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MtG Hours of Devastation 21/06 Spoilers

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Hostile Desert
Land - Desert

T: Add C to your mana pool
1, Exile a land card from your graveyard: ~ becomes a 3/4 elemental creature until end of turn. It is still land.
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>>53925383
>It's become a running joke in our playgroup that if you choose me for a fact or fiction I'll put all the cards in 1 pile.
>Someone is going to build this thing at some point and chose me everytime.
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>>53925402

G/B getting more good tools again. . . I mean, its a nice card, I can see it being playable for sure. Would be nice if R/U got something nice...

T.salty red player.
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>>53925402
GB aggro? 1 trop, 2 drop, 3 drop, play both sides T4, get cards nuke opponents hand?
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What will God-Pharaoh's Gift do?
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>>53925402
What's that? Another card that shows that the Locust God should have been G?
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>>53925839

Thinking it would eternalize all creatures in your graveyard? Might be good who knows
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>>53925839
Gain two life a turn.
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>>53925839
Well, given that we know the trials are all about making shiny blue zombies, I'd imagine it'll be an aura that makes them into one of them- gives buff to creature, probably gives it afflict. Its dead, so maybe possible reanimation as well?

3RBG, aura enchantment. Return target creature from a graveyard to play with GPG attached to it, enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and gains afflict 3.
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>>53925879
3RBU*
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>>53925839

Judging by Dark Intimations, nothing relevant.
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>>53925402
My friend is super salty he can't run this in his RG EDH deck
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>>53925839
>there won't be a god pharoah's gift because bolas just made it all up anyway
I doubt it, but it'd get a slow clap out of me
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>>53926001
I would like that.
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>>53926001
They don't have the balls to do that.
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>>53925383
Well looks like sphinx tribal is a thing, because there's like 21 sphinxes that I can see people play in commander with this guy as the general
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>>53925383
>Not Esper

ONE JOB
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>>53925394
That's neat, but the land exile cost is rough.
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>>53926225
For limited and Standard, sure. This can be playable in Modern and Legacy thanks to fetches.
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>>53925402
This is really good, especially for an Aftermath card.

I was totally expecting the other part to be way overcosted but to my surprise it wasn't.
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>>53925849
Haste tokens are Red.
Flying tokens are Blue.
Shit triggering on draw is Blue.
Looting is Blue or Blue/Red.
Locust God is a perfectly Blue/Red design. The fact that the tokens are insects is completely irrelevant, just like the fact that embalm's zombies are white.
>>53926204
There's already esper sphinxes if you want esper sphinxes, and an azorius sphinx that searches for flying creatures (which thus grabs all sphinxes) if you want to drop the black.
This is for monoblue sphinxes, and can also be run in esper sphinxes in the main deck
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>>53926301
The red justifications are weak
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>>53926165
I've played sphinx tribal. This guy's effect is awesome, but since he's mono-blue it means no access to the best sphinxes. Sure you get Consecrated, Sphinx of Untu (or whatever the Show and Tell sphinx is called), Windreader, and Sphinx Ambassador for funzies, but you don't get Sharuum, Magister, Enigma, Summoner, either of the Azorious legend, or Medomai.

>>53926204
This guy gets it.
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>>53925394
> 1, Exile a land card from your graveyard: ~ becomes a 3/4 elemental creature until end of turn. It is still land.
>Clearly says 2
What did he mean by this. I seriously don't think this card is very good. If you have to use 2 to turn it into a creature you probably aren't activating it until turn 3, at which point you could have similar strength creatures out anyway.
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>>53926359
It's far more red than it is green. All I've been hearing in favor of green is 'insects'
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Cool design, but feels to weak
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>>53926417
Nice. A 3/3 Flying Vigilance for 4 is nothing to sneeze at and the abilities play well with vigilance. 8/10 would draft.
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>>53926456
Yup, it's also repeatable O-ring or a decent beater as it can exile anything that could block it.
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>>53926417
10/10 EDH card, also seems bonkers in limited.
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>>53926380
This is what kinda makes me sad. Unesh has a pretty good sphinx pay off and cost reduction is always swell but being mono blue really sucks for sphinxes.
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>>53925383
Pretty awesome desu.
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>>53926380
But do you really play Sharuum the Hegemon or do you just play an esper commander and have it be a secret sphinx tribal deck?

or just use mono blue to your advantage and run caged sun, gauntlet of power and some other cards that reward you for playing one color so you can play your sphinxes sooner even though you don't have the best sphinxes on the market?
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>MEEEEEEH
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>>53926570
I played Sharuum sphinx tribal. Aside from Enigma Sphinx all the Esper sphinxes benefited from Sharuum's ETB. Also good EDH players see Sharuum as a threat, so it's funny so see their reactions when they're told/realize it's a tribal deck.
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>>53926590
THIS SET SUCKS
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>>53926590
>forgive me padre for i have sinned
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>>53926590
Cool flavor tho.
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>>53926590
>possible (albeit slim) 4 for 1
>can get rid of anything without hexproof for 4 mana
>instant speed

But then again if pic related didn't exist I would have to disagree but it's one mana less, has a clause that may or may not happen most of the time (unless jund gods become a thing) and suddenly it's a rare
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>>53926590
>Poor Little Snake Boi
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>>53926590
>black getting more unconditional exile.
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>>53926590
>It's time.
>For what?
>Hot scorpion dick.
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>>53926590
NOOO RHONAS, You can take him! You have indestructible!

I would really like to see a god come back as an eternal. Either Rhonas or Bontu.
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>>53926590
B A R A G O D S
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>>53926590
Scorpion God is buff as fuck. mirin
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>>53925839
for fucks sake, would it kill WOTC to let us just draw a card than this draw discard bullshit, I fucking hate looting
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>>53926622
But being able to FoF every time an undercosted sphinx comes into play seems WAY too good to pass up to not have Unesh be the commander. I mean I'm sad that he isn't esper as well (or even at least azorius) but that doesn't mean it's absolute trash, right?
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>>53926417
dies to bolt
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>>53926674
That was my thought.
It should either be 1BB or 3B but work as Infinite Obliteration, searching everywhere.
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>>53926590
"want a backrub?"
"INAPPROPRIATE TOUCHING IN THE WORKPLACE!"
"Im not hearing a no ;)"
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>>53926757
Don't you mean "Open Fire"
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>>53926590
I'd give a shit about this card more if Ixalan didn't have Vraska's contempt.
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>>53926788
I would laugh but even then you're still one mana up, standard sucks.
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>>53925383
Sure, give us a motherfucking Sphynx tribal lord before Beast, Insects, or whatever other tribe that would be more relevant. Jesus fucking Christ.
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Actually, not bad. Reasonable flier for black that turns into a doom blade.

That's not only very efficient, but also protects bolas when he enters the field. Ofc, you HAVE to build around Bolas.
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>>53926417
Neat. Probably too vulnerable at x/3 for Modern, but would draft and will EDH.

I'm just hoping for cool sphinxes, preferably ones with art as good as Serra's.
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>>53926853
I do like how this is good of all 3 :/ bolas planeswalkers.
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>>53926841
Yeah, I'm still waiting for a squirrel lord that is actually a squirrel.
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>>53926853
I'm not sure that's such a bad downside though, I mean think about it if they want to not have their shit blow up the moment you slap down bolas they've gotta waste their removal on a 2/1 flier or use it on your better threats and risk you being able to get back at them for it. then again you can only have 4 copies of bolas out of the 60 so if wizards really wants this to work-

wait. wait wait. Is this spoiled as an actual card or is it from the precon. this seems like a precon card now that i think about it.
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>>53926925
Precon card.

Also, I really like the art for the precon woodland stream.
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>>53926896
Yeah, the uncommon creatures are about the best thing about the Planeswalker intros because they all can be used with any version of the walker.

The intro rares should be like that too. They are never too good so mostly no worries about them being broken and planeswalker type tutors are a cool and interesting effect that should be explored, only they keep themselves constrained by narrowing it down to the one shitty walker.

If only they worked that way, the walker intros would be prime kitchentable material.
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>>53926590
>>53926590
Two more Hours to go.
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>>53926925
It is NOT a downside at all, man. It's pretty damn great in every front.

And in a deck focused on having Bolas as your wincon you'll find a way to ALWAYS make the ability relevant. Tron does it with Karn and you've got 3 Bolas cards vs 1 Karn / 1 Ugin.

... Maybe I should build Bolas Tron...
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>>53925428
We had a player like that in my old playgroup. It got to the point where we would target him even if he wasn't playing
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>>53926965
Searching for any Chandra or any Gideon would be way to good.
The point of the planeswalker decks is so casuals don't have to pay more than MSRP, not buy a $50 precon thinking its a good investment only to learn that two cards are worth $10 because someone got top 8 with them in the sideboard.
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>>53926417
Ok, we've got a big white guy that flickers creatures AND orings them now. I wonder what novel design space white will explore in Ixilan?
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>>53926301
>The fact that the tokens are insects is completely irrelevant, just like the fact that embalm's zombies are white.
You can't cite the same block you're defending as a precedent. Just because Wizards is playing fast and loose with creatures doesn't justify anything.
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>>53926853
I don't understand, I thought insects were red this block?
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>>53926853
solid pick in limited regardless if you get bolas or not
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>>53927120
>limited
>ONLY in the planeswalker decks
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>>53926970
There's obviously going to be "Hour of devastation" as the last one to complete the cycle.

I'd bet that Promise is G, Eternity is U and Devastation is R
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>>53927089
I eould have definitely gone gb given no other context for locusts, but i can see red for locusts if we think of them as consuming with no regard to the natural order. Green eats but it only eats what it "should" so that harmony ia maintained. But we can assume the locust gods locusts are not that considerate, and are only concerned with instinctual consumption until theres nothing left. This also makes it distinct from black where black consumes without regard, but for personal benefit. Since the locusts are wiped animals, they dont do it to "benefit" in the same way black thinks of it.

Its grasping a bit but if I really had to i could see it. I think its less blue than anything else. Flavorfully its pretty much just blue because it flies and needed to be in bolas colors. Also blue seems to have an association with the Hekma for some reason?
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>>53927103
There was one insect last set and it was black. They also got this rad enchantment.
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>>53926590
This art is hilariously bad.
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>>53927212
Well the Scarab God WILL be UB, and will probably be related to creatures entering the battlefield and putting -1/-1 counters on things
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>>53927194
>green only eats what it should
If you're only looking at the good side of green. And ignoring the fact that pairing it with other colors also changes its characteristics.
Also you're falling into the WOTC trap of thinking that red = mindless. You just don't have a nuanced view of the color pie at all.
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>>53927235
Key word hilarious. The art is funny as shit.
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Now that Rhonas is dead I hope he is reborn in the desert or some shit.
I also hope for the same with oketra so that there are 5 gods in the set and it could fit together with all the nagas in the desert stuff
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>>53926590
Imagine if they included a female god getting the backrub
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>>53926590
SURPRISE BUTTSECKS
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>>53927241
Explaining that lpcusts could be red because they are mindless is not saying thst red is always mindless, how the fuck do you figure that.

Also green NEVER overconsumes, at least not by itself. That is literally antithesis to green. Overconsumption throws off the natural balance. Green is characterized in one way by eating a lot, but its not about consuming TOO much. The characterization would be that green does nothing BUT eat.
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>>53927135
I didn't know it was only in the PW deck until now
Still it's a neat card
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>>53926590
RHONAS RAPE
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Scry 3

//

Aftermath

Look at the top card of your library. If it’s a creature card, you may reveal it and put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put that card into your hand.
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>>53927212
there was atleast 3 insects, one black, one green and one black/green
Also the tokens of course
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>>53927368
Sorcery or instant?
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>>53927390
Both sides are sorcery speed.
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>>53927237
Scarab God will probably be around token generation I imagine, that's all we're missing
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>>53927405
wew. Scry should have been instant.
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>>53927390
Sorcery both halves. I thought it was neat until I noticed the scry half was sorcery.
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>>53927408
The UR god generates tokens
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>>53927408
What?
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>>53927390
So sorry kek
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>>53926590
Can we get an edit of this with rhonas scooched just a little closer to the scorpion god? Please?
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>>53926225
This shit is more than playable in legacy and modern, you have more than enough fetches to feed it when you need to, hell even popped Wastelands and similar feed it.
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>>53926590
Why you gotta tease me bro, lemme go already.
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>Bolas makes male angels and bara gods
Is wizards finally giving us the homosexual dragonkin we've always needed? Its 2017 people!
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>>53926970
Based on today's story article, the Hour of Promise will be a U/R card to represent Locust God destroying the Hekma, while the Hour of Eternity will be the worthy dead resurrecting as Eternals.
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>>53927235
I guess they pussied out and didn't want to depict Rhonas getting a stinger through his skull.
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>>53927617
Instead they showed him getting the shit spooked out of him by a surprise hand on the shoulder.
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>>53927577
>the homo is evil
I hope not!
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>>53927577
Nah, the angels, gods and not!Necrons are all his dick extensions, big dudes for a big ego.
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>>53927577
>has mebtally raped 3 pws
>all male
Uh...
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>>53926757
can I respond to your bolt by activivating is first ability and save him for a turn?
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>>53927723
>another target creature
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>>53926590
Horrible compared to Deicide...
Oh wait.
>enchantment
Nevermind.
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>>53927723
>magic player can't read cards


Shocker.
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>>53927368
Neat
This one feels appropriately costed for what it does
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>>53927595
>while the Hour of Eternity will be the worthy dead resurrecting as Eternals.

4UBR
Exile all creature cards from all graveyard, create that many 4/4 zombie creature named Eternal.

?
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>>53927723
Yes you can

>>53927739
Because both players didn't bother to read the card.
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>>53926694
Exile is the second gy these days. It's getting more and more common to end games with as many cards exiled than in the gy.
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>>53927408
Scarab god is inevitably going to do something with mill. That said I want it to put -1/-1s on things whenever a creature enters the battlefield under you control so that it can go infinite with the other two.

Draw a card, token off Locust, -1/-1 off Scarab onto token, card off Scorpion until you either deck yourself or find what you were looking for.
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>>53925402
That looks severely undercosted
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>>53927820
What does the word "another" mean to you?
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>>53927820
Now I know why you didn't read the card. You don't know how to read at all!
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>>53925402
Why does black green always get good cards

t. Izzet mage
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>>53927882
>>53927893
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>>53927617
It just looks like the snek is getting bullied by a chad for his lunch money.
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>>53927916
Jokes are supposed to be funny, nerd.
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Should hour of glory depict Rhonas' head being impaled by the scorp's stinger? y/n?
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>>53927939
FUCK YOU. Rhonas shall be an eternal.
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>>53927919
It looks more affectionate than that.
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>>53927939
If the art was following my tastes? Yes
If the art was made with the well-being of the game in mind? No
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>>53927989
Why would it harm the game? Would be pretty metal.
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>>53927989
why would that impact the well being of the game
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>>53928008
>>53928015
>>53928015
People don't want to see "gory" things on the cardboard they buy for their children
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>>53928008
>>53928015
Because itd be one less piece of hilarious art.
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Why won't WOTC abandon Mill and create a new identity for UB?
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>>53928008
>>53928015
Would probably have idiots complaining about it like with Triumph of Ferocity.
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>>53927733
>>53927739
y-yeah sorry

I will have to use 2 of them|
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>>53927962
Manalith finally is better than another manarock
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>>53928030
Theres people being impaled like every set
Not to mention being torn apart by magic, pools of blood, vampires cannibalizing people, zombies, and so on
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>>53928038
Shut up, Justin.
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>>53928030
It doesn't have to be very graphic. Could be drawn in an angle that hides the gore but still implies the head impalement.
Also, it's not like they haven't done gory art before. Pic related.
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>>53926590
>I'm going dry
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>>53928038
Because UB is for bad guys so it can't be good because then all the GW players who want to make dudes can't make dudes because UB will stop them or kill their dudes :^(
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>>53925394
>bad mutavault

Still good tho
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>>53928104
This flavor text always makes me shiver.
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>>53928104
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>>53925383
What's the point of cost reduction effect if it's on a legendary card that costs 6?
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>>53928078

??

This card is actually strong though
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>>53928329
Play a 4 mana sphinx for two from your hand/from his FoF, draw another, play that, draw another, play that, draw more cards and end up with a bunch of cheap fliers and draw lots of cards?
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>>53928038

UB mill doesn't have to be bad though, mill is flavorful and interesting, the problem is that the only mana efficient cards they have (besides Ashiok) just purely mill people, like you're gonna "burn" them out, which is boring. UB mill gameplan should revolve around the opponents gy as a source of card advantage, casting their spells, reanimating and cloning their creatures, exiling their gy as a cost for your spells

They already have some of these effects peppered throughout my history but they are usually overcosted or underpushed
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>>53925402
>Not driven to drink.
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>>53928329
That kind of reduction helps you to cast multiple spells and his trigger works better when you can cast more.
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>>53925839
Bolster 7
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>>53928104
Khans of Tarkir block was the last one with any sort of cool art direction and world building
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>>53926742
This card revolves around getting creatures into your graveyard. The looting is a BONUS, not a cost.
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>>53928498
I feel wizards worldbuilding has been pretty good. And i thought SOI and Kaladesh had a pretty interesting art directions in general.
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>>53928419
Underrated post.
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>>53925849
Insects have a precedent as blue in Innistrad already and he was never going to be green because Bolas. Making tokens is in red, haste is primarily red, looting is red, flying is primarily blue, and there are blue insects. Stop crying about it in every thread. Nothing about Locust God's abilities are green. If you try to say that the last ability is GB, all of the HoD gods have it, so that's irrelevant.
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>>53926853
That looks more like Odanatoptera rather than Hymenoptera. I know it's fantasy, but it should at least have at least 1 (one) familiar feature if you're going to call it something as specific as a wasp.
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>>53928540
Kaladesh had awesome art directions backed by mediocre at best story and worldbuilding.
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>>53928646
There's some precedent for insects in R too
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>>53928646
This logic is pretty circular. He has his abilities because he's UR, he isnt UR because of his abilities, so justifying the color with his abilities is not correct. I dont think its a question of whether or not the abilities are UR.
For the record, all colors do tokens in whatever amount is necesssary mechanically or thematically. Blue in particular has been leaning into tokens a lot lately actually. UG in BFZ limited was the scion deck, kaladesh and ORI had thopters in UR, and Amonkhet had Embalm in WU.
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>>53928030
>>53928104
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>>53927962
I really hate how parasitic this is all getting.
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>>53928865
It's just the planeswalker deck, anon.
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>>53928865
That particular card is from the planeswalker deck, so you never have to see it.

They are too afraid to have search effects look for any planeswalker of a type rather than one specific printing.
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>>53928865
i actually rather like that card, even for EDH. really nice to have a way to navigate your 99 card bolas-themed deck to find your favorite card, and it can't be abused to find meme combos like other tutors
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>>53928865
Every set has parasitic aspects. Its 9kay to have it sometimes. This design is fine because it works by itself. Its shit but thats the premise of the PW decks to begin with for better or worse so itd be shit no matter what.
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>>53928893
>>53928910
>someone's first experience with magic will be an entire deck built around sucking a planeswalker's dick
Not really better desu
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>>53928825
And since red and blue both have a precedent with insects, there's no reason for Locust God not to be UR. It couldn't have been green in any way, and scarabs are more black, so Locust had to get shafted from black.
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>>53928910
>They are too afraid to have search effects look for any planeswalker of a type rather than one specific printing.

I for one am glad that cards only present in precons will not become format staples.
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>>53928940
Planeswalkers are the face of the game. Of course people just starting out want to pick their favorite dude and play a deck based on them. Thats why these exist in their current form to begin with.
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>>53928946
>god of LOCUSTS
>UR
>art is not vibrant and colorful at all
>UR

Yeah, it's not UR at all. Extreme fail overall.
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>>53928946
The UR god is UR because if these were going to be Bolas colored gods, one of them had to be, and then it fot abilities based on that. Thats it.
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>>53928975
>Planeswalkers are the face of the game.
Says you I only picked this game up because people assured me you could ignore the story and just play neat spells. That's losing ground more and more.
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>>53928980
Should have been black; locusts are a plague.
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>>53929001
B or GB would make sense. Obviously the effects would be different, but that's what happens when you completely change a card's colors. Could still make insects, but they wouldn't have haste.
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>>53928980
Why does UR have to be vibrant and colorful? Does red have to be all goblins and fire and does green have to be all elves and nature? If not, there's no reason why the Locust God should be pigeon-holed by that.

Besides, you're suggesting that a god that spams flying tokens should be GB for some reason, in a set that revolves around UBR beating the shit out of everyone else.
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>>53928996
>Obscure supplementary set mentions a planeswalker on two cards.
>Playing neat cards is losing ground.
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>>53927734
Deicide is still better in the sense you look through more zones to exile cards. Surgical extraction exists so its not like looking through the opponent's deck is a white exclusive part of the pie.
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>>53925383
>hours

Its hour goddamnit. I bet youre the same person whos been making all these "hours of devastation" threads
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>>53928996
>Says you
Says any experience with people ever in marketing. The story has nothing to do with it. Newfags picking up the game dont know shit about the story because they're new, so that doesnt even factor into it. Its the same reason no one gives a fuck about thw story of tekken or whatever the fuck, or for another magic example the Ravnica guilds. People like to have a thing they can say is their thing.
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>>53929020
Green has no business making flying tokens.
Haste is stretching it too unless you think strangleroot geist is iconic.
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>>53929028
Youre right, it wasnt pigeonholed by that, it was pigeonholed by them making a cycle of bolas colored gods you fucking imbecile.
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>>53928995
Nothing about locusts locks it to green though, so the people wanting him to be green have no ground to stand on. Insects fall into both blue and red, so it fits.
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>>53929030
You're kidding right? The duel decks are the only way you can physically see a card in person before buying. It has shelf priority in Supermarkets, and has the most eye-catching aesthetics behind it. It's going to be how most people are introduced to the game.

But wait, you just said they're the face of the game. So which is it, obscure and hard to find, or the unavoidable face of the game?

>>53929073
Yes, and it used to be the players themselves. More and more it's starting to feel like you're just taking a backseat to whatever the actual protagonists want instead of you.
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>>53929028
http://magiccards.info/query?q=c%21urm&v=card&s=cname

Almost every UR card ever printed is vibrant, colorful, and the art usually focuses on power/energy.

This card hits none of those, and it's not even in a block where "everything is SO DARK AND EDGY" like Innistrad.
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>>53929078
Green gets haste when they want a card to be constructed playable.
>green doesnt get fliers
le hornet queen face :^^^^^)

Yes i know hornet queen is a break
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>>53929001
>>53928995
>>53928980
>>53928946
>>53928825
>>53928800
>>53928666
>>53928646
>>53927436
>>53927304
>>53927241
>>53927212
>>53927194
>>53927089
>>53926301
>>53925849

Can we all agree that Wizards was going to have to make a choice that someone wouldn't have liked and having an odd amount of Gods (something not divisible by 5) is kinda interesting?
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>>53929115
It's UR because of Bolas, you fucking dipshit.
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>>53929091
Better to be pigeonholed for that reason than because babies thinking flying insects HAVE to be BG.
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>>53929153
It could be mono black, you fucking dipshit.
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>>53929132
Naturally, no matter what decision wizards makes, someone will be unhappy. That's just how things go. A cycle of 3 gods, in Bolas flavor no less, is cool though.
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>>53928262
That's just cartoony
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>>53929172
It could also be mono blue and mono red. Being locusts isn't enough to make it black.
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>>53929111
Insects are green (just because they can appear in all colors provided flavor reasona like Delver being a bug hybrid created by science doesnt mean they arent clearly centered in a few specific ones), and they may even be the most green insect since theyre all about eating. They could easily be black as well depending on how you flavor it. I think red as well. You keep posting like you think they started with a locust god and decided UR was the most fitting color when its pretty clear they started with UB, UR, and RB god and one of them had to be a locust.
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>>53929172
They didn't wanted to make mono-color God twice, you dipshit.
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>>53929173
They could have just made 3 mono color gods that united matched grixis using meld.
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>>53929154
Says who? Who decided that? You? I dont care since i understand the conceit that one of these these had to be UR and the locust just drew the short straw but I also know that given no other direction absolutely no one would think a giant locust man would be UR.
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>>53929115
The set is literally described as "top-down Bolas." It revolves a maniacal elder dragon tearing Ancient Egypt apart with all sorts of destructive magic. It's pretty fucking grim dark.
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>>53929271
Okay. All the gods are mono black then.
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>>53929250
>3 card Meld
How disgusting. I can't wait for that in the upcoming Meld bock.
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>>53929192
Still incredibly gory.
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>>53929206
It's true that green has the most insects out of all the colors, but that's still only 77 out of 156.
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>>53929206
I'm well aware that they started with the three color pairs, and I still think that the Locust God is most fitting as UR of the choices. Scarabs are definitely black, scorpions feel best as red, so that only leaves one thing for locusts, and there's nothing really wrong with them being UR. The ability is in flavor for UR, so saying it should be BG isn't really saying much when there's nothing about it that would make it BG. Insect is a creature type that every color can have.
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>>53929198
The existing card couldnt be mono blue and itd be a real reach flavoring a mono blue locust god.
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>>53929257
BG wouldn't be my first thought for it either. I'd go to blue first if anything.
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>>53929333
What part of the art screams BLUE to you?
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>>53929283
In that case, Innistrad was monoblack and it's completely off-color that anything in Innistrad wasn't black because it was so grimdark.

That's the logic you're operating on.
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>>53929317
They're tying the Locust God to UR through the hivemind thing that seems to be up with his swarm. Sort of a destruction through a coordinated effort.
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>>53929349
I wouldn't call it mono-blue, that'd just be one is the colors I'd include in it.
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>>53929349
>MUH ART MOM
AAHHH a typical le /tg/
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>>53929361
I mean.. name a memorable, non-black innistrad card that's not *final invitational card*
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The autism is strong in this thread.
They wanted to make the three gods in Grixis colors. One of them had to be UR. They decided to pick the Locust. End of story.
And it's definitely more fitting than the Scorpion or Scarab being UR.
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>>53929317
Scarabs arent "definitely black". What about then is "definitely black"? In fact if I had the foresight (or maybe hindsight?) that I was going to make bolas colored gods, I would have actively stylized and flavored scarabs in a way to make it make sense, like giving it an association with the sun and cycles. That can easily work. Theres nothing blue about locusts flavorfully. I think they could fall anywhere in the jund realm, and not just because thate most bugs before, but just because of what locusts are and what theyre associated with.
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>>53929426
>one of them had to be UR

Says who? They could be U, R, B or B, RB, and UB. Hell, why not 4 gods that are RB, UB, GB, and WB?
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>>53929402
Are you serious?
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>>53929333
What the fuck about locusts is blue to you? I can see red but absolutely goose egg things about locusts are blue.
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>>53926590
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>>53929457
Says WotC. They didn't want more monocolored gods. They didn't want two or four gods. They wanted three dualcolored gods in Grixis colors. Get over it.
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What
the
FUCK

How the fuck could they make Dominus of Fealty UR?

There's nothing colourful about him!
He looks smug and arrogant as fuck, he's totally monoblack!
Look at his mechanics! Stealing the opponent's shit for himself? That's totally black!

This is an official petition. Make Dominus of Fealty mono-black, WotC. The people have spoken.
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>>53929492
FORGIVE ME BOLAS FOR I HAVE SINNED
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>>53929457

Because they wanted these three Gods in Bolas's colors. That's why.
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>>53929402
Delver of secrets
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>>53927368
Why does blue exist solely to be green's bitch now?
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>>53926590
Instead of a death scene it looks like he is getting a friendly massage.
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>>53929543
Nailed it
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>>53929402
Stony Silence
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>>53929464
Looking at every single card from Innistrad right now.

Champion of the Parish
Delver of Secrets
Geist of Saint Traft
Laboratory Maniac

That's a whole lot of non-black cards, anon.
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>>53926590
>Scorpion you prick you made me jump!
>Awww poor widdle Rhondas, c'mere and give me a smooch.
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>>53929445
Scarabs are heavily associated with curses in ancient Egypt, and curse cards are typically black and blue.
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Why the fuck are people bitching about "muh color pie?" Calm the fuck down.
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>>53929402
Avacyn, Angel of Hope.
Cavern of Souls.
Delver of Secrets.
Faithless Looting.
Geist of Saint Traft.
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight.
Laboratory Maniac.
Sigarda, Host of Herons.
Snapcaster Mage.
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben.
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>>53929445
Many scarabs recycle carrion. That relation to death and recycling is very black.
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>>53929621
>mentions cards that are not from Innistrad in an Innistrad only discussion

>angels
>Innistrad

That's from [REDACTED] anon; we don't talk about that set.
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>>53929402

Snapcaster Mage. Which still should have been red.
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>>53929592
Name 'memorable' black cards from Innistrad then, anon.
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>>53929652
I literally said except Snapcaster Mage because it could have been in any set.
b-b-b-b--b-b-b-b--b-bb-ut muh flashback!
Just let have it let you cast the spell until EOT like Jace, Telepath Unbound does.
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>>53929445
Scarabs are often carrion eaters, and in Egyptian mythology in particular are strongly associated with death.
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>>53929652
No it should have been black
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>>53929675
Liliana of the fucking veil
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>>53926590
>mfw
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>>53929675
Liliana of the veil comes to mind.
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>>53929727
Good job, that's one. More memorable non-black cards than black cards.
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>>53929675
I'm going to assume you mean cards other people are likely to remember and not cards I remember.

Bloodline Keeper
Bump in the Night
Curse of Death's Hold
Endless Ranks of the Dead
Heartless Summoning
Liliana of the Veil (not sure how much she counts)
Olivia Voldaren
Unburial Rites
Victim of Night

I'd personally add Bloodgift Demon, Elbrus the Binding Blade, Village Cannibals, and Army of the Damned; but I also have a huge Innistrad fetish.
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>>53929426
I dunno I actually might have made the Scorpion UR, flavourwise. Of the three it's the insect I'd be least likely to associated with Black, though now that I check there have only been 2 nonblack Scorpions printed, and one of those was a black-flavoured artifact.
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>>53929675
Liliana of the Veil
Tragic Slip
Grave Crawler

Can Griselbrand be an honorary member of innistrad?
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>>53929747
>more memorable card in other 4 color than this one color
>rrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>53929773
I skipped Dark Ascension since that's cheating (every card is black).
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>>53929754
>Bloodline Keeper
What?
>Bump in the Night
What?
>>Curse of Death's Hold
What?
>Endless Ranks of the Dead
What?
>Heartless Summoning
Okay.
>Liliana of the Veil
Okay.
>Olivia Voldaren
Okay.
>Unburial Rites
What?
>Victim of Night
What?

That's a rather odd definition of memorable, especially when you don't include more memorable ones like Griselbrand and Tragic Slip.
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>>53929796
I accidentally put in Elbrus which is not from ISD.

You literally have not played ISD if you don't know Bloodline Keeper, Endless Ranks of the Dead, or Unburial Rites.
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>>53929766
I definitely think with the benefit of hindsight the scarab shohld have been UR. But they already flavored scarabs as black in this set. I actually think locusts as red is ok. I guess in my mind I justify the blue by assuming the locust god has an inherent association with the Hekma, whose caretakers are focused on blue.
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>>53929820
Everyone knows unburial rights is a white card you silly billy.
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>>53929796
I would argue that unburial rites has had a greater impact than heartless summoning on magic as a whole especially considering cube and EDH.

I agree with everything else though.
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>>53929840
Well, it's "technically" 2 colors but sure.
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>>53929402
Delver, Geist of Saint Traft, Balefire Dragon, Champion of the Parish, Stony Silence, Lab Maniac, Doomed Traveler, Invisible Stalker, Parallel Lives, Past in Flames? If you're counting block I like Huntmaster of the Fells, Grafdigger's Cage, Thalia, Cavern of Souls, Bonfire of the Damned, Entreat the Angels, Lingering Souls, Craterhoof Behemoth, Avacyn, Misthollow Griffin, Terminus, Thought Scour, Tibalt is memorable for being shit.

>>53929675
Lily, Army of the Damned, Heartless Summoning, Olivia, . Block has Zombie Mikaeus, Gravecrawler, Grizzlebee, Tragic Slip.

>>53929747
That's a given since there are vastly more nonblack cards.

>>53929796
>he doesn't know about Unburial Rites, Curse of Death's Hold, or Victim of Night
What a casul
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>>53929796
Unburial Rites is a staple in any reanimator deck in any format, and Endless Ranks of the Dead combines with Rooftop Storm and Zombie Apocalypse to make the best flavour cards in the game.
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>>53929508
>cloud/sky god
>black
>smug
>blue is the color of smug
>stealing shit until EOT
>literally only in red
>black stealing anything
That's on like one card, and it's creatures only.
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>>53929853
It's basically two colors.

It's technically black and only black.
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>>53929830
Eh... after rethinking it a bit, as it stands, if we assume locusts are ok in red if the flavor is that they are mindless and careless consumers, then all the gods and their bug only have one color in common. So I guess the way it is is alright.
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>>53929881
I wrote technically and couldn't think of a better word; yes, you're right.
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>>53929881
Unless you're playing EDH, then it's technically black AND white.
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>>53926204
Maybe stop playing a fanfiction format.
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>>53926417
I dig this.
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>>53929879
>black stealing anything
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So is the unannounced god going to be the scarab god
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>>53929881
Historically through all games of magic, what do you think is the ratio between casts of that spell for 4B compared to 3W flashback?

2-1?
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>>53929916
If you're playing EDH, it's basically two colors.

It's technically black and only black with a white activation cost, which is illegal if your commander can't support it.
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>>53929675
Bloodgift demon.
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>>53929946
If Iona says "No white spells" you can still play it.

It's black.
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>>53929938
Yes.
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>>53929946
I'd guess it's actually much closer to even, since a lot of the decks using it would be self-milling to get targets into the graveyard, so they may never actually have it hit their hand.
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>>53926590
I'm not sure i understand the effect other than the exile, what the fuck does the rest even mean?
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>>53929984
This bugs me because there actually is a scarab headed god, but the scarab head is positioned he opposite way.
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>>53930000
I believe there was an entire standard deck around it, frites reanimator, use stuff like faithless looting, mulch and forbidden alchemy to get unburial rites + elesh norn or something into the graveyard then flash it back to reanimate her. Looked quite fun to play.
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>>53930027
It strips copies of the exiled creature from its controller's hand if the creature is a god.
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>>53930027

If you cast this and Exile Rhonas, your opponent reveals their hand and if they have any other copies of Rhonas, they Exile them. It works for any creature that's a God, including the Theros block Gods.
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>>53927103
What if creature types are just flavor and can be in more than one color. Instead of being autistically boxed in to appease people obsessed with muh patterns.
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>>53926590
The articles about how this is a depiction of nigger abuse vs white people followed by Wizards apologizing for being insensitive in 3...2...1...never

I bet the sjws fap to this art because black inhuman things dominating
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>>53930027
Exile a creature. If that creature had the God subtype, you can look at their hand and exile any other copies there.

It's trash.
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>>53926757
Bolt is at an all time low in modern.
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>>53930062
Anyhing can be any color, but the flavor has to back it up. Just like they flavored white zombies this block, or like theyre apparently flavoring mono white vampires next block.
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>>53930098
Holy fuck. That is actually very good.
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>>53930098
Wasnt this confirmed fake
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>>53930098
What's it from? Doesn't seem real, given the flavor text.
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>>53930120
God I hope not
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>>53930051
>>53930059
>>53930074
Gross and niche
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>>53930094
>Anyhing can be any color,
Ok i just realized this isnt true but as long as he mechanics also fit
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>>53927241
>If you're only looking at the good side of green
>implying green has a bad side

It's the superior color for a reason.
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>>53930140
>Creatures: The Tappening: The Color
>superior
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>>53930098

>3 mana destroy land instant
>Not in red

Yeah, I'm gonna say fake.
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>>53930204
delete this
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>>53930098
Could have convinced me if it weren't an instant.
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>>53928975
I liked it better when the focus was on you being a planeswalker.
The intro decks make it feel more like you're playing as Liliana or Bolas or whatever.
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>>53929402
Tell you what, instead open a GP Vegas Modern VOD and find me an uninterrupted 2 hours without a non-black non-invitational Innistrad card being mentioned, showed or played.
Protip: you can't.
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>>53930098
Fake as fuck. HOU has 199 cards, not XX4 like this card says
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>>53930264
Well yeah thats the point. Then you build your own deck
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>>53930132
It was, collector's number is off
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>>53930266
Nobody cares about your stupid format.
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>>53930098
Too good to be true.
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>>53925394
>1
Bretty good
>2
Nope, it's shit.
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>>53930204
Burn is blue. This old card I fished up proves me right.
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>>53927368
>sorcery top half
Almost playable.
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>>53930094
Yes and the flavor is that bolas stole and warped these gods to be his personal tools. So of course they're bolas colors.
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>>53925383

I've wanted a Sphinx Lord for ages now, fuck yeah. Now just make a Sphinx PW.
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>>53930352
>Blue is B/R now.
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>>53928134
It's Mutavault for non tribal decks, might jam the thing into Pox even.
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>>53930430
>scry 3

the poor man's brainstorm
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>>53926853
this card is the nuts, people should be going ape shit
>black
>2 drop / 2 attack
>flying
>no down side
>has upside
>no requirments

doesn't even need to be in a bolas deck to be good, it's vault scourge's little half brother
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>>53928975
>Planeswalkers are the face of the game

This was a mistake.
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>>53930706
http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3Aflying+c%21b+pow%3D2+cmc%3D2&v=card&s=cname
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>>53930806
I am not the same anon, but what is the link for?

It is exactly as he said, its (1)B for a 2/1 flyer with no downside.


all those linked have some sort of downside
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>>53930806
exactly, all those cards have downside, this doesnt

>reliable
>dependable
>easy
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>>53930806
The thing is a 2/1 flyer for 2 and nothing else, Crusader is the only one I'd call better but he's BB and needs mana to fuel his abilities.
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>>53929923
yeah, beccause sphynx tribal was totally aimed for standard right?
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>>53930706
Probably because we're in a format with fatal push and other fairly playable removal spells that laugh at 1 toughness.
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>>53929028

> UBR beating everyone else

If only U and R actually got more decent cards. Seems like B/G/W has been getting the good stuff for a while now.
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>>53930960
>sphinx tribal EDH
It's more of a casual deck than EDH. There's only 40 sphinxes in mtg, most of which aren't very good and they're all at least CMC 5 or above. It's not really a good tribe, and tribal isn't normally a good idea in EDH.
You're really just better off running Sharuum sphinx tribal if you REALLY want it, since she can just recur the tribal artifacts and you're in tutor colors then.
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>>53931129
>blue is no longer allowed to be good
>red is no longer allowed to be good

- Current R&D
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>>53930352
>>53930503

> Blue will never get "fuck the color pie", cool and flavorful cards like this again

Not even a blue mage, but by extension red wont get cool fuck the color pie cards anymore either. Shame.
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>>53931103
even in a format with fatal push you still have to play 2 drops in most decks

yes heart of kern exists but in the history of black a 2 attack 2 drop has never existed with flying without some sorta drawback, unless you count vault scourge
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>>53931207
>blue is no longer allowed to be good
>red is no longer allowed to be good
>U/G/R energy is T1 even without marvel and the most popular control of late is U/R
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>>53931235
>caring about standard
Did you seriously not play standard even like 6 months ago? It was almost exclusively BG and then before that it was ONLY WG collected company.
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>>53931235

Izzet is literally 2-3 decks out of 146 in the current meta, while U/G/R evergy is at its core green with red and blue support. There are a handful of currently popular red and blue cards while G/B/W form the backbone of multiple tier 1 decks.
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>>53931235
except the deck is basically
G with 2 tagalongs for energy

the U and R are basically only there for energy generation
also he isn't wrong
blue is shit
and red is getting a nice little boost with these last two sets but is still shit
the fact that they have to pair with green to see play is just an abomination
green is undoubtedly the worst color and needs to go back to being the shitty timmy color that is bad
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>>53931282
What are you talking about? Since KLD it's been
>Vehicles/Marvel/Delirium, with Marvel being the strongest and Delirium being the weakest
>Em gets banned, Cat Combo and Vehicles
>Cat gets banned, back to Marvel, Vehicles, G/B - Marvel still the strongest
>Marvel banned, Temur Energy still strong.
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>>53931393
trends
G is always meta
W is always meta

B U and R and conditional depending on how good they pair with G and W

this is the problem
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>>53928165
Terrifying flavor text
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>>53931419
It's because white are the defacto good guys and green is the new player color. That's why they are so pushed. Collected Company is literally the most cancerous card ever printed
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>>53931419
This is why legacy is the best format.
Blue is the most played color, black is second, red is a bit behind in third (?), white has its token annoying deck, and green gets cucked as it should.
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>>53931523
Elves is a tier 1 deck
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>>53931378
>green
>ever bad
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>>53931523
>token annoying deck
DNT is top tier you mongrel.
Stoneforge Mystic sees a lot of play now too

>green gets cucked
>DRS is still unbanned
>el goyfo is still good
>Abrupt Decay is still the best removal in legacy
>Elves is a fucking nightmare of a bullshit deck
>Leovold is Legacy legal
>Noble Hierarch sees play
>NicFit
>Lands
>Aluren Memes
>Enchantress
>Infect
>Green Sun's Zenith
Elves was a top deck even before the top ban. A deck with playsets of Recall, Academy and Tinker cannot be bad.
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>>53931714
Where in my post did I imply that d&t wasn't top tier?
>DRS
is a black card
>goyf
is not a green card
>abrupt decay
what is swords to plowshares now that counterbalance doesn't exist
>Leovold
is black and blue
>SHITFIT
LMAO

I will say I totally forgot about elves because I was used to it just not existing thanks to Terminus.
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>>53931523
>green bad with leovold, gaea's cradle and deathrite legal
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>>53930234
>Not red
But muh Sinkhole
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>>53931751
>D-doesn't count
Or else you're just counting mono-colored, which is just pedantic bullshit. Legacy is not normally a mono-colored format, with DNT and Elves being outside of the norm. KYS you goalmoving cunt.
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>>53931378
I hope green stays the way it is, if only to tick off the "muh spells and deep gameplay" crowd.
>>
Think we'll ever see what the pre BOLAS'D gods were like?
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>>53932518
Nissa will fix up everything after the Gatewatch wins.
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>>53932539
>after the Gatewatch wins.
What are you talking about
>>
>Gatewatch wins
That'd be an interesting card for Un-Stable
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>>53932560
Wait are you telling me that the Jacestice league doesn't pull another rabbit out of the hat?
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>>53932685

Nope. Get their asses kicked, scattered to the winds, and it looks like Bolas even takes Chandra hostage.
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>>53932685
Does defeating Tezzeret even really count?
He's MtG's version of stealing Candy from a baby.
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>>53932739
Where do people get the "Bolas takes Chandra hostage" thing from?
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>>53932766
I was referring to defeating Kozilek and Ulamog.
>>53932739
Oh, neat. This might be an interesting block for once!
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>>53926694
Exiling is just killing it hard enough that you can't reanimate it.
Black is fully able to exile shit and always has.
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>>53926694

>>53932851
This

Since they replaced Regenerate with Indestructible, exile is the new "can't be regenerated"
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>>53932790
I'd credit that more to Zendikar (the plane) and Nissa than the Gatewatch.
People tend to forget that Zendikar has ridiculously strong Mana and as it's chosen representative/whatever, Nissa is near Oldwalker level strong when channeling it.
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>>53929879
It's not colorful!
All UR cards are colorful and vibrant!
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>>53927408
well seeing as from the 2, they compliment each other, scorpion places counters and draws cards from -1-1 deaths, locust makes drawing cards = tokens, scarab will also have drawing power probably, as bolas himself likes to do that... but idk, some think embalm like mechanics, I think an exert mechanic, but who knows
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>>53925823
black green -1/-1 counters got another staple
trample menace sneks and infinite keks
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>>53931419

Almost never a viable deck that only uses white and green though, which is interesting, there was the gw tokens for a short time there until people found better uses of Gideon

Red is currently the most popular color, it's interesting that no matter how much people complain about how red's not allowed to be good boo hoo hoo harnessed lightning is still one of the most played cards

Also glimmer of genius
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>>53932885
Even before that, Black has not had any problem exiling shit, and I don't get where this idea that Black can't exile even came from. It's gotten it throughout the history of the game, every so often, from The Dark through today, just in low doses because early on you wanted to be able to reanimate stuff, and then for a while it wasn't that much of a difference between the two.
The only difference with the switch to indestructible is that Black's getting it more often than 'occasionally' now.
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>>53934444

I really dislike black getting exile removal for a couple reasons:

1-indestructible is already very weak
2-black already has a perfectly good way of dealing with indestructible creatures
3-black already has a perfectly good way of preventing creatures from being recurred with all their excellent gy hate
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>>53934561
But unconditional exile is literally a WB thing. In that order.
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>>53934725
Haste is literally a RBG thing. In that order.
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