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"Demons for Days" Edition

Previous Thread: >>53943316

COMMANDAN NEWS

>Commander 2017 Spoilers
http://mythicspoiler.com/c17/index.html

>Latest Commander Ban Announcement
http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18588

>Latest MTGO Banlist Update
http://wizardsmtgo.tumblr.com/post/160343614814/update-mtgo-commander

RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

>/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

CARD SEARCHING

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

Thread Question:
Opinions on HoD so far?
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Your commander is shit.
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>>53953934
I want him in my Black Sidisi deck.
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>>53953871
Just sundering titan because i know mono and two color will be the biggest threats at my lgs and no one would see it coming in a low artifact deck.
>>53953981
Crypt is banned in 1v1
>>53953883
Prizes are too good to not enter and i have a fair chance with my low power meta.
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>mfw his commander can't be a draw, mana, combo, and removal engine when needed
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>>53953934
>8 Mana
>Doesn't win the game automatically
Shit
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>>53953934
I like how the planeswalkers get poop kicked in, and this guy!
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Does anyone else like to RP as their commander during games? :3
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>>53954043
their*
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>>53954056
No, because not all of us are that autistic
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>>53954056
Sometimes I bite my opponent. :^)
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>>53953934
>Opinions on HoD so far?
Meh.
The Last cycle is interesting, but the green one is rather uninteresting, and way to vulnerable.
The green and red Eternalize rares are lackluster as well.
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>>53953934
I absolutely love the new Gods and that demon. Probably just the timmy in me but I really want to build decks around them.
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>>53954043
>tfw recently got a Wheel of Fortune and a Time Spiral
I'm so ready locus man.
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>>53954089
Do you also pop that humongous boner when you do?
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>>53954056
Yes.
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Super hyped for The Scarab God. I was about to rebuild my zombie tribal after I tore apart my Gissa deck a year ago. This big boy gave me the excuse I needed
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Are you guys ready to rise fucking eternal with the new best Mono-Red commander.?

Because I totally am.
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>>53954292
Excuse you
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>>53954288
The only thing I don't like about this guy and what deters me is he literally paints and staples a bulleye to you
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Opinions on Sun Droplet for Orzhov?
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>>53954292
>>that fucking goat skull and beard
red zombies best zombies confirmed
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>>53954332
Only if it's Creepy Uncle.
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>>53954332
In Karlov it's fantastic, but it's not worth it for any other Orzhov commander.
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>>53954292
Oh yes I'm ready. He looks fun to build around

>>53954315
Fuck off with your meme shit. He gives mono red a bad name.
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>>53954148
I really need those for my Nekusar deck.
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>>53954292
>Red's weakness is supposed to be bad ramp
>Literally a ramp commander
>Combos and supports every mainline red strategy
>Can be good without relying solely on artifacts

Where were you when Wizards made red great again?
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>>53954056
I'd hate to be autistic here but the flavor of EDH is that your general isn't you, but your, well, the general of your army.
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>>53954364
>>53954368
Eh guess I'll hold off on it then, since Kambal is my Commander.
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>>53954430
Purphoros is better but Neheb 2.0 looks fun.
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>>53954322

ive got some good news then, thats absolutely retarded and makes no sense whatsoever, so you're free to build the deck!
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>>53954430
Red's weakness is a lack of card advantage. Rituals and conditional mana production has been Red for a long time.
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>>53954497
Purphoros is only better on paper, every single player will target you the minute you reveal your commander with Purphoros. His biggest weakness is how he has to be dealt with to matter.

>>53954430
I was here, praising bolas like everyone else should be doing. And I was worried my invocation aggravated assault was going to just sit in my binder forever.
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>>53954430

Red's major weakness is that, even if you DO get that big spike of mana, you have dick-bubkis for card draw so you'll have nothing to spend it on
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>>53954008
Show me a list and maybe I can help you out.
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>>53954566

>every single player will target you the minute you reveal your commander with Purphoros

Literally true of any tier 1 commander you dipshit, that doesn't make them not tier 1
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>>53954556
>>53954582

Wheels? I mean he makes insane amounts of mana, wheeling for extra combat steps is entirely part of the game plan.
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>>53954056
No, we all roleplay as Yami Yugi. Just four guys saying shit like, "I DRAW AND CHOOSE THIS SWAMP AS MY ONLY LAND PLAY THIS TURN. THEN, BY TAPPING MY SWAMP, I CAST... DARK RITUAL, ADDING THREE BLACK MANA TO MY MANA POOL."
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>>53954599

>Wheels?

Mono red has, what, 5 wheel effects that actually let you draw 7 after discarding? Wheels that just redraw the same number aren't card advantage.

And one of those good wheels is a suspend spell while the other 2 are on creatures that are respectively way too vulnerable or which costs a fuckton and needs to attack to wheel at all.

So in terms of wheels you can actually rely on you have all of 2 cards.
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>>53954669
Every time I cast an instant in response to something my opponent does I scream "YOU JUST ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD"
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>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rakky-dakky/
Can I get some input on this?
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>>53954742
Bad.
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>>53954669
"NEXT, I'LL UTILIZE TWO OF MY BLACK MANA TO CAST THE SORCERY CARD, SINKHOLE! THIS CARD ALLOWS ME TO DESTROY ANY ONE LAND ON THE FIELD, AND I CHOOSE...MY OWN SWAMP! FINALLY, WITH MY LAST REMAINING MANA, I CAST THE INSTANT CARD, ONE WITH NOTHING, THEREBY DISCARDING MY ENTIRE HAND!"
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>>53954750
Thanks, noted
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>>53954509
I'm pretty sure your opponents will leave you alone if you keep hitting them on every upkeep since thats how it is on EDH right
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>>53954669
Has anyone bothered to build a Morph deck just for the sake of saying they're playing a monster face down?
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>>53954742
>archdemon of pizza palazzo

Why would you play this? Might as well use mogis.
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>>53954809
I cut that out and forgot to take it off the list, in v1.0 it was a 2B 5/4 flyer which was good enough to make the cut
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>>53954719
>>53954719
no, you need to declare dramatically "IN RESPONSE, I PLAY AN INSTANT SPELL, _______ _____! IT DOES ___, TARGETING YOUR ______!" otherwise you look a fool

unless you actually have a trap card
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>>53954292
That fucking art though, feels good after shit like Samut
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>>53954860
ah yea i love me some mindbroken traps
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>>53954669
>I play Divination!
>This card allows me to draw two new cards!
>Divination is goooood.
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>>53954825
Oh, I see.

Anyways, vial smasher seems like she would make a nice adaption to your deck.

You could also consider staff of nin and palace siege. Maybe words of war and polluted bounds?
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>>53954292
Imagine him with a Rakdos Lord of Riots. So much value

>>53954322
Yeah...
Not enough to stop me. Aside for however much he costs, I only need about 50 dollars to build him

>>53954922
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>>53953934
Razaketh is so good and so bad at the same time.
>Cast Razaketh from the command zone, Sac two nigglets, get Buried Alive and Victimize, win for 14 mana and 2 life.
>Cast Demonic Tutor for Triskelion, cast Mikaeus from the command zone. Cast Triskelion. Win for 14 mana.
Yes, theoretically Razaket is more versatile but we all know mono-black tutors wincons not game stalling faggotry like blue, so the result will always be the same anyway.
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>>53955003
I'll give him a try, mono black pillowfort or something. Or I just slap him into the scarab god as something to eternalize.
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>>53955046
i highly suggest against monoblack unless you enjoy aggressive, linear decks with little versatility
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>>53954322
Yes and? You're Dimir, unless everyone else is in UG, you're winning. And if everyone else is in UG they'll be literally retarded to ignore Kruphix, AIDzuri or Animar to focus on you.
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>>53954969
Palace siege is in it, again missed it in the new list, but the others sound nice too, thanks
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>>53955066
Well, I enjoy "fundecks" but the powerlevel of my group is pretty low so no matter what I build people will hate me.
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>>53954430
>>Red's weakness is supposed to be bad ramp
Red's weakness is not being able to touch enchantments and your cards decreasing in value as their CMC increases.
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>your opponent manages to prevent you from ever resolving your commander during a game

How fucked are you?
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>>53955109
monoblack basically forces you down the deck archetype of "the only way i can stop others from winning is winning really hard myself" which honestly made it pretty unfun for me in my casual meta

i ended up doing lots of things with my monoblack except now finally i've dropped all pretenses of niceness built it into skithiryx, now i just use it to annoy people who try too hard
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>>53955138
Sitting pretty good. If they don't want me to play "fair" magic they won't have any countermagic left for me to run my combo
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>>53955138
For roughly half my decks, pretty fucked. For the other half, frustrated, but fine otherwise.
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>>53953934
>Thread Question
I'm personally interested in getting a copy of Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh as well as some of the new Cycling Deserts, but other than a few cute items, I'm not all that invested in it. That, and those Ixalan spoilers look infinitely more interesting to me.
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>>53953962
It's not about my Commander being shit. It's about playing what you love.
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>>53955138
>Omnath
Irritated, but okay.
>Bruna
Fucked.
>Jace Tribal
Pretty good.
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>>53955149
Well the current situation is, either I play underpowered shit and someone else whipes out his superfriends deck or I play my tryhard shit.

So might as well build monoblack tax you for breathing or something like that.
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>>53955290
you could play UW or something that can be laser-accurate about hate. just build ephara or something, and use tons of UW etbs and flickers to build an unkillable board while also doing tons of controlly shenanigans and keeping the top dogs down.

monoblack just hates everyone out at the same rate. you end up killing a useless player while trying to kill someone actually relevant.
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>>53955138
>Xenagod
The deck falls apart

>Gishark
Hard to say currently

>The Ur-Dragon
Still getting Eminence!
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>>53955361
I was thinking about doing something with brago actually since flickering looks like fun.
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>>53955138
>Karlov
Booty Bothered
>Mogis
Rump Rustled
>Queen Marchesa
Pooper Pained
>Ezuri
Shitter Shattered
>Gisa
Orifice Obliterated
>Bruse and Reyhan
Perfectly fine.
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>>53954322
So fucking what? Play what you want.
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>>53954566
Bruh, if you can ignore a general that means they're shit, no amount of mental gymnastics will make that not true.
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>>53954443
Are you running Steel Hellkite, Myr Battlesphere, Blightsteel, and some eldrazi titans?
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>>53954400
Save up and but them anon. I recently did too and don't regret it. $100 will easily get you both of them. Now the only big wheel/timetwister effect I don't have is actual Timetwister and I'm going to get one sooner or later.

[s]I'll just get a Collector's Edition version if possible but it's very hard to find[/s]
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>>53954696
Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Fate, Reforge the Soul, Dragon Mage, Mind's Eye, and if applicable, Skullclamp is a reasonable amount of draw for a monored deck.
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>>53955368
>Gishark

I'm missing something here.
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>>53955854
Well on magiccardmarket you can get both timespiral and wheel for 60€ in near mint, seems pretty sweet actually.

Time twister on the other hand is like 600€, fucking hell..
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>>53954922
lewd. literally posted the first trap card that showed up for me. that is also my fetish, sir of patrician taste.

and jace is one too now apparently. what did wizards mean by this?
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>>53955138
>sygg
Time to find a noose

>Mazirek
Quite upset, but I should be able to work my deck

>Sidisi
I will miss the free zombies, but ill get over it

>Merieke
How did he beat me in a counter war?

>Darreti
Sad, but migut be alright

>planned Scarab God deck
Perfectly fine
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>>53955910
Considering the deck is also about generating huge mana through damage...
Memory Jar
Staff of Nin
Sword of Fire and Ice
Chandra, Flamecaller
Sin Prodder
Knollspine Dragon
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Tower of Fortunes
Combustible Gearhulk

Yeah there are a bunch of options for Red card draw and advantage. The whole point of Neheb is to take extra combat phases and then use the mana to dig for more combat phases through aggressively digging while you load up your table and wipe lands.
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>>53955935
Timetwister and all of the other cards that cost more than about $100 are much cheaper if you buy them through some other source. Basically if you buy them at an event or on ebay you can save hundreds of dollars compared to tcgplayer or mkm.
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>>53954056
people get mad when I sit on them
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>>53955935
That's the P9 tax for you.
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Whats the best out of the box Commander deck?
My LCS is having a stock deck Commander tournament, and I'm a bit conflicted as to which to pick, though I'm leaning towards Freyalise.
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>>53956218
Probably Meren, but then you'll be the asshole Meren player.
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>>53953934
I really like the scarab god but holy shit his head just looks retarded.
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>>53956267
There's a shitposting namefag for EDH on 4chan that's basically cancer. It's called V. Wish.
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>>53953934
>want to play mardu
>the sickest looking commander that seems my style is kind of shit
Is this guy as bad as I think he is?
I mean I can obviously make it so every creature in my deck has atleast 1 white symbol to play with but he seems pretty shit.
Any tips?
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>>53956401
Deathtouch and lifelink
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>>53956546
YeAh, I already have the Stoneforge and the basilisk collar
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>>53955138
>nekusar
Ill have to draw a backup plan, I havent gotten locked out of nekusar since ema so itll be pretty shakey
>omnath rage
This is normal, i gotta pray
>mizzix
I have other cost reducers and wincons that dont need mizzix, itll be a lot longer but i can get there
>archangel avacyn
Itll suck to lose my indestructible source and a lot of my tricks arent as cool without ber, but the core deck needed to work without her so it would be fine. Id probably reanimate her from the gy.
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>>53955138
>Korlash

Jokes on them. Geth is my real commander
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>>53955138
>Kraj
lol who cares Kruphix is in the 99 and he's the real MVP

>Yasova
Up shit creek with a paddle made of shit

>Mimeoplasm
More annoyed that he still ate something from my graveyard

>Marath
Whatever the deck plays itself

I play a lot of kitchen table with noobs so if the deck can't function as a Singleton 100 it's useless. It's Yasova's biggest flaw at the moment and I'm think I'll start rotating in token producers for sustainable Sac fodder
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>>53955138
Molimo - I'm fine. I've got the fatties in here somewhere to stomp you, it just won't be as quick.

Zada - Probably fucked, though if I can get Purphoros down, maybe I can win through token spam alone.

Kambal - Fine, I'll do it through Extort.

Sliver Overlord - I'm not as bad off as I would be if you Enslaved him. I can Slivercycle my way to victory.

Brago - I'd be fucked, but hey, I'm playing Blue, I have to be able to stop you from stopping me at some point, right?

Niv-Mizzet - I'll need to get Psychosis Crawler out, or maybe rely on Sphinx-Bone Wand, but I bet I can still pull it off.
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>>53956354
Honestly, it's one of the more accurate to mythology gods.
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>>53955138
>Surrak Dragonclaw
No fucks given
>Olivia, Mobilized for War
Annoyed, but fine
>Trostani
Starting to get a bit flustered
>Glissa, the Traitor
Blood pressure rising
>Omnath, Locus of Rage
1000% MAD
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>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/azami-wizards-4/
Any feedback on my Azami deck? I still need to grab a few of the cards, as you can see there, but none of them are too bad and I just didn't have any of them on hand at the moment. I'm thinking of maybe cutting something so I can run Voidmage Husher to try and combat Activated ability heavy commanders, but I'm not sure.

Just looking for general feedback as well. It's my first MonoU deck, and first deck with blue in it in general so I'm trying to get my feet wet with a simple combo deck.
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>>53955915
Where have you been anon? Go look at Ixalan spoilers.
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>>53956401
I think you might be looking at Zurgo the wrong way. If you like to blow up creatures every turn, Zurgo is your man. You slap a Worldslayer and Assault Suit on him and run boardwipes for days and win with commander damage despite you not attacking with him that often.
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>>53955138
>Karlov

Aetherflux Resevoir, beaters like Archangel of Thune and Divinity of Pride, and maybe Crypt Ghast + Debt to the Deathless could pull my ass out.

>Noyan Dar

It's a very mediocre control deck without him so I'd be pretty screwed.

>Marath

There are at least 4 other ways I could win.

>Daretti

Goblin Welder still does work but it would be a lot worse, probably fucked.

>Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

It's green. I'll have tons of mana with or without her. I'd be okay.
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>>53955915
the entire rare sheet for Ixalan got spoiled. We're getting a legendary dinosaur.
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>>53954288
Don't forget this baby

>>53956765
What? Mimeo eats shit only when he resolves and is entering the battlefield, not on cast. Nothing is exiled if he's countered.
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>>53956919
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/azami-wizards-4/
You've got Mind over Matter and Lab Man, the rest of the deck is irrelevant.
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>>53955138
>sedris
Thanks for wasting it on Sedris and not Splinter Twin or Kiki!
>Dragonlord Silum
Silumgar's not my commander, Gonti is ;^)
>Momo Vig
Big mistake, amigo
>Ayli
I'm WB, I'm killing everything lmao
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>>53955138
>Karador
Fucking try, I he's hard to outpace. Usually only costs WBG. Deck will still do fine
>Skullbriar
Deck does great
>Zur
Falls apart
>Rhys
Frankly he's better as a target than a leader anyway
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>>53955138
>Alesha
Surprisingly well. I've had it happen a ton where I never get an attack step off with the commander. I just play stupid durdly two power creatures and everyone ignores me until I win with Revilark combo
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>>53956401
If you want to embrace the jank, he's one of the few non-Teysa commanders that can reasonable run Darkest Hour.
Also Vault of the Archangel
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>saw people playing EDH a year ago
>lurked here and other places
>made a Brago list, tested it on different online platforms
>saved up
I just dropped $250 on a Brago deck with accessories. These are my first physical cards. I won't have it in time for this week, but next week...
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>>53957223
I hope you have fun playing.
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>>53953934
>tutors make edh kind of samey and boring
hey lets make a commander that ONLY tutors
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>>53954256
Holy crap, is this one of the biggest oversights in magic art ever?
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>>53957302
Yes, you called?
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>>53957321
I mean, it's pretty clear that she's holding her dress like that. But futa, so who cares?
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>>53957302
Literally only you are saying that. Also if you are running him as the commander good fucking luck casting him in a reasonable time frame.
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>>53957302
Maralen and Sidisi? Typical WotC, taking women's jobs and giving them to men.
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>>53957354
>good luck casting him
>In Monoblack
>with Cabal Coffers+ Nykthos+Nirkana Revenant+Crypt Ghast and tutors to make sure they have them.
He's still a bad commander, but come on son.
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>>53957321
"Oversight"
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>>53957292
I do too. It's a bit of voltron, a bit of stax, a bit of combo, and a tiny bit of Azorius goodstuff.
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>>53957302
Bad troll is bad.
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>>53957342
Look at her hand again. She ain't holding shit, she's open palm CARESSING something.
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>>53957223
>tfw want to build mono B I hate everything with the new demon
>tfw noone in my playgroup really plays commander
>tfw end up buying snapcasters and polluted delta instead

Really sucks, because commander seems more fun than modern but oh well.
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>>53957000
Hell yeah

And I'll be sure to stack to the triggers so that the Endless Ranks triggers before Scarab
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>>53957377
>Using your tutors to find mana ramp so you can play another tutor.

That's why it's unreasonable. Just use your tutors to grab your combo the first time around.
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>>53956919
You should really consider an Isochron package. Take it from my experience that Nameless One, Scourge of Fleets, and Thassa are not good in this deck. Also come to peace with the fact that by not making the most cutthroat Azami deck you can that people will still always target you because of MoM.
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>>53957354
>Literally only you are saying that
He's literally not. That's a very widely echoed sentiment.
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>>53956971
Oh, I knew about that but I completely forgot his name.

It's a bit early to theorycraft a tribal deck where a big chunk of your tribe hasn't been spoiled though. There could be some workhorse uncommons.
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>>53957785
People already always target me, so I'm not super worried about that. There's always someone who has some personal vendetta against one of my decks and turns the whole table against me, so I've been forced to adapt. The playgroup is pretty casual though so this would be considered about on their level as far as competitiveness goes.

And yeah, Nameless one is probably bad, but I feel like having only one Morph card defeats the purpose a bit. Maybe I'll replace it with Aphetto Alchemist, or one of the "turned face up, counter target spell' cards.
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>>53957958
Vesuvan Shapeshifter, anon.
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>>53957927
Yeah. I think people are expecting a lot out of the three sets we'll be on Ixalan for, but I'm always happy to see a big stupid tribal lord.
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I've managed to knock this Ashling Stax deck; http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ashling-group-stax/
down to the required 100 cards, aside from the obvious Nether Void and Abyss upgrades, is there anything in here that I'm missing? Polluted bonds seems good, but I'm not sure if it warrants a spot over anything else, I'm also on the fence about running something like Hymn to Tourach instead of a repeatable effect like Mind Slash
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>>53955854

>tfw got a CE Twister for 40 Burgerbux last year
>tfw also building Locust

Got to play a couple games with it tonight, it's pretty fun.
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>>53958401
>No Leyline of the Void
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i need sleeves of this. where can i get sum?
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>>53958401
Death pits of rath, palace siege, liliana of the veil? Exquisite blood maybe?subversion if you want them to bleed out.
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Is caged sun bad in a two colored deck? I want to make Rakdos demons, and I am wont be splashing red very much
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>>53958886
Why do you care whether a card is good or bad in a jank deck?
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>mess with friend's bone stock Yidris deck
>Hitting 3 wheels in a row with Waste Not out and taking a 45 minute turn for the win

God damn this is rad and awful
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>>53954430
>>53954556
>>53954582
If you think this, you don't play monored. Either that, or your decks are garbage.

Red has no issues getting cards or creating mana. Artifact mana is enough for any deck and red has some great artifact manipulation. Wheel effects can also constantly refill your hand.

Red has two main problems:
1. Card selection - wheels get you a ton of new cards, but red has almost no ability to control what you're getting.
2. Removal - obviously it's the best at destroying artifacts and cards like Blasphemous Act and Starstorm can clear creatures, but enchantments in particular are a huge issue. When I draw Gamble, I'm trying to get Chaos Warp with it almost every single time

Red can be super powerful, but it's just inconsistent.
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>>53959216
If you run obliterate, jokulhaups, and land destruction you can either take out their enchantments or their ways of making enchantments
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>>53957342
Nope, it's an oversight and the artist has admited it was meant to be a leg but there are already two legs at the bottom. He even made an updated version of the art where she is holding her dress out. He even sells prints of it.
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>>53958476
Very jealous of your good deal. Old School is driving up all the damn CE/IE card prices and making them scarce.
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>>53953934
>get hyped about nicol bolas planeswalker card
>want to build a bolas themed edh deck that steals your opponents stuff and then sacrifices them for value
>no commander that works well with this
>ixalan leaks
>grixis pirate commander and other pirates steal your opponents stuff
>fuck yes
>razaketh gets spoiled
>muh dick

Take all my money Wizards, I dont care
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>>53954292
So fucking metal, I love it

Straight into Rakdos you go
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>>53955138
>xenagod
Annoyed but its not essential to the plan, just puts it over the top

>kalitas
Vampire tribal so whatever

>breya
Shut down one of my combos but I still got plenty of other shenanigans, Im fine.
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I want to make a deck focused on whittling opponents down over time. Best commander for this sort of thing?
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>>53957339
Is there any way to actually build Maralen that isn't a complete meme suicide deck?
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>pumped for anthology to come out so I can finally get a foil meren.
>order it the morning it comes out before prices inevitably spike.
>says "shipped" but never arrived. Vendor has clearly cancelled it.
>can't bring myself to pay the extra $20 for it after price hike.

Fuck, I should stick to ebay. This happens all the fucking time with tcgplayer.
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>>53955248
I can't wait to try building this dumb fucker. secret doublstrike tribal let's go.
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>>53959563
Obzedat or Mogis
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>>53955138
>Meren
Kind of sucks but the deck can still kind of manage I think. She is the main engine though.
>Nahiri
I'll just slap shit on dudes the old fashioned way and board wipe and durdle.
>Mizzix
DEAD
>Atraxa
I haven't had a chance to play with her. Fine since I want the deck to be mostly synergy and Atraxa just pops in to proliferate and make herself fucking huge.
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>>53954322
>literally
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>>53954288
that's lame. don't build it as zombie tribal, go oldschool UB control and reanimate every fatty you kill/counter
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>>53958401
Sinkhole is good 1v1
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>>53959969
>don't do what you like, do what I say you like
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House rule: the Amonkhet gods can be used as partner commanders as long as they're partnered with another Amonkhet god. Good idea? What would you build?
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>>53959638
What does the actual text say?
The card looks cool
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>>53957354
>play sheoldred
>tier 1-4 is composed entirely of mana rocks, kill spells and creature that kill, exile or disable named cards
You just run a shit ton of board wipes and cheap kill spells to stall the early game while you drop rocks.
It's not too hard
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>>53960086

If I can make it out...

>Trample, Vigilance, Haste
> When CARDNAME deals combat damage to an opponent, reveal that many cards from the top of your library. Put any number of Dinosaur creature cards revealed this way onto the battlefield tapped and the rest to the bottom of your library in any order.
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>>53960145
Whoops, Dinos don't enter tapped by this effect, they just enter. My bad.
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>>53960083
kefnet/hazoret 80 land seismic assault or bust
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>>53954288
Scarab God is so fucking busted.
5 mana value machine that gives redundancy to creature combos and steals and hates on opponents graves.
Don't need a single zombie with him desu.
Id be surprised if he didn't see standard play too
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>>53960219
combo :^3
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>>53954288
Scarab God is so fucking busted.
5 mana value machine that gives redundancy to creature combos and steals and hates on opponents graves.
Don't need a single zombie with him desu.
Id be surprised if he didn't see standard play too
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>>53960241
I was thinking of this+doomsday but uh sure.
c^:
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>>53960378
i only play bad decks like kefnet high tide with labman as the only win con
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>>53960164
>>53960145
Also excuse me the other cards go to the bottom of the library in a RANDOM order.
Thank you very much :^)
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>http://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/23-06-17-elves-edh/

>thoughts?
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>>53960520
wren's run vanquisher seems kinda bad, it's just a 3/3 and that's a lot less impressive when you have 3 opponents with 40 life each
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/anafenza-the-godmost/

How do I go about improving Combo with Minor control Anafenza?

bPod chains are pretty good for now, Anafenza can get to 11 P/T pretty easily now too.

Cheers boys.
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>>53960520
glissa, immaculate magistrate, and imperious perfect also seem underwhelming. you typically don't want chipping away at people to be your win con in an elf deck. i'm assuming ezuri is your commander, you should focus more on generating shitloads of mana to dump into him to win in a single turn.

if you swing out and kill only one person, the other two are gonna hard focus you down and you'll be tapped out and likely die.
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>>53960164
Dino tribal is best tribal
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>>53960609
wren and magistrate do feel bad. glissa does work at my shop. imperious perfect i do like though. I also forgot to mention at my shop it's 1v1 about 85% of the time.

I was thinking about beastmaster ascension. I'll have to think more about the other slots. Thanks for the input.
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Will it be dumb to like or build a deck for Scorpion God instead of Scarab God?

Everyone likes the Scarab it seems.
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>>53960686
All three gods are good. It's just that scarab god is insane.
I might build a deck for each desu.
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>>53955138
>G/w Selvala
I'm golden. You aren't gonna stop me ramping and playing fatties.

>og Drana
I'm fine. Regular black shenanigans will win out anyway.

>Kambal
Kind of annoying especially in my meta. But if I can get late game it's fine.

>Brago
Fine. I'll just stax the whole damn table. Hope you're ready for a 3 hour game.
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>>53959488
>no commander that works well with this
Old marchesa works great for this. Use Act of Treason > Attack with dethrone > Sac the creature before end of turn.
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>>53956837

>So we have to paint the Scarab-Headed god
>Yep
>Shall we just put the Scarab's head on a person?
>By Anubis no! Just stick a whole Scarab on a picture of a person
>This doesn't seem to match our other depictions of gods
>Are you questioning the Scarab-God?
>...no
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>>53959439

That is not how a hand holds a dress. Still looks like it's caressing an immense, yet still feminine, penis.
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>>53956354
Anyone else hoping to see or even draw some Eternalized versions of creatures?
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>>53960593

Bump. pls, need feedback.
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>>53960995
>returns under your control

Damn how did I miss this
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>>53957927
It's true that we can't theorycraft the exact synergies of the deck, since we only know most of the dino rares/mythics and not the necessary commons and uncommons too, or anything from Rivals, but we can already tell from what we have and what we can infer about a concept as simple as Dinosaur tribal in Naya colors that ramp matters.

It's also not a bad idea to consider that with a tribal-themed Commander 2017, one of the tribes known to be Dragons, which are heavy in one of our colors, and with a lot of speculation already going on about the other decks, it's not bad idea to plan some of this shit out now and avoid what's already happened to poor Mana Echoes because of Slivers speculated for C17.

inb4 Pygmy Allosaurus buyout
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>>53954043
I'm surprised we don't talk about him more. His abilitiy is extremly powerful and the deck basically builds itself. Just get a bunch of wheel effects and card draw, add some counterspells and burn spells and you are done.
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>>53961621
Alternatively you could play Mizzix, Melek, Jeleva, Nekusar, Ydris or VS/K and have the same deck except better.
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>>53961410
There is also the fact Mana Echoes looks like it could be pretty spicy with The Locust God, since resolving a wheel gets you almost 50 mana without any other bugs.
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>>53954509
>makes no sense
What makes no sense is your comment on the issue.
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>>53959969
>it's lame, do what everyone else does with UB instead
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>>53961933
Nigga, zombie tribal is the second most popular way to build UB, right after mill.

Don't pretend you are doing something different and unique with that shit. Traditional control in UB is much more rare than control for WUB or GWU
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Posting this again from an earlier thread, I'm wanting to build naga tribal with Sidisi at the head just because, it seems like fun, and some of the nagas have cute interactions with each other.

My question for you guys is besides nagas, artifact lords, and other "choose creature type" cards, is there anything obvious I'm missing for the shell of the deck?
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>>53959216
>best at destroying artifacts and can creature clear
>best artifact destruction
Mycosynth lattice
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>>53955138
>Prossh
Ok
>Atraxa
Welp looks like i'm not gonna get my +1/+1 counters on my shitty creatures
>Meren
Welp looks like i'm gonna keep milling myself until i can cast her again
>Ghave
I guess i'll combo off another time
>Ruric Thar
Fuck
>Kuphrix
Shit
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>>53962298
Wait i missed the "ever" in the question then
>Meren
Welp looks like i'm gonna keep milling myself until i can cast Rise of the Dark Realms or Living Death or Mortal Combat or Victimize for Jarad+Lord of Extinction
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>>53961018
It is different than the art on the card though so it is clear he tried to make it look less like a leg/dick.
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>>53955138
But anon, that was my plan the whole time.
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What commander would be ideal for stealing everyone else's decks? I know the obvious choice would be Memnarch but usually when Memnarch is cast the game ends, I want to actually be able to use the things I take in order to make each game have more variance. I've considered both Grim-Grin (Gravespawn Sovereign, Corpse Queen, etc.) and Olivia (Herself, Captivating Vampire, etc.) since both of these can fall back on tribal in bad situations. Keiga seems a little underpowered but has the option to run clones to acheive the same effect, then theres milling with Lazav...
I'm at a loss. What's the most efficient way of achieving this dream? Ever since I've managed to make my LGS fear Perplexing Chimera I've become hooked on shitting up the game and holding everyone at ransom.
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>>53955138
Why?
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>>53962565
Sen Triplets, Yasova Dragonclaw, or Marchesa the Black Rose.
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>>53955138
>Feldon
With my LD and Stax package I shall carry on. It'll be slightly less good/easy but not impossible.
>Freyalise
Worse off than above, I can still use my dick moves but it'll be a lot harder without infinite mana dorks
>Gitrog
Do I have my Loam or crucible? If so, let the Turbofog roll. I'll be missing a hefty chunk of draws but not all my CA
>Marchesa
I'm fine. Even if I want Monarch there are other ways and the pillow fort doesn't care
>Dralnu
I'm going to have a REAL hard time storming out without him. It's not impossible, but I probably won't manage.
>Meren
I'm so dead.
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>>53962565
Gonti or Triplets. Advantage of triplets is that they're tricolor and actually take things from enemy hands. Advantage of Gonti is that while people will do anything to not be touched by Triplets there's not much they can do to avoid Gonti's etb.
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>>53962576
I currently play Riku (which is where I added the Chimera to), so I want to steer away from RUG. However Marchesa sounds interesting, I traded a Selvala for one at the release event and never got around to using it. Would I just run cards like Zealous Conscripts then sac them before the end step? Seems a little more convoluted than just plucking them out of graves but if you could provide an example list I'm willing to give it a chance.
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>>53962615
Yes, it's threaten effects, add a counter, sacrifice. I don't have a list, but I have a friend I'll be seeing tonight who does. I'll see what I can do.
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/razaketh-test/

Any input/suggestions? First time I tried to build a deck, probably going to take out tainted aether and replace it with something else.
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>>53954043
nice addition in my arjun deck
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>>53962671
>17 artifacts
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>53962774
I have no idea that's why I'm asking for advice here, should I play less or more?
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>>53962671
>Sorin's Thirst
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>>53962799
it is a shitty combo with sol ring, isochron scepter and paradox engine to shoot the entire board.
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>>53955138
>GW Selvala
Probably in a winning position because you wasted all your spot removal on a Mana dork
>Angry omnath
This is pretty common and it's painful
>Child of Alara
Depending on the rest of the game this could just mean you removed it once and it went to the gy
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>>53962671
>>53962774
>>53962791
The amount of artifacts isn't a problem but cut the chaff and add more Mana rocks you need at least 10 if you intend to hard cast this guy.
Cut darksteel forge
Cut trading post
Etc.
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>>53963032
>10

Alright, I will try to do that. Which rocks would you recommend? Guardian idol, pristine talisman? Charcoal diamond and jet medallion?
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>>53963128
Stick to 2 mana rocks and below retard.
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>>53963161
Please don't be rude.
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>>53955138

>Newzuri
RIP

>Meren
Not much hope

>Yisan
DOUBLE RIP

>Maelstrom Wanderer
I hope my fatties do something

>Yidris
All is good
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>>53963128
>>53963161
Low rocks are better
Guess it depends on what you want to spend
Charcoal diamond
Fractured power stone
Fellawar Stone
Cold steel heart
Star compass
Thran dynamo is always good (4cost should be 1-2 rocks this high everything else should be lower)
Hedron archive is fine too
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>>53963205
I'm gonna bully the shit out of you.
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>>53963205
>>53963346
This I don't know what your expected, Twink
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If I use Strionic Resonator on an Oblivion Ring's ETB trigger do both exiled cards get linked to O Ring?
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>>53963444
Obviously. O ring is still the source of the ability
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>>53954043
Tried Locust out last night, switching out Niv-Mizzet and tweaking just a few cards. Pretty good. No one wanted to use removal thanks to the recursion ability. Eventually, i played Consecrated Sphinx and two out of three opponents scooped.
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>>53963496
do you think committing to token strategies is worth it?

i kinda wanted to build him with a big token focus, but i'm not sure if UR supports that well enough
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>>53963128
Sol Ring of course
Mana Crypt if you're a high roller
Mana Vault is somewhere in between, get it if you've got a little spare budget.
You're mono-black so get Charcoal Diamond and Jet Medallion. Coldsteel Heart is Diamond #2
2-mana rocks that enter untapped are premium, so pick up Mind Stone and Thought Vessel, maybe Prismatic Lens if you need it
Have 3-4 rocks that are either bigger or serve an additional purpose. Honestly, 4 but one of them is Everflowing Chalice that can be cast as just a 2-cost. Other than that look at Hedron Archive, Thran Dynamo, Worn Powerstone, Magnifying Glass, Commander's Sphere (not so much in monocolor), or maybe even Dreamstone Hedron with a commander as expensive and potentially mana hungry as Razaketh. Which ones you use in a monocolor deck depends on what it needs. Black has good CA but it's often stuck in annoying places so Magnifying Glass is nice but not the necessity it is in mono-white. Similarly, Dynamo jumps ahead of Hedron Archive if you're unlikely to need to crack the archive

So overall, if I were building a rock base for Razaketh it would probably be as follows
>Sol Ring, Mana Vault, Thought Vessel, Charcoal Diamond, Coldsteel Heart, Mind Stone, Everflowing Chalice, Worn Powerstone, Thran Dynamo, Dreamstone Hedron, and maybe a Hedron Archive for a little extra oomph
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>>53962077
Conspiracy
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>>53963521
He could be some sort of spell slinging/token hybrid. Just use Young Pyromancer, Talrand, Metallurgic Summoning, and Docent of Perfection to make tokens. Then you wheels and cantrips plus plenty of removal and counters, and you should have a fun deck.
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>>53963521
just stick a smokestacks in the deck and call it a day
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>>53964296
>>53964313
Cool more trash.
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>>53964322
Holy shit.
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>>53964322
This one I like. Not really good early on but dumping your entire mana pool into that late game seems pretty cool.
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>>53964322
>Hailfire
Cuckolds at wotc are afraid to say "hellfire"?
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>>53964296
For a common that's pretty nice... in 20 life formats. In EDH I'd much rather play Skinrender.
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>>53964322
Punisher mechanics are always bad and this one gives 3 choices so it's going to be shit in some situations but at least it is pushing to try and make it good.

I think this will be weaker than it looks though, even in multiplayer. The chances of someone having a huge hand, some tokens, or plenty of life to spare are high.
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>>53964322
waht the fuck

>cast this with 17 mana with black mana doublers
>opponents either all die or sacrifice/discard all their shit to survive

in my big black mana you go
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>>53964375
thing is though, all those things are somewhat crippling. 1 mana for a permanent, card or 3 life is fantastic value in monoblack, which usually has problems finding good uses for its mana. in addition, it only hits your opponents, so it's extra good

i wouldn't play it in anything but monoblack though
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>>53958401
good luck getting a Lethal Vapours. I have a Ashling deck and its pretty much all i'm missing. Mine is a fair bit different to this though.
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>>53964322
*whistle* Each opponent really sells the card. It's not that hard to pump X up to 10 or higher with good ramp, so it'll likely melt boards and knock significant numbers off of life totals. I feel like it's kind of similar to Choice of Damnations, but fucks up everyone instead of just one person (and likely does more damage)

>>53964350
Doubt it, I mean they just masterpieced Damnation. They were probably trying to evoke the seventh plague of Egypt: Hail and Fire. HoD has been pretty biblical thus far.
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>>53963521
Sorry it's a little late. The deck is mostly a UR Toolbox with Locust for extra value. I do plan on getting stuff like Docent of Perfection, Talrand, Arjun. Basically, I'm focusing on good spells (card draw, removal, counters mostly) and creatures that can give me some extra value when I cast those good spells.
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>>53962065
I thought my dragonlord silumgar list was ultra generic with the board wipe/counterspell & reanimator plan
>buried alive for fleshbag marauder, it that betrays, jin-gitaxias
>victimize that shit lmao
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>>53964350
Bolas isnt a demon, should have been called something totally different
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>>53964350
It's a biblical reference. Hailstones imbued with fire. Even if it wasn't, it's a hail of fire, not fire from Hell.
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>>53964356
I'm really triggered by the fact that Farm to Market is a WU card not GW.
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>>53964356
l feel like this was supposed to be from last block but it spoiled too much, now it doesnt make sense.
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>>53964430
i was thinking of running stuff like this myself:

Bident of Thassa
Coastal Piracy
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
Breath of Fury
Burn at the Stake

etc.

mostly for the fun factor, though
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>>53964474
Farming is pretty W.
Applying a systematic, orderly arrangement to nature, rather than just picking berries where you find them.
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>>53964367
Seems like it could be good in angry Omnath.
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>>53964313
>>53964322
Dank. These are going straight into my Kambal.
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>>53964501
This
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>>53955138
>Skithiryx
Not very, I put in some back up Voltron targets for that exact reason

>Kambal
Pretty fucked

>Talrand
I won't get any bodies after a counterspell, so that's shit

>Purph
Maybe my playgroup would leave me the fuck alone then

>Xenagos
Get the bleach ready
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>>53964386
this
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>>53955138
>Saskia
Literally nothing happens, I use her for her colors and a beater in a pinch
>Gruul Wort
Okay I'm sad but you won't have counters for my ramp and burn so it's okay
>Red Zurgo
It's fucking over
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>>53964708
I was going to say
"could you imagine the amount of removal that would require?!"
but then i realized a single nevermore just locks you out haha
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>>53955138
>Keranos
Sitting fine
>Kruphix
Mildly Miffed
>Mizzix
Table flipping

Also, post spicy Mizzix tech. I want to be less pure degenerate and more fun with my deck without going full Scrambleverse.
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>>53964356
>>53964367
I still can't get over the stupid formatting on these cards.
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>>53964728
You should remember, Dashing Zurgo from the command zone doesn't avoid commander tax since it's an alternate casting cost, not an ability like Derevi.
Also fuuuuck, totally forgot about that in my Brago deck.
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>>53964770
even the naming conventions are all over the place
at least with the split cards it was supposed to be like
life and death
breaking and entering
assault and battery

its like they let a kid or woman name these cards theres no structure to them aside from two words that are in sayings together.
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>>53964802
With aftermath its supposed to be (from) X to Y
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>>53964746
>without going full Scrambleverse
mizix is storm
thats degenerate to some people
scrambleverse is just retarded. to everyone.
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>>53964802
They're all A to B.
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>>53964802
state of you, lad
CUT AND RIBBONS, WHAT THE FUCK
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>>53964746
Proliferate walkers
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>>53964826
>from struggle to survive
>from failure to comply
>from cut to ribbons
or maybe its like what >>53964835
you are still left with
>struggle to survive
>prepare to fight
>mouth to feed
which uses different context and is dumb
sure its nit picky but i still hold its shitty too

if all the cards from amonket were using to as in dust to dawn
and all the hour of devastation cards used mouth to feed
then it would work better but it just comes off like they ran out of working space and used a homophone to just finish the damn set
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>>53964802
The cards all read


X to Y

Farm to table
Cut to Ribbons
Struggle to Survive
Claim to Fame
Grind to Dust
Dusk to Dawn
Insult to injury.

Etc etc
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>>53964802
It's always delightful to see autists so eager to complain get btfo.
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>>53964826
I know Mizix is storm, I was asking if people had any non-storm big spells that are fun to cast that I could be running that isn't just chaos stuff.

>>53964877
Using this bad boy? Thanks anon, I actually like that idea. Time for U/R counters.
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>>53964896
Yeah, the namefag got it wrong again. Did you have a stroke? What the fuck are you even saying?
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>>53964910
Yup, my secret tech is volt charge. At its best its a bolt that lets you ultimate a walker. At its worst itll always give you exp.
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>>53964407
I'm just saying I think Exsanguinate is still better. Some players will have tokens or trash permanents, tons of cards in hand or graveyard decks that don't mind discarding, or life to spare. It's a powerful effect as long as the opponent doesn't have an excess of one resource.
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>>53964937
I think the most fun thing to do with it is use it on Sigarda players. Sigarda's effect means that they can't choose to sacrifice permanents.
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>>53964902
>get btfo'd
the problem i had was that they used two different kinds of "to" rather than just making
them all the same like they did before
mouth
like how insult to injury is different from farm to table
theres a thing in grammar about it but i forget what the word is now.
just because they all "fit" doesnt mean they are all being used in the same sense if that helps.
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>>53964972
English isn't your first language, is it.
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>>53955138
>Atraxa +1/+1 counters
I'll manage.
>Xenagod
I'll manage
>B Sidisi
Time to break out all of my other tutors
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>>53954595
Implying purphoros is tier 1
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>>53964896
>used a homophone to just finish the damn set

What?
>>
anyone else figured out which one he thinks uses a homophone of "to" yet?
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>>53964972
They're not concerned with grammar, just that it's two words connected by "to" that appear in familiar phrases.
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>>53955248
What does this thing actually do, I can't read that mess.
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>>53965099
Trample, vigilance, haste.
Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, reveal that many cards from the top of your library. Put any number of Dinosaur creature cards from among them onto the battlefield and put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
7/6
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>>53965099
>Trample, Vigilance, Haste
>When CARDNAME deals combat damage to an opponent, reveal that many cards from the top of your library. Put any number of Dinosaur creature cards revealed this way onto the battlefield and the rest to the bottom of your library in a random order.
>>
>>53965041
>>53965028
>>53965069
just ignore it I guess i dont know what im talking about
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>>53965099
7/6 trample, vigilance, haste for 8 (we think) when he deals combat damage to an opponent you reveal that many cards from the top of the deck, put the dinosaurs into play, and the rest on the bottom in a random order.
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>>53965145
God I hope they print enough decent dinosaurs to make this a decent commander. I don't even care much, but I'd love for another half-decent tribe to make some sort of impact with an effect this good in colours this perfect. Changelings can only carry you so far.
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>>53964966
Now that's pretty good. Btfo of anti-black tech.
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>>53965099
READ THE THREAD YOU LAZY FUCK
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>>53955138
I combo them with doomsday into lab maniac with protection :^3
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>>53960686
Nah. Scorpion God seems really solid too, repeatable card draw and sniping dorks are useful abilities.
>>
>>53961752
nice bait
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>>53965186
Already spoiled (deciphered rares from the first set of Ixalan) we have a flier that makes all opposing creatures ETB tapped, a big fucker that does Angelic Chorus, a big fucker who bolts an opponent and a creature on ETB (Could be better), a big fucking trample hexproof dork, and a stats unknown but probably big double striker that gives all your other creatures double strike when it attacks. Especially when Dino Commander here is going to be cheating their fat casting costs, it seems like they're well on their way to being... not good, but at least legitimate.

At least a few old creatures (Particularly "Raptor" named creatures and whatever-saur creatures, maybe the Tyrannax family) might get errata'd to dinosaur too. Not sure any of them are particularly good though.
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>>53954566
Purphoros is just the worst for everyone. Someone who plays him usually doesn't win and dies first, but leaves everyone else at 6-10 life and someone with a creature in play wins. So dumb.
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>>53965644
Hopefully you're right. Currently the only Dinosaur creature we have is fucking Old Fogey.
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>>53965742

He's 100% right. If you look at the bottom left card, "Goring Ceratops", you can see its type is "Dinosaur".
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>>53965912
Obviously they're printing more dinoasurs, I meant hopefully he's right about old creatures getting errata'd into dinosaurs.
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>>53965912
That doesn't prove anything about errata, though.

I think it's safe to say it'll happen, though. It's always occured when a type has been (re)introduced, like Gremlin or Praetor, and at least one creature I can think of, Pygmy Allosaurus, has "Dinosaur" on its typeline.
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>>53965940
>>53965946
WOTC
has confirmed they will be eratta'ing old creatures to dinosaur.

No specifics right now, but it has been confirmed
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>>53960686
everlasting torment :3
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>>53957321
How fucking new are you?
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>>53957321
It's a simple mistake, to be honest I think the lemure art is a better mistake.
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What are yours speculations for the mono green legendary?
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>>53966080
>mistake
Just because you don't have a vampire pegging fetish doesn't mean the rest of us can't.
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>>53966134
There won't be one just to piss us off. WotC always likes to keep the fans' expectations in check.
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>>53966134
With Neheb getting an alternate version, maybe Haptra as a boss of the revivalists.
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>>53966134
Multani reprint, but with Hexproof instead of Shroud. Oh, and cheaper by 1 mana, and built in trample
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>>53966170
Given that I'm building a Hapatra deck right now, as we speak, I'm hoping for this.
>>
Darksteel Mutation, Lignify, Song of the Dryads or Imprisoned in the Moon?
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>>53966655
All 4 because they're great for fucking over decks reliant on their generals.
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>>53966655
>Darksteel Mutation
is a favorite of mine. That indestructibility almost always works in YOUR favor
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>>53966655
I say moon prison and/or Song, but that's because they're critical pieces to the insanity that is permanently rendering a commander inaccessible.
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>>53966655
I love Darksteel Mutation because it's like Swan Song. I'm going to do away with your thing, but here, have a small, useless creature in return.
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>>53966871
I once swan songed my own feeling of dread to give myself a 20/20 flyer. Swan song is good.
>>
>>53964514
Yeah I was thinking the same but I don't know... I don't like my opponents getting their stuff back.
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>>53966655
>Song of the Dryads
Targets a permanent so it's 10/10.

>Imprisoned in the Moon
More narrows; creatures, lands or planeswalkers.

>Lignify and Darksteel Mutation
Only creatures.
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>>53967010
What? I don't know what kinds of deck you play/play against but graveyard is a resource. Shuffling it back in is more akin losing resources since pretty much every deck and color can and will have some form of utilizing it. Shuffling it back in is mainly hosing, situationally bad.
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>>53967127
You rise a good point.
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>>53967114
>Dryads/Moon
>3 cmc
>gives your opponent a land, Moon better than Dryads, technically

>Lignify/Mutation
>2 cmc
>gives your opponent a creature to block with, Lignify better to block since you can kill your own creature
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>>53964322
>Repeat

Are the people at WotC literally retarded? “Repeating” something presumes that the thing must have been done once already. “Perform” instead of “Repeat” would make the card do what Wizards is saying it does.
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>>53964746
X Spells
Buyback Spells
Firemind's Foresight
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>>53967254
no you sperg it just means if x=0 it still happens once
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>>53966917
>20/20 flyer
how
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>>53967442
I had 2 soul catcher's aerie in play each with 9 counters on them. so instead of a 2/2 I got a "parit lage".
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>>53967558
>>53967558
>>53967558

New thread.
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>>53967276
Thats' not how the card works you retard. If X is 0 nothing happens.
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>>53954315
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