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Purity restored edition.

>FAQ
https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Warhammer_40000_Designers_Commentary-ENG.pdf

>Leaks:
https://mega.nz/#F!3odCTLCa!5Jc-zB2-JJcYlT55L6FN8g
CHAOS INDEX: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=42492327752258854809

>Latest news :
https://www.warhammer-community.com

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
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>list builder, being updated so stop whining about your guardsmen or whatever, faggot.
http://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#!/rosterCreator#%2FrosterCreator

>WIP Math-hammer doc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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First for the Hrud
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2000 pts

Battallion detachment

Captain with relic blade and master-crafted boltgun, 98

Company commander with plasma pistol, power axe, 40

5 tactical marines with plasmagun, combi-plasma, 93

10 tactical marines with combi-flamer, plasma, plasma cannon, 175

10 guard infantry with heavy bolter and flamer, 55

Chimera with multilaser and heavy bolter, 93

Rhino with 2 storm bolters, 74

Razorback with TL assault cannon, 100

Spearhead detachment

Techmarine with conversion beamer, 83

Deimos predator with plasma destroyer and 2 lascannons, 207

Deimos predator with infernus cannon and 2 heavy flamers, 184

Predator with predator autocannon and 2 heavy bolters, 171

Leman Russ with battle cannon, lascannon, 2 heavy bolters 190

Relic sicaran venator with 3 heavy bolters, 275

Vindicator with storm bolter, 162
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>>53918890
Use the fucking army builder you plebian.
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Is cypher a dark angel?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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>>53918908
Yup
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>>53918904
Half of those models aren't in the army builder dipshit or else I would.

Or do you have some magic army builder that already has forge world models? The web one doesn't have guard either.
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this any good? worth the extra points over the regular kind?
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>>53918931
stop being a WAAC forge p2w world fuck
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>>53918955
And thus the shitposting is already going full swing.
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Pink horrors are shit
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>>53918955
I'm sorry you're too poor to afford real models, anon.

Why don't you go back to scrubbing the paint off the blood angels you bought on bartertown?
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Just leave the safety of the imperium to us
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>>53918955
How is those second hand necrons going? Is it too hard to scrap the paint from others man dudes?
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>>53918997
>muffled kurwa in the distance
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>>53918997
Are the guys on the side rabbits in a human suit?
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>>53918997
>average inquisition strikeforce
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yall should read this short story about Arvus, a member of a civilian work gang and a Death Korps of Krieg deserter rebuiling after a failed chaos uprising.

It gives a glimpse into civilian life in the 41st millennium

https://mega.nz/#!3EJjiLSa!aAVARAhw8CoBdMhvnifq_9aBrdGVcWXhC-NhGp9jdfQ
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>>53918955
>2017
>8th edition just came out last saturday
>still upset about forgeworld

it's okay anon, getting good is not a terminal condition and one day you'll be okay.
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>>53919029
>epub
No thanks.
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When are the Imperial Guard and Ork codexes supposed to come out?
And is that new xenos race rumor true?
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>>53919029
>Death Korps
>Deserting
Absolute lies/10
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when the rulebook says something on a model takes the transport space of 2 other models does that mean each one takes up 2 or 3 total space in a transport?
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>>53919064
After chaos, which comes after the individual chapters.
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>>53919029
>Reading fanfic self inserts

No thx
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>>53919064
Nobody has any information on any codex release other than some of them might be coming out soon.
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>>53919072
read it and find out

He ends up re-enlisting with the local guard regiment"
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>>53919081
It's as canon as anything else black library
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>>53919108
So not at all?
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>>53919108
Anything past 4th edition is basically fanfiction. This is common knowledge
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>>53919029
boring. get me a story about the humble skull taxidermist. you know, the guy who collects, polishes, services and takes care of all the skulls or servo skulls in 40k.
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Sup /tg/, today I had a 2v1 game against an Orkbro, with me and my actual brother in a team. Our army was 50/50 Space Marines versus 100 pp of Orks. We ended up running the Blitz mission. I ran a simple Vanguard Detachment with two HQs, and 3 elites. Most of my points were sunk into a Tartaros squad sitting cozy in a Land Raider Crusader.

So the mission was simple. The Ork Player got Preliminary Bombardments as well as Sustained Assault, so his army should have been pretty beefy. His troops automatically respawn, and he gets to roll for artillery bombardment at the start of the game. We used our command points(Only 3, my brother wasn't battleforged), to bunker down a squad of Hellblasters to give them a 1+ save. While I reserved the last one for Proxy-mines.

The game went pretty well, all things considered. The Orkbro decided to use his Wyrdboy to teleport his Meganobz right behind a squad of primaris dudes(the ones with the Longbolters), and then he vaporized them in melee. Which honestly was pretty wasteful, considering his better option would have been to use his Meganobz to blow up my Land Raider.
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I'm thinking of starting Sisters of Battle (Adeptus Ministorum I guess its called now) and I'm looking through their rules to pick out a possible army. Arco-Flagellants seem really good on paper but (2 wounds, +5 invul, D3x2 attacks) but Sisters Repentia have that x2 strength and the -2 AP. Any suggestions on what would be best? Am I a fool for wanting to play SoB in the first place?
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What are the most effective terminators vs other marines?
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>>53919108
According to the former editor they're as canon as anything else. He hasn't been contradicted yet.
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these boys won me the release tournament at the flgs

it's too bad warp talons are still utter shit, despite what the fags at 1d4chan say
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>>53919182
>sisters of baller
There is no point in using Repentias, unless you are hellbent about using SoB units.

Arco, Acolytes, Crusaders and DCA do repentias work cheaper and better.

Except for maybe Knight hunting
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Since everyone migrated over here, does anyone know if OOE confers the bonus to itself since it has the Carnifex keyword and can an additional attack be made for each Scything Talon pair on models that have them? I'm really not sure about this and would like to get an answer before I make an ass of myself by getting this wrong.
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>chapter tactics will never come out
>ywn find that 7/11
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>>53919184
Axe CSM are good and cheap, GK are best for killing enemy termies, Scarab Occult are great but expensive
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>>53919081
>>53919072
>>53919029

Now in PDF
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>>53919214
the look pretty anon, do you have a close up of that demon?
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>>53918971
I'm picking up thirty and 60 each of the blue and brimstone horrors because for some reason my LGS wants to do power level events.

I play chaos marines and I plan on letting my Chaos Lord summon them on the fly only when the opponent cheeses it up.

Might summon my Diazmonettes for fun though.
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>>53918997
>Inquisitor Ayh-Nahn, your henchmen are....
"strange, commander?"
>yes sir, not to put too fine a point on it.
"Well you see Commander, they may look odd, but I've never found more useful servants in the Galaxy."
>is that so?
"Aye. Twitch there on the left is half ratling, and I swear he hasn't eyelids, but there's not a better shot this side of Armageddon."
>I see. And the small animal he was beating earlier?
"A small price for the heads he's brought me."
>fair enough. Who's the fellow on the right?
"You mean chip? Was set to be a servitor after the battleshock he experienced watching his platoon sliced to bits by the dark Eldar. I intervened."
>and?
"And he's about as good a shot as a blind Gretchen, but when he gets out there, he's the fastest trigger in the Galaxy. Part of the reason, I suspect, is that he hopes the damn gun will overheat and send him back to be with his brothers."
>damn.
"Yeah."
>and the one in the middle?
"An ogryn I found wandering Tallarn. He says he's the brother of bullgryn chieftain Robbin' Crud-Dance. Don't know if I believe him."
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>>53919214

>a fully painted night lords army

Makes me feel like shit, anon. Thanks. They look great, though. Love the Prince.
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Can we talk frugal for a bit?

Where do you guys get minis for cheap, other than trawling ebay every few hours? I saw a start collecting crons box for $65 free shipping, but im poor and desperately need some heavy destroyers or a dday ark. Feels bad man
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>>53919177
So let's have a rundown of what I've figured out about the various units and their tactical purposes.
> Crusader LR: [Crowd Control Tank] Works great as a solid wall, as well as Crowd Control. This was the MVP of my whole game for keeping infantry pinned down, while also tanking fire for other units.
> Contemptors: [Anti-Elite]. Their High-speed and relatively good firepower meant they could take out elite units.
> Tartaros Terminators: [Anti-Everything]. I had a Tartaros squad equipped with Reaper Autocannon, 2 Chainfists, Plasma Blaster, and Grenade Harness. When paired with a chaplain, they seemed to be almost excessively good at engaging multiple units. I had mine split-fire and charge at a minimum of 4 units at a time. Hellblasters would weaken Deff Dreads and Killa Kanz, while my PB and RAC would finish them off handilly, then the rest of the guns shoot everything else. And they charge nearby units to delete them. With some solid plays, I had a single 5-man terminator squad wiping 2 units out a turn, and once even taking out 3 at a time.
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>>53919214
I enjoy talons. No overwatch allows for some good turn 1 combos. They just need a sorc to guarantee the charge.
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what is the easiest/laziest way to paint cultists and still have them look decent?
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>>53919336
Base coat and a wash or two worked for me. Nothing fancy, but looks fine on the table.
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>>53919227
yes to OOE's bonus, and scything talons only give one extra attack if you have two or more pairs, not an extra per talon. the trygon prime has 6 attacks and three pairs of talons, so it gets 7 attacks total for having two or more pairs
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>>53919336
Wash Over White.
> Prime White
> Wash with Agrax Earthshade all over
> Wash with Reikland Fleshshade over all their skin.
> Wash with [Colour] Shade of your choice on everything else.
> Put leadbelcher on their weapons
> Nuln oil on Weapons, everything else optional.
And done. You can paint like 100 cultists simultaneously like this in 2 hours, and it looks fairly decent. While at the same time, it's literally impossible to screw up because even a monkey can apply washes.
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So now that some time has passed, what are the tier lists looking like now?
Based off browsing people's games and comments, no one really seems to be in the gutter. And only infantry spam guard/nid/ork comes across as over the top.

Aside from that, Tau aren't as bad as people kneejerked, Necrons are tough but have weaknesses like being boring to play unless you like games thrice as long as they should be, so not broken. Orks don't need to whine anymore.
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>>53919267

thanks dogg
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>>53919336
Base coat their pants, base coat their shirt, basecoat their skin and weapons, devlon mud the whole model. To save a step you ignorantly forgot early in this process, basecoat the base with one of those technic paints and then do steps one and two.
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>>53919309
facebook trading and locals, but beware at the cost of cheap some dudes have no damn idea how to prepare or paint models. the horror stores i could tell you...
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Okay, so the big show down in Ultramar is coming soon. Chaos v Imperium. But who will the NPC races fight for?

https://strawpoll.com/ysf5zcw
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>>53919383
>Necrons are unkillable but that's a weakness because it's boring!

You're fucking retarded.
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>>53919211
Thanks!
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So wtf is up with Warlord Traits... For matched play specifically. Is it on the gamers to decide if they want to use it? If its a tourney at a store is it on the store to decide? Like what are people doin with em.
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>>53919402
Corona, the surrounding planets will be staging zones and the wall's not built yet, so the aliens will fight these staging points for Corona.

Also Tau will fight a million lightyears from Konor but will somehow slow down the take over of this system while building their Empire.
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>>53919383
Orks are Tier 1, but realistically only if they play a VERY SPECIFIC build, which is just Massed Boyz with Wyrdboyz to teleport them all over the place(mostly into melee). For every other build, they're essentially now middle of the line. I got my ass fucking tabled by a Meganob and dred-mob list as my first ever game of 8th edition, but then I started playing more carefully against orks. Doing stuff like precisely measuring a 22"~ distance to STAY THE FUCK AWAY from every other Ork Unit. Up until later in the game where I can finally start moving out less carefully once the ork army is weakened.

You're pretty much correct in saying that every army seems more or less similar in the tier scale. I personally run ALL-DREADNOUGHT lists, where I have anywhere from 80 to 100% of my models are nothing but dreadnoughts, and I have a roughly 50% winrate with it.
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>>53919445
You pick the one you want. But there's literally only three of them atm so there isn't really much to be done with them.
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>>53919371
Thanks. If you don't mind me asking, what exactly precludes the bonus from being applied on more than one pair exactly? From what I can read, the bonus attack seems to be available to every instance of the weapon, and if I have read the rules correctly you can attack with as many weapons as you have. Apologies in advance if this is something simple that I'm just too dumb to get.
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Just bought the mechanicum SC as my intro to 40k. How should I build my troops (vanguard or ranger) and how should I arm the tank?
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>>53919414

Feelings hurt because Necron mirrors will be snoozers?
Just keep rolling for 10 turns to get the angst to go away
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Will there be a digital version of the upcoming forgeworld stuff? Or am I forced to buy this fugging book
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>>53919464
Vanguards, put a Neutron laser on the Dunecrawler.
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>>53919459
with melee you get your amount of attacks, split up among the melee weapons on the unit however you choose, its not like "oh fuck i have three pairs of scything talons and 6 attacks, so that means i get 18 attacks"
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>>53919467

Your reading comprehension is shit.
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>>53919496
I was thinking more that you got to use each talon pair bonus individually and could therefore manage to get 3 additional attacks. Think I get this now, though.
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First army ever here

Any advice bros? Are Wulfen worth all the points?
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>>53919594
Is that all the models you have?
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>>53919484
All of them vanguards?
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>>53919623
Yes, rangers are straight up inferior.
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>>53919182
Arcos are crazy good. Put 9 with a Priest in a Rhino and you get 3x D3 attacks each at WS3+ and S5. They delete hordes and normal infantry.

Death Cult Assassins and Cruaders are also really good. All with Priests of course. Crusaders have a 3++ and can use acts of faith and DCA have 4 attacks at S4 -2AP. DCA and Crusaders will dice up any infantry with higher armor value.
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>>53919613
How could you tell?

My shop plays at 50pp.
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>>53919623
You can build one 5 man squad as Rangers with a Transuranic Arquebus if you want, but Vanguards are just all around better. The only advantage to Rangers is their longer range but Vanguards dish out a lot more damage.

>>53919669
They're still all around inferior. They aren't bad but they pretty much exist entirely to support a much larger Vanguard force.
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>>53919316
>loyalists with Reaper ACs
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GENTELMEN!! I present THE MEGA KROOT 9000
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>>53919594
>No transports
Do you want to get blasted off the table?
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>>53919714
He's like, the xenos Avatar.
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I can haz Dark Imperium novel plz?
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>>53919657
Just the makeup of the list and that there's no transports. Nothing to be ashamed of, it's not a bad list. Just look at getting some Rhinos or Drop Pods next.

>>53919717
>First army ever here
Go easy on the guy. We've all been there at some stage
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>>53919384
love it, so much better then the demon model chaos has right now. thats the skaven mutant thing that has the gatlinggun arm isnt it?
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Sup DE bros, I made a 1k list out of models I already have. How shit is it?

[Outrider Detachment, 997/1000]
HQ:
>Archon (71) - Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher
Elites:
>Incubi (98) - 1x Klaivex with Demiklaves, 4x Incubi
>[DT] Raider (116) - Dark Lance, Shock Prow
TR:
>Warriors (85) - Sybarite w/ Splinter Rifle, 8x Warrior, 1x Warrior with Splinter Cannon
>[DT] Raider (116) - Dark Lance, Shock Prow
FA:
>Reavers (224) - Arena Champion with Power Sword, 2x Reaver with Blaster and Grav Talon, 3x Reaver
>Scourges (170) - Solarite w/ Shardcarbine, 4x Scourge with Heat Lance
>Scourges (118) - Solarite w/ Shardcarbine, 4x Scourge with Haywire Blaster
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>>53919801
Gottagofast/10
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>>53919714
Is he finally toughness 4?
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>>53919714
>uses leg enchancements and shit like a weak baby
Meanwhile my shaper carriers several power armor parts and unpowered thunderhammer just to make it more fair to his prey, like a god damn Piccolo and his weighted training clothes.
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>>53919729
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>cant put units within 9"
>loses power after 2 wounds
>no fly by attacks anymore
>just a 6" gun
>cant jink
>200 fucking points

I'm so glad I didn't buy more than the one I have. Holy fucking shit forgeworld ruined this thing.
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>>53919717
Will I get blasted off the table? Should I knock some units off and get some transport on the go?

Pls help me Senpai. I don't know anyone in the hobby and all I have is my local gaming store for advice. Should I drop the Wulfen and go for transports and Scouts instead?
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>>53919801

I think your Scourge are going to get blasted off the table by heavy bolters because they have no ablative wounds.
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>>53919720
Ok, thanks. I was just looking at their stats on the Epub, and other than the range, the vanguards have an extra ability and the power to mortal wound.
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>>53919874

Transports aren't mandatory anymore, but razorbacks are still solid choices. All I can say is play what you want and see how it does. Don't become a faggot who can only play "the best" units. Build and PAINT what you have, learn how your army plays, and have fun with it.
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>>53919714
Has the mechanicum gone too far?
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>>53919464
Magnetize the tank. It's real easy. If you refuse that route then neutron laser.
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>>53918855
So I just noticed that Dark Angels can't take either Cataphractii or Tartaros, despite being the posterchildren of all-Terminator armies, and the "they have tons of old rare shit" guys.
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>>53919888

Yeah I was worried about not being MSU enough for DE. Basically the plan was to start off with the Reavers and both Raiders in hiding behind terrain and then drop the Scourges on him using the deepstrike rule. I almost always play on a terrain-heavy table but I think that won't save me if my opponent goes horde mode and/or just brings 0 vehicles.

I also have about 20 more Warriors, a Ravager with magnets, 2 Venoms, a Blasterborn squad, and some Wyches but that's about it. I only started playing a few months ago (the Wyches were bought to make conversions but I think I have 10 assembled "Wyches" [with Warrior parts stuck on] and painted).
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>Grey Knight Primaris Marine
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could thier be a small amount of astral claw loyalists? their color scheme is great they could have a large amount of dreads
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>>53919861
I think it's cute but i can't think of anything I want in it. Maybe a hellbrute???
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>>53919934
Thanks Anon

I have some Wulfen I regret buying; I may as well give them a go and see. The 13PP cost seems kind of high.
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>>53919971

>Grey Knight Primaris Marine in baby-carrier
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>>53919971
We won't get them, anon. We never get anything that the regular Space Marines get.
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>>53919977
Why not just do prefall Claws?
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>heavy bolter Tarantulas get 12 point increase for a considerable buff
I am happy
>Lascannon tarantula is 60 points
I am sad
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>>53919957
This is quite shameful. Reaper Autocannons on tartaros termis are fucking Primo. You can just reach out and touch units that are a whopping 48" away from your own squad and pound something else with the big gun.

I love my Tartaros termies for it. Their ability to engage multiple targets simultaneously is fucking godly.
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>>53919977
No, but theres nothing stopping you playing Astral Claws before they went full traitor mode.
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So, anyone know of any exo-suit like miniatures? I'm looking to use them as Ogryn/Bullgryn stand ins.
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Is it worth it to use the Shockcannon over the impaler cannon? It seems too unreliable with a worse AP modifier.
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>>53920020
Are you really sad about 2 lascannons on a T5 W4 3+ save model? cmon man. Tarantulas are amazing in 8th.
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>>53920013
I really just want a dreadnought based army and cant settle on a good color scheme for them :(
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>Rather than maintaining a single home world from which they recruit and operate, the Black Templars are a fleet-based Chapter. Refusing to adhere to the limit of one thousand active Space Marines as demanded by the Codex Astartes, each Black Templars battle-fleet contains thousands of warriors. These scattered navies embark upon dozens of bloody crusades across the galaxy.

Black Templars confirmed to be legion strength! Praised be Sigismund!.
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>>53919244
Not Black Library level but not a bad story all the same.
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>>53920048
Why not just paint them all in different chapter colors?
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>>53920059

Thank God for that. One of the few actually smart chapters who get shit done.
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>>53920020
> Tarantulas can take Twin-Assault Cannons now
> After Asscannons got fucking buffed.
> Also got Chapter Tactics
> Automated Artillery however is fucked, and doesn't apply at all if you have a Multi-melta or an Asscannon. Therefore it can freely target anything with either.
What the fuck, these are actually amazing now.
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trying to find a semi unique but not silly-coloured IG scheme for a force led by a rogue trader. does this look too tau-y?
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>>53919984

In 7th, I dropped a stock Hellbrute inside and the pair was frequently one of my MvPs for the game. The claw caused just enough damage and was just durable enough that it was a problem for my opponent that 100pts felt surprisingly alright, especially since murdertron mcHellbrute got to smash shit.

The first game I used it, I dropped down a punchy flamer brute with a Scourge out of the claw. Both immediately died to AC-PC preds and Las-plas razorbacks. The lack of jink, fly, or any sort of invul makes it 200pts of failure.
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>>53920078
well id like it to be a uniformed chapter im a lore hound so my autisum would hate such randomness
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>>53919958

I'd be legitimately concerned about hordes using that list.
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imagine a list of orks with nothing but bubblechukkas. your opponent would surrender before you're even halfway through rolling to determine what you roll to roll to shot
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With the revisions to melee weapons what are some good choices to equip my grey hunter squad leaders with?
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>>53920089
Looks photoshopped to me
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>>53920123

Whatever you think is cool, waacfag
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>>53919874
Rhinos and Land Raiders are vastly more durable now, sticking your assault units inside them is wise.
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>>53920123

What would happen if a marine with a power fist collided with the flat surface of a Thunder Hammer coming down on it?
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>>53920089
Looks like Christmas.
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>>53920085
>>53920047
>Assault cannon spiderbots are 45 points
>45 points for 12 shots at whatever you want because the automation doesn't apply
>don't have any assault cannon turrets
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>>53920179
The power fist would probably give way.
#physics
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>>53920179
whatever the writer wants. probably both bounce of each other. possibly have feedback happen to both fighters.
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to the anon who said they were selling their mega-dred, thanks man. I bought the git
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>>53920085
Fuck it I need some of these. Whats the best way to convert tarantula bodies? I've got a source for asscannons.
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>>53920188
>>53920253
https://bitsofwar.com/home/475-legionary-sentry-gun-twin-minigun.html>>53920253
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>>53920179
Lore-wise thunder hammers are more powerful because unlike other power weapons which are wasting charge constantly keeping on the power field, thunder hammers store it and release it in massive bursts only when they contact.
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>>53920253
the bases are the hard part, the bodies can be done with razorback turrets since they fit in the same sized hole.
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>>53918855
ok, I'll admit to being blind if I couldn't find it in the archive or in the links, but where's all the from the new codex/index?

all I can find is the useless rules nobody ever cares about.
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>>53920294
>all the lore
fixed
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>when you realize burnas are free
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>>53920290
Dread feet maybe?
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>>53920281
that reminds me, are punisher canon vengeance weapon batteries worth it anymore, since there aren't any always-land-somewhere templates anymore?
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++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [67 PL, 999pts] ++

+ HQ [10 PL, 200pts] +

Cadre Fireblade [2 PL, 42pts]: Markerlight [3pts]

XV86 Coldstar Commander [8 PL, 158pts]: Advanced targeting system [8pts], High-output burst cannon [20pts], Missile pod [24pts], MV1 Gun Drone [8pts], Shield generator [8pts]

+ Troops [16 PL, 192pts] +

Strike Team [4 PL, 48pts]: 5x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [40pts], MV1 Gun Drone [8pts]

Strike Team [4 PL, 48pts]: 5x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [40pts], MV1 Gun Drone [8pts]

Strike Team [4 PL, 48pts]: 5x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [40pts], MV1 Gun Drone [8pts]

Strike Team [4 PL, 48pts]: 5x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [40pts], MV1 Gun Drone [8pts]

+ Elites [29 PL, 426pts] +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit [17 PL, 306pts]: Advanced targeting system [8pts], Heavy burst cannon [55pts], Target lock [12pts]
. 2 plasma rifles [22pts]: 2x Plasma rifle [22pts]

XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [12 PL, 120pts]
. 4x Stealth Shas'ui (no upgrade) [120pts]: 4x Burst cannon [40pts]

+ Fast Attack [12 PL, 181pts] +

Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 68pts]
. 4x Pathfinder [32pts]: 4x Markerlight [12pts]
. 3x Pathfinder w/ Ion Rifle [36pts]: 3x Ion rifle [21pts]

Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 113pts]
. 4x Pathfinder [32pts]: 4x Markerlight [12pts]
. 3x Pathfinder w/ Rail Rifle [81pts]: 3x Rail rifle [66pts]

++ Total: [67 PL, 999pts] ++

The riptide isn't actually bad, the confusion due to how retarded the index is at laying out information made it seem more expensive than it really was.
Now to fuck some nigga's couch.
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>>53920311
>playing 40k for the lore
/hwg/ is that way >>53913282
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>>53920462
Nothing wrong with playing for the lore. Hence why Narrative is a thing.
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>>53920118

I was also considering doing something like this
>Replace Scourge squads with 1 completely stock squad and 1 mixed 2Blaster/2Heat Lance
>Replace Raider Warriors with 2x Venom (double SCannon), 2x Sybarite with Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Not that much of a difference but at least it'd add a target. Could also mix the Scourge squads together (2 Blasters in one, 2 HL in the other) and take advantage of the split fire rules

Do you think that'd be any better?
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Attached is a list I'm using tomorrow. It's basically the entirety of my force, except for 5 Trukks and a second Battlewagon. Knowing that, what should I look to expand into? What buy next?
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>>53920495
If you cared about the narrative you'd do so in a series where the lore isn't dictated by drunken greedy chavs.
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>>53920495
thank you.

>>53920462
the fictional history of the future is more interesting than the depressing as hell history of the past, thank you.
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>>53920111
But there have been multi-chapter all dread engagements in the lore before.
Best one I remember was during 3rd War for Armageddon when something like 15 dreadnoughts faced down a huge mob of ork walkers.
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>>53920111

Either use all of the Malestrom Warders or all of the opposing anti-separatist Chapters, then at least your force makes sense
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>>53920522

Modern History was forged by drunken greedy chavs so it's not such a stretch to have an interest in a future written along similar lines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
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>>53920111
Steel Confessors are a solid choice for All-Dreadnought lists. They worship the Omnissiah directly as their god, and consider becoming a Dreadnought as a holy ritual of ascension, during which an ascendant becomes one with the omnissiah, in mind, body, and soul. They naturally have a SHITLOAD of dreadnoughts.
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>>53918997
Guy on the left has Tabletop accurate eyes.
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>>53919402
>https://strawpoll.com/ysf5zcw

well, as a blood axe mercenary, I'm gonna be fighting for whichever side is losing. If nobody wins, the fight goes longer!
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This is pretty much all the shit I have sans I think another raider and another unit of hellions, which is also why the warriors don't have blasters.

Thoughts? I think the Scythes will get more done than the S9 lances, but it's shorter range, which isn't ideal. My raiders are a mix of Dizzy and Lance because they're pretty nice doing a straight D2. Also, the HQs ride with the wyches if it wasn't obvious. The succubus gets the +1A WL trait.

Drugs are:
>Brides get +S
>Hellions get +1A
>Reavers get +2M
>Succubus gets +1T
>Wyches get +1WS
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How do I resist the urge to start up more armies? There's so many cool things I want to try for 8th edition, but it feels like I already have way too many models.
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>>53920750

What armies you got?
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>>53920750
Give in to the urge. Addict yourself to the plastic crack. Go into financial ruin. Just. Do. It.
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>>53920786
but there are no plastic Sisters of Battle yet...
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Is it legal to field models with magnetized arms and in consolidation allow them to move freely to better pile in?
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>>53918997
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>>53920750

I don't know what to tell you man because I'm drowning in models that will likely never get finished.
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The ork list I've made as an expansion of the tiny ork force I made for Shadow War. Looking for keedback, particularly as to whether I should drop a tankbusta or two and buy more power klaws for the nobz.
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>>53919029
>>53919244
Grimdark and predictable. It was OK I guess.
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>>53920813
Ohh your one of those...
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I have one of pic-related sitting around from a previous conversion project that never really got off the ground. Thinking about filling in all the Skaven symbols and adding a bunch of Nurgle love and running it as a Giant Chaos Spawn.

Acceptable?
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>>53919464
I did the same thing. Any tips about a 2000pt. list?
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>strawpolls show the majority of people here play guard
>no one talks about them outside of Conscripts and even now that meme has died down

Guard Bros did you give up on 8th?
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>>53920860
Go for it, no one would ever use them in AoS cause Moulder sucks
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>>53920785
Chaos, Tyranids, Tau, Eldar, a smattering of Imperial stuff that I planned on expanding.

>>53920786
>>53920836
It's not even cost or time that I'm really worried about. I'm pretty good thus far about budgeting both.
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>>53920879
They're polite and let people talk about their stuff too
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>>53920863
What do you have already? For now just build a list of what you want to run.
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>>53920879
I've seen plenty of guard discussion, what are you talking about bro

Guard players are too busy stomping on people and painting up more infantry to shitpost on /tg/
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>>53920879
I'm waiting for the full codex to really do anything with my guard since my mechanized list doesn't look so hot now that an infantry screen is pretty much required.
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>>53920879
Guard is our usual higher mid tier selves. No more AP 5 and 20% points reduction on Infantry Squads means those of us that don't run conscripts have a valid option.
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>>53920917
Infantry screens will continue to be required long past a Codex. They designed the meta to require combined arms forces with diverse armies, and Tyranid turn 1 charges are meta-defining which can only be blunted by chaff screens.
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>>53920879
They're doing the 7e daemons thing. Stay quiet so GW won't nerf their bullshit.
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>>53920960
I can at least hope fire barrels will be a thing again or there will be some way to fuck with charges.
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>>53920896
a Skitarii start collecting so
>1 dunecrawler
>1 dominus
>10 skitarii rengers/vanguard

i just did this with battlescribe with a very basic knowledge of the 40k 8th

https://pastebin.com/bryn1jsy

it's just for have an idea about what i need to buy
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>>53920987
>https://pastebin.com/bryn1jsy
I'd find a way to get a pair of Transuranic Arquebus onto the Ranger squad, they don't really do much on their own.

>>53921005
Dragoons are still great
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>>53920985
Just run an conscript screen in front. then part that Cadian sea and boost to objectives
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a reminder to anyone building orks using the online list maker, some of the points are currently broken. I've noticed dreds, big guns, and mek guns are off currently but there might be more
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Speaking of Guard. Opinion on this Commissar for my Elysians?
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>>53920853
Needs more Boyz.
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>>53920879
I've been spending all my time building and painting because everything in our codex now is so good.
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>>53921035
Oops. Image didn't load
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>>53920893
>Chaos, Tyranids, Tau, Eldar,

Pretty varied smattering right there.
I'd flesh out those armies a bit. You can play shooty, swarmy, choppy, psykery, and WAACy.
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>>53920853
big choppas on nobs seem pretty darn good for the points anymore. I'd drop the zzap gun on the battlewagon for some bomb squigs. They hit vehicles on a rerollable 2+
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>>53921005
>>53921017
Thanks both
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>>53921057
They hit at strength 8 and generate 3 hits on 6+s to hit. They're shit on their own but in groups they drown shit in saves.
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>>53921045
no grave-chute/10
also elysians don't have skulls on any of their uniform or equipment
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>>53921045
While female commissar is a good idea, that one just looks like shit.
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Any thoughts on this?

Battalion detachment
Vaylund Cal (200)
Chaplain (72)

Tactical squad with combi-flamer, plasma, plasma cannon (175)
Tactical squad with combi-flamer, plasma, plasma cannon (175)
Scout squad with sniper rifles and camo (90)

Contemptor dreadnought with multimelta (167)

Land raider crusader, multimelta (314)

5 cataphractii terminators (Combi + sword, chainfist + heavy flamer, combi + chainfist, combi + power fist, LC+LC) (254)

Apothecary (55)

Relic sicaran venator with 3 heavy bolters, storm bolter, and hunter-killer missile (283)


Outrider detachment:

Techmarine with conversion beamer (83)

Tarantula with twin heavy bolter (27)

Tarantula with twin assault cannon (45)

Tarantula with twin lascannon (60)
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I found the FW chaos index but did anyone upload the space marine one?
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>>53921067
Not a fetish. Just believe in equal employment opportunities. Schola Progenium don't discriminate even if GW do.

>>53921084
Would be pretty easy to add one. May be worth filing them down?

>>53921087
Who else does them?
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>>53921036
I figure when I have more money to drop on it, I'll get more boyz (and kommandos) as I head towards 1500 points
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>>53921067
Tell me more how a female IG Commisar is fetish shit. Are there literally no women in the Guard?
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Tell me about your armies /40kg/. Why do you like your chosen faction? If you play a certain Chaos God, what about that god do you like? If you play a xenos race, what about them makes you feel warm inside?
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>>53921131
>>53921128
he's talking fetish shit because the model he posted is full on cleavage, not because it's a chick
>>
DE
I like drugs and rape and rape drugs.

Just kidding.
Playing the irredeemably evil shitbag faction is fun, and they have cool aesthetics.
There's no temptation to make Mary Sue shit for fluff, since they're all unspeakably evil.
If anything, the flaws are the fun part.
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>>53921128
if you can file off those skulls without fucking up the rest of it sure, otherwise it would look very out of place for someone who knows the slightest bit about elysians
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>>53921148
I guess but when this is also offered a little bit of cleavage aint so bad
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>>53921157
Like orks.
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>>53921157
FUGG :DDDD
meant for
>>53921139
>>
I'm giving all of my Deathwatch mans power swords unless they have a two-handed weapon because I'm a crazy person.

Swords are cool.

Death to xenos.
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>>53921131
Because she's in a fucking combat bustier like she's a dominatrix camwhore.
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>>53921178
Don't get me started on their "Sister Repentium"
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>>53921139
Rogue Trader count as Inquisition army.
Because space conquistadors are the shit and I love converting character models.
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>>53921172
How many times do you think the sculpter jerked himself off onto the master sculpt before sending it in
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>>53921169
Most of the reason I got the Elysians is they're not so Grim. From an 8th point of view having a commissar with them is almost a must now.
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>>53921196
my nigga
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>>53921196
>>53921139

I also play rogue trader dudes! Although mine use the astra militarum rules
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>>53921139
I joined up for tau because I wanted a combined a combined arms race that wasn't Imperial guard since I didn't like the world war aesthetic and the tau sky ray is sexy.
I picked Elysians because I wanted to play as an ODST force in 40k which the d-99 codex of Elysians let me do
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>>53921197
Probably too many for my liking.

>>53921199
Rightio then.. No mention of weird shit until you brought it up buddy. Back to Commorragh with those fantasies.
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>>53921139
I play guard, inquisition and non sisters ministorum. I really like humanity in 40k. I use all kinds of models and I've been trying to work on the lore. Recruiting from prison worlds and feral worlds and having close ties with an Inquisitor to be used on risky missions. Religious themes and redemption. Guard commanders that lead by example on the front lines. Stuff like that.
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>>53921139
>GK
My first faction. When the guys and I got into 40k we were trying to represent all the armies. I LOVED the idea of PALADINS IN SPACE.

>Tau
I had originally played them in the "demo match" to see if the group would like 40k. My first roll was with a hammerhead sub-munition railgun. I blew 8 boyz off the table because they were bunched up. I picked them up after rounding out a good 2k of GK because their lore of seemingly being the spark of noblebright within a sea of grimdark was awesome to me. Then came the 7th ed codex...I didn't like saying I played Tau too much because I had to prove I wasn't a Triple Riptide WAACfag every time I wanted to discuss Tau.

>DE
The models are GORGEOUS. The lore is so FUCKING EDGY and ridiculous I love it. They really challenged me to push my painting skills.

My next faction is either some Exorcists Space Marines, some Slaanesh Daemons/EC mixed(if Fulgrim gets a model), or the new race that is rumored to be coming out.
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>>53921172
I have that model. It's the ones with armor so no cleavage.
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>>53921139
i'm in the early stages of building a diverse nurgle army because the aesthetic is excellent and relatively forgiving greenstuff/paint-wise, with lots of opportunities for conversion. like all chaos gods, it lets you kitbash and proxy a very wide range of 40k and fantasy models
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>>53921263
How'd you find the quality?
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>>53920507
Stormboyz
Nauts
Stompa
Bikers

Those are pretty much the juiciest units we have, my personal go to right now is a triple Naut list with 90 boyz, I've yet to see an opponent that can deal with the walkers AND the hordes
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>>53921280
Over all okay. Details on the legs were bad.
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>>53920893

I have CSM, Daemons, Deldar, and my first army was Sisters, and I can tell you it gets out of hand in a hurry.
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>>53921308
Worth the 10 bob though?
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>>53920750
make a rule for yourself that you can't buy anything new until you've finished painting and basing the stuff you have

you know, like a well-adjusted adult with impulse control
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>>53921139
>Tyranids
Because i wanted to fluff a system based around a behemoth splinter sent into the past due to warp shenanigans that then transformed the only habitable planet into a hellish sandstorm world when the Hive ship it sprouted from crash landed there
>IG
because it's like Armageddon except with bugs and it's in the planets Moon, also the leadership is actually a genestealer cult with no patriarch, the "trueborn", who learned the truth of their alien Masters and rebelled to full effect
>Space marines
Because the di boxset has them and i think they're cool, looking for a way to incorporate them into the system, pic related
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>>53921139
I love the Imperial Guard. I've always loved how humans are relatively weak in 40k compared to other races and factions. It makes it feel all the more epic when an average man with little more than a flak vest on his body and a gun in his hands stands deifant to the end against a horde of nightmarish creatures and xenos. Or fighting DAEMONS with TANKS. I fucking love that shit so much.
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>>53921131
Female Guard regiments are extremely rare in-universe. Mixed regiments almost never happen, with the exception of the Catachans and very few others. Female Commisars only go to all-female regiments, since both are rare, as the woman who makes it as a commisar had to have been passed up as a sororitas for some reason.
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Look at this rhino. I never thought I'd take a rhino again, but look at that glorious bastard.
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>>53921344
For me yes it means something to me.
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I got to play a few 500 point matches today, first in 8th edition
Oh my god this edition is a god send to Ork
>gigantic leadership buffs
>Warboss giving constant WHAAAAAGH
>being able to charge multiple units with one unit
>attacking first on the charge and on your turn
>hitting in melee on 3+ base
It's beautiful
It's so beautiful
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Did I make Deathwatch work?
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>>53921355
how about instead of creamsicle marines you have their armor be sandblasted and pockmarked to a dull finish?
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>>53921366
Got a source for that Anon?
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>>53921379
You and me both mate. Cheers for the feedback.
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>>53921139
>Crons

What's not to love? You've got the tragedy of a fallen empire, the appeal of ANCIENT ALIENS tier technology that nobody else can hope to match, the aesthetic of egyptian terminators in space, tons of feats, everybody fears these fuckers, they're the prime enemy of the race that created most of 40k (and Fantasy, if you buy into that)... and on top of that they still find room to be wacky and fun. Also an excuse to break out the glow-in-the-dark paint.

And, let's be honest. The best bit of 40k fiction so far is really a Necron story masquerading as Inquisition story.
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>>53921406
Honestly i was inspired when pic related was posted a week ago or so, but you may be onto something
>>
Is the new Death Korps short a sequel to the previous books or nah?
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I've fought six games of 8e with this list, every one of them has been a blowout.

I think this is what I'll be dragging to my tournament next week
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>>53921176
i gave every guardsman in my army grenade launchers that could possibly have them because grenade launchers are awsome. death to heretics
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>>53921139

>Sisters
They were my first. Back in 4th when my friend got me into the game, I thought an army of Joan of Arcs with all of the fire would be sweet. I was right. Over the years, I've gotten about 2500ish points worth of pure sisters, not including the Avenger. I've given up on plastic, though.

>Daemons
In 5th, I picked up daemons because no one in my group played them, and I thought they looked like fun. I went with Tzeentch, and once again, I was right. I had about 40 horrors in a mix of metal and plastic (that was a lot back then), some flamers, a LoC, 2 princes, a shitty chariot conversion, and a handful of screamers by the time my shop closed some time after 6th edition. I found another during 7th and found I couldn't even enjoy playing them anymore. 8th is a step in the right direction, but they're actually just garbage now.

>Dark Eldar
I remember wanting to get them when the 5th release happened, but I just didn't have the money. The models were awesome and the rules looked fun. I bought them years later at the new shop because I could finally spare the cash.

>CSM - Night Lords
The person who got me into 40k played CSM, but he played EC. I remember him examining the legions to me and I thought night lords were hilarious by his description. Years later, I got some insane deals on the HH sets, so I figured fuck it. Why not? They're a bit of a paint project for me because I don't want to fuck up the lightning bolts, and I think I've been doing alright so far. I love my shitty batmans.
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>>53921139
I play Orks because I love mad max, and I love even more the massive hopelessly huge armies out of the LOTR movies

I always dreamed of having a horde that would sit on one end of the horizon to the next, iron shod boots stomping in the name of destruction and conquest.
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>>53921437
sandblasted fremen marines who drain the moisture from every tyranid they kill, fight heavily with melee weapons as each bolt round is an expensive waste

nids control underground water reserves but desperately want the marine's biomass

conflicts are quick and brutal with the winners scavenging what they need from the losers

make it happen my dude
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>>53920179
You know that thing in Anime where the two guys punch each other's fists and there's this giant shockwave and they both get knocked back and/or down?

Probably that.
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>>53921479
>who drain the moisture from every tyranid they kill
Yes surely that can't go wrong
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Can any one tell me where the UK community is lurking please? Looks like the warhammer forum has closed down now.
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>>53921479
>just reading my mind like that
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>>53921366
Mixed regiments are quite common as even Cadians are mixed in lore, just not in modelling. All female is rare and all male are common.
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>>53921455
Are the big meks hiding inside of the morkanaughts or are you trying to make a big blanket of 5++?
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>>53920917
It hurts to be mech guard knowing what happened to my tanks and that my guns stop firing if something stands in front of the barrel. I'll just have to adapt, be happy Conscripts are platoon-free and still 3ppm then wait for my FW Index to arrive to see if Lemans have any remaining value with turret weapons over 24".
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>>53921553
The Big Meks are in the Nauts, the Nauts are actually the models with the shields, giving themselves AND the boyz a yuge 5+ blanket
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>>53921510
And now Cadia is fucked. What did we learn about women in the military today boys and girls? That's right! Put women in your military and get your entire empire torn in 2.
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>>53921414

Not him, but he makes a good point about female commissars. There had to be a reason she's not a Sororitas since they're plucked from the same pool. I'd imagine that most of the Schola guardsmen would also be Sororitas as well, which would account for a chunk of female guardsmen. The fact that the Sororitas exist at all is actually a good reason for there being fewer guardsmen. It's not that there aren't women soldiers, it's that there's a specific place for women soldiers, who also get better gear and/or non combat roles that are far more important than a single guardswomen such as someone in the Ordo Hospitalar.
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>>53921594
I guess you managed to fit all those boyz under their 9 inch shield. Seeing as the entire unit needs to be under to get the invul save.

Sure everyone tried to kill the naughts first and either get swarmed by boyz or just mega punched.
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>>53921570
Yeah, Russes got tougher but man did they knock the teeth out of them.
The battlecannon was a decent anti-heavy infantry gun that was serviceable against light and medium armor. Now it's just kind of meh at every job. Not decent like a jack-of-all-trades should be, just meh.
And the exterminator auto cannon getting nerfed by caviat of losing twin-linked without getting the double shots makes it a shit option compared to other choices.
If you're not fielding Pask and/or tank commanders LRs just seem like balls. Tough but not a big enough threat to warrant being tough.
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>>53921139
I love Tzeentch mainly because I love magic, but I also love everything else he embodies. Scheming, deception, trickery, and insanity make me so giddy, and all the models in his army from the new Thousand Sons models to the Lord of Change are so wonderfully weird.

Change is beautiful my friends.
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Posting the list I made instead of having sex with people last Sunday. If it looks like it has weird choices, it's because it's built with nothing that can't be found in the average Codex-compliant 5th Company.

Is this list viable at 1850 point battles?
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>>53921595
Can't fight well against bad and hamfisted writing famalam.

I'd say a successful track record of 10,000 years is a pretty solid argument to the contrary. Hell they had to retcon the previous Black Crusades just to make it seem like old Abby wasn't constantly getting his teeth punched in by Cadia on a regular basis.
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>>53921636
Feels like the Russ is mostly paying for it's T8. They're less weapons platforms and more just damage soaks now.
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>>53918954
wrecked one in 2 turns with 20 gargoyles and a flyrant in melee so make of thazt what you will
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>>53921414
Iirc it's in a Ciaphas Cain book.
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>>53921628
with templates being gone, its very easy to march the boyz up around the walkers

The flier can shit on pretty much anything imo, the fucker puts out 18 str 6 -1ap shots on a 4+, I've had success plinking at any infantry that moves, and even vehicles aren't too safe from it's fury
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>>53921649
>just as plan
This bothers me to no end. It's like some fashionable Engrish words on slant t-shirts.
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>>53921628
also another thing to realize is those meks are healing d3 damage a turn guaranteed, nasty stuff
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>>53918954

I would say no since it's very expensive as is.
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>>53921595
I know quite a few girls that I serve alongside who'd have a very different opinion there.
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Hows this look for a starter list for Raven Guard? I just want it to be a basic force that can go into anything reasonably well, at least not get curbstomped.
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>>53921672
Sure but that is kind of the problem. You can almost ignore them now which ruins the point of being tough. They are not like a distraction carnifex that draw fire because if left alone is going to fuck something up. You would only ever focus one down in the off thane the IG player rolls really well instead of average.
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>>53921707
Why is a tac squad wandering around without a Rhino?
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Some questions about Ork
-Is there ever a reason you wouldn't take a squig hound on a runtherd? Without it I feel like they have gigantic morale issues.
-Is two Painboyz overkill? I think it's would make it easier for the boyz to be more spread out, but still.
-What should I look into for another HQ: Big Mek with KFF or a Weirdboy? I'm thinking a Weirdboy cause I have zero transports.
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>>53921710
Oh I agree, just saying that GW seems to think T8 is extremely powerful over T7, enough to justify their cost. Though I guess they also recognize they lack bite since their cost didn't go up as much as some other vehicles.

It feels weird considering I also play AdMech and Dunecrawlers with Neutron Lasers fuck shit up, have an invlun, and are still fairly survivable while being cheaper than a battle cannon Russ.
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>>53919309
facebook pages/groups, /r/miniswap, /r/yoyhammer.
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>>53921686
Personally I think it's just a jap who can't english.

Or maybe it's a small cog in the grand schemes of the Changer.
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>>53921723
couldn't afford it with the 2k cap, should I drop the librarian to get them one?
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>>53921366
The new Lemartes book has a female commisar present with the Mordian Iron Guard

Not that she is particularly needed in said book but she has a good effect on the commander (his actual title and name escape me)
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Anyone know a good recaster for SoB shit? I'm not looking for contact info, btw. I have a bunch.

The one I usually go to doesn't have repressors and his SoB minis are almost as expensive as GWs models. Z has repressors and $5 minis, but apparently his SoB minis are straight dog shit. CCoN just had a sale, so I'd like to not wait 6 months for an order. MI doesn't have any, so I can't even use her. Alpharius might, actually, but I'm 99% sure he doesn't have repressors.
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>>53921807
Doesn't Victoria have decent female guard models that aren't cheesecake?
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>>53919402
My Nids will be assisting in the downfall of Ultramar.
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>DI sold out across the city
>local shop owner sells me the stores display copy but wanted to keep the rule book for the store
>knocks the price of the book off the set
>DI for $120 maple bucks
>wife baits me into seeing MiL naked
today was a good day
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>>53921706
its almost like 40k is set in a fictional universe though
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>>53921636
What happened to the Exterminator is a crime, they were a common tank in my army and now I feel I need sponson weapons to make up for lost firepower. It makes me want to convert those guns into Lascannons to run Annihilators and hope I can find use in my Vanquishers through co-axials and Beast Hunter Shells.

Right now I feel like running only Pask and tank commanders due to the non-turret BS penalty on top of all this but its hard to justify the point cost on a tank that's already expensive with the upgrades I feel are necessary now.
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>>53921707
better question is why arent all of his dudes in jump packs or teleporting in?
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>>53919402
The Dark Eldar will take advantage of the chaos to dick over the imperium.
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>>53921355
my nigga
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>>53921914
christ what did you do to those poor marines
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>when you spend all day trying to homebrew cause your perfectionism and obsessive personality won't let you settle on a color scheme
>decide to play nova marines with lots of dreads
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>>53921595
>>53921885
>let me just draw conclusions about reality from my own inaccurate interpretation of a fictional setting
>heh, nice anecdotes kid.

If you're gonna /pol/ post outside of /pol/, at least raise the level of discourse to suit your new board.
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>>53921914
THICC
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>>53921873
Agreed fellow Archon!
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>>53921914
I dug up some models from at least 12 years ago at my parents house and they look like this.
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>>53921207
Throw a commissar head on an Elysian officer body, boom, fluff accurate Elysian Commissar.
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>>53921933
That's a completely greenstuff truescale marine i tried to make a year ago alongside one of my first models ever. I got a little better though and he's getting stripped for a 8th edition repaint.
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>>53921965
>hey buddy go back to r/feminism with your opinions that differ from my own
>but don't you dare assume my board of origin on the basis of my opinions

nice edit ;*)
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>>53921965
>>53921976
kys spergs
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>>53921965
I don't know or care what your arguing about, I just scrolled by and felt the need to do this to you
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>>53921873
>Lord Guiliman!
>We've come to swiftly remove your civilians from dangerous of the invasion
>cant have loyal citizens falling into the hands of chaos, can we?
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>>53921985
seconded
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>>53921139
>dark eldar

I like that they have no inhibitions, and are so fucking competent that they steal suns, hive fleets, and everything else in the galaxy. I also enjoy the cartoonishly evil nature of their exploits.

>sisters
I like that they're warriors whose faith is so strong they actually manifest miracles. I think agnosticism sucks, but I can't find a logical reason to believe one over the other. So that faith they have really appeals to me.

>Chaos
I like the nobler sides of the chaos gods: Acceptance, Hope, and Perfectionism. Their models are also really fucking cool.
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>>53919402
>whoever wins, we lose
I'm guessing they're banking on the xenos players fighting against the ultramarines, but I think that assumption is going to backfire.
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>>53922040
I'm going to playing as many game for chaos with my nids as I have time for.
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>>53922040
They must be, because they've rigged the contest for the ultramarines. IIRC you get points for just showing up with ultramarine models.
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>>53922058
It's points for "painted datasheets" (whatever that means) and double points for using a lot of the featured force organization slot of the week.
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>>53919402
On one hand, my Craftworld Eldar would in every situation throw their lot with the Imperium to stem each and every tide of chaos they encounter.

On the other hand...giving a boot to the Ultramarines sounds delicious.
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>>53922079
Forget about chaos brothers! Do what is fun and embrace your heritage. . Fuck the ultramarines!
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>>53922079
>On the other hand...giving a boot to the Ultramarines sounds delicious
Or you can do the Orky way, and have your wins go to both chaos and Ultramarines.
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This is Commander Anon calling from Four-Chan-Beta, cancel re-enforcements, all is lost here. Recomending total thread bombardment. We will take out as many as we can. Praise the Emperor
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>>53922070
Yeah, but one of the featured force org things is just "Space Marines". Tell me that's not blatant favouritism in this case.
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>>53922121
Fuck off, the thread isn't even at 400 yet. I'll make a new one once we hit either page 8 or 400 posts.
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>>53922128
I think it says space marines/start collecting units. that may mean just SPace marine start collecting boxes or it might mean all models that come in start collecting boxes. I'm not sure that's been clarified yet.
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>>53922079
>On the other hand...giving a boot to the Ultramarines sounds delicious.
I'll sacrifice your feeble soul to Ynnead if you dare.
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Hows this look for a swarm based list?
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>>53922129
im talking about the rtards whose argument over female commisars has spilled over into sjw and /pol/ shit. we need a purge
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>>53922181
fuck off we need revenge after the tyrranic war
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>>53922119
Once again brother we shall unite to remove the human scum.

May Khaine guide our path.
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>>53922194
You actually have to have a concept of revenge first.
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>>53922191
well they got told to kill themselves and it seemed to end so don't jinx it and just pretend it didn't happen
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>>53922191
NEW BREAD HERE
>>53922217
>>53922217
>>53922217
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>>53922210
we do, we're a fucking hivemind. Like a goddamn super computer.
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>>53922119
>>53922079
>>53922051
The imperium got their precious primarch back its time they were knocked down a peg or two
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>>53921139
>Tyranids
I've been a Tyranid player since my friend gave me the nids half of the maccrage set. They'll always be my favorite aesthetically, and gargoyles are my all-time favorite unit
>Genestealer Cults
Started them to expand my nids and have a second army after years of only having Tyranids. And holy fuck are they fun to play
>Tau
Picked them up on a whim with my new edition books after liquidating the last of my modern decks/cards. Only got the starter bix and a piranha, but I think they look like they're going to be a blast to paint at the very least. I fucking love mecha as well
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>>53919402
Serious question: why would anyone but Orks or Nids fight the imperium instead of chaos?
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>>53921706
POG
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>>53922298
At least I ain't no REMF
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>>53922292
Revenge for the countless atrocities they have committed against everybody in the galaxy?
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>>53922221
We're only on page 5 you nimrod. Nice job missing those quints btw
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>>53922194
Fuck me, they've learned how to shitpost.
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>>53922309
And in the process support Chaos. Seems a bit like shooting yourself in the foot if you care that much about atrocities.
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>>53922341
Well we're nids, and chaos noms just as well as ultramarine.
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>>53922361
If you're nids what do you care about atrocities? And last I checked daemons don't contribute much biomass.
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>>53921753
It sort of is, being the threshold hold for making a majority of small arms go from a 5 to 6, that being said still feels like they're a touch too expensive
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What is the strength of basic Tactical Marines that aren't Crusaders this edition anyway? Devastators shoot better, terminators and centurions assault better... what do these guys even do as the supposed bread and butter of their army?
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>>53922490
But do they do it better for the points?
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>>53921139
>Tau
First army back in 3rd. I like their shoot-n-scoot target priority game and combined arms style that I noticed kind of faded a bit. I still use XV15s.
>Space Marines
Started a homebrew chapter I quickly found out was Crimson Fists but white. So I went Fists and never looked back. Now there's almost a company and half of them are hand me downs and strip jobs. I'd do a big spearhead strike with a crusader with pedro with rhinos flanking, assault squad behind. Pedro's aura was bonkers and he could just blow kisses from the Crusader, and the more marines you took the better it was. Whirlwinds are probably my favorite unit, I love those guys. I am jealous of Griffons. I played mech like everyone in 5th, and I liked the almost naval playstyle it has. I do not miss razorback spam though.
>Orks
Black Reach was a hell of a deal man. Settled on Blood Axes with Kommandos and Koptas and Big Gunz and such. Modeling is my favorite thing about them, since I usually got my ass beat. Had my Warboss chew through 30 marines and a dread once. He's also died to an exploding objective.
>Dark Eldar
The new models were really cool at the time. I joined a frat and they fucked up my transports, so they're sitting until I figure out 8th. I liked their high speed and Do or Die playstyle.
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>>53922490
Primarily to be Jacks of all trades and support those with more specialist roles. For example, finishing off a mostly destroyed unit during the shooting phase or absorbing over watch fire for a dedicated assault unit.
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>>53918855
MIGRATION TIME:
>>53922831
>>53922831
>>53922831
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>>53921139
>Tau
Mechas, my man. Mechas*.
But also their futuristic, lean and clean lines; their ease to paint; their ranged focus with energy and missile weaponry; and their different take on the universe.

>Thousand Sons Legion
The fellas that brought me to warhammer. captivating background; psickery fuckery; nice color scheme; and different tactics and take on the Great Crusade

I have a sweet spot for Dark Angels, though. I might start an army in the future.

*curiously, the only weeb stuff I like are mechas and Saint Seiya. Never cared about other kinds of anime/manga. My weeb-est friend likes Blood Angels and Tyranids.
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