Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Shit thread so early? not even 11 mate

>it's a shitpost thread episode

Sigh.

>>53904504
>falling for the reissue meme

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>W-Why won't anyone buy my models?

Coming back to 40k I haven't played since 5th edition. Was going to start a Tau army because I wanted a battlesuit heavy army. Since they have nerfed that into the ground I am thinking either a Dark Eldar or Necron army. Can anyone give me a quick run down on the pros and cons of each ?

>>53904558
>tau battlesuit heavy army nerfed into the ground
nigga what?
Literally only the riptide is unusable and crisis are less than ideal but every other suit is currently fucking great as of 8th so far, even the FW XV109 riptide variant is good. dafuq you smoking anon?

>>53904558
>Since they have nerfed that into the ground
they've only been nerfed down to the same level as everyone else.

if you want to play them theres no reason not to.

>>53904540
Oh god I actually feel something.

Christ that's so sad.

>>53904570
>>53904540
>mfw that's a picture I made by combing the others together in an order I thought was better
>mfw people saved it and are using it to shitpost

Dunno how I feel desu.

>>53904566
What's wrong with Riptides? Not got round to reading it yet. I preordered the Xenos FW Index but it ain't arrived; was that a community release (the variant)?

>>53904558
Yeah battlesuits are viable and fun.

Regardless, DE are speedy glass cannons done right (so they don't die as you deploy) and Crons are sturdy and reliable as warriors resurrect and some vehicles have that crazy ass shield that works very well to prevent damage

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rate my army.

Want to make a Behemoid Undercult army, including their living saint Old One Eye.
their brief fluff snippet mentions theyve taken over multiple worlds so i was going to ass-pull that lieutenant patriarchs to take local command of worlds are a thing and model the warriors as those.

>>53904584
I'm trying to rearrange the order in my head and I cannot possibly see any other way it would be any sadder than what I got.

Do you have the source?

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What else should I do to this guy to make him look a bit more like an Inquisitor? He will be one of the ones leading the Arbite Acolytes. I think I'm going to add some I's somewhere.

>>53904605

The 3rd image was probably the 1st one originally.

>>53904566

Mind showing me what a viable battlesuit army looks like in this edition?

>>53904609
Just the Is i reckon. Otherwise he looks good as is.

>>53904504

>No list builder link in OP
Shit thread is shit.
Who wants to take bets about who the first faction to get a codex is?

>>53904584
Riptides are too expensive and not durable enough for what they do.
You can literally get 2 valks that have the same toughness and wounds as a riptide for the same or less points than a riptides.
The XV109 was on the community yes, it look pretty good, with a 2d6 flamer that eats everything and the anti-vehicle ionic discharge cannon with like 18" movement or something

>>53904566
I've been reading it is better to take a commander than 3 crisis suits, riptides just aren't worth it and it is better to have a lot of fire warriors and pathfinders. Is this not true ? I only liked tau because of the crisis suits and big battle suits, if fielding a bunch of little guys is how the army plays now I may as well play a more interesting army.

>>53904504
Are Razorwing Flocks the best anti-coscript option
7 points for 12" movement and 8 attacks hitting on 5s

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>>53904605
>>53904614
It can be arranged pretty much anyway. I added the extra frame. Since it was posted individually.

Source I got it from: >>53896674

>>53904624
you fucking faggot

>>53904622
Space Marines, is that even remotely in doubt?

>>53904622
>Who wants to take bets about who the first faction to get a codex is?
How new are you

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>mfw this picture is no longer viable in 8th

I am sad.

>>53904633
Yeah I don't want to play tau if the best way to play them is to mass fire warriors and pathfinders. Who the fuck plays Tau for the infantry? The only exciting part about the whole army are the battlesuits.

>>53904651

In regard to this Indonesian yodelling blog-board or warhams?

>>53904651

Yeah that was a dumb question.

Better one: What'll be the first faction to get a codex after the starter set ones?

>>53904657
And you still get those, you just can't ONLY have those. Combined arms are important.

>reading Index 2 Impeium
>get to Catachan
>no Sly Marbo

REEEEEEEE. IF YOU DON'T DO A WARZONE CATACHAN AND HAVE HARKER AND STRAKEN FIGHTING BADRUKK AND LOSING UNTIL SLY MARBO ARRIVES AND SAVES THEM I WILL CRY.

Give us a new model of Sly Marbo... please. He's popular enough and you gave him rules in Shadow War.

>>53904657
I actually like Fire Warriors in terms of models, but I also love Broadsides and Riptides. Not a fan of the others. Ghostkeel looks OK I guess. Also no formations for KX139 with 3 of them sucks.

>>53904660
Warhammer

>>53904662
That's a better one.

I'm guessing either Dark Angels or Imperial Guard.

>>53904657

Before you call this guy a fag, can I point out that since 3rd edition they've made essentially no effort to actually make Tau infantry interesting?

-Only pathfinders get specialist weapons
-Only one new unit introduced, and it's a horrendously executed short range fire unit with largely the same appearance as regular fire warriors anyhow

>>53904630
I'm going to stop looking at this.

It's like I feel the weight of every property and piece of media I love get fucked over by the incompetent people who own the rights to them.

>>53904669
>DA or IG
>not Codex: Chaos "6th Edition" Space Marines

>>53904635

Could be death guard

>>53904690
It'll likely be both desu.

>>53904687
Hmm, you have a good point there actually.

Maybe we'll get Codex: Adeptus Astartes, Codex: Heretic Astartes, and then a campaign book with the full Death Guard + Nurgle Daemons update ike Wrath of Magnus did for TSons/Tzeentch Daemons?

Then whatever comes after that will have the Dark Angels update with Lion.

>>53904664
I get that, but I only wanted to take the bare minimum for infantry. They are just fairly boring models and just aren't exciting. Personal opinion obviously, I am sure some people love fire warriors. Either way I can't run the kind of Tau army I want without being somewhat disadvantaged, so I am asking about DE and Necrons.

>>53904690
Nah, loyalist marines are the poster boys, its always them.

Plus GW have revealed the primaris transport and dreac that'll be coming with it.

When is the new SM codex expected to arrive?

>>53904686
Well, to be fair, Sisters did at least get two new models last year. They'll come eventually. Also Repressors are fun! Stick a load of Heavy Flamer gals in there and suicide charge a blob.

>>53904695
>>53904690
>>53904669
Mortarion and the Grand Cultavator are the next Chaos releases, with the Repulsor and Dread for the Primaris Marines. The next Primarch, loyalist, is probably The Lion (this is a long standing rumour though). With the next traitor being either Angron or Fulgrim.

>>53904713
2 or 3 weeks I'll bet.

>>53904713
I give it before the end of July.

Does anyone have pictures of the Primaris marine GWs gave out if you preordered? Both assembled and on sprue if at all possible.

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>>53904618
sure, I can swap out some drones+wargear for another stealth team if needed
>>53904624>>53904657>>53904708
what are stormsurges, ghostkeels, stealthsuits, XV109s, broadsides?

>>53904726
Oh don't say you had to preorder the fucking box set to get limited edition models... I preorderd the fucking LE rulebook box and I get fuck all.

>>53904669
>Warhammer
Started when I was 12, so 11 years.

I'm expecting a curveball and seeing a release like Admech or maybe Death Guard.
I'd say they're going to wait until they get non-snapfit Primaris marines onto the shelves before doing the marine dex.

>>53904740
I heard that it's going to be the basic marine they give out to beginners now, rather than the normal marines.

>>53904710

Weren't chaos first in 6th?

>>53904740
They also gave them out for free as a painting tutorial sample in some stores. It's just a bolt rifle Primaris with a scenic base that has some spent shells and some rubble with skull bricks in it.

>>53904742
>I'm expecting a curveball
Are you just forgetting this is GW? The whole point of releasing the new codex will be to get the non-snapfit Primaris Marines onto the shelves, they won't release them without rules.

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>>53904540
Thats so sad. Someone need to sends this to GW. They will understand, they have to.

>>53904719
>Mortarion and the Grand Cultavator are the next Chaos releases, with the Repulsor and Dread for the Primaris Marines. The next Primarch, loyalist, is probably The Lion (this is a long standing rumour though). With the next traitor being either Angron or Fulgrim.

Are the Death Guard and Primaris releasing simultaneously?

>>53904719
>Mortarion and the Grand Cultavator are the next Chaos releases, with the Repulsor and Dread for the Primaris Marines.
There's more than that coming.

Total releases we'll see over the next month or two will be:

Primaris Intercessor/Hellblaster kit
Primaris Inceptor/Aggressor kit
Primaris Reiver kit with a possible other option
Some fourth Primaris infantry boxed kit
Primaris Overlord Flyer
Primaris Repulsor Gravtank
Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought
Primaris Apothecary
Primaris Librarian

Plague Marine kit
Plague Terminator kit
Plague Drone kit
Grand Cultivator
Mortarion
Plague Vindicator-type tank
Possible other Death Guard releases
New Great Unclean One

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>>53904504
If I like orks aesthetically, but I hate playing foot horde amies, am I basically boned? I love the way their vehicles look, but I can't stand the thought of painting and moving like 150+ models around the table every turn.
Are kult of speed and/or kan wall style lists still viable at all?

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>>53904755
>>53904752
God damn.

>>53904761
I made several versions of the picture. I think this one is the saddest >>53904630

And we did it to GW about 4 years ago. Pic related.

>>53904772
I thought it was specifically Mortarion and Grand Cultavator NEXT rather than the only things. Oh I dunno anon, so many rumours.

Rustalkers: They're shit but they look too cool to not take. Which equipment setup makes them less shit? 2 Transonic blades or a Transonic razor + an Arc claw?

100 fucking years had passed and the Ynnari still can't get the last crone sword to awake Ynnead. bitch what the fuck you been doing?

Ynnead probably awake eventually and they get 1 shot by Slaanesh and shatter into pieces like Khaine. And in the far back we have Cegorach rubbing hand and say :"Just as planned"

>>53904779
Yes, both are great.

>>53904761
It takes time to release a range covering so many pewter models.
With 8th, Guillimarines and Death Guard on the table Sisters won't see anything for a good while.

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>>53904779
Get sum bikes and join da kult of speed, ya grot!

>>53904794
>bitch what the fuck you been doing?
Guilliman

>>53904793
Claw and Razor, they're all shit so mind as well take the cheaper one.
Also don't forget to ask you oppoenent to use inv sv so your AP 0 weapon didn't look shit.

>>53904794
what date is the setting currently at? 41,099?

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>>53904819

>>53904786
I guarantee you that everything in that post is 100% correct except for the Librarian, which is still very likely I just don't have confirmation. No idea the exact order they'll release them in, this stuff tends to either come out in waves over the course of 2-3 weeks or they just release all the kits at once with the Codex. I can see the Primaris release being multi-week stretched out, the Death Guard release might just be one big drop.

>>53904824
Time are not consistent anymore, there're like 5 different timelines discovered already. Some are at 42, and some still stuck at 41.

>>53904830
Well... I just want Blood Angels specific Primaris kits because they just don't look good all red, sadly.

>>53904854
Those won't be coming out with this summer release. If they do at all it will be if/when Blood Angels get a Codex/Campaign book.

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>>53904829
>>53904819

>>53904824
Nobody knows any more, Ordo Chronos has to have their shoelaces taken way to stop them from hanging themselves

>>53904830

And then once they're done it's Ministorum right?

>>53904880
Lol. Probably not even happening this year.

>>53904873
>>53904849
Wew. Always gets iffy in this situations.

>>53904861
I assumed as much. It's a shame.

>>53904890
YOU LIE. You that old tripfag, Shaso'Rymr or whatever?

>>53904905
I am not him.

Also, if I ever do hear anything about an actual honest-to-god Sisters update, I won't even bother telling anyone because at this point nobody will believe it.

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So i said to a mate "got any spare bug parts for me to scratch build a nid with? I dont wanna keep it just wanna make something" and this is what he gave me to tinker with.

Gonna sort it all now but when im down id appreciate some ideas on what i should build, got plenty of greenstuff and tools, i just dont really play i mainly model/paint so i have no idea what should and shouldnt be on a nid, or what arms/weps are for what.

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>>53904786
Holy Shit, the Story of pic related is fucking sad.

>>53904921
I can help you out with that

>>53904919
Yeah. I didn't. The tripfag said there was gonna be a sisters update last year. I didn't believe him. Then the two models came. All of /tg/ did the OMG THESE 100% NEVER WRONG SOURCES SAY THEY'RE COMING. And they didn't. And the 100% NEVER WRONG sources backed out going

>y-yeah n-not yet! S-soon though!

It's bollocks. If SoB were getting an update; it'll be when everything else has been settled down.

How much information do you have access too?

>>53904931
My dude! Well check back shortly because onces its sorted ill take a photo of all the heads, then all the arms etc and let people give me suggestions.

>>53904905
This is totally speculation but it's possible we may see upgrade sprues for the various Primaris kits sooner than we see Codexes for the different Chapters.

>>53904591
Is there a way to put a heavy weapons team in an neophyte squad?

>>>/wsg/1745735

>>53904946
>How much information do you have access too?
I don't hear anything specific, but I have the kind of information that let's me cross-check with the other rumours and determine what's legit and what's unfounded bullshit.

>>53904926
Yup. Turned out it wasn't 100% true because SoB weren't squatted and their models are still being sold (though anybody non-retarded has bought Raging Heroes models instead).

Unless some richfag goes up to GW and offers them fuck loads of cash or outright buys them and demands SoB models, we ain't gonna get them any time soon. I mean, they gave Canoness Veriydian great rules in 7th; she's now no different to a regular Canoness. I hope that's just a mistake on GW's part, a named Canoness would be sweet.

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>>53904952
The Primaris Marines look bad if they're a block colour, which Blood Angels are without their bling. The BA Terminators are fantastic, similar to Calgar's Honour Guard in appearance. That breaks up the gold. But at the moment? Nothing to break up. They're just... not enough colour options. Black and Gold help break up the red, on top of green and shit for optics. BA terminators are amazing models and I don't think they get enough praise.

>>53904965
Oh. So how do you know shit is 100% gonna happen?

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>>53904975

>they gave Canoness Veriydian great rules in 7th
That's arguable.

>>53905001
>So how do you know shit is 100% gonna happen?
Because there are rumour leakers now with very specific info that matches up with everything I've been told.

>>53904958
Yeah, i can replace the 2 heavy mining weapon guys with a team.
Would say a lascannon team be better than the mining laser and seismic cannon?

>>53905010
Relative. She was a better choice than a default Canoness iirc.

>>53905015
Told by WHOM?

Wait. Am I right in thinking I can take a 5-man squad of Blood Angel's Devastators, put them in a Drop Pod, drop them next to something... then unleash 4 Heavy Flamer shots at them?


Also who/what are the most anti-Marine army at the moment? I've yet to go through all the books and even if I did I'm daft as a fucking plank because I'd need to add up all the costs of the units naked... then with options and so on...

>>53905027
This will sound memey but I have a contact who is good friends with someone in the GW.

Not like "oh I know a guy who claims his dad works at nintendo" like I know for a fact they are friends and they talk.

>>53905026
I mean, using the list builder.

I can't decide if I want to finish my 'nids or a Scion list first. I want to finish one before moving on to another army. Suspect the latter may be easier to paint and all.

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Is it just me, or do Deathwing Terminators actually get to keep their storm bolter when they take a heavy weapon?

>DI box arrives today
>still haven't decided how to paint my spess muhrens

End me

>>53905048
>Wait. Am I right in thinking I can take a 5-man squad of Blood Angel's Devastators, put them in a Drop Pod, drop them next to something... then unleash 4 Heavy Flamer shots at them?
Sadly no, the devastators have to set up 9 inches away the turn they arrive and heavy flamers are only range 8.

Can anyone confirm that the real codexes are due to release in October? At least SM and CSM ?

>>53905103
Imperial fists. Do it for papa dorn.

>>53905103
The Emperor demands Rainbow Warriors.

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>>53904504
Is there something special about citadel paint that makes it so much pricier than other brands?
I like that they have specific paints for specific purposes, like the distinction between base colours and layer colours, and that their colours are pre-made for highlighting their other colours, but is it worth the extra cost over Vallejo or Army Painter, for instance?

>>53905130
There will be real Codexes out "this summer", so almost definitely before October.

>>53905069
Oh, yeah you can.

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Rate my wubble

>>53905103
Try using a paint brush and some paints. Finger-painting is just so inaccurate.

>>53905155
0/babycarrier

>>53905150
It is good quality modle paint.

But part of it is just GW being GW. Though the price difference is close enough that theyre not always mire expensive than other quality mini paints.

>>53905121
God damn it. Oh well. At least I can drop them somewhere and hope they survive. Or transport them.

>>53905103
Ultramarines. Always Ultramarines. The objectively best Chapter.

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>>53905154
Oh, how? This is the screen for the neophytes and I can't see an option for making a heavy weapons team at all.

>>53905103
dude just take a piss on them and they're golden

One last rumour I can leave before I depart.

At least some of the Death Guard stuff will release on July 7th (yes that's 7/7/17)

>read Index 1

>Ultramarines
>Imperial Fists
>Crimson Fists
>Black Templars
>White Scars
>Raven Guard
>Salamanders
>Blood Angels
>Space Wolves
>Dark Angels

>no Iron Hands

What does it mean?

>>53905174
Drop them in as a karger squad for ablative bodies and with some other distraction units. Some assault terminators teleporting in w ith them should draw attention away

>>53905155
Why a Librarian ?
Why no Grand Master ?
Why psilencers ?

Oh hey - so the Raptor champion can legally take two plasma pistols. Take that and a couple of plasma guns in a MSU Raptor squad as the escort for a jump pack lord could be a pretty decent way to use them, should one not wish to spend the points on a combi-plasma terminator blob. The 12" move to keep up with said lord is pretty appealing, too.

>>53905194
No named characters

>>53905194
Iron hands don't have any unique units do they?

>>53905185
Click on one of the regular guys and their should be a heavy weapon team button.

>>53905194
There are no Chapter Tactics (yet) so every chapter that doesn't have at least 1 Special Character isn't listed, because there is zero reason to.

>>53905095
From the wording, yes they do.

>>53905208
>>53905209
I thought they got some in Clan Rukkan or whatever book?

>>53905218
Oh. I thought they got a dude in that Clan Rukkan thing.

>>53905229
No, the only ting Iron Hands had was Captain Smashfucker, but he wasn't an official named character,

Reposting from last thread

How much did Tau change?

Will my old set up still work?

>3 groups of 10 fire warriors, of any variety, with devilfishes
>3 small groups of pathfinders
>2 groups of 3 man crisis suits
>a hammerhead
>2 skyrays
>2 groups of 2 Railgun broadsides
>a unit of Vespids
>a Ghostkeel

Adjusted for points obviously. This has been the mainstay for a while, after the Riptide got permabenched with the introduction of the Ghostkeel.

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>>53905214
any clue where it is? here's a regular guy and I can't find the option.

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>>53904540
Don'tdo this to me, heart.

>>53905243
Should work well.

>>53905243
Yeah, it should still be fine, only the crisis suits got a bit of a nerf on your list, the rest are still pretty amazing (Vespids still kinda suck though :c)

>>53905244
Check the second guy, the one after the leader.

>>53905244
Click the first regular guy, after the leader.

>>53905258
Ooh thanks!

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>>53904540
damn

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>>53905191

Has FW made a mistake?

>Severin Loth
>Manifest 2, Deny 3 and Knows 2 + Smite

>Ahazra Redth
>Manifest 2, Deny 2 and Knows 2 + Smite

Both Chief Librarians but one is better... I know Loth was suppose to be super powerful.. But it gets more confusing.

>Inquisitor Lord Hector Rex
>Manifest 2, Deny 3, Knows 2 + Smite

How is a regular human better than a Chief Librarian?

This is further made odd by every Librarian character in Index 1 GW to be Manifest 2, Deny 2, Knows 3 + Smite.

>>53905257
>Vespids still kinda suck
As in; They suck like they used to, or that they suck even more than before?

Because Vespids were the single most underrated thing in the old book.

Also, crisis suits look more intimidating than before. Or am I not understand it the rules correctly?

I am not quite used to the new setup. They changed quite a lot, makes it pretty difficult to get a good feel if where things are in terms of power.

>>53905279
Forge World made tons of mistakes.

>>53904623
>and not durable enough for what they do
They are literally the most durable unit in the Tau army

>>53904540
That's heartbreaking

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>>53905103
Roll you schmuck.

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>>53905275
>Tfw Red Dwarf's theme song was about suicide

>>53905229
If you want fluff on Kardan Stronis and the IH, I really recommend Eye of Medusa. Fantastic book. IH are scary as shit.

>>53905279
>regular human
>inquisitor
Methinks you don't understand how psykers work.

Marines aren't naturally better psykers. Inquisitors have a tendency to be really fucking good at it, by contrast.

Do the math.

>>53904873
Not to mention in the rulebook apparently the big rift fucked over time in certain parts of the galaxy, speeding it up or slowing it down depending on how Tzeentch was feeling that day.

So in some parts of the Imperium it could have been a thousand years since Gathering Storm, while for others only 6 months have passed.

>>53905305
Well when you're trapped in space with only a robot, a hologram and a mutated cat, suicide doesn't seem all that bad.

>>53905310
>Marines aren't naturally better psykers

They literally are. There was no Lv.3 regular human pyskers to the best of my knowledge in 40k. They were all Space Marines. Only people Lv.4+ were Eldrad and Ahriman. Then Magnus was Lv.5.

>>53905316
But what about being impregnated my your female alternative self?

>>53905155
Paladins a LOT better than terminators. Drop terminators, take paladins.
Find points for paladin ancient.
Librarians not as good, since you can only cast spells once- And you can just give gate to the Brother Captain.

>>53904824
It's been 100 years since Guilliman came back, and the year was, in the books, M41.999.

So by that, we are in M42.099.

But, no one knows the actual exact year, as there are 5 main calenders and dozens of less used, heretical ones.

The Ordo Chronos tore itself apart over it. Guilliman has calculated it's anywhere from early M41 to early M42.

He's created a new order, the Historitors. They are there to travel the Imperium, with his authority to record forgotten history. He has them opening up forbidden archives and taking everything for catalogue and study.

>>53905243
Devilfish are a lot more expensive now

Crisis Suits are more expensive. They are overall better since they can drop anywhere on the board more than 9" away from an enemy, but they worse in a few ways.

Broadsides are more expensive, but railguns are much better

Hammerheads are better

Vespids are much better

Ghostkeels are more expensive but better

You should be fine if you add an HQ - right now you're lacking an HQ

>>53905324
>They literally are. There was no Lv.3 regular human pyskers to the best of my knowledge in 40k
that was purely a game mechanics thing.

in the fluff a marines psychic potential is no different from a regular humans , their augments are only physical.

Whats a good highlight colour for a glossy black main coat?

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>tfw FW order finally arrived

The free catalogue is so thick and shiny, and they used small bags of air as packaging.

>>53905425
white.

>>53905366
I thought the Ordo Chronos didn't exist as they disappeared? So the situation is a clusterfuck and Girlyman is trying to understand what's happened?

>>53905439
they simultaneously exist and don't because they paradoxed themselves.

>>53905424
Their training and physiology makes them better suited to be psykers though. Stronger body and stronger mind.

>>53905439
They basically destroyed themselves in a civil war.

No one knows quite what happened, but it was over which dating system to use.

And yes, a huge clusterfuck, Guilliman says knowledge of the past was worse than after the Dark Age of Technology and Old Night.

>>53905299
rollan for my primaris

>>53905376

Railgun or Ion cannon on Hammerhead? Ion cannon seems really expensive for just being a better auto cannon

A Stormlord can still shoot if it falls back, can the units its transporting also still fire from its extended firing decks that turn?

>>53905453
So the reason they disappeared in, let's say, 37M was because the Great Rift fucked them up in 40.999? So either their time travel fucked up or they time travelled and fucked up or whatever.

Neat, I guess. I need to read the Dark Imperium book. I heard it was sadly more ADB wank of "EMPEROR WAS A DICK LOL AND HE SAW PRIMARCHS AS TOOLS DEFEATING THE REASON WHY HE COULDN'T KILL HORUS UNTIL HORUS KILLED SOMEBODY ELSE CALLOUSLY!"

I know he didn't write it (Guy Haley did, right?) but this is fluff shit I don't like.

>>53905467
So Girlyman is trying to find and record the history of all the places in the Imperium who were affected by time differently to learn what happened in that time period?

Thanks lads. I'll get to reading it soon.

>>53905366
And then, some day, these historitors, will discover the squats again.!

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>>53904540
>The galaxy produces enough paint and plastic to beat back the hordes of chaos and xenos every day, so why are there still metal sisters? There are over ten thousand sororitas in the galaxy who can't fight for the emperor without a model to represent them on tabletop, and they need your help. For just pennies a day, you could sponsor a sister of battle and make sure she gets the paint, love, and wargear every mini deserves.

>>53905503
Anon, they've been in the rulebook since 6th ed. Healthy and alive.

>>53905497

It's not different times, it's literally that no one can agree on a calender.

It's only since the rift that time has been fucky.

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>>53905503
>mfw Felinids won't ever be allowed to travel to other planets and join the IG and fight for the Shiny Object Person!

>>53905516
I posted that in the other thread. It's a cute picture.

>>53905466
the body is irrelevant. a stonger mind helps with not getting eaten by deamons. but they're not inherently superiour, the sanction processin general results in strong minded psykers (because the weak don't survive) marine or not.

>>53904566
Not sure what you are on about. My Crisis suits are still pretty great.

>>53905523
I know, but I meaned as a faction. And while there at it, give us felinid models! And Plastic Sisters! And some new Abbadon Demonprince Model!
... I mean, we can still dream...

>>53905535
It is though. Being a psyker is known to be extremely taxing on the body, something that SM still suffer, but a lot less than baseline humans. There are countless examples of SM Librarians being visibly more aged than what they should be, or psykers physically afflicted by the constant use of their power.

>>53905559
The helmet option is yet again superior.

>>53904727

Well themed, a stealth ambush detachment with a marker commander and a fire support unit.

Seems kinda low firepower compared to what you coulda taken within the same theme before though. Lower model count -and- markers don't really help out the same.

>>53905559
why is the head so much taller than the helmet

>>53905559
Where is this from?

Left is superior

>>53905527
felinds are allowed to travel and their fluff makes no mentionof being exempt from the guards tithes.

"endemic and restricted to" was used in the lay persons ecological sense, to just mean theres no other planets with substantial populations.

even beastmen who are specifically noted as the most persecuted abhumans are still allowed to travel (most) of the imperium and have guard regiments.

>>53905580
It's a limited edition release.

>>53905559
I like the pose

>>53905595
Doesn't answer the question

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>>53904540
OMOCHIKAERI!!!

>>53905595
And? Where the fuck is the source of the image?

>>53905580
Milton Keynes store. They said it was an anniversary of the store model.

Don't think I believe them.

>>53905497
>EMPEROR WAS A DICK LOL AND HE SAW PRIMARCHS AS TOOLS

He definitely saw some of them as tools, even if they weren't intended to be.

Somehow I find it hard to believe that Primarchs like Angron or Curze had a place in the Emperors Empire of reason. Hell, he might have even purged some that were loyal, like poor old Ferrus who drilled his Marines to be savage survivalists with a mindset of absolute disdain for any weakness.

Horus, Guiliman, Dorn, Sanguinius, the lion, Fulgrim (just put him to work designing the prettiest whore house in the galaxy), maybe Perturabo (Put him to work designing the most structurally sound whore house in the galaxy), and probably Lorgar if he hadn't of developed the Messiah complex.

All the ones who couldn't create or defend probably didn't have a place in the future imperium.

>>53904946
There was nothing on evey metals desks at christmas. I know tht for a fact. That meansxnothing for at least 18 months sisters wise.

I know someone who is happy to tell me what he's not working on.

>>53904558
Necrons are durable but can't really kill things that need to die. I've often found my durability completely negated by the fact that I've only killed 4 units but lost more than half my shit at the end of the game. It takes the opponent twice as long from average to kill you, but it takes you 3 or 4 times as long to kill other things.

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>>53905523
Oh... I thought some places were cut off and were subject to years of time more than unaffected reality. I best read.

>>53905544
I like the meme that Abaddon makes it to Terra, kills Dante and is just about to kill the Emperor but Cypher appears and kills Abaddon. Chaos retreats and the Imperium celebrate. Abaddon is then mutated in the Warp and he eventually gets spat out as a swole killing machine, Primarch size. Whether he's a Daemon Prince or not will be irrelevant. Abaddonw ill be back and he'll have a bigger model.

If that happens, it'd be glorious.

>>53905535
By the way, you're talking to another guy about psykers... I got distracted by other topics.

>>53905595
For who? For when? When and where can it be obtained?

>>53905607
>I made that picture and he gets all the (You)'s. Not that I drew the art, I'm not good enough.
>I made others but the impact is lessened

Guess I gotta move onto my next plan.

>>53905592
Hmm. Nice idea. If I was a GW/BL writer I'd write an Inquisitor having one as a acolyte or some shit. That's what I always planned but could never finda suitable mini.

>>53905621
>>53905616
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2175

>>53905635
It was, that was only after the rift, Guilliman is trying to make sense of all the other shit too.

>>53905489
Railgun is good against single targets (vehicle/monster) with high toughness and the subminition is decent against hordes

Ion Cannon is a great upgrade for killing models with 2 or 3 wounds each, like primaris or terminators. Being able to shoot D6 against units of 10+ is incredible.

Unless you need to hit something with T8+, or you need the extra 12" range, it seems like the Ion Cannon is a better choice. Is it worth 50 point upgrade? That's a tough call.

>>53905010
Canonesses weren't great HQ choices, so if you were trying to fill slots cheap she was better than a default Canoness in some situations due to her unique aura. I tabled a chaos opponent in two turns in 7th with two squads of 20 bolter sisters supported by her in a 1850pt casual game iirc.

At the very least you of course only had to take her if she was good for your army, so having the choice between cheap aura or expensive beatstick instead of just beatstick was nice.

What do you guys think of the Trygon Prime's biostatic rattle?

I'm not exactly sure when it would be useful.

>>53905624
According to 8th, Emperor's favoured Sons were Horus, Sanguinius and Girlyman. I still don't see how Sanguinius would have been OK'd, despite him believing in the Emperor's plan the most. I think it was shit and defeats the whole point of the fight on the ship.

>>53905299

rolling

>>53905527
They are humans, the wrong kind of humans, but they are still allowed to die for the Emperor or die trying.

Bloody beastmen have their own regiment, nobody likes them or respect them as the perverted, thieving, sniper and cooks ratlings.

The Imperium is remarkably tolerant, as long you are human, pay your taxes and worship a non heretical version of the Emperor you are ok.

Hell even some Xenos are ok

>>53905559
Can somebody photoshop this Red to make it look like BA? I think it could fix the problem I think they have.

>>53905299
I actually did do a squad of white panthers because of this. If I ever pick up any chadmarines I'll do them in that scheme too.

>>53905299
rolling rolling rolling rolling

>>53905635
Actually, Abbadon should make it to terra, and try to kill the emperor so we get this "all those who wish the master of mankind dead" thing dealed with, hurray, perfect moment for comeback of Rogal Dorn, hiding amongst the custodes and kills abbadon. Or what you said, but then, the Dangles are forgiven, and Lion comes back, and the can stop to be complete autists.

>>53905324
Malcador could have kicked the ass of any librarian.

>>53905653
It was hilarious to snipe sonic marines with an Exorcist tank.
Out noise the noise marines.

SoB had nothing special, but what they had to work reliably. The only list I remember having a hard time was against Eldar bike spam. Maybe if the Tau player knew how to play it would had been impossible, but his netlisting ass got destroy constantly. The fucker even had the guts to call SoB op while he used a riptide wing

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>>53905559
Oh baby.

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>>53905299
Real shame Hospitallars didn't do shit. Also, aren't those Red Scorpions out of date?

>>53905103
EMPEROR'S SHADOWS.

>>53905559
Love it. Except the powerfist. I hope there are other loadouts.

Am I to understand that, wether with points or power, you can only increase a unit's size by the specific portions its entry offers?
For example, Ork Boyz can only be purchased in multiples of 10?

>>53905299
perro carcharodons

>>53905713
It would be better if he reaches terra, get inside the throne room, the proceed to lose both of his arms.
Mind bullet son!

That way we could finally have a proper bad guy, instead of the joke and re write needing Armless the Harmless.

>>53905738
He was the last Shaman, so duh.

>>53905713
I'm pretty sure Cypher will kill Abaddon, this will 'prove' his loyalty. Dante will either die or will be turned into a Primaris version of himself. Or becomes Sanguinius or some daft shit cause of sacrifice. Cypher then gives the sword to the Emperor who goes "yeah it's chaos!" and then the Lion is called out on it. He comes back and is like "oh I was offered this chaos sword and I was tempted to take it and and and I decided to wait to see who won and then I realised Chaos is bad and there was a misunderstanding and explosions and I want apple juice."

I like that most people I hear talking about Abaddon nowadays want them to hurry up and kill him off.

>>53905299

Lets do it

>>53905806
It is a shit character.
He is like babies first chaos marine fanfic.

>>53905559
I need some more autobolt models mang

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Does this list suck /tg?

>It's another too hot to paint or glue episode in the UK

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>parcel out for delivery

its almost here!

>>53905768
>>>/sp/

Also it's a real shame that Gabriel Seth can no longer pwn Tyberous Wake in a duel. In 7th Seth dished out so many hits that I think Wake died before he could one hit him. Now? Now I suspect Wake will kill Seth before hand.

>>53905806
>>53905816
I had a theory of how GW could save it. Abaddon dies. He goes into the Warp. Chaos Gods then rip his memory of Horus out of his mind and builds a twisted version of Horus based on their whims and what Abby can remember. Abby's soul is then slammed into the crazy Horus dude and it's both Horus and Abby or Abby controlnig Horus.

So you got a bigger and more powerful Abby but... yeah.

>>53905821
I need some kneeling Bolter Rifle guys, kneeling and sighting.

>>53905816

If they wanted to retcon him to be credible, they took the wrong approach. The "I meant for my black crusades to do barely anything, it was all steps in my master plan and at the last hurdle it suddenly all pays off!" Stuff just made it a transparent attempt at covering their asses.

A better approach would have been to retcon that every crusade caused small warp rifts to open, an existing warp rift to expand and so on. Then the cicatrix maladictum isn't an asspull, it's all the rifts he's been causing joining up.

>>53905842
Sounds like babies second chaos marine fanfic.

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>>53905835
I saved this years ago for use against summerfags. But I've been using it with it's intended purpose this year.

>>53905853

Oh also causing rifts during crusades also counts as Chaos Marines -gaining territory- rather than going on short rampages across a few worlds then ducking back to their hidey hole.

>>53905857
You read a lot of Chaos fanfics it seems, mate. I'd stop if I were you.

Can we be done with the 40k releases and get back to the clearly superior AoS?

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>>53905789
>falling for the lion heretic meme

>>53905559

Why the fuck wasn't that the starter set captain?

Way better than garbage Gravis armour.

>>53905662
exorsits!
nice, bro!

>>53905834
Have the fire dragons steal the banshees' ride. They need it more.

>>53905624
>Horus, Guiliman, Dorn, Sanguinius, the lion, Fulgrim, maybe Perturabo and probably Lorgar

>No Vulkan

Srsly?

>>53905299

Spesss

>>53905559
Source?
I'm not doubting you, I just want to see if ther are more pictures.

>>53905891
I never said he was a heretic, only that he was offered the choice to go through with it. He was on his way to Terra but he never stated WHO he was going to help. The fact the Imperium ''''won'''' meant he decided to side with them.

>>53905897
they're carpooling, 8th ed you can have multiple units in the same transport

aspect warrior road trip time

>>53905865
The chaos cumshot was lame as fuck.

Are you telling me that Cadia alone was holding chaos back? The other pylons where there just for moral support?
And if the pylons are so important why didn't Eldar and Necron went full force to protect them?

Don't give me the bullshit excuse about a single craft world or nids being more scary for Necrons. The bugs activity avoid necron worlds.
The entire plot of GS was fanfic tire.

When the shitty Dorian heresy sounds better you know you fuck up hard

>>53905932
>Dorian heresy
whats wrong with the Dorian heresy anon?

>>53905909
You're out of date, you need to read up on the HH novels series. To understand the imperium secundus subplot that covers the Lion's loyalty, you should probably start by reading Vulkan Lives.

Huehuehuehuehuehuehue.

>>53905299
Rooooolllliiiinnnngg

>>53905299
Rolling for great justice

>>53905909
Did you even read the attached image you numbnut? Clearly states that Lion was on the Emperor's side, and that the traitor thing is mostly due to him being forced to arrive late by Chaos

>>53905299
Is that storm lord marine doing the carlton dance?

>>53904779
Trucks are very nice this edition they have feel no pain against multi wound damage , sure they are flimsy but its not vey noticable bring one big mek and some little meks little meks can take nice gear and has multiple wounds and benifits from cover

>>53905929
Wroom-wroom, everybody have combat squads now!

>>53905764
no. in points you pay per mini. but can have have them any number between the min and max.
powerlevel you pay for the specified amount but don't have to include all. of you only want 8 extra orks you can, but you pay for 10.

In both systems you can go below the minimum, but understrength units still cost what they would have if you did have the minimum.

>>53905932
>Are you telling me that Cadia alone was holding chaos back? The other pylons where there just for moral support?

The Cadian Pylons were more important because they were doing the most work containing the energies of the Eye. The Eye of Terror spew the energies that ripped the galaxy in half.

>And if the pylons are so important why didn't Eldar and Necron went full force to protect them?

Necrons are insane, disorganized, and uncaring. It was shown that the Necrons were clueless about what was going on except for the Court of Thanatos but these guys choose inaction since the they are custodians of the galaxy, not its protectors.

Eldar did not know until the Harlequins and the Ynnari told them. They are now protecting the pylons in force and even considering allying with the Necrons.

You were told this before, and like a jackass you repeat the same questions.

>>53905993
What does it mean?

>>53905977
I did. But this is him fighting his brother and when the war is in a state of 'balance'. Not "They're breaking through the fucking gate and we're not there to help" tier. He panicked, wanted to save his sons and was willing to turn, but couldn't bring himself or didn't manage it before he arrived.

Girlyman recognised the sword and knew what it meant.

>>53905842
>I need some kneeling Bolter Rifle guys, kneeling and sighting
marine minis are among the easiest to repose, just cut at the relevant joints, pin it back together in the desired pose and you can fill the gaps by just sculpting that ribbed texture they have inside the joints.

>>53905559

>Pistol and fist

Wouldn't full blown gun and fist make more sense?

>>53906011
>and was willing to turn
No he wasn't. He was literally interrogated by Kairos Fateweaver and Fateweaver found no trace of taint in his heart.

>>53906019
Can the same be done for Astra Militarum and Tau?

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What's our kid been up to lately?

>>53906008
In previous editions marines could have two 5-man squads in one transport due to their cheap loophole rule caled Combat Squads.

Now everyone can have 2 squads in a transport.

>>53905908
From random dude comment of War-of-sigmar blog

Lol I had to delete old post because I thought it was Faeit.

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>>53906068
Sau this to my 20 man horned squads

>>53905305
So was M.A.S.H.

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Lets open this can of worms , everyone turn to page. 180 and read the blurb about pistols , look at that can these things fire into already existing combat from a unit that is not engaged , it says units that are even within 1 inch of enemy modles

>>53906081
Use a Spartan?

>>53905932

Yeah again, it's cooler story wise if the warp overtaking the galaxy is a gradual process that's been happenin for a good while, and makes the chaos marines not seem useless.

I mean really: Daemons are an omnipresent threat, but chaos marines are as much bit players as the Tau on the galactic scene, propped up by daemonic backing and the fact that they're the guys most mono-focused on tearing down the imperium rather than say, gaining territory, havin' a good scrap wit da boyz, or trying to eat everthing.

Can my 20 man squad have 2 attached rhinos?

>>53905835
Seriously, do britfags not have air conditioning?
>>53906113
Transports are now transports. If it has the same keyword, it can go into it.

>>53906096
Only if the model is also within 1" of enemy models, but then it has to shoot the closest enemy.

>>53905299
Yee

>>53906126
I mean split 20 squad to 2 rhinos. Whats about coherency?

>>53906037
they're a little harder, same method but because they have clothe pants resculpting the missing bits is more difficult.

certainly still doable, but probably need some sculpting practice to get a reault you'll be happy with.

>>53906126
Nope, we don't.

>>53906096
Let me blow your mind - if you are within 4" of an enemy unit you can Consolidate into combat with it without triggering overwatch.

>>53905299
just fuck me up son

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>So my friend used to play Orks, and my other mate started playing Orks a year ago (But then dropped them)
>I love my hobby, as a rule, so I've got a small bundle of everyone's Orks sitting on my shelf at home.
>Suddenly 8th Drops
>Newfriend contacts me, says he wants to air his boyz out out. I say 'We can do one better'.
>Contact Firstfriend, ask if I can use his guys. "Sure. I've got more at my house, too"
>Go to his. He's on the phone to a mate, talking to Him about HIs Boyz. Says I can swing by there after if I want and grab them, because some of his kit is mixed up with them.
>I get on the phone to another friend, let him know what's going on, he volunteers his brother's Orks which have gone unplayed for years. Offers to bring them around.
>I let him know I'm going to the FLGS, meanwhile he's grabbed another mate who plays orks and wants to come along for the ride.
>Talking to Firstfriend's Friend who mentions his girlfriend's friend has been sitting on a few of his orks too, might have a couple of spare kans around.
>Metalguy finds out about the hubbub from a seperate chatgroup, wants to bring his gitz.
>Turn up to the FLGS.
>Four different ork players, us with four different players' orks.
>Mfw I accidentally a Waagh.

>>53905299
Gold/yellow GET

>>53906113
>Dedicated Transports: May Include 1 for each other choice
If the 20-man unit is only one choice, it can only have one dedicated transport

>>53906144
No, you can't split a unit up to travel in two different vehicles

>>53906144
no. a unit can't be split up.

why not just take 2 units of 10?

>>53906157
Orkz iz made fer foighten

>>53906151
I feel sorry for y'all. Granted, anytime i have to spray im usually dealing with 70-80% humidity.

Pistols aren't really noticably better than before.

You can't fire both a normal weapon and a pistol.

You can fire a pistol before charging, but you could also fire any nastier weapon you have.

You can't fire the pistol in the enemy turn, so if you got charged you can't shoot it that turn, and the turn after you charged it can't be shot until it comes back to you again.

So the only times you'll be shooting in combat is in the second or third combat round, assuming you didn't fall back.

Neat minor bonus if you have a free bolt pistol, but not really worth buying a plasma pistol for it.

>>53906183
>>53906183
We have that too.

>>53905299
Have chaos version?
>>53906173
Cause i can take 20

>>53906130
But before i roll to charge?

Arch magos of PEACE when

>>53906195
Well damn. Soldier on, limey anon. Soldier on.

>>53906207
You can't shoot into combat unless you're also in combat.

>>53906153
Only if that unit was selected to Fight, which means you started the Fight phase while within 1" of an enemy.

>>53906189
>plasma pistol:7 ppm
>plasma gun: 13 ppm
its almost as if GW now know that pistols are worse than guns

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I'm finishing up my hell brute.

What chapter should I paint the sleeping space marine?

Anyone got a link to the Dark Imperium novel in pdf / epub?

>>53906189
"Pistol" rule must say "in fight phase make stated number of attacks, yousing shooting profile"

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Coming back to 40k with my old assault on black reach marines and have recently added dark vengeance marines and terminator chaplain to my lineup how fucked am i

Pic unrelated

>>53906253
>I'm finishing up my hell brute.
M8, you havent even started yet,christ lad, at least try

>>53906196
yeah but if you want them in transports just take 2 units of 10. that way you can actually have them in transports and there's no loss of effectiveness.

>>53906189
They would be way better if you could fire them as part of your melee attacks in the fight phase.

So now that Conscripts are tax free I was thinking of using this as an opportunity to finally start a themed regiment like Steel Legion and use my existing Guardsmen as Conscripts or basic infantry. Obviously IF we get Regiment rules my choice might change but are Elysians still getting printed by FW and easily available or are they OOP like some regiments?

>>53906269
>yousing
>Not (you)sing

>>53906274
lol marinelet

>>53906289
i fucked up, but who cares?

>>53906299
Just feels like a miss oppitunuty, much like those dubs.

>>53906297

>>53906253

Ultramarine

Gas the smurfs

Space war now

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So Repentia seem like total garbage outside of a very specific moment, which is when they are charging. They are 17 points a model for two attacks of 4+ to hit (rerollable though), strength 6, -2 AP, 2 damage but their defenses are only toughness 3 and a 6++ with no armor. So they are 17 point models that die to lasgun hits half the time unless you can make a 6++ save.

But, Repressors can hold ten models and only five of those slots need to be filled by Dominions or Retributors to make them a rolling bunker and only six can fire out at all. So you could put three Repentia in with them, to either counterattack after the transport is attacked or to make the turn after you ram a living hell for your opponent.

Sound worth it at all? It's still 51 points just for three Repentia and on average they only dish out 4.5 hits before dying to the weakest attacks in the game. An Eversor is 70 points, power maul Canoness is 49, eviscerator Canoness 67.

Trying to find a way to make them worth taking but I'm not really seeing it.

>>53905900

Fuck, forgot him.

I wonder what the Heavy Rail Cannon on the T'aunar does. Gotta be one of the biggest weapons on a model of it's scale.

>>53906325
Arco's just seem flat better.

>>53906281
That'd end up be like 2nd ed/Necromunda/SWA when there're no reason to buy melee weapon if you have Melta pistol. And D6 damage melta pistol in melee are not very healthy.

So hey, superheavy units can't really hit multiple units at once anymore?

>>53906189
If they doubled as assault weapons they might be alright.

But as it is I'd generally rather be able to fire my flamer after advancing than fire my pistol in melee combat.

>>53906348
Everything can split their fire as they please now.

>>53905559

That's look so much better than the Gravus captain.

Pity it's a limited release though. If it was to come out I hope it'd have more options though, like a relic glade or something.

>>53905859
i could thin my paints with the fucking sweat off my fucking palms!

>>53906360

Yes, but Superheavies used to have guns that could hit multiple units in one go. Ten inch blasts, 16 inch flamers, that sorta thing.

Am I the only one who kind of likes Abaddon? Not sure he gets enough credit; the Black Legion's continued existence means he must be doing something right.

>>53906109
To be fair one could argue that constantly poking holes in the fabric of reality to travel from one end of the galaxy to another, could also contribute to why the galaxy is getting warp tears everywhere

>>53906348
You mean with the same gun? No, they can't.

>>53906369
Well the captain and this guy are using different armor, but the weird "bent spine" pose of the Captain in the box set is inexcusable, who approve this pose to go in production lol?

>>53906325
>>53906337
Arco-fags are way better and cheaper.
Hell Acolytes with needle pistols and power maul are 14 points and have the same number of attacks than Repentias.

Personally I think GW values melee and Damage 2+ way too much

>>53906377
Oh yeah, all AoE's are pretty much gone.

Thoughts about this little armored company list? Practically guaranteed to go 1st for the alpha strike. 17 heavy bolters, 3 battle cannons, 1 punisher, 3 manticores, 2 inferno cannons, and an artillery barrage. Almost everything either rerolls 1s, hits on 3+ or both. Pask alone dishes out 29 str5 hits on 2+ and 3 manticores near the master of ordinance means 6d6 str10 shots across the board rerolling 1s. Are armored company lists even viable in 8th? I think this has a respectable amount of dakka.

spearhead detachment (+1cp) = 822

Pak in punisher +HB sponsons +hull HB = 221
manticore +hull HB = 133
manticore +hull HB = 133
manticore +hull HB = 133

hellhound + hull HB = 101
hellhound + hull HB = 101


supreme command detachment (+1cp) = 677

tank commander LMBT +HB sponsons +hull HB = 213
tank commander LMBT +HB sponsons +hull HB = 213
tank commander LMBT +HB sponsons +hull HB = 213

master of ordnance 38

total points = 1499

>>53906378
Nah I think he's cool too. He only fails because BL keep pulling the rug from underneath him EVERYTIME he gains ground. Also GW needs to Fucking update his model

>>53906401
I mean they do mulch things if they get there, they just don't have the defensive stats to back it up. It's the same with anything with a big disparity between lethality and survivability.

>>53906274
you are in quite a good position. tacs are good. the primaris are not op, you have a librarian, and a dred. i say you are good to PURGE THE HERETEKS.

>>53906378

Abaddon is a scary, charismatic guy and a really strong melee combatant. You really don't want to duel that guy, or deal with the huge warbands he can rally to his banner heading for your system.

So yeah even at his worst, there are things Abaddon does right. It's just that he's either portrayed accidentally as a shitty general, or more recently the story bends over backwards to suck his cock and insists "NO HE TOTALLY MEANT TO DO THAT, IT WAS PART OF HIS PLAN"

Honestly I have no issue with him being a terrifying warlord but a shit general, nobody's perfect.

>>53905996
So Chaos marines have the Tau bubble of retardation?
Where their enemies go retarded instead of actually working with properly?

Eldar have two craft worlds in the eye of terror operating there and didn't notice?
That is some Tau level plot armour

>>53905299
rollon

>>53906157
I enjoyed.

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>>53905299
JK rollin

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So in 8th you get no cover from intervening models.
In addition, go to ground does not exist and there are few ways to receive more than +1 from cover.
So is there any reason to take gretchin as cannon fodder instead of objective squatters?

>>53906428
Even is he was a great general, having to wrangle a bunch of disparate chaos assholes would be a burden.

>>53904540
> £50 for 10 basic infantry models.

During the last GW sale, they were stuffing 'bargain bags' With SoB. I got two squads, a Cannoness and a Repressor for £10.

The last GW sale was a long time ago though. 2001 or something. I also picked up Gorkamorka and Digganob for £20... and 30 metal Diggas for another £10.

They don't do sales anymore :<

>>53906474
Use them as ammo runts if you want the ablative wounds.

>Necrons are built up since 3rd edition as the architects of the Cadian Pylons
>The Silent King is introduced as a guy who stayed awake the whole time and was very invested in holding the Galaxy together
>Fall of Cadia happens
>One bored museum curator shows up to do tech support
>Doesn't even bring his army

>>53906497
He is busy with nids.

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in your guys opinion, what is the best loadout for a hellbrute, personally im thinking either lascannon with either fist/scourge or plasma cannon with some melee arm. thoughts?

>>53906497
Yeah, pretty bummed they didnt do a new Necron release, or at least add decent fluff.

>>53906473
>amazing looking board
>unpainted models

It hurts. That board is wasted.

>>53906480
>two squads, a canoness and a repressor for £10
fuck I'm jelly

>>53906474
yeah. charactor field. they have to target the closest, so create a circle of gretchen around ya boss, and only take gits from the back.

2000 pts. Every tank I own.

Battallion detachment

Captain with relic blade, 95

Company commander with plasma pistol, power axe, 40

5 tactical marines with plasma cannon, combi-flamer, 97

10 tactical marines with flamer, heavy bolter, 149

10 guard infantry with heavy bolter and flamer, 55

Chimera with multilaser and heavy bolter, 93

Rhino, 72

Razorback with TL assault cannon, 100

Spearhead detachment

Techmarine with conversion beamer, 83

Deimos predator with plasma destroyer and 2 heavy bolters, 177

Predator with autocannon and 2 heavy bolters, 171

Predator with TL lascannon and 2 heavy bolters, 172

Spearhead detachment

Techmarine with conversion beamer, 83

Leman Russ with battle cannon, 3 heavy bolters 178

Relic sicaran venator with 3 heavy bolters, 275

Vindicator 160

>>53906533
>unpainted models

Probably a WAACfag's newly switched army.

>>53906529

"Have you tried turning them off and on again?" - Trazyn the Infinite.

Anyone tried Fire Prism in 8e? Is it shit, or runable?

A Helbrute with 2 power fists gets into a boxing match with Marneus Calgar. Who wins?

>>53906572
>"We did that already, can you come down here?"
>"Ughhh, alright. I'll send the Space Marine temps to check it out."

>>53906533
thats a neoprene mat. gw sells them for £40.

>>53906525
Autocannon/Twinbolter + Scourges or Fist Combi-bolter + Scourge. I like consistency over rolling D3/D6 shot.

>>53906533
Was at my local warhammer stores mega battle. Was really surprised that everyone's shit was unpainted. The Primiris Marine forces were understandable cuz it was release day. Upon further investigation everyone there seemed terrified of painting.

Do chainswords stack? Like if I have 2 attacks normally, and take 2 chainswords, do I get 4 attacks?

>>53906533

That's a GW store anon.

>>53906611

Each chainsword gives +1 chainsword attack.