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>>53985216
Calistrian prostitute!

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?528186-Dreamscarred-Press-New-playtest-the-Rajah-an-akashic-initiator!

Check out the new DSP playtest!

>>53985216
Is brigand a separate job from adventurer, or just a different subset of the same career path?

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>>53985216

Has SEagle jumped the shark?

>>53979087
>>53979150
>>53979180

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>>53985216
Have a transparent version instead.

>>53985216
Why is a low level commoner so fucking smug?

>>53985216
Town guard.

>>53985359
She's a Commoner 3 but walks around with 2.5k gp in her pocket.

>>53985359
Because she just threw a cat into the room of the merchant who tried to lift up her skirt and she's about to view her handiwork before cleanup.

>>53985359
because she's not a low level commoner. she's actually a level 20 Sorcererss.

Why are we /pgg/ if /sfg/ is an active thread?

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home (Closing in 2 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west (Closing in 9 Hours)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80257/wrath-of-the-righteous (Closing in 3 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5126499/round-2-dot-dot-dot-3 (Soft Close in 1 day)

>>53985404
Autism.

>>53985216
Sailor
>>53985269
Insofar, I am REALLY liking what I'm seeing. Radiant Dawn looks to be an interesting support discipline, and I've been itching for newer, better-designed akashic stuff for a while. Rajah also fills a niche I've wanted to see with Path of War: backline support. Rajah also has a bunch of neat abilities that I wanna try out

As an aside note, this brings us up to even split of supernatural/extraordinary initiators: Warlord/Warder/Medic/Stalker (technically) and Harbinger/Mystic/Zealot/Rajah

To spark a little more discussion, what's the next kind of initiator you want to see? What sort of templates would be interesting to add onto supernatural initiators, in a similar vein as Bushi/Hussar/Privateer? What 1pp classes could use archetypes that grant initiating?

>>53985335


I like his idea about summoning Anthropomorphic personifications of Character Archetypes, But i think they're a tad too strong for an average Pathfinder campaign. Gestalt or no.

Also, The Champion is adorable.

>>53984659
Given the nature of the campaign, having everyone be a face, at least to some extent, seems like a top notch idea.

>>53984620
Now, onto the roles:
1. Strength Melee - DPS and Tank. Primary buff target for the casters, going to be doing a fuckton of damage, if they have the necessary support.

Strongest Candidates: Orion, Jericho, Alexander, Matheo, Marche, and many others.

2. Dex Melee - Off-Tank and Respectable DPS. Should be almost entirely self-sufficient, and bringing some form of out of combat utility.

Strongest Candidates: Ichabod, Derrin, Spidget

3. Ranged - Pure DPS. This is the party's big gun, the one outputting buckets of damage, and blowing up the big scary thing.

Strongest Candidates: Niccolo (though his reliance on 2hu's SoM alchemy nuker may knock him out), Ceraphine, Itsuko, Giancarlo (tho he could be either of the above too), Rae

4. Offensive Caster - Battlefield Control and debuffs. Your witches, wizards, shamans, etc. Not necessary, depending on the type of game the GM is running, can easily be replaced with another Support.

Strongest Candidates: Mouse, CCC, Eleanor, Kaerogi

5. Defensive Caster - Healing, Buffing, CC Scrubbing. These are the people who keep the party alive, and give them the tools to wreck face. The backbone of the party, and not to be under appreciated.

Strongest Candidates: Witch, Rintaelle, Sibyl, Illaria.

6. Flex pick - Given how the competition is shaking out, it's likely to be another Strength Melee, or Support Caster.

Given these roles, here's my party breakdown:
Strength Melee - Alexander
Dexterity Melee - Derrin
Ranged - Ceraphine
Offensive Caster - None.
Support Caster 1 - Sibyl or Rintaelle
Support Caster 2 - Illaria
Flex Pick - Either Witch, Jericho, Orion, or Ichabod.

Mental Stats: Charisma 3, Intelligence 2, Wis 1 (fitting for this type of story)

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>>53985245
Arshean joybringer

>>53985430
>Given these roles, here's my party breakdown:
>Strength Melee - Alexander
>Dexterity Melee - Derrin
>Ranged - Ceraphine
>Offensive Caster - None.
>Support Caster 1 - Sibyl or Rintaelle
>Support Caster 2 - Illaria
>Flex Pick - Either Witch, Jericho, Orion, or Ichabod.
Is there a day that works for all these picks?

>>53985430
Witch is both offensive and defensive caster, though. Never underestimate Spirit Guide flexibility.

>>53985359
You'd be smug too if you looked like that.

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>>53985478
Monday and Tuesday would both work.

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>>53985421

The single most ground-breaking thing Radiant Dawn is a very subtle one: any initiator can now have out-of-the-box noncombat healing.

Aside from that, Shape Veil (feat version or aegis abuse edition) is now a little stronger due to Radiant Dawn's free essence.

The Bank of the Sun is a free WBL increase, though the extra wealth is concentrated towards the lower levels.

4th-level sunstroke transforms any strike into a long-distance ICBM in an area.

I fear that the author might not receive good playtest feedback for the rajah, because it will simply be used as gestalt bait in this game's threads due to its 1/2 BAB.

How can this be the Pathfinder & Starfinder thread when Starfinder has it's own thread?

>>53985527
>1/2 BAB initiator
Why? Doesn't that defeat the entire point of initiators?

>>53985532
We have like, one autistic bastard that refuses to let go of this Le Epic Refreshment of the General. Starfinder General has been slow but pleasant, and these threads I'd daresay got a good clip to them as well. I don't see the need to fuse 'em together again.

>>53985484
Giancarlo is strength melee, dex melee, and ranged.

Ceraphine is support casting and ranged.

Derrin is dex melee and support casting.

Illaria is potentially melee.

Many characters overlap, I categorized them under their most prominent role to keep the lists uncluttered.

>>53985554
Well, i dunno. i think it kinda fits for a Pure Support Initiator. and if anything, i'd be more likely to gestalt ot with something like a Vitalist, just to get more Raw Support power out of it.

>>53985430
I went to look up Alexander's sheet and it doesn't look like it's all there. Unless I'm missing something his class implies he'll probably be weaker on the role too.

Marche has the closest statline and he's easily the tankiest but he's incompatible with the lineup. If we ditched Rintaelle for Sibyl and took Jericho then I think that'd work for a Monday timeslot?

>>53985440
I've yet to see a single person actually make a character that embodies the ideals of Arshea or even aims to acquire their Deific Obediences. This surprises me, I see people posting sluts all the time in /pfg/ campaigns and yet nobody's trying to gain mechanical advantages out of being a slut.

Except for that one girl in the Wrath of the Righteous LFG, the one with a huge ass and the apparent desire to use it.

>>53985578
>gestalting classes reliant on heavy uses of two different mental stats
Gross.

>>53985623
I Didn't realise that was the case until i went and read it just now. Sorcerer or Oracle or Bard Gestalt it is, now! Or wait until DSP Releases a Charisma Vitalist.

>>53985611
What about Lymnieris?


>Lie on a hard, flat surface wearing nothing but a cowl. Concentrate on the feeling of the surface and the air while achieving sexual release without touching yourself. Healing spells you cast heal 1 more point of damage per die.

Or The Green mother?

>Seek out the most verdant plant life in the immediate area and achieve sexual release amidst it, either alone or accompanied. At the moment of climax, whisper a secret belonging to someone else. This secret must be different every time. You gain a +4 profane bonus on saves against mind-affecting effects.

>>53985527
One of the Crowns allows for replacing Dex/str with Charisma for some attack rolls. You also get a hefty load of attack roll bonuses from vassalage. I need to reread the class some more and really figure it out before I can pass judgement on it. My laptop power cord recently but the dust and I'm gonna be out of it for a week before I can get a new one.

Gestalt-wise, I can actually predict we're gonna see three main gestalt combinations:

>Rajah/Bloodrager
Full BaB and a good fortitude save along with bloodrage for killing shit dead.

>Rajah/Paladin
Full BaB, Divine Grace, and the standard suite of paladin abilities

>Rajah/Medium (Wendo Caller or Empath Medium specifically)
It's a lot of number juggling, but Medium offers tons of out of combat utility that vastly outstrips the paladin and Bloodrager. Plus, champion spirit is REALLY good for any sort of combat build.

A few others might be Rajah/Avowed, Rajah/Bard, and more specifically, Rajah/Skald (in a party of melee initiators). It's a very potent support class

Could anyone give me a run-down on the major flaws of the kingdom building rules? I've heard claims that it's best to just stay in one hex, but what else is there?

>>53985554

It has touch attacks with Radiant Dawn.

>>53985554
It has number fixing for strikes

>>53985608
Protag doesn't demand complete sheets, an outline is enough.

With a Vitalist, a healing Bard, a Paladin, and another potential support caster, I doubt Alexander would have any troubles staying on his feet in combat. The issue with swapping him for Jericho, is that you're adding yet another Cha based PC to the mix, which unbalances things a bit.

>>53985663
It's a 1d6+Cha touch attack. That's not going to do meaningful damage to anything past shank town.

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Greentext time
>Last time, on Puella Librum D
>Cashmere had been torn down by the animated blood of the dying Yellow Jacket
>Gloriana had collapsed from its mighty lightning attack
>Cierra's valiant effort to get that last final hit in to finish the job ended with its tail dashing her across the wall
>Lysanders best efforts to save them were met not with dragon breath, but by divine protection
>The temple was to Zyke, and the Yellow Jacket was his agent
>The girls were trapped in a demi-plane anchored to the temple, no way out, no way in
>Rallying with Cat and Jericho, Lysander sets about breaking the magic circle
>Without Cashmere's help, it seems impossible to undo the magic, until the altheimer steps on something
>Invisible, but corporeal; he gets his hands on Cashmere's tome, within the demi-plane
>Overhead, Cat has climbed up the glowing statue of Zyke that overlooks it
>Inside its glowing eyes she can see the dragon, the girls, and a shadow that reaches out and touches the tome with a skeletal hand
>Lysander pulls the tome free of the circle, breaking the demi-plane and shattering the gem
>The Yellow Jacket appears before him, panic and wrath bearing down on the golden knight
>His mighty AEther Lance flies forward! Right into the Yellow Jacket's maw, tearing him into the air and almost ripping his arm off in the process
>Jericho (controlled by Gloriana) leaps into the fray, cleaving open it's exposed neck and dousing himself in the dragons life blood

>>53985648
Lymnieris always struck me as a cute goddess of child protectors or ex-prostitutes first, and a sexy goddess second... While the Green Mother is just fun. I'm sorry, but she perfectly encapsulates the greatest pleasures and deepest horrors of nature, and it's a damn shame we haven't had anyone actually use her as their object of worship yet.

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>>53985728
>An hour later, all four nightwalkers regain their senses, and hit points, around a bonfire with Cat
>The dragon has been slain and is being butchered by Jericho, the dragon hunter, and Cat has been tending to their wounds
>One thing remains; finding Robin, whatever state she's in
>The land around the Yellow Jacket's roost has been entirely washed away, revealing an ancient, pre-cataclysm city
>The tower itself was the main keep, now exposed and its guardian perished
>For the first time in hundreds of years, the relics of this fortress are free to be plundered
>In the highest floor of the tallest tower, they at last find Robin, alive but not well and in desperate need of Gloriana's healing
>But the quest is not yet done
>The bait is got, and the death knell spider is coming for it
>Will they have enough time to recover before it sniffs them out?
>Find out next week, on Puella Librum D

>>53985427
>>53985335

What other "Archetypes" you think will show up?


There's already been a mention of a "Knight in Shining Armor."

>>53985688
The lineup after the changes would be Jericho(Cha), Derrin(Cha), Ceraphine(Int), Sibyl(Wis), Illaria(Cha) with the replacement. Giancarlo could be taken on flex for 3 CHA, 2 WIS, 1 INT which should even it out a little.

>>53985728
>>53985765
Cashmere is a fuckin' nerd that needs to get married and start a family.

>>53985765

Shill your game elsewhere, faggots.

>>53985430
Let me interject with this alternate lineup!

>STR Melee - Jericho
Alexander's sheet isn't complete, and a gish tanking won't be strong enough.
>DEX Melee - Ichabod
Better fill for this slot considering the rest of the picks. Derrin brings little unique strengths to the table.
>Ranged - Ceraphine
Nothing new here.
>Caster/Support - Illaria
Nothing new here.
>Caster/Hybrid - Witch
My main point for this pick is that the party would otherwise be lacking a (vancian) fullcaster.
>Flex - Derrin or Rintaelle
Either of them are strong picks in this case. Sibyl is slightly weaker if Witch is in the party and holding her main niche, but would also work.

>>53985856
cry more faggot

>>53985554
Not at all. Think of how many maneuvers give you an accuracy boost, or outright let you use a skill instead of an attack.

>>53985884

You first bitch.

>>53985880
Jericho has to make the cut. That isn't even negotiable.

>>53985554
They get a major accuracy fixer, for an effective "BAB" of +17 at 20th level. Just no full attacks.

>>53985335
Was there no Dragons2 greentext this week?

>>53985880
>party would otherwise be lacking a (vancian) fullcaster.

I mean... that was kinda the point. Merely having a fullcaster warps the game, thus I confined Witch to the flex slot.

Remember when everyone expected nothing but knight apps to Ensoulment? I don't think there're enough to count one hand with and I don't think a single one of them is a classic knight in shining armor.

>>53985896
>antagonizing the man that can destroy the thread whenever he feels like posting logs
:thinking:

>>53985880
>Alexander's sheet isn't complete

Protag explicitly said that doesn't matter.

Has anyone actually played a divination specialist wizard? The school features are based, but the bonus spells you have to use seem so undesirable compared to shit like transmutation or evocation.

>>53985931
Personally, I blame Derrin.

Hard to justify trying to be a standard hero when you have to compete with
>THIRTEEN PAGES

>>53985931
Matheo is pretty knight in shining armor.

>>53985933

Do it then.

Shut up or put up, you spineless nigger.

>>53985906
Didn't you faggots say the same about the dumbass Nihilist Elf, that he was "a perfect fit" and "HAD to get in", and then got the boot because the GM just plain old didn't like his style?

>>53985982
I guess a champion of love is normal enough but isn't it a conflict of interests if his lover isn't courtly?

>>53985919

No, Dragons 2 had to be canceled

If you take the Arcane Enlightenment Shaman Hex, and then your Charisma increases, does the number of spells you gain from the Sorc/Wiz spell list increase or does it lock in the first time you take the hex?

>>53985927
not having a fullcaster warps the game just as much, though, so i'm not sure how much that matters

>>53986026
Oh...

Dragons 1 seems like the favorite son.

>>53986032
>taking Arcane Enlightenment as anything other than a Wandering Hex
stop. just stop. i am in physical pain from this incompetence.

>>53986033
Not having a fullcaster is something the GM can compensate for.

Having a fullcaster in a martial party, isn't. At least with a Paizo fullcaster.

>>53985970
Eh, it's actually not too shabby. Having Tongues on demand or Detect Thoughts opens some roleplay avenues.

>>53985880
>My main point for this pick is that the party would otherwise be lacking a (vancian) fullcaster.
Wouldn't C3 be a better choice for that, considering she can steal Druid and Cleric spells as a class feature?

>>53986048

SEagle had wor late, and something about a term paper due..

>>53986056
Depends on the player. Case in point, Qari from the WotR game is a fullcaster whose spells are pretty specifically party assistance and not 'full caster=god".

>>53986051
If it's a wandering hex, do you choose new spells each time you switch to it?

>>53986092
Neat, but this is a group made of a bunch of randos. You have to assume every full caster is going full "god I am."

>>53986073
>>53986048

well next week Dragon 1 is canceled, again due to late work.

>>53985997
Fuck off, Kawase

>>53986070
Spirit Guide does enough of the same, without being a Wizard (and thus avoiding all the lategame balance issues that would bring).

>>53986065
Would you say +1 initiative per 2 wizards levels is less, more, or as useful as +1 per 4 wizard levels to a physical ability score?

>>53986136
Aren't the lategame balance issues mainly dependent on whether or not the player is being a massive pile of shit?

>>53985933
When will this finally happen? Or do you just like empty threats?

>>53986115
Yes. Like any feature that works similarly, you are locked in for those types of choices for the day when you make them, but WHex only lets you pick once per day which makes the point moot. Now, if you had some way to switch out your WHex midway through your adventuring day, you would be forced to pick the same spells if you took Arcane Enlightenment again.

>>53985997
That was like 2, 3 people tops spouting that shit. Everyone with a brain knew that he wasn't right for the game, the GM included.

>>53986056
I feel like spontaneous casters are still pretty manageable. Prepared casters are the ones you almost cannot plan for.

>>53986157
Yes, and lategame is never an issue because games never enter the lategame.

>>53986120
>>53986120
Most Rando's are incapble of playing a full caster that way.

It's really, really easy to tell who's going to pull that bullshit. I never understood banning fullcasters outright when you can just veto spell/powers/playstyles.

>>53986115
Yes, which makes it very strong

>>53986157
Of course, but that goes with pretty much any character that gets enough toys to play with. Spontaneous fullcasters are still much more manageable than Prepared ones, and Wizards are the worst offenders for Prepared Casting godmode.

>>53986016
Few things are more courtly than a COURTLY FAE.

One of the Knights of the around Table straight up courted and married Nymue, a Lady of the Lake.

>>53986140
Meh? +5 to dex or con helps to an extent, but going first matters a lot more. Unless you somehow want to be a MUSCLE WIZARD that casts FISTS, of course.

For maximum FAST INITIATIVE, be a bullied Ifrit with Wildfire heart and a Scorpion familiar with Improved initiative.

>>53986191
Keep on retconning history, jackass. Everyone was SOOOOOO shocked when Argentum called out that elf.

>>53986189
>>53986213
Oh wow, that's way better than I thought. Someone last night was saying the Lore Spirit was the best one, so I assumed they meant it should be the primary spirit. I didn't know the Wandering Hex version was so good.

>>53986205
Why ban it?

It's an excellent way to filter out the shit heads.

>>53986221
>>53986202
>>53986192
I added a clause in specifically to counteract the casting godmode people might be worried about. The clause of "it has to look cool to make it work" is specifically designed for Protagonist to decide whether or not C3 will ever learn certain borked spells or spell combinations.

Which prestige classes are a good, which ones are good enough that you can take them for a gimmick/theme build and which ones are so bad that they make /pgg/ weep like the bunch of emotionally unstable girls they pretend to be?

>>53986237
14-16 dex (+2-3) + Bullied (+2) + Wildfire heart (+4) + Improved Initiative (+4) + Scorpion familiar (+2) + Divination (+1)

That's +16-17 initiative at level one that can act during surprise rounds for those following at home, probably one of the highest you can achieve 1pp only

>>53986277
Duelist is unusable Garbage, IMO, ESPECIALLY since Swashbucklers are a thing.

>>53986277
Swordlord

>>53986290
Scorpion familiar is +4 and it's actually 17-18, I'm drinking today it's my national holiday ok

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>>53986237
Thanks for the feedback.

>>53986277
Any casting prestige class that gives +1 Level of Spellcasting Class at every level is amazing for full casters, since full casters usually have fairly underwhelming class features that are outweighed by the nice ones you get from the prestige class

>>53986327
Aka Rainbow Servant

>>53985661
Bump

>>53986339
And Stargazer

>>53986354
They're very overcomplicated, and they require a lot of fiddling with numbers behind the scenes. People probably aren't answering because they don't use the system, so they don't have the experience to say what's bad about it

>>53986327
Honestly, this is why Prestigious Spellcaster is one of my favourite feats

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/prestigious-spellcaster/

>>53986363
A stargazer stargazer stargazer the stargazer?

>>53985335

So the champion's deal is superhuman strength right?

Why is THAT what she looks like then?

>>53986440
what

>>53986500
A stargazer oracle with the stargazer trait (for varisians) and stargazer trait (from IG) that takes the stargazer prc

>>53986534
neat

>>53986442
well it took over a woman.

historically though 'strongmen' were not like bodybuilders. look at the guys who pull fucking planes and semis with their teeth; they're not oiled and muscle-defined. They have a little layer of fat, as well as a barrel-like torso rather than the thin waist you'd see on Schwarzenegger in the days.

>>53986566
Because there is a distinct difference between a strongman and a bodybuilder. The former is a Heavy type guy who is all about functionality while the latter is showmanship. Bodybuilders may be strong, but in comparison to a strongman they lack stamina and have fragile bodies while a strong man has to be barrelchested and fatty to support the and survive the massive weights he lifts.

>>53986695
That was my point.

The champion's deal is superhuman strength. She looks like that because she's not a bodybuilder, she throws fucking rock columns.

Should we switch back to /pfg/ or keep to /pgg/?

/pgg/ is kind of pointless if /sfg/ exists.

>>53986831
We should switch back to /pfg/, it's stupid to remain /pgg/ when 99% of the discussion is Pathfinder.

>>53986831
>>53986864

Samefag.

>>53986869
>they have an opinion different from me and didn't post within a minute of each other so they must be a samefag
Guess we must be the same person too then?
>>53986831
I'd rather go back to /pfg/ but it really *really* doesn't matter.

>>53985561
That's pretty much my thinking too. This thread has exactly two mentions of "Starfinder". Now three.

The OP, >>53985532 and this post.

>>53986933
>>53986933

It matters because it makes someone upset and therefore, we should do it.

>>53986709
She looks more fat-fat rather than Strong-Fat, though.

>>53986864

we should keep it as /ppg/ because i love silencing any other discussion about anything the studio's done by drowning it in PF talk, while simultaneously not allowing separate threads to be made because this is /pgg/ and not /pfg/

>>53986831
Given the Hand of Mod that got dropped on the PFG autist today, I think it's safe to say the PGG autists have won the day.

>>53986996
Solution: Have someone who isn't a damn autist make the new /pfg/ thread.

>>53986988
But... Starfinder actually looks kind of good?

I've always wanted to play a game where the characters were half-aware they were in a game, a la 8-Bit Theatre or OotS.

>>53986982
Wait, go back to /pfg/ because it makes someone upset or stay /pgg/ because it makes someone upset?

Can we somehow do both?

>>53986996
What was the problem with the last thread? Why are slutty barmaids fine but fully clothed anime girls are banned?

>>53987078
>Why are slutty barmaids fine but fully clothed anime girls are banned?

Because slutty barmaids are at least something you could encounter in a tabletop setting, anime is for anime.

>>53987061
/gfp/?

>>53987098
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53985108/#53985108
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53984402/#53984402

And these two aren't fantasy?

>>53987078
Because the anime thread was an anon thumbing their noses at the mod that deleted their page 1 /pfg/ thread.

>>53987109
I find it especially hilarious that the /pgg/let that made this thread copied the discussion topic from one of those threads word for word.

>>53987137
Are they the same poster? Different filenames, different posting style...

>>53986831
The fact of the matter is that /pfg/anon has angered the mods and we risk losing our general if we don't lay low for a while. As much as I hate to say it, I think we're stuck with /pgg/ for a while.

>>53987206
How come this /pfg/ thread, the first in a long while, stayed up all the way?
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53942059/#53942059

>>53987257
Because the /pgg/ thread at the time was made by another autist who wouldn't stop whining about how WRONG we were to use /pfg/ despite being when /sfg/ had just been made. Same shit, different side.

>>53987099
/Granblue Fantasy Pictures/?

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>>53986442

you may not like it but this is what peek performance looks like!

>>53987257
/pfg/ threads are almost always beat out by /pgg/ threads made during American daytime hours. That one was posted in the middle of the night. My theory is the /pgg/ shitposters are American while the /pfg/ shitposters are from China.

>>53987310
/Geeks Fapping to Prostitutes/

>>53987206
Bullshit, it's not like the ones of us that were creating new Pathfinder threads went and took a shit in the mod's cereals. The bitching of /pgg/ retards trying to push a meme more than Millhouse and their mass reporting of legitimate threads did this, nothing else.

>>53987408
>shitposters from China
Kawase and his posse?

>>53987023
I tried, and it was shat on by autists and ignored, and eventually fell off the board because I refuse to give CPR aside from 1-2 bumps.

>>53987438
I haven't developed my crackpot theory that far yet.

What's your poison for tonight, my piggies?

>>53987023
Really it's only the autists that even care about the name of the general. Most of don't give a shit about /pfg/ vs. /pgg/.

>>53987517
Anything that'll convince me for a few hours more that I'm not 5 seconds from accidentally self-destructing and driving away all the people I've made friends with here.

Preferably something that'll keep me from assuming my Roll20 crush doesn't loathe me and it's worth PMing them.

>>53987579
Aww, I'm sure your Roll20 crush doesn't hate you anon. They probably don't even know you exist.

>>53987517
Autism.

>>53987531
This. I'm only annoyed by /pgg/-'tards because they lose all their spaghetti if someone as much as mentions /pfg/. Remember that even animefag actually called the threads /pgg/ before /sfg/ was established, but merely referenced this as *also* being pathfinder/pfg/, presumably so it shows up on searches and avoid any confusion when people are looking for /pfg/, especially when Starfinder is around the corner.

And they went full-on fucking reeeeeeeee to the point where there were /pgg/ threads that didn't even mention Pathfinder.

>>53987366

Dubs of truth

>>53987517
Maple whiskey because my mom is an alcoholic who gives weird gifts.

>>53987579
Have you been PMing them? Can't hurt to see how they feel about you. Frankly, everyone has feelings of inadequacy and being a bumbling oaf around others, it's part of our social condition and the way we strive to keep up a good public image.

>>53987579
I don't loathe you! I'm just really busy this weekend, Anon. We can PM later tonight, though. I promise.

>>53987579
>make friends
>here
What the fuck is wrong with you? I wouldn't befriend these people for money.

>>53987655
I'd be your friend for money.

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>>53987655

Would you accept artwork?

>>53987517
I'm going to a bar and drinking myself into a blackout tonight. I've never been that wasted before, but I'm doing it because I've lost all control over my life.

Assuming my friends aren't cunts and help me home, I can only hope I stumble onto the computer and pump out a character for JttW.

>>53987740
Gareth, is that you?

>>53987633
Well, yes--they're wonderful and fun to talk to. But consider how you'd feel if you got asked something to the effect of
>Do you hate me?
How should I even expect people to respond to that? "No" is what you say to calm someone down, but doubt, while entirely realistic, is unattractive. And the appearance of desperation, which I'm already certain I give in my every action, is not something I want to cultivate.

>>53987740
I did that once for fun, and once because I wanted to die.
It isn't worth it, Anon. Don't drink that much. Just have a few, alright?

>>53985408
You keep missing out Fluffy 9!

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80328/volo-fluffy-tails-9

>>53987949
>Forgetting to list an obvious bamboozle
What did he mean by this?

>>53987949

Someone has been taking the list I made and removing stuff. I don't know why.

>>53987517
Chinese Food.

>>53985216
>"""medieval""" outfit
>blatantly nylon stockings
>absolute territory
Sasuga...

Is Summon Nature's Ally good enough for a summoning build, or is Summon Monster necessary for that to be good?

>>53988064
Summon monster is definitely better. But if you're getting summon nature's ally, chances are you're some kind of class that can do more than summon, so build on that.

If I am the sole male app with a mandate of heaven with a group of other females who also have the mandate, does that mean: a harem end, we all INTRIGUE each other near the end, or we are all some kind of relative (which doesn't disqualify the first option)?

>>53988132
Yes.

>>53987935
>It isn't worth it, Anon. Don't drink that much. Just have a few, alright?

This, the build-up and culmination of drinking so much you throw up later that night is atrocious, your stomach works itself into knots you didn't think were possible, and even though you want to throw up it feels like doing that would be the worst thing in the world.

>>53987927
Okay, could you actually tell us why you think they loathe you? I know you're in a mindset right now where you fear they do, but what have you been doing, or how have they been replying, that makes you think they simply don't like you? Personally, if I really don't want to talk to someone I just give them short, terse responses.

Is there an archertype for any class that let's them put an alchemist bomb or something that explodes/is a splash weapon on their weapon so that when they hit people with the weapon, the bomb/splash weapon also goes off?

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>>53988132
>mfw the traits in Wrath of the Righteous assume those with identical traits are siblings or cousins

I know some people here are still interested, so have a bit more Starfinder

for this

http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljwx?Cybernetics-and-Augmentations

What do you think of the way it handles Ability Score upgrades?

>>53988165

Grenadier

>>53988127
The idea was to make a summoning wild shape druid

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>>53988200
>In Starfinder, when a character reaches 5th level, and every 5 levels thereafter, the character increases 4 ability scores of the player's choice. Also if the ability score is a 16 or lower, it increases by +2, while scores of 17 or more increase by +1.


OH
MY
GOD

>>53988200
>In Starfinder, when a character reaches 5th level, and every 5 levels thereafter, the character increases 4 ability scores of the player's choice. Also if the ability score is a 16 or lower, it increases by +2, while scores of 17 or more increase by +1.

Jesus christ, this is a recipe for stat dump city in point buy games.

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Is there any kind of Agathion with bunny features?

>>53988220
If you *really* want to summon as a druid, then don't invest too hard in it. Spell Focus and Augment Summoning should carry you, and take an Animal Shaman archetype for something that'll help you. Like Saurian or Wolf. Apart from that, go all in on Wild Shape.

Use summoning as the support to your main workhorse strategy of turning into a fuckhuge monster, use your summoned creatures as adds to help you trip, grapple, or otherwise control the battlefield.

>>53987292
Somebody should've shot that guy, and possibly explained to him that he needs to stop asperging so damn much.

>>53988224
>>53988265
Never change, /pgg/

>>53988266
There's an Agathion for every type of animal, anon, so yes, there are Agathion-blooded bunny-people.

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>>53988306
Can I be a squirrel agathion-blooded?

>>53988433
Yes! Cows and Bears too.

>>53987980
Q Sirius is the only GM on record to have successfully ran a pfg game to intended completion.

I think they'd want to keep that good rep.

>>53985404
Because the person who keeps trying to make the next one /pfg/ keeps using anime pictures, so when the guy who apparently lusts after /pgg/ with the fury of a thousand suns makes that and reports the /pfg/ one, /pfg/ is the one that gets nuked.

It's happened like three threads in a row now.

>>53985408
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west (Closing in 9 Hours)
Who /hyp/ here

>>53985404
Because /pgg/ has these kinds of people
>>53988433
>>53988441
>>53988306
>>53988266

>>53988265
Idunno man it sounds pretty rad to me. Seems like it's reducing the dependency on +Stat belts and headbands a lot

>>53988265
You can't dump stats in Starfinder.

You can lower a stat, but it won't get you bonus points.

>>53988731
Why does /pfg/ get nuked just for having anime pcitures?

>>53988820
They belong on /a/ or /jp/.

>>53988159
See, this is the point where an attempt to help myself starts to break down, because it's something irrational, and I can't actually use reason to talk myself out of it.

Talking with them is fun, I feel we get on well during a conversation. But every time I hit "Send" I start wondering if I've just embarrassed myself. Whenever I'm talking to someone I like, I always feel I have to finely comb my own words for possible offenses or imperfections.

>>53988820
/pfg/ doesn't get nuked FOR having anime pictures, but when the mod comes to decide which to nuke, he nukes the anime-picture one, despite /pgg/ secretly being borne of yet greater autism.

>>53988765
I'm not hype at all, the game is building up to be a dumpster fire.

>>53988854
Why

>>53988860
No memes

>>53988877
Foxtits is a meme

>>53988924
One character does not a party make.

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>Charisma 15
>Interesting, almost always knows what to say

HOW
EVEN IN TEXT I'M STILL ROCKING 8 CHARISMA AT BEST

>>53988935
Think of someone cool. Act like them.

>>53988935
YOUR STUTTERING IS ADORABLE.

>>53988848
Why the anime picture one then?

>>53988928
Then let's form a party around who Foxtits is gonna bully!

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>>53988833
>anime picures are only for /a/ and /jp/

The real reason is that anime posters have often been confrontational with pfg and the mods, intentionally making threads early and so on. Lots of other groups of people on pgg do the same thing, but the mods just have to puck their battles and make quick generalizations, and unfortunately some of the heat that came down on some shits at some point got generalized to anime posters. Its far from a constant thing, just quickens the hammer when other shit is going on.

>>53988924
Pathfinder in its entirety is a meme.

No seriously. By the actual definition of meme it is. A behavior passed on through a species by non-genetic means.

>>53988842
It might be a good idea to bite the pillow and actually broach the subject with them. Irrationality can't be solved with rationality, it can only be solved by brute-forcing your way through the issue until it's not an issue at all, and this means typing out the question, however hard it is for you, and hit Submit. A flash of pain is worth more than a year of dull agony, don't you think?

>>53988974
Janny doesn't like anime?

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>>53988935
>Cha 7
>Uninteresting, rude, boorish, and generally unpleasant to be around

HOW
NO MATTER HOW RUDE I AM PEOPLE STILL LIKE ME

>>53989008
Does your character have big tits?

>>53988935
Is your character a male?

>>53988977
the most bullyable character for foxtits isn't even in the running anymore

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>>53989008

YOU'RE ONE LOVABLE SON OF A BITCH, ANON

ACCEPT IT

>>53989033
And who was that? Shuang or Rory's application that I can't remember the name of (Clock or something?)

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>>53989008
>>53988935
Consider what board you're on. We've been conditioned to think of low Charisma as "moe"--cute and endearing and sexually desirable. At least as long as the character is otherwise a good person and has a big fat set of tits.

Meanwhile, it's harder for any of us to pull off being smooth and cool without straying into cringe territory. Add to that the fact that your fellow players likely see confidence as being threatening, especially if you're playing a man unless you're one of the /pfg/ celebs who are held to a different standard, and you end up with a situation where Charisma is actually a hindrance.

>>53988877
That's actually a point in its favor. Without memes they can play in peace so we won't bother them and they won't bother us.

>>53989127
I don't think I've ever seen anyone pull off smooth and cool in a decade of roleplaying. Sometimes I wonder if it's even possible, if someone that was smooth and cool IRL and played themselves would just come off as cringy by virtue of format.

>>53988924

So what you're saying is that if Foxtits doesn't get picked, they'll have a decent party.

I hope SotJR has a lot of fun tonight!

>>53989196
The easiest way to play a cool, confident character is to play someone with convictions and a willingness to make decisions even if they go against the group's opinion. Too many people play guys or girls that are willing to bend like a sapling to the wind of consensus. People don't want to build their boats out of saplings, they want sturdy oak.

>>53988978
>intentionally making threads early

We get lots of early non-anime threads too.

It's just that nobody complains about page 5/6/7 when it's a non-anime thread.

But if it's page 5/6/7 and it's an anime thread, whining ensues.

>>53989375
Truely, anti-animefags are the real autists.

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Is there any homebrewed or published Marilith monster class for pathfinder?

>>53988842
>I'm afraid of upsetting them or embarrassing myself

That's called love, Anon!

>>53989393
I think we all agreed to that when the no-anime allowed threads started cropping up.

>>53989330
Nah, that's a way to get your character shanked or kicked from the group.

At best, you end up as a greentext story in the latest "that guy" thread.

>>53989408
Unrequited love!

>>53989460
aaaaaaaaaa

>>53989460
Unrequited love sucks, and this thread is proof.

>>53989415
Yeah, that was just infantile.

Like a 'no girls allowed' sign on a pillow fort.

My question is

Can we build a functional party that can get through a Paizo AP, non-gestalt, using only the 9th-level initiators from DSP?

What would a party composed of all initiators concievably look like? A party of 4? A party of 6? What initiator would occupy which role?

>>53989826
Absolutely.

Warden, Mystic, Warlord, Zealot.

If for some reason you'd play a female dwarf, would you go with the 'females have beards' meme or no? I think it'd be interesting but I don't see why they would have them in the first place other than to be "different."

Anyone have an account so we can get feedback on Rajah to DSP?

>>53989863
I can handle some of that, whatcha need anon?

>>53989840

Mine is Warder, Mystic, Warlord, Rubato. Rocking hard through WotR so far, just hit level 6.

>>53989900
Really, in terms of Buffing and all that, Zealot and Rubato are kinda interchangeable. Zealot for Defensive Buffing, Rubato for offensive.

>>53989911

Which works because my players tend to be aggressive most of the time.

>>53988990
It's a solid idea...but I don't know if that last part is true. I don't know how much it'd hurt. And I don't think I want to know.

>>53989826
Paizo APs can be beaten with Fighters, anon.

>>53985724
Well, it's a good thing this class isn't focused on being a damage dealer past shank town then!

So I've been given an idea for a oneshot.
>Small commoner girl is in serious crisis and nobody will help her
>Performs a forbidden ritual and summons the spirits of ancient kings of old to empower her

>These are the PCs: A part of Warlord/Zealot/Highlord/Rajah/Nation Pact Avowed/Maybe a Skald too

>You need to use your class abilities to help her fight evil and slay monsters far above her CR
>You're spirits so you can't directly damage enemies, everything in battle has to be channeled through the girl (This will need some tweaking to not be overly restrictive)

Also
all the PCs are high CHA dashingly handsome men and the girl offered up her body as part of the ritual deal

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>>53989254
Yes, "fun"

>>53989923
You will never know how much it will hurt until you do it, and you need to understand that an hour of pain is far more preferable than this nightmare of indecision you are currently lost in. The absolute worst case scenario that could happen, should you express your feelings to this person, is that they go unrequited. Painful, but now you know. Don't let yourself be miserable in a prison of your own design, and don't deny your crush (and yourself) what could be something beautiful. PM THEM!

>>53989949
I like it. What's CharGen like?

>>53989850
I don't put beards on my female dwarfs. I mean, if someone else plays one they can go for it, but I don't understand why they would have them. I much prefer them valuing their hair as men do beards.

>>53989949
>Rajah
A what?

>>53989872
Mostly just want to make sure they get it instead of being stuck with paidrones

>>53990057
New DSP initiator. Akashic-themed, does support, and has lots of fun, weird out-of-combat things (like a personal outsider merchant)

>>53989949
This sounds like an otome game. I like it.

I want to be the girl.

>>53990071
They forsook us and our advice; let them lie in the bed they have made.

>>53989949
I've been looking for an excuse to play a Rajah.

>>53990011
...Maybe.
I just got busy on something else, but hopefully there'll be time to at least talk again.

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>>53985527
>The single most ground-breaking thing Radiant Dawn is a very subtle one: any initiator can now have out-of-the-box noncombat healing.

This. I'm kind of sad as a result that Silver Crane is losing the other of the two things that made it unique among other disciplines after the Sacred nerf, but I should have known better I guess. Paladin types aren't allowed to keep nice things unless it's Divine Grace.

Oh well, Egyptian "Paladins" it is then.

RIP in peace Silver Crane, it was fun while it lasted.

>>53985915
>Just no full attacks
>tfw DSP got so butthurt by the "boost+full attack" meme that instead of solving that, they just took away the ability to full attack
Why am I not surprised?

>>53990146
The tiny handle for that stupidly heavy sword always triggers me

>>53985931
>>53985972
I still wish that that one ladyknight didn't get pulled.

>>53990230
The one that got replaced by Gaius? I think he's an improvement personally, but I think he might be abandoned.

>>53990011
But what if it hurts their friendship? What if it's weird to talk or RP thereafter, knowing that they were the subject of a crush?

>>53985527
>The single most ground-breaking thing Radiant Dawn is a very subtle one: any initiator can now have out-of-the-box noncombat healing.
Are you talking about the 5th level Decree of Purity maneuver or am I missing something? Every other healing maneuver seem to require an attack roll

>>53990230
>>53990256
Selene? I really liked Selene. Bitchy anons talked a lot of shit, but she was really pure and elegant in her simplicity.

>>53990336
Use it out of a fight.

>>53990125
Tell us who the lucky anon is, or who you might be! We need all the scuttlebutt we can scrounge, and this is one juicy bone of gossip.

>>53990382
>simplicity
What I would give for the app processes of these games to be about simplicity and brevity instead of the fashion show runway that we get. They're all too purple prose-y and long for me to really care about someone else's character.

What are the biggest memes for Wrath of the Righteous by Tuvarkz?

>>53990463
tuvarkz

>>53990463
>Ladyknight autism
>Nodachis
>No boys allowed
>Totally a false flag you guys, honest

>>53990463
I think Disk's Lady Knight and Demon Lover combo has potential.

>>53990506
>I was only pretending to be retarded: the campaign

>>53990506
>No boys allowed

Man, I'm going to giggle when a sufficiently virile man applies to that campaign, gets in, and is like a fox in the henhouse with the ladyknights while Tuvarkz can only grin and bear it.

>>53990081
> They forsook us
> Acting like anon has the moral high ground in this post-Garethgate world

>SotJR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9_iQ1FSnp8

>>53990575
I mean, we're all cunts, but so is Gareth. The least they could have done is shown some brotherhood in our shared cuntness.

>>53990575
>someone else is using the term Post-GarethGate world

It's true, though. We cast this world into ruin and desolation with our lust for tiddies and butts.

>>53990568
>sufficiently virile man
>in /pfg/
Oh, I'm laffin'.
Do recall that the most visibly virile bachelors across all the meme games have had jack shit for lewdness while femboys and slender Dexfags have been getting railroaded into sex scenes.

>>53990506
>It was a false flag guys but let me completely keep acting like the false flag that totally wasn't me, repeat its false flag points, and agree with the false flag in every way.
>BUT NO BOYS ALLOWED LADYKNIGHTS ONLY
>also gays are gross, no gays.

>>53990602
This is the future we chose. We can either help make quality content or be spiteful faggots

>>53990609
Ensoulment has a couple decent mans

>>53990642
I chose to uphold our 4chan heritage and will be a faggot.

>>53990605
I've been out of the loop, what is garethgate?

It's another long one. Expect continuation.
>Spiriting of the Flower Court V - Jericho's Bizarre Adventure (part 1)
https://pastebin.com/ftcF0B3v
i regret nothing

>>53990708
and yet still nothing about b-ball

>>53990658
10 to 1 they're going to puss out and just wait around for women to throw themselves at them. There hasn't been a single character in any of these games who's been proactive about pursuing someone. Just rape victims getting pushed into bestiality and shit.

But then, isn't that why you people like them? As long as there's a shitty will-they/won't-they tease going on, you keep on drooling over how they MUST be fucking and they just won't share!

>>53990733
Honestly I kind of hate the whole 'are they fucking guis' thing

>>53990733
I never got the appeal of being the passive character in a romance arc. All the fun of roleplaying romance is going over the top.

>>53990568
>Implying it's not me getting to play Eugenics Emblem if so I choose.

>>53990609
>forgetting Rory

:^)

>>53990770
Fuck off Tuvarkz

>>53990772
Round 1
>HAY GUY SI TOTES GOT LAID
>HERE'S THE LOGS TO PROVE IT

Round 2
>Oh noooo~
>My boipucci got popped~

Yeah, what a stud.

Running Strange Aeons AP in an hour. Party consists of a magus, rogue and samurai. Advised them if they need heals I'd throw a DMPC their way for support but they want to iron man it. Do you guys think they'll be able to actually fulfill the criteria to get in the chapel and make it in fully intact?

>>53990609
There's gotta be plenty of examples of virile studs getting some action.

>>53990770
You really are the worst, you know that? Why do you think you're capable of making Wrath any good when you're so stupid that you think "hurr Asmodeus/Ragathiel are actually interesting" and "lol imma take the Iomederp memes seriousy"?

>>53990789
For 95% of the time he's still a STR-based boye. You at least have to give him that

>>53990817
>STR-based
>implying str is based
noice joke.

>>53990817
>still spelling it boye
>or boi, or boiye, or just calling yourself boy in general
You're fired from being a man.
Go down to the station, turn in your badge and cock, and clear out your desk.

>>53990871
DELETE THIS

>>53985611
I'm playing an Arshean paladin right now. She's pretty alright about not being weird around the party, but the DM has her in Anime style fanservice shenanigans. He's already warned me about the tentacle monster he has planned for the "Beach Episode"

>>53990891
>He isn't living a based dexfag life
How else will you please a woman if you aren't flexible enough to hit the right spots?

>>53990952
MUSCLE
MEMORY

How will you pick your woman up and carry her through the threshold?

>>53990952
>Buying into the Dex homosexuality
How can you please a woman if you can't even lift the bed to the bedroom to FUCK her on :^)

>>53990801
>FotJR has all Dexfags
>SotJR has the Dexfag get some, the Strfags get cucked or stay celibate
>Hell's Vengeance apparently not as lewd as we were all led to believe
>Dragons1 has precisely one male and he's not getting any
>Dragons2 has Rory getting assraped so hard he turns into a woman
>PLD has the only masculine man dropping out, then the less masculine one gets raped so hard he turns into a femboy
>LoBaF has zero sex going on
>Blingmaker has zero sex going on
>Overlewd is still a complete unknown

>>53990708
Oh my god. This is magical.

>>53990770
You're a fucking idiot, Tuv. Get the FUCK out of my thread.

>>53990992
>Assraped so hard he turns into a woman

He was just a woman after the party where he met his girlfriend, anon, the one with the fluffy tail :^)

>>53990983
Please, women fall on my dick. I don't gotta carry shit.

>>53990992
>>LoBaF has zero sex going on
>>Blingmaker has zero sex going on
>Notorious perv Maximum Sleep is involved
>zero sex

Get real, dummy.

>>53990706
Lewdfags ruined the general and now they're acting like they did us a favor

>>53991080
Don't forget. Overlewd is also DMed by sleep.

>>53991096
More detail, please?

>>53990992
>>53991080
Blingmaker already confirmed ERP hasn't it? Something about infertile retainers?

>>53991122
There's a screencap around here somewhere, I'm away from my machine

>>53990708
You are pouring a shitload of time into a campaign you might not even get into, I mean, regardless of the quality of your app, odds are against you. Have you forgotten that? Or do you just enjoy writing random shit that much that you won't be disappointed?

In any case, its entertaining stuff to read, just curious.

>>53991173
Do we even know if the smut guy is an applicant and not just some degenerate?

>>53991173
I believe in my app, who believes in me

Also, it's a really good way of practicing your writefag skills, and I've been off duty for a while.

>>53991139
That not only sounds like bullshit, it sounds like random words you pulled out of some sort of automatic generator.

>>53991186
I mean, I'm assuming anyone who would spend this much time writing fanfiction for the campaign MUST have taken the time to write an actual app. Unless it's Protag himself, but it doesn't read like his writing at all and
>>53991195
Aight, good luck, but there are a lot of apps in that LFG that a lot of good writers believe in, more than 12 I'd say.

>>53990992
>Hell's Vengeance game is allegedly lewd with a 1980s grindhouse flavor
>is neither lewd nor grindhouse

>>53991217
If you've been paying attention to my posts, you should know that mine is one of them :^)

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JTTW PICKS WHEN?

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>>53991238
>tfw no ruse ooze to snooze on

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>>53991151
>>53991122

>>53991238
It doesn't officially end for a couple hours yet, and there will probably a day or two before announcements even though the GM has already picked the apps

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>The Vilderaven on her back
>Underneath a large dog-like creature
>We PLD now, I guess.

>>53991238
Did DHB ever put an app up?

>>53991238
It'll just be Argentum's friends and people he already plays with

>>53991251
>you will never be rused by the ooze
>you will never taken to the space jam

>>53991297
I hope Foxtits gets in, purely for memes

>>53991139
What, the snuff and night tea?
It's pretty obvious they just bought that because they knew their fanboys in the thread would be stalking them hard enough to notice when they started ticking off doses.

How much does a ship costs?

>>53991410
A couple of threads, by the looks of it.

Who's going to claim Ensoulment app #60?! I'm fairly sure you'd be making pfg game history with that one.

>>53991410

Depends on the ship

>>53991459
I'm not sure what the actual app count is with all of the deletions. I think most of the time when apps are abandoned they just stop being updated, but Ensoulment had an abnormal amount of them deleted or replaced.

And then there's FUCKING RORY who deleted his page 1 app to repost it on page 2 before going back on that and leaving a dead page for days.

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>>53990992
>I could have gone with a Str build
>I could have even gone with a fucking Str/Int build
>but all those options only came about after I was already too deep to switch
>now I don't have any time to look for games with which to play any of my Str builds

>>53990992
>SotJR has the Dexfag get some, the Strfags get cucked or stay celibate

Didn't Corwin and Val fuck?

>>53991280
Gimme them logs, nerd

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>>53991524
>Didn't Corwin and Val fuck?

Did she take it in the ass on the first date?

>>53991625
What a thot.

>>53991446
I keked

>>53991410
Longships cost 10,000 gp.

>>53985216
Usually artists, sometimes priests, and the occasional homeless person.

>>53991080
>Notorious perv
So what's he actually done besides run Overlewd?

>>53989949
Everyone is Jane?

>>53991917
That's what I thought of when I read it.

New thread:
>>53991962
>>53991962

>>53991967
Page fucking 7, asshole.

>>53991967
>still /pgg/

We literally have an /sfg/ up, there's no reason to use /pgg/.

How do you store a polearm while using a bow?