Paizo Games General /pgg/

>>53937505
First for Weasle damge

>>53937505
>What do we have to do to fix the rift that's grown in the heart of /pgg/?
Stay chill and respect each other.

What kind of monsters would you like to see in a Halloween themed game, /pgg/? Besides the cliches.

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>>53937505
Mithral Fusing Full Plates

>>53937550
>What kind of monsters would you like to see in a Halloween themed game, /pgg/? Besides the cliches.
Tow words: living candy.

>>53937550
Skeletons, werewolves, vampires, zombies, ghosts.

Skeleton werewolves. Vampire ghosts. Skeleton ghosts.

Vampire skeleton ghosts.

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can i ask newfag pathfinder questions in this general

pls dont bully

>>53937608
Yeah, go ahead. Answering them will be a welcome change from the usual bullshit we get up to around here.

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>>53937608
ASK, AND YE SHALL HAVE ANSWER

>>53937608
>can i ask newfag pathfinder questions in this general
Always

>pls dont bully
This I cannot guarantee.

>>53937608
Just remember to do some basic reading if you're going to answer the painfully obvious stuff

Here's a link to it in case you didn't spring for the core rulebook.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/

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>>53937574
Like candy elementals, or animated object: candy?

>>53937590
Already got those mate.

>>53937608
Ask away anon. Just be patient, a lot of these kids have autism.

>>53937608
Sure, as long as you're not asking 'how do I build x class' in which case http://zenithgames.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-comprehensive-pathfinder-guides.html will do better than the thread

>>53937505
Fuck off, we have a Starfinder thread here: >>53937451
You don't need to be autistic and make it a unified general, faggot.

>>53937618

ive got a human swashbuckler that i need to level up to level 9 from 4 for the sake of joining a narrative; i feel like i dont have as many feats as i should. how many feats should i have? says i get bonus combat feats in the players handbook

How hot would a tiefling prefer his/her meals?

>>53937631
>Like candy elementals, or animated object: candy?
I was thinking animated objects, but elementals could be fun too. Listen to your heart, anon.

>>53937645
How about you fuck off? We've decided to have a general Pazio thread a long fucking time ago.

>>53937631
Cotton candy elementals, please.

>>53937645
Like we said last time, you can do your shitposting, we'll keep running /pgg/ like usual and there's nothing all your shitposting can do to stop it.

>>53937669
>we decided

Who is we

>>53937669
No, fuck you. There's a perfectly good thread for a separate game there, but you have to jam your autistic needs into the thread anyway. Fuck off, we've had votes that we don't want your kind here.

>>53937697
Speak for yourself, spaz. /pgg/ won.

>>53937654
That depends on your class. All characters get a feat at ever odd levels. Some classes get bonus feats on top of that.

>>53937694
The fucking people who visit this thread. Multiple people over multiple threads.

You know, like how we've been having /pgg/ threads for fucking weeks now.

>>53937697
>we've had votes
Are you fucking retarded or blind or both? It's been /pgg/ for ever now.

>>53937713
What, says you? Go on, give me a link to these so-called "polls" that "prove" you won.

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>>53937666
>>53937676
There's a specific phrase in Spanish for how I feel about this.

>>53937654
You get bonus combat feats from Swashbuckler, one feat per odd-numbered hit die, and others as applicable if you get them from your race. You get a bonus feat from human, of course.

Also,
>Swashbuckler
I'm so sorry.

>>53937715

how many should i have by now as a level 9 human swashbuckler

>>53937728
Says the fact that we've had /pgg/ for weeks on end and only one idiot trying to keep /pfg/.

>>53937654
Assuming no archetypes

2 bonus feats from class

1 bonus feat from being humie

5 feats from levels

>>53937729
Fuego?

>>53937666
>>53937676
How does gothic pinata constructs that let loose 1d4-2 swarms of animated candy every time they're hit sound?

Also, caramel oozes?

>>53937771

thank you for this,

so i should enter this scenario with this guy having 8 feats in total?

long story short my buddy asked me to take a level 4 template and make it level 9 and participate in this pirate storyline because he thinks i do funny voices and wanted to make sure this character sheet is proper

>>53937803
Yeah, 8 feats.

What jobs work best for races with darkvision and cold/fire resistence?

>>53937821
Mining.

>>53937821
Space mining

>>53937821
>Darkvision
Mining. It will save an absolute fortune on lighting costs. I think this was actually canon in Sargava- that the mining companies there predominantly hire darkvision-equipped races in order to save money and reduce risks of explosion when mining.

>>53937821
Mining.

>>53937788
Oozes in general.
Candy mimics that are actually off-brand candy bars.
Pumpkin dragon with candy breath attack.
Gobstopper with 30 AC.

>>53937852
Isn't Darkvision black-and-white? I've never mined, but that seems like it would pose a problem, though textures might work for discerning rock from what you're mining. I dunno.

>GM running a Gestalt game with Hero points
>has Anti-hero give 5 total feats over the course of leveling
>decide to go FEAT CITY
>human Fighter/Warpriest
>human FCB
>total 36 feats over the course of leveling

I am the feat god

>>53937821

Public bath house and saunas worker.

Post your current character's theme song and their class.

>>53937917

Should have taken Brawler so you can swap them over and over again.

>>53937917
Phantom Thief Rogue/Avenger Vigilante gets you more feats.

>>53937930

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK4HNNhQ0e4

Avowed, Elemental Pact (Water)

>>53937877
>High AC
Did you mean a ton of DR?

>>53937930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucyYfzbrYkQ

>>53937821
Mining near volcanoes

>>53937930
Fighter (Viking)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAZsf8mTfyk

>>53937975
Yes. Thank you. Precisely.

>>53937930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX6fqafv3_Q
>Mesmerist (Fey Trickster)

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Do you think Starfinder could sub in for cyberpunk games?

Also have we got any ship rules yet?

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So if an animal companion's bite has grab, that means they get a free grapple check, right? So what happens if you give it Hamatula Strike as a feat (of course you'd need Dirty Fighting and Improved Grapple first)?

Could the bite trigger a grapple check, and then if the succeeds could Hamatula Strike be used to turn it into a pin?

>>53938034
>Do you think Starfinder could sub in for cyberpunk games?
Easily, it's already halfway to the cyberpunk aesthetic already.

>>53938034

ask over here friendo >>>53937451

>>53937734
Sorry, missed the bit about human swashbuckler.
So you get 5 feats from your 9 levels. Also 1 bonus feat at level 1 for being human. Finally you get a bonus combat feat for every 4 swashbuckler levels you have (that's 2 in your case).

I need some help. /pgg/

>Decide to run a homebrew setting, never done it before, warn the players that it's my first real time
>They don't give me much to work with in terms of character background, except for one guy who sketches out his home country on a map, details the nobility, and draws a few maps
>Players have no motivation to do anything, and sit in town forever, then argue amongst themselves
>Discover that, four sessions in, actually building a setting is a way larger investment in time then I have/can do

I'm thinking of just dumping the setting and using Golarion instead of struggling to come up with stuff- I'm apparently not as creative as I thought. I've hesitated so far because of the one player who put in a bunch of work, but not having a real framework aside from plagarizing is a pain.
We haven't gotten far in yet, and the players really haven't left the one town. I could easily insert it into the setting, and transplant the country/etc into wherever. Thoughts?

I've only recently started branching into 3rd party content.
What are the generally good ones and what are they popular for?

>>53937556

>Fusing

SYMMETRICAL DOCKING~U!

>>53937930

https://youtu.be/BKWtwJ38EjE

>>53938093

Path of War, popular for making non-spellcasters fun to play and giving them lots of variety and options both in and out of combat.

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>>53938053
this is the /pgg/ thread, for starfinder stuff. This also has 22 unique IPs, while the other one has 11.

>>53938052
Any mentions on bullet weapons? All I've heard about so far has been space lasers and there's something aesthetically pleasing about bullets over laseres.

>>53938137
Fuck off, stop trying to force your solo crusade of "hurr /pgg/ is a thing" on the rest of us.

>>53938085
A more detailed setting isn't terrible, but I'd go with Faerun over Golarion.

>>53938093
Dreamscarred Press, Forest Fire Studios, Drop Dead Studio (Spheres of Power at least), Stuff from N.Jolly who I don't recall who he works for and hopefully someone will correct me

>>53938085
If you don't like Golarion, porting them to a 3.5 setting is pretty easy as well, with a few exceptions of course, though I doubt any of you wants to play planescape.
Renaming the most similar country to that player's backstory is pretty simple and honestly, until you give the players a world map, they could be just about anywhere and you can move areas around without them noticing.

>>53937930
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2uYT2MvZwI
>Brutal Slayer Stalker // Shifter specializing in charging

>>53938093
Dreamscarred Press:
>Psionics, an alternate magic system that is more like a mana bar from a vidya that is generally well-liked. Has some odd fluff and a few corner-case balance issues but you can always tinker with it
>Path of War: (Relatively) fixes the 5ft-step and full-attack routine with base paizo martials by adding in more fun stuff you can do and buffing up fightman classes

Legendary Games
>Legendary (Class) series: Books that contain new, relatively balanced options for classes like Rogue, Swashbuckler, and Kineticist. Notable for often including "Legendary (Class)" fixes that act sort of like patches and tweaks to basic paizo classes

Purple Duck Games
>Kineticists of Poryphyra: A set of books of Kineticist content by N. Jolly, which makes Kineticist even more fun to play

Drop Dead Studios
>Spheres of Power: an alternative "build your own magic" system that encourages specialization and investment, uses points and talents to build your own spells.

I'm certain there are others /pfg/ likes

>>53938172
Jolly has stuff for Purple Duck and Legendary Games. He's also working on Spheres of Power (aka Let's Make Martials Do Things Again Take 2)

>>53938155
>Someone wants to talk starfinder in the PGG/Pathfinder/Starfinder thread.
>Some asshat is trying to split the thread
>Gets told to fuck off because this thread is still on topic and there's more people here
Guess I better insult that guy for not showing up to my thread!

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>>53938198
>Dreamscarred press
It also does Akasha (Magic of Incarnum Port)

...Not that anyone remembers this, of course.

>>53938093
Path of War and Psionics from Dreamscarred Press: The former brings the power level and utility of martials up to that of mid level casters while the later is (for the most part) not quite as broken of a magic system as vancian.

Spheres of Power by Drop Dead Studios: Brings down magical power significantly by creating thematic groupings of spells.

The Avowed by Forrestfire Studios: A pretty versatile class with neat ALL DAY features reminiscent of the 3.5 warlock.

N. Jolly's work, primarily the Legendary Kineticist/Rogue/Vigilantes from Legendary Games: Adding features necessary to bring these subpar classes to the table.

Ertw's beguiler: A favored homebrew here, brings the 3.5 beguiler forward into the pathfinder world. Lots of options and lots of fun to play. Lives on the edge of tiers 2 and 3.

>>53938207

Spheres of Power is a huge mess.

>>53938207
>>53938254
You're thinking of Spheres of Might.

>>53938208
>>53938254
I meant Might, but bleh. Point conveyed.

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>>53937948
>rogue archetype that totally replaces sneak attack with skill bonuses

>>53938050
Yes, that is correct. Be sure to buff it with those grappling feats!

>>53938137
The space pirate in First Contact has a ballistic pistol, and the Sarcesian Operative has a ballistic sniper rifle. They'll be a thing.

>>53937930
https://youtu.be/qLt8o5Nd-y0

Urban Bloodrager/Mutagenic Mauler

>>53938172
Yeah, that's fair. Faerun is more consistent, but I feel it needs some spice.

>>53938192
Thank ye.

>>53937930
A shellshocked elf Psychic Warrior who went into hiding after THE WAR and lost touch with elf society
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKNaIXtBZQ

>>53938034
Why would you subject cyberpunk to the hell of D20?

>>53938286
Rogue archetype that gets more feats than Fighter!

>>53937930
https://youtu.be/_0BPnJUx_Yw
Rubato

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>>53938287
Mother's Fang Cavalier with Throat Cutter, here I come!

>>53937505
Why is it a paizo games general now? I checked the catalog and Starfinder has its own thread.

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>>53937505
Ogg want to know why we not all can get along?

>>53938332
This has me curious, could a phantom thief be built that surpasses a core rogue in combat through sheer gratuitous use of major magic and combat feats?

>>53938353
Throat Slicer, my mistake.

>>53938331
Because d20 is the only thing I can get my friends to play.

I just want some noir cyberpunk for my 1 on 1 games. Rainy cities, bleak days and sinful nights.

I'd play shadowrun but everyone I know hates it.

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>>53938356
Your one-man Crusade needs to come to an end. /pfg/ wasn't any better before starfinder- It might actually have been worse. Trying to remove it from the thread is pretty dumb.

>>53937930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQSMPlxxOWU
>(Bladebound/Kensei) Magus||(Bushi/Vigilante) Stalker

>>53938237
Because its garbage

>>53938448

To be fair, Shadowrun is garbage.

>>53938409
No, because it replaces literally everything besides Weapon Finesse that made the Unchained Rogue pretend to be functional

>>53938454

Its not a one-man crusade.

>>53938155
>says the faggot whose the only person trying to force a split
>all because his dumb animu generals that try to keep them seperate keep getting removed
Have you contemplated chopping your fingers off?

>>53938481
Well I guess it could at least make a decent gestalt partner class

>>53938482
>says the one guy who is the only person who consistantly complains about EACH AND EVERY FUCKING GENERAL
sheesh, you have about as much of a lack of a life as witch hunter

>>53938534

Try again.

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>>53938391
That's because some people cannot accept others who are different from them. As long as we live with love in our hearts, though, we will one day be unified.

>>53938482
Sure, I'm wrong. I forgot about your ego.

>>53938409
They're better at the 2h Intimidation build than untyped Unchained, but I don't know how they fare against the intimidation archetypes. You'll probably never fail to frighten anything that isn't expressly immune to it at 7 though.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home (Closing in 2 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west (Closing in 4 Days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80257/wrath-of-the-righteous (Closing in 3 Weeks)

>>53938563
Oh my god that's the cutest image I've seen this week.

>>53938013
>>53937975
>>53937877
Hah, noted.

What else would we like to see in Madame Esthers Candy Manor?

>>53938409
Major magic is kind of shit. 2/day 1st level spells aren't going to take you very far. The combat feats are way more valuable.

It's probably doable though. The massive bonuses to skill checks and the additional skill unlocks means that a phantom thief has a ridiculously diverse skillset, even before any feats get used.

>>53938573
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5126499/round-2-dot-dot-dot-3 (This is PLD) (Soft Close in 4 days)

>>53938053
How's it feel to be a loser, dweeb?

>>53938573
Anything interesting going on in these games lately? Spicy new memes? Interesting new apps?

>>53938559
Alright,
kys, please? Will this satisfy your shitty desire to force a retarded thread split meme? Or are you just going to go "nu-uh you mad", "It totes wasn't me you are teh tolds" or some other ad hominem that you keep repeating verbatim in nearly every single /pgg/ thread?

>you might as well just gestalt with vigilante

>>53938633

Feels good, that thread is actually moving along at a good pace and having discussion beyond ERP, celeb shit, bickering over bogeymen and self-referential bullshit.

>>53938655

>he thinks its one person
>he can't tell the IPs apart

lul

>>53938595
Haunted house. It acts on initiative 0, and does things. Stairs become slopes, book cases shuffle around while their books attack people.

Things like that.

>>53938646
Not much, apps have been pretty subdued since Broodie's bazketballer. Jane D tried to push Ruheil pretty hard last thread, but I don't think that has legs.

>>53938669
>anon says, while monitoring his other ten remote sessions.

>>53938689
I don't think anyone can go more absurd than come on and slam

>>53938681
Says the retard who keeps whining about 'one anon' who keeps forcing /pgg/ (read: everybody else in the thread)

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>>53938669
>ERP
>celeb shit
>bickering over bogeymen
>self-referential bullshit

>Starfinder is related to any of these
You really are looking for a bogeyman

>>53938729
Shut the fuck up
>>53938681
Shut the fuck up
>>53938741
Shut the fuck up
>>53938595
You're cool

Hold up, when the fuck did DSP publish a novel and why is Why Is She Blonde on the cover next to a coffee knight

>>53938034
Considering it seems like the actual space elements are just going to be Ships and the Drift, I don't see why not, though don't Cyberpunk stories have more conventional fire arms instead of lasers and plasma?

>>53938681
>32 IPs vs 17

>>53938669
You mean the stuff that isn't happening in this thread yet either? Really nigga you have no legs to stand on in this.
Also
>being a whiny puritan bitch
>/tg/
>the very thread that invented the DC80 Escape Artist check, and Bitches for Thulsa
>>>/hugbox/

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>>53938759
Holy hit he's melting down! This is precious!

>>53938683
I actually ran that in D&D2e a couple decades ago. Should be fun to recreate that in PF.

Maybe a dullahan that rides around giving spooky presents, scarecrows possessed by gremlins terrorizing fields of candy corn. little owl griffin kittens going hoot in the night

I'll have to brew up some candy themed loot as well. A bag of magic jelly beans, each flavor doing something different. Taffy that can stretch for three miles. Candied apple grenades.

>>53938801
>IPs are the only method of telling a thread being "more popular"
>/tg/ isn't allowed to evolve and be more straight-laced from its disgusting past

I've lurked /pfg/ for a long time but i've never played any games with anyone from here.
What should I do if I want to start getting into /pfg/ games, additionally, would it even be worth it? I've heard some horror stories about games that start here.

>>53938864
Stay away from lewd games, unless that's your thing.
If you want to get in a game, post an application; then ask one of the review anons to help you out.

>>53938864

You can only try. Some people are okay. The biggest issue i've seen isn't the roleplaying, usually in-character stuff has been pretty good for me, but its out of character the mental breakdowns some people have and then blow up their own game or spill their spaghetti everywhere.

>>53938864
>What should I do if I want to start getting into /pfg/ games, additionally, would it even be worth it?

It's as simple as applying to a Roll20 campaign that is advertised here, such as >>53938573

>>53938864
Honestly all my games have been lovely

>>53938829
I was peeking through an old ADnD manual a while back, and that game was hilariously high-lethality.

>>53938864
Most games that run from here either never get off the ground (the bamboozles) or are pretty fun. Competition's pretty stiff for most of them, though. Ask for reviews. Don't get offended by criticims, instead listen, learn, improve, and try again.

>>53938886
>>53938888
Is there some sort of autism litmus test I can apply to other potential players to minimize all potential spaghetti?

>>53938835
Considering you brought up IP counts first, either you believe it does and you're trying to cover up being an idiot, or you don't actually and you were just bulshitting. Either way is pretty damning, don't you think?

Also, fuck off, Old /tg/ may not have been amazing, and it may have had a strong share of cancer, but it was much more fun and twice as creative as what we have now. Nowadays its the same amount of cancer, but less fun and chill. Contrary to what you fags though, banning /wst/ has not improved things at all. Hell, banning /wst/ is the reason why all the degenerates migrated to /pfg/ in the first place since the /d/ version is a fucking trashfire that barely functions

>>53938864
>horror stories about games that start here.
I've had bad luck with the gamefinder thread. Games from here are much more tolerable.

So I'm curious, is there anything interesting to do with a free hand fighting build? I know it's supposed to be subpar but that's not a big deal. So far I've seen that there's a mediocre archetype for fighter and a couple of PoW disciplines that would work with it.

>>53938920

I've been working on a survey for when I recruit in my games, to try and weed out any troublemakers. The other option is just having to suffer and gain experience so you know who is and isn't a dumb ass.

>>53938920
Look at their apps first, judge for yourself, ad try to feel things out byhaving a discussion with them. If things still go wrong, you can always boot them

I can't tell what's just butthurt shitbabies and what's falseflagging anymore.

But y'know, the Starfinder thread seems to be going aight so far.

>>53938940
Scarlet Einhander, Scarlet Throne style, and whatever Pazuri has published.

You'll have to hit up our homebrew anons if you want something good though.

>>53938955
>>53938928
>>53938956
That reminds me, we have a discord server don't we?

>>53938900
So do my PF games.

>>53938759
You too anon.

Would a reoccurring clown monster be too cliche? Would it be worse if was actually a good guy?

>>53938973
>But y'know, the Starfinder thread seems to be going aight so far.
That's because /pgg/ isn't going to the starfinder thread to shit on it.

>>53938973
This thread's been really good, too!

>>53938973
Anon, the Starfinder thread seems to be three people talking to each other, with the conversation being "Does Starfinder do THIS awesome thing?!" followed by two replies stating "Yes, it does THAT awesome thing!!".

And more than likely the three people are one person talking to themselves. Because the only information we have on Starfinder is minimal and based almost entirely on blogposts made by Paizo to hype up the system and leaked information of character sheets and monster statblocks for, like, 10 monsters.

>>53938973
It's a small group of people who are butthurt about losing /pfg/ who are propping up the starfinder thread, a small group of people who are rabidly foaming at the mouth about how important /pgg/ is who are propping up this thread, and a whole lot of people who don't give a shit caught in between on both threads.

>>53939022

Beats having no one talk about it at all and instead being buried under all of your ERP logs, shittalk and app circle jerks.

>>53939022
It's had 22 different IPs anon, there's more people on the internet than you and 'THAT PERSON'

>>53938995
Indeed we do, and it's a pretty good litmus test for autism.

>>53938995
Don't go there, it is shit.
Discord was possibly thbiggest mistake this general made. We are meant to be anons, not celebs

>>53939042
OK then fuck off already

>>53939075

nah

Why are the 5e people making starfinder threads to drive a wedge between us to make their general look better?

>Working on initiating bloodrager archetype
>Notice that two new bloodlines have been added (Shapechanger and Naga)
>Can now move Chimera Soul from Aberrant Bloodline to Shapechanger Bloodline and give Sleeping Goddess to the Aberrant Bloodline.
>Can now include Steel Serpent associated with the Naga bloodline

Feels good man

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>>53938573
>wrath of the righteous
>7 players

>>53939109
One's the DM.

>>53939095
Nobody cares about your stupid internet tribalism.

>>53939095
Nobody cares

>>53939055
>waaaagh! Don't talk about IPs!
>Unless the IPs agree with me
Excellent show, you should enter into politics!

>>53939095
Same reason why Kitsunefag likes to shit talk how weeb and degenerate Pathfinder is, yet still uses the same kitsune pics.
People who too much time on their hands who can be satisfied unless they're whining and shitting about something

>>53939127

>6 players
>WotR

People do know these things are meant for 4 players, do they?

>>53939074
>>53939056
Sounds magical

>>53939095
>5e people
Come on anon, stop smearing other threads in the dirt. It's just the one very persistent shitposter we've had for months, finding a new thing to latch onto.

>>53939055
5 of those IPs are me. It's not hard to fake that.

>>53939140

17 apps and you figure 1 or 2 might flake on you.

>>53939140
You've clearly not seen a pfg game before.


For my part, I take 5 players min, so if someone misses a week, it's no big deal

>>53939099
Have you looked at this thing yet?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vtE5ykBrFbVEia47iXl8Y2SaPzVjFGzGoHrPL0P4KlY/edit?usp=sharing

>>53939138
I wasn't the one who brought up IPs before,ya moron.

>>53939151
>Oh yeah 5 are me lel

(x) Doubt

And you'd be doing this for what reason?

>>53939158
Have any /pgg/ games (PLD aside) actually lost any players in the post-RotJR era?

>>53939160
>You've clearly not seen a pfg game before.

I have not, so explain to me why you want so much *mass* in the game when you solve a problem only 4% of the time, and 96% of the rest is handling 6 players?

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What kind of campaign traits would you like to see in a Land of the Linnorm Kings game?

I am thinking about calling them 'Sagas', with each one relating to a particularly heroic (or infamous) Ulfen hero.

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>>53939179
Here, I'll do you a solid.

>>53939193
Vult dropped out of Hell's Rebels, but I don't think so other than that.

>>53939206
This is just how we are

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>>53939095
5e isn't doing this. This is a ploy by Paizo & the illuminati to generate more discussion about Starfinder.

>>53939193

I have had to drop out of a game before.
My motherboard died and I could not get a replacement for a few weeks.

Felt bad man

>>53939179
I'd point you to >>53938681 since you're likely the same person, but you'll just go "nu-uh it isn't" like you have been this entire thread despite the fact that even when you try to deny culpability the IP count still won't go up

>>53939209
Sagas sound cool. Personally, I'd wouldn't mind a trait for people either dual-eilding sword+axe, or people who use wooden shields and shortswords. Or perhaps traits for wearing hide and pelts for would-be berserkers

>>53938646
Writefag gave us this last thread featuring more ensoulment characters.
https://pastebin.com/dNmVFt4t

>>53939177
The one I'm working on is more Animus-based, and a lot tighter-integrated with bloodlines and disciplines I feel.

Shapechanger bloodline is crazy busted with Enlarge Person as a 1st-level spell and that 4th level power being crazy strong action-economy-wise

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>>53939239
Really, there's not enough conversation for Pathfinder as-is, and Starfinder doesn't even exist yet. Just keep the thread singular. Helps keep the clutter down too.
>mfw shitposting starts in two different generals
>mfw six simultaneous threads when there could have been just one.

>>53939209
>Raider's bastard
>Fled from Linnorm Hunt
>Iriseni escapee
>Blood of the beast

>>53939209
I love the idea of the Saga, if this was a later-level campaign I would suggest the Saga actually pertains to the making of your character's legend.

But yes, me likey very much!

>>53939265
Well I'm saying that it wasn't me, you're saying it was, and neither of us have any goddamn proof either way.

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>>53939314

Writing these down.

>>53939315

The idea was to live up to the Sagas of the Old Heroes. But I can see where you are coming from.

Maybe I'll introduce a boon system later? the more the Skalds sing of your tales,
the greater your power and prestige grows!

>>53939358
>the more the Skalds sing of your tales,
> the greater your power and prestige grows!
Suddenly the celeb-hungry culture of /pgg/ makes so much more sense!

>>53939358
Skalds are the source of a man's immortality, for only through reputation can your name carry across the ages, and the best way to carry your reputation is to have it written in a song or Saga!

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>>53939284
So, how would Bloodline Spells interact in this archetype then? I'd imagine that your planning on replacing Casting with Manuevers, so will you be using Animus to cast spells, or what?

>>53939209
>Hanged Man
>Blood-debt
>Coward's Son
>Shield-thane
>Flyting Finesse
>Thrall-born
>Beat-Hide Hulk
>Saga Study
>One-Eye
>Linnorm Cursed
>Fey Marked
>Raider's Son
>Dragon Sailor
>Tarnished Reputation

>>53939358
>boon system
I'd vote against adding subsystems anon, particularly something that would require a DM tracking NPCs. Maybe have it act like story feats, or a chain of story feats where you gain bonuses based on what kind of saga you were completing (that being what actions you took/challenges you overcame)? Or look at how WotR did it with those campaign traits.

>>53939358
>>53939432
Hey, you guys know that the Linnorm Kings Campaign Book already includes a Reputation system?

>>53939385
Animus to cast spells doesn't sound like a bad idea, actually! Originally it was just a pool of uses equal to the user's Charisma modifier, with a DC equal to 10+1/2 Bloodrager Level + CHA mod. Really, Animus would be used more as a representation of "boiling blood", kind of like an adrenaline mechanic, and the Bloodrager can select some animus augments and animus-based powers in place of bonus feats.

>>53939358
>>53939432
Oh, or, idea, each chapter has a number of "Saga" points, where one character can claim it as part of their Saga and get a boon specific to that event. Like "Fjolnar the Mighty slew the gatekeeper of the fort" means Fjolnar decided to take credit for killing the gatekeeper and gains a +2 Intimidate check or something, but can't claim any more events during that section of the adventure or until everyone else has done so. Maybe throw in "displays of prowess beyond mortal measure" (impressive skill checks or other player-made events) as a small boon or part of the saga that happens whenever it happens.

>>53939446

There is a Linnorm campaign book?

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I need a name for a /pgg/ themed discipline

>>53939569
Did the dragon jizz on her tits?

Was the jizz too hot or something?

>>53939569
Flaming Troll. I had like half a discipline written up, but I haven't gone back to it for a while. Feel free to use the name.

>>53939527
Yeah, right here!

http://docdro.id/OE1LGUM

It includes everything from notable people to quests.

>>53939585
No, the dragon pried her heart out. It was from some game that I don't recall for the Xbox that later came to PC.

Had weird 'pawns' that you could send to other people, but no true multiplayer

>>53939606
You talking shit about motherfucking Dragon's Dogma?

>>53939621
Yep! That's the game.

>>53939569
Meaningless Toil

>>53939606
Ah, it looked like jizz and she's dressed like a slut so I assumed it was someones snowflake OC or something.

So, for ensoulment does Jericho show real depth as a character or is it all fake depth?

>>53939708
HERE WE GO AGAIN

>>53939569
Tormented Mind
Fractured Heart
Haunted Eye
Dogged Rumor
Invaded Bastion

There, some real answers

>>53939708
Real depth. DHB has outdone himself once again. I want him inside me

>>53939708
Shut the fuck up about Ensoulment characters

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>>53939432
>>53939496
>>53939385

Be gentle, this is the first time I've homebrewed up traits, but..

>Saga of the Shield Maiden: Allies adjacent to you gain a +2 shield bonus to AC. This stacks with any existing shield bonuses they might have.

>Saga of the Berserker: Once per battle, when you fail an Intimidate action to demoralize an enemy you may re-roll that check as a free action. You must take the second result, even if it is worse.

>Saga of the Bloodied Hand: When you are below half HP, you add a +2 morale bonus to your damage.

>Saga of the Witch Hunter: Once per day when you fail a saving throw against an effect created by a fey or Witch that would possess or incapacitate you mentally, you may immediately reroll that saving throw as a free action. You must take the second result, even if it is worse.

>Saga of the Clever Wolf: You a +2 trait bonus on all combat maneuver checks.

>>53939767
>>53939747
At least it's going to be over soon... Right?

>>53939781
Yes

>>53939708
It's fine I guess. Not quite as good as some of the other assumed picks, though.

>>53939781
We thought that about PLD and Blingmaker.

>>53939780
>dat Shield Maiden

I want to PROTECT THEIR SMILES

It costs[30x Level] gold to get a single extra hit point through retraining. So it is more economical to train continuously rather than put it off. Why hasn't your character hit the gym for those meat points yet?

>>53939780
All too combat focused, no spell stuff

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>>53939808
You need only stand by their side, anon!

>>53939813
Something for a Huldra's magic or a woman's magic might be good, yeah.

>>53939780
Saga of the Witch Hunter is under powered, at least compared to the others. I'd say "once per day you may reroll a failed saving throw against a spell, spell-like, or supernatural ability created by a fey or Arcane Caster."

>>53939813

Still working out ones I like.

>>53939827

Noted, I will do so.

>>53939824
I could take that awesome archetype that gives STR AoOs, take that trait, and get really protective.

>>53939780
I like them! Though Wolf seems a ad too broad. Perhaps limit it to a select list of manuevers, such as Trip, Overrun, and Disarm?

Also, you need some options for Skalds, and other Casters

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High level dragonslaying campaign with Dahak WHEN?

>>53939861
Never, because Paizo hates dragons.

>>53939780
If you could include something for kineticists, that'd be swell.

>>53939890
Oh, I know that silly! I'm just hopeful someone around these parts will make the campaign, considering dragons are really heckin' cool and killing them is even cooler.

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>>53939780
>>Saga of the Shield Maiden:
SHIELD WALL!
We /jomsborg/ now!

>>53939861
But where would it even take place?

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>>53939927
>But where would it even take place?

Everywhere, all of Avistan. The party are legendary heroes inexplicably called to the final Convocation of Dragons, where Dahak arrives in a blaze of destructive dragonfire.

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More traits incoming;

>Saga of the Laughing Deadman: You add a +1 trait bonus any bonus conferred by a Bardic Performance or Inspired rage that you are currently preforming.

>Saga of the Raven Crone: Once per day, you can force an enemy targeted by one of your Enchantment, Illusion, Necromancy or Conjuration spells to roll twice and take the lower result.

>Saga of the Wind Rider: Once per day, you can re-roll a failed Handle Animal or Ride check. In addition, if you posses the Mounted Combat feat and fail to negate an attack against your mount, you may choose to split the damage evenly between the mount and yourself.

>>53939845

Noted.

>>53939861
Dahak and that dragon-slaying emp lord did nothing wrong. Those things need to either be killed off or exiled to another plane altogether.

>>53939861
But Dahak hates other dragons!

>>53939999
Who said he's arriving to make an alliance? He's there to set the entire continent on fire! He did it with Hell, he can do it to Avistan.

Brute Vigilante is a thing, but what are some other classes to play if you wanna hulk out? Alchemist gets mutagen, but is that any good?

>>53940061
Mutagen is amazing

But uh, if you're gonna hulk out

just play a fucking Bloodrager

>>53940061
Barbarian. It is literally in the description

>>53939209
Campaign traits are cancer.

>>53940168
Campaign Traits are beautiful, they encourage you to actually give a damn about being part of the plot.

>>53940200
Anyone with half a brain can do that though. Yu shouldn't need to be encouraged to that and they ultimately constrain people who could have fit in the plot in ways not anticipated.

>>53937505
My DM is planning an all expense paid vacation to the rusty shank town that is level one combat. Anyone got any tanky build suggestions to spite him?

>>53940061
Abyssal Bloodrager
You're welcome

>>53940240
Human Barbarian.
Slam max con.
Toughness.
Tribal scarring or whatever that one ability is.
Enjoy your 22 HP at 1st

>>53940235
For every master plotsmith that can craft a compelling plot out of dry twigs and bullshit, there's a dozen journeymen who will end up writing a guy who's only there for the lolz.

>>53940235
Which is why Campaign traits are optional, dumbass.

>>53940200
The gripe with campaign traits is that they straight up warp decision making depending on the bonuses. Nobody wants a trait that's +5 to CMD against bullrushes and AC when it's raining and you have the dazzled condition, but EVERYONE wants the trait that's a +1 to Will saves and Perception checks while adding it as a class skill.

>>53940235
There's always at least a couple traits that are just "I live here" or "I just got here" or something. You're not being constrained.

>>53940240
You really only need something with good Con and a d10+ hit dice, which means your average fighter or Barbarian.

>>53940284
No they aren't. Most GM's REQUIRE you take one.

>>53940240
Human Fighter.
Get the best armor you can.
Defender of the Society
Dodge
Shield Focus
Have 14 DEX
You now have 23 AC assuming you're wearing breastplate.

>>53940284
>the guy who doesn't take a campaign trait because he didn't want them mechanically gets fucking blasted and his app his thrown out, even though he legit tried to tie his shit in
>all because he didn't have the shitty trait

>>53940289
>I'm a Crusader who...

>Does not have parents in the Crusade
>Was not rescued in the Crusade by a mysterious woman
>Was never attacked as a child by demons
>Does not have mysterious parents
>Was not part of a ritual gone wrong by demon cultists

A character who has none of that going on for their WotR campaign sounds kind of lame, famalam.

>>53940337
>2 traits + Campaign, 3 traits if drawback

Nigga this ain't hard, it's FREE TRAITS. WHY YOU PISSY ABOUT FREE TRAITS.

>>53940240
Step 1: Be Human Barbarian
Step 2: Have Raging Vitality and Power Attack
Step 3: Have Greatsword/Earthbreaker/Falchion/Glaive/whatever
Step 4: Destroy rusty shank town in a barbarian rampage
If this goes beyond level one, use Superstition with Human FCB for extra fug.

>>53940338
Are you retarded? I can think of several characters right off the goddamn bat that fit none of those and could work well in a WotR campaign.

And to be fari, Wrath is the worst example for trying to suggest campaign traits are necessary. Jade Regeant is probably a better one.

>>53940350
>EVERY GM does this

nigga what

>>53940350
Because maybe none of the fucking campaign traits match anything the player wants to do or the character they have?

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>>53940278
>>53940299
>>53940359
>>53940334
Think I'll go with the Barb then. Maybe combine it with pic related for extra fun. Thanks anons.

>>53940392
>Playing a snowflake

>>53940455
Snowflake doesn't have anything to do with it though.

>>53939385
A lot of these sound super neato.

I'd probably make "One Eye" an oracle thingy though.

Anyone know of a way to get the Monk property onto a weapon, or otherwise enable Flurry with it in 1pp, other than Crusader's Flurry?

>>53940473
You'll be able to do it with Versatile soon from the Adventurer's Armory. Other than that, Ki Weapon enhancement.

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>all these /pfg/ games with gestalt and 3pp/house rules out the ass
I just want to play a normal 1pp game.

>>53940602
Why

>>53940602
Why? First party classes are ass.

I can't think of a single one I would want to play both mechanically or conceptually.

>>53940602
>roll20.net

There you go anon, tons of games running your boring chargen rules.

>one of the Starfinder gods is the fusion of the AI from Iron Gods AP and the brain the robots were building in Distant Worlds

neat

>>53940602
Why would you want plain out-of-the-box? That's the road that leads to every fighter's list of feats looking the same until 5th level, the road of CHARGEPOUNCERAGELANCE Barbarians, and the road of not being able to scale down your spells to meet lesser foes.

>>53940643
>Not wanting to play Paladin, Bard, Alchemist, Inquisitor, Investigator, Skald, Hunter, Vigilante, Slayer, or Occultist.

Friendo, the fuck is wrong with you?

>>53940753
Okay, maybe Alcehmist.

The rest don't interest me in the slightest.

>>53940768
Between those classes you can play basically anything. What do you want that can't be replicated there?

What's the most fun non-spellcasting class?

I'm hoping the Shifter is one.

How much would a Ring of Mirror Image be?

>>53940787
Any psionic manifester, a not tedious and hard to understand spellcaster, and a fun to play martial.

>>53940792
Technically, Kineticist. I'd also rate Slayer and Brawler up there. Fighter technically counts too. And Barbarian is good for damage.

>>53940810
Uses per day, constant, or command word?

>>53940768
>>53940812
Actually add Slayer to that. I played one once and it was tolerable.

>>53940753
Sure all those classes are great, but I'd also like to have access to shit like

>Legendary Rogues and Vigilantes
>Feat Tax rules to unfuck stuff like Combat Maneuvers and the Power Attack Tax on every single Str martial in existence
>Avowed

Because these things are also fun. And because having a group that's such faggots that they can't be trusted to bring in 3pp for the group to vet as a whole means your group is shit.

>>53940792
Shifters are 4casters

>>53940861
Well that's disappointing.

>>53940812
>Not tedious and hard to understand spell caster

So... literally all the classes I mentioned (minus occultist)? If you have a hate-on for Vancian then this is very much the wrong system for you.

>Fun to play martial.

Every class I mentioned.

>>53940857
>Sure all those classes are great, but I'd also like to have access to shit like

Huh? I was just trying to figure out what someone could want that can't be replicated by a 1pp class. Of course house rules make things better, that's true with every RPG.

Also, Avowed is a shit.

>>53940861

Ya got any proof for that?

>>53940830
Rings are inherently items that you can use All Day™, right? So uses per day are basically whenever activated, and to keep it in line with the Blinking Ring let's say it's a command word to refresh your number of images.

>>53940899
They were described as 'Shifters are to Druids as Paladins are to Clerics'

>>53940897
>Avowed is a shit

opinion discarded

>>53940897
>>53940897
>then this is very much the wrong system for you.
I mean between Psionics and Spheres, I have plenty of options to play and not even fucking touch Vancian casting. And I've yet to see a magic system in another game I liked as much as 3.5 style psionics.

Yeah, no.

>>53940943
It is though.

>>53940943
>shit taste detected

>>53940897
Vancian's retarded, and a sacred cow that should have been slaughtered the moment Psionics and The Binder were released.

>>53940897
>He thinks the occultist is hard to understand
>He thinks that "replicating" is what people want and that people somehow don't want different mechanics that aren't hamstringed by dumb Paizo decisions

>>53940924
For a 2nd level spell at CL 3:
It would cost 24,000 gp for continuous use ring of mirror image.

>>53940944
Wait fuck, refreshed and forgot part of my post
>Paladins
>Bards
>Investigators
>fun
Yeah, no.

>>53940897
>Avowed is a shit
Oh, you're Rory. No wonder you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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>this thread right now

>>53941023
Translator's Note: The joke here is that Rory hasn't hated the avowed for over a month now, bare minimum

>>53940994
I actually I do legit have trouble creating concepts I want to play using only first party materials.

>>53940932
Isn't that what a ranger is supposed to be?

>>53941059
The what?

>>53940999
Then how come the ring of Blinking is only 3K more for a 3rd level spell? I'd have thought that a level 2 would be closer to 18-20K...

>>53938573
>TFW JttW closes in 3 days and still no Amanandaran or Gokan hunks have applied to romance its host of lady apps

>>53941059
>inb4 Shifters have a strict code and fall mechanics too
RAWFUL NEUTRAR ONRY

>>53941064
The 4-level caster tied to nature like the druid.

>>53941059
No, Rangers are the Inquisitors of the Druidic world, not the Paladins.

>>53940932
>>53940932
That is arguably an inaccurate description. It goes more like this

Rangers = Paladins = Bloodragers = Fighter (CoAA) = Medium = Antipaladin
Hunters = Warpriests = Skald = Magus = Occultist = Inquisitor = Bard = Summoner = Spiritualist = Vigilante (Casting archetype)
Druids = Clerics = Sorceror = Wizard = Psychic = Oracle = Witch = Arcanist

>>53941067
>implying Paizo would ever make another class even remotely tied to being Lawful.

Shifter is going to be Chaotic only.

>>53941069
R-a-n-g-e-r?
Never heard of it mang
>>53941076
No thats the Hunter.

>>53941088
They''ve done it dozens of times before and as much as I loath alginments and alignment restrictions, a Chaotic Only class would be a nice change of pace.

>>53941066
doubleaction needs to finish that witch app so I can decide if I want a hairjob or not.

>>53941111
>Done twice
>LITERALLY DOZENS

???

>>53941065
Because Paizo doesn't know how to follow their own pricing rules.

>>53941066
>characters MUST be from Tian Xia
>must is in big bold letters and underlined twice
>statement is the first thing written in char gen
>someone makes a chick from Vudra

>>53941134
According to the discord, they checked with Argentum if it was okay.

>>53941146
Then the hell is the point of that then if people can just ignore that shit anyway?

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>>53941066
>MFW I realize foxtits still doesn't have a character sheet completed

>>53941146
>make a rule
>it isn't actually a rule

>>53941165
>>53941170
Reminder that Argentum is the king of nepotism on /pfg/.

>>53941122
Ugh, I'm just going to assume it's 18K and go off of that.

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>>53938573
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west (Closing in 4 Days)
>(Closing in 4 Days)
I need to get a move on if I'm gonna make it in time.

>>53941233
Which concept did you settle on?

>>53939810
My wizard has, she's meaty! Plus simulacrum get half of the base stats, so if she spends the time to try to maximize her HP, her copies will be relatively buff for their (reduced) level as well!

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>>53941248
>Which concept did you settle on?
Literally Furuta

>>53940643
>>53940618
Because I generally dislike initiators and they're the most commonly used 3pp material.
I dislike how they have all-day resources and make anything else that wants to fight, like a magus or stalker, basically irrelevant.

>>53941293
>I dislike how they have all-day resources
Are you a literal meme?
The other complaint is valid imo, but I'd rather have something interesting to play

>>53941170
>>53941192
Didn't the actual Journey To The West have Indians, Japanese, and even a Russian in it?

>>53941293
Fuck off Parrot.

>>53941326
Yes and this game takes place all over Golarion but:

>characters MUST be from Tian Xia
>must is in big bold letters and underlined twice
>statement is the first thing written in char gen

>>53941326
I mean Journey to the West is literally about going to India.

So the restriction was always profoundly retarded.

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Could you guys sell me on the concept of the Bloodrager? I just don't get it. It seems weirdly uninteresting to me.

>>53941382
Ragemage. A barbarian who's anger is SO great he warps reality around him

>>53941382

Magic barb with bloodlines.

>>53941282
>>53941233
I am however torn.

A Friendless&Covetous Intrigue Oracle fits so well it hurts.

However on the other side I need to somehow be both a samurai and a tea master. Geisha Demagogue bard is a good fit. However a Bannerman Bushi Warlord does as well.

I am extremely torn.

>>53941382
ANGRY BLOOD

>>53941402
It's gestalt you dummy.

You can be both.

>>53941382
>not playing an Android Bloodrager with the Nanite Bloodline who is just a bizarre Terminator

>>53941382
Imagine a sorcerer.
Now imagine that, when your parents fucked an extra-dimensional satanbeast, instead of being born a scrawny bitch-boy with phenomenal cosmic powers, you were born a hulking fuck-monsters with superpowers fueled by hate and rage.

>>53941350
>>53941352
It's a special concession the character is getting with the DM because they're friends. Also note that the app has no contact information or availability.

>>53941450
That's actually kinda shitty if you;re not just trying to drum up bullshit.

Which you most likely are.

>>53940602
From the responses, as you can see /pfg/ is hugely autistic.

>>53941422
I can't be an Friendless&Covetous Intrigue Oracle || Bannerman Bushi Warlord || Geisha Demagogue Bard

Too many classes.

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>>53941442
>>53941427
>>53941412
>>53941397
>>53941393
Huh. Well, alright.

I suppose an abyssal bloodrager demonspawn tiefling would be pretty cool, I guess? I dunno, it just sort of feels like it's missing something.

>>53941464
>player asked to ignore what seems to be a primary chargen rule and was allowed
>"Contact: You know where already, silly!"
>Availability not listed, likely because the DM already knows this as well

These are the simple facts. Does it sound like bullshit?

>>53941475
10 levels!

>>53941501
Availability is kind of pointless to put on, considering the GM has flat-out stated "this is the only time I can play". You shouldn't apply if your availability doesn't line-up with that particular time, so putting it on your application is useless, isn't it?

>>53941450
>>53941464
>>53941501
Asking the GM for special permissions kind of important; otherwise you have to assume that it's ONLY what's listed, which might mean that you miss out on something unique like "sure, you can play an Azlanti if you start as a 9th-level instead of 10th and are always 1 level behind".

>>53941562
>Asking the GM for special permissions kind of important; otherwise you have to assume that it's ONLY what's listed
This isn't just asking to use some material that wasn't listed in Char Gen or something. This is straight up asking to ignore something the DM obviously felt was important enough to bold, underline, and put in all caps.

>>53941541
That's a fair point, though it didn't stop plenty of other applications. I think the other two points are pretty valid, though.

>>53941562
I think if the GM makes a given rule the very first chargen rule, then bolds and underlines it, you can assume it to be fairly iron-clad.

>>53941574
>>53941573
So does that mean they're banned now from /pfg/ games, ooooor?

>>53941584
No, that's not the issue. The issue is that they seem to have been given special permission to ignore what seems to be an important character creation rule. So the situation is one of two things:

1. The GM giving out special privileges to certain people

2. The GM creating a rule but not enforcing it

Neither are good things.