/wfg/ Warhammer Fantasy General

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Something stupid that's been bothering me: in 5th edition, the Bretonnian army book had a ton of special characters. But in 6th they got barely a fraction of those, with only a few new units to make up for it.

If the focus of Bretonnia was on having a ton of special characters, why not bring them into 6th and keep doing that? Or why not try to incorporate some of those characters into new units - imagine a unit that had the abilities of Tristan le Troubadour.

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>mfw a bretonnian mentions his "Military Heritage"

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>>53910350
empirefags cant even afford shoes

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>>53910350

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>>53910957

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>>53910350
>why

>>53910957
Replacing the 6th Ed ST with THIS was a fucking hatecrime.

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>>53911001
Why do you say that? I think they are bretty good

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>>53910998
Why not?

You know what codpieces are, right?
There is nothing inside

>>53910350
I wonder why they did that for the artillery crews, but none of the other Empire units.

>>53910294
All armybooks were like that. They were slimmer than the ones in the 4th and the 5th editions, so GW couldn't spare pages on special characters, especially since Warhammer players historically have been averse to their use. Old special characters for other armies had rules online though, I don't know why not Bretonnia. https://web.archive.org/web/20060621034708/http://uk.games-workshop.com:80/chronicles/special-characters/1/

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>>53909734
Kinda wish I'd gotten one of those FW fire dragons back in the day
I had no idea that Smaug was the same size, though

Anyhow, you guys have this thing happen to you, where you constantly try taking a different unit along with your army to hopefully see them perform, only to win or lose without them ever getting to perform?
This is the case with me and Wardancers, 3-4 games in a row now I've taken them, and each time I've arrow'd my enemy off the board before they even see combat or they eat cannonballs and junk until they all bite the dust

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>>53911421
Clipping
Pic unrelated.

>>53911511
This is some real interesting stuff - especially how Gotrek and Felix could join a Bretonnian army without penalty. I'm still somewhat surprised that they became so iconic and such long-lived characters, especially when their sister universe 40k doesn't really have anything like that.

Only guess I can make for the lack of Bretonnian characters is possibly that GW was trying to reinvent their lore and drop a few of the most chivalrous characters. Or GW didn't care, who knows?

>>53911511
>Vladmir von Raukol
That is a remarkable typo.

>>53908944
>Balrog could be made to work for any faction imo
IMO the whole fiery devil look make it scream Khorne, but with a bit of creative painting I can totally see it as Tzeentch aswell. Nurgle or Slaanesh doesn't seem that suitable to me though.

>>53890787
If anyone is interested I went with an edited take on this set up (exchanged Chaos Familiar for Banner of Swiftness on my Warriors witch also allowed my BSB to requip himself with Luckstone, Sword of Anti-Heroes, Dragonhelm and a shield).
My opponent fielded Greenskins. Even with a disastrous miscast early in the game wherein I lost 3/4 of the spells on my DP I managed to beat him quite handily, allthough truth be told his army wasn't particularly try hard in iis setup.
With that in mind I would love to hear what fun-rather-than-competitive WoC-army lists you guys have tried and/or recommend me to test out.

>>53911631
Yeah that's pretty much me in every game, except for the game I played today. In that one I got the complete opposite result. The units I usually field saw very little action while the new ones I wanted to test out saw quite a bit.

>>53911023

I like the 7th kit as well.

>>53911511

Are these for 6th edition?

Don't suppose anyone fancies compiling them into a document? If not I may do it later.

> 6th edition + ravening horde master race coming though.

>>53913524

Sounds good, how did the demon prince do? Also just a reminder that BSB can't take magic items.

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>when you notice that you can purchase 97 good quality 28mm scale models from a different manufacturer for the price of one squad of 10 iron breakers from GW

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>>53914542
What might it be that you're talking about

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>>53914440
BSB can take magic items as long as they don't also take a magical banner.

The DP did really good. He started off by spirit leeching an orc shaman to death. He and the Chimera then wrecked a large unit of Big 'Unz Savage Orcs. After that he easily tanked an Arachnaroch (killing the Goblin Shaman Lord that rode it) and a large unit of Black Orcs with an orc Lord untill my Trolls and Warriors blocks arrived to finish the job.

>>53914542

it was a warlords games deal

>>53911023
I read all of that in Dunc's voice. It was glorious.

Orcs and Goblins are currently the best faction in Warhammer TW, as well as being the best race currently in the game. If trends continue, this means Skaven will be the best faction in Warhammer 2?

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>>53915545
> Orcs and Goblins are currently the best faction in Warhammer TW
[citation needed]

Is there anywhere to check multiplayer win rates?

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KITA! 3 boxes of these Gors. The army grows.

>>53914337
They are for the 6th edition, yes.

>>53916260
Total War makes me want to build the minotaur heavy army I always wanted. Then I remember that time, not money, is my limiter now and forget about it. 6mm only.

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>>53910957
>organised blocks of halberdiers that didn't look chaotic on the battlefield died for this set

misery

>>53916449
nothing wrong with taking it slow

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>>53916449

> 6mm
> Anything below 10mm

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> When GW abandoning you actually leads to a Fantasy golden age.

My body is ready.

>>53916449
Minotaurs can be painted rather quickly if you aren't overly pedantic with your paintjobs.

>>53916762
I'm finally going to get an Empire army when Warlord releases these bad boys. Gonna have a huge block of pikemen.

>>53916824

I remember seeing them in 2014 when they were first sculpted by Progloria and I've waited ever since. I own about 50 of the 7th edition ones but if they fit with the great swords I may replace them with these.

Warlord will also probably sell them in boxes of 30 or 40.

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>>53916864
Well...

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>>53917093

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>>53916449
Minotaurs should be pretty fast to paint because of the larger surfaces requiring less fiddling around
i find it more fun as well.
The best time I had painting were my stone trolls, while stuff like glade guard make me want to rip my fucking testies off and grind them into a fine paste

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>>53916762
I'm curious as to the scale of these guys. And they are just halberd/pikes, No ranged weapons.
Pro Gloria did have some handguns sculpted though, and a bunch of extra heads/bodies. Hopefully if these sell well they'll consider doing another box.

In any case: fuck yes. This gun be gud.

>>53909734
>Smaug the "I weight two and a half pounds of resin" golden

I was trying to make an 8th edition Empire list (which is where things got bad when I think about it) so instead I made one for 9th age.

++ Empire of Sonnstahl (BS2.0 Empire of Sonnstahl) [1999pts] ++

+ Characters [276pts] +

Marshal [276pts]: Army General, Great Tactician [60pts], Shield [6pts]
. Magic Items [50pts]: Hero's Sword [40pts], Talisman of Shielding [10pts]

+ Core [978pts] +

Heavy Infantry [409pts]: 39x Heavy Infantry [390pts], Musician [20pts], Spear [39pts]

Light Infantry [228pts]: Champion [20pts], 12x Light Infantry [168pts], Musician [20pts], Replace Crossbow with Handgun, Standard Bearer [20pts]

State Militia (Paired Weapons) [156pts]: Champion [20pts], Musician [20pts], Standard Bearer [20pts], 12x State Militia [96pts]

State Militia (Ranged Weapons) [185pts]: Musician [20pts], Replace Paired Weapons with Bow [45pts], 15x State Militia [120pts]

+ Special [330pts] +

Knights of the Sun Griffon [330pts]: Champion [20pts], 3x Knight of the Sun Griffon [300pts], Replace Halberd with Lance and Shield [30pts]

+ Imperial Armoury [235pts] +

Artillery [235pts]: Volley Gun [235pts]

+ Imperial Auxillaries [180pts] +

Reiters [180pts]: Brace of Pistols [30pts], Light Armour, 5x Reiter [150pts]

++ Total: [1999pts] ++
Oh why must your Ottoman Janissary box be half musket half sword Warlord?

>picture of Citadel dragons
>has Smaug
>a wyvern

>>53919547
Most classical dragon depictions is of wyverns and Tolkien's dragons are as serpentine as those.
Not an excuse for Smaug since the fucker did have four legs and two wings, Jackson or WETA got lazy.

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>>53919547
>it's another "/tg/ doesn't know what makes a wyvern" episode
These are getting pretty tired. Did you know the word "wyvern" is derived from the word for viper? Because wyvern's primary heraldic identifier is its venomous, barbed tail. Arguing about wings with no regard for the barb makes you an idiot.

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>>53919615
>Most classical dragon depictions is of wyverns
No, they didn't have barbed tails. Just the same chicken walk shape.

>>53919877
Barbed tails do not make wyverns.

>>53919615
Movie Smaug was originally supposed to have two legs, but because Cumberbatch wanted to mocap him so bad in addition to voicing him that they redesigned the dragon to have four legs.

Any /wfrp/ lovers in the building?

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>>53919928
You're right. Barbed tails, serpent body, and dragon heads do. It's earliest mention (or inspiration), however, was literally just "dragons with venomous stingers" that Trajan's legions encountered in Dracia.

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A slann suddenly appears before you, /wfg/. It tells you with its toady mind-waves that you will be teleported into the world of Warhammer, but you have the choice of what sort of mortal being you can be when you get there. Norseman, Bretonnian, Dark Elf, Beastman, Snotling; so long as it's mortal (or at least starts off mortal), you can choose it.

What do you pick?

>>53919858
I remember on /v/ before Skryimn was released threads kept popping up about people screaming, "Their WYVERNS NOT DRAGONS!" Bunch of nonsense.

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>>53920755
>Their

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>>53920755
In the naysayer's defence (not that most of them even knew), but most of the dragon models in Skyrim have what look like barbed stingers.

In Bethesda's defence, this design for dragons has been in the game since practically the beginning, all the way down to the barbed-looking tails. I don't know what game introduced the Imperial Seal, but it was plastered on Morrowind's cover, so it's been around for awhile.

>>53918550
cannot help anon, I do know 8th ed rules though, which would consist of you taking a tank, 2 cannons. A big wiz(pref lore of life for healing tank, though light works too)
then a big block of infantry and the rest is up to you/

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So some /twg/ twat saw the campaign demo at e3 (the one we're getting tommorow) and he mentions there being a rogue army (basically NPC armies with no race restrictions and a unique theme) that's a dark, twisted, and corrupted treeman in Lustria. Is this new lore?

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>>53909734
Fuck off dragons

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>>53921374
as I said in the total war general anon, it's fairly legit.
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Coeddil

is the big bad in the woods for example.

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>>53921476
>>53921374
to expand on this, read this
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Cythral

it's tree prison. makes sense considering the tree spirits can travel across the world via the worldroots not ALL of them are stuck there.

>>53918550

Looks good to me, I would maybe think about upping those state militia to halberds or something though to give them some bite, I assume they're there to support the spear block?

>>53918303

They should fit with GW stuff well as Warlord use the same heroic scale with slightly larger hands and heads.

They have a large landsknecht collection already in metal, the handgunners may just stay in metal.

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>>53921627
The militia is just to squeeze use out of these guys, who should be imperial guard but I just don't have the points.
I still don't know why battle scribe flipped a tit for the 8th list.

>>53920660
I would say Imperial or Dwarf, but my life would probably be really shitty and not comfy.

Honestly, I would pick either Lizardman (preferably Saurus or Kroxigor) or Orc (preferably Black Orc or Savage Orc) because at least with Lizardmen they're more-or-less organic robots that don't give a shit, and with Orcs I'm gonna be bound to enjoy fighting even if I charge into certain death due to Orc mentality.

>>53920660
I would guess being an elf in Athel Loren would still be the most comfy, secure and yet "fun" life you can get.

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>>53922389
>buying into the NEET elves meme

>>53922414
/vg/ please go.

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>>53920660
Bretonnian noble means that I get to live a fairly comfy life with not!slavery taking care of most of my needs - as long as I'm military competent and chivalrous, I'll be fine. I can even import stuff from other lands if I get tired of the stock medieval life and want some variety.

I'd say Dark Elf because they have such a strange and interesting society of backstabbing and advancement from lows to highs, but it's also very confusing and I'd probably die quick just trying to figure out what rung I'm on.

>>53915545
>>53916144
yeah, I'd like some more info on this too

of all the factions I have the least success with OanG consistently

I would like to live as a skink. They seem to live decent lives, being fairly high up on the Lizardmen totem poll. I could boss around Kroxigor's and Saraus to build temples.

>>53922482
>as long as I'm military competent
You are Bretonnian.

>>53922431
we run this general

>>53920660

Halfling, merry in the Moot, far from trouble.

>>53922555

I'd rather be a dwarf, hate my inferior and treacherous neighbors, drink fine brews and play rousing games of "shoot the flying greenskin head" in the great hall with the lads, kill elves.

Bloody paradise.

>>53922431
No, you go. Only the filthy waifufags and hentaifags at /vg/ would ever believe in the "Wood Elf super comfy 2D anime NEET life" meme.

>>53922583
Well, at least it's not complex - ride on the horse, point the stick, skewer the Orc or Beastman, make sure the peasants are somewhere in there so the enemy can't run away.

>>53923269
You apparently know more about these threads than me.

>>53920755
This board is full of autists from the GitP forums who think Dungeons & Dragons decides what a dragon and a wyvern are.

>>53923291
My sweet summer child.

>>53913232
Yeah, take smelter demon from Dark Souls. Make him blue and bam, Tzeentchian cool ranch flavor.

>>53919939
We're a small but vicious demographic of the thread!

>>53919988
>that Trajan's legions encountered in Dracia.
Tell me more and/or give me some sources please!

>>53923269
They are 2d anime neets, being a redneck with a shotgun that shoots on sight is just part of life and not really a job.
As for comfy, elves are weird. Maybe they find living in a magical realm full death and dickery to be comfy.

>>53925481
Isn't most of the dickery only for outsiders? Well, there is death, but it's not like the rest of the world is such a peaceful place.

>>53925549
Most other civilized people won't just shoot on sight. Unless you're a beastman, in which case you deserved it.

>>53925606
>Unless you're a beastman, in which case you deserved it.
wow, okay. rude.

>>53925606
Well, this question isn't about that you get shot, but if it would be comfy to be on the side that shoots.

>>53925669
If the wood elves find living in a magical realm of harmful spirits, several necromancer bullseyes, and an even worse magical realm to the south full of trees that want to kill them to be comfy that's on them.
Elves have never made much sense anyway.

>>53925715
The wood elves may not be okay with all the shit down there, but they made the conscious decision to stay in these forests and say fuck you to the rest of the world, except when they go out to fuck around in it.

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Ulthuan and Lustria fly-over:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PtX_tJdBU4

>>53926321

>blue light beam that shoots up

like pottery

>>53913695
Flashbacks of blood knights getting completely destroyed by an absurd canon shot on turn 1.

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>>53926321
Imagine living in Ulthuan
>waku up
>vortex is awfully bright today
>shut curtains

a-are they phasing out the hammerers and ironbreakers?

>>53926889
Its such a new sculpt that they might just re-package them for AoS

>>53926889

They're being reboxed.

>>53927334
>>53927379

Going to get some, just incase, you know.
Can never be sure anymore .

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>>53926321
Lost Legion confirmed

>>53927701

Ahhhh yis.

>>53916260

You must have quite a bit of stuff now, any army lists?

>>53927701
Fuck yak!

>>53927701
I think this confirms that dogs of war will be a faction later on.

>>53927701
a shame the vampirates have generic lords, however that's what reskins are for.

>>53926321

> All that realistic geography and beautiful architecture.

How can age of shill even compete.

>>53926321
Dark Elves at 2:02-2:04. Looks like Hag Graef.

>>53927701
The race pack will be Norsca and dlc down the line will have Dogs of War as a new faction. Will fit in with the Rogue Armies as well.

>>53914637
I miss her

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>>53926889

>>53928607
Oh, i see. Well at least they are just getting bland new packaging

>>53929071
Circle bases too.

>>53929247

I thought you get both as both are legal for skubmar?

>>53929366
No, they only pack them with circles.

>>53909734

Anyone know where the large glarauch model is from?

>>53929620
Warhammer Forge (RIP)

>>53929620
Forgeworld

>>53927846
I don't have anything more than 10 ungors assembled and painted but I've been proxying for a while now.

I don't have army lists in a format I can post at the moment, and I'm still experimenting with making bestigors work versus a giant block of gors and a lot of special/rare flankers. Not being able to take marks of chaos kind of sucks.

>>53929390

why would I want to move around a bagillion individual models when they are neatly queued onto a block?

>>53929390
:(

>>53930235
this

>>53909734
Ottr steps out.

>>53928522
Who?

>>53932311
Kerillian, I assume he means.

Does anyone have that yuri moment in the Warhammer online trailer in gif format?

>>53932311
>>53931293
Yeah Kerillian. That game was fun, even if it was just left 4 dead.

>>53932403
It still exists though, right? I'm pretty sure they just came out with a DLC recently.

>>53932432
They came out with one dlc yeah. The game is still alive and I can usually find at least a handful of people on ps4. So I guess it isn't actually that dead.

>>53932570
Oh, you play on console.

There are a bunch of DLCs, dude, free and paid. The Stromfels one even added a real boss, and he's a hoot.

>>53932633
Ah fuck me then. I dont know why I wasn't paying attention. I'll have to grab them.

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>tfw no chance they'll be in Total Warhammer

>>53933844
>>53927925

ASININE MORTAL

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>>53933968
That's the Lost Legion, not Leopold's Leopards.

>>53933844
>>53934003
A Dogs of War dlc is very likely due to CA allowing minor factions to be playable (I believe Norsca is coming soon). I would expect Regiments of Renown alongside basic mercenaries in that Ravening Hordes update.

Araby has a high chance of becoming a faction as well.

>>53934003

If they have Pizzaro in they're bound to have the others in.

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>>53930070
>>53927846
Excel pic of my most recent list since I don't have Army Builder and battlescribe is not great

>Beastlord
The Brass Cleaver (+1A per model in base contact); Ramhorn Helm (1 bonus attack for each armor save); Talisman of Endurance; Potion of Foolhardiness; Many-Limbed Fiend; Razorgor Chariot

>GBS
Dispel Scroll; Talisman of Protection; Gnarled Hide; Crown of Command

>Wargor
BSB; The Beast Banner (+1S to unit)

1999/2000 points

>>53909734
Not quite sure who to reply to here, but...
Trying to decide where to take a WHFRP caster. I've ruled out playing hedge and lore wizards, so I'm trying to pick whether I want to play a priest or one of the witch lores. Most interesting priests to me are ulric and Myrmidia, though I worry about having a huge lack of versatility. Anyone got something to add -- are there any lores that are just flat out better than others that I haven't noticed?

Are there any notable worshipers of Manaan in the setting? Aside from Alberic.

>>53940269
Marienburg is the center of the cult of Manaan, and thus its highest priests and matriarch are from there, and it's prominent in Nordland as well - it's more than likely its Elector Count has to give the cult a fair bit of respect, even if he's a Sigmarite (which is not made known). Aside from a prominent priestess in Erengrad, I don't know any notable worshipers of Manaan.

What do you do with summoned demons in Geheimnisnacht mod? I thought they could be commanders, but I guess not. Are they supposed to be counsellors? The demons I'm getting are rarely, if ever superior to the counsellors I already have, even when they are specialized for the position. Then again, the bulk of my demons so far were summoned through peasant leaders. Playing as Witch King, btw.

>>53936373

Looks good to me, I would maybe try and find some more protection for your BSB if you can though.

Also I would swap the Cygor for a Ghorgon, same model but he doesn't throw rocks, he's too expensive for a rock lobber.

>>53941222
cygor's are alright, definitely not as good as Ghorgons but they're usable. They can move and shoot as needed until they're in the flank or rear for a charge.

>>53941267

It's quite a nice kit actually I didn't know it was plastic, it would make a good chaos giant.

>>53942188
Oooh, neat stuff. What is that from?

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>>53942188
>Vanquished Dwarfs
>That's a Grudging.

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>>53909734
What does chaos (specifically Khorne and the followers of Khorne) think when some random, mortal Imperial Knight kills one of their chosen champions? Are they annoyed? Do they respect the knight? Do they brush it off and assume that champion wasn't as worthy as he claimed to be since he got killed by a mortal?

>>53942400
Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, just that it flows.

So yeah, likely some respect and then a mad dash to try and murder him and thus prove themselves even better than the block who topped the Warboss.

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>>53942188
Is there a similar chart for empire and high elven heraldry?

>>53925549
eh not really
dryads are the pure will of the forrest itself. howerver the forrest is tired of everyones shit and so dryads are al malicious as the dark elves. using mermaid singing to lure you and proceeding to rip your face of. Or lure you to a set up "prank" that wil result in insanity points and copious amounts of blood. dryads don't give a shit about the elves so i highly doubt they are spared from their pranks.

>>53925549
>>53942998

the branchwraihts are pissed at the elves for being reduced to treeman cocksucker from rulers of the forrest. they hope the elves just die off so everything will be as it should be.

>>53925549
>>53942998
>>53943076

a treekin has the sprit of a dead elf with memory loss. So are they usually just quietly sobbing unless there is a wild hunt. (there is one named charackter that retains his memories).
So no problems with the elves.

Treeman = treebeard

Treeman ancients are always sleeping and wake up in dire time to wreck some shit.

>>53930235

Because you're no longer moving around that many models and ranks are seemingly shit in AoS.

>>53942310
not that anon but reverse image suggests bretonnian 5e army book. (the link was dead however)

>>53942666
There's one that is mostly Imperial in Old World Armor.

>>53942400
Depends on the followers in question and how deeply they've sunk into the mire of Chaos.

>>53942400
They probably gather more champions to kill him as he is obviously a great champion and so his skull will make a nice addition to Khorne's collection

>>53942400
There's literally a story in the 8th ed Daemons book about two Bloodletters challenging one another to battle and taking their respective legions into the Material Realm. They happen to land in Bretonnia. and so their battle is interrupted not long after they get there by a Bretonnian warhost. The daemons buttfuck the Brets and the horse of the leader guy gets spooked and runs off, much to his dismay.

The daemons resume their battle, and eventually all but the Bloodletters are left, having killed themselves off. As they clash, however, the Bretonnian guy returns, having managed to regain control of his horse, and kills -both- the Greater Daemons in what can only be described as "DAEMONS GET OFF MY LAND REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".

Khorne, who had taken notice of the battle between his Bloodletters, finds this fucking hilarious/amazing and is suitably impressed, and immediately turns the Bretonnian man into a Daemon Prince.

>>53944322
That's just a dick move.

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>>53944899
>literal god grants you immortality for being a badass
>dick move

>>53944932
Becoming a daemon prince annihilate the person you were before.

>>53944322
Fuck me I'm retarded, I kept putting "Bloodletter" and not "Bloodthirster".

>>53945114
Daemon princes keep their personality. The only difference in the noble, if any, would be that he's stuck in the state of anger he was in when he killed the Bloodthirsters.

>>53944932
>turns you into a rage monster for eternity
>not a dick move

>>53942400
They would respect the knight and admire his combat prowess. Thus they would also strive towards killing him since bringing him down would make them more noticeable to their Divine Patron. Khornates respect and follows martial capabilities so I wouldn't be surprised if they started following the knight's orders (atleast untill they got a chance to honorably kill him themselves) if the Knight had the insight into the mind of a Khornate loony to actually try giving orders to them.

>>53944899
In the mind of Khorne and any khornate that's the most benevolent thing anyone can do to a mortal.

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Speaking of Khornate Daemon Princes, shouldn't Valkia the Bloody qualify as one?

>>53945706
Ask GW's writers. Sometimes people become normal daemons, sometimes they become greater daemons, sometimes they become princes. They don't seem to have ever actually settled on what people can and cannot become.

>>53944322
Why don't the chaos gods just turn everyone into daemons? They would win immediately.

Why haven't they turned Archaon into a daemon prince despite his achievements being greater than that duke's?

If Archaon resists by strength of will alone like Abaddon, why wasn't the chaos-hating duke able to resist?

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>>53945963

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>>53926321
>random dorf colony in the middle of lustria

I defended them for giving Tobaro to Estalia.
I defended them for inventing the Armored Chaos Troll.
I even defended them when they shoehorned in peasant foot squires into the fluff.

But this... I can't.

CA has obviously given up on this dead universe. Guess it's time... to guy buy some Age of Sigmar figures...

>>53943314

I see, so this is their solution to the general audience seeing their products as too expensive now that a pack of ten guys is $50 and a single model goes for $20

>>53946098
Speak not the name of Skub in this place.

>>53946098
>I even defended them when they shoehorned in peasant foot squires into the fluff.
5th ed Bretonnians had 'em.

What do you guys think of the MP scene from Total warhams?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPTqJUihFPg


>>53946098
>not wanting to GRUDGE the lizardpeople for destroying dwarfdom

>>53946321

Who's done what to dwarfdom now?

>>53946098

He's obviously never read 2nd edition The Magnificent Sven.

>>53946098
Where do they show up? I can't see them. Even then, you should be more mad that there are Orcs there.

>>53946287
Those were different than the Foot Squires in Total Warhammer and you know it. They just took advantage of a title existing for a unit they wanted to include.

>>53920660
So not vampire?

Because fuck Chaos.

>>53923036
Also no bathing despite being caked in dirt, grease, and gunpowder.
Other than booze luxuries are scarce, even kings eat shitty hard tack and goat meat.

Unless you can aim to be a Runesmith, you're very low on the totem pole of complex iron bound oaths and responsibilities too.

>>53928607
Hopefully cheaper. I'd get a Start Collecting for Dwarfs so long as it had none of the shitty Slayer fyrefanboys in it.

>>53947149
>or at least starts off mortal
I was trying to exclude daemons only since they don't really live in the world.

>>53946098
Fuck off, that's oldhammer lore.

Sven Hasslefreesian, the Dwarf who invented internal combustion engines and blew up a large part of Karaz-A-Karak, settled a colony there because he was banished and becoming a Slayer means admitting he was wrong.

Also, if you have Warhammer you already have AoS. Not even AoSfags like Sigmarines.

>>53946690
Lizardmen suddenly decided to reinterpret the golden plates and finish shaping the homeland of the Dwarfs halfway through history via earthquakes.

This destroyed their underground highway and many Holds, allowing greenskins and Skaven to swarm in without supply routes and reinforcements which caused Dwarfs to lose most of their empire and the greenskin/Skaven population to explode enough for the races to become relevant in the setting. This came right at the end of the War Of Vengeance/the Beard so Dwarfs were so diminished they labeled it the Time Of Woe and stopped taking any form of recorded history including Grudges. It ended Dwarf supremacy in the Old World and resulted in massive gains for the evil factions leading directly to End Times.

Lizardmen gave no fucks because they think it was maybe sorta part of the Old Ones plan and Dwarfs don't know they caused it.

>>53947465
>Also, if you have Warhammer you already have AoS.
What if he plays Tomb Kings

>>53947604
They do have rules and exist in continuity, its just they don't sell their models anymore because they fucking suck.

I'm not an AoSfag, but there's enough to hate without lying.
Hell, you can't even really hate the game anymore since the new rules aren't bad. Warmahordes tier.

Its just that the setting and most new models are fucking garbage for shitbadgers.

>>53947651
To clarify the "they" in "they fucking suck" refers to GW, not TK.

>>53947651
Warmahordes has the best tabletop rules and Sigmar has the worst.

>>53947560

I don't like this "story" direction at all

>>53947651
I thought I remembered the AoS gits saying something about how their rules are no longer viable these days when I dipped into one of their generals.

>>53947784
Warmahordes is mediocre.

Its competitive, but that's the only good thing that can be said about it.

Like CoD or Starcraft 2, flashy comp games that fail in most other respects.

>>53947818
Anon, that's really old lore. About 20 years old or so.
>>53947996
Compfags complain about massive power creep in the game. Basically the same as 40k, new kids and posterboys get the best toys.

>>53920660
High Elf all the way and I'll try not to get tempted by Slaamesh

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I did everything I could. I reread all the lexicanum pages. I covered my floor in tiny square bases. I even repainted one of my old Pygmy models.

Nothing can dull the pain from the dagger that Creative Assembly drove into my back.

Well if they can just bend the fluff and insert Dwarfs into Lustria I'm inserting this one into my personal book of grudges. Warhammer Fantasy is now officially dead. I've already ordered 6 offical AoS™ Seraphon™ Streggosuars™. Painting them will go nicely with the 6 bottles of Sephrolax™ I'll need to chug to make me forget this betrayal.

>>53945963
Pretty much >>53945987 yeah.

DESU I wouldn't have minded another special character Daemon Prince with a decent backstory. I'd even love to have a Chaos version of Hercules thrown in there for good measure.

What should I use to dissolve super glue? Put too much glue on a mini and it globbed up, just want to dissolve the glue and start over.

>>53947281
The release of a start collecting-box for (proper) Dwarfs might actually lead me to start a Dwarf Army. I can't lie. I've been eyeing them for a while.
t. Mono Nurgle.

>>53948458
I'm not sure what you're trying to do.

This is neither funny nor convincing. Your post seems to exist merely to exist.

4/10, was inoffensive.

>>53947465
Got any lore on him? I've tried searching him up, and nothing comes of it aside from some vague forum posts and such.

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>hire guy
>he dies instantly
>captain and best man die too
>stuck with 2 archers and 2 halberdiers and no money
>this guy happens and now I'm winning
>blow money on handgun
>captain still can't get higher than 20% despite being bs 44
If only it were an actual game.

>>53947465
>even aosfags don't like Sigmarines
Yes, and space marines in 40k are seldom played.

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>>53948599
The Magnificent Sven in the OP.

He is also mentioned here and there in pre-7e Dwarfs supplements.

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sven_Hasselfriesian

Pic related it his model.

>>53948735
AoSfags hate Sigmarines because they are bland and get all the lore.

Check their threads when something new is announced and its just Sigmarines and Khorne again.

>>53948735
the fuck is that

>>53948762
Sven art.

As for why he exists, recall that most of the early GW staff were historians. The buzz at the time was "Viking ruins, coins discovered in Canada!"

So they put Norscans and the Dwarfs everywhere to mimic this.

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>>53948831
Forgot pic. 1984.

>>53948808
Mordheim mobage.
Essentially it's a halberdier with 3 attacks.

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>>53948831
>most of the early GW staff were historians
Better days.

>>53948084

I somehow interpreted that as something in addition to the earthquakes they already suffered

I haven't been closely following contemporary fluff

Oh, Man O'War Corsair updated with a Nurgle campaign.

I guess it's time to reinstall it and see if it's still a buggy mess again.

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>>53948900
After the Malal incident they fired the heads of the old guard and replaced them with fanboys, with the rest of the old timers silently dropping off.

Basically what happened to Marvel comics. Gav Thorpe is Bendes, Matt Ward is Slott.

>>53948952
>the Malal incident
please tell me more. I have not heard of it before.

>>53948952
Isn't most of the Gav hate over his "Eh, it's playable" army books and codexes? Well, that and the seperating chaos stuff, but I've never taken problem with that... I had (still have, actually) the 3rd ed and 4th ed Chaos Marines books and I wasn't particularly offended by the 4th ed one.

I read Shadow King as well, and though it's been a while since then, I dug it at the time and it's still the reason why I like Alith Anar and recoiled in horror at how things went with him in End Times .

>>53949003
GW, more specifically the head of the company at the time Bryan Ansell, wanted a fifth Chaos God all along. He was supposed to be in Realm Of Chaos which introduced what we know of as Warhammer Chaos.

The guys who wrote Judge Dredd were friendly with Ansell thanks to Citadel making Dredd minis, so he asked them to write Malal. Since Realm Of Chaos turned out to be a huge undertaking they cut Malal from it so the writers anf artists could focus on getting it out by splitting it into two books, then getting them to clear out the backlog on WFRP and proto-Necromunda, then come back and add Malal.

The problem is a lot of the team had become part-timers either because GW was cheap or because the various GW sub companies like Citadel and Flame Productions were treated like different companies so doing fulltime at both was legally two halftime jobs.

Halftimers own what they create after a certain amount of time under UK law. GW did not know this.

On the eve of Malal models being released the Dredd guys decided to stop working together and got to deciding who owned Malal, which is how GW found out that almost their entire range and a LOT of their IP belonged to the employees, not them.

They panicked and fired everyone, then restructured in a very corporate way which not only paved the way for Kirby to take over but also alienated the greatest of the old creators like the Perrys. They also had to change the look of everything just enough to continue selling it legally, just like how companies like Chapterhouse fuck them over today.

>>53949201
Gav writes shit rules for 40k, and shit lore for Fantasy.

The only good thing Gav did for Fantasy was his work on the Dwarfs book Grudgelore. The rest was mediocre to absolute garbage.

End Times non-novels is indeed mostly Thorpe writing, and he steered the whole ship. Even if the result was always going to be a wreck we hate Thorpe for how badly he steered us into it the whole way.

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>>53948458
>bend the fluff and insert Dwarfs into Lustria
Umm try again sweetie
All races are present in Lustria in the fluff

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>>53948855

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>>53949269

>>53949450

It's almost as if the art of writing is subjective or something... IDK...

>>53949450
Point out something Gav wrote for Fantasy that wasn't Dwarfs and wasn't terrible.

Protip: you can't.

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>>53949504
I already did though.

>>53949585
Okay, fair enough.

Bulk of his work is still pretty bad though.

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would it be acceptable for me to use this model as a bretonnian lord on a hippogryph since the two units have similar stats

>>53949750
>Bulk of his work is still pretty bad though.
To be fair the bulk of BL books are pretty bad.

I can probably count the really good books I read from the over the years on one hand.

Disclaimer: Just jumping in here, not the guy you were arguing with.

I agree that some of Gav's writing was pretty awful beyond what is usual though.

>>53949836
No.
Give Franz his proper respects.
In all seriousness I see why not, go ahead

>>53949915
It lets him have a Karl on foot.

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>>53949836

>>53949750
Admittadly beyond the Sundering series and the Chaos Marines book there isn't a lot I can attest to. I'm not going to argue with you since I haven't read all his work, and I get the sense you haven't either, but I find him inoffensive at worst and "eh, he's alright" at best. No one to go crazy over, no one to get your panties in a knot about.

Although, if he wrote a whole fucking book about how Alith Anar looses his mother, father, family friends, servants, fiance, grandmother, grandfather, the majority of his family's land, subjects and holdings (not to mention those lands being blown the fuck up at the end) to Malekith and his mother, as well as indirrectly causing him to loose a second fiance, a fuckbuddy and more close friends, all of which drives him into being the creator of the "Fuck Dark Elves" faction and a semi-mythical being that shows up only to murder dark elves and fuck over Malekith and his mother, only for him to then have Alith slap Malekith on the wrist and say "Don't do it again" during the end times, I will not only completely change my opinion but eat my own fucking foot

>>53949210
Fascinating story. I wonder what might have been had that not happened?

>>53945963
The first ever chosen, Bel'Akor, thought himself equal to the gods after being ascended to Demon Prince, that's why no other Everchosen has been turned into one (although it can still happen with the Eye of the Gods)

>>53950336
We would have missed the golden age.

Previously GW lacked a clear organized leadership.

The firing wasn't immediate, and having the execs in the face of the creative teams really did unite the vision which culminated in 6e.

The event was like getting on a rollercoaster for quality. Slow climb for about fifteen years, then WEEEEEE its over.

>>53949269
Thorpe didn't write the End Times, the studio did. He was only the loremaster during the 6th edition and Storm of Chaos. He's worst moment was GRIMGOR IZ DA BEST.

>>53949836
I wouldn't let even an Empire payer use that abomination.

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>>53951163
>GRIMGOR IZ DA BEST
>worst moment

>>53951355
It was absolutely stupid, like something out of 40k.

>>53951398
Fitting, because doing an event about Chaos destroying the world is stupid to do in Fantasy in the first place.

Albion da best.

>>53951433
Chaos didn't destroy the world nor was it Archaon's objective in the first place.

>>53949210
Holy fuck. I wasn't aware of that. How incompetent was GW (back in the day) to not understand this huge trap that they set up for themselves?

>>53951559
They were just a bunch of guys who wanted to make nerd shit man

>>53951559
Seems like karmic payback for trying to screw their employees.

>>53951559
GW grew ridiculously fast and large in a very small industry, basically expanding to fill the room then making the room bigger to fit in while crushing the competition both intentionally and unintentionally.

Until Kirby, it was run by guys who loved miniatures and knew what they wanted, but had mediocre business sense. They took risks nobody else did previously and made it work, but also failed to grasp basic business concepts in other areas.

Look at how it started. Three nerds in an apartment tricked four nerds in an apartment into thinking they were a big company to get all distribution rights to a shitload of tabletop games. Two of those guys lived in the first GW office and snuck into a health club to shower.

They put the kid in the mail room in charge of making games since it seemed like he had good ideas, and he spit out both Warhammers.

They poached some of the best guys in the nerd culture of the UK just by letting them do whatever they want, and made it go international.

Those two guys also could not into organization, so they went "fuck it" and put the eccentric guy they had working on Warhammer in charge of the company even though they were in the middle of firing him, then went "fuck it" again and sold it all to him. This dude took every risk and made it all work, but could not into copyright or IP protection and when shit got too complicated for him he drug more and more investors in, then pawned it all off on one of them. That guy fucking sucked and used the company like his piggy bank until today when he pawned off leadership to an investor who seemed mildly interested in the story rather than just finances like the rest of them.

GW is one long story of idiot savants in terms or business, with one just plain idiot in between.

>>53943314

They still expect Goblins and Skaven to shuffle hundreds of models around.

>>53953008
Git gud.

>>53948536

You can't dissolve super glue unfortunately, all you can do is use a scalpel blade to take off the excess.

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>>53948536
use a glue with a good applicator I use this one as it is very easy to put small amounts of glue with precision out.

>>53951763

too bad now they only make SHIT

>>53936636
Still looking for an answer here -- would a Myrmidian be too weird for a Mordheim-era game? Would a female Ulrican be Lore-unfriendly?

>>53953397
You kidding?

Perry Miniatures is great.

>>53953421
Don't the Mordheim Empire in the vidya use her as their shrine instead of Sigmar?

>>53953450
Never played the Mordheim vidya. But Sigmar and Ulric sided with specific factions, and Myrmidia didn't choose sides, so maybe?

>>53953470
I think the Ulric priest can be hired by any non-evil faction while the evil ones get the Skaven Globadier as a merc.

>>53951826

It was hardly them taking advantage of their employees, they were writing all this stuff on GW's time and money.

>>53953615
Funny thing is that most of them had company loyalty.
Even though Ackland owned most of Chaos other than the names of things and the Chaos Gods themselves, he offered to sell it all to them in exchange for stock so he could stay. He was there from the very beginning of Warhammer making its own stuff, he was the neckiest beard in the staff and to this day is proud of what he created there and where the company was.

But instead they redesigned everything and basically shoved him in a closet until he quit, then put out a public statement telling him and the other original artists to go collect all their original artwork once GW's right to use it ran out or they'd be picking it all out of the dumpster.

GW was fucked by circumstance and a fight between two famous creators they had taken a dumb risk on commissioning, which hardened them so they fucked everyone else from that point onwards.

The biggest irony is Chapterhouse. Games Workshop Daemons are just them basically stealing someone else's concepts and changing it just a little bit so they can't be sued, and are now the center of an entire industry leeching off their sales in the exact same way. To say nothing of Warcraft and Starcraft.
THAT is karma.

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>>53948536
I use this for metal miniatures. It's not suitable for plastic because it melts it. I haven't tested it on resin either.

>>53951398
It was good because it humiliated Archaon, which was necessary since Chaos lost so badly so often that if GW had had any integrity they would have had him die in Kislev or at least piss himself screaming for mercy before being hammered by Valten.

>>53951834
Engineers create, managers destroy.

>>53946098
Look at the Spine of Sotek of the Lustria map, there is a place called the 'Mine of the Bearded Skulls' to the left of it. This could be nothing else but a Dwarf Hold. The name implies that the Dwarfs there are dead but they will be alive for the game (game starts in 2502 and the map 2522 so they must have been destroyed by Lizardmen between then).

>>53954023
It was not good, because it was completely out of character for Grimgor, it didn't fit the dark tone of the universe and it betrayed everyone who expected the results of the campaign to actually matter.

>>53954045
Lucky for them that Ansell was both.

>Guys! What if South America was full of Mexican frog wizards?
>What if Orcs had green skin and tusks?
>What if we had demons that got stronger when people feel things?

>Copyright? What me worry!

>>53954152
Agreed.

He should have beheaded Archaon, looted Ghal Maraz and kicked Valten a few times, then wandered off to WAAAGH eastwards since the west was krumped.

Assuming Archaos died in Kislev like he should have, what would have happened?
Tomb Kings was the army that crossed the finish line, right?

Well I have 6 greatsword left to paint, 4 of them 'scrubswords' isn't old empire swordsman body and legs. And I decided to do all 4 at once. Why do people paint that many and more at once. It's just frustrating and makes me want to scream

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>>53954216
>7 ASF hits, probably with re-rolls, that do auto d3 wounds each
>strength 7 so -4 to your save

>>53954570
I didn't say duel him.

I said behead him.

One swing, from behind, while he was too autistically focused on Valten to notice.

Because when the Chaos Gods blinked, Gork flipped the table of the Great Game and sent the minis flying into the chip bowl while spilling Mountain Dew in Tzeentch's lap.

>>53954634
No, that would be Grimgor with Skullsplitter and Gitsnikk.

>>53951129

>6th
>golden age

>>53953426


oh, I meant GW

>>53951834
This whole thing reads like a cautionary tale for why you should let people specialize.

>>53954132

Doubt it, bearded skulls implies they have a pile of Dwarf skulls, more likely to be Goblins or Skaven.

Dwarfs will be in Lustria though, they have been since 2nd edition with Sven.

>>53954978
I know.
Its just a joke since the nerdy guys who kade GW run well all went and started other successful projects.
Like if all the original chefs at the first McDonalds went and ran popular restaraunts while the main chain that axed them was stuck as a cheap joke despite being profitable.

anybody have tips for removing excess sprue? I have a hobby knife and file set but it takes me forever to clean up a miniature. I also have a hard time holding the miniature (specifically on heads and arms) and not cutting my fingers in the process

>>53956925
How much excess sprue are we talking? If it's large enough, it's okay to clip it off so that it's easier to file down what's left.

>>53957085
i should probably get some smaller clippers. been using wire cutters lol

>>53957164
If they're small wire cutters, it's probably not too bad. I've been using the kind people use for guitar strings myself.

>>53957164

Clippers are the one thing I would recommend getting from GW as they last forever and they're the right shape.

Have any of you lads bought anything of black market miniatures? They made recasts of OOP stuff, I was wondering what the quality was like? Shame they only have a small selection of Fantasy stuff.

>>53949284
What is this and should I consider it canon, especially with that woman in the corner of page 15?

>>53948557

pity about the bases

>>53956925

I shave it off with an exacto knife

a file is probably a better idea

>>53911631
Which edition are you playing your WE in?

>>53948536
Methylated spirits.

>>53954152
>>53954216
Grimgor is himself a pretty shit character. Just nowhere near the level of Archaon.

>>53958333
Grimgor is a cartoon.
Fucker kills more of his own army than the enemy does just because he's bored.

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>>53958029
8th edition in this case

>>53958780

Post your list s'il vous plaît.

Total War dlc was on sale. Isn't it kind of pay to win how dlc adds infantry that's way better than what they have standard?

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>>53958915
I ain't got that bitch on me, homeslice. But it's basically hagbane glade guard & deepwood scouts, an eternal guard bunker for lvl4 and wardancers
I think it has a Treeman as well as Warhawk Riders too
Could have Wild Riders but that might be another army list

I could swap out the Treeman for something more "efficient" but I like it
Same with Eternal Guard, probably

>>53959143
>homeslice
Nozomi why are you playing Fantasy?

>>53959143

Eternal Guard are good in my opinion, 20 usually does the trick.

Mordheim is on sale on steam. Is it worth it? Should I get the DLC as well?

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>>53959301
Its pretty fun, i put 100~ or so hours into it.

Just dont expect it to be like tabletop mordheim beyond the visuals. For 10 bucks its absolutely worth it in my opinion. Its also plenty complex character building wise if thats what you like.

The AI is also pretty annoying in that its not very smart but receives large stat bonuses to compensate

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>>53959300
Yeah I like taking 20 myself, I just hear people online groan about them all the time
Just park them bitches in the venom thicket and your now lvl5 wizard is protected by 20000 billion poisonous ASF AP spears
Not to mention cover and all that jazz, while Treebeard is standing guard over one flank and other guys the other one.
I would like to run Treekin as well but no models and I don't want to get the metal ones off ebay
I'm going to have to run some kind of meme-y melee list before people get sick of playing my WE and I really like playing them

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>>53959428

Just get some pic related. I know they're age of shill but this is basically what treekin would have looked like. The metal ones are just hideous.

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>>53959684
Yeah I kinda figured they'd look something like this, since the design is in line with how the Treemen look
They're a bit sleek looking for that T5 though, might have to do some work on them.
On the weapons, too

>>53917093
Links or release date?

>>53961070
Warlord just teased then in an email, saying that they are coming.
No date yet and they're not up in the store.

But apparently soonish(tm)

>>53960192
Do you really have to put some cancerous anime pic on every post?

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>>53961352
Since you seem to be a little perplexed about what the word "anime" means, I'll help you out a bit with the posts I assume you're referring to
None of the posts contain anime, let's see if I can find out what each of them is for you

>>53958780
^ A piece of art from the 9th age "army book" for the not!Wood Elves
>>53959143
^ Don't know the source on this one, presumably a piece of eastern style fan art
>>53959428
^ Piece of concept art from the PC game Vermintide
>>53960192
^ This one you were the closest on, but it's still not anime, looks to be from a manga.

Keep making quality posts that contribute to the thread, though.

>>53961582
>None of the posts contain anime, let's see if I can find out what each of them is for you
Oh, alright, let me be more specific, despite everyone knowing exactly what I mean. Do you really have to put some cancerous /e/-pic or manga page on every post? Though nothing against High Elf Archer, she's great.

>>53957955
Yeah, however you can buy like 100 bases for the same price that GW offers 10 from chinese sellers on Ebay.

>>53961674
>Do you really have to put some cancerous /e/-pic or manga page on every post?
There's literally one post with a page of manga on it, and every one of the posts is discussing the game, guy. No one's forcing you to click on them and expand the images if you hate them so much.
Although if there is someone forcing your hand, blink twice and I'll call for help.
>>53961767
Does GW even sell square bases anymore? I just bought a bunch off ebay for chump change a while back so I have a bunch of plastic baggies filled with 20mm and 25mm bases

>>53961789
>and every one of the posts is discussing the game
Yeah, because that is what I was shitposting about. Just get some new pictures. I know this is a general we where do the same things over and over again, but at least keep it warhammer.

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>>53961830
There's only so much "official" warhammer art, I think it's pretty justified to post pictures that are closely related enough, eg. ranger elves for wood elves and such
To each his own I guess.
You wouldn't happen to be an Ogre or dwarf player, would you

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>>53961867
>There's only so much "official" warhammer art
There is enough warhammer art out there to fill the entire thread, and certainly enough warhammer wood elf art for every single post of yours. Really no idea what's going on in your head.

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>>53961905
Doesn't mean I wouldn't get sick of using the same ones over and over. I doubt you'll find any thread on all of 4chan where the images they post are limited in such an autistic manner
Also doesn't mean I'd want to use them
The picture you posted, for example, is in my opinion an ugly piece of art
Just reminds me of how useless the Arrow of Kurnous is on the TT
I just post ones I find aesthetically pleasing
Again, not like you're not forced to look at the ones I use, just don't click on them and let the thumbnails be.
Don't know why you would get so caught up by this

>>53959374
>Just dont expect it to be like tabletop mordheim beyond the visuals

Even the visuals aren't right.

>>53961990
>Doesn't mean I wouldn't get sick of using the same ones over and over
Yeah, instead you post the same /e/ pics in almost every thread.

>>53959684
meh, I dislike man-shaped Treemen, I dislike these Treekin

I liked old ones. Spidertreeman and twisted Treekin

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>>53962020
again, why do you care so much?
You don't have to look at them and it seems to me that you're the only one who cares
>almost every thread
It's been a good few weeks since I last visited, before this one, but do keep trying friendo. I even got most of my images from the fantasy generals.
Bar the "Beware, Ogres" one, though
Time to take a breather and to stop shitposting, buddy.
>>53962050
I quite like the Treemen but the not!Treekin I'm not as fond of, just because they're supposed to be dead trees inhabited by elven spirits, right? Not these overly manlike things. With conversion work they might make decent treekin, though. I wish they'd just updated the old models.
I think the design in the Total War game is pretty decent, though

>>53962119
I did forget about the super thin waist, though
Good otherwise

>>53962119
Every time you post some random /e/-pics that I'm able to find in any other place that has anime masturbation pics, you are not posting some good warhammer art. Are you really surprised that people want to see warhammer art in a warhammer thread?

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>>53962166
Alright it looks like you're just going to not care about or not understand what's being said to you.
Here's your last (You), though. Don't spend them all in once place

>>53959143

Do not underestimate the Treeman, he's a murdertrain and possibly one of your best choices against heavily armored/high T monsters.

Plus he's quite tanky on its own, so if you throw him on any troop that hasn't str5 or greater it will chop them to bits

>>53955769
The point I am making is that it used to be a Dwarf Hold. It's a mine and no one else would make something like that.

It's likely this hold suffered the same fate as Karak Zorn in Southlands with the Lizardmen.

>>53961830
The official forums called, they want their autist back.

>>53960192
>ojou laughing elf

Hnnng

>>53962119
let's hope Death gets some releases soon. some MI-sized skeletons combined with Kurnoth Hunters would make pretty kickass treekins.

>go on vacation travelling
>rest and travels really clear the mind and recharge batteries
>mind is brimming with ideas, I am full of enthusiasm and eager to do stuff
>smash through all former mental roadblocks
>writing story for RPG, designing ships to make in a space sandbox, etc.
>turn my gaze to WHFB...
>...nothing...
>despite being still enthusiastic and inspired I feel absolutely zero desire to work on WHFB

Whyyyyyy?!
I hoped to channel this inspiration into finally completing so many overdue conversions! Maybe even playing a game or two!

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>>53962412
He is pretty good but I see other Wood Elf players just give him a pass all the time
I have one in most of my lists though. First time I fielded one was almost a disaster because it almost died to a cannonball first turn, fucking A
Usually I try to drown high T units in the tidal wave of poisonous shooting I have, same goes for high armour, that or Waywatchers or a good old hammer & anvil with EG or Wardancers being the anvil and Treeman or Wild Riders being the hammer
Wood Elves are so much fun at least when compared to Orcs and Lizardmen that I've played

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>>53957955
>>53961767
>>53961789
This is actually something I've contemplated for my daemons, and the good news is, round bases fit into square ones more or less perfectly. With a little bit of effort, you can put your shit on round bases (who knows, maybe you'll run your dwarfs as squat or some shit, or maybe there will be a qt AoS player that you decide to play with) while making WHFB-legal movement trays. And let's be honest, no one uses anything but movement trays anyhow. Only thing you might have trouble with is chariot-type bases, but maybe not. Don't have any for reference.

Pic related I just took to show what I mean.

>>53962808
Are there 20mm round bases though? afaik, no. But yeah I've seen a bunch of daemon players use movement trays on their round based daemons
Also, I think square bases are legal in AoS and 40K? Since they measure from the models in aos and maybe in 40k now with 8th, although I haven't read through the new rules for that yet

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>>53962687
I know how you feel compadre
I keep getting bursts of enthusiasm to paint and assemble my backlog away but once I sit there brush in hand, nothing

>>53962903
Google says there are, yes. Anyway, square is legal in AoS but I don't think they technically are in 40k since you have to move from the base for certain things. I think charging is one of them.

>>53962695

That is because a single treeman is killable.

In 2k points you can field 3 of them, one being a 4th level life mage (that comes with a 18 inches wide LD10 bubble)

Of course you'll never field them against dwarfs or the like, but, expecially with the Lord one, if you're against armies with a single cannon, you can easily develop him outside range of said cannon

>>53962687
>>53962981

>be me
>went out
>come home at 2 am
>inspirational burst
>go to sleep fuckhead
>don't open the mini cache
>i said don't
>regain ability to think after 7-9 hours, realize you just completed 9 treekins with bases, painted them with a 4-season theme, shaded and drybushes all that shit
>but it's 10 in the morning and you need to sleep, so fuck your restday

>>53963054
sounds like a good restday to me

>>53962119
has anyone tried to scratch build these style of treeman? I have some plans but am very interested to see what people do

>>53963028
Well the cannon isn't going to run out of range but cover would be nice if I got lucky with terrain once
You can field multiple treemen but that really eats up your points, I prefer having just one for flanking so that I can fit more shooting in.
If I did a melee list I'd probably take multiple, though. The lord one I kinda wanna give a go for a fluffy list but if I run into cannons (which I will) he's firewood

>>53963285

The only cannons you have to worry about are drawen and demon one due to flaming. He's still 6W, and he's a mage of life, so he can shrug off a cannonball or two in a whole game.

Fun fact: due to the lord treemen having an itsy bitsy base (it's a sideway chariot base) he is fucking hard to hit with cannonballs

>>53963347
I can't think of any cannon that couldn't hit (and with added luck, kill because lol d6 S10 wounds) a treeman turn 1, since they're like 48"-60 or 72" range. Just go "10 from the back of the base" and you'll hit anything with any luck, especially Ogres
I always did think it is weird how the Treeman Ancient is sideways on the base, and its odd that the only source we have for how its supposed to be facing is the box

>>53963451

''10 from the back base means that it can miss pretty often if it is a sideway chariot. It's like trying to hit a lone monstorus infantry model, it's statistically harder to hit.

>>53956925
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/WIP

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>>53963725
It doesn't need to land -on- the base, Anon
it just needs to bounce over it after the first one, you know that right?