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Taunar Edition

>FAQ
https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Warhammer_40000_Designers_Commentary-ENG.pdf

>Latest news :
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>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
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>WIP Math-hammer doc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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Can I no longer laugh at this 'cos it's on reddit?
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>>53961133
No but you can laugh at reddit
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Can anyone post a screenshot of the R&H army list?
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So how many typos and mistakes are in the FW Index:Astra Militarum alone?
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Deathskulls or Blood Axes?
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>>53961149
Oh Forge World.
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>>53961133
I couldn't laugh to begin with.
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>>53961074 #
thats the thing. they didnt and don't need to guess.

they could just ask you at the start of the turn "which rhino is the deathstar in" and you're obligated to either answer or show your list (which needs to indicate it in some fashion)

40k doesn't have hidden information
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Could someone post the Fallen datasheet please?
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>>53961178
Download it from the MEGA yourself you lazy nigger
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>>53961154
A massive WAAAGH! that incorporates all clans
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What to spend 20 points on?

>>53961154
Blood axes
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>>53961186
I'm on my phone and i live in an awful country where data costs shit. Sorry man I gotta nig it up.
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alright we've had 8th for a bit, post your sleeper hits

>14"
>stats don't fall apart when wounded
>pistol s5 -2
>a lot of attacks
>no more warpflame
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>>53961106
All hail the Korps. In our death lies victory. Lets beat all those antiFW fuckers with shovels.
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>>53961202
It can fly too, plus 4+ invulnerable dissuades the use of multi damage 1 shot weapons. Shame you can't have Herald cast two smites or that version would be good too.
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>>53961197
>Tanks riding in tanks

What did he mean by this?
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>>53961197
Take an eviserator on your other Canoness?
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>>53961202
Chaos Spawn deliver multiple 2 damage S5 -1 attacks with awesome shit like wound rerolls and ap -4 as random buffs and it is 33 points.
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>>53961158

One of the Tau Fliers with RAW can never fire its main gun
Forge World indeed
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So did the intern responsible for cranking out these FW indexes forget he was supposed to do them until 3:30AM the night before or what
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>>53961272
top kek.

Which one?
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DKOK players are actually the gayest players in 40k.

Why's that you ask? Simple. What does DKOK look like when spelt out? Looks like DICK doesn't it?

Then what happens when you try to pronounce it? You get D-KOK. KOK sounding like COCK and D for DICK (again).

So now you know how homosexual the FW PtW resin guardsman army is.
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>>53961307
It wasn't as PtW in 7th.
I hold to that.
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>>53961307
>What does DKOK look like when spelt out?
Dethklok, naturally.
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>>53961305

IIRC Tiger Shark 1-0
Railgun one
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>>53961322
fuckin hell.
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>>53961197
>Dominions Superiors dont have Combi-Meltas

you disgust me.
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>>53961351
2 combi-meltas cost nearly as much as an Imagifier.
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>>53961381
Imagifier aren't expensive, and those melta can easily kill their points worth
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>>53961145
Pretty please?


The servers at the office block mega, and I dread having to wait the entire workday until I can download the file myself. You are doing the Dark Gods' work, anon.
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>>53961381
2 Combi-Meltas deals approximately the same damage as a single Imagifier, aint that a funny thing. 2 Meltagun shots vs a 50% chance to get 3.5 Exorcist missile shots, which deal half the damage of a Meltagun

whoops that actually means an Imagifier is worth 0.875 Meltaguns, in that context.

More seriously, looking at your list I have no idea where you plan to put those Imagifiers. Are they hanging back and exploiting poorly worded rules to force feed Acts of Faith to your exorcists, footslogging with the 15 basic bitch blob, or riding with the Flamer teams in their Immolators? None of these feel quite meaty enough to warrant an Imagifier personally
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>>53961197
Immolators can't ride in Immolators anon.

Please read the basic rules of the game before posting lists.
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Am I the only one tempted to make an Alpha Legion Chosen army out of Primaris marine minis.

you can even do the 5 man plasma gunner squads.
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>>53961307
you really should bit the pillow, anon
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While I detest the direction the fluff is going in, and the new jet pack marines and gravis captain are fug ugly, the regular Primaris (when converted) are starting to grow on me.

Fuck.. I want to hate them, so much..
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>>53961438
Wait for Alpha Legion rules first
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>>53961465

What's wrong with them unconverted?

All he did was a head swap. MkIV helmets look great.
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>>53961465
>MkIII shoulders on MkX Bodies

Fucking gross.
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>>53961507
And pauldrons. the Primaris helmets look awful, with the flattened face plate, in my humble opinion.
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>>53961201
best I can do for ya
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>>53961429
You can blow the command point on the imagifier to better guarantee the second round of Meltagun shots, without using it in the shooting phase.
1 imagifier is with the dominions, and the other is obviously supporting the Bolter line with a canoness.
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>lasguns with underslung grenade launchers are gone
>elysian sergeants now carry laspistols
>no option for a normal lasgun
fucks sake forgeworld , all my painted sergeants are pointless now and to top it all of your own elysian squad on sale is also not a full elysian squad anymore
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>>53961614
I don't have a derogatory name to call you, but I think you should leave regardless.
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>>53961641
Why would you willingly disable the Dominions' Vanguard ability by putting something else in their Immolator with them?
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BIG
BLACK
DRILLS
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>>53961498
why?
surely it'll just be adding an extra ability to <alpha legion> units.
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>>53961106
Is there anything in any other army with this ridiculous level of firepower? Holy shit, S18 -5AP 2D6 damage with the potential to cause mortal wounds on 6+
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>>53961666
>more than 9 away from enemy units

INTO THE TRASH
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Someone please post Tantalus, Reaper and Corsair leaks
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>>53961673
desu the only redeeming feature of this is that drones can protect him.
pretty average for whats in the book, and could be killed in 1 turn by pretty much any big model if it werent for the drones
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Updated Krieg List
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Chaos Sisters when?
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What does everyone here use to convert EPUBs to PDFs? Calibre failed me. Gets to 47% then stops
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>>53961711
They all Grey Knight paint now
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>>53961106
Quick reminder that the Tau'nar automatically hits with its crushing feet, for 15 autohits at full wounds.
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>>53961716
Just change *.epub to *.PDF
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>>53961680
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>>53961721
How are you getting that?
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>>53961736
>crushing feet: make three hits for each attack with this weapon
Not "hit rolls", "hits". I mean, it's obvious what it should say, but forgeworld will as forgeworld do.
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>>53961731

Thanks mate, you got the other eldar ones?
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>>53961721
And corsairs have optional detrimental rule that serves no purpose.
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>>53961746
Is he aroused or unnaturally disgusted by her lack of a soul?
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>>53961751
Holy shit, I didn't notice that.
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>>53961716
it doesn't really stop aslong as it says "working" but it took 27h for me to convert to pdf and the text was fucked so nfi

>>53961725
doesn't work for me
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>>53961746
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>>53961755
yes
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>>53961744

That's ok, the Nids get a creature that only hits on a roll of 3.
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>>53961755
Papa Nurgle says its the same feeling.
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>>53961755
I noticed this too it states that I "may" use reckless abandon LOL. Needs to be fixed
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>>53961776
Err Dancing on the Blades edge
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>Just finished converting a remora from a recon drone which took me a few weeks to design/get right
>Only fielded it once ever because cusp of 8th
>It's now fucking dogshit

Fuck my soul, senpaitachi
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>>53961772
Top fucking kek
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>>53961776
I think the idea is to discard highest, cos later it states "but" as if first part is a benefit.
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>>53961772
What does macro mean? Wounds carry over or some shit?
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>>53961762
Yeah there is someone that manages to do it for all the digital releases. Both methods don't work for me and Epub is garbage...
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>>53961791
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>>53961784
Send Nudes
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I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

SLAANESH, GIVE ME FUCKING LEWDS
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>>53961784
you could your fucking complaining
i get to buy a 24£ command squad on top of every 48£ drop troop squad i buy if i want to stay wysiwyg, the old sergeants are useless now
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>>53961808
*you could stop
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>>53961600
Thank you man, it really is helpful.
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>>53961678
Wait, do I set up the drill within 9" or drill and vets both?
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>if the model is equipped with a Kustom Force Field
>Wargear options: none

What
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>>53961805
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>>53961835
They are considered one unit when being set up, then separate from that moment on.
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>>53961805
>>>/e/
>>>/h/
>>>/d/
No need to thank me.
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>>53961851

>Of course, if I'd realized what throwing that piece of chalk would unleash, I'd have ignored her daydreaming, dismissed the class and hidden in the deepest recesses of the schola. But, as it was, I remained blissfully unawares, and so I continued to teach my class, confident that my wayward pupil would prove to be no more of a problem than the canteen running out of amasec.
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>>53961862

>e
>d
>h

Those card-playing perverts were hiding right under our noses!
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>>53961870

Why do you have to make me sad that there won't be any more Cain books.
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Going first is for suckers.
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>>53961920
Fluffy and good.
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>>53961772
is it me or is this unit actually quite shite?
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>>53961861
Well, poop.
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>Skitarii Vanguards
How would you equip them? I thought about Omnispex, 3 Plasma Caliver, and let the Alpha have no extras. Still not sold on the melee weapons for the alpha, are they worth? Or any other weapon than the radium carbine?
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>>53961970
2 Calivers 1 Arc Rifle

Give the Alpha a Radium Pistol and a close combat weapon of your choice.
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>>53961947

No? It's between a warhound and a reaver in both durability and cost, and it's guns pack a hell of a wallop. It can on average kill a warhound in a single shooting phase without even powering up. It half kills a reaver if it does power up. And it's no slouch in CC either. And can drop off a full brood of genestealers WITH a broodlord while it does so.
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Corsair point costs please? Also can they be ran in an Ynarri army and benefit from SFD?
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>>53962041
I'm still not convinced you want pistols on skitarii alphas. A single extra shot in close combat isn't worth losing 3 shots at range IMO.
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>>53961731
Thanks! Any chance you could give us Cloud dancers, Hornets and the Lynx?
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>malcador defender adds 1 to hit rolls on over watch
>over watch always requires a 6 to hit irregardless of ballistic skill or any modifiers
whew lad
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>>53961915

What happened to Sandy Mitchell anyway?

>>53962096
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Is there a model you hold near and dear? Was it a guardsmen that slayed a daemon or a pathfinder who sniped a tank? Tell me about your dude, what did he do?
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>>53961970
>Still not sold on the melee weapons for the alpha, are they worth?
In my initial games so far vanguard have been a screening force for the rest of my army. Generally they get assaulted turn 2/3 so putting the wargear on the alpha isnt the worst idea.

Tbqh tho troops seem like a waste for Admech at the moment. 5 rangers with snipers seems mandatory for the chance of picking of support characters against some armies but other then that the points are better spent elsewhere(read as heavy support).
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>>53962123

Index special rules doesn't take preference to main rules this edition?
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>>53962092
Can you equip both the CC weapon and the standard carbine? If so do that.
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Did the Manta get rules?
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>>53961106
Tau'dar?
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>>53962173
The index rule doesn't change the main rule. It just states you have +1 for the roll. RAW, that +1 is useless.
Only a dummy wouldn't understand the intent of the rule and play as intended though, but we reach new levels of autism on a daily basis in here
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>>53962186
6E is the best E
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Can someone leak Renegades and Heretics? Pretty please?
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the chaos contemptor has a weapon called the "soulburner" which is fist weapon, what current forgeworld weapon would best represent this?
flamer?
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>>53962195
It's not really autism.

We're /tg/. It's munchkinism/selective-rules-lawyering. Going RAW/RAI when it suits you. The MtG peeps have to deal with that, the D&D ones do, etc.
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>>53962218
https://mega.nz/#!9bBhGaDA!0JoaCNtFINcR1DUI6wYzvWN0VhNa2znSeCeQiXZj4MA

Look in the previous threads first you faggot
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>>53962239
Sounds like a fancy, trademarkable heavy flamer.
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NEW RENEGADE ARMY SUCKS

We lost all our tools, and gained nothing.

The hyped plague ogryns insta-die on a roll of 1 with their drugs. They have same toughness, same wounds, but gain a 6+ invul save. LOL. They're also more expensive that regular ogryns.

We had more auras in fucking 7th.

Our important characters don't have the CHARACTER RULE so will be shit on by lascannons T1.

Lost the crazy access to cool wargear,
lost all the cool special rules from alt-FoC
, lost the cheap vehicles (we pay same as IG),
our infantry is 1/3th as effective as vanilla conscripts,
lost our veterans,
we lost chemical flamers,
we lost access to mass heavy weapons,
we lost access to mass special weapons in our infantry lists (it used to be flat 2 special weapons PLUS another one per 4-5 models, now it's ONE per FUCKING 10)
The new chaos covenant rules are shitty
We lost the ability to make faux scions
We lost our FUCKING RENEGADE BANEBLADE AURA IN THE FUCKING AURA-EDITION
We lost sniper rifles in the sniper rifle edition
We lost outflanking hordes (mutant rabble useless now)

All our rules are still written in the early 7th mindset, all the drugs are outdated, our expensive boogeyman "moral killers" add 1 to the enemy battle shock test (LOL), unit special rules are watered down and turned into +6 invuls (not FNP) or "re-rolls 1 in this very specific scenario where you're dead already"

No plague zombies,
no "special" synergy with CSM or Chaos anymore,
no banner spam,
no squad demagogue sergeants
no access to special (outdated) FW tanks,

Our "mortal wound" options are worse than generic army variants, even if the ruling is exactly the same. Instead of 1d6 mortal wounds we deal "1", always.
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>>53962280
Our HW squads are strictly worse than vanilla IG
Our shooting is worse than IG, and we still pay the same PPM
Our infantry wargear selection is worse
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Where do you guys draw the line at magnetization? I am magnetizing my Captain and am tempted to do all my sergeants as well
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>>53962280
>>53962292
Truly this is a propaganda victory for the Imperial Guard. THIS is what happens when you desert you seditious fucks.
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>>53962280
>>53962292
In other words...


Just use GSC + IG for now.
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>>53962300
You aren't a true magnetizer unless you magnetize so much that you don't use any glue at all when building models.
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>>53962300
I'm more of a modeler than a gamer so I tend not to magnetize anything.

Plus, those magnets are expensive adn hard to get.
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>>53962300
I don't magnetise infantry because they are (Relatively) cheap and I have enough spare that I can't fit in a 2000 point list to fill all combinations of wargear.

Then again, I'm IG so I probably have more spare troops than a SM player.

If you have the patience and the skill, go for it, but be warned that the smaller the model, the easier it is to fuck it up with the drill.
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>>53962280

Frankly just about everything in the FW books is incredibly bland. The Kustom Stompa which once had an entire page of wargear options now has....5. The two Ork characters went from having flavourful and interesting rules to...nothing.
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>>53961154
Blood Axes are best klan.
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>>53962328
You are so retatded.
It literraly means nothing.
Also, go back to your broken 7th.
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Ok which one of you fuckers did this?

https://wertstammer40k.wordpress.com/category/list-builder-update/
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>>53962135

Is there a rules page for the corsairs? I wanna know if they can take deldar vehicles and if they can benefit from Ynarri soulburst
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>>53962328
>before there was many option nobody took and now there is only the option people take and that can be balanced.

wow so bad much drama very sad
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>>53962342
Why are all these cool probono programmers always spineless cowards ?
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>>53962342
Jesus christ. I've been waiting for that shit to have admech up and they just started it. GW are such knob gobblers.
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>>53962342
J U S T
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>>53962342
It was that one fucker who linked it to their goybook staff a while back
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>>53962342
Fuck. That was unexpected.
Do you think the other listbuilders will get C&D'd too? They use 40k points and rules too.
Is New© GW™ shitting on fan-made list-builders just to sell their future Imperial Rosterscribe™?
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>>53962342
>https://wertstammer40k.wordpress.com/category/list-builder-update/
How is using GW artwork and images copy write infringement? He wasnt making money or producing anything.
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>>53962388
Well they did say it would be free just like their AoS one
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>>53962342
That's what he gets for starting a patreon instead of hiding a paypal link on his website.

FUCKING IDIOT.

"Why did it suddenly happen : ("

Patreon.
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>>53962384
gone
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>>53962391
He has a new patreon link, he directly gets money from GW assets.
He's an idiot, he was too greedy to just stick a "help me with my studies :)" paypal link in the corner.
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>>53962393
It better be as good as this one or they'll hear about it
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>>53962391
he was making lots faggot. look >>53962396
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>>53962393
The AoS listbuilder app seems to have some in app purchases, what are they?
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>>53962419
depends which ine you talk about
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>>53962406
>He has a new patreon link
Oh I didnt even notice. What a fucking retard. Dude could have added a banner and made more money off ads.

>>53962418
>Patreon
>Lots
kys
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>>53962384
in the same place as all your lasgun sergeants
the fucking trash
fuck forgeworld
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Can someone fetch me a screenshot of the Skitarii Vanguard please? Can't open PDFs here at work. Thanks anons.
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>>53962406
>just stick a "help me with my studies :)" paypal link in the corner
It wouldn't change anything you know
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Skatach WK rules please!
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Can I get some color scheme advice for my tzeentch cultists, /40kg/? They're going to be "conscripts" for my tzeentchian renegades. First time I've painted anything in ~8 years, so I know it's not well done, but I'm also not happy with the paint scheme. Any suggestions?

inb4 "it's shit m8"
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>>53962423
Like the "Azyr Subscription" or the battletomes. What are they? Are the battletomes just digital copies of the codex equivalents?
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>>53962448
>He wants to play renegades

Son I have bad news for you . .
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>>53962342
Whelp, guess my dumbass group is back to power points.
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>>53962419
app? I was referring to their website https://www.warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/
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>medusa's are now indirect fire
What is this shit?
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>>53962448
I'm usually partial to blues and light greys/white for Tzeentch, but have you tried searching for Tzeentch Cultists or something and seen if you could find any cool scheme?

Also it's shit m8
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>>53962462
I've hear anon, but i'm just gonna play "counts as" IG
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can someone please post the vendetta plus point cost?
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>>53962448
Thin your fuckin paints
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>>53961149
I am going to enjoy my missile launcher that fires grenades.
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>>53962342
what? making a list isn't any harder than old editions, pay for dudes then pay for wargear done.

book has just changed layout, again. but eveything on one page makes things easy.
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Anybody able to post rules for Vendetta and Vulture?
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>>53962514
Different anon here. The one thing that irritates me is that the wargear lists aren't on the same page as the points costs, but instead located separately at the start of each army's section.
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>>53962494

Valk body with 3 twin lascannons, carries 12, optional 2x heavy bolters.

230pt without HB

I am quite disappointed that most IG flyers hit on 5+
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>>53962514
>building lists is doable so there's no need for tools allowing you to build them faster and get a clean visual representation of them
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On the bright side, now that all the interesting rules for DKoK are gone I have almost no desire to collect them anymore, which will save me over two thousand dollars that would have been spent on the infantry alone.
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Can someone explain to me why the power points for the Dimachaeron and the Malanthrope are the same but points-wise the malanthrope is less than half?
Atleast that means I can use them both without paying out the ass like the malanthrope preview hinted at.
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>>53962562
because it's a typo and FW teams apparently don't proofread
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Are those new termies in the back?
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>>53962572
look like good ol' regular termies
The tank on the back is the Repressor (or whatever that Primaris tank is) though
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>>53962386
yep, this is why we cant have nice things
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>>53962350
There sadly is not much on them, no real list for them at this time.
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>>53962581
Do we know if new termies are coming? Or just regular primaris?
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>>53962572
Don't see how those are different to current Indomitus termies.
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>>53961202
Deploying a full squad of IG veterens + vox caster from a vehicle right in front of any kind of infantry, and blowing it to shit with 40 3+ S3 hits due to pic related.

Not saying it's game breaking, but I tried my friends IG army for the first time yesterday and was amazed at how much unexpected surprise firepower the IG can bring if your being a sneaky git about it.
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45 goddamn points for a S10 assault unit that gets an effective 18 inch move on turn one, and 6 wounds each,
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>>53962386
This:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2185
...probably didn't help.
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>>53962597
No words on new termies. The only clue about their existence is in that Girlyman novel. Apparently they're carrying double-flamers + cyclone missile launcher if I remember well (would appreciate if someone who actually red the book could confirm)
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>>53962588

Not even a page saying they can use vehicles? Gay
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>>53961106
what is it with /40kg/ and having dumb faggots that don't know how to make threads making the thread?
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>>53962610
The trojan and the salamander are insane too and the airborne units seem worth using
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Why don't GW and FW communicate? They keep throwing petty fits at each other, when 7th was made FW wasn't allowed to view it until release, and it looks like it was barely better for 8th. How can two sections of the same corporation hate each other so much?
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>>53962691
Vulture is damn nice really, with the twin Punisher. I can see a Trojan being a great buy for an artillery heavy army, sit in the back field and pink shit.
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>>53962646
There is nothing aside from them existing and having a keyword line for their stuff, no real special rules army-wide yet or anything. You'd just build them as a standard Eldar list and take whatever you want inside that Eldar list.
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Well,well. I guess my Scorpion will finally see serious play again.

>Heavy 4d6
>MFW there isn't a reaction image good enough for this

650pts of rape.


>>53962388
Unlikely, Because the other listbuilders such as battlescribe and armybuilder do not provide the files themselves, they are simply frameworks leveraged by 3rd party data maintainers.

if you don't like something about the battlescribe files the best thing you can do is help the current team or fork it and make your own version with blackjack and hookers, it's a lot easier than it looks.
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>>53961680
MEGA?
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>>53962546

thanks. its nice to see that the vendetta can now carry 12 guys as well.
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>>53962766

...the Scorpion pulsar's damage code makes no sense. It's a flat 3 but it says '2d6 rather than 1d6'
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Is there any info on if there is going to be another Imperial armour soon? That can't be it right?
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Has anyone's seen the Repressor's statline?
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>>53962041
Why the Arc Rifle and not 3 Plasmas? What's the purpose of the Rifle if you already have anti-tank on your crawler with the Neutron Laser?
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So now that we have Forgeworld Indexes, when's the next release?
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>>53962766
>Damage: 3
>Special ability: Any roll to 6 resolved with damage of 2d6 instead of D6.
FW, are you even trying?
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>>53962551
well yeah. they're convinient and I'll probably use one sometimes.

but they're hardly a needed thing like that guys letter suggests
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>>53962631
Also double fists and iirc they're gravis
Called... Aggressors?
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>>53962793
>>53962822
>it keeps happening
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So is there a PC Ebook reader that can actually open the FW Guard ebook? I've tried several already
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>>53962795
Probably the same as the other indices. They'll expand and proof read. Just had to set the baseline
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>>53962766

How does it manage the 17-20 movement to get the 4+? It's only M14
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>>53962826
I would rather prefer convenience over inconvenience.
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>>53962610
Vs Rhino
3*(1/2)*(2/3)*(2/3)*2=1.333...
Vs Muhreen
3*(1/2)*(5/6)*(2/3)=0.833....

Oh I am quaking.
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>>53962793
I know, and as much as flat 3 would please me, the intent seems to have been for it to be D6 > 2D6 like the other heavy anti-titan weapons (see: falchion and shadowsword)

the fire rate is what makes me happy in the pants though, it makes it effective against most targets, even if you have to blow it against infantry.
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>>53962849
Advance i would think.
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>>53962835
Oh so they're Gravis and not Termis per se? Interesting. I guess they're more equivalent to Devastator Centurions then
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>>53962618

>Atia links it 15 hours ago
>GW shuts it down 14 hours later

Yeah that was no fucking co-incidence. Mind you the guy was a moron for putting up a Patreon link, that completely sealed his fate.
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>>53962849
its assuming you advance and roll a 3 or better.

might be ok for a super-survival mode combined with vectored and star engines.
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>>53962849
Advances and rolls a 3-6.
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>>53962869

Doesn't that happen in shooting, not movement? It's how far it moved in your last movement phase.
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>>53962886
>Doesn't that happen in shooting, not movement?
No it does not.
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>>53962835
That actually sounds pretty cool, anybody have an idea about release?
>>53962871
Isn't Gravis specifically stated to be an equivalent of Termie armor?
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>>53962886
no, advance is part of movement, which actually makes it a serious choice because there are no more takebacks or time to think about it while you shoot other units
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>>53962892

My bad.
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Is Scorpion the same size as Lynx? Can i proxy with Lynx model?
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>>53962599
Well they're substantially taller than the chadmarines.
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>>53962895
>That actually sounds pretty cool, anybody have an idea about release?
No, as I already said >>53962631
>Isn't Gravis specifically stated to be an equivalent of Termie armor?
I didn't read anything about this but I guess it's possible
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>>53962908
no, they are completely different, the scorpion is turreted for one, and significantly wider (I own both, Xenos Index has been dope as fuck)
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>>53962910
No, that's just because of the perspective. They're on the background and thanks to the angle of the shot they are above the primarines
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>>53962838
Readium works fine for me.
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>>53962919
Is Lynx look good for you in 8th? Cant appraise its value cos it was mainly "point at knight and shoot" for me in 7.
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Zhadsnark looks like being an auto-include if you want a Warboss on a bike with PK. He's only 110 points whereas a Warboss on Warbike with a Power Klaw is 111. Zhard gets:

+1 Movement
+1 Wound
+1 Attack
+18" range on his guns
+1 AP on his Power Klaw, along with 6's to hit causing automatic additional mortal wound on Monsters or Infantry.
Automatic 6" advance move instead of D6

About the only benefit I can see of the vanilla Warboss is that he can do Breaking 'Eads on non-Evil Suns units.
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>>53962895
Makes me even more worried for the fluff then if they have jetpack terminators
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>>53962809
It's just useful to have mobile anti-tank. Also each set only comes with 1 plasma caliver.
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>>53962951
>jetpack terminators
Is that a thing? I mean as in mentioned in the books or something
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>>53961106
tau commander with four burst cannons.... commander badass?
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I'm thinking of doing up a Love Can Bloom Diorama. Any tips from you Eldar players about converting Taldeer?
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how's my list look?
>DE, 1000 pts
HQ: Archon: Blaster/huskblade, 79 pts
___Succubus: Splinter Pistol, Archite Glaive, 72 pts

Elites: Incubi: 4x incubi, 1x klaivex with demiklaives, 98 pts
______Kabalite Trueborn: 1x Dracon with Phantasm Grenade Launcher, 4x trueborn with blasters, 118 pts

Fast Attack: Reavers: Arena Champion with Agonizer, 2 reavers with heat lances, 2 reavers with Grav-Talons, 1 reaver, 244 pts
___________Hellions: Helliarch with power sword, 4 hellions with hellglaive, 89 pts
___________Hellions: Helliarch with power sword, 4 hellions with hellglaive, 89 pts

Dedicated Transport: Raider: Dark Lance, Shock Prow(For Archon, succubus, incubi), 116 pts
__________________Venom: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon(For Trueborn Squad), 95 points
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>>53962970
Here are some jetpack Gravis.
How long was your coma?
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>>53962983
>>>/1d4chan/
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>>53962941
Thank you anon!
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>>53962950
>da pain saw
>is literally a killsaw
>worse than killsaw
It's by no means the worst fw fuckup, but I'm just getting depressed by this. £16 is too much to ask for rules like fucking buzzgob or the tiger shark, where the model is broken on a fundamental level.
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>>53962988
Gravis armor isn't a terminator armor equivalent
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>>53962970
>>53962988

They are not terminators. 2 wounds but no 2+ save or Inv save.
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>>53962983
>Not converting GW approved Roboute and Yvraine
Get over with this heretic
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>>53962968
But doesn't the whole squad needs to fire at the tank or can the special weapons choose their target individually? It feels wasted to fire a lot of dakka into a tank if you only have 1 anti-tank in there.
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>>53963004
>>53963003
I know, but >>53962895 apparently thought so.
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Post fanart that makes you really think
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>>53963020
8th brought unlimited split fire for everyone senpai
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>>53963015
>Google Roboute and Yvraine
>heresy.jpg
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>>53963034
REMOVE XENO
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>>53963040
I tried, but his armor revives him.
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>>53963015

You know, considering they fought side by side and St Celestine spent most of her time there trying to keep the Eldar and Marines from killing each other, I'd be rather interested in seeing Celestine and Yvraine having a talk outside a battle scenario.
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>>53963034
>Not lovingly gripping her entire ribcage with one of his super shovel-hands.
Pff.
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>>53963033
Ah, that makes the Arc Rifle choice decent enough. Thanks!
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>>53963034
>>53963040
does it upset you?
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>>53961154
Deathskulls with looted Blood Axes.
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>>53963020
Everyone has split fire now so you can bust a tank while your carbines shred infantry.
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>>53963047
You mean how Tigurius defended Eldar.
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>>53963066

St Celestine spent a lot of the trip going 'Calm the fuck down marines/inquisitor and trust me, I got this'
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>>53963034

Who did it better?
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>>53963079
One pair is canon, other character does not exist and other is dead.
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>>53961746
source?
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>>53962156
Timmy the Trooper
He was a genestealer whose entire squad for wiped in a botched combat, but he successfully stuck 3 skitarii vanguard units in combat for 2 turns worth of combat
>I only won that game because he stopped my opponent from shooting
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>>53963066
Yea, the time when Eldar saved Girlyman from getting destroyed along with his stasis thing by hordes of chaos.
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>>53963000
>>53962822

>All these people complaining FW doesn't give enough W for their P.
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>>53961154
Blue and black camo
The ultimate team-up
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>>53963090
C'mon now anon. Girlyman isn't dead anymore.
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>>53963122
I meant Taldeer.
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>>53963105
I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not
People are complaining that FW has released reasonably priced rules, but they're written even worse than GW's indices, with models completely lacking options that they have rules for, being completely unable to fire their weapons, hitting on not a 3+ but a flat 3, and so on. Nearly every non-space marine FW unit I've seen has had a fuckup as bad as infinite celestines.
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>>53963137
Killed by CS:GOto?
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>>53963137
>I meant Taldeer.
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Give it to me straight, are nid titans still trash
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>There's a model for a Krieg Heavy Weapons team with a Twin Heavy Stubber
>They can't actually take Twin Heavy Stubbers

Why would I get a weapon team just to put a weaker Heavy Bolter on it? The twin linked would've been cool
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>>53961711
Around the same time they do plastic sisters.
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>>53963170
You won't be playing it in any Tourny. Just pay for two HS if your local gamebros are happy with it.
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>>53962572
Nope.
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Can somebody please post the FW tau commander?

I just woke up
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>>53963194
MEGA
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>>53962745
ask konami
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>>53963198
MEGA is blocked at work

Its weird that 4chan isnt, I know
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>>53963151
Killed in DOW2 Retribution.
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>>53963216
Same here Anon.
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>>53963160
Hierodules are decent, shooty one is better than choppy, they're proper knight-equivalents now. Harridan is cool but lacks a good niche. hierophant is insanely killy against titan-esque units with shooting but not so great for its points in CC, thankfully it can spawn a tarpit of genestealers complete with broodlord. Overall the hierodules are buffed to knight-equivalency, hierophant is now average for its price like all big titans, but its good against massive centrepiece models like lighter enemy titans-compare it to a warhound and enjoy the erection.
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>>53962990
Someone wantig to have fun and doing hobbystuff?
Not on my tg!
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>>53963216
>Has job
>contributes to society
I got you.
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>>53963034
>his hands are smaller than hers
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>>53963242
Make tg Great Again!
>>53963253
Idk man. His hands are pretty bigly
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The Burst Cannon variant of this is hardly awful, though not amazing either and Tau aren't hurting for S5 spam platforms.

Unique weapons are garbage though.

Best use I can think of for this model is as a proxy for a four fusion commander.
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>>53962946
it looks pretty decent, however I have the older sonic lance variant which will be great for roasty-toasty elite infantry. The pulsar variant looks decidedly mediocre and I think a pair of fire prisms will do the same job for about the same price with more flexibility.

It still makes a nice centerpiece though,
>>
Why is the list builder site blank to me and the updates section is twitchinn
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>>53963216
>>53963243
I'm a salty Elysian Player as you may tell from the file names.
>moment silence for the glorious 23rd
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>>53963280
Got taken down
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>>53963160
Hierodules are slightly cheaper than knights, fast and stronger in combat
Harridans lost their gimmicky snapshot defense but have plenty of wounds, and can zip 30" around the table splatting things at will
Hierophant is an absolute beast that will now easily take on Warhounds and give much more expensive Reavers a good fight

Basically, nids win
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>>53963269
Yea, sonic lance looks pretty good now.
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>>53963216
>>53963243
>>53963283
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Anyone managed to convert to pdf yet? Epub is fucking useless
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>>53963288
Why?
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>>53963283
Ralai seems to have survived quite well. I don't look forward to fighting against him (Friend has been playing him since 5th I think, nearly since he was released)
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Post yfw Krieg infantry have lasguns, 3 attacks hitting on 3+, fight again when they die, and cost 5 points.
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>>53962135
Lovely, thanks again.

But wow, they really rushed this together.

"The Felarch may replace its lasblaster for one of the following:"
It doesn't even come with one....

And it sucks a bit you can't run the cloud dancers dedicated to CC like in 7:th. I got a unit built with swords that I wont be able to use anymore.
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>>53963283

For a guy who gets bonuses vs characters and only does 1 damage, I'm surprised he's not actually got the sniper rule to target them.
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>>53963304
Someone sent it to goyworkshop
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>>53963304
Cos GW fucknuggets did not took lightly to the idiot dev making a patreon.
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>>53963216
>>53963243
>>53963283
>>53963299
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>>53963310
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>>53963304
Because he was a moron and used a bunch of GW stock image content, including the 40k brandmark which GW actually has a duty to defend the use of (its bar-none the fastest way to get legal's attention if found out) and to top it all off began monetizing his work via patreon and ads. To anyone even remotely familiar with how this goes it was a takedown waiting to happen.

Source: was an armybuilder maintainer during the "bad old days" when we had to deal with them being overzealous cunts. now they don't care so long as you put a disclaimer sticker on there, don't use thier website content, and most importantly don't use the brandmark. That's why battlescribe should continue to exist just fine.
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>>53963322
confirmed worse than normal commander
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>>53962156
Centauri X-23

A Skitarii Vanguard Sgt. Who successfully guarded his Dominus across the field, weathered two full Bolt gun volleys, chipped a wound off a Dreadnought with his blast pistol and died while stuck in combat with the Dreadnought.
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>>53963322

Networked markerlight is a nice rule for a missile podded one for boosting Markerlight units.

Cause one Markerlight first on a 2+ to trigger reroll ones, then fire your marker units.

Downside is wasting a support slot on a fucking target lock, when I'd rather be taking twin missile pods and a drone controller.
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>>53963343

>Confirmed worse than normal commander

>Fire twin missile pods, 4 chances on a 2+ of setting up marker reroll ones

Yeah it's a fucking terrible support HQ famalam.
>>
my starting army should be
a tempestor prime, his command squad, and a 5-man scion squad inside a Taurox Prime with another 5-man scio nsquad ready to deepstrike

they have a veteran autocannon squad and a leman russ for support

should i add the 2 commissars i have with me to the army list?
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>>53963243
>Upgraded Shield Generator
>same effect as a regular shield generator
>s5
>melee weapon is s4

Wow this guy... kinda sucks

>>53963266
This is pretty good. Give them an ATS and they chew through infantry. 16 shots at S5 AP1 is better than a riptide.
5 wounds each, too.

>>53963283
Seems good at first but I think at a second look he will be pretty shit. Regular Commander seems better at everything.

>>53963299
Don't see myself ever using this
>3 hard points
Why

>>53963322
Why does it have the rules for Target Lock written out? It's doesn't say it is equipped with a TL

Also
>2 hard points
Why
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>>53963170
Just field it as an autocannon.
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RAW, does the master of ordinance get to fire artillery barriage ever? It's just a 'weapon' he doesn't have listed on the datasheet.
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Can i use gate of infinity on a gk dreadnought? What about vehicles in general?
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So, I took what I had of my Vraks Renegades and basically allied them with the DI box set and some other DG stuff I happen to own. How does this fairs at 2000pts ?

+++Batailon Detachment+++

HQ
Typhus – 164pts
Winged Daemon Prince of Chaos – Mark of Nurgle, 2x Chaos Claws – 180pts

TROOP
x20 Poxwalkers – 120pts
x20 Poxwalkers – 120pts
x7 Plague Marines – Plasma Rifle - 160pts

TRANSPORT
Chaos Rhino – Combi Bolter – 72pts

ELITE
x11 Renegade Disciples – Covenant of Nurgle, Missile Launcher – 86pts
x10 Renegade Disciples – Covenant of Nurgle, Missile Launcher – 80pts
x10 Renegade Disciples – Covenant of Nurgle, Missile Launcher – 80pts

FAST ATTACK
Foetid Bloat-Drone - 158pts


+++Spearhead Detachment+++

HQ
Malignant Plaguecaster - 110pts

HEAVY SUPPORT
Armageddon Pattern Medusa – Medusa siege gun, Heavy Bolter – 111pts
Hellforged Leviathan Dreadnought – x2 Grav-flux Bombard – 305pts
Wyvern – Heavy Bolter - 93pts
Chaos Vindicator - 160pts
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>>53963448
He's a big guy
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>>53963453
RAI he has it, just typoed.
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>>53963448

I like that they didn't paint the Leviathan so the Redemptor didn't look like ass next to it.
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>>53963456
Is it a unit with the GREY KNIGHTS keyword? Yes.

So it works normally. Teleport your Land Raider all you want.
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>>53963462
UUUU
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>>53963488
It feels like a faqable rule to me...
Btw, is there a reason to use librarians over grand masters? Do they use regular smite instead of banishment smite?
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>>53961465
The fluff is just an excuse so that all you autistic assholes don't reeeeeeee when they make new marines that are so good they make your old ones look like trash.
They really are wonderful sculpts and look amazing in person. I'm looking forward to more primaris scale releases. But maybe I'm just easily impressed because I also think the jet pack guys look sick. Astronauts with two maxim guns. I like it.
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>>53963448
Oh god, it's so ugly and blocky. The fact that it tops the Leviathan in size makes it even worse.
>>
Does anyone actually think all the dumb Verbnoun Nounverb names GW keeps coming out with are cool and not embarrassing?
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>>53962280
And as it used to be a WAAC faggot tourney teir army...
Stay fucked.


>>53962342
Oh goddammit. Best army builder out there.
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>>53963448
>Fan
Your store hasn't implemented a hygeine policy yet huh?
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>>53963543
The worst thing is the mish-mash of design styles. Blocky on some parts, rounder on other parts. Space marines were all about roundish troops and blockier vehicles, now it's a mix everywhere
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>>53963428
>3 hard points
>why
Because you get the missile pod you fuckwit

>2 hard points
>why
Inexcusable. Have to see how many points he costs, but he's definitely a support unit, to start markerlight chains. He will not be filling in for a regular commander.
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>>53963448
They could have simply used leviathan legs. But no, they preferred to go for ugly stuff. Also that missile pod is horrible
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>>53963544
>Asuryani Aeldarii
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>>53962156
This Skitarii took the last hull point off a charging Knight in overwatch. I don't have a name for him and he needs to be repainted, but I love him.
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>>53963544
Copyrights for fucks sake thats why. Same with AM
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>>53963569
>Inexcusable. Have to see how many points he costs, but he's definitely a support unit, to start markerlight chains.
We could just take a Fireblade to do the same thing
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>tau drones can heal d3 wounds per turn
>no limit on how many times a unit can be healed this way

Are you guys ready for Riptides to come back?
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>want to play AdMech
>dislike the red from Mars
>like the gray-ist from Agripinaa
>want to play Cawl somewhere in the future
>he states 'MARS' units in his rules
How many triggers do I get if I insist that my Agripinaa-colored dudes want to profit from this buff?
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>>53963310
Confirmed or are you speculating?
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>>53963662
None. Fuck the autists and enjoy the hobby any way you like.
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>>53963663
http://imgur.com/a/NfcUr

Confirmed.

Regiment banner + priest + Duty until death! order on stock standard Infantry platoons.
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>>53963674
Also if they have a regimental banner and platoon banner next to Marshall Venner they have a 12'' bubble of leadership 11.
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>>53963662
Literally nobody will care if you run the rules for mars and paint them agripinaa. In other armies at least it would be weird because they have different characters for different subfactions, but admech literally only have mars.
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>>53963674
>>53963691
Aye, thanks. Just thought it might offend people who play very WYSIWYG-oriented.
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So I've read conflicting reports about the valkyrie's space flight capabilities. FW says they're atmosphere only, but some GW stuff has had them deploy from orbit.

So how would valks deploy from navy ships. Does it enter the upper atmosphere to deploy and pick them up? Or can valks break through into orbit?
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>>53963752
most recent material has them using a much larger transfer 'carrier' to reach orbit.
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>>53963752
>drop them out of the spaceship in orbit
>they can't fly, only plummet
>once they fall into atmosphere, switch the engines on
Not seeing the contradiction. It's no stupider than a lot of the imperium's solutions to problems, after all.

>but anon, how do they get them back
Same way as with drop pods.
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>>53963752
Personally I don't see a Valk or Marauder or any Aeronautica Imperalis aircraft having an easy "re-entry"("entry?").
I'd like to think they're deployed in atmosphere or shuttled down.
I can't remember how Dan Annett did it in that novel of his.
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>>53963820
And how do they get drop pods back?
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>>53963835
The Neophytes carry them back to prove their leadership skills. #40kstretchercarry
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>>53963752
Depends on the model, same as with every type of vehicle/weapon. I'm sure there are some forgeworlds out there that make valkyries capable of deploying from space. They'd be shit for inter planetary flight but sure I could see them dropping from orbit.
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can someone post the rules of the tetra pls?
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Why the fuck is the Conqueror 110 points base? Isn't it just a leman russ chassis?
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>>53963918
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>>53963963
Someone fucked up, just like every other of the myriad errors within the Index.
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>>53963993

Yeah tetras are looking like the new best way to Markerlight things.

Also the rail rifle Pirhana looks really good.
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>>53961772
Why do you think tthat only hits on a 3?
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>>53963963
Because it's shit.
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>>53964043
If it hit on a 3 or higher, it would say 3+ (check almost every other datasheet in the game).
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>>53961106
>Can't Fall Back and Shoot
So much supremacy.
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>>53964107
I also think the FW writers maybe didn't realise how much stuff has the FLY keyword when they wrote its rules.
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Anyone playing the tabletop wargaming in TTS?
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>>53964124
The fly keyword is a bit stupid in design. In the simplest terms of the word, it's to denote units that can fly.

But the bit where it lets them shoot in the same turn as they retreat from combat seems to be more fitting of the more agile kind of flying units, the nippier kinds. I'm talking nothing bigger than a Crisis suit, THAT is pushing it but would be too hard of a kick to the nards for Tau. Instead we get big bulky fuckers with the ability to pull out of combat and immediately turn their guns on the enemies they were in hand to hand combat with moments ago.

That part should have been a separate keyword that went only to agile flying units. Now we have shit like Riptides nipping in and out of combat like a ballerina.
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Can't open epub in a readable manner; can anyone grab the commissariat tank commander please?

Or otherwise, bump for pdf justice
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>>53963515
>It feels like a faqable rule to me...
Why? Vehicles are probably the worst targets for Gate of Infinity.

>Btw, is there a reason to use librarians over grand masters? Do they use regular smite instead of banishment smite?
They don't get the Rite of Banishment rule so they have regular smite. Also, +1 to DtW and access to storm shields for a 2++ in melee.
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>>53964357
Sorry, I didn't mean in terms of flying things retreating from combat, I meant that tyranid gargoyles and tau gun drones are capable of blocking in the tau'nar.
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>>53964362
There is no Commissar Tank Commander?
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>>53964415

Well that's shitty; there was in 6-7th and they still sell the model
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Hmm, would replacing the gun on a sentinel with a second Chainsword make for a good sentinel power lifter conversion for my genecult?
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>>53964466
There is also no ork meka-dread in the index, and tau are missing half the models for the units in the index.
FW is notoriously inconsistent with every line other than space marines. Units don't sell well and instead of updating their rules for the first time in 3 editions, or making them half decent of the battlefield, or making them cost less than your firstborn child, they just pull them.
People complain about GW logic but FW logic is so much worse. Buy your favourite units now in case FW discontinues them tomorrow.

Also, I mean, Death Guard can't use terminators. These rules are clearly intended to be slapdash "get you by"s
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>>53964486
Or, just find some large enough 3rd party servo arms and slap them on.
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>>53964537

Would be good, know of any?
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>>53964486
Can genecult get stuff from the forge-world index?
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>>53964124
The enitre Ta'unar just looks sad. It has HUGE GUNS so it must have HUGE PRICE.

Yeah, but then it's a worse shadosword.
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>>53964580
Not directly, but you could take an allied AM detachment to get it all.
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>>53964616
Hopefully this means people will stop buying the stupid giant suits and tau can go back to infantry, auxilliaries, and vehicles, like good ol' 4/5th edition.
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>>53964651
Yeah, fuck the giant suits. The Tau should have never gotten anything bigger than a Broadside in the first place.
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>>53964646

You can also ally in a Hierodule or something if you need a superheavy. (Maybe fluff having a low number of Nids as excavating survivors from a crashed hive ship or something? That's came up in several black library books)

Forge world was very kind to us genecultists.
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>>53964616
>worse than a shadowsword
This is what people who can't into basic arithmetic actually beleive.
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>>53964684
Big broadsides I could kind of understand, but I always loved the old ones with the shoulder slung railguns. I loved that goofier aesthetic older tau had, it felt like they really were experimenting and doing something different. Now we have the fucking stormsurge, quite possibly my least favourite model in the game. And I play vampire counts, who have 2nd ed bat swarms.
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>>53964555
>>53964537
Yeah, I need some as well. Was already working on a Colonial Marine-themed Scions list, power loaders are a must.
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>>53964616

Does a Shadowsword have ten multi-meltas for arms, 32 S5 shots as tertiary armament and the ability to deflect a volcano cannon onto a nearby repair drone?
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>No Maynarkh Rules in the xenos book

Lame I wanted to use the charnel versions of troops
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>GW CD'ed the best army builder out there since forever
Fuck them
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>>53964823
Not GW's fault the maker was a nu-male trying to make profit from having a website for 'muricans not being able to handle to add up things up to 3000.
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>>53964762
No, but it's about twice better at killing titans for half the price, it can actually use its secondary weaponry because it can fall back and shoot instead of using its ten multi-melta arms on gaunts.
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>>53964843
To be fair he never should have asked for gibs, idiot

I still don't know why GW just didn't either ask for the entire program, or at least say "great idea, but it's ours now"
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>>53964555
One option would be to use the arms off Servitors.
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>>53964844

No no, read again.

The T'aunar can shoot normally whilst locked in combat, except for it's main gun.

It can stomp the Gaunts with it's legs and kill other stuff with the meltas.
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>Warhound turbolasers are now focused vehicle/monster killers and will be relatively ineffective against infantry
>turbo laser/vulcan heavy bolter now completely viable

huh
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>>53964895
You read again. It may fire AT models that are within 1".
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>>53964762
It's main gun isn't even better, vs land raider
3.5*(1/2)*(5/6)*(1)*7=10.2...
3.5 shots, hiting on 4+, wounding on 2+, turning 2+ into 7+ causing 7 damage
6*(5/6)*(2/3)*(5/6)*4=11.11...
6 shots, hiting on 2+, wounding on 3+, turning 2+ into 6+, causing 4 damage

Or vs other baneblade
3.5*(1/2)*(35/36)*(1)*7=11.9097
Now wounds on 2+ rerollable
6*(5/6)*(2/3)*4=13.333
Now turns 3+ into 7+

Vs Warhound
3.5*(1/2)*(35/36)*(1/2)*7=5.95
Here the warhound has a 4++
6*(5/6)*(2/3)*4*(1/2)=6.666...

And that's pitting a general "good at killing everything battlesuit" vs the "speciailsed at killing one specific thing" shadowsword's prefered targets. The secondary weapons being so superior and it being harder to kill are pretty damn obvious. So I have no idea what the hell he is talking about.
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I'm reading the Scion Command Squad right in that you can give the guy hauling the Platoon Standard a special weapon, yeah?
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>>53964925

Are you factoring in that the T'aunar's main guns double damage against superheavy targets?
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>>53964931
Post it, let's see.
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>>53964945
My bad, I was not. It's even more in favour of the Tau'nar then.
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>>53961106

Hmm kinda looks like I'd have been better off with the pulse ordnance multi-driver, but at least my railgun looks cool.
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>>53964925
I kinda tunnel-visioned on the Heavy Railgun. The other main guns are much better.
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>>53964957
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>>53965014
Wait, duh, I'm an idiot, I just noticed the other part there. Ignore me.
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>>53964931
No. One OTHER model
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>>53964555
>>53964754
A quick search found these.
There are other sellers of different kinds, you just gotta look.
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>>53965012
It just goes to show that 4th/5th ed tau were right all along. Putting heavy rail cannons on a giant battlesuit is retarded when you can put twice as many on a cheaper faster flyer instead.
Of course the tiger shark can't shoot said HRCs, but that's a minor problem.
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Question: how BTFO will drone spam be if/when the FAQ clarifies that, even with Saviour Protocols, you still can't allocate wounds away from wounded models?
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So thoughts on the griffon?

78 points for 2D6-take-the-highest STR 6 AP -1 damage D3, ignores cover and LOS shots, 234 for a battery of 3.

Seems okay, its by far the cheapest artillery vehicle IG has now.
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>>53965035

I did have a look about, but apparently my search key words were shit.

All I could think to search was servo-arm, but I couldn't think of a more generic term that'd still lead to model sites.
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>>53965207
>>53965207
>>53965207

new chaos rift
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>>53965170
Unlike a lot of other artillery platforms where you're almost better off buying just that, the platform because of the range and all, the range on the Griffon is such that moving is possibly needed, and also the Heavy Mortar doesn't get its Heavy 2d6 drop lowest thing.

I think they'll actually be pretty to get some hits in.
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As today we have three 40k generals up at once, and two of those are currently past the bump limit:

CHECK IF THERE'S A THREAD UP BEFORE MAKING A NEW ONE YOU FUCKS.

Also, if you do make one do try to get the title etc. right, or some chucklefuck might make an extra thread anyway.
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>>53965216
>>53965265
For fuck's sake. So, at this moment, we have four fucking 40k generals up on the board.
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>>53963034
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>>53961133

God that's fucking terrible.
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>>53963312
they are all a fucking slapdash travesty. lazy typo-ridden trash. I am fuming
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350 pts of Deldari party bus action! action! action!

Honestly it's very over priced but it's still pretty neat if you ask me
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