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>>54003623
A fair series of observations that is actually some pretty made up stuff. Achilles and Patroclus happened to exist in a pretty popular story. Plato mentioned them and even lesbians in his Symposium. The Sacred Band of Thebes also existed, obviously. I already mentioned a long standing usage of androgynous priest(esse)s. Also Sappho, can't forget her. She was cute. We can zoom out a little and also take a peek at Alexander the Great fucking Hephaestion in his boypussy if you want.

I can also just remind you that I never disagreed with many ancient cultures not viewing homosexuality as current popular western thinking does. Sexual attitudes have also varied depending on when and where you are and who you're talking about.

>>54003769
Then my question to you is why are you jacking off to lolicon? You can find flat chested women, you can find midgets, so why are you attracted to 2D drawing of children being fucked?

Why haven't the mods deleted this thread?

This is the third /lgbt/ and /pol/ thread in the last three days. You'd think they'd stop giving OP the benefit of the doubt and just ban him already.

>>54003798
I don't bring Shit. I point out Shit that already exists. I was already doing this before I started namefagging, trying to derail shitty threads, or give them some modicum of entertainment.

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>>54003877
Because I like it? Why are you so judgmental about what people do in their free time.

>>54001397
No, you're just crazy. Get over it.

>>54003877
>Implying I masturbate to loli hentai
I'm reading it for the plot.

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>>54003881
Maybe if they stopped shoving cultural marxism into games people would be less upset about it.

>>54003752
Most American healthcare is socialized already. The majority of healthcare is provided by Medicare and Medicaid.

>>54003888
>I don't bring Shit.
what every shitposter claims

>>54003837
that's the same argument that is made when it is about representation of PoC in games. Nice hypocrisy you have going

>>54003864
Achilles and Patrolucus weren't gay though. And you're misconstruing the message of the Symposium, and also how gays and lesbians were considered dramatically different. In general, lesbians were simply not regarded.

Also, nobles sexually exploiting people (and animals) was one of their many, many indulgences. Nobles did many things the general populace didn't like, and sexual deviancies were one of the many complaints philosophers and other nobles laid against them.

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>>54003932
Right, and it's my fault this thread exists, right? I'm the one posting the /pol/ posts, then trying to derail them or bring actual discussion to them... because that's my meme, right? Wayne is to blame for everything.

>>54004010
Please mods, just ban this attention whore already. If you don't, he's literally going to shitpost himself to death.

>>54003922
the problem is that the left is hearing
>if i win i get to kill your whole family
all the time, whenever someone strongly disagrees with their views.

they have a need to create a sheriff of nottingham and find some poor, supposedly oppressed orphans and widows - so that they can play robin hood. it's pure ambition for ethical supremacy.

>>54003922
Remember Ubisoft at E3 having that whole spheal over how important Diversity is to them?

I think I can count on one hand the number of people excited that Beyond Good and Evil 2 replaced Jade with a random black girl with a stupid 'fro

>>54003897
Was actually trying to be judgmental, more morbidly curious. Yes, I dislike pedophiles and loli/shotacons because I have my reasons, such as you have your reasons as to why you jack off to lolicon. I was more wondering why would you beat your penis to 2d children, then anything else. Your image is humorous, I'll give you that. However, who in the fuck plays sports video games? Really, what's the fucking point of them?

>>54004096
Why are the people who are obviously correct and virtuous with the right opinions using violence to shut down demonstrations and debates?

>>54004010
>>Wayne is to blame for everything.
>implying that this faggot is to blame for nothing
nice try, memelord

>>54004126
I didn't hear people giving a shit about people burning Obama effigies or people threatening to kill him and his family, since it's free speech. I do hear people throwing a shit fit when someone burns a trump effigy or threatens to kill him and his family, because that's not free speech.

>>54004228
> people burning Obama effigies or people threatening to kill him and his family
I'll take "things that never happened" for 400.

>>54002280
>2+2=4
>link it faggot

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>>54004004
>Achilles and Patrolucus weren't gay though
Tell it to Plato? And I never said he held them up as being equivalent, but in the modern western world we certainly do. I just wanted you to know that Plato utilized them as a male-male example of love and that they were popular heroes regardless. Lesbians being largely ignored doesn't exactly erase Sapphos' work or her place as a symbol of female-female pairings in the Hellenistic world. Whenever that kind of symbol might have needed.

Also I don't believe Alexander the Great earned any major disapproval for him and Hephaestion. Again largely because of the long standing tradition of homosexuality relationships occurring in the military.

Do you have anything else? I've shown plenty of evidence for not only awareness of same sex couplings but also approval for them in certain context. What examples of large spread homophobic attitudes in ancient Greece do you have? I'm curious to know where this is all coming from.

>>54004228
>I didn't hear people giving a shit about people burning Obama effigies or people threatening to kill him and his family, since it's free speech.
You didn't?

The Left was bitching even before he took office that Billybob was going to pop him with his murderstick

>>54004135
Curses! You've foiled my evil plot, no I have to go masturbate to my animated Porn and non-Porn until I come up with a new, brilliant plan. I'm so offended, really, and this has left a lasting impact on my ego because Wayne is totally a real person and not a persona I adopt as one would any other PC character.

>>54004060
Like I said, mods are gonna need to change the way Bans work first before bans can hold me. Besides, if I'm continually posting in the thread, lowering the quality, it's usually a sign the thread was Shit from the start and needs to go. I've reported the thread just like you have. It's what I do with most shitpost threads I reply to.

>>54004228
Because obummer was a criminal who had American citizens executed by drone without any due process or checks on his power. Tyrants like that should be opposed.

Trump, on the other hand, basically hasn't done anything. Yet the left is attacking people in the streets screaming "BUT IT WAS HER TURN!!!!" because of how insanely butthurt they are that the American people rejected their shrill hag.

>>54002490
>I don't know the first thing about the ancient world but let me lecture you about how they conformed to my political views

>>54001418
What is this one about? Is it about the "his or her hand" or the black dude in Spartan armor, or the fact they are literally gay for each other?

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>>54004339
>"his or her hand"
This part personally triggers me. Don't they know that there are more than two genders? The nerve of some people.

>>54004339
A combination of the second and third.
People were already really angry about blacks being in Theros, and then they threw in a pair of gay kings on top of that.

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>>54004308
It was more about role, status, and prudence than gender. Being penetrated as a free man was highly problematic, as was excessive sex of any kind.

So being a twink faggot was always looked down upon. Even in Greece.

>>54001397
Are they calling gays fantastical creatures?

>>54004249
Picture of Pastor Terry burning Obama, and Clinton, effigies because of gay rights. It's the American way to protest.
>>54004261
No I didn't, but then again I'm a hermit and I'm Canadian. I know, now my opinions are worse then Wayne's. I thought that was how Americans are. They push their free speech and protest rights to the extreme, but that's how they do it.
>>54004286
Yes, Obama is a criminal, same as both Clintons, and same as Trump.Yes, trying to impede multiple FBI investigations about an certain country that actually did get into your voting system is considered abuse of power.. All politicians are criminals and you're a retard if you think other wise.

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>>54004249
My apologizes, I forgot to put the picture on. I shouldn't be trying to talk in multiple threads at the same time.

>>54004530
>that actually did get into your voting system
That's absolute horseshit and you know it

The RUSSIANS hysteria is over them supposedly being the ones who showed us just how awful the Democrat party was

>>54004010

Haha, SAVED.

anti-SJWs are a bunch of fucking pansies that get triggered by anything

>>54004530
> trying to impede multiple FBI investigations about an certain country that actually did get into your voting system
To date, not a single scrap of proof has been presented that backs up the absurd "Russian meddling" storyline. It's nothing but an invention of the MSM aimed at delegitimizing the President just because they didn't like him.

I'm glad you admit that obummer and the Clintons are criminals. And yes, politicians are criminals by nature. Trump isn't a politician, and you haven't given any reason to think he's a criminal like the democrat party.

>>54003758
But Epaminondas was a real historical person who was the effective ruler of a Boetian rise to power, who has an elite corps of all-faggot soldiers, and who was himself an out-and-out faggot who never married or had female lovers but had two male lovers one of which he died a heroic death with.

Like, this may be exceptional but it actually happened in history. People criticized him for not having children and he told them to look at his war record and called his battles his children. I think the guy talking about how the modern conception of homosexuality in no way resembles the historical one is actually right, but he's using it to downplay homosexual acts in the culture and Epaminondas was just an out-and-out fucking homo.

So that MtG card does not really trigger me or make me fret about value-pushing, because if anything the real like Greek gay autarch was about a million times fucking gayer than the card is.

>>54004713
>>54004713
>>54004713

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>>54001397
Thank Haruhi I never got into mtg. I always smelled faggotry from that shitty game. Now I'm proven right. Shitty rules and dumb structure attracts shitty and dumb people, who would've guessed? It's just pokemon with a fantasy layer of paint. Should've stuck with yu-gi-oh.

kill all fags

>>54004810
Yu-gi-oh as a whole is a bigger artistic abomination than even >>54001418 could ever be

>>54004861
Find ONE(1) black gay lover from a former white nation in Yugi, go ahead, I will wait.

>>54001397
To borrow a quote from old movie: the only winning move is not to play.

>>54001397
Why do I have to pretend that I'm offended by this? All the outrage in this thread seems exhausting.

>>54004873
This, pack it up MTG boys, your card game is dead.

>>54004872
>Greece
>former white nation

>>54004909
>ancient Greece before Xerxes raped them into mudmen
>not a white nation
Pick one, famalam

>>54001397
lol you're triggered over a fucking Twitter

>>54001397
I didn't know homosexuals were extreme.

>>54005051

Been to a pride parade? If no then shuddup.

>>54005092
No But i've fucked several men in the ass so i've seen a lot more than you have.

>>54005092
Don't worry, /pol/. Your (((President))) is just a meme and it will go the way other memes. The right is on its dying throes and now they want to take down the plane with no survivors. But life will find a way.

Enjoy your daughter fucking a black man

>>54005142
>joy your daughter fucking a black man
Why do you hate yourself so much?

>>54005142
>implying autistic poltards have children.

>>54005178
>Why do you hate yourself so much?
He doesn't...

...because he's the black man

>>54005124

> several

Pfthahah, aww... you's fresh meat still.

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>>54004872
Best I could find, he is white. But he is also an android.

>>54005092
>Been to a pride parade? If no then shuddup.

Uh, wait...are you saying that YOU have been to a pride parade? What were you doing there?

>>54005124
> being proud of the fact that you're a disgusting bugchaser
People like you are the reason why America has started to realize how awful faggots really are. Keep up the good work, that way the left will die even sooner and we can dispense with the pretense that your kind are good for anything but kindling.

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>>54005265
>implying i'm a leftist or a bugchaser.
I refuse to have sex with black people for the sole reason that they have extremely high rates of HIV and other STDs. you sound exactly like the leftists who think donald trump is going to destroy america.

>>54005330
Did they use black men for the suit? If so that's hilarious

>>54005344
No, they just tint the image.

>>54001397
>Why won't people censor their beliefs for my comfort.

Why don't you take some responsibility for yourself. It's not everyone else's fault that your opinions are incompatible with Western culture. I'm sure Saudi Arabia has some great diversity-free card games for you.

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>>54005330
> admitted faggot
> not a bugchaser
Pick one.

Sodomites have such a high rate of STD infection and transmission that there isn't any practical difference between willingly fucking another dude and intentionally trying to pick up STDs. Outcome is the same.

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>>54005383
Why should we support mental illnesses like homosexuality?

>>54003457
Tax benefits.

>>54005383
The left is the one engaging in censorship by refusing to allow anything other than what pushes their "diversity" angle as aggressively as possible.

>>54005436
Why should we provide any support to people who spread disease, abuse children, and refuse to do anything productive because they want to indulge in a fetish-centric lifestyle?

>>54005383
>Why won't people censor their beliefs for my comfort.
>then proceeds to attempt to censor the anon out of his country and to Saudi Arabia
Damn, the irony here is rich, rich as fuck.

>>54005488
You mean like the whole human race?

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>>54005422
I love /pol/ ! Always so resourceful. Have a cool Japanese island as reward.

>>54005422
Hoho, I remember this bad meme.

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>>54005524
Fuck, wrong image.

>>54004259
They were love, but not sexual love. And, by modern sensibilities, they're still not homosexuals. Two men can love each other like brothers (or in their case, cousins), something homos forget.

And Alexander was despised by his Greek contemporaries and relied on Persian support in his later career, and would likely have been assassinated if he hadn't died early.

>>54004454
>what is pederasty

That's Rome you're thinking of.

>>54003633
I want Chandra, Nissa, and Lili to form a jund daisy chain

>>54005544
is the mound at the center manmade? looks pretty cool.

>>54005523
> everyone spreads disease, abuses children, and refuses to be productive because they think their fetish is more important
This is what leftists actually believe.

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>>54005488
>/pol/ in charge of not making strawman arguements.

>>54005627
Its cool until you notice the designated suicide road.

>>54005673
He's right, you know.

>>54001397
>Well...are we crazy or ARE WE CRAZY (for not standing up before it was too late).
It's the Overton window. Society has jerked so left, that borderline radical leftist has become the new normal. Those who demand what was normal 50 years ago are now right wing nutjobs.

>>54005692
Yeah, then it gets awesome.

Wait for the new Un-Set. The cards will let your opponent fuck you in the ass. Make you blow your opponent's dick.

I've seen them.

>>54005445
There's no censorship, it's just market forces.

People love having their own beliefs preached to them. They love having their opinions confirmed. They react like OP when they hear things they don't like. So much popular media espouses liberal values, and people buy it, because that's what they like to hear.

You can bullshit up whatever little theory that helps you live with the fact that your ideas can't survive in a free market, but the facts are plain to see. Companies fear losing the liberal audience, because it's larger and worth more money to them.

Left-wing ideas are mass market, and right-wing ideas are niche market. Liberals have more market power, so they can afford to drop media, because they have plenty of alternatives.

>>54005673
see >>54005422

>>54005673
Yet /pol/ is still right, as usual.

>>54005725
well yeah. Like how 50 years ago if you called for human sacrifices and witch burning people would think you're insane.

>>54005601
Try actually reading a book faggot.
>https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/homosexuality/

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>>54005762
>Human sacrifice is in the same category as refusing to call men who cut their own dicks off women

>>54004259
Socrates explained to Phaedrus, the character who embodies "dumb and wrong", that he was both dumb and wrong soon after. (well, to be fair, he's more of the character that embodies youthful ideas, but generally in Plato's dialogues there's always caricatures of people used as foils against Socrates's wisdom).

The whole dialogue is Plato laying down his distinctions of love, including the concept named after him, the idealized form that doesn't involve either blood relations or physicality.

>>54005742
That's still censorship.
> Companies fear losing the liberal audience, because it's larger and worth more money to them.
Liberals threaten to boycott businesses that offend them, intimidating them into silence at best, or outright pandering at worst.

Free speech is more than just a legal protection, it's a moral and cultural ideal. It requires that people be accepting of different views. Instead, liberals insist that their way is the only correct way and that everything must be made to serve their idea of "progress." That's moral censorship.

>>54005750
>"One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment. "

>>54005499
You don't know what censorship means.

I'm just trying to provide a solution to OP's sore feelings. The problem is his ideas aren't commercially viable in the English-speaking world, so maybe a solution would be to look at other cultures that are closer to his world view.

>>54003468
>Force women to take care of kids without a lottery winning divorce and she will have to do it right

You are incredibly naive.

>>54005816
>not all pedos
>not even pedos want to be called homos
Kek

>>54005770
Confirmation bias at work. Faggot.

>>54005834
> The problem is his ideas aren't commercially viable in the English-speaking world
See >>54005799
The reason they "aren't commercially viable" is because the left throws a fit and starts burning down neighborhoods whenever someone says something they don't like, so every is constantly walking on eggshells for fear of offending them. That's censorship through threats.

>>54005834
No, you don't know what censory means

>hey, you are free to be a communist here, but if I, the leader on the nation, know that you are one, I will torture you to death
This is akin to
>You are free to oppose my ideals, but if you are a right wing polposter, and I find out you are one, you are gonna get it good, your business will be boycotted, I will run a smear campaign against you, and I will attempt to financially kill you unless you go back to Saudi Arabia, where you belong
And this is censorship, you stupid, American cuck.

>>54005834
>it's not commercial viable
(((I wonder why.)))

>>54003295
And spain beats slovakia. Consistently. In pretty much every fucking aspect.

Spain is known as the limiter of "if your country is worse than spain, you live in a non-country" soooo...

>>54001397
>signaling minorities
How MtG has fallen. Good thing I dropped them around the Mythic kikery.

>>54005834
A consumer who purchases something like a card game shouldn't have to deal with people forcing political beliefs into it after it's been established, and the current media trend of "attack anyone who doesn't show support for our far-Left ideas" is what's leading people to turn to alternative sources for their information and discussion.

It's why /pol/ exploded, and why Trump won.
And, it's why Leftists like yourselves think you're not a shrinking minority that's slowly losing its power as the pendulum swings back.

>>54004728
>not a single scrap of proof
> numerous intelligence agencies all confirm the Russians got into our systems, and further reports are showing just how far

You fucks are delusional, holy shit.

>>54005799
>It requires that people be accepting of different views
No, it really doesn't. The problem is that toleration by necessity involves an arbitrary rejection component. So the only way to put these concepts like "free speech" and "toleration" into practice is through legal protection based on what does and does not cause harm: which includes taking away others' rights, not just physical or financial harm.

And you're doing that thing where you treat all "liberals" as one monolithic bloc. It pisses me off regardless of what group is on the receiving end. It cheapens the whole process.

Is the word "Shoals" a synonym from the word "shore"?

I mean the definition of shoals is shallow water, but does this mean the word "shoals" is what you call to the water when you are in a beach? So shoal is basically just beach water, right? am I getting this word right? Or is Shoal a specific type of shore?

Non English speaking here by the way, help a nigga out

>>54005952
Wrong, that's Greece

>>54005799
>Liberals threaten to boycott businesses that offend them

Why should I play a card game that I find offensive? I'm not buying shit I don't like. That's how the marketplace works. You're the ones that wanted things this way in the first place. Don't come crying to us because the results don't go your way.

>Free speech is more than just a legal protection, it's a moral and cultural ideal.

Right, and that's what we have. You can say whatever you want, and people can say whatever they want back. You seem to believe that you're owed some artificial redress for the fact that in a marketplace of ideas, your shit doesn't sell. It doesn't work that way.

>It requires that people be accepting of different views.

OP made this thread because a card game has an opinion he doesn't like.

>>54005991
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=shoal

I love finding out where words came from and etymonline is a pretty good resource, try it out.

>>54006094
Good website. Thanks!

>>54006071

You missed the point, you're stupid.

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>>54005976

>numerous intelligence agencies all confirm the Russians got into our systems, and further reports are showing just how far

>Russians got into our systems

>our systems

They hacked into our mainframe and compromised the hash server protocol!

>>54005857
speaking of which, from the same article
"The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted). "

>>54005976
> numerous (((intelligence agencies))) all confirm
Well then you should have no problem coming up with proof. So where is it?

>>54006071
>OP made this thread because a card game has an opinion he doesn't like.

You mean that it had an opinion forced into it, despite that opinion not only being demonstrably wrong on a hundred different counts, but also looking ridiculous in the context of the game?

"Modern" left ideas are so absurd, to try to put them in any timeline except are own is so ridiculous that it could only be called thoughtless pandering. Even fantasy worlds make more sense than what the Left is cooking up.

>>54004728
Tax freud is a crime, sexual assault is a crime.

Trump is a criminal, he didn't need to become the president to do that.

>>54006148
>I like to fuck little boys
>I'm not gay though

I'm getting mixed messages from you.

>>54006213
>Tax freud is a crime

I know that's a slip, but it's an amusing one.

>>54005968
>A consumer who purchases something like a card game shouldn't have to deal with people forcing political beliefs into it after it's been established

Why not? It's up to the consumer to make their own purchases. Nobody is forced to play MTG. Choose a different card game. See how far that pendulum has swung.

You folks have already tried boycotting things a good few times after Trump won, and it accomplished absolutely nothing. You only believe it's unfair to boycott things because your boycotts don't make a difference. You just believe whatever makes your world view viable regardless of the facts.

>>54006218
pedos aren't people. that's all you need to know.

>>54005976
> numerous intelligence agencies
>just one

>another intelligence agency actually revealed that said one intelligence agency admitted he has the capability to blame someone else for what they do, nullifying any claim the original intelligence agency has.

1-1 equals 0. You have no proof

>>54006239
> You just believe whatever makes your world view viable regardless of the facts.
This from a shitlib, whose entire dogma has been proven completely unworkable everywhere it has been tried. You people really have no sense of self-awareness.

>>54006239
>Why not?
Because its a card game for children. Jesuschrist man. Its the same reasoning why you don't show porn to kids too.