Paizo Games General /pgg/

>>53884270
what is this, a tavern for ants?

>>53884270
If I wanted to hear tall tales I'd read whatever the equivalent of Homer is.

>>53884393
>>53884270
Speaking of stories...
>Spiriting of the Flower Court II: Ichabod Gambles for his Freedom (and the evidence)
give me a few to finish it up.

Why are there no wizard archetypes that give up scribe scroll without giving up other bonus feats? I want bonus feats and an arcane school but not scribe scroll.

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>>53884506
Why don't you ask your GM if you can swap it out for an arcane discovery?

>>53884840
Not really. To my knowledge, the closest thing is a Contemplative, but they're very far from being the same.

REMINDER
If you're not on this list, you're officially out of running for Chalice:
Amena bint Rima
Asmund Rohrbach
Delnora Costigan
Jessup "Jess the Fair" Kruegen
Kyoot
Laila al-Massoud
Mora Tulsa
Neelu Aria
Odessa Casilieris
Rainyday Tamarnell
Tarkus Talgran
Walice
This is the preliminary player list for Chalice.

>>53884419
I POST THE THING!
https://pastebin.com/SYcfHh6L

Now I'm gonna take a bit of a break before the next one. Hopefully some strong meme ideas will catch my fancy until then!

>>53884932
VOTE OR DIE
http://www.strawpoll.me/13229240

We were on page 7, damn it. We really need to stop making threads on page 7.

>>53885085
>MUH PAGE 7
You really need to stop being so anal about it.

>>53885085
That was fucking two hours ago. That thread is on page 9 now. Stop being such a fucking crybaby.

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http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uerg?Group-Looking-for-Friday-Night-GM#1

Who wants to run a game for Ssalarn?

Come on, let's start up a Roll20 and have Ssalarn be an auto-accepted app!

>>53885453
2HU
RUN A GAME FOR SSALARN
HAVE YOUR ENEMIES USE SOM

When evaluating a class, do you value it being thematically coherent more than mechanically coherent?

>>53885573
Different forms of evaluation. One is how much right it has to exist at all, the other is how many people would ever play it.

>>53885573
Both is nice, but you can't do much without mechanics aside from take feats to try to fill in the gaps.

>>53884940
This is cute. I like it!

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>>53885453
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uerg?Group-Looking-for-Friday-Night-GM#1

>Preference would be an adventure path or a story in a predefined setting so that everyone is on the same page. Players willing to suggest and provide adventure modules.

What's the best AP to run for Ssalarn? Maybe Hell's Rebels?

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>>53885453
>>53885903
Oh wait wait wait, what if we try to drag Ssalarn into a lewdgame?

>>53885718
What if it's trying to fill a mechanical gap rather than a fluff gap? And is going the way of 4e, where making the playstyle unique is more important than explaining what it's doing to get those effects?

>>53885977
I don't care. If it can't fit a mechanical gap without making sense then that mechanical gap doesn't exist in the first place. If there is no such thing as magical healing in a setting and the game is otherwise designed around "if you get hurt you might bleed the fuck out or be crippled", then obviously a magical / (Ex.) healer doesn't make much sense, even if it's a "classic role" in most games. Mechanical gaps only exist in the context of a system setting; if you try to make a Song of Swords realistic fightan man or an Eien Shinken *blows up twelve universes by unsheathing sword* character in Pathfinder, that might be a "mechanical gap" but it's not one that matters.

>where making the playstyle unique
4e was a game that played like a 4x game or an MMO in battle. If you make the playstyle unique you best be able to tell me why it can do the things you can or at least make it easily explained through house fluff, not handwave nonsensical abilities in favor of "good gameplay"; as an RPG, if I can't be immersed in what my character is doing, it's already become bad gameplay because I can't imagine the "role" I'm fulfilling.

>>53886134
You do realize in trying to take this to hyperbole right? Not that I'm actually writing a fluff-less class?

>>53886134
>4e was a game that played like a 4x game or an MMO in battle.
I hate this stupid fucking meme. It couldn't be further from the truth, yet all the retarded grognards like you drone about it constantly.

>>53886174
I'm just telling you what I think. If you have a class feature, it should make thematic sense, or at least be justifiable. Sure, the dedicated huge strong guy class can have an ability to hurl a spear massive distances, because spear-throwing is a way to show off strength. But if he's healing shit all of a sudden and tossing polar rays, that's a little harder to explain, although I could see a high-level thing where you can punch the air and have an explosion thirty feet away from the pressure wave. Before you ask, I'm not a huge fan of casters doing everything either, although you can sort of see it with them as "well I studied ALL magic" just like a fighter might've studied all types of traditional combat (he's just shit anyway).
The idea is that there's got to be some sort of justification, not just filling out the blanks in your dedicated balance list - after all, there's absolutely nothing stopping a Barbarian from ditching her axe and picking up a bow or a Paladin reading off loads and loads of scrolls, or otherwise unorthodox builds, and you will never achieve perfect balance because of this.

>>53886201
>meme
4e is much more tactical than 3e, 3.5e, or 5e. It's not meant as an insult, it's meant as a statement of fact.

>>53886267
Tactical doesn't mean MMO or 4x.
4e doesn't have any of the defining mechanics of the MMO genre. No aggro tables, no cooldowns, nothing like that.

>>53884940
Nicely done, Storyfriend. Maybe something about forbidden love and Jericho next?

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So I asked last time and didn't get an answer. What's the name of Tuvarkz's game again?

Nodachi of the Righteous?
Ladyknights of the Righteous?
Spaghetti of the Righteous?
Impersonators of the Righteous?

Do you think Tuv likes meidos? Can I be a maid ladyknight with a nodachi?

Didn't Tuvs bamboozle his own Hell's Rebels game?

VOTE NOW OR BE FORGOTTEN BY HISTORY
http://www.strawpoll.me/13229240

>>53886292
"Spicy NTR: The princess steals Jericho from the King" technically is on the list.
We'll see what comes next.

>>53886315
I personally dubbed it "Wrath of the (possibly) Righteous" in my archives.

>>53886315
Do you think Tuv would ERP with my cute Ladyknight if I apped to his game?

>>53886267
So a swordsman being so flashy that he inspires those around him to be better at sword fighting would be on the table for you?

A healer able to channel and let all of her allies reroll their saves against ongoing effects?

What about a gish able to copy spells back like he's using a sharingan?

>>53886316
summarize each character more than just their class and race

>>53886385
All of those are fine as long as they're thematic. If the class is about being flashy then most of his moves should be able being flashy or awe-inspiring; a healer who's about retconning effects after they take place shouldn't be able to heal normally as well as others; and so on. Just have a theme.

>>53886425
>>53886316
Yeah, /pgg/as can't be trusted to vote based on name and race alone, and they can't be trusted to read all the apps either. They're fucking stupid.

>>53884932
>>53884997
Why would I, or anyone, give a shit?

>>53886325
Oooh, that sounds nice! A heated, royal love triangle.

>>53885152
It had just entered pg. 7 when I wrote that. Three hours later, the thread was on pg. 10. Stop spamming shit for no reason. A good thread died for this.

>>53886479
This thread was created 90 minutes before your message, m80. I created it on page 7. Your whining was when it was on page 9.

>>53886479
Actually closer to 4 hours later, the thread is still alive. There's really no reason to create a new thread, but prestige and posturing runs deep in /pfg/ so I guess someone would be butthurt if they're not the ones to create the next thread.

>>53886315
What are Tuvvy's favorite hairstyles for Ladyknights?

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What are the best classes and archetypes for playing the "little magician girl in a purple-ish gothic lolita dress, with a doll" character type?

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>>53886575

3pp optional.

>>53886575
Grave Walker Witch.

>>53886575
Literally any spellcaster.

Any news about Adventurer's Armory 2?

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west (Closing in 5 days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home (Closing in 2 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80257/wrath-of-the-righteous (Closing in 3 Weeks)

>>53886575
Summoner

>>53886530
Undercut, the only proper hairstyle for ladyknights.

>>53886834
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5126499/round-2-dot-dot-dot-3 (Closing when Nut Milk delivered)

>>53886834
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west (Closing in 5 days)
Is it really that soon? When are we gonna get actual reviewanons for this game?

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How much do you optimize?

>>53886834
THE LIST IS GROWING SMALLER EVERY DAY, BROTHERS.

SOON WE SHALL BE FREE OF THE TAINT.

>>53886920
I optimize exactly as much as I need to within the confines of whatever concept I have in mind.

>>53886930
>THE LIST IS GROWING SMALLER EVERY DAY, BROTHERS.
>
>SOON WE SHALL BE FREE OF THE TAINT.
He doesn't even see Dragons 3 coming.

>>53886575
Summoner. The doll is your eidolon. Cqn't really think of a specific archetype.

>>53886943
Dragons 3 is never going to happen, what would it even be about?

>>53886969
Taking Rorys knot on the regular

>>53886969
>what would it even be about?
A very long, very public application process that ends with SE just picking a party of his SotJR friends (none of whom actually applied).

>>53886851
Wait, really? THAT'S the goal hair? I'm a little disappointed. None of my cute art has undercuts...
Do you have any undercut ladyknights? I'd like to at least see some examples, because I don't think I've seen any good ones before.

>>53886920
Character first, optimization second, and even then, it's usually just to see if a concept works. Pathfindee does surprisingly poorly in some regards. Always wqnted to make an gauntlet-using pugilist, but it's Unarmed Monk or bust, if you want "unarmed" combat.

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Guys, PathfinderWiki is fast now! It's fast now!

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>>53887020

>>53887020
>>53887036

Terrible. Those are carried by the face and outfit elements, not the SJW superdyke haircut.

>>53886999

I can't see a GM caring about this. It's a trivial refluff.

>>53887020
>>53887036
Hmm...I'm not really convinced. Braids and buns are both way cuter than this.

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>>53887135
>Braids

Mah nigga, it also gives the girl (or a guy) something to tug and play with.

How can other classes gain access to the Ranger spell list?

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http://www.dropdeadstudios.com/forum/#/20170618/end-of-the-playtest-5433830/

Is Spheres of Might more kill than ever before?

Have we lost faith in Jolly?

Reminder for you lazy anons to read the latest and hottest gossip around the Flower Court!
EP1: Mouse and Vandread https://pastebin.com/1CSgeLAT
EP2: Ichabod gambles for his freedom https://pastebin.com/SYcfHh6L

Taking ideas for EP3! Where is Wild Surge? I don't want to be creative alone!

>>53887325
>Taking ideas for EP3!

Derrin and Alexander suffer a case of mistaken gender identity, and upon taking off their clothes of a night of passion realize, too late, that the parts their partners have aren't the parts they wanted.

Cue awkward mumbling and sleeping on opposite sides of the bed.

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Do we really have to have a god damn pageant and circus surrounding every game with a popular GM and/or applicants?

>>53887355
Yes, welcome to Hell.

>>53887355
Considering Ensoulment seems to have been designed to be a pageant and circus campaign? Clearly.

>>53887355
Bread and circus, anon. For those who do not get the bread, there must be extra circus.
>>53887348
Added to the idea list!

>>53887348
>Derrin and Alexander suffer a case of mistaken gender identity, and upon taking off their clothes of a night of passion realize, too late, that the parts their partners have aren't the parts they wanted.
I get Alex thinking Derrin is a dude, but how in the nine hells is Derrin mistaking the bearded farmboy for a lady?

What is best grappler class? For the purposes of the question, assume PoW and PoW: E is allowed.

>>53887386
She thought she was actually hitting on the Empress.

>>53887386
Maybe he shaved and a series of amusing incidents in the bar cause him to have a high-pitched, girlish voice?

>>53887282
>Is Spheres of Might more kill than ever before?
SoM could not be more kill, it was DoA.

>Have we lost faith in Jolly?
Not even Jolly could save this product from the clutches of Ssalarn. Still it's disheartening to see our heroes of 3pp defeated like this.

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>>53887422
How much of it is Ssalarn and how much of it is Adam Meyers, who's just as bad if not worse?

>>53884997
>stupid meme kobold is at the top of the polls

Why bother?

Why is Paizo so biased against certain classes?

Like Fighter seems to just be getting shit on at every turn, even lore warden got nerfed not too long ago. The advanced training options are lackluster and usually restricted in use. And there are literally no items made for them to benefit from specifically like most other classes.
Kineticists too, since no element has a full level 1-9 set of powers unique to it, and two of the elements are just incomplete and bad. What even is Void supposed to be? Why not just make Negative and Gravity their own elements and not try to stitch the two together, both have plenty of potential.
Rogue's been almost entirely replaced by Vigilante
Antipaladins have been forgotten it seems, and while paladins get things like LN archetypes antipaladins get to sit in the never allowed to play corner of the alignment chart.

Also totally unrelated, but would it be possible to make a magic item thats an always active antimagic field?

>>53887459
Ssalarn was certainly the most visible negative influence since he was in charge of dismissing feedback with his typical undeserved condescension.

>>53887531
What did he mean by this?

>>53887325
Jericho and Rodrick begin their hotblooded rivalry

The man working for the kingdom out of obligation, and the man working for the people out for arrogance.

Wontcha give chaos a chance?

>>53887523
It's the Reverse Cabal. They're shilling their friends. I think that whole game is Reverse Cabal or randos, actually.

>>53887531
>when Mouse gets chosen and your app doesn't

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>>53887531
Why the fuck is it so blurry let me try again

>>53887547
Tarot autism

>>53887574
I just went down the list
Also, Mouse is weird because she's written as such a meme troubled character that she fit a ridiculous number of tarot cards, which are memes to begin with. You can see Vandread having the same thing going on. C3, Takashi, and Rae aren't really like that, they just have a lot of qualifiers. People like Witch or Derrin aren't barebones, they just don't match up to tarot well.

>>53887597
>Tarot autism
Any chance for an explanation of what any of this means for those of us who don't know what the fuck is going on?

>>53887597
I know, I know. I'm just depressed. You did good, Anon. You did good.

>>53887597
Explain how I'm supposed to make sense of this

>>53887597
>only one upright Emperor, Alexander
>IV - the Emperor
>Dependability, Father Figure, Security, Protection, Logic, Masculinity
Alex is the greatest of the daddies.

My response below raised a question I want to pose to the thread: If a player was playing, say, a bloodrager or building an Eldritch Knight, would ju allow said player to progress in unarmed combat as if they were a monk, obviously with the caveat that their abilities would be tied to that and that they'd eschew other free proficiencies and foci (unless taken as independent feats, obviously).

I can't see the harm in it, which is probably the reason monks are considered pretty bad; their entire deal is about treating their unarmed attacks as something everyone else satisfies with blunt objects.

>>53887072
What is a trivial refluff? I was never a fan of the idea of taking something like a greatsword and just calling it unarmed, especially if we take progression into account. And while many GM:s would probably allow you to progress like a monk just for asking and then just calling your unarmed attacks gauntlets, it makes it hard to theorize before you have a game and a GM to argue with.

>>53887597
Yeah, can you explain this?

>>53887597
>Witch
>not Death (Reversed)
you did goofed

>>53887151
I'll probably just go with my braid art, honestly. This undercut business just isn't inspiring me.

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>>53884270

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>>53887151

I prefer horns to tug on of course

>>53887658
KENABRES
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>>53887554
Well, that's retarded. Why even bother applying?

Wouldnt it be smarter to take like 4 people out of the first 10 who show up, run session 0 right away and then decide if you wanna run with them?
instead of waiting for this month long slot machine?

in the end, only thing that matters is that they actually commit to showing up on time every week

>>53887656
Happy birthday, dampbirb!

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>>53887668

Tieflings can want to fight the demons both within and without

>>53887640
>What is a trivial refluff?

The most popular types are refluffing class abilities and items to be something else. For example, a Barbarian's rage can be described as "battle-calm" or a "martial trance" as much as a savage anger, or a breastplate can be refluffed as a finely-crafted hauberk or suit of chain.

>>53887674
Well, you can't apply anymore. Yesterday was the deadline.

Presumably you could have applied for the hell of it, or if you had a fetish for brown people, since only one other /pgg/ game really targeted that itch.

But you'll still have to deal with the Reverse Cabal.

>>53887631
>>53887622
>>53887642
You guys have never heard of tarot symbolism? It's the reason why drawing the Five of Swords from the Deck of Many Things summons a Dread Wraith and the Tower always fucks you up.
I honestly have no idea how reliable these sites are, didn't use them, but try these.
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/learn/meanings/
https://www.thetarotguide.com/major-arcana

>>53887649
Why is Witch Death (Reversed)? Isn't she past the fear of humans already at the beginning of the campaign?

>>53887697
Well they did do the whole battle calm with dreadnought.

>>53887675
But that doesn't garner a ton of attention from the rabble here. That's basically what happens here anyway, celebs are picked in inordinate numbers because they've been proven to be reliable.

>>53887554
What the fuck is the Reverse Cabal

>>53887656

In honor of RiverHawk's Cakeday. Post your THICCest character concepts.

All forms of thicc are acceptable.

>>53887597
Reminder that C3 has a deck of mithral tarot cards in her backpack.

>>53887728
>>53887675
That's how we used to do things around here. Anon would post a Discord link or Roll20 application, and when it filled up the DM would separate the wheat from the chaff.

>>53887533
But Meyers let him get away with it

>>53887761

That is actually a decent idea. I might do that when I feel like DMing again

>>53887721
Well, clearly my idea that Death had something to do with actual death was incorrect.
As far as her aversion to humans goes, by no means is she "past" it - she's starting to get used to it little by little, but she's still firmly leaning against her spirits for stability in her life. She has literally zero human relationships at the start of the campaign.

>>53887744
The Anti-Cabal formed in the wake of the Cabal's formation.
They're like the Legion of Doom, or the Secret Society of Super Villains.

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>>53887746

Gladiator lady, who comes into the adventuring game after a mid life crisis and six kids.

>>53887794
XIII Death is hardly one of the best cards you can get but it doesn't necessarily mean the literal death of anything. The one you're looking for is XVI The Tower or the Five of Swords.

>>53887806
Explain.

>>53887746
Drow magus somehow built to grapple you with her thighs and slit your throat with a shocking grasp dagger for PLD

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>>53887746
Something something Kellid tribeswoman something something

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>>53887746

Raijin

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>>53887746
FloatingRaptor's first Starfinder character.

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>>53887867
That's shit and you know it's shit, the only proper character for Starfinder would be a xenophiliac faithful of Oras seeking to acquire as many genetic samples from as many species as possible to create the perfect being.

>>53885903
Iron Gods if you really wanna rub it in.

>>53887697
Oh, yeah, no, I know what a refluff is, I meant more like in this case.

>>53887808
...starting again from a lvl 1 commoner, I assume?

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>>53887867

he's already gone on record and said that he'd build a busty MEC Trooper.

>>53887891
NowListenHereYouYoungWhipperSnapper.jog

So, ladyknight memes aside, which WotR apps look the best? Which do you think will get in?

>>53887932
So what are we up to now? Brain-in-a-jar Merc, Meat in a Suit Soldier, and Busty quad-amputee MEC Trooper? What else do we need now, a nervous heavily-modified Mechanic girl?

>>53887529
They like vancian casting. They like it a lot. They also believe that the more compatible something is with 'the average man' the less it is allowed to not-suck.

These are then pasted onto a fantasy world, which exacerbates the problem.

This is why Crossbows must suck: It's not realistic if they're fast, it's not balanced in rustydagger shanktown if they hit hard with good penetration, and it's unacceptable for the peasant weapon to be of use if it's easy to learn the basics of because the "hard to master" weapon of the elves and robin hood has to be the best of them.

>>53887746

a sort of female version of a muscle wizard

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>>53887892
Why Iron Gods?

>>53887967
To be fair though, the entire point of a crossbow is that it's piss-easy to use, but like most weapons that are piss easy to use, doesn't inherently get better as you get better at using it.

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>>53887989

damn image didn't post

I've asked before but didn't get a response and it was like 5-6 threads ago. What's the best Adventure Path? For a completely green d20/Pathfinder GM, if that's of relevance (but I've GM'd other things).

>>53887348
Okay, it's time for Episode III!
>Derrin tries to Shag a Ghost

hopefully I don't need to be all too drunk for this

>>53888015
>For a completely green d20/Pathfinder GM

Rise of the Runelords, run Burnt Offerings for a party and see if they like the taste.

>>53888015
RotRL

>>53886834
>Ensoulment closes in a week
>no reviewanons

>>53888022
Try to keep it under 13 pages

>>53887994
anon, guns are piss easy to use and you still have to practice a bunch if you want to be able to consistently hit shots

>>53887960
There really aren't any particularly strong apps in this group. Seraphina is probably the best of the bunch.

>>53888038
Protag has been offering reviews throughout the process, no need for external reviewanons.

>>53888068
His reviews are much lower quality than his average, and he admits he got overwhelmed. In other words, we need reviewanons now more than ever.

>>53887746


Some sort of bloatmage that instead of blood, she just gets thiccer

>>53888068
Hi Malfeas, try to be a little less obvious next time.

>>53888038
>PLD closes in 6 days
>No review anons and only 5 real apps
The kicker is there's still like 5 people saying they'll post apps but haven't yet.

>>53888092
That's vile, there's a difference between voluptuous and fat.

>>53887746
Synth summoner. You thought she was pretty thicc when you met her, but then she summoned her eidolon and shit got a whole lot thiccer.

>Captcha reads "parking megalong"

>>53888122
>vile, there's a difference between voluptuous and fat

Yeah but this is SEagle. he probably would enjoy that.

>>53888063
Evidently they weren't being used before now were they? A bow is also piss easy to "use" if you mean drawing the string, as you evidently mean pulling the trigger here.

>a bunch
How much? Guns need maybe a fortnight of drill if that to do the basics. A crossbow, much the same. Most of this stuff is practice aiming and maintenence. That's not "a bunch" to me. A bow needs a year at minimum to consistently hit anything; after a fortnight, you might be able to get the arrow firing off the string instead of dropping or going sideways. Also, bows are not mechanical in the way a gun or crossbow is. A bow fires (almost) as fast as you can shoot it (ignoring the ringdown period, which is generally insigificant compared to a crossbow's rewinding period), and you can overdraw or underdraw bows because they depend on your strength. A crossbow is valued because it is consistent and easy to use - not because it's more effective than a master bowman, it isn't. The only way to improve your efficiency with a crossbow is to get better at aiming - which you can do with a normal bow too. After that? You need to upgrade the crossbow itself.

>>53888068
>no need for external reviewanons
Protag has admitted to not being able to give very complete reviews, for reasons of both impartiality and time. All the more reason external reviewanons are necessary.

>>53888110
Who's the best out of the apps right now?
RgPI > Red > Kawase > the other two, I'd say?

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>>53887808
>Matronly Mendev Paladin picking up the sword and shield to once more protect her home after a couple decades being a caring mother and loving wife.

>>53887960
Do we have enough meme/celeb applications to fill out a party yet?

Looking for PFS race boons. Willing to pay for them. Gimme a mail, let's work something out.

[email protected]

>>53888068
>no need for external reviewanons
Protagonist is specifically not "upgrading" apps. He's not saying how to improve your application, he's telling you how to improve your writing and presentation or if there's actual contradictions between your character and the setting.

>>53888196
>mail.com
:thinking:

>>53888196
Fuck off!

>>53888149
this is some fucking advanced bow wanking

>>53888174
Tk over kawase

Where's the mad alchemists? The mute bard?

>>53888188
Major celebs
>Kawase
>Sappy
>IKiD
Minor celebs
>CountSuccula
>Halae
>Miao

Looks like just enough if you're willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

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>>53888174
Holy shit, RogueMortal shits all over Kawase.

Kawase is probably the worst one, and that's including the Rando

>>53888233
>unironically arguing that an experienced crossbow user was more effective than an experienced bowman
The exception is at close range, where certain types of crossbows punch through lighter forms of armor in ways bows usually can't, but the main advantage of crossbows was how easy they were to field compared to bows. Let me put it another way - some demigod with a bow could probably fire stronger than the same person with a crossbow, simply because a crossbow has a fixed strength output. You can't overdraw an arbalest the way you can fulldraw a composite bow. Makes sense?

>>53888264
I'm not seeing Hussar, explain?

>>53886851
Long, silky hair is the best, you sod.

>>53888267
Is that really what passes for celebrity these days? Truly gone are the heydays of Captain Slow.

>>53888267
None of those besides Sappy and IKiD can even pretend to be "celebs". I don't know what the fuck a minor celeb is.

>>53888301
I never argued that actual crossbow users were totally more effective than actual "expert bowman", I just said you're fucking wanking the bow too hard and sounding exactly like the paizo dev's justification for why crossbows are NEVER EVER allowed to be anything more than a shitty useless meme weapon.

>>53888306
Only in a ponytail

>>53888301
Fox wife is good material to work with, and he slots into an existing faction

He's making an obvious attempt to appeal to Vult s mundane preferences

>>53888306
What about hair color? I really want to go with red, Tuv. Is that alright?

>>53888315
>>53888323
Kawase is an infamous member of the Reverse Cabal, and has accumulated enough hate in the thread to qualify as a celeb, I'd say.

>>53888315
Even Rory is gone

Truly the darkest timeline

>>53888315
Sappy and IKiD are just as notorious as Slow, now. He slowed down, stopped applying to things. Even Kawase is gaining on him.

>>53888325
>wanking the bow too hard
I'm not wanking if I'm stating facts you moron.
>"expert"
Actual expert crossbowmen and actual expert bowman.
>shitty useless meme weapon
Because they're literally a mechanical weapon with a fixed output. How the fuck would you even make it better? All I can see is letting Gunslinger or similar engineer types upgrade it to a repeating adamantite arbalest or something, but then hand that to a peasant and it's the same fucking thing. You CAN'T HAVE A CROSSBOW THAT'S MORE EFFECTIVE IN THE HANDS OF A DEMIGOD WITHOUT CHANGING HOW A CROSSBOW FUCKING WORKS YOU TARD

>>53888331
Oh, true. But does that mean he's asking to get himself NTR'd when his fox wife gets stolen?

>>53888299
>>53888301
>>53888264
I have to go over the app again yeah, somehow the tone went from dominant to background to subby as I wrote it, shit's fucked.

>>53888362
Is the reverse cabal just what we're calling the open discord now?

>accumulated enough hate
You know what? I thought so too, but at this point I don't think it's a thing anymore and am fairly sure shitting on me is itself a meme.

>>53888442
I think so. Originally, there was just one Discord, and one Cabal.
Then the Cabal left, leaving a Discord, but nature abhors vacuum, so a new, shadowy group rose to take the Cabal's place, and swore oaths of eternal vengeance against the vile celebs that had left them to rot.

The Reverse Cabal was born, and their first act of villainy was to create and unleash Unwist upon the thread.

>>53888381
That's not strictly correct. You could have some of the upgrades require 20 Str to turn the winch, for example, or be able to be pre-winched at 20 Str and last six shots, after which you'd need to re-winch.

>>53888487
I still don't know who Unwist is supposed to be.

>>53888442
>Pretending that you're not shitting on yourself anonymously every thread in a desperate attempt to stay relevant
It's an interesting tactic, let's see how it plays out for him.

>>53888095

>when anon thinks its you but they are wrong

>>53888513
I don't shit on myself anonymously because if I want to shit on myself for being a retard early on I'll do so openly. Also, if I wanted for whatever damn reason to stay relevant, I'd rather just get into an ebin meme game. Or label OC.

>>53888501
They used a combination of dark magics and forbidden science to create Unwist. Now, it has grown powerful enough to escape their bonds, and the Unwist runs rampant, growing ever stronger with each post it makes and each (you) it collects.

>>53888547
t. Unwist

>>53888381
>what is uncannily good aim to make impossibly precise shots
>what is magic
>what is pathfinder being a magical fantasy game and not reality

You are sperging out super hard because I said you're jerking off to bows too hard. You are in fact jerking off to bows too hard, because you feel the need to insist that the mere notion of bows being anything but DA BES means everyone else is retarded and not just sick and tired of bows being the only viable ranged weapon in their high fantasy game.

>>53888541
>Waiting a half hour before implying it wasn't you
Good job, you're learning now.

>>53888557
>what is uncannily good aim to make impossibly precise shots
Possible with bows.
>what is magic
Not unique to crossbows.
>magical fantasy game and not reality
aka "I'm out of arguments so it's fantasy it doesn't have to make sense xDDDD"

>You are in fact jerking off to bows too hard, because you feel the need to insist that the mere notion of bows being anything but DA BES means everyone else is retarded and not just sick and tired of bows being the only viable ranged weapon in their high fantasy game.
Nice memes, I never did, you're projecting. Bows aren't even my favorite ranged option, javelins are - and javelins are as bad as or fucking worse than crossbows, which at least retain some sort of edge utility at lower levels for wizards and shit.

>>53888586
It was a new IP.

>>53887008
H-hayai!

>>53887008
oh wow it's true

>>53888597
I don't know what the fuck you want me to say to you, considering I never even disagreed with the concept of "bow is better"

>>53888553
>https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unwist

>>53888547
Unwist is a virus, likely one descended from Wist. It's well known that aaas are infectious. I've determined at least three of them in the wild with different levels of aaa and different modus operandi.

>>53888213
>cries about bad behavior on 4chan

>>53888210
Yeah I'm gonna use a throwaway on this shithole.

>>53888610
>Pretending to be ignorant of cellphones in the year of our lord 2017
Now you're falling back into bad patterns again.

>>53888669
...shit.

>>53888264
I thought there was only one mad alchemist guy.

>>53888685
aaaaaaaaaaaa

>>53888707
zzzzzzzzzzzz

>>53887597
So like

What does this mean

For like Takashi

please expain

>>53888746
It's a slam dunk.

aaaaaaaa I can't finish my ensoulment app based on unrequited love!

>>53888707
Remember to limit yourself to three aaas. Any higher an amount puts yourself at risk of contamination.

>>53888773
H-he's heating up?!

>>53888700
One said they would have a backstory connected to Gloriana, but they chickened out.

>>53888746
It doesn't mean anything not already in your app, it's just fortune telling memes. It doesn't mean anything for Mouse, CCC, Itsuko, etc. either, I just tried my best to match up what I remembered of Tarots to the stuff posted on app pages.

>>53888774
It's really not that hard. If you're going to write it I want to see it VI The Lovers (Reversed), XXI The World (Reversed), but you're probably just meming so.

>>53888794
HE'S ON FIRE!

>>53888801
I mean I just don't understand, shits too complex n dumb.

>>53888377
Slow has acquired the games he wanted and checked his ambition before his reach exceeded his grasp. I'd call that wise.

>>53888774
You have nearly two weeks, what could possibly be standing in your way?

>>53888817
Well then just don't mind it, our schedules are incompatible anyway so it's not like you'll see me drawing tarots for Takashi anyway.

>>53888815
BOOMSHAKALAKA

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>>53887008
Now you chickenheads have no excuse to make canon-breaking characters.

>>53888826
I'm not sure getting blown the fuck out by memedog counts as checking ambition

>>53888797
I naturally assume that every "I have a great idea for an app, but I'm never going to actually do it" post is just a celeb trying to pawn their second and third character concepts off on the thread in the hopes that somebody might pick it up.

>>53888835
Uhm.

Ok?

>Bored and want to do some review anon-ing
>Game I want to do reviews for is one I've also already applied for

I feel like it might be weird to do this. If I did it, I'd still give honest critique, but it still feels kind of strange to do.

How much detail is too much detail when making your character's inventory? I'm at that point where I can start buying fluffy items, but now I'm just hitting that omnipresent wall of just what the fuck sorta things a character would carry around.

>>53888850
What's the story here?

>>53888888
Shit get

>>53888854
It's true. I do it all the time.

>>53888888
>Sextuple get

just do it fag, what's the worst that could happen?
which game?

>>53888888
>888888

>>53888888
That didn't stop Disk, and it shouldn't stop you.

Now go, and roll!

>>53888888
Hey man, I write stories for characters in a game I've applied to as well. The digits clearly have spoken.

>>53888888
That never stopped Disk.

>>53888888
Disk and Nameless Fairy both did this. Go for it!

>>53888906
>>53888917
>>53888922
>>53888925
Well shit, I guess that means I -have- to do it now, can't just disobey gets like that. Game is Wrath of the Righteous. Outrage aside, I am still treating it seriously.

>>53888870
Okay?
I mean what did you want me reply with, some sort of full breakdown of every tarot card? I can do a superficial version I guess?

>III The Empress
In this case I'm going for the "Art" and "Recreation" aspect of it, not the other stuff.

>V The Hierophant (Reversed)
In context, the fucking of tradition and the introduction of new things, good or bad.

>VII The Chariot
Hard work, focus, determination, the drive to win.

>XIII Death
Change, upheaval, and the end of certain things.

>XVII The Star
Creativity and Inspiration.

>XIX The Sun
Self expression, optimism, freedom, and knowing how to have fun.

>XXI The World
Accomplishment but really You got the world beneath your feet~

>>53888700
He hasn't posted yet?

Why is Kawase the only one apping as a drow?

Are Scaled Fist and Tetori compatible?

>>53889009
Nope

>>53889001
Because nobody else is an edgy retard like me and nobody else appreciates being a living relic from a species everyone thinks is extinct.

>Derrin was naked.

yea that's how to begin a story alright

>>53889032
Dude just post it when you're done.

>>53889032
Derrin needs that 15 inch demondick!

>>53889068
Which one was the one who rolled an elf-sized dick as a tiefling?

>>53889021
PLD Drow aren't even that edgy by normal standards. theyre just sexy dark skinned sluts.

>>53889076
True. Also probably because Vult wanted a dominant type this time and I don't know about anyone else but in my mind, elves are always hardsubs.
I was going for the "watches you as her skeletons do the hard work" or "rides you while having Corpsecrafter Skeletons hold you down" angle, but even I can tell that isn't getting across so much I needed a seperate section.

>>53889073
It certainly wasn't Best Boy Jericho!

>>53889135
If you've got doubts, edit it out. Make changes and amendments.

>>53888953
Do Noriel.

>>53889153
>edit it out
Edit it in, you mean, and that's what I'm scratching my fucking head over. Because thing is, she's not supposed to be naturally dominant, she's supposed to be doing it as a way of assuring herself she still has control over her life. The angle I'm going for here is "deranged PC who wishes she were an NPC again".

>>53889135
>I don't know about anyone else but in my mind, elves are always hardsubs.
Tbh that's a well-known fact.

>>53889181
Yes, yes, I was rhyming because I have a brain disease. But make your changes and I'll take a look!

>>53887746

I had originially thought of the idea of a country girl Witch where she carries around a cauldron to do some home cooking in and rides around on a rifle instead of a broom

>>53889163
I'm planning to. I think I'll start at the top and move my way down. Once my lunch break hits I'll probably get started.

Adventuring Gear: adventurer's sash, charcoal, climber's planks, clockwork false teeth, common cane, common false teeth, conversation tube, crutch, dusk lantern, elegant cane, gauntlet magnet, hollow cane, masterwork false teeth, mirror ball, nautical chart, pantograph, rope recaller, simple cane, spring loaded scroll case, treasure chest (Small), treasure chest (medium), treasure chest (Large), treasure chest (Huge), wheelchair, wing sheaths

Alchemical Remedies: anesthetic wine, curative myrrh, liquid breeze, Minkaian ceremonial tea, surgical jelly, troll styptic

Alchemical Tools: beast-scent, ghost ink, gloomstick, spirit-vision ink

Alchemical Weapons: acid bolt, alchemical fire bolt, darkflare, Kitumu's ire, liquid ice bolt, poison bolt, tress tincture

Armor
Light: reinforced tunic, spider-silk bodysuit, Varisian dancing scarves
Medium: chain coat, Erutaki coat
Heavy: Alkenstar fortress plate
Shields: dwarven war-shield, steel snarlshield, wooden snarlshield

Armor Modifications: Burnished, Deflecting, Double-Plated, Jarring, Nimble, Razored, Slumbering, Vitalguard

Clothing: burglar's outfit, chausses, corset, courtesan's outfit, dancer's garb, executioner's outfit, gambeson, headscarf, shinobi shozuoku, silk kimono, silver dancer's garb, sparring gear, squire's outfit, stiletto boots

Concoctions: Crystal-Sweet Concoction, Darting-Eye Concoction, Fear-Killer Concoction, Quick-Step Concoction, Slow-Heart Concoction, Snake-Tongue Concoction, Sphere-Song Concoction, Wild-Blood Concoction

Entertainment: imperial conquest

Equipment Packages: Arcane Adept, Daring Bravo, Holy Warrior, Lore Seeker, Mystic Guide, Questing Knight, Shadowy Stalker, Wilderness Wanderer

Equipment Tricks: Instrument, Ladder, Lantern, Mirror, Pole, Smokestick, Tanglefoot Bag, Thunderstone

So if I made an Elf Slayer/Ranger, would that be the perfect Legolas build?

>>53889265
Feats: Armor Adept (Combat), Craft Poppet (Item Creation), Creative Armorsmith (Combat), Creative Weaponsmith (Combat), Darting Viper (Comat), Dorn-Dergar Master (Combat), Equipment Trick (Combat), Hook Fighter (Combat), Improvisational Healer, Modification Mastery (Combat), Modification Trainer (Combat), Modified Weapon Proficiency (Combat), Poppet Familiar, Tool Optimizer, Weapon Adept (Combat)

Improvised Weapon Qualities: burning, covering, disk-shaped, gross, jagged, heavy, pronged, silverware, weapon-like

Kits: elemental explorer's kit, emergency interrogation kit, fiendslayer's kit, invisible enemies kit, undead survivor's kit, underground survival kit

Magic Items: gloves of improvised might, quickmetal bracers, ring of balanced grip, scrap collector's strap, small poppet, tiny poppet

Poisons: grinding joint paste, halo mushroom toxin, leng's tears, night's-eye dust, rainbow scarab shell, skinsap extract, sweetdream

Poppet Augmentations: agile, armored, durable, fleet, heavy lifter, mighty, nimble, scaling, sealed, soaring, swimming

Prepatory Gear: drowner's helm, hanging board, practice straitjacket, thief trainer

Special Materials: singing steel, sunsilver

Spells: allied cloak (bard 3, bloodrager 3, magus 3, occultist 2, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 3), billowing skirt (bard 2, inquisitor 2, occultist 2, shaman 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, witch 2), grappling scarf (bard 1, inquisitor 1, occultist 1, skald 1, sorcerer/wizard 1), restful cloak (cleric 2, druid 2, occultist 2, paladin 2, ranger 2, shaman 2), sculpted cape (bard 1, occultist 1, ranger 1, shaman 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1), surefoot boots (druid 2, occultist 2, ranger 2, shaman 2)

Tools: adamantine shears, dissipating fan, linguist's codex, lopping shears, offset bear trap, portable terrarium, sawtooth bear trap, small shears

>>53889265
>>53889287
???

>>53889265
>>53889287
Traits: Amiable Briber (Social), Bountiful Herb-Lore (Magic), Eye for the Wondrous (Magic), Gifted Smuggler (Social), Master Messenger (Social), Well-Provisioned Adventurer (Equipment)

Weapon Modifications: Brutally Weighted, Dual-Balanced, Jagged Hooks, Razor-Sharp, Serrated Edge, Tactically Adapted, Versatile Design

Weapons*
Simple, Two-Handed: lantern staff

Martial, Light: boarding axe, cat-o'-nine-tails, dueling dagger, tri-bladed katar
Martial, One-Handed: cutlass

Exotic, Light: drow razor, dwarven war-shield, flying talon, sanpkhang, waveblade
Exotic, One-Handed: sickle-sword, spiral rapier
Exotic, Two-Handed: boarding gaff, butchering axe, chain-hammer, dwarven dorn-dergar, fauchard, gnome battle ladder, gnome piston maul, gnome ripsaw glaive, switchscythe
Exotic, Ranged: flask thrower, orc hornbow, stormshaft javelin

*All weapons have their fighter weapon groups listed.

>>53888025
>>53888026
Huh, so many years and they never topped the first adventure?

>>53889208
>>53889135
Elves have super dominant personalities, though. Innately passionate, kinda totally fucking crazy. They aren't a subby race at all. Neither meek nor submissive, they're vivacious and dynamic.

>>53889302
>butchering axe
GIB SCREENSHOT

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>>53887656
>>53887683
>>53887746


Thanks guys, try no to tear the place down while i spend my evening at work.

>>53887808
>>53887835
>>53887850
>>53887864
>>53888092
>>53888126

Clearly you're all mistaken. Clearly you need a cleric of Kugess that's currently on her bulking diet.

>>53887867
>>53887932
Well either that or an bodyguard android that had to be transferred to a pleasure bot during an emergency.

>>53889319
It's because they're so incredibly dominant that they need to be broken in.

>>53887963

Have gun Will Travel Ysokai Envoy, Imagine rat dude in a nice suit for rugged travels in a cowboy hat who's part Paladin part Colombo and chomps on space Black and Milds.

>>53889338
That just makes you a predatory sadist, though. You don't appreciate your partner at all. You want to destroy them.
You may require smiting, friend

>>53889135
So does Vult want to sub, or does he just want a 5th that isn't like the others?

Would you bend over Vult's DMPC fuck sleeve?

>>53889265
>Alchemical Weapons: acid bolt, alchemical fire bolt, darkflare, Kitumu's ire, liquid ice bolt, poison bolt, tress tincture
>ACID BOLT

FUCKERS AT PAIZO READING MY MIND, TOO BAD IT'LL BE TOO EXPENSIVE TO EVER CONSIDER USING

>>53889398
I think Vult's actual wording was "I don't need a fourth breeding slave".

>>53888797
>>53888854
Well, since the original guy was a chicken, I could try it out. Of course, my idea probably won't work out so well because the alchemist wouldn't lust after Gloriana.

>>53889402
Just invest in a sorcerer with Full Pouch!

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>>53889287
>billowing skirt (bard 2, inquisitor 2, occultist 2, shaman 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, witch 2)

Will this be a lewd spell?

>>53889432
Honestly, only way I can see it being worthwhile is if it deals damage like a splash weapon and is loaded in a crossbow like it implies. Alchemists would have a field day with it, though then you'd have alchemists blowing all their 2nd level slots on Full Pouch.

Still mediocre, and I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD IF THAT ANON POSTS IT AGAIN

>>53889422
Breeding slut, not breeding slave

And that's a fair request.

>>53887529
Yeah, they seem to have completely forgotten a lot of classes, and gotten spread extremely thin in regards to class-specific content. Every book can only accomodate so many classes, and between Unchained classes, Hybrid classes and Occult classes along with the Core, Base and Alternate classes, it's hard to produce a satisfactory amount of content and choices, and since many of these were released relatively close to eachother, some just flat-out lag behind a lot.

Look at Bloodrager. Solid-ass class based around the same idea of bloodlines as the Sorcerer, yet they don't have nearly as many to choose from as the sorcerer, and they only recwntly got one new one - Shadow - since forever.

And how many archetypes does Unchained Rogue have? It's absurd.

>>53889424
That isn't as good as the original

>>53889490
>And how many archetypes does Unchained Rogue have? It's absurd.

It has all the archetypes of chained Rogue, it's just that some of Chained Rogue's archetypes get altered slightly for URogue. (Phantom Thief, the new shadow archetype from LotFW).

>>53887529
>antipaladins get to sit in the never allowed to play corner of the alignment chart
Insinuator and Tyrant?

>>53888854
Honestly I do this all the time, not as a GM (mostly) but as a player. I pitch cool things that would fit the campaign or the group and my character in the hopes that one of the other players will actually bite and do it, instead of doing something that is usually either generic shit or snowflake shit.

>>53889500
I know, but just about everybody wants to fuck Gloriana already. Can't somebody appreciate her for her good heart without looking at her good rear?

>>53884997
I choose death.

>>53889517
This is not clear by PFSRD, nor how the various archetypes work with the two, since they're different. Summoner and Unchained Summoner is one of the few where I can see the archetypes being interchangeable, but Unchained Summoner actually have archetypes listed seperately.

>>53887529
>>53889524
Plus, Tyrant is way better than that LN Paladin archetype because he doesn't pay for the alignment change with his class abilities.

>>53889471
Ravioli ravioli don't lewd the 1d3+1+int touch attacks as a standard action at level eleven

>>53889592
Unchained Rogue is the one class that is explicitly noted as being able to take archetypes from the regular rogue, made all the more obvious by the fact that the only thing different is URogue has flat out MORE STUFF than core rogue.

The Unchained versions of Barbarian, Summoner, and Monk all require you to actually convert most archetypes, though Monk has some that specifically work with it (Monk of the Mantis, Scaled Fist, Invested Regent, and a few others).

>>53889618
It stopped being funny weeks ago, stop

>>53887746
An elf thuskchoon cultist who goes into near mindless states, much like her god, and shows down on anything near her; even if it's inedible.

>>53886201
>>53886283
>>53886385
This 4e=MMO isn't a meme, it's a description. The differences between 4e and Final Fantasy Tactics or 1000 Swords video game are next to nothing. The mechanics descriptions themselves lend themsel;ves to non-fluff actions that would be more like tactical combat on a grid because that's exactly what they work to emulate, instead of tactical combat in a 3d space. And that intense need for gridwork is why it feels like an MMO: you lay 4e like a chess game, not like an adventure.

That 4e players can't accept an actual description of what the game plays like is just more proof of their self-aggrandizing nature and they will still tell any 3.PF their game is perfect despite the fact they'll admit to it's imbalance and trap options anywhere BUT to 3.PF players.

>>53889562
But Anon, appreciating her good heart is the first step towards marriage

>>53889319
I've always seen Elves as dominant too, and if they assume a passive role it's as a power sub.

>>53889665
>The differences between 4e and Final Fantasy Tactics or 1000 Swords video game are next to nothing.
First of all, neither of the games you mentioned are even MMO's.
Second, there are more differences than similarities.
Third, why do I even bother trying to argue with brain-damaged grognards.

>>53889678
I don't think Gloriana would want to make a nerd, no matter how cute I can make him!

>>53889665
The cruel irony is that 4e was a response to all the problem of 3.5 and it actually fixed lot of the issues

And as a result of 4e's failure, we are stuck in 3.75th ed forever.

>>53887649
Death reversed is stagnation, immobility, lack of change, and stability past the point of safety and into the point of destruction.

>>53889700
There are some cliches to work with there, though. It could definitely work, but obviously friendship is just as admirable.
I encourage you to apply if you've thought about it this much already.

>Oouar-Ooung will never be your mommy
why even live

>>53889700
Her husband was an occult nerd.

>>53889319
>vivacious
Huh. Today I learned a new word.

>>53889772
It's a super apt elf word.

>>53889700
Tell that to Catmere

>>53889728
Death Reversed is essentially speaking the old Empire.

>>53889329
>Well either that or an bodyguard android that had to be transferred to a pleasure bot during an emergency.

Is she still adjusting to the powerful sensations of her new figure, and can't quite explain why she squirms or blushes at the once-familiar sights of her partners undressing in front of her?

>>53889665

FFT isn't an MMO.. I think the term you want is video game, or tactical game. Or tactical video game. Whatever.

I agree on most of the other points though. 4e's mechanics hugely relied on shuffling things around on a grid in very precise ways, like "knock opponent back three squares, move one square, recover 5 health". Even health was this oddly abstract system where people just decided to regenerate from their injuries if you shouted at them enough or hit someone with your mace or whatever.

I'd argue that's where 4e failed. Too many themes handwaved for sake of mechanics. Even if those mechanics played well people weren't finding them enjoyable. Numbers that play nice don't make for fun. Reskin the game as Final Fantasy and you'd maybe have a market though.

>>53889592
It says on the Unchained Rogue itself that most archetypes of rogue work with unchained rogue. Literally on the page itself it say this.

>Calistria's Kindness
>This tonic reduces menstrual pains and dramatically reduces the chances of conception during sexual intercourse if taken daily for 1 month. The effects last as long as it is taken daily thereafter. Each bottle contains 30 doses. Crafting it requires a successful DC 20 Craft (alchemy) check.

Odd, I thought Night Tea was the only female contraceptive in the canon, but this is apparently closer to The Pill than that stuff you brew. More reliable too, as you don't need to spend minutes upon minutes brewing up your chance for a stress-free fuck.

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Alright, scum, it's that time again, so get your shit in gear and get voting.
I hope you pieces of shit know the right answer, because you people are all over the place when it comes to having correct opinions.

>http://www.strawpoll.me/13231362

>>53889925
And it has to be taken daily because Callie likes her revenge trickery. "You want to do this? Well, here's the price!"

>>53889971
>correct opinions

nice spicy meme you got there

>>53889975
>>53889925
Calistria is fucking pathetic. Easily one of the worst major deities, down there in Shitsville with people like Norgorber or Asmodeus. Did they really need that many fucking deities for "I'm a selfish nerd who doesn't give a fuck about other people and wants more ____"?

>>53889975
>And it has to be taken daily

Beats getting out the pot and kettle while eying up your eager partner, I think.

>>53890009
>Asmodeus
>shit
Nope

>>53890013
If homeboy can't wait, homeboy can fuck off. There's plenty more men out there. Besides, no reason you can't spend some quality time while the pot's on.

>>53890009
I don't even know what they were trying to go for with Calistria, it's like one of them was seriously burned by a break-up the day before and decided to write up a spiteful fuckslut revenge bitch.

At least she's more relevant than Cayden Cailean, who is without a doubt the most generic and awful deity in the main Pantheon.

Which kind of tiefling is the best, and why is it The Motherless?

>>53890040
>If homeboy can't wait, homeboy can fuck off.

While true, I don't think anyone here would deny taking a swig of Calistria's Kindness every morning is less cumbersome and more time-saving than brewing up your Sex Juice every evening. It also reduces menstrual cramps, which I think is even more useful than the contraceptive qualities.

>>53890062
Pitborn, Shackleborn, and Hungerseed are the Top Three.

>>53890009
She's the female version of Loki, you dipshit.

She's about sex and revenge.

So was Loki. He was a vengeful fucker who screwed over his entire pantheon because other people were bastards to him. Three of his children were literally thrown out of Asguard because Odin is a jerk. why the fuck would he NOT want to screw those fuckers over?

>>53890062
I want to play a CE Qlippoth-spawn so bad.

>>53890082
Loki had elemental magical powers and shit.

Calistria's just a slut. Don't profane Loki by comparing them.

>>53890091
I'm leaning rowards a daemonborn. I like the idea of an astradaemon influenced QT With transparent flesh on her arms, legs, lower face, and tail

>>53890082
Loki was not so much a vengeful fucker as he was a force of nature personified. Loki (ignoring the post-christian fanfiction that is the Prose Edda) was the norse Shiva. No less.

>>53890082

Nigga they're still different by leagues and their interpersonal relationships with the other gods, or lack thereof for calistra.

I closer parallel would be shar from Forgotten Realms but even shar is more interesting than her.

Speaking of items available to the common adventurer, there ARE confirmed prices for Slaves.

http://www.archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Slave%20(hard%20labor)

>Standard Slave is 25 gp
>Hard Labor, 100 gp
>Specialized Slave 500 gp

>>53890102
Are you calling Loki not a slut? Because, like, he slept with fucking EVERYTHING. And got pregnant half the fucking time.

I mean, seriously.

>>53890134
There's also prices for being an Exotic Beauty.

>>53890137
So did Odin though. And Thor was a womanizer.

>>53890137
That's... Kind of what gods and goddesses do. They fuck things, unless they're explicitly the God of Faithfulness or Virginity. Loki fucking just about everything is par for the course, while Calistria is explicitly a Lust Goddess and thus the eponymous Slut.

>>53890122
So his children being relegated to various forms of hell (in one case literal Hel) wasn't justification for the shit he pulled? I think you're wrong. Revenge is a prime motivator for 90% of the shit he pulled.

>>53890137
So did just about any major god in any notable pantheon. Zeus ring a bell? Hell, Odin and Thor had quite a few romps about the land themselves.

Certainly he was a seducer and a trickster, but he was no slut. He used his charms with purpose.

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>>53890118
Play an erodaemon spawn whose mommy has love issues.

>>53890159
Untrue, that's mainly the Greeks. The Indian, Chink, and Nip gods were generally a lot more conservative.

>>53890118
My idea, possibly something I'll apply to Nodachi with is a Qlippoth-spawn who just hates demons and villains soooo much and loves paladins because they're incorruptible and won't become demons.

Of course he can't be friends with them because he's way too into pointless destruction.

>>53890157
Neither of them had children with dragons, wolves, or monsters. Certainly neither Odin or Thor got PREGNANT.

>>53890182
Odin drank cum though.

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>>53890182
>Certainly neither Odin or Thor got PREGNANT.

Thor was a cute woman (male) for a while, though.

>>53890162
Hel wasn't relegated to a form of hell. She was DELEGATED the rule over Helheim, one of the nine realms. If anything, she's the only one of his children to survive Ragnarök.

All the others were slain during the twilight or in the events leading up to it, and seeing as he's sort of the Herald of the Twilight of the Gods, the end of the Aesir's rule and all that, that's just kind of what's gonna happen, dude.

>>53889740
I'll see if I can apply before the weekend. I just want to hug Gloriana and soothe her worries with chaste handholding!

When the fuck did DHB make an initiator?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WKwyK10BvzqVb9M3lIJ0ZyraUNSuEr8y0QK6ML6d-6Y/edit?usp=sharing

Is it any good?

>>53890162
Nigger Hel wasn't named after Hell, Hell was named after Hel. Helheim is literally one of the nine worlds. Hel was a major, major deity on par with Hades. She was literally in charge of a ninth of the fucking universe.

>>53890210
Not really. She was flung out of Asgard by an angry Odin and took the rule of Niflheim as her own because no one else wanted it.

Lolki is still more of a slut than any of the others, because only a slut needs it so bad he'll turn into a female and bear children with things and people as a resault. That's some serious need to fuck there.

>>53890137
Calistria is JUST a slut, Anon. Loki is a bunch of things and also a slut. Big difference.

>>53890193
I prefer to call it "Mana Juice," thank you.

Wait wait hold up, this might be me being flagrantly ignorant of Norse mythology, but if semen was a source of magic and you had to put semen inside a woman to form a child... Well, you see where I'm going with this; was conception and impregnation seen with any sort of mystical bent?

>>53890221
Do it sooner if you can, you'll probably be able to get some feedback before it closes!

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>mfw the Ulfen don't have their own unique Pantheon like the Osirion or Tian do

That said, Gods appear as different people to different cultures; Desna is a butterfly Elf to the Inner Sea, but to the Kellid she's a stately woman astride a wild Elk. Do the Ulfen do the same with gods like Gorum or Erastil?

>>53890254
>revenge isn't important
>in a world where 80% of the shit happening is based on revenge
Yeah, no.

>>53890253
>needs it
Look here you absolute niggerfuck disgracing my culture

Loki gave birth to Sleipnir. The result of his being the original horsefucker (tm) was that the gods had Valhalla built for them without having to pay an exorbitant sum of gold to a greedy dwarf. It was yet another example of Loki saving the Aesir from major shit with his wits.
>>53890263
Not more than usual, no.

>>53890230
The sad thing is DHB's initiator is actually just straight better designed than all the ones that came out in PoW:E. It actually doing out of combat well and has a focused role with its buffing stuff.

It's fucking dumb that DHB can make a better initiator than DSP.

>>53890314

I'm pretty sure Erastil's still a big, burly deer man who shoots bad guys to them.

>>53890327
>Scandi
>calling someone else a niggerfuck

That's cute

>>53890345
I'm haven't read the initiator but his unchained classes looking fucking tight.

>>53890327
>saving the Aesir
>through fucking
Sorry, that doesn't make him not a slut anon. He could have done it a number of other ways, but he just HAPPENED to chose fucking a horse?

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>>53890327
Okay, you've got my attention. If I wanted to write or play an Ulfen faithful to the cultures and ethnic groups they're based on, what would be the big things I should look up or remember when writing them?

>>53890370
Okay, you dipshit, let me walk you through the events of the relevant lore here so you understand. Greedy dwarf offers to build Valhalla, and if he's not done on time, it's free! Greedy dwarf has a magic horse (male) doing all the work. Aesir realize lategame that magic horse is gonna make it on time, and thus force them to pay up to the greedy dwarf. This can't stand, so Loki transforms into a pretty magic horse (female) and lures the workhorse off from its duties to fug. No more magic horse doing work, Valhalla is not finished on time, greedy dwarf is paid zero gold for his efforts, Aesir are happy.
Just fucking read the damn thing next time, idiot.