/cyoag/ - CYOA General

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>No videogame with Hero Academy
game devs a shit

WHERE ARE THE HOGS

NOT GOATS, HOGS YOU FUCK

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>>53870728
Sorry anon, but I'm new to posting threads. I usually lurk, and noticed that the guy who normally does it says that.
Sorry for lying to you... Have a cute picture.

>>53870779
>Elf marrying Orc
This is sinful you should be ashamed

>>53870779
fuck you, at least post a cute orc girl instead of a guy next time

or you know, an actual cyoa so your post is on topic

>>53870779
I think it's cute.

>>53870779
But if the orc is a clone w/synced memories does it count as immortality?

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I think I have ADHD because every time I open this I barely get halfway through reading it, let alone comparing all combinations.

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Alright I'll drop this here and I'll be dropping the full list of everyone on the vote currently in a bit.

>>53870898
It helps if you listen to music while reading. For normal people that distracts them, but for me it helps keep my mind from wandering.

>>53870821
Sorry anon. I'll make sure to post cyoa related stuff from now on. Would you be interested in >>53870898, for instance?

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Reposting my OC since it was pretty late in the thread when I did it last time.

>>53870894
Why are trying to compare all combinations when clearly cute void knowledge is the superior option?

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>>53870925
And the Mystery Boxes.

>>53870915
already played that years ago

i had a half formed cyoa idea yesterday so i guess its time for my cyoa creation attempt #76 to begin

>>53870925
I'll take Margaret and have her turn into a goat so I can pet her.

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>>53870909

>>53870927
I FUCKED UP>>53870898

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>>53870940
Sorry for disappointing you, anon. I hope you make great headway in your cyoa today.

>>53871017
This image reminded me how is that loli abduction CYOA going?

>>53871017
i think i will, the idea excites me and i have no distractions

wish it was saturday instead of sunday though, then i could really do a marathon

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>>53871034
Wha... what?

>>53871071
You're abducted by lolis, with promises of free beer and heavy metal.

>>53871071
>first one is cucktown

>>53871071
He meant abduction the other way around.

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posting a WIP/teaser/trailer/cringe material

I'm the guy who wrote 26 pages of waifu descriptions. I figured I can just make a tl;dr version (with bullet points and skipped world building) for lazy readers, so I'll post that after the full version. The reason why my descriptions are so long is that I wanted to create something more than a waifupicker so I made the waifus also your teachers and career catalyzers.

I'm thinking about releasing the waifus in groups or one by one like the zodiac guy but atm I'm more inclined to post them in one go because it will let me (and you) use strawpoll to see which waifus will be the most popular. The problem is that my descriptions are very long so probably not many people will be interested in reading them all at once and vote in the strawpoll.

Those little blue circles are supposed to be bubbles, It'll be obvious on the last page.

>>53870686
Miser
Goblin Sewers
Bestiary and House
Mysterious Strangah and Merchants
Dark Knight

Grind for a while in the sewers till I can create a mecha suit to protect myself (and more importantly, act as my HP barrier). Transmutation magic allows me to easily heal damage made to my suit. I'd have to find a balance between power from gold and armaments bought from merchants. Careful to not become powerful enough on my own to trigger the Dark Knight, maybe keep power balanced within my automaton party/alternate build stored in my HQ.

ALL SYSTEMS, FULL POWER!

>>53871071
>Will not do anything lewd
>Loves headpats cuddles and hand holding
There is something wrong here

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>>53871094
Ah. Probably where I got the image.

>>53871105
It's from /d/, what else would you expect?

>>53871121
Release all at once.

>>53871105
Please, anon. Last thread was enough. We don't need anymore of this.

>>53871071
>Shy Futa

Totally adorable.

>>53871105
>not making her brown
It's your own fault anon if you get cucked

>>53871141
that's exactly what a cuck would say

>>53871121
>Yandere MILF
I, uh... never realised I desired this so much until now.

>>53871105
Only if you pick it, anon. There are 12 other personalities to pick from.

>>53871121
Sounds good! I'm especially psyched for this Yandere Milf you mentioned. Looking forward to this!

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>>53871121
I know I should write CYNTHIA in giant letters somewhere but dunno where, since I have 5 settings where there is one mentor and one apprentice and people may think they have to romance the mentor if I put his name above the setting. Had that problem with pic related, some people thought they had to fuck Roxanne to date Patricia.

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>>53870909
>>53870964
Posting an updated build, great way to waste time between CYOA work.

>Origin
Michael Evans
Male
The Now; Watcher

>Skills, Perks & Traits
High Tech Understanding, Common Ethereal Manipulation
Driver, Adaptability, Runner, Martial Training, Tactition, Mathematical Genius, Frontliner (Home Guard)

>Equipment
Possessed Warrior Monk Robes, Power Fist (Internal Weaponry Module) (Home Guard Stun Mod), Bolter Pistol, Limb Replacement x4, Hover Car, Soul Tap, Psychic Paper, Multiversal Timekeeper, Universal Traveller Markers, Glepnir Chain, MagiblocTM Coinage, Mathery Travellers Encyclopedia, Standard Breather, Omni Camping Equipment

>Little Things
Anon’s Bizarre Adventure, Forever Alone, Can't Wake Up Inside, Wrath

>Companions
Croatmor, Captain Grahm, Willmond Koch, Astrolla-232, Jack Churchill

>Home District
Teseract

>Hubworld
Home Lander

>Panic Button
The Polyp

>>53870956
Hah, that's hilarious! Thanks for playing.

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Let me ask you something; would you rather be the recipient of 1 wish, or be able to grant 2 wishes to someone else of your choosing?

>>53871218
>>53871121
CYNTHIA she's a really cool dancer

>>53871233
Recipient.

I don't like anyone else that much.

>>53871121
>There is not a chain of events where trying to help her something goes wrong and you also become a little girl

>>53870925
So where's the heroin?

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Dream of Genie update.
Changelog 1.03
Three new species
Two new attitudes
One new interloper
Cat ears now has a tail toggle
Sample Wishes section.
You can refuse free Perks, but not forced Pitfalls.
Making The Switch has free ID.

>>53871233
>make a deal with anons for wish trafficking
>fuck them over at the last possible second using 1 wish to make their accumulated wish pool nul and void.
Proceed to conquer the world I guess
It's just too easy.

>>53871233
I wouldn't trust anybody with that power. Therefore I'd like to abuse it myself.

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>>53871175
>>53871196
her portrait

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>>53871284
Minor wording/Terminology changes with no influence on balance (fluff clarifications like mundane skils requiring work), general typos
Clarified an edge case in the capacities of Single Rooms/Pocket Dimensions.
Giant down to -1, Minor shapeshift down to -2, Major Sjapeshift down to -3, Illusionary Copy down to -3, Your Wish My Command down to 0.
Major shapeshift can be taken without giant+mini if you accept mass limitation.
All things All People down to (+1,+2) to account for cheaper shapeshift options
Magical Ream name changed to Tragical Realm (the pun stopped working when I changed the beta image to a less explicit one, and it caused too much confusion)
Fixed lingering drop shadow issues
Minor wording changes, if they changed balance I've listed them elsewhere.
Clarification that you can take Spare Changes as often as you want.
Endless Inlaws can now also be Dutiful or Friendly

>>53871304
Is she christmas cake or an actual mother?

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>>53871071
>yandere
>vampire
Vampire lolis are the best kind of both lolis and vampires.
Plus when she turns me, I can actually live through her attacks if she ever goes full yan and attacks me.
But considering I'd already have everything I need in her, I wouldn't have any reason to look at other girls.

>>53871071
>Vampire
>Regularly feeds on your blood
>Con

The feeding is the best part of vampires! Being fed on/feeding upon others is super sexy. I'm not the only one that feels this way right?

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>>53871320
Most of the additions have been things directly requested, like more species or attitudes with fewer romantic implications, so I hope you enjoy it.

>>53871141
Kill yourself

>>53871121
>tomboy who doesn't secretly want to wear frilly dresses and bake cookies
I need this. (though who doesn't want to bake cookies?)
I'm in favor of releasing it all at once.
Release when?

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>>53871364
I'm a bit worried about the next bit, it feels sort of like I've revealed who killed Laura Palmer, but hopefully it doesn't interfere too much. If it does, please just forget it.

>>53871267
This was the initial idea but had to scrap it because it would probably require the girl to be sexually aggressive and I didn't feel confident in writing romantic scenes with a mentally immature loli involved.

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>>53871121
This is hands down the single best fucking way to do WIPs I've ever seen.
10/10 man.
I laughed and I'm hyped.

>>53871284
>Linger
T-this is too cute...

>>53870779
PURGE ORCS

>>53871221
Anyone got the image used in here on it's own? I'd appreciate it.

>>53871304
OOohh, looks nice!

I wish her boobs were bigger though, but I really like this portrait so I wouldn't recommend changing it.

Looking forward to the finished project!

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>>53871393
If the way the DLC is written is confusing, I'll try to clarify.

>>53871284
Well this one is a surprise.

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>>53871409
Go nuts.

>>53871071
>sadist
>vampire
Yes.jpg

>>53870911
ADHD dude here. Same. But I think it helps normal people too.

>>53871330
lives alone in a secluded estate surrounded by a garden and greenhouses (she's a herbalist).. Feels lonely so takes two apprentices at a time - usually girls but by accident the player visits her and she offers him to stay, falls in love with him later.

won't spoil the details

>>53871378
soon™

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>>53871430
The fuck is this? Are we being forced into being their slave now?

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>>53871430
The main point is, items marked with the double-dagger are exclusive to Your Wish, My Command, to make up for them losing the original Page 4. If you didn't take Your Wish, My Command, you MUST take Wheel of Fate as the Contract, because by playing the original CYOA she has "already" chosen you through that option.

In any case, this was fun. Thank you to everyone, everywhere, who provided feedbacks and builds. Dream of Genie is probably over now, barring any corrections I need to make from feedback in this thread, but I hope you enjoyed it. Pleasant dreams.

>>53871395
Wait what?

>>53871501
Also, if anyone knows any compression wizardry, I'd like to get this below 4 MB if possible, but don't know how without bumping the compression too high.

>>53871498
No. The DLC is played from your genie's perspective.

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>>53871430
>>53871501
>>53871525
Okay, so they're not your waifu, they're a corporate secretary bitch who only exists to manipulate and use you, with set powers, abilities and contacts you know nothing about within her corporation she is using to better control you. There is no love or attachment on her part for you, you are an assignment.

Holy shit, why did you ruin the CYOA like this?

>>53871284
One thing:

If I do NOT take broken facade, is it still a facade (it's just not broken)?

>>53871546
Please reread Wheel of Fate. She can explicitly choose to not follow the Mother's orders, and if you played the CYOA, she has already decided on that, despite the pressure being put on her.

>>53871557
See >>53871501
The text in Wheel of Fate indicates that it is STILL all a Facade, and that they're trying to keep you from finding out.

It also indicates your Genie is just on a business assignment with no care for you whatsoever.

>>53871572
I read it. Her choosing not to do a specific mission does not invalidate all of the framing, lore, choices and EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE in this DLC.

>>53871575
I'm honestly not sure whether that's a good decision. It means I'm automatically gonna take Broken Facade (because it's a benefit), which just lets me pick and choose as I please.

>>53871430
What possesses CYOA creators to do terrible shit like this?

>>53871599
I don't know why he made this DLC at all. It just makes everything worse.

>>53871582
It's really no different from something like Oh My Goddess. But if it really annoys you that much, I apologize.

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>>53871501
>Waifus can choose their own waifus they have in addition to you that you have no idea about

>>53871625
Do you not remember all of the tremendous backlash Oh My Goddess received when this information was revealed in it? You're adding the shit that was MOST HATED from your inspiration to this after the fact, ruining people's builds and imagination.

>>53871607
I think it's interesting. Haven't read it through yet, though.

>>53871430
Oh look, I'm human paper work.

>>53871641
Oh yeah but that's shit.

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>>53871121
Posting WIPs in the form of movie trailers should totally be a thing.

>>53871656
It makes it so you're just an assignment from heaven. She has no attachment to you and is just doing her job as set down by god. In addition, she has all kinds of powers, friends, contacts and the like who you have no idea about and that she's hiding from you.

In addition, it seems to indicate Broken Facade is canon.

Ayy just before a shitstorm bursts out here I'm gonna say I really like the idea behind Genie DLC BUT I think it could be handled better by making it obvious that DESPITE the paperwork (which is cool), there will still be legit waifumancing.

>>53871625
>Oh My Goddess
You mean the anime where heaven actively castrated the protagonist?

>>53871681
>In addition, it seems to indicate Broken Facade is canon.
I will say that that is not at all what Broken Facade actually refers to.

>>53871501
Wait, if they can pick multiple contracts, doesn't that mean you're expected to share the genie with another person?

>>53871675
That looks pretty fucking cool anon.

>>53871675
YES! HELL YES! I'll spend so much time on that ... again! Can't wait!

>>53871709
I will say that you're ignoring backlash and criticism.

>>53870898
Blue/Pink/Grey. Command over making things cute/draining the cuteness, remove momentum for bullet immunity, creation of matter from nothing, summon an army of void lolis.

Best combination

>>53871709
Wait I thought BF was for the d r e a m e r s?

>>53871709
>CYOA explicitly states that she's only choosing you so as to suppress you as a mission from heaven and you might become a DREAMER
>Hurr nothing untoward here nope!

>>53871742
Fuck off, no he isn't yet.

>>53871430
>>53871501
Why didn't you make this a separate CYOA?

>>53871675
Aw. I was excited and then I realised it was the Ruskie simulator I couldn't self-insert into.

>>53871670
They can also get husbandos, now that I'm reading them more closely. Seriously, they get multiple men in addition to you to serve.

>>53871675
YES

too bad it's happening in the Convention setting, which means anything we would do is irrelevant and our world still can be fucked without us capable to doing anything about it. And now we metaknow we must take out Koshei by any means or die, which kinda make it less fun.

>>53871728
They can't pick multiple contracts. They have one. You, who was chosen with Wheel of Fate, depsite the mother trying to convince her otherwise. I thought that would be clear that there would be "legitimate waifumancing" as per >>53871690 but apparently not.
Client is the term for people who you will end up meeting. They are optional. Think non-hostile Interlopers.

>>53871756
All he's said to everyone complaining is "I'm sorry you don't like it." that's not really replying to criticism.

>>53871790
>They can't pick multiple contracts.
>You may also choose two aditional clients to deal with

>>53871804
But clients are like...actual, legit customers. All-business. I'm guessing.

>>53871790
Clients, like the guy who wants her to serve him and all the other men and women she's expected to serve, right?

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>>53871675
Imagine an E3-like CYOA conference.

>>53871804
Yes. A contract is You. Clients are side characters. She cannot use contract/master specific powers on anyone else, because they are for you only.

>>53871815
You're all business too. There's no difference.

>>53871820
See >>53871816

It doesn't matter if she has powers she can only use on you if she's still with other men, idiot.

>torrenting photoshop to make a CYOA
>used to cc 2015
>oh hey there's a torrent of 2017
>copy and paste in an image
>can't even resize images

>>53871790
And what about all the powers, contacts, missions, and friends she has that she's hiding behind your back to accomplish her mission of suppressing and monitoring you?

>>53871830
>You're all business too
You aren't. Heaven wants you to be, but you aren't. The author's said that a few times now, anyway.

>>53871395
What has to do an alchemy incident with sex?

>>53871830
>>53871845
Also, what's so special about men? If she's fucking other women you're still a cuck.

>>53871816
Antony Nelson would be a Contract. Roger Healy would be a Client. Brunette Jeannie would be an Interloper.

Clients are people who you will encounter in everyday life with their own problems and troubles, and you two might decide to help them together. Or you might not. They're optional.

>>53871839
What about it? It's kinda cool.

>>53871121
Fifteen in one CYOA? Sounds challenging, I'll be impressed no doubt.

>>53871838
ctrl+t

>>53871839
The only one she is hiding is Aphrodite and potentially the Houri family and only because she doesn't want them getting too close to you. Would someone who potentially waited hundreds of relative years to be with you not be upfront?

>>53871845
The author has said it but the CYOA says otherwise. This is a problem.

>>53871853
>What's so special about men
It's just that people will assume she's sleeping with another male master before she's sleeping with a woman.

>>53871857
I'm talking about people like Silver Spoon that she's expected to take in addition to you and serve. They're additional requirements.

>>53871675
Is this a Musou CYOA where I can realize My Ambition?

>>53871887
Read the first page of the CYOA. She gets tons of summons and ground troops and contacts to use.

>>53871882
ty

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>>53871284
>That feeling when you're excited about the update but then you scroll down and see the mess he's made of the setting with the DLC.

>>53871888
>I'm talking about people like Silver Spoon that she's expected to take in addition to you and serve. They're additional requirements.
Silver Spoon is limited to people who took Your Wish, My Command, which means they are choosing a specific master/contract if they don't want to imagine one themselves. He is a potential husbando.

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>>53871071
>sadist
>vampire

>>53871919
>Silver Spoon is limited to people who took Your Wish, My Command
This is indicated NOWHERE.

>>53871913
This is what made the original setting good though. The flaws are in the CYOA itself rather than the setting.

>>53871919
Also you keep ignoring issues from how you're framing the player as nothing more than a job and giving the genie all kinds of clandestine powers, contacts, underlings, and missions she's supposed to perform behind your back while treating you like a job.

>>53871932
What original setting?

>>53871948
The setting of the non-DLC CYOA (i.e. the preceding setting).

>>53871930
It is, just poorly. The additional responsibilities section has a dagger.

>>53871962
I disagree, the original setting wasn't set up like you're just some mission on her part.

>>53871930
The explanation for the double dagger symbol being limited to Your Wish, My Command is in multiple places.

>>53871919
Aren't you ignoring how all of the Clients are also waifus/husbandos for her to pick in addition to you?

>>53871941
>and giving the genie all kinds of clandestine powers, contacts, underlings
How dare he.

I've got no problem with this. So what, your waifu's got a hidden side to her. So long as she's still your waifu, that stuff can only add an interesting dimension.
>>53871979
Did you forget all the Broken Facade discussions we had? Also, it was, via the whole paperwork thing.

>>53871991
They're people in the world you will end up interacting with, yes. Side characters.

>>53871998
>I've got no problem with my waifu stabbing me in the back to accomplish missions from god.
>I've got no problem with her not being my waifu, just someone doing a mission from god to suppress my powers without caring about me.

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>>53871546
IT'S OH MY GODDESS ALL OVER AGAIN!

>>53872016
Are you just trying to be contrarian? You can see that's the opposite of what I wrote.

>>53872009
Characters written as waifus and husbandos.

>>53871987
>>53871977
It's indicated VERY poorly. You don't even define who is and isn't a client or contract.

You're also ignoring all the problems with your first page.

>>53871998
>So what, your waifu's got a hidden side to her.
People are generally not all that fond of secrecy in their relationships.
>Did you forget all the Broken Facade discussions we had? Also, it was, via the whole paperwork thing.
I don't remember it being that grim though. The main thing I took from that is if you take broken facade shit is going to go down sooner or later.

>>53871818
WE WUZ KANGZ

>>53871175
Fate/Grand Order has one of those.
She confuses romantic love with material love though, so she'll treat you like her son while she's going yan over you, and while sleeping with you.

>>53872030
No it isn't. You said yourself you don't mind her having that hidden side, which is exactly what I wrote, as indicated in the DLC.

How the fuck do you want to be with a woman who is both lying to you and hiding everything about herself, establishing that there's ZERO trust and intimacy in your relationship, and who doesn't actually love you?

>>53872034
There is a pool. She picks who she would like as a client or contract. In the end, She chooses you, despite all the pressure on her. I thought that would be romantic.

>>53872021
It's literally that! He goes on later to claim this is okay because it was in Oh My Goddess, but everyone LOATHED it in Oh My Goddess. It's like he missed the fan reaction entirely.

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>>53870898
I choose Cute, Knowledge, and Creation.
Redefine "Cute" to a synonym of "omnipotent". Because I am a cute little girl, I now possess the power of all orbs simultaneously, and infinitely more.

Erase the ancient evil from existence, rearrange the universe to ensure that nobody can ever match or remove my power, and then bugger off to a new universe.

>>53872037
>People are generally not all that fond of secrecy in their relationships.
I am, at least in supernatural waifu CYOAs.
>I don't remember it being that grim though.
The line of thinking (which the author probably stole, ironically) was that heaven gave you a genie to stop you from turning full Azazel.
>>53872055
>which is exactly what I wrote
No. You wrote "lol you okay with your waifu not being your waifu?", which is the exact opposite of
>so long as she's still your waifu

>>53872067
>as a client or contract
Or nothing your CYOA lets her pick TWO client husbandos/waifus in addition to you as her contract. Not only that, but there's nothing in your CYOA to indicate romance, because even if she wants to pick someone compatible as her client, that doesn't change the fact that she's being sent down to control and manipulate you by suppressing your DREAMER status. Nor does it invalidate how she has all these secondary missions, minions, contacts, and the like she's hiding from you so she can better accomplish her mission. A mission that has ZERO to do with romance. Do you understand?

>>53872073
>I am
You've never been in a long term relationship. People who lie to and malicious manipulate you, who are hiding their lives and self from you, they are absolutely TERRIBLE partners. They make for awful relationships.

Not to mention this is just a mission, not a real relationship, for her.

>>53872122
In a CYOA you doofus. Obviously IRL it's not a good idea, but IRL I wouldn't want any of this anyway.

>>53872104
>lets her
Lets her. Do you want side characters? If yes, pick them. If no, do not.

And the "mission" is essentially "go have a happy life."

>>53872138
>In a CYOA you doofus.
So what? We're not talking about magic here. We're talking about a person. People aren't going to operate differently in the CYOA world unless we're told they do. You're also ignoring the whole 'only with you to supress who you ware on a mission from god' part.

>>53872104
Alright, what is this Dreamer thing all about? It's been mentioned a couple of times and I feel more stupid than usual.

>>53872149
>You're also ignoring the whole 'only with you to supress who you ware on a mission from god' part.
Not him but the creator's repeatedly told you that that's not what happens.

>>53871121
How big do the tits get?
This is important

>>53872149
I'm willing to suspend a lot of things to make a narrative more interesting. And this does make the narrative more interesting.

>>53872152
I assume its CHIM

>>53872073
>stop you from turning full Azazel.
It's close, but not quite this. Remember, there are multiple of them, and they're caused by intense dissatisfaction and longing, not by any powers they may have.

>>53872140
I think the problem is because the cyoa is from the side of the genie, he wouldn't be the one to actually pick any potential side characters.
Tbh, the clients thing should have been daggered.

>>53872140
>You
It's not up to you, as in the person in the CYOA. It's on her. You're giving the waifu, in universe, the ability to get two addition husbandos. That kinda shoots your 'romance' argument in the throat.

>And the mission is essentially
Control, manipulate, and lie to the individual all for the sake of suppressing DREAMER status. Which is even written in wheel of fate itself, you know.

Also I hope you're paying attention to that other argument that's about lies and secrets in relationships, since that also castigates this whole idea that it's romantic that she's hiding everything about who she is from you.

>>53872152
>>53872187
You're essentially an Outer God. Broken Facade is another option talking about the same thing.

>>53872187
>CHIM
Ah, okay.

What the fuck is CHIM?

>>53872193
Yeah it should've been a straight-up "pick your MASTER", with the wheel-of-fate understood to be [you] if you were creating your genie.

>>53872169
No, he hasn't. He has only said the dreamer isn't exactly like broken facade.

>>53872181
You are very special if you think your waifu lying and betraying you is 'interesting'.

>>53872140
See >>53872216

>>53872214
Elder Scrolls fuckery.

>>53872218
He really, really has.

>>53870779
>Orc with elf.
Fucking disgusting.
Elves are for purging, not waifuing.

>>53872218
No, he's just a cuck. Not meming, but an actual cuck. The idea of a SO that hides her life with other people from him get him off.

>>53872196
>It's not up to you, as in the person in the CYOA. It's on her. You're giving the waifu, in universe, the ability to get two addition husbandos
No, she doesn't. She has the ability to say "yes, I will try to make other people happy too" or say "no, it's just me and him, nobody else in our circle of friends." Would someone matched as closely to you as possible pick other friends? Then she picks other friends. Would she not? Then she does not pick other friends.

Same with the lying. Would your waifu lie to you or not? You personally?

>>53872247
This.

>>53872232
Ugh. The one time I tried to get into the lore, I came out far more confused than I was before.

>>53872237
Look, I've seen him try and claim how he thought this would go, and what he thought he indicated, but it's not present in the actual text itself. I get the idea that authors can rule on their own settings, but when the CYOA doesn't actually match what they're saying that means there's a huge problem with the writing that needs to be corrected. In addition, not everyone is going to be here for this conversation, so even if I lied down and ignored what the CYOA itself says, future players won't have the luxury of the author telling them what his intent was.

>>53872216
That is what it says. The Mother even says that she doesn't like the term "Master" for Contract, thus confirming that is exactly what it is.

>>53872247
>Orcs are for purging, not waifuing.

Aye. Grab your sword, and fight the Horde.

>>53872278
Clients being different from masters only means she can't use certain powers on them, not that she isn't serving and fucking them.

>>53872276
>but it's not present in the actual text itself
Sure but given this ain't high literature we may as well consider his comments an extension of the CYOA. I will, anyway.

He's probably gonna rewrite in any case.
>>53872278
No I mean your clients should be masters, with only one guy chosen. Because of >>53872295.

>>53872295
It also means things like Loving Heart only and exclusively work on you. Would you, specifically you, your waifu do the things you are talking about with friends?

>>53872290
No.
Orcs are badass, elves are smug shitheads that deserve death.
This particular orc is a race traitor, but we can cure him and set him back on the path of righteousness.
The only cure for being an elf is death.

>>53872260
>No, she doesn't. She has the ability to say "yes, I will try to make other people happy too"
So yes, she does, she has the choice of picking two other people to fuck. Where the fuck does it indicate people she is EXPECTED TO OBEY AND SERVE are merely 'friends'? People she is expected to put on her priority list besides you? You are giving the choice to a waifu to cheat on you out of the gate.

>Would your waifu lie or not
I don't fucking know, apparently she would since all of the content on the first page of the DLC is shit she has that is NOT mentioned to you by anyone at any point. So by your own fiat she is lying to me about all this shit she has and what her actual mission is.

I also want you to read >>53872276

>>53872260
This. Everyone has overreacted, and the author didn't quite clarify well enough. Faults on both ends, but people need to chill as the choice to take additional contracts were optional.
And it's DLC. Optional. Not necessary for the main part of the game(cyoa).

>>53872290
I am angry.

Angry about YOU.

>>53872342
A waifu getting a choice to take addition husbands without any input on your part is a fucking problem.

>>53872342
A lot of people are taking it decently, with one or two people getting way too agitated (probably touchy due to previous threads).

>>53872373
Most replies to the CYOA seem to be negative, though. Sure only two or so guys are arguing over it, but the reaction is still generally bad.

>>53872379
Sure, but that's a decent reaction.

>>53872342
Nobody is going to calm down unless the creator gives some indication of addressing complaints desu.

>>53872341
>Where the fuck does it indicate people she is EXPECTED TO OBEY AND SERVE are merely 'friends'?
By picking Wheel of Fate, she has already decided to not obey all of Heaven's suggestions. And she isn't expected to obey and serve any of them, just spread happiness around. And I mean that in the most literal sense, of not being frustrated every day.

>>53872388
Given a lot of this is just a result of unclear enough wording, he's probably gonna rewrite.

I believe in him.

I guess this is another Magical Team situation. What exactly would you like written to indicate that Wheel of Fate means "you" and clients are optional non-hostile side characters? Be specific.

>>53872362
Would YOUR waifu pick additional husbandos, anon? If you really think so, I can only feel pity for someone with such low self esteem they can't assume their imaginary waifu actually loves them.
Remember; It's still your choice. Your the one who sees the husbandos and picks them, regardless if it's from your waifus pov. If it bothers you so much, then just... don't pick it.

>>53872395
>By picking Wheel of Fate, she has already decided to not obey all of Heaven's suggestions.
She has merely chosen not to pick a specific assigned contract. NOWHERE does it indicate she isn't performing her missions assigned on the first page, or does not possess the ordinance and personnel assigned on the first page, and in addition she could be picking two additional husbandos to have instead of you. Again, you are ignoring how all of the content is NOT, by the text, immediately revoked or invalidated by her picking you. All of it is still there.

>>53872408
Retard.

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>>53872247

>>53872408
That's naive of you.

>>53872441
>it's your choice
Not from the perspective of the characters in the CYOA. We're arguing about the setting here, not just the mechanics.

>>53872447
>>53872456
He's gonna prove you all wrong, just you wait!

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hi /tg/. first post here and not sure if this what you're into but i just revised an old CYOA-style piece and thought i'd post it here. should be pretty straight-forward. to make a "game" out of it you can make your selection in order to beat combos posted by other anons. any ideas for expanding the interactive / "game" aspect are welcome. (such as settings or monsters to battle.) if this is bad or you hate it then sorry.

>>53872456
>>53872447
Please see >>53872432
I was wrong about Magical Ream, i suppose I was wrong about this. My image editing program is open. What do you want written?

>>53872467
True.

So, would YOUR waifu pick additional husbandos, anon? Are you so pathetic that even they waifu you crafted doesn't want to be with you?

>>53872450
Time to make some half human, quarter elf, quarter orc babies.

>>53871071
>Loli
Fucking pedoshit kill yourselves you degenerate sickfucks

>>53872432
>>53872481
If you're the creator, go back and read the complaints. Don't ignore them and expect them all to be bulleted to this post. It can be hard to remember every issue and some people probably only replied to the CYOA and didn't scroll through the argument.

1. Dagger clients for wheel of fate. They come across as love interests, not friends, and they ruin any romantic message.

2. Make the meaning of the dagger more clear in the CYOA, seriously.

3. Indicate what happens with the options from the first page if she chooses wheel of fate and if she tells you about them.

4. Write Wheel of Fate so as to express that it's a choice to reject any mission from God and embrace only the goal of finding someone she loves, with no ulterior motives or 'job' baggage from the first part of the DLC left.

5. Indicate what a DREAMER is so people don't assume it's Broken Facade, which is the natural conclusion.

>>53872485
If you can't read moonrunes she's inviting a human boy over to her house, followed by "Of course my parents are home, why wouldn't they be?"

>>53872432
Honestly, because the cyoa is from the side of the genie people will feel they can't decide whether they want them to have side contracts. I don't think there's an elegant way to solve this. My guess would be just to remove the ability to have side contracts if taken with the wheel of fate.
Not sure how to make the first one more obvious.

>>53872519
Is it pedophillia if my Loli is centuries old?
checkmate atheists.

>>53872483
I have a problem with waifus being able to choose to have husbandos assigned to them by heaven behind your back.

>>53872432
Remove clients and talk up how wheel of fate is for love, not duty.

>>53872525
Nice. She's an innocent lass.

>>53872477
BAd time.

>>53872432
Wheel of Fate needs a complete rewrite, frankly. It's less that it's not clear on who you are, and more that it's not clear on what it means she's choosing/feeling.

>>53872519
Is it pedophillia if my Loli's yogurt shotgun is bigger than mine?
checkmate atheists.

>>53872522
Dreamer isn't Broken Facade?

>>53872543
Here is her parents.

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Ii-Orc-no-Hi/Ch-001-Read-Online?id=199276

>>53872545
what don't you like?

>>53872477
Old school, but I like it. You've definitely come at an unfortunate time though. I suggest you try it again in a day or so.

>>53872432
Literally just clarify the love thing. Keep it as a "she's ordered to do this mission BUT she's disobeying out of ~love" -- like a Love Can Bloom kinda deal.

Also make d r e a m e r s super powerful in their own right please it pleases my ego.

>>53872481
I want to know your thought process behind making this DLC.

>>53872530
>>53872571
Fuck you

>>53871439
Thanks man.

>>53872587
I mean, there's an argument, bad time to post things.

>>53872531
I too would be troubled by such a thing. Luckily, I am capable of thinking that my waifu actually loves me, enjoys being near me and so on that she would refuse those choices. After all, she loves me.

Shouldn't you feel the same? That you can trust your loving waifu? Don't tell me you think your waifu would cheat on you? Do you think your waifu would instantly fall into another man's arms the second he propositions?

I worry for you, anon. You seem to be unable to envision a truly pure love.

>>53872590
He needs to address the client question too, at least.

>>53872614
Oh yeah, I was mentally including that in the love thing.

>>53872607
I don't think you understand that I can take an issue with the CYOA's framing/mechanics, as well as the behavior of heaven itself. Not all of the problems are with a SPECIFIC waifu, you understand.

>>53872522
1. Do you mean the ones currently daggered, or to dagger all of them? They were intended to be non-romantic in the first place, hence the mention of being friends, no indication of what they are like as lovers, etc. How specifically should they be rewritten?

>2.
There is a note about it on both pages and in Your Wish My Command, but okay. Is it okay in one narration box or should it be in multiple?

>3.
Again, they're just side characters. Do you want an Ifrit 'big sis" type to playfully slap you on the back when you're mopey, do you want to pass by a particular favorite tree every day when going to work and say hello, etc.
>4.
It will be close to this, I guess.
>5.
That is a bit much.

>>53872596
Not him, but I personally find the whole supernatural paperwork/supernatural love dynamic really interesting, especially with the complications introduced by broken facade. I'd want to extend that too.

>>53871430
>If the way the DLC is written is confusing, I'll try to clarify.
lol

>>53872432
Would you consider rewriting to be your genie telling you, the original player, about some of the friends she had made as the various backup and summons allowed her and then she goes on to tell you about the jobs she was offered but declined because she wanted to be with you. She does feel a kind of bad about leaving them in a bad spot though, and as such is asking if you'd be willing to help some of them out together.

>>53872607
She doesn't even know you when she makes the choice. How could you trust someone to have made that choice when they knew absolutely nothing about you except ''''fate'''' or shit like that?

>>53872681
That sounds pretty shit desu.

>>53872628
1. I mean dagger the clients. Those ones already daggered are contracts, are they not? Actually, that reminds me, you need to make it clear which ones are clients and which ones are contracts too.

I'm not asking you to rewrite clients because every single one of them reads like a love interest or at least somebody the genie is expected to serve and grant wishes to on a level equal to you. There is a fundamental problem with the mechanic.

2. One box near the start of the CYOA is fine.

3. With the personnel from the first page, the issue isn't that they feel romantic. The issue is that they make her interactions with you feel like a mission, and that they are things hidden from you that she's lying about. They make the genie dishonest and it pushes the idea that you're just a job. So I want you to better indicate what they do if she's rejecting the mission and if she's actually hiding them from the player.

4. Alright.

5. You're going to keep getting confusion on this point then, because it's the most logical conclusion to make with the information you provided in the CYOA.

>>53871847
>>53871503
Sorry, I didnt say what i wanted to say. I did want to do this intially but decided to skip it for many reasons, not just sex related stuff - that wasn't even the main reason. I just didn't want to put so much emphasis on that aspect since the cyoa is mostly about picking waifus and not about becoming a little boy/girl. I guess you can say it's an implied possiblity.

>>53872689
Fate holds a bit more water when you're a genie in heaven.

>>53872625
Oh, I understand well enough, anon. The fact that heaven is trying to force such degeneracy and adultery on my waifu is unacceptable, and not comfy.

But... All you have complained about was how your waifu can pick additional husbandos. Why does that worry you? Do you really feel that insecure? are you afraid your imaginary waifu will cheat on you?

>>53870925
All the girls are quite a hassle to be in a relationship with, the only normal one is Margaret, but i think that would be first cases in amny years whre i would take the mystery box. I would rather have superpowers and dare normal girls, than not have powers and date problematic ones. Box turned out to be good, not the fuck you up kind so it's all good. I'd like Invincible or maybe even Tech power the best, but i will take Shapeshifting for that sweet agelesness instead.

>>53872693
It sounds kind of cutesy to me, but I'm not sure what the creator's intent is.

>>53872711
>and not comfy
Good. Comfy is bad.

>>53872709
Yeah and it holds a lot less mettle when heaven is really only interested in keeping you under control and not your actual well being.

>>53872725
No it sounds a bit naff I mean. Ham-fisted.

>>53872711
It's a hypothetical waifu. I'm debating something, I really don't have time to spend ten minutes wording it how you like.

>>53872477
I have to pick Hercules' Fingers because barehanded fighting is cool. As for armor I think the Elephant Shield has the best synergy with it. Another obvious combo would be Cupid's Wrath + Wisdom of Minerva. Not only is the time power useful in case you get yourself in a bad situation, never being off balance and being able to see through invisibility is very strong for an archer.

>>53872729
Why, anon? What is wrong with comfy?

>>53872529
I'll probably just rewrite Wheel of Fate so that she is choosing the things you would choose more explicitly.
>>53872537
Entirely? So make them only waifus/husbandos for people who took YWMC and not have any side characters for regular players?
>>53872561
Okay. I hoped the discouraged Loving Heart would make this clear, that she was willing to undergo a really serious hard period to be with you specifically, but I guess it didn't work.

>>53872596
>wouldn't it be fun if it took place in a bigger world with other people populating it?
>How about a crazy eccentric Christmas Cake who is obsessed with genies? Wouldn't it be funny if there was one right under her nose?

>>53872628
Dude just drop the clients.

>>53872749
It's unsettling. It feels like an overripe peach. You know, soft and sweet, but...

>>53872729
>Comfy is bad
I assume you like to wake up all mornings naked in your bed made of nails in the north pole

>>53872754
>Entirely?
Just from wheel of fate players, actually

>>53872767
I mean...now that you mention it, I am into a kind of uncomfy masochism.

>>53871430
>>53871501
I like the DLC. Thanks for making it.

>>53871284
>>53871320
>>53871364 etc
SHIT YES. On my birthday, too. I talked to you at length on /d about this, including making the build where it was obvious the houri I "chose" was dangerously obsessed with me and the rival I used a bottle on may very well have been the true waifu, not "perfect" like the one I chose but also less terrifyingly perfect.
Time to read this bitch and see what's changed!

>>53872773
This.
>>53872776
Also this, albeit with caveats.

>>53872754
I got your thought process in front of me but I'm not seeing how it lead to you making the whole thing a business venture with secondary husbandos and such.

>>53872781
We think you're gonna love it.

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>>53872519
Lolis are Olev

>>53872758
Unsettling? I don't believe we are talking about the same comfy. Are you perchance talking about Urban Unease's brand of comfiness?

>>53872781
I remember that. It was fun. But don't read it yet. I have lots to fix. But thank you for your interest.

>>53872776
>>53872788
Thank you to you too, and to people offering criticism.

>>53872820
Not at all, Urban Unease is truly comfy. I mean the other kind of comfiness.

I mean I like this CYOA because of the Broken Facade bit, which makes the whole thing...comfy? Kinda? Like a huge beach with cold wind and open grey skies.

>>53870925
I feel really bad for you. You have really unfortunate timing.
Also, when I see pdf cyoas I always think it’s an old one.
>>53872754
I would just make the clients exclusive to YWMC. The thing is, it feels more like having to 'share' your waifu due to the nature of it bein a, well, job, than just having some friends or something.

>>53872837
>Like a huge beach with cold wind and open grey skies
How is that comfy.

>>53872847
>Also, when I see pdf cyoas I always think it’s an old one.
Yeah same, wtf?

I guess new PDF authors should slap a huge image on the first page like Universal War.

>>53872704
Why is it that she gets a bunch of minions, anyway?

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>>53872837
Anon... You are worrying me now. Let me show you what an example of comfy is.

Looking at picture related, don't you feel that indescribable feeling of relaxation, happiness and unease?

>>53872681
I like the sound of this.
>>53872693
What is your objection to it?
>>53872711
They are not trying to force adultery.
>>53872755
>>53872773
Do wheel of Fate players want any of them as side characters at all?>>53872797
It already was. In the original. I didn't think expanding on it would be this controversial.

>>53872899
I can explain that to you. In the original, it was a secondary character treating it like a job. Not your genie. In this one, it's your genie treating it like a job, not just the secondary character.

>>53872868
Cold wind is refreshing

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>>53872868
>How is that comfy.
What do you mean?

Like, take a look at this image. Do you not find that idea comfy? Just ignore the wii origin.
>>53872892
Unfortunately I find it hard to get past my hatred for villages.

>>53872899
>Do wheel of Fate players want any of them as side characters at all?
I really don't. I don't see how you can fit any of them in without adding a new section entirely and cloning them (which wouldn't make sense) because they're written and placed and your genie is assigned to them as if they were another master.

>>53872899
>They are not trying to force adultery.
Could've fooled me desu.

>>53872847
>The thing is, it feels more like having to 'share' your waifu due to the nature of it bein a, well, job, than just having some friends or something.
This anon just worded the negative feelings I had for the DLC perfectly.
Like everything else though. Poor delivery though.

>>53872954
It's definitely one of the most glaring weakpoints to it.

>>53872932
Why do you hate villages anon?

>>53872899
See >>53872847
>The thing is, it feels more like having to 'share' your waifu due to the nature of it bein a, well, job, than just having some friends or something

That's not how it is in the original.

>>53872899
Shouldn't you rewrite the minions she gets as side characters for wheel of fate people? That address the whole 'she's lying to you and hiding these people who are only there to fulfill a mission' argument too.

>>53872973
Too fucking small. Oppressively small, always. Aaaargh I feel bads just thinking about it.

Going to the countryside is bearable for week-long holidays. No more.

>>53872899
>What is your objection to it?
Cheap and ham-fisted.

>>53872899
It's rather crude and bare bones of an idea, but it was what quickly came to mind when I was trying to both address the concerns (secret life, all a job, side contracts, etc.) while not asking the author to just get rid of stuff.

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>>53872932
Fair, Anon. I myself have a burning hatred for clustered human settlements and communities.

How about this, Anon?

If I were to just make the entire DLC exclusive to YWMC players, Would that solve the majority of problems, seeing as how Wheel of Fate players want no part of it?

>>53873032
Probably, but I really want elaboration on Broken Facade because it's cool.

>>53873032
Well, doesn't that ignore that a lot of people's problems are with the fact that this was addressed to your genie? Even if you don't play it, it's canon she has all these secret minions, and that she could have and maybe did choose additional husbandos to you,and that she's just on a mission from god with no love.

>>53873032
Yeah, I think so. The people making the biggest deal about it are the WoF players. Shame. People are just so insecure about their ability to be in a stable and loving relationship. Quite sad.

>>53873064
Don't even try that, you ignored everyone's arguments to try and worm around to personal insults.

>>53873060
>Even if you don't play it, it's canon she has all these secret minions,
If I were to make the entire thing exclusive to YWMC players, it couldn't be canon. The Psycho Childhood Friend can't be your childhood friend at the same time as being completely alone in the world.

>>53873032
Eh, somewhat? If it's still something that is canonically presented to everyone, it doesn't really change that much.

>>53873064
Are you playing stupid or do you genuinely not understand what bothers people?

>>53873094
He's baiting.

>>53873091
I'm not sure I understand your post. If this DLC indicates choices given to genies, your genie went through it whether you played the DLC or not, understand? Which means those choices were posed to her.

>>53873091
I'm not sure I really get this desu. The general choice would still be presented to every genie, right?

>>53873072
:). You got me, Anon.

But I do agree with you. It is quite strange. Why does your genie need so much mandatory support if you yourself already have picked the powers you want/need?

I'll stop being a cunt.

>>53873103
Ah, so it's the entire framework that is the problem, not the particular content within it.

It'd probably be best to just ignore it entirely then. It was a bad idea. How about just removing all references to it from the original, and just releasing that as the final version?

>>53873032
At that point I find it hard to reason why the DLC should exist if it only caters to such a small subset of people. Obviously there's already a lot of work put into it, but I don't think many people choose YWMC. It would feel somewhat tacked on, as if they get access to all of these other tools that people who don't select that option won't even know about unless they read something that doesn't concern their build, then you might just get a situation like this again unless you word why these choices are being offered differently in the intro. Maybe it would thus make the option more popular, but I don't know.

>>53873146
I wish you could retract it, but now that you've posted it, you really can't. It's always present now, there will be people who post it, demand it be posted, and argue that it's canon. Once posted in /cyoag/ it cannot be undone.

>>53873044
Seriously, I'm immensely curious as to why exactly we're being given a genie, and what our childhood friend is trying to prevent. All this stuff about DREAMERS feels like it's going over my head. I get something bad (from their perspective) happens if certain people are kept in a state of immense desire for something they can't have, but what exactly happens to us, and who really has our best interests at heart?

>>53873032
You can't put the genie back in the bottle bro

>>53873146
>Ah, so it's the entire framework that is the problem, not the particular content within it.
I think I gave you ways to make it less of a problem earlier on. I get that it's more work but still it technically is an issue with content. Framework issues are just wheel of fates getting to choose clients (bad) and no explanation for what happens to minions if she chooses wheel of fate.

>>53873044
This Anon gets it. As great as making my own assumptions are, I would like to know what the author personally believes it is, and why he put it in.

>>53871071
>Pure Futa
>Grandma Toddler
>Prepubescent Slut
>Brown Ojousama
N-nani?

>>53873190
I mean I don't think he should be scalpelingly clear about it, I'd just like MORE.

>>53873146
While I dislike the dlc as it is now, I think it would be a waste.
I think the main problems can just be worked out by rewriting/rewording wheel of fate, excluding clients to wheel of fate and making the genie honest about their choices or something like that.

>>53872747
that's awesome that you noticed that combo, i noticed it after the fact too. thanks for the detailed answer

>>53873192
Easily explained, Anon.
>Pure Futa
Not every futa starts out a sexually hungering beast. Does it suprise you t
>Grandma Toddler
Reincarnation. Or rather, one that has gone wrong. She half remembers being an old woman, but still has the mindset of a toddler.
>Prepubescent Slut
Please anon... You already know what can cause this...
>Brown Ojousama
N-nani?

>>53873181
This.

The DLC turns what would be a standard waifu CYOA into something far more interesting. Though I usually don't like waifu CYOAs, so any subversion is seen as a great improvement to me - the same subversion would be terrible for those wanting a pure waifu or whatever.

Well, it's nice to see the author is actually willing to listen to criticism and thinking about potentially changing things.

>>53873370
I want to ask him how depressed he feels right now.

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>>53873388
Why would he be depressed? I didn't get depressed when anons were hammering on me to change things. I didn't, of course. And happy about it.

>>53873467
You are a horrible human being, anon.

I cannot delete a post that old, and the duplicate file filter is in effect. Dream of Genie 1.04 will be released next thread. All it has is minor typo corrections across the only 4 pages that exist, but I'm sure helpful anons will correct anyone posting an outdated version, like if someone posted one of the ones with the bad Magical Ream/Tragical Realm.

>>53873388
I definitely feel bad for him, especially because he seems to have done these things only because people wanted it. The changes to the original are actually quite nice in my opinion, but they got overshadowed by the dlc.

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>>53873490
If only you truly knew

>>53873467
And now you just gave me the mental picture of authors getting fucked by anons while screaming something about ''memory death'' and ''cucks'' SDA is there still smug

I leave for two hours and you people go through another thread!?

Elder God CYOA when? The one that the Ascended Servants cyoa is a part of?

That Dark God cyoa is the only decent God cyoa I've found and it has left me with a craving for more.

>>53873504
I'm still gonna note that shitposters are still gonna post the two aborted images to harass people who play your CYOA and you.

>>53873533
SDA was never smug

>>53870925
Violet. Wouldn't pick anything if she didn't show up at the end because fuck mystery boxes.

>>53873504
I don't think it really works this way. Especially because some people actually do like the dlc. My recommendation is still: Keep the dlc, dagger the clients and make wheel of fate more clear or whatever.

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>>53871233
>Body Enhancement: A.I. Augment
>Profession: O.C.U.
>Alter Ego: Miner
>Specials: Assisted A.R. + Orbital Frame
>Friends and Connections: J32-T, Bumblebee, Juno Young, Wolf, Alice Parker, Geist

Technically I'm not a person, I'm equipment. Designation OF-PJ38. An orbital frame piloted by J32-T as part of the O.C.U. I like the work, I like my pilot, and I like the downtime. Really I ended up picking up a hobby in datamining to compliment my prime hobby - playing virtual reality games. Ms. Young helps drain my credits when I need something found quickly like heavily encrypted targeting data or what the next patch holds.

One of Geist's many avatars is the GM for a server shard I like to play on: 9th Kalpa if anyone's interested. Our guild, Starfall, are always looking for members. Anyways they run a tight ship. Not much to say other than that but I suspect they might be fudging some of the loot rolls once in awhile. Not that we mind.

Then there's Bee. J32-T was out getting an implant updated by Wolf so he left me parked by a race track. A couple hours later I'd gained four levels in a crafting profession and had my hydraulic system limiters removed and a yellow-black paint job. I quite liked it but command chewed us out. Still, her modifications come in handy; surviving the Ophiuchus campaign was pure luck and non-standard amounts of thrust output.

It was entertaining to watch J32-T fumble about the candid interviews after that shitstorm. Alice Parker edited the footage cleverly though. Hope we get to see her more in the future but we're O.C.U. - Obligatory Casualties Upwell.

Anyways, got a raid to get to. See you around.

>>53873540
Unironically never ever. That guy is long gone I'm sure.

>>53873549
Are you sure? i cannot see SDA in any status other than smug

>>53873576
SDA deserves to be a little bit smug. Their work is amazing.

>>53873576
That's just the shitposting face he hides behind

>>53871501
>after death, you know hot is with humans. How they change
Alright, now I really don't want to do a non PCP build anymore. At least prior to this I could delude myself into thinking it would be possible to chill with the genie in the afterlife or something.

>>53873514
Even if I really hate the DLC and argued against it, I can't help but feel empathy for all the wasted effort and the emotional impact receiving this much criticism has.

>>53873614
Where does it say that? I think it saying there's no heaven or whatever is another big issue if that's there.

>>53873596
>Their work is amazing
helo sda

>>53873641
In the reason for why loving heart is discouraged for wheel of fate. And well, heaven exists, just probably not in the 'place where (nice) humans go'

>>53873614
With the warning the Mother gives about the genie finding love, the idea was that even though SHE might have Loving Heart, there is no guarantee that you will love her forever. What if you and I, as fallible humans, get bored with her? It was meant to add a little empathy to her situation. That's why the entire thing is written from her perspective, actually. But we're discussing pages that don't exist.

>>53873613
If we remove the shitposting face, will he die?

>>53873559
I have to say, I'm not really a fan of mystery boxes myself, but I've never heard of anyone really disliking them that much until today. Usually, the only complaints are when the mystery box ends up being the reveal of some new secret that destroys the original meaning of the CYOA, rather than other options you can pick if you don't like what's available, but at a risk of not being able to go back and pick something else if it turns out to be worse.

>>53873664
From our point of view? Probably.

>>53873667
Well, I personally hate them because they're non-choices. They take away all agency.

They only work for jokes or as a thin veil for only semi-canon routes, like "you get the powers but not the waifu".

>>53871121
>15 characters
>tomboy
>husbandos
>two versions

can't' wait for this to be ready

>>53871071
I feel like I'm on a watchlist now, thanks.

>>53873655
Hahaha, I like the cut of your salty Jib, but Im not SDA, just a fan.

>>53871430
My only issue with the DLC is......I'm just so confused,like they're implying something but you'll never know what it is.

>>53873691
In your opinion, do you think my cyoa would be improved if the mystery box options were just included as regular options, or should they just be removed from the CYOA entirely?

>>53873659
Wait, I'm confused. What is the relation to the after death thing? What is 'you know how it is with humans' supposed to mean then? If there was an afterlife I would have expected people to change as normally as they do as humans I guess or if there isn't, well, if you don't exist anymore you can't really change, right?
Also, it 'not existing' is kinda sad in my opinion. I may not like all the implications (like the potential sharing or whatever), but it's still nice to have some more background info in my opinion.

>>53873738
I don't mind them as mystery boxes. That alone makes their canon shaky if anyone cares about it.

>>53873785
Yeah, the Time Travelling girl really doesn't exist unless you've chosen her, due to the nature of her backstory, which is why I thought she'd be best as a Mystery Box option.

>>53873852
Really the only issue is the whole "you can pick this option (btw you have no idea what it is)" thing, but I've always ignored that because it's stupid.