Warhammer 40,000 General - /40kg/

What's the most special characters you've seen crammed into a list? Everyone here appears to just like to add as many as physically possible, especially the BA players with Sanguinor/Dante/Corbulo/Mephy superunits in 7e.
Personally I love playing against chracterspam, since I can blast the shit out of them and if I lose I lose nothing. The more snowflake people make their fluff the more I enjoy shooting their snowflakes with random chumps, but everyone else seems to be really into herohammer and GW's "everyone into the wrestling ring, fuck the war" style of writing.

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are those worth it ?

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This thread belongs to the Dark Mechanicum.

>>53928635

This might be the gayest OP image I've ever seen.

>>53928779
Pure love between a male and female is gay?

Complete noob here

Can I get some advice

Wulfen or Predator for anti vehicle? Wulfen are 13pp where as a predator with lascannons is only 9pp; I already own the wulfen though

Dose the ordinatus ulator have the best gun in 7e

Is there an EPUB for Black Legion yet?

I bought a BaC box to start up a marine army a few months back. What should i do with all my manlets?

>>53928868
resell on ebay fast before even 30k faggot stop buying this shit

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Pretend the maulerfiends are blood slaughterers (they cost one less point) with two slaughter blades each.

The Heldrake, Chaos Lord and Termiators cause disruption and blow up major sources of anti-vehicle and general spooky things my Zerkers can't deal with effectively. The rest of the army charges forward and rapes everything to death so hard it isn't even funny.

>>53928635
does he fuck her with his peenus weenis in her giney winey?

Can we quickly talk about how Dark Imperium is a fucking fantastic starter kit?

When was the last time you got this much value in a starter box?

>>53928930
>When was the last time you got this much value in a starter box?

literraly everytime except battle for maccrage

>>53928930
shill

>>53928834
Wulfen are great but you shouldn't be relying on them to be your "anti-vehicle". A Predator would be a solid purchase.

Help /tg/, I keep losing all my games.
>termie sorcerer, termies, CC chaos marines in a rhino, 2 units of 10 daemonettes, herald and fiend
>vs Admech, he bunkers up in the corner
>run forward, rhino n fiend out of sight
>all the daemonettes and and herald gets blown away
>marines, fiend and termies get in to combat
>chop up half his infantry + rust stalkers, fiend dies
>infantry retreats bar the stalkers and a dominus joins the fight
>rust stalkers and friend chop up the marines while termies get blown away

>>53928952
Have any source for that?

>>53928965
Thank you Anon

My store plays at 50pp and I'm struggling to fit in my Wulfen into a battalion formation. Looks like a wasted purchase perhaps unless I can find another unit to use for anti vehicle.

>>53928985
Heldrakes break up crowds pretty well.

>>53928930
>When was the last time you got this much value in a starter box?

Starter sets are ALWAYS good value.
Actually this starter set is pretty poor compared to the AoS one that sold for $20 to $50 on ebay and flgs for a year and half

>>53928930
This jackass thinks Gee Dubs is gonna send him free shit if he advertises for them.

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>>53928779

>>53928985
>that fucking atrocious, zero-synergy list
No wonder you're getting btfo, you're a fucking idiot.

>>53928985
you shouldn't leave the leave the ranged game so drastically to him, a defiler or fiend could help.

Have you tried deep striking to deny the retreat?

>>53928930

>When was the last time you got this much value in a starter box?

Operation: Ice Storm.

>>53928985
Your list does seem like "random shit: the army" which will contribute to the BTFO.

>>53928635

Why are his proportions so normal?

Its disgusting

>>53929058
But what do I do about it? What would be better?

>>53928930
>When was the last time you got this much value in a starter box?

Like, every other starterbox.
except when they fucked us with some shitty scenery in 4ed

>>53928673
Only read Azrael. Wasnt bad if you like Dark Angels, explores so cool themes with them. Some doubt about the loyal/traitor aspect creeps into it but is dismissed as Azreal states in it that if the Fallen were discovered by any non-Dark Angels he'd give himself and his chapter up to the Inquisition if they deemed it too heretical.

>>53928635
This looks like art for a Dynasty Warriors game with the armor swapped.

>>53928930
Like every starter has been better.
Maybe the only shitty one was the one with the nids and Ultramarines.
The 3rd edition one at least had multi part kits, unlike this babies first toy soldier snap fit.

>>53928930
Warhammer fantasy starter set always had much greater discount.
Betrayal at calth completely btfo dark imperium as far as savings go, as do most other starter sets.

How to use Defilers in 8th?

>>53929102
The whole point is I have a, relatively, huge swarm daemons and then elite marines.

They all reach his lines turn 2.

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>>53928930
its only somewhat good on wayland even if they are still expensive on that set.
other starter were better.

>>53929131
A better list. For starters, switch those melee CSM for some Khorne Berzerkers, you're getting a unit that can casually brutalize anything that doesn't have a 3++ invuln while only costing 17ppm with chainaxes.

Second, never take only one Maulerfiend. Dinobots should always be taken in pairs. Also save the points for the Daemonettes so you can summon them because they're too fragile to just run up the board.

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>>53929188
Shoot the smashy stuff, smash the shooty stuff.

>>53929244
Too slow for the latter, too innacurate for the former, too expensive for both.

>>53928952
>starter value
mk3 = 10 tacticals, basic speeder and 20 dark eldar warriors
>feelsbadman

>>53929056
was gonna make a magic mike joke then I remembered magic is heresy

>>53929189
Marines are more of an all-around option. If you want to focus in CC you should go with berserkers as >>53929234 mentioned. Alternatively, a helbrute makes a decent distraction carnifex instead of the daemonettes, and you could pad out your force with a big blob of cultists. They're a fair number of attacks for basically peanuts. Ultimately you need to get more specialized melee equipment into your opponent's face - warp talons or raptors would be good too.

Are custodes viable this edition. Thoughts on how they could be used in a list?

>>53929280

Friend >>53929244 isn't wrong about the usage though. It's the best way to use a shit unit.

>>53929318
No he is wrong, their best use is for Soul Grinder conversions.

>>53929344
Hmm. I stand corrected.

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I think i want to start an Imperial Guard army, what are the pros and cons of playing IG in 8E ?
Are they one of the better armies in 8E or are they bad ?


My plan is to play a mixed army, neither infantry, nor vehicle spam, but rather a little bit of everything

>>53929293
They're strong as fuck, but until FW gets off their asses can only be run as a Imperium army

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>>53929359
;)

At least pairs of Dinobots can do it's job more or less decently. Add in ForgeWorld stuff and we start getting competent. The ticks in particular are simply amazing.

Any ork players can help me out with dealing with deathwing terminators what can i get that has ap modifier?

>>53929285
Plus two ruins, some plastic multi part palm tries, multi part barricada and multi part barrels.

The marines and DE all had weapon options even the basic landspeeder had the multi-melta option.
It also came with a complete rulebook unlike the shitty version 4th had

>>53929431
not an ork player, but today i lost 9 to 30 boyz in a single round of combat, they had a banner and a warboss nearby

>>53929455
Fair enough anon, I forgot about the terrain/rulebook. I was just thinking of the model value alone.

Those trees were terrible, though.

>>53929431
5 attacks per boy hitting on 2s and wounding on 4s, seems like a pretty points-efficient method of overwhelming their 2+ save. There's also meganobs to run their opposite number against them, just make sure to activate first.

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>literally better than kharn
GeeDubs what the fuck. They even gave him the psyker denial ability Kharn had.

>>53929461
The guy i play against at my LGS deepstrikes near my boyz and shoots them with their 4 shots each and then when i charge he overwatches them to death with only a few boyz left to do anything

i'm running 30 boyz too

>>53929494
Are meganobz still good without transport though? or would i need them to be transported somewhere especially with no inv

>>53929488
Better than no terrain at all like the new starter.

>>53929522
well, my enemy used da jump to deapstrike them next to my termies ( which i deepstriked in my round )....
Maybe some mek guns with custom mega blaster things could kill them, they have S8 -3 d2 if i remember correctly

>>53929009
Not wasted at all. Wulfen are very, very strong. Either use them whenever you get to larger games or consider swapping them in for other stuff as a change of pace. But yes, you'd be better off with a quad las predator or some Long Fangs for anti-vehicle duty.

>>53929561
True, I was pretty surprised that there was nothing in there. I stopped playing after 3rd edition, but followed from time to time. It seemed like many of the other starters had some sort of terrain in there (like the crashed lander from Battle for Macragge)

>>53929549
A transport would definitely help. If you're solely looking for the offensive ability to rip open kanz, you can take regular nobs with claws for a bit cheaper. Either way, they've gotta get where they're going by trukk or battlewagon.

>>53929418
Cool, thanks anon.

>>53929578
Thank you Anon much appreciated

>>53929589
So the question should be:

Can we discuss how shitty the new starter set for 8th is?

>>53929573
>>53929605
alright cool thanks for the help guys

>>53928779
>a space marine, impressed by the valor and faith of a female comrade in arms, seeks to win her affection with a traditional gift of flowers
>gay

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what do we think will be the best air supremacy/ground attack flyer in 8th and why is it the thunderbolt

>>53928985
So how about this.
Emperors children patrol
>chaos termie lord
>sorcerer
>termies
>10 noise marine troops
>hell brute
>fiend of Slaanesh

Just deepstrike in there turn 1 and rush them down with terminators while the noise marines, fiend and hell brute join in later.

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Alright, let's say I want to build my 500pts to 2000 (once plastic comes out or 3rd party) is this a good way to do it?

>>53929641
I'm more curious about why you can't buy the Deathguard separately

>>53929512
>less than 12 attacks
Dropped

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>>53929663
>Not the Dakkajet

Daemon engine tier list? (With FW)

>>53929417
IG are quite good this edition.

Mixed armies work alright if you go blitzkrieg style, infantry including some heavy support teams + leman russ fire support is strong.

>>53929512
Kharn is insanely easy to kill now. It's legit sad to watch.

>>53929685
Rhinos are irrelevant. Consider repressors.
Retributors are shit, consider dominions


I think battle sisters should only be used to fill out points right now, consider an outrider detachment, since fast attack is by far the best thing about sisters right now.

>>53929685
Run the Repentias as literally any other melee unit.
Crusaders, DCA, Arco-fags or Acolytes. Even a bloody PE would be better.

You see beside the PE in a full squad every other option is cheaper and better.
The only time when Repentias would be good is when you know there is 1+ Knight like model in the enemy army

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>>53928635
Here, have a sordid affair not for ants.

>>53928985
Firstly your list is shit.
Secondly you don't know how to use it.
Deep strike in the termies and sorc, then cast warp time on the termies to get them into easy charge range.
Secondly, get some noise marines or other strong shooting to provide some harassing fire as you move up the field, it will mean there are less guys shooting at you as you move up.

>>53929718
What the fuck are you trying to ask?

>>53929711
>spend 2 command points
>he dies after only making 6 weak-ass attacks because hes as fragile as a basic chaos lord but with worse buffs

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>mfw my lgs bought the 8th e edition horde edition meme hard.
>mfw infantry blobs everywhere
>mfw I bring my same list from 7th which is almost entirely vehicles.
>mfw I kill conscripts, guardsmen, tac squads, boyz and all other blobs easily, while almost everything they have just bounces off.
>mfw rather than bring some fucking melta and kill my overpriced vehicles, they'd rather complain that vehicles are op and that I'm being a waacfag for spamming them.

Why

>>53929512

I dunno, Zhufor lacks Kharn's attack twice rule, and his weapons are worse than gorechild.

Armour save is worse, but Kharn's been fucked in that regard since the good days.

Also, because of retarded reasons, your zerkers cant be troops in a skulltakers list, so theres less tactical flexibility.

Agree that he's a strong character though

Where were all these Sisters players hiding all this time and where are you even getting models that aren't old, ugly, and obscenly priced

>>53929746
Retribution can be good, but they need HB and a full squad. Any other option is questionable at best.

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>enemy death croissant flies into my backline
>nearly take it down in the shooting phase (that -1 to hit is really good)
>only 2 wounds left
>charge phase
>remember that my drones can Fly
>charge 2 squads of 2 gun drones at the croissant
>4 hits
>2 wounds
>he fails both his saves
>plane explodes
>takes all 4 drones down with it

I'll never forget the bravest little drone swarm

>>53928985
Are you fucking running your terminators across the board? Why?
>getting BTFO by one of the weaker units in the admech codex
What am I even reading

>>53929726
He's a character so he's only easy to kill if you make him run before your other guys (or if your opponent spams snipers but I never saw that and I can't really imagine it being that powerful versus Chaos)

>>53929778
There are multiple detachments that remedy this

>>53929771
because 40k players are idiots

>>53929689
Starter set sprues often mix the different units together on the sprues to a certain degree to pack them as tightly as possible. This means they tend not to be sold separately, although it does happen from time to time like the GSC HQs. They have made other new Death Guard that will be available separately, and are likely much more posable, but they just haven't been released yet.

>>53929802

true, but then you either take a command point hit or end up taking more HQ's as a tax

>>53929771
>Things that are not true for 500
Unless they are too stupid to assault or take HWT

>>53929782
We just had a second or third army.
Buy models from time to time. Since we hadn't had a model in 20 years it is easy to have everything you need after so long.

For starting? eBay, recaster, third party or make your own from kit bashing or scratch built.
Trying to buy SoB from GW is not recommended

>>53929823
well, from his post, it sounds like they are that stupid.

If a space marine scout were to ingest tyranid ichor would he die?

>>53929794
Someone ran him with a squad of Zerkers in a Rhino. Despite him striking me first in close combat he fucking dies to two Deathwing Knights.

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>>53929771
New edition, same old players, mfw.

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>>53928930
This is a bait or one of the jews gameshop advertisers. Every box except 4th was better.

>>53929771
A lot of the conscript mathhammer relied on optimal play.

>>53929837
yeah rip

>>53928923
>her

>>53929771
Because anyone who wasn't ALREADY playing blobs has no earthly idea how to do it. It's not as point and click as any cheese has ever been

>>53928635
Had my 4th game today, 1500p of Orks vs. Death Guard.
I've been experimenting a little on how to play Orks without fielding any boyz and following a simple "toyz before boyz" ideal.
I had
>1x Morkanaut with 3 Meganobz (Power Klaw, Skorcha) inside of it and KFF
>1 Mek following and repairing the Morkanaut
>1 Gorkanaut with a Big Mek in Mega armor inside of it, my general
>Badrukk with 3 ammo runtz
>10 Flash Gitz
That's it. Played objectives against
>20x Poxwalkers
>20x Poxwalkers
>A land raider (2 TL Lascannons and meltaguns) with 9 DG marines and a Lord of Chaos
>A lord of contagion
>1 Helbrute
>3 Obliterators.
Pretty uneventful first two turns, besides for the Gorkanaut saving like 3 lascannon wounds on a 5+, the poxwalkers running to the objectives, the three Obliteratos wounding the Morka and the Helbrute failing a charge against it.

I got two objectives, one with the Mek and one with Badrukk + the Flash Gitz. And Badrukk shot down the Helbrute too. Meganobz came out of the Morkanaut belly who charged and killed the obliterators, and burned the poxwalkers to a crisp before charging them and finishing them off (They were already decimated by a turn of Morka fire). Meanwhile the Flash Gitz cleared the major objective controlled by the other 20 poxwalkers.

Those zombies are no joke, no battleshock and 5+ invul makes them really resilient objective holders, no shit.

>>53928930

It screws you over by including a full hardback rulebook which jacks the price up, so no.

Hell the model count isn't even all that great after you factor in that half the kit is plague zombies.

>>53929778
Zhufor's weapons are not weaker, except for maybe the ranged ones. Gorechild is wounding most characters on 3s anyway, but does a miserable D3 damage while the Skulltaker axe does a guaranteed 2 damage that becomes a 3 on 6s to wound. Since AP is irrelevant on characters because of invulns, Zhufor's axe is objectively better. I kek at how what is supossedly a Primarch's repaired axe is actually one of the worst unique weapons in the game.

Also Kharn's ability is nearly worthless, since anyone can simply spend two command points to destroy him before he gets his second row of attacks. Also still hits his comrades and can't reroll ones in melee with his ability. Meanwhile, Zhufor can deny the witch, has the standard reroll 1s ability and makes morale tests around him harder.

>>53929851
Wait, does this mean you can take a Greater Slaughterer of Khorne in your tsons list?

>>53929890


Gorkanaut then charges the Land Raiders and managed to put 11 wounds on it (Saved on 3s and saved two wounds sadly), lets the marine and the hero down, shoots, charges and puts 8 wounds on me. Lord of Contagion or whatever deepstrikes but fails a charge on the Meganobz who can now charge him, kill him and get to the objective.

By the end of the 4th turn I control three objectives, killed his general, got incursion and first blood points. All he has left is two tac marines and a severely wounded Land Raider.
Still he managed to blow up my Morkanaut that explodes on a 6 and well... it exploded. Killing my general inside of it on a roll of a 1, inflicting three unsaved mortal wounds on the two marines, and 5 wounds on the land raider who finally exploded.
So I won by objectives, points and wipeout. Wiping out what was left by exploding.
Had a really fun game overall and I'm achieving a lot from this list even though everyone told me I should play a fuckton of boyz and trukks (Which to be honest I don't like that much)

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>Have some Tau from end of 5th, beginning of 6th.
>Never played because everyone near me complained about Tau and I felt bad for collecting them
>8th edition comes
>Total resets across the board
>heresmychance.jpg

So I'm getting back into 40k and I'm hopefull
Only question is would it be cheesy to field 1 Ripparoni-tide and one Stormsurge in the same list?

Love me some big ass robots.

>>53929855
How could i fluff my chapters initiation write to involve slaying a feral bug and doing *something* with it's ichor, or is it just not feasible?

>>53929839
Fucking how?

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>>53929056
>genetically enhanced super soldiers
>v-torso with barbie doll waistline
>4%BF

It's a battlefield not a fucking Mr Universe contest. Do the marine captains pay extra to carry all the body oil or is it included as standard?

>>53929922
You must be 18 to post here

>>53929823
They complain that taking less anti horde and more a/t makes them weaker in the "horde meta"

>>53929839
>he charged resiliant, anti-MEQ units with his choppy-MEQ and got BTFO
color me surprised

>>53929771
What was your list?

>>53929933
He's just that shit. Also Maces of Redemption are basically thunder hammers with 1 worse AP that strike with no hit modifier. So yes, Kharn is a CC glass cannon now.

>>53928779
Would you rather he be putting his dick into an unsuspecting Ork Warboss?

>>53929918
>using stormsurge ever
kys

>>53929918
It likely would not be cheesey to do so. How big is your overall force? At-present Riptides are actually a little overcosted if anything, so your opponent shouldn't have reason to complain. Stormsurge is a good deal but not a fantastic one.

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>>53929935
>not having holy anointed body oil

>>53929961
The full squad of DW knights ended up wrecking his 8 man Berzerker squad and that was before Belial and the Apothecary joined the fight. By the end of the game the only units he had left on the board were 2 Rhinos. He still won though because Maelstrom is gay.

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>>53929936

>>53929922

Your chapter's initiation ritual should be you get handed a suit of scout armour and a Chainsword and if you survive the mission you get poured into a dreadnought.

>>53929906

Good points, but I disagree about Kharn's ability being worthless. Even if the opponent does use the command points to counter, I think in a real game situation having enough strong counter units about to hit Kharn is something a good player can avoid with good positioning of who ever's babysitting Kharn, but also even if you force them to use it on Kharn, that's another unit which is safe. It's like saying a rhino is worthless because it can be killed with AT, well yes that's the way the game works . But the game is also about resources, and Kharn's ability forcing your opponent to commit resources in itself if a success, even if I personal think your fear over it is overblown.

>>53928695

Has the dark mechanicus went too far?

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>>53929914
Sounds like a lot of fun, I was a bit sceptical about the Mork n Gorka nauts myself, however being big and stompy is really helpful in the tie-up vehicles edition. (Not that 12-18 attacks in melee is easy to tie up).

>>53930006
Sounds good to me

Finished CWEldar damage calculations last night, aiming to do their cost calculations today.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

Thinking of doing either vanilla CSM or Necrons after them, though I'll be busy for several days before I can start on whatever my next project is.

>>53929918
hey Shas'O what's your Sept

>>53930045
Wu Tang Clan

>>53929767
How good daemon engines are in relation to one another. Specifically ones that fill the same niche.

>>53930006
> if you survive the mission you get poured into a dreadnought.
fucking kek

>>53930066
FAQ'D

>>53929918
That's how I field my Tau. A handful of big robots with a lot of smaller dudes. Combined arms style.

>>53929964
A knight, some dreads, a flyer, some preds, some scouts and some marines both in transports.

Funny enough, my first game of 8th before the blob meme spread, the same list got stuffed by someone who bothered to bring lascannons.

Kauyon and montka both seem underwhelming as fuck.

>>53929782
>where are you even getting models
I have a job to get the new stuff I need and I had a fair number of models from an old 3rd Ed. WH army. For example, I already had 5 Heavy Bolter Rets and just went out and tracked down a few more.

>>53930038

Crons should be somewhat fast

>>53928661
I hate having uniques in my list.
I'm playing My dudes. Why the fuck would Ahriman or Roboute be hanging with My dudes?

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>>53928635
>Sister, you nearly trampled these Emperor's Blossoms
>I saved them this time so you get off with a warning but next time it'll be your blood on this armor.

>>53930127
I'm sure Your Dudes are so special and unique, sweetie.

>>53930116
That's my thought as well. Relatively few weapon options per unit, and relative lack of annoying special rules that require me repeatedly editing the formula are big helps. I ended up changing the formula on the CWEldar page-wide to accomodate the Shuriken's alternate AP on 6's to-wound so I didn't have to manually enter that every time it came up.

>>53928956
Raging faggot

>>53930001
>charging two-wound 3++ models with only 8 berzerkers
That was his problem. Even 10 only kill two on average, Kharn is worthless so he should have charged with a second squad instead.

>>53930008
You don't get it, do you? Kharn is about as expensive as a 10-man berzerker squad with less damage output and durability. You are literally wasting points on an HQ with no significant buffs that can be very easily neutralized just by spending two command points, while such a tactic does not work on Zhufor or hell, on most melee characters because they get their full firepower in one round, while ALSO having significantly better durability, actual buffs, and not hitting your fucking troops on 1s.

>>53930127
You file the names off and use counts-as.

Yarrick is a fuckboy, this is Commisar Aldir who carries a sword he took from a daemon that whispers to him in his sleep. Fuck it.

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Are death guard any good?

>>53930159
Yes

>>53930159
Yes.

>>53930150
butthurt shill

>>53930153
To be fair he did quite a number on some of my guys because of that double fight phase thing. While drowning them in wounds certainly was moderately effective it wasn't effective enough to stop him from losing his warlord turn 3.

>>53930172
Sexy beast

>>53930159
No.

Slow and low damage in return for 1t and a shitty FNP.

>>53929037
anon posted his excitement for a product, trolls tear him down for being a fan... what reckless faggotry is this

>>53929989
Why?
>>53929992
Mostly Fire Warriors and Pathfinders
4 broadsides for some reason I can't remember
And a few battlesuits
1 Devilfish
>>53930045
I had my own Olive Drab armor, orange cloth and markings with aggrax earthshade shaded metalic for parts usually painted black (like burst canon barrels or fusion gun tips)
>>53930088
Pretty much

>>53929101
While an amazing box, was to 50 buck kits 2 special models and paper terrain. Loved the box, loved the game. not near as good as this

>>53930153

I get that you're obsessed with hating Kharn, he's not amazing no, but he's not the complete turd you seem to think he is. But whatever, dont take him if you dont want to, just stop being such a little bitch about it

>>53930159
Yes, T5 is actually really amazing

>>53929935
If you were the emperor and you were creating a race of superhumans, wouldnt you make them A E S T H E T I C too?

They are supposed to represent the best that humanity is capable of achieving, and beauty is a concept older than conscious thought.

>>53929165
Also sweet palm trees

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Repost from previous thread:
Attempting a Fallen themed army based around the HH boxed sets plus a couple of forge world bits

Is it completely terrible?

The cultists and lack of vehicles are for fluff reasons, I may incorporate a knight later on.
From a fluff perspective this is meant to be a stormwing team that wound up on a knight world

I've taken a lot of plasma to take advantage of the Fallen rules but feel like melta would be fluffier

>>53929726
as opposed to the kharn that we've had for decades? cuz he's been super easy to kill as well

>>53930253
Looks gay ass hell.

So has anyone actually managed to get Fulgurites or Corpuscarii to do anything in a game? How did the invuln/FnP work out?

I kind of want to get a big blob of rave priests and just march forward with them.

>>53930201
>Olive Drab armor, orange cloth and markings with aggrax earthshade shaded metalic

what's the name of the Sept ?
for me i use Vior'la with the grey blue of the SW
i wanted to do a snow Cadre

>>53930155
I'm actually cool with it. I like the idea of my random captain not being the strongest or most diehard dude in the galaxy.
He ain't. He's Guy, destroyer of Some Dudes. Then he dies like a chump to a lascannon.

Or.. I guess... did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOYyZRz6S8g

conscript spam OP confirmed

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What do you think of my homebrew SM Chapter scheme? The only thing I couldn't add is that they would have lots of writing covering the arms, legs, and shoulder pads. I plan on doing it with a Micron pen.

What rules do I use if I field Asterion Moloc in GW matches?

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>>53930103

Thanks for letting us know you're full of shit, by posting a list of some of the worst possible units to take on hordes.

>>53930218
>i ran out of arguments so you are obsessed and a little bitch
Whatever faggot

>>53930285
You'll do better this edition then, since deathstars are no longer going to be nearly as viable.

>>53930285
rip guy. Never again will you get nailed by a vindicator and instagibbed along with your retinue.

>>53929839
>>53930001
I don't see the problem with 600 points worth of melee combat units beating 309 points worth of combat units.

So why does Asterion moloc have a guardian spear?

Why is he not mentioned in recent fluff?

>>53930201
>I had my own

Read the faqs. The intent is ypu are supposed to choose official sanctioned Septs to trigger off keywords, retard.

>>53929911
It no tzeentch

>>53930296
it's something. I'm more concerned about freehand writings. I've almost never seen those be good. Especially text on a green background.

Just how many Death Guard from the siege of Terra survived? I want to paint my dark imperium DG in the OG colour scheme

>>53930259
He's even weaker now due to no deny on 2+. Why the fuck GeeDubs took that away and gave it nerfed to Zhufor is a mistery to me. He also has a much worse damage output and his abilities were ported terribly to 8th.

>>53928635
is the wazbom blasta jet good

i want one

>>53930270
Don't mind it being gay, so long as it's effective.

>>53930201
>why?
The Stormsurge represents everything that was wrong with 7e. Stupid rules, horrific model, and for some reason it's not a vehicle.

>>53930280
>>53930359
I have no idea I haven't red the new Index thing.
I guess orange markings are Sacea if I don't remember wrong?

>>53928635
his head ruins the whole picture
that haircut + overly young lookin face is so out of place in a 40k artwork

>>53930001
>because maelstrom is gay
got out played aaand you think it's gay. sure kid. why don't you take your ball and go home

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So this is my first list ever made I have never played the game before and it's not meant to be competitive, as a matter of fact I don't even own all those models. Any thoughts on it?

>>53930396
i think it has potential to be a good character sniper (but only for as long as your opponent doesnt know how to protect their characters)

>>53930419
true, everyone in official 40k art has to be helmeted or tragically british in appearance, and also yelling

What's the cheapest Imperium HQ other than the 30 point Company Commander? Is it the 40 Primaris Psyker?

>>53930402
Well this isnt 7th edition any more so who gives a shit about that

>>53930405
correct ! but there are no heroes for Sa'cea in the index
in Vior'la we only have Aun'shi and thats all
meanwhile T'au get Darkstrider, Aun'va and Shadowsun

fuck this gay earth

>>53930433
It is gay tho. Fucking random ass constantly changing tactical objectives make it pretty difficult for a force designed to wipe out as many units as possible to win. In fact with all the objective hunting it essentially forces you to field high mobility units over slow ones.

>>53930371
I've done it on other models, usually since the scale would be too small to read anyway, it looks like scribbles

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Anyone have any idea on what I should play the unit of Damned Legionnaires as?

I want to use them for reasons, but I'm not sure. Melta + multimelta delivery since they deep strike?

>>53930402
We're not in 7e anymore. Stormsurge is perfectly fine in 8e.

>>53930402
>Stupid rules,
Well it's a new edition now so what's it matter?
>horrific model,
Subjective. I like it.
>and for some reason it's not a vehicle.
I thought everything had wounds, saves and no armor values?

>>53930001
>He still won though because Maelstrom is gay.
O U T P L A Y E D

GIT GUD SCRUB

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>>53930343

>So why does Asterion moloc have a guardian spear?
Suspected he's a Custodian.

>Why is he not mentioned in recent fluff?
Probably because he's from FW.

>>53930298

Anyone? I haven't gotten a chance to look through the rulebook yet.

>>53930218
This guy knows what's up, fuck that other guy, his raging hard on for hating kharn is just, wow

>>53930463
make own heroic personage, field with stats of named hero. shazam.

>>53930473
post pic. if you are really good at freehand then maybe, if not no.

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yes or no

also does anyone have the primarius marine color scheme painter?

So uh, is there an online digital army painter for a Primaris Marine, I got some paint schemes I want to test out.

>>53930471
>make it pretty difficult for a force designed to wipe out as many units as possible to win.
Perhaps the point is to make sure you don't spam high powered units nonstop?

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>>53930402
>Not a vehicle

>>53930471
>Waaah I don't autowin with my immobile as fuck inflexible army only designed to win killpoint missions waaaah
>People playing the mission instead of playing team deathmatch are gay waaaah

top kek

>>53930359
the intent isn't to choose official sanction options but to be able to create "your dudes", the faq just said hey motherfuckers stop trying to do wutang or fly shenanigans. dicks

>>53930510
>>53930513

Fucking weird. We asked the same question seconds apart.

>>53930495
i'm not sure if it's authorized

>>53929424
Daemonengines are pretty dope for melee this edition, sadly no good shooty engines. Decimater and korne bloodslaughter ticks rock the melee phase though.

>>53930471
>game is about playing objectives
>play to kill opponent instead because NO ITEMS FOX ONLY FINAL DESTINATION
>whine when i dont win because i played the game wrong

wew

>>53930471
Sooo you made a list focused on removing the other guy from the table and not playing the game.
Some how this is the game fault

Other guy makes a list focused on playing the game and won.

Hmmmmm wonder why it happen?!

>>53930526
You're trying to tell me that it's possible to build a mobile list using Deathwing? Seriously?
And I'm not asking to autowin, I'm asking for the playing ground to be a bit more level. Anything that requires objective chasinh clearly favors high movement armies over low ones.

>>53930463
Can't I just say I'm using wichever sept I want before the match?
I thought that's what people did with successor chapters for space marines when they got those rules.

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>>53930510
>>53930513
Don't know about a proper interactive thingy, but here's the MS paint fill-tool-friendly image.

>>53930565
Needed to hold more Termie Squads in reserve for objective DSing later

>>53930312
Honestly, tell that to my lgs.
Most of my stuff is assault cannons, so I can chew through hordes fairly well, and the knight can easily kill 20+ infantry a turn.
That said, I haven't tabled anyone, and I usually win on objectives because they can't get past my mech.

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>>53930533
yeah it's hard thinking of a color scheme isn't it kek

>>53930402
7e is dead as of last Weekend

We're on 8th now

>>53930337
Eh. Deathstars encouraged mix n' match. Now 8th has plenty of that anyway.
I'd prefer the super-tight alliance allowances of earlier eds, means you actually have to play to your army's strengths and weaknesses rather than fielding a bunch of allies/forgeworld to fill them.

>>53930510
If you people keep up with this stupid laurels idea then I will personally delete every single source of Roman history.

Vulcan Lives!

Where can I find this "Tau sept' Faq to see what they do?

>>53930159
Death Guard play well currently if you take vehicle support or ally in some daemons.

Having no termies is a bummer though, badass Typhus is lacking deepstrike buddies.

>>53930588
A bit hard to do that when you're only fielding a total of 17 models.

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>>53930436
that is a coolass list
id love to play with or against that

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what's the list of stuff confirmed for the next month?
> grav tank
> Primaris dread
> Primaris captains
> mortarion
> DG Termies
> plague guard.

These are the confirmed with photo stuff, what else?

>>53930589

>Most of my stuff is assault cannons, so I can chew through hordes fairly well, and the knight can easily kill 20+ infantry a turn.

lol tell that to basic math

>>53930640
Yees mon. Now com heyarr for a huug.

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So I've got three luverly armoured sentinels w/ autocannons.

Now that 8th has dropped, to prevent BS: Ork, I'm thinking of swapping to scout sentinels with heavy flamers.

Thoughts, Tg? Too close?

>>53930664
whats mortarions photo

cant decide between dark eldar or eldar

>>53930692
The leaked images from a few months back.

>>53930490
>Suspected he's a Custodian.
This didn't make sense before until FW came out with Tribunes and then you find out that Moloc has a Adrasti Paragon Spear.
He does have rules, they were posted in these threads a little while ago.

>>53930664
Land raider Guilliman

>>53930568
No. There were people that tried doing that, but it was heavily frowned upon.

Generally your army's Chapter/sept/hive fleet/whatever name has to be written down on your armylist.

>>53930644
Right now they all just increase the level of gay of the owner by 35%

>>53930709
That numbers are sooo low

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>Want to get my Orks painted finally
>Was going to paint multiple Klans, with majority looking like pic related
>Now they are going to have unique rules per Klan
>Might not even be able to mix them

I just want to know what the individual rules will be....

How pissed would I make people if I made a space marine chapter that had fallen to the influence of the tau ethereals and had begun to believe in/fight for the greater good? Have tau empire insignia on the shoulder pads, everything. Too far?

>>53930696
Which gets your panties wetter?

>>53930298
Terminator Captain with relic blade.

Or do the sensible thing and wait for FW rules because there's no stats for generic chapter masters yet.

Any scans or downloads for the Imperial armour index? Specifically the chaos one

>>53930709
Yeah but like if you make your list knowing what characters you're going to use just say it's that sept that the character is from?

>>53930686
Is your sentinel feeling okay

>>53930670
Ok

>>53930743
lesbian teens

Question: For a Battle Forged Army I can just pick only Auxiliary detachments, correct? I don't have to pick a "proper" one?

>>53930770
The "girl next door" kind or the combative, "alternative" kind?

>>53930705

>He does have rules, they were posted in these threads a little while ago.

I'll backtrack a few threads and a keep an eye out. Also, haven't read the fluff update from FW yet.

>Or do the sensible thing and wait for FW rules because there's no stats for generic chapter masters yet.

Okay, cool sounds like a plan but these rules can be applied to GW matches as well right?

Any one else finds odd that a tank, monster, regular dude and super human in power armour have the same penalty when shooting a heavy weapon?

>>53930736
>You already know what the Klans are known for
>Not hard to imagine the rules will follow that

Only issue is Bad Moonz. I thought they had a lot of flash gitz but Gitz are now full merc.
Also lootaz might be better as moonz rather than grimskullz

>>53930436
Definitely agree that it looks cool, I'm really excited to see how good shrikes are this edition.

>>53930662

What is the difference between 7th and 8th

>>53930799
no. there's nothing about consistent rules.

>>53930798
>Okay, cool sounds like a plan but these rules can be applied to GW matches as well right?

With your opponent's permission :^)

>>53930799
Empty power armor shells don't :)

>>53930770
>Didn't say "L-Lewd!"
Hai, Deldar hajimateru

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Rate my army fa/tg/uys

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>>53930692
This teaser image.

>>53930799
It's probably more about the moving-while-shooting now in general than the shooting-while-encumbered.

I mean, no matter how stable the platform is, it's just harder to target something while you're moving fast unless you have a sophisticated targeting computer. Which I think Tau and Eldar can get(?)

>>53930825
>Consistent
>Beige

Good to know people are warming up to eighth of shitmar

>>53930847
So is this the 40k edition of The Expendables?

>>53930852
>Obvious traitor melee weapon

That can only be one person

Lion 'El Johnson

>>53930847
Reads like a list of Foxhound members

>>53930809
Bad Moons have always been the "techie" Ork klan, haven't they? Meks and toys and krazy inventions and tellyportas and stuff like that? Maybe they'll get something similar. Cyborks and stuff.

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things you love about Dark Vengeance

I'll start.

> the taped double-mag on one of the DG

>>53929660
>>53928808

A FUKIN WARRIOR-MONK, that live to kill enemies of his god.
A FUKIN WARRIOR-NUN, that live to kill enemies of her god.
>seek affection
>flowers
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!
Yes it is, and you suck coks.

>>53930864
beige?

>>53930852
Nice Tyrannid spoiler

>Mortarion
Literally who? Some kind of Magic player?

>>53930847
I don't think the Eversors alone will be enough to kill all the light infantry you're likely to see, while the 4*Culexus might be a bit overkill for anything but GK/Tzeentch opponents.

>>53930847
Should take a single conscript squad to hide everyone

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Threw together a list of Harlequins I have laying around, either built or on sprue.In total, I have 5 boxes of Troupes, 10 of which are built with Kisses. The only malleable things here are 1 of the Troupe Masters, 10 of the stock Troupe dudes, and the Voidweaver.

C&C?

>>53930847
While diverging from the theme, I'm thinking a unit of really TOUGH bastards (2+ ogryns or something) would be hilarious to take. Everything else is a character, so most everything HAS to shoot at the one non-character unit.

>>53930686
why are they modeled falling over?

>>53930662
>>53930818

Thanks, I was not sure if I´d get all the shit for not being min/maxed or what not. I am still learning the rules but I thought about this list while building the SC box (which is what I have so far).
The list caps at 57 power which I have no idea if is good or bad
Also Shrikes are basically flying warriors right?

>>53930847
I'd drop some Culexus's for more of the other 3.

>>53930862
Anon stable shooting is WWII era tech for tanks, nothing spectacular compared to moder tanks but it is something

>>53930474
help me please. I haven't played 40k over a decade and I don't know what's good.

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>>53930795
nasty one, kind of a cute slaaneshi bitch

pic related

>>53930886
>dark vengeance
>DG
?????????

>>53930906
That is a fantastic idea

anybody venerate the immortal Emperor lately?

>>53930823
thats pretty irrelevant since everyone will be playing 8th ed now and the rules have like 12 pages (and are on the gw website), so why dont u just take an hour to read and think and figure it out yourself

>>53930929
Sheeeeeit

>>53928834
Long fangs

>>53930927
Do you even need to ask, then?

>>53930923
Most things. It's a lot harder to fuck up and build an auto-lose list now as there's very few trap options. Just remember to favour infantry over vehicles if you're uncertain, and play for objectives.

>>53930945

That wasn't a question.

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>>53930686
>mfw I recognize that sentinel from ebay

>>53928868
You could make me a very happy anon

>>53930880
needs an charismatic leader though

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Does anybody think its possible to speed paint or dip the Adeptus Mechanicus?

>>53930945
Those twelve pages are only like 1/3rd of the pages you need for matched play.

But they are a decent teaser to get an idea about how 8th edition works.

>>53928923
All startes have micropenis

So I am reading the rules, it says:
>To include a particular Detachment in your army, simply organise some or all of your units so that they fit within the restrictions and limitations detailed for that particular Detachment.

And then each detachment has:
>Restrictions: All units must be from the same Faction.

But I can't find anywhere that says I can't take two detachments that are of different factions. The faction restriction only applies to the detachment, not the army at whole.

Does this mean I could just use Auxiliary detachments to add any unit I want, or have two detachments of different factions?

>>53930990
Nope. Admech is only for people who put in time and effort to their painting. If you aren't one of them then the Omnissiah does not want you.

>>53930945
Yeah. People should stop looking for differences and jus ttreat 8th as a whole new game and just re-learn the rules.

Comparing "differences" is how you get shit like "do I still get +1A for 2ccw/charging/etc", "where do i find initiative", and "I don't have enough troops to fill out force org slots".

>>53930990
If you want to dip it's Tau or Tyranids for you. Or all Helmeted Spess Mahrines.

>>53930990
>basecoat gunmetal
>basecoat cloth
>dip in wash
>gem paint eyes and lenses
>go back in time to paint technic paints on the base first

It wont look very good, but you could.

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>>53930964
but i answered it anyway so
PAY UP OR GET SMASHED, HUMIE

What's the best weapon for a single Onager?

>>53931009
you need two separate detachments

>>53931009
>Does this mean I could just use Auxiliary detachments to add any unit I want, or have two detachments of different factions?

That's my understanding. You can make a detachment with Primaris Marines and another with Heretic Astartes and a third one with Orks and the army would be legal, as long as each detachment only has units that share at least one faction keyword.

>>53931010
I kinda wish my first set was Admech, It would have forced me to get good at painting faster. Im quite satisfied with what I have right now as far as my painting goes on my Necrons, but I feel Admech would have forced me into better quality.

>>53931037
Neutron laser obviously

>>53930990
No, admech are too detailed. You really need to put effort into painting them to avoid thme looking like complete trash, same with harlequins.

>>53930686
I'm thinking of sticking with multilasers for this ed, although now that they're cheaper and I can fire safely, tempted by plasma cannons. But I use Sentinels as shooty back-area patrollers. (-1 to hit while moving does suck though).

>>53931037
depends on what your army lacks.
Tell us about it and we may help you decide

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the raven guard look pretty cool

>>53929663
rules where?

>>53930664
>DG Termies

But DG can't have terminators.

>>53931039
Yeah that's what I am asking, there is no restriction on factions BETWEEN detachments, right?

Like, there was someone earlier crying about wanting to take a Vindicare Assassin with his Tau, that's perfectly legal, right?

>>53931074
The lord and Typhus beg to differ.

>>53931036

Kek, fair enough

>>53931071
yeah they do
>>53931075
that would be unfluffy, but i think it would be legal if the vindicare assassin is in a different detachment

>>53931075
if you're using matched play rules, no it is not

>>53931073
bump

>>53931073
Imperial Armour Index scans where?

>>53931098
Ah, found it. Page 214.

So, legal for regular games, not matched play.

>>53931105
but its only chaos/space marine

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what do you guys think the reason for Hive Fleet Hydra is team killing Leviathan?

>>53931098
I wonder are there actually any units that are UNALIGNED yet?

>>53931047
you would have done a shit job and been disappointed

crons are probably the best set to start painting with overall, next to SM

Is it not kinda unfair that "Imperium" has a billion allies, "chaos" and "eldar" have like a million each but "Tau" have none, "Necrons" have none ect?

>>53930918
i think its a very good in-your-face style list, prepare to get called waac since people are used to stomp nids all day long without effort, also prepare to be very smug while you shout about your army blotting out the sun (call your tyrant Xerxes to make it perfect)

yeah shrikes are flying warriors that dont suck (but nobody took them cause of instant death in previous eds)

>>53931075
You must select a faction when making your army, every unit must share the army faction even across detachments. Eg: Imperium.

>>53931132
"genetically engineered super predators"

>>53931134
buildings

>>53931128

I KNOW I WANT CHAOS!

>>53931142
That's what you get for being a filthy Xenos.

>>53931134
Just Fortifications right now.

I'm wishing for a Merc list, like the old Dogs of War for WFB.

Requesting shitty edit of muscle wizard pic, with Magnus going "i cast BLADE" and Knight exploding in background.

>>53931142
Sorry NPC, better luck next time.

>>53931147
Only for matched play, there is no such restriction in just Battle Forged armies.

>>53930799
Some units have special rules that ignore the penalty

>>53931160
>stop liking different things
sometime i have to imagine how it must feel to be an entitled marine baby

>>53931132
The goal of Hive Fleet Hydra most likely is to gather and combine all the additional genetic data the different Hive Fleets gathered whilst fighting this galaxy's races, which results in even stronger and better adapted Tyranids.

>>53931051
I'll check it out.
>>53931068
It's a small team game; I'm bringing a techpriest, 2 10-man vanguard units with the omnispex and plasma guns, and the Onager.

My teammate is bringing his space marines, including Asterion Moloc and his melee friends.

>>53931134
What is of mild interest to me is the fallen, which is a CSM model with the IMPERIUM faction keyword. They look like they could be good models. They are space marines but the whole squad can take heavy weapons and/or combi weapons (in a specific combination), and I really like the new combi rules.

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>>53931074
Hints they will

>>53931194
>when everyone else calls you an npc so they must be marinefags
Top kek, eat shit irrelevant faction

>>53931132

The drones look photoshopped in afterwards as an afterthought

>>53931194
DEUS VULT

>>53931187
>playing anything other than matched

>>53930799
No, the 40k rules are highly abstract. And the new system is way better than the old vehicle firing restrictions. If being a stable weapons platform is important to the identity of a model it can and usually does have a rule to address it.

>>53930798
FW rules and units are 100% legal for all matches