Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1565: Cute Vampires Edition

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Alucard is cute! CUTE!

Is the thread going to die like this?

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>>53870367
Here have a Krod.

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>>53870270
>vampires
>cute

>>53870292
Eh, vampires suck. Alucard is merely the best of a bad bunch.

>>53870367
What is dead shall eternal lie, for in strange eons even death may die.

I'm debating: I want a space dragon for a ship. Should I go with the Light of Terra with appropriate Tyranid and Dark Eldar upgrades, or the Ether Drake from the new Stellaris jump?

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>>53870395
>cute
>vampires

To StellarisAnon:
>no drawback limits
>can leave ealry by conquering everyone
Is taking a lot / all of the higher-tier drawbacks then conquering the galaxy in under 10 years viable to 'evade' the drawbacks like the War In Heaven, Unbidden, The Swarm, etc?

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>>53870270
>>53870292
>>53870395
>>53870453

>>53870434
>Find your favorite huge ship
>Take Fleshmetal to it
>Gourmet Cells
>Resident Evil Virus with very specific focus

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Alright folks, so I noticed a trend in people updating old Jumps so I went and have attempted to update my very first Jump here on JC.

Dwarf Fortress

Whats New?
>So many god damn typos fixed
>300cp perks are now 200cp
>400cp perks have been added
>Nobles get +200cp to spend on items.
>Tweaked the higher CP drawbacks
>A couple free items and pets for Origins
>Friends! is no longer a 100cp Drop In perk
>Drop Ins got a new 100cp perk
>There is now a Companion section

This is still a WIP update as I haven't formatted it or anything. Its all crunch stuff. After I iron it out, I'll go back, put in spacing and junk to make it prettier and then drop the finished update.

Meant to do this last night but it was pretty dead in here. Thoughts, comments or suggestions?

>>53870465
Domination or Federation would be easier, as Conquest would mean you'd have to fight the Fallen Empires, Unbidden, and Prethoryn Swarm. With Domination or Federation you just need to go for a land grab or make friends with the non-major threat empires.

>>53870489
So yes to Light of Terra, then, since I'd need to go there to get the Fleshmetal Virus?

>People that you turn into the Host of a fully synergized Symbiote pair have the option of becoming a Companion if they're willing to come with you
...Wait.

>>53870490
Ooh, Menaces With Spikes of Pig Tail should be fun to play with.

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>>53870270
I am the cutest.

Still none with black hair, flat chests, and blood though. Not that aren't nekkid.

Wasn't able to post it before the last thread died, but for the Stellaris Jump is "Uplifting and Integration" suppose to not have a price?

>>53870401
>Eh, vampires suck.
That's the point, anon.

>>53870490
Are you excited for expeditions?

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>>53870270
Best vampire girl.

>>53870521
And upon looking at the perk again, I noticed I put Both twice one after another. Fixed.

>>53870541
Honestly no. I'd much rather take War! against everyone and start a Crusade or something. Staying in one spot and building a base doesn't sound that fun. I'd much rather invade Hell.

>>53870528
It's 300.

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>>53870486
>Implying that any vampire whose death would be a noteworthy achievement does anything as base as "roaming the wild."
Don't insult your betters, you cretinous patchwork. It is not conducive to a long life.

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Question to the thread, from someone who is eternally frustrated by their own writing habits:

In most cases, it goes without saying that most Jumpers can handle most situations in one way or another, but tell me about the times where you were clearly punching way above your weight. Especially from early In your chains, where you were clearly unprepared and probably should have died from the absurd challenges you wrote yourselves into.

Alternatively, if your feeling especially meta, as a writer, what times did you write your jumper getting through imposdible situations that you know for a fact should have ended their chain?

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Are any of you Klingons, /jc/?

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>>53870557
Seras really is best girl.
Speaking of who, did she get turned alongside your Jumper in the Hellsing Jump?

>>53870521
>>53870562
Oh and yes. I tried to think of some of the sillier stuff that could be done and turn it into a perk.

I will have so much fun engraving gems with scenes of feasts before embedding them into clothing woven with scenes of feasts and after creating such a magical item, engrave the very walls of various random mountains with pictures of statues and paintings of said suit of feasting.

>>53870494
I chose the Conquest Ending because 1: I also plan to take the Galaxy At War drawback (so I assume the Federation Ending is out) and the Domination ending mentions 'control 40% of habitable planets /at the end of the jump/' (which would make bypassing the 800/1000 pointers since most of them only arrive about 10 to 20 years after jump beginning.

>>53870434

Light of Terra also has (same DLC where you get Fleshmetal) a Void Kraken you can encounter.

Makes for a pretty good source of massive biological components. Some work and you could probably get an equivalent of the Tyranid feeder tendrils from it.

>>53870609
Of course. She's still her good old self, but I imagine a lot of pressure gets taken off of her with another fledgling around.

>>53870615
Okay, but my point is that Conquest isn't going to get you around having to deal with those drawbacks.

>>53870626
Did you waifu her?

>>53870635
I thought about it, but with Abridged Girlycard macking on and teasing me constantly it would have been kinda hard.

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>>53870596
Caitians forever.

>>53870622
Maybe.Though if I'm playing with Fleshmetal (I had totally forgotten that it just gets you the virus and not makes your ship into it directly), I'll probably start with a purely mechanical thing first. I'll study the Kraken's biology to reproduce it in biometallic form, but I wouldn't just graft it on.

>>53870646
For shame, Anon

>>53870588
That's a duck.

>>53870658
>Look like cats
>Personality is more like dogs
>Will basically suck your dick if you're nice to them and will be loyal forever

>>53870562
Personally I'm getting impatient for boats.

>>53870646
Or you could have just taken the opportunity to date both sire and fledgling.

>>53870609
Yes I did get turned, we became quite close because of our shared bond.

>>53870678
>>53870720
Anon. There is a perverted vampiress trying her hardest to get into my pants while also being as annoying and quippy as she can possible be, all because she knows it gets to me. How can I have time to waifu?

>>53870695
Yes.

>>53870731
By proposing a threeway, obviously. That also has the benefit that Girlycard will be distracted from quipping.

>>53870751
It's a cute duck. I'd feed it bread and other assorted eats.

>>53870588
Pokemon.

I wasn't as durable as the natives, being a Drop-In. Thank goodness for Pokemon Centers and my team, or I'd be starved, dehydrated, and missing a spine.

>>53870767
Isn't female Alucard a stolen child's form? The same apparent age as Walter during WWII?

>>53870767
Seras would never go for that anon.

>>53870717
Ah, I just realized you were refering to the actual game. My bad.

Its all the same to me really though I really would like the option to gain large groups of followers in Adventure mode. I'm sure after something like expeditions is added, something similar might come out to let you send war parties out and junk.

I'm still happy to finally have fruit trees and stuff. I tend to try and start in areas with natural fruiting trees but otherwise take a lot of seeds with me to start with and just plant large orchards. Same with dozens of turkeys and such since I've fed entire forts on just eggs and booze before.

Boats would be interesting. I'm not sure how it would work though. It would probably be a bitch to code into a game like DF though.

PS: Now I have to be a pirate when I jump DF just cause it now occurs to me no one ever uses boats it seems.

>>53870795
You're on an anime imageboard created by lolicons exiled from Something Awful.

>>53870796
Ahem.

Charisma perks.

Your fetishes are everybody's fetishes.

>>53870850
Hellsing is like my fifth jump or something. It was super early because my chain started when we were in double digit threads.

>>53870803
Well the reason he hasn't added boats is because they'd use the same mechanics as multi-tile creatures, which is something he has planned and yeah, will be a huge bitch to do.

>>53870795
Maybe? I forget, honestly. That still makes her fourteen. Not the most pedophiliac thing ever.

>>53870658
I think this is how Chakats were made.

>>53870914
Legal in Louisiana, Alabama, and a good part of Europe.

Not that you should care with anime characters. Or when she's legitimately mentally hundreds of years old. 1000 year old loli vampires may be a meme, but morally there's not much you can complain about there that's actually logical.

>>53870918
Chakats are pretty much nothing like Caitians personality wise, but yeah, they were probably inspired by them. The creator saw the Caitians, didn't know anything else and decided "Yeah that's hot, but you know what would be even hotter? If they were cat taur futas with multiple rows of breasts, were huge sluts, and were perfect Mary Sues nobody is allowed to hate."

>>53870631
Hmm, but i thought it said you could leave early if you completed it, so you could potentially leave before those threats actually showed up.
Oh well, I might be wrong so I'll wait for StellarisAnon to correct me if I am.

Has anyone ever tried making a Jump for the Shadow Hearts series?

>>53871082
No, though that sounds fun. Go for it, anon.

>>53870767
>>53870795
>>53870850
>>53870914
>>53870930

All this talk about right or wrong is cool and all, but does any of it any matter, it's beyond me how any Jumpers think they have a chance in hell of seducing girlycard.

It's not even a matter of charisma at this point, especially if we're referring to abridged Alucard. The harder you try to seduce him/her the more motivated he'll/she'll be to blueball you all into the ultraviolet spectrum.

>>53871143
Nobody is seducing Girlycard.

Girlycard is seducing them.

>>53871159
Exactly. We're just lying back and thinking of England.

>>53870646
It'd have me kinda hard too.

>>53871143
Like he says here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0C3IhWcJH0

>"And there's no one alive who can comprehend my sexual preference!"

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>>53870557
>>53870609
Hear hear.

>>53871369
Did you give Seras power armor?

>>53871415
T'was her Warframe that was converted into power armor, aye.

It's a lot more intricate and complicated, but given the guy I commished from was just doing quick 10-dollar sketches to get funds stockpiled I just went with the Ivara Frame. Going to use it as a basis for the later designs.

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>>53870490
Hast thou heard of the legendary tale of Cacame Awemedinade? Elven King of the Dwarves? I am most certain that he would be most blessed by Armok for his devoted hatred of Elven kind and grand heroic history.

Link for context: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Cacame_Awemedinade

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>>53871456
Ivara a Cuteframe

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>>53871476
>be jumper
>has a ton of tech and intelligence perks
>goes to build new warframes
>ends up building waifuframes

>>53870486
Wasn't the quote "Both swords are for monsters. A Witcher isn't a hired murderer, a soldier or a professional duelist. He's trained to stay out of trouble as far as humans are concerned. But trouble has a way of finding Geralt."

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What's your favorite answer to criminality, Jumpers?

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>>53870292
Eh, kinda cute. I much prefer Seras.

>>53870557
Truth.

>>53870609
She did, I spent most of the jump helping her transition from "meek police girl" to "Vampiric powerhouse". I mean she already does so without Jumper aid, but I helped it along.

>>53870646
You are silly.

>>53870731
How do you NOT have time to waifu?

>>53870767
I'm pretty sure Abdirgedcard will quip even during sex. Using telepathy if needed.

>>53870795
I remember hearing it's actually based on Mina Harker, but I have no source so take it with a grain of salt.

>>53870796
>>53870850
Also Abridged Seras is dirtier than you, or her, give her credit for. It's just buried.

>>53871143
Abridgedcard doesn't seem the blueballing type. Actually they seem big on sex.

>>53871369
Respect for you finally getting a waifu is the only reason I didn't waifu Seras.

>>53870490
This makes me want a Rimworld or Gnomoria jump.

What decent perks are out there for developing fanbases?

>>53871628
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ftF5aZ6bDUA#t=1112s

18:32 if it doesn't go right.

Not really Geralts own quote I suppose but hey maybe he did make it his own later.

>>53871864
The problem is the difference between Books/Games. The games say the "silver sword for monsters, steel for humans" thing. The books very much avoid that.

>>53871914
Well when he says both are for monsters he means humans can be just as bad as monsters.

>>53871755
Recycling. Keep the Earth green, through mind ra... reprogramming.
It's the only ethical solution.

>>53870490
Do artifacts created with Fey Mood turn out any better than normal?

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>>53871755
Unspeakable things

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>Reading the Altelier Arland jump
>no high impact sexual violence
What gives?

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what did you in sekirei /jc/?

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https://pastebin.com/qW5J32eq

Complete write-up and all 3 parts of the Tenchi jump are done.

>>53872116
And you just kicked off more Dirge-related shitposting.

Great. Thanks. Fucking thank you. We needed more of it. /s

>>53872116
Make your own Atelier Arland jump if you're not satisfied.

>>53872153
Tore down Minaka's corrupt company
Ensured the Sekirei all found their true Ashikabi
Beat the shit out of anyone who tried to force a Winging.
Got waifus.

>>53872153
Grew a beard, dressed as Abe Lincoln, freed the sekirei.

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>>53872153
108 things. In order.

>>53871807
Do it!

>>53871467
Added

>>53871997
Ah, I thought I put in they are artifact quality. Will make that very clear.

>>53871755
compassionate rehabilitation and attacking the underlying causes of crime rather than going For retribution

>>53872153
Gathered waifus, kicked in the teeth of anyone trying to force waifus into inane tournament.

>>53872271
Yeah, found it.

>as long as it takes to craft an Artifact level item of the highest craftsmanship---even if you aren't all that great at crafting things.

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>>53872275
...did I stumble into an alternate timeline?

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>>53872154

Was waiting for this one bro, Gonna give it a read through now and there better be harem antics

>>53872116
Go to SB if you want to talk about SB jumps.

>>53872153
Had Nali mind-control Minaka (after several run-ins with body-doubles), made him abdicate control of the company to his wife / the protag's mom, then we threw Minaka somewhere over the horizon with an amnesia spell that'll expire in about twenty years or so.

Then set up a system where the Sekirei were exposed to the Ashikabi candidates only after the Ashis were put through a series of "tests of character" (weeding out assholes like the pharmaceutical company chairman). Did my best cooperating with the company to ensure it ran as smoothly as possible.

Alas, did not have the foresight to dress up as Abraham Lincoln, but I was hiding in space. Build still fluctuates, has been retconned several times but the end events all stay the same.

>>53872315
criminality=/= evil Sleuth Anon,the law can only enforce the will of the state, it is at best a roundabout and unthinking and unfeeling form of justice. It is evil, inequality and suffering I seek to destroy harsh punishments for lawbreaking will not accomplish this.

>>53872315
"Compassionate rehabilitation" means "mind control" in Tera language.

>>53872390
Oh, that makes more sense. Just more nuanced than I'm used to from you.

>>53872392
Sepaking of mind control, is the "steal your heart" routine the Phantom Thieves do in Persona 5 kosher for you guys, or is it just mind control by another name?

>>53872451
It's just another form of mind rape, imo.

>>53872271
>Ah, I thought I put in they are artifact quality. Will make that very clear.
Great, thanks. It was unclear for me because I already craft artifact level items when I feel like it.

>>53872451
Unsure. It seems hazy enough I'd want to play the game to make an opinion.

>>53872392
no, it means lots and lots of court ordered therapy administered by a super intelligent true AI with absolute knowledge of your mind and the equivalent of Several million years of psychology practice.

>>53872486
No, it's mind control you sick fuck.

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>>53872329
How about no, I'll talk about whatever jumps I want, because I don't capitulate to shitposters or terrorists?

What do you guys think of the Atelier Arland jump? What did you do there?

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>>53871755
Reprogramming

>>53872493
o I only use that in extreme cases where traditional methods are not an option like with the Jovian Republic.

Is Epicureanon around?

>>53872451
Flatly mind control, but a weirdly palatable one. It's not forcing your thoughts into their mind, and only removes an obstacle to the targets own sense of morals. Presumably, if they were truly okay with what they'd done there would be no sense of wrong afterwards.

>>53872503
I quite enjoy it. I think it's a fun jump with some great stuff for crafters. As for what I did, I shapeshifted into a talking cat and became the mascot of the atelier. Mostly I just lazed around being cute, occasionally playing the straight man to Astrid to aid in trolling her students. My own trolling was rather more primitive than her brand, consisting largely of shouting "just kiss already" during every bit of awkward sexual tension the alchemists had with their friends. So pretty much constantly, my god are those games full of subtext.

>>53870490
SO.

Fey Mood + Strong Spark (Girl Genius) + Chosen of Death (Lord of Light) + Forgemaster (Marvel Magic) + Craftsmen of the Gods (Viking Saga) + Maker (Darksiders) + Daedalus' Student boosted (God of War).

On a scale of 1 to 10. How crafty.

>>53872503
Can you just stop shitposting for once?

>>53872486
Path To Victory mind fucking is still mind fucking. All you're doing is pulling out a strategy guide and following specific instructions to get your chosen ending. You are completely removing their agency in this matter.

Just use a helm of reverse alignment and be done with it. It requires nothing but acknowledgement and acceptance that you're a terrible person for using it, and let them use it if they want to change back.

>>53872451
Depends on if it enforces guilt or a moral system other than your own, if it just removes the obstacles to understand what you've done then someone who is genuinely unrepentant should be entirely unfazed, if you can even rob them in the first place.

>>53872154
>And a soft hand gently pets his head as he drifted off into sleep.
D'aww.

>>53872680
tell me what the Cut off point for therapy versus mind fucking is then? i am using a tool to help a person Help themselves to grow and change I am not changing them!

>>53872153
I didn't.

>>53872680
>Path To Victory mind fucking is still mind fucking. All you're doing is pulling out a strategy guide and following specific instructions to get your chosen ending. You are completely removing their agency in this matter.
So what, therapy is always mind fucking unless it's unsuccessful?

>>53872153
I think most everyone's can be summed up as get waifus, punch Minaka

>>53872680
>Morality
How quaint.

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>>53872451
Well, normally palaces only form in the presence of "distorted desires," which has some wonky implications. Through whatever mechanism, incorrect urges are imposed upon fundamentally good people. Stealing their heart destroys the palace and its influence over its host.

Of course, if you frame the distorted desires as being separate from their true self so as to avoid the mind control association, the vicims aren't fully culpable for their crimes and should have reduced sentences at least due to being victims. If the distorted desires /are/ part of the person, then removing them is mind-raping a criminal, after which they get to serve prison time too.

Persona 5 is pretty, but for a game trying to sell itself on psychological themes it's ultimately rather vapid.

>>53872680
>Path To Victory mind fucking is still mind fucking. All you're doing is pulling out a strategy guide and following specific instructions to get your chosen ending. You are completely removing their agency in this matter.
I hate myself for defending bancho in this, but I think you're wrong. That's not removing their agency, it's merely revealing the truth that most people don't like to admit: That we don't have agency in the first place. We are deterministic systems, that respond to inputs in complex but fundamentally predictable manners. The only difference between a hyper-intelligent AI brainwashing a person and you convincing them of something in a conversation is the effectiveness of the prediction methods. It's still using the mechanisms for changing the mind that are built into it, most people define "mind fucking" or "mind rape" as installing new mechanisms for changing the mind through methods like telepathy or neurosurgery or the like.

>>53872730
Any form of personal change is identity death and human interaction is mind rape if you are any different from who you were before the iteration. Charisma is mind control, sex is evil, I'm a god in my own mind.

>>53872451
As far as I remember, it's less mind control and more making the target feel remorse for their evil actions, as I recall. It's taking away any excuses or obstacles they have that prevent them from acknowledging that what they did was wrong. I mean, that might qualify as mind control to some, but to me it just seems like making the target actually listen to their conscious and feel remorse for their actions.

>>53872779
>I'm a god in my own mind.
You fool! Do not let the Chupacabras hear you say that.

>>53872503
desu, the tiered perks stuff is weird and I don't understand it, and honestly, a lot of it feels wholly unnecessary or just not useful at all. Like, a lot of the perks just add aesthetic differences, or make you marginally better in some small way.

>>53872779
Then we die every day?

>>53872855
It's a Dirge jump, were you expecting it to be useful?

>>53872857
We're all slowly dying, man. Every minute that passes leaves us that little bit closer to the end.

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>>53872865
>aesthetics
>not useful

>>53872857
Maybe you do, but I've holed myself up in my cave for the past 12 years and abjectly refuse to change in any way shape or form, so I'm still the same person I was back then.

Had another recurring WWII dream last night, new unit was moving into European town that I was in. Yelled at them to get the hell out of the street when mortar fire started raining and I dove into my hole inside a bombed out home. Next thing I know an explosion half buries me in dirt and then a body falls over me. Shit like this makes me wonder about reincarnation.

Do you jumpers ever get woken up in the middle of the night by memories of what you did in the past?

>>53872722

There isn't a cutoff, or any sharp defining line. Random action is ineffective, enlightened action is so effective as to be abusive.

However, willingness on the part of the victim and openness about the methods to be used on them and their implications, indicates that, while it might still be more brainwashing than therapy, it's probably okay-ish.

>>53872722
How much consent and choice in the matter they have tends to define it for good or for ill. No mortal could hope to have the will to resist god tier charisma, so unless they make the choice on their own to subject themselves to that whether you talked to them or directly altered their mind has no real difference.

Of course, threatening them with prison or death if they don't do so builds an incentive system, which is basically outright manipulation anyways.

>>53872772
Except, you know, in practice there is a difference. We're working with Jumping where metaphors and literature rules can have just as much weight as Deterministic scientific principles. While in our world it may be entirely understandable to hold that point of view in a multiverse where Free Will is a scientifically provable phenomenon and physics can care about people's emotions than what's the difference between sufficiently advanced charisma and outright mind control?

>>53872906
Your brain shuts off when you sleep and your body completely replaces all of its cells every ten years.

>>53872857
>Then we die every day?

Sometimes when it's really warm outside, I die a couple of times at noon as well.

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>>53872968
>I die a couple of times at noon

Not surprising.

>>53872921
Oh shit, you're a Jumper who's getting ready to WAKE UP.
Your memories are coming back because you're about to WAKE UP.
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>>53872921
I had nightmares about the Lucifer fight for a long time after Devil Survivor. My chain nearly ended there, and we only barely defeated him. That kind of thing sticks with you, and I found out later that my companions were also suffering from trauma caused by that fight. It really hit us hard.

>>53872942
>Of course, threatening them with prison or death if they don't do so builds an incentive system, which is basically outright manipulation anyways.

crime=/=karma score death is not a punishment for crime In my society and imprisonment is hardly a deterrent when everyone lives forever,we have things like stipend reductions,fabe access denial,media privilege reductions,outlawing,and ostracism.

>>53872921
Sometimes I have dreams about things and then they happen several days later. Usually minor things like what I'll eat for lunch or finding abandoned money.

>>53873061
So the incentive system is social, and as humans are highly social creatures that's probably worse than outright imprisonment.

You're just treating them like children anyways though, so their moral value is negligible for your society.

>>53873128
>moral value is negligible

I don't think you're using that right Could you elaborate?

>>53872643
I'd imagine with the right materials and facilities, you'd start doing things like producing Hard Light Socks without any sort of apparent emitter causing you to start drinking heavily as you try to comprehend just how badly you just bent reality.

And that statue depicting the screaming souls of horses made out of what you think might be solidified dreams and willpower doesn't help either. It menaces with spikes of concentrated psionic power.

>>53872942
>While in our world it may be entirely understandable to hold that point of view in a multiverse where Free Will is a scientifically provable phenomenon and physics can care about people's emotions than what's the difference between sufficiently advanced charisma and outright mind control?
Do those physics that interact with the mind do so in predictable ways? If so, it's still a deterministic system. If not, then it's functionally random and it doesn't actually grant free will because you have no choice in the matter. Either way, there's no difference between charisma and mind control. Your mistake is assuming that mind control is a bad thing. It's not. Minds are meant to control other minds. Social interaction is one of the primary functions of advanced intelligence. We only care when one mind controls another in ways that the target isn't designed to interact with. Then it gets weird and uncomfortable, because we're operating outside the design parameters. But if you're just doing the normal interactions at a much higher level of play than the other is used to, that's fine.

>>53873152
They are treated as toys, they are merely decoration for your society as far as how it operates. They could all cease to be and it wouldn't really matter.

And since you stifle your society's people, leaving them as children rather than allowing them to explore true power, why are they even human? It would be almost effortless to give them the tools to ascend to divinity. There are already many sources of power that do not remove their humanity even then, they do not need to ascend to AI Godhood if they have Spiral Power or even Ki.

But alas, you give them no value other than to satisfy your egotistical morals, and as such, they have no value beyond such.

>>53872796
Making you feel something magically is mind control.

>>53872760
>Rapist
>Fundamentally good person

>>53873226
Fair enough.

>>53872942
>Your brain shuts off when you sleep
No it doesn't.

>>53872503
It's a very bad jump and comes off as having no effort put into it. Most of the perk options are useless, the way perks are laid out feels ripped off from one of Red's jumps, and it's obvious that the items were just copying custom item tables from Red. I don't know how the jump managed to even get on the drive, but it's safe to say that it's an example of how not to make a jump.

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>>53873216
>>They are treated as toys, they are merely decoration for your society as far as how it operates. They could all cease to be and it wouldn't really matter.

what exactly gives you that impression? They are my society, and I defend them and support them as their God.

>And since you stifle your society's people, leaving them as children rather than allowing them to explore true power, why are they even human? It would be almost effortless to give them the tools to ascend to divinity. There are already many sources of power that do not remove their humanity even then, they do not need to ascend to AI Godhood if they have Spiral Power or even Ki.

They have access to all my knowledge, mystical and scientific, all my production facilities, all my super materials, etc. Also they have both Spiral Power and Ki,where are you getting this crap? the only thing they don't get is companion imports

>But alas, you give them no value other than to satisfy your egotistical morals, and as such, they have no value beyond such.

And what exactly are you basing this on?

>>53873226
It's less that you're making them feel something and more that you're making them not feel something. Specifically, you're making them not feel justified in their actions, and their own mind fills in the rest. Eliminating a thought is probably just as much mind control as creating one, though.

>>53873281
Anons, take a good look at this post. It has all the hallmarks of the shitposter's 'criticism'. Feel free to ignore anyone who tries to argue against your jump like this.

>>53873295
Same thing.

>>53873281
Red's hardly the standard for jumpmaking, anon.

>>53873319
Yes, that's what I said. Read the full god-damned post, anon. It's three sentences long, is that so much of a fucking imposition?

>>53873213
I feel like I received the wrong message from this post, since I took 'We only care when one mind controls another in ways that the target isn't designed to interact with' as meaning that mind control and brainwashing are like anal sex or bestiality. Unnatural and inappropriate because no one was ever meant to be able to do it with each other, and so it just isn't healthy, safe, or ethical for the participants.

>>53873313
Thanks anon, I'll take it to heart.

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Uh... Hey look, a distraction!

Except Albedo is a good character now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEwFDH3M57g

>>53873331
The jump is literally just a copy and paste job. It's definitely worse than whoever you want to call is the standard.

>>53873374
Albedo was always a good character.

>>53873374
She was always a good character. This is shit though.

>>53873374
>abridged
>22 minutes
How long are normal episodes?

>>53873374
But Albedo is another example of brainwashing. Checkmate, anon.

>>53873411
I mean, lies are fine and all, but spam is another thing. I don't care if you want yo shitpost discussion about Dirge's jumps since I can just ignore it, but I'd like for you to shut up after one or two of the same instead of repeating yourself.

>>53873479
What in his post was a "lie"?

>>53872503
>What did you do there?
Had day long lesbian orgies with all the main cast. So, just the standard for the setting I guess?

>>53873521
What in 'his' post? Your post. Your lies. All of it. You are a liar. Stop samefagging.

>>53872921
That reminds me of a similar story

>be in high school
>go to a friends house since school ended early
>since we had nothing to do we decided to do some regression therapy with the help of youtube
>after half an hour we ask my friend what did he see
>"it seemed like medieval times, and I was some sort of farmer."
>we laugh at him for being a filthy peasant

I didn't see shit, and my other friend can't stand still for more than five minutes. But on the note on strange dreams, I have a recurring character in many of them, I usually help him with something mundane and continue with my dream, but I wake up extremely happy for some reason.

>>53873479
>lies are fine and all
Have you gotten to the point where anything that's negative comes off as a shitpost to you? The jump is low quality. Everything in it was just copied from another jump and added in without any reason. Tiered perks are just a bad way to copy capstone boosters. The synthesis item is a bad copy of Red's custom items and there isn't even an item stipend. The scenario is a bad copy of Harry Potter's scenarios and is even worse because it's just a wall of text that doesn't follow the scenario template.

>>53873374

"Okay, before you get angry-"
"ANGRY?! WHY WOULD I BE ANGRY? IS IT POSSIBLE MY BELOVED GAVE A RING TO A LITTLE BOY BEFORE HIS FIANCÉ?!?!?!"
"There are a lot of things wrong with that sentence!"

That made my morning.

>>53873521
He's just shitposting because he can't think of anything to defend the jump with when people bring up legitimate complaints. The only thing he can do is call others shitposters and hope people ignore how bad the jump is.

>>53873597
>without any reason
>he says without knowing the IP in question at all

Also you haven't been here long enough to remember it came out before Harry Potter got scenarios added, or indeed many of the things you seem to think it copied.

>>53873597
Just repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make you right, it's just spam. Don't you know that spam is against the rules? You could be reported for that.

>>53873597
Surprised you can even find the time to type with how much you're sucking Red's dick and making shit up.

>People call him out
>He pretends to be all sides because he can't think of a change of topic to shitpost about
Can we just nuke this guy's state yet?

The shitposter religiously attacking every jump dirge has made with illegitimate, unfounded, and obviously false complaints have basically made it impossible to say bad things about jumps without being called a shitposter.

>>53872153
Escaped in the Dragonzord because it was way to early for me to help the Sekirei (Jump # 4) and I had nothing to trade with Minaka for their freedom.

>>53873254
If the "Distorted Desires" aren't part of the person, then the person isn't any more responsible for their actions than anyone else under mind control. The phantom thieves let their targets take the full rap anyway.
If distorted desires are part of the person, then they mind raped Kamoshida to get even over the physical rape he partook in. That's understandable, but it's vengeance not justice. It's pretty common for the abused to become abusers themselves, but that angle isn't explored.

There was nowhere near enough introspection in this regard.

>>53873777
It sounds like a terrible game.

>>53873724
Those claims that Red and dirge are the shitposter(s) make more sense with that in mind. Masquerade as some troll so that they render any criticism of themselves impossible.

>>53872503
It's one of the better jumps on the drive, although obviously not very popular or talked about much because it isn't high powered.

>>53873810
>Those claims that Red and dirge are the shitposter(s) make more sense with that in mind.
Maybe if you don't have a brain or are a shitposter yourself.

>>53873787
Persona's been pretty solidly "turn off your brain" territory for a while. It's like how in P4 Adachi was an awful reprobate, but almost every party member (except Naoto, Naoto a best) couldn't field any arguments against his manchild philosophy except "UR WRONG, WE'LL HIT YOU TO PROVE IT." Really making me think about the human condition here, guys.

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>"Where were you?"
>...
>"Okay, where WERE you?"
>...
>"You didn't find any of them, did you?"
>"No."
>"And what about the-"
>"No."
>...
>"Stop mocking me."
>"No, no, don't worry. I'm sure I can think of something. So, I notice you haven't picked your next world yet!"
>"I'm waiting."
>"Waiting for what?"
>"I noticed you writing about a black dragon who could break the world."
>"Oh, THAT's what you're waiting for. Maybe you should check a few other places first."
>"What do you mean?"
>"How do you feel about superheroes?"

>>53873811
>It's one of the better jumps on the drive,
Hah. It might not be "high-powered", but let's not pretend like it's some masterpiece. If a setting being "high-powered" was all that it needed to be popular, then you'd expect more talk about DBAF, DBZ, Rick and Morty, Futurama, Digimon, etc. Instead, the things most commonly discussed are things like Nasu or Worm.

>>53873724
The complaints aren't unfounded, they've been brought up ever since the jumpmaker started making jumps. People just can't accept that not everyone likes their namefag and it becomes a circlejerk. At this point no one cares about defending Dirge, they just want to have a chance at calling someone a shitposter because they don't agree with their opinion.

I mean, is this conversation proof that you actually can't talk about any of Dirges or Reds jumps without it turning into an argument with the shitposter? You can't actually talk about the content, can't engage with it in the thread over it, can't even bring it up without shitposting ensuing. Why do people feel the need to respond to shitposting? Can't they just learn to hide their posts? They're so obvious that it's not hard to pick them out, but you don't even need to, just hide everyone who even slightly resembles a shitposter.

>>53873811
>It's one of the better jumps on the drive
If you have no standards then sure. It's subpar at best, and its popularity doesn't have anything to do with its power level, it's just not a good jump.

>>53873900
Provide specific complaints. Your shitposting amounts to "It's bad." and "Waah how dare you I'm legitimate criticism!", so either provide actual specific problems or go back to slurping cum out of your mom's crusty asshole.

>>53873871
>he's been gone all this time because he doesn't want to admit he failed to find the Maidens

Deepest lore.

Marvel Anon
How goes the latest updates of the
Where in the World is Carman Sandeigo
and Honorverse Jumps?

>>53873811
>because it isn't high powered
Yeah, Cracker_Jack was really something of a blight on this thread. Kind of glad he left, honestly.

>>53873876
>Instead, the things most commonly discussed are things like Nasu or Worm.
>>53873876
>The complaints aren't unfounded
>People just can't accept that not everyone likes their namefag
>it becomes a circlejerk
>At this point no one cares about defending Dirge
>>53873932
>It's subpar at best
>its popularity doesn't have anything to do with its power level
>>53873954
>Yeah, Cracker_Jack was really something of a blight on this thread.

This is cancer.

>>53873934
Alright fine, I'm not the dirge poster but there's something I've noticed about his jumps. What's with the recurring cast of characters telling the reader about the setting? It's really jarring and they're never all that explained in the first place.

>>53873871
How do you manage to not find ANY of the Maidens in ten years?

>>53874000
>Not actually a criticism about Arland

>>53873982
Why are you responding to him? Literally all those posts were the Dirgeposter, it's fucking transparent. Was it too hard to hide and report?

>>53874004
Subtlety. He's not good at it, so they always see him coming. Do you really think Qrow or Ironwood would tell him where they are?

Benefactor even told him to look for Cinder, but not what she looked like.

>>53873982
>Instead, the things most commonly discussed are things like Nasu or Worm.
>its popularity doesn't have anything to do with its power level
What, do you think Nasu or Worm are "high-powered"? Not without the most gratuitous of wank. And at the highest, not any more than other dirge jumps like Final Fantasy or Blame, which are fairly powerful, yet still almost never discussed.

>>53874004
Didn't he roll Middle of the Ocean?

>>53873062
I've had that, it's fucking weird. Currently I've just attributed it to dreaming about something similar and my brain giving me a sense of deja vu.

Question for anyone interested, what does your benefactor actually look like?

Real talk, I'm asking because I just started a new chain, and I always get really hung up on unimportant details like this, I'm just scouting for inspiration so I can settle on a design and move on with my life.

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>>53873374
>Except Albedo is a good character now!

Hey look, an animefag!

>>53873934
Do you need every post to rehash what's already been said? It doesn't help your case if you just scream shitposter at everyone like the word is supposed to mean anything.

Length has always been a complaint for every one of Dirge's jumps and this one is no exception to that. All of the perks take several paragraphs to do what two sentences could have accomplished. The pointless fluff and OC inserts detract from the quality and makes it apparent that he can't actually write. The 19 page scenario doesn't follow scenario standard formatting at all and should have just been a single paragraph.

No item stipend is an immediate flaw. The items section isn't even well developed and lacks polish because of how badly written it is. The way the perks are arranged is just poor even if you can ignore how badly written the language is and the way the jump is formatted makes it even worse.

This is a 53 page jump that should have been a 20 page jump at most. That's not even going into the other flaws like poor balance, lots of useless perks to pad the page count and how the jump seems to just be sections of a wiki cut and paste into a pdf.

>>53874098
>Still non-specific complaints
You're so bad at this.

>>53874021
What? The jump isn't bad by any measure, but calling it "one of the best jumps on the drive" is just dishonest. Maybe in the top 50, but if your standards for "one of the best" includes a full 1/16 of the contenders, then you should probably reevaluate your criteria.

>>53874108
Subjective.

>>53872153
Seven, one, and four.

I only kept seven.

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>>53874081
Lazy shit, doesn't always look like an Elephant though.

>>53873871
Link to previous parts please?

>>53874018
If it was anyone else that made the jump it wouldn't be there, so it's definitely a criticism about Arland. No one asks for some OC narrative and they shouldn't exist.

>>53872503
Everything about this jump is great. I don't think the ranked perks were necessary or something there jumps should go out of their way to emulate, but it's not a problem here because it's executed well in my opinion. Otherwise, it's a shining example of good jump design and should be looked at as a representative of how a jump should be made.

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Magikarp Jump when?

>>53874081
Jump-chan takes possession of any nearby toy (or just makes one appear in an unseeing place that I'm about run onto).

The Benefactor is too eldritch to be described in human terms.

>>53874134
Jump on to it.

>>53874106
They seem specific enough to me. Are you just trying to rile him into shitposting along with you?

>>53872248
>>53872365
>sekirei and abe lincoln
Is there a joke I'm missing?

>>53874081
Usually a female humanoid being made of white or golden light. Though I am guessing my vision of her is very bland and uninspired.

>>53874151
>Him
You need to criticize specific perks, not make generalist statements like you're a horoscope.

>>53874098
>no item stipend
Subjective and not common, especially not in older jumps like that one.

>scenario standard formatting
There is no standard format.

>poorly-developed items section
Compared to what? Subjective again.

>>53874131
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting anon.

>>53874098
>No item stipend is an immediate flaw.
No. Item stipends are shit.

>>53874134
>Magikarp Jump when?
And now we know what BLADE's next project is.
Is this photoshopped, is Jump literally part of it's name?

>>53874081
green hair, blue eyes, pretty young ,wearing a Very professional dress, has a way of appearing out of everyone's blind spot simultaneously, like she was already there and you just didn't realize it . Her gaze is pretty much the only thing that intimidates me anymore.

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>>53874081
Imagine if this guy had a daughter who dressed like him and bleached her hair.

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>>53874081
About 80000 square feet, mostly empty but I moved a couch in, concrete flooring, came with electricity and running water.

>>53874165
Not as far as I'm aware.

>>53874184
Its a nice little phone game, that is the real name, I like it. I may make a jump out of it at some point if nobody else does, the entire game is about raising magikarps to jump higher and higher as you try to keep them alive.

>>53874098
>'Length'
>'fluff'
>'formatting'...should have just been a single paragraph
>No item stipend
>'lacks polish'
>'badly written'
>'formatted'
You have no valid complains, you are worthless as a human being, and no one has ever truly loved you, not even your parents.

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>>53874081
Usually looks like this.

>>53874165
Something something Emancipation.

>>53870465
Ah fuck I keep forgetting things. There's an additional clause that any Drawback over 600 CP means you can't leave for at least fifty years.

>>53874184
Convince me.

>>53874081
It's a rock carved with symbols. Stands about four feet tall, maybe three feet in diameter. Exists in a folded space that resembles a large cavern. Takes about ten years to recharge after jumping to different world. Completely non-sentient.

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>>53874055
Nasu works with high levels of 'hacks' (Conceptual Bullshit) and Worm got Word of God backing at being fucking insanely high level (Reality Warping/Clarke Tech/etc.) so yeah that's not even getting into the wank. Some laces don't need Petatons of force behind it to be "high-powered" the shear amount of diversity in media means that things that don't hit hard can also hit worse than just using shear force.

However, the reason Fate and Worm are discussed more often then DBZ is because of the fact that even to a layman of the sciences the ability to punch hard enough to make a star wink out still is powerful, even if there are people able to make the star into nothing (Medaka Box Pic Related), I'm saying it's easier to understand and thus doesn't need to be talked about quite as often unless you're the kind of person that talks hard calcs and what they do at speeds in excess Percentages of C (Constant of the Speed of Light as we IRL know it).

"High-powered" jumps can come in a verity of packages, thanks in turn to the awesome diversity of various media.

>>53874169
When a jump was made doesn't matter if you're going to judge it. If a jump is bad because it's old, it's still bad. Item stipends are a thing that's been accepted and the fact of the matter is that this jump doesn't have them. This jump doesn't even have a structured section of discounted perks, just some slapped on discounts for one tier. There isn't even any sense in how the other items are laid out.

>There is no standard format.
Yes there is? Look at CCDT, Digger, Desu, the people that introduced scenarios in the first place. There definitely is a template.

>>53873374
>abridged series

You must be 18 to post here.

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>>53874259
>the people that introduced scenarios in the first place

>>53874217
>Can't deny anything that's been said
>Let's just throw shit and hope people side with me.
You can't even look at a jump objectively can you?

>>53874081
>your benefactor actually look like?
Like Jump-Chan. Not being funny here.
There is some attribute involved that makes you know she is the benefactor if she wants your attention. And to others present she is not revealing herself to, it is like trying to focus on a Grey Man from the Wheel of Time series.
Her attributes have a self referential recursion effect where trying to describe her beyond generalities (female, basic human shape) ends up with the description sounding like something from the Shaped Like Itself TV Tropes page.

>>53874217
All of those are valid complains though. Pretty much everyone who can read agrees that Dirge is a terrible writer and his jumps are badly written, and it's fact that there's no item stipend. The jump would be better if you just removed all the unnecessary text that clutters the document.

This is so low effort. I wonder if they put him on anti-psychotics or something.

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>>53873954

>>53874315
You mean removing all the fluff, the only information about the world and characters for people who aren't intimately familiar with the IP?

>>53874315
>The jump would be better if you just removed all the unnecessary text that clutters the document.
Is this a part of the thread shitposter meme at this point? Like, this feel like an ironic shitpost, but I can't even tell anymore.

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>>53874081
It's like twitter, but you can't turn it off and it's omnipresent.

>>53874259
Not every jump needs item stipends, fampai.

>>53874248
>Nasu works with high levels of 'hacks' (Conceptual Bullshit)
I'm familiar with the concept of "hax", anon, and Nasu is at best "mid-level" barring a few exceptions. Also worth noting that Final Fantasy and most other high-power settings also at least dip into that category.

Worm takes a lot of bullshit at a massive scale to produce even the most minor "supernatural" effects. Most Parahumans can be taken out by a well-equipped squad of mundane humans, barring a few outliers and the Golden Mofo himself.

>>53874417
>omnipresent smug twitter

The horror.

>>53874393
Not yet I don't think. It shows that he's the real dirgeposter, since no one else is so far up their own ass as to peddle that shit, not even ironic shitposters would think to do so because that's getting into the deep lore of shitposting.

>>53874212
>About 80000 square feet, mostly empty but I moved a couch in, concrete flooring, came with electricity and running water.
Sounds like a solidly build lady!
How tall is 'she'? I normally assume the warehouse is pretty tall, like Warehouse 13 tall or wherever the Ark goes at the end of raiders of the lost ark tall.
I also assume the double size option changes the warehouse from 200 feet by 200 feet to 400 feet by 400 feet, because it doesn't double the floor space, it doubles the SIZE. Like how a box becoming twice as big has eight times the volume.

>>53873285
>And what exactly are you basing this on?
All of your previous interactions with this community. You are an egotistical, sociopathic manchild and have proven thus time and time again. It is incredibly unrealistic to believe you to be a better person than you have proven.

>>53874081
Settle on a design? She/He/It shows up differently between every jump. Most of the time is human(oid, plenty of elves, aliens, etc.) but not always. Only recurring form (5 times in around 100 jumps), is yuuko from xxxholic, and I think that one is just to troll me.

>>53874271
Babylon might have made the first scenario but I'd say that Cats is definitely the best known jumpmaker for scenarios.

>>53874438
Anon, you seem to be missing the point here. Are you going to say that if those settings were low powered, anyone would talk about them? No. Of course you aren't, because it'd be impossible. People don't talk about low powered jumps because they don't offer much. They talk about Worm and Nasu because they offer a lot, regardless of their power level.

>>53874081
The Dungeonmaster is a fat, chubby woman in jeans + a black t shirt with a D&D shirt on and brightly colored sneakers. She has curly brown hair.

You know she's the benefactor because she's literally immune to anything people throw at her and she can do whatever.

>>53874462
you know it's not called A comeback because you come back and say it,but I suppose I will give you the decency of refuting your central point, which is that I am not my jumper, my jumper has at least five mental health and be a better person perks as well as having the majority of The stuff my issues stem from Missing from his life,were I not able to convey this It's a failure of my writing, not of him.

>>53874503
There's plenty of potential for bullshit with Atelier's alchemy and and synthesis. Also, you somewhat seem to be missing the point as well. Blame, Final Fantasy, Discworld, and many others offer absurdly useful and powerful hax and items, yet are very rarely talked about. Hell, NnT is at least on par with Nasu, but is still rarely talked about.

>>53874462
also, you're forgetting that I'm the one Jumper stupid enough to give an entire nation power comparable to my own...

>>53874530
Unfortunately, a character is limited by their writer. I will not fault the creation for their creator's faults.

Of course, you must realize that at some point the true jumper would have heavily diverged from the jumper you are writing.

Oh well, I can't blame a guy for trying anyways.

>>53874613
Did you give them loads of your perks too? Because perks are like Exalted Charms, a single applicable one is an undeniable advantage.

>>53874381
Not that anon, but you really don't need more than a reference to the character the perk is inspired by and an explanation of what it does for a perk.

'this perk gives you X, just like this character has X.' Simple, nothing else is necessary.

>>53874594
At least for Dirge's jumps, they aren't talked about because there's no point in talking about them. They're not all that interesting, they don't have anything that changes the way jumpchain works, and all the jumps are associated with a shitposter. Not all of us have the time to go through every jump and IP.

If you convince the Yozi to open their Charmsets in jumps after Infernals, will you gain access to them as an Infernal?

>>53874381
Except in Arland's case the fluff is excessive and doesn't do anything for a person who isn't familiar with the IP. One sentence for fluff, one sentence for function, that's it.

Just strolling by to check real quick If anyone has claimed a Desolate Era Jump? I've decided to drop my current project the magicians because I don't feel I can do it Justice. If anyone wants they can use that leftover document.

>>53874718
What's Desolate Era?

>>53874752
Xianxia written by the same guy as Coiling Dragon.

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>>53874767
Speaking of Coiling Dragon how's it coming along?

>>53874632
>Unfortunately, a character is limited by their writer. I will not fault the creation for their creator's faults.

that's pretty much what you've been doing, though.

>Of course, you must realize that at some point the true jumper would have heavily diverged from the jumper you are writing.

Yes , and I am working on trying to bring that into alignment,Unfortunately the only way you get better at something is by doing it,So that's what I've been doing.

>Did you give them loads of your perks too? Because perks are like Exalted Charms, a single applicable one is an undeniable advantage.

I do my best to do so, unfortunately I haven't quite nailed Down the "how to make an exaltation problem" but considering my pimp cup gives absolute knowledge of the soul I'm going to roll for that next time I'm in creation. I do teach them sidereal martial arts and mortal hero style However,there pretty much early game jumpers with all they have, I and my companions are heavily unoptimized So we are only comparable to mid-game jumpers with a few notably exceptional abilities which put us in The edge of late game Tier.

>>53874718

Where is this leftover document?

>>53874831
He was taking a break by working on Kikis Delivery service I believe.

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>>53866181
Hey, StellarAnon, "Uplifting and Integration" in Ethics Technologies does not appear to have a price tag.

>>53871755
I'm not usually in charge of that sort of thing. Generally I tend to personally ignore it unless it's like actually a problem for me or something.

>>53871817
Ouran Highschool Host Club has "Make Them Swoon", which causes you to develop a squad of fangirls wherever you go.
Even more directly, Panty & Stocking has "Stalker Fans", which just gives you a mess of obsessive fans who follow you between jumps. They don't even take a slot.

>>53874081
Like a cross between Truth from Fullmetal Alchemist, and Palutena from Kid Icarus. Like, imagine her but an indistinct outline like Truth, without eyes or features, so all you can see is her mouth. Then invert the whole "Beyond The Door" look so that everything is black, she's black outline against a black void without stars.
That's what I see between every jump.

Jump choices appear on floating holograms.

>>53874831
I don't particularly know. My version of the Jump has gone through significant changes and all to grammar and wording as well as some new drawbacks.

Hercules is the one making the second Jump

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>>53870270
YUK IT UP NOW WE'LL SHIV YOU SOON MATE

>>53874839
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qepM7jVq7JzPk-gTLmtrPkN7eHXZkGgfNPLwalZmW2Q/edit?usp=drivesdk

You can just make a copy and do whatever you want.

>>53874665
Yes. Although I think Mardukth impolied that it'll take quite a bit of work to get there, and you can't assume other Infernals will unlock charms trees incidentally.
Or maybe that's my headwank. Not sure.

>>53874718
No-one's claimed it.
Wow, I've never expected anyone to make a jump of it. Thanks, Brahmastra. Desolate Era's one of my favourite xianxia.
Are you going to do it as one jump?
Oh, and will you be able to be a Heartforce Cultivator?

>>53874831
Smashing my head against an item section and working through Kiki's Delivery Service to keep myself from going mad.

>>53874594
Like? You can't make such bold claims and provide no evidence to support it. Those jumps might offer a lot, but I have no idea about any of it. I know everything about Worm even without having ever gone on the wiki or read the source material.

The reason you don't get people talking about the ultra high power levels of DB is because that's obvious and easy, everyone has access to that if they just take the jump, there's no point in discussing it, plus it's pretty much all raw biggatons.

In comparison, there's so many options in the Worm and Nasu and the Exalted jumps that pretty much everyone is coming out with a boatload of stuff and fairly different from each other, a lot of it's utility, and despite it basically being handed to you on a silver platter, it gives people the opportunity to feel like they've figured out some way to achieve power beyond the scope of the setting through some OCP exploit.

Also, most jumpers don't bother with high level settings that give those high power levels outright because they make every jump afterwards pointless in being so powerful, have an innate measure of danger from being in a setting with such high power levels, or are just waiting for their jump to reach that level of scale on it's own before they go there.

Mid Power level jumps are far more relevant to everyone's chains than high level ones will ever be, and have jumps which offer a lot of variety and customization as well as unique powers which are fairly potent.

How does this look?

24 Twin Rocket CarX30 -50
these are nothing more than a modified heavy truck carrying 24 twin rocket launchers. It's not enough to do any kind of significant damage to a Kaiju that isn't actually flammable, but it will sting them enough to draw their attention and start the moving towards it, which is highly useful if you have evacuated an area and need to buy time for the rest of the city

>>53874906
Oh, I love this setting so damned much.
I'm getting *hype'd*

The only thing that would make me happier is if someone made I Shall the Seal the Heavens in to a jump. ~hint, hint~

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>>53874718
Desolate Era jump? Yes please, by all means. Time to hit people with my big sword like the MC,

>>53874944
>I Shall the Seal the Heavens
Isn't that nearly done being translated on Wuxiaworld?

>>53874906
As I've learned through attempting Stellar Transformations and how much detail went into CD I'm gonna reread the entire thing while making the jump to give it the needed detail and quality. It might also be split into two jumps because DE be crazy yo!
>>53874914
Need help? Me or Legion could offer some other stuff like the Metallic Beings that got left out of mine.
>>53874944
Holy fuck I tried that one time and gave it up due to the sheer impossibility to explain everything in a Jump Document, as well as lack of good locations since there is barely any detail in the starting world.
>>53874965
One with the World Perk incoming.

>>53874944
I am pretty sure anyone who makes a ISSTH jump will constantly bashed by any fans here considering it is held to a high standard. So it would have to be just perfect, that or the fluff would have to find a way to hit us in our autism just right.

>>53874986
>Need help? Me or Legion could offer some other stuff like the Metallic Beings that got left out of mine.
The problem isn't with higher tier stuff like that. It's filling in the lower tier tiers while still keeping them useful. I'd still appreciate any help.

>>53874971
Yep, only a few chapters left.

>>53874965
>big sword like the MC
You know, of all the things to take from the series, I've never taken that from it.

>>53874986
>attempting Stellar Transformations
You wouldn't happen to have a WIP of that would you? Just out of curiousity.
>Holy fuck I tried that one time
Same question. Please?

>>53874998
I don't see that necessarily happening, anon. I certainly hope not at least.

I'm reading the Symbiont jump and there doesn't seem to be a AI import option anymore,Was this intentional?

>>53874986
Have you actually started DE? Is there a WIP?

>>53874129
Somewhere in the archives, let me check.

Here's one. >>53691455

>>53874998
That too. It's probably one of the best Xianxia, and it's MC reflects it. Every single capstone would probably just be Meng Hao in some way.
>>53875022
Oh that's even easier, there's Magicite cards that could store any currency a Jumer picks up or something like that, Magicite cannons which would still be pretty useful to any Saint trying to Empire build, and then there's stuff like the fate magic chamber the priests tried to use on Linley.
>>53875055
Deleted them both out of shame sadly.

>>53875056
It looks like it was just rolled into the general import option, because the general price was slashed lower than even the AI option was originally.

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Are vampire Inquisitors Heresy?

>>53875093
>It's probably one of the best Xianxia, and it's MC reflects it.
Agreed. Absolute number 1 in my book. Desolate Era, Martial God Asura and Martial World right behind. Along with Coiling Dragon and Steller Transformations.

>Deleted them both out of shame sadly.
Oh, well. thanks anyway.

>>53875110
I don't know, but my gut says maybe.

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Okay, I want to announce that I have posted the final version of my jump for A Super Mario Thing on the drive. I've also included a copy here as an attachment, so if there's anything last minute that you have a problem with, please let me know and I'll try to quickly swap in an edited version to the drive.

>>53875137
MGA kinda sucked in the beginning until he left the island/continent entirely. After that it got real good.

>>53875101
That would only let me import an AI companion as the Symbiont of another companion,I'm looking to import a companion as my symbiont.

>>53875179
Oh yeah, but I could never get into it due to the whole rape thing that seemed to happen every arc.

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>>53875185
You're looking at one of the glitched WIP versions, then. This should be the current one.

>Alternatively, for 50 CP, you can import an existing Companion as your own Symbiote. Normally, Symbiotes have the exact same gender identity and orientation as their host, but this isn’t a problem for you; you could import a sentient house as your Symbiote without a problem, if you have one as a Companion.

>>53875179
Agrred. It was a bit of a slow starter.

>>53875209
Hate to sound like I'm defending such a thing but there were extenuating circumstances, and it only happens once in the book. I'm pretty sure the author learnt his lesson.
The Mc has become if anything the sort of guy who'd never do that sort of thing.

>every arc.
Am I misremembering?

>>53875209
I do not remember that, then again it has been a while since I read it.

>>53875225
Thanks Anon.

>>53875263
You're quite welcome, Anon.

>>53875244
He raped that one girl by accident, then that one sect lady in the woods Because she attacked him, then some guys wife and daughter.

>>53875357
>then some guys wife and daughter
Jesus what a piece of shit 'protagonist'.

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>>53871817
A Hero Musn't Spurn A Lady's Wishes + Famous Knight

(I'm working on the grammatical errors of this and when I'm finished correcting them I'm putting it on the drive, it's basically finished)

>>53875154
Looks good to me, Quack!

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>>53875209
>>53875244
>>53875357
This is what's considered heroic in China.

>>53875475
Thanks!

>>53875357
...
How do you rape someone by accident?
"Oh no, I tripped and fell and now my dick is inside you and I spilled the glue!"

>>53875506
A long time ago our chinafag explained this meme already.

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Restarted Chain - Jump #30 - Worm

Location (Rolled, Free Choice): Toronto, Canada
Origin: Drop-In (Free)

Drawbacks: Case-53 and You Needed Worth Opponents (+400)

Perks:
+ Outside Context Problems (Free)
+ Munchkin (50, 1350)
+ Well-Adjusted (50, 1300)
+ Spanner in the Works (300, 1000)
+ We Stand Together (600, 400)
+ Tooth and Nail (100, 300)

Parahuman: Master (Boogie Manimal) [Rolled]

Companions:
+ Full Line Up (300, 0) [All have Drop-In, Worm, OCP, and Rolled for Powers]

= Raven - Brute (Alexandria Package), You Are Not Alone

= Marceline - Shaker (Gravity Manipulation), What I Fight For, No Such Thing as Collateral, Little Black Book, Funds

= Lapis - Changer (Assimilation), Powered Armor System w/Mover (Teleportation) System

= Vasuki - Trump (Complete Arsenal), Munchkin, Grit Your Teeth, Blending In

= Ormr - Breaker (Soft Physics), Meh, I Can Take You

= Ladon - Stranger (Sensorium), Public Relations

= Fafnir - Trump (Contractor), Munchkin, Blending In, Leave Me Alone

Story:
Not all that long, and I skipped a bunch of things because I didn't know the story very well, but here you go.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mm7BXKNdqS5htPSOqARG0917IQPw8fbG6fec0-vA73U/edit?usp=sharing

>>53875458
>Xianxia
>Expecting a heroic protagonist
>Expecting a vaguely moral protagonist
Kek.

Do you have any enemies who would rather make your life miserable than kill you, /jc/?

>>53875357
>raped that one girl by accident,
How?
How do you 'accidentally' fuck someone against their will?
>>53875506
Didn't the Romans IRL have a rape fetish against pagans and shit?
It's not exactly uncommon, despite how fucked up it is.

>>53875458
Not all Protagonists are good people. They are just the leading character, not the one in the right.

>>53875647
The Romans were around 2000 years ago, anon.

>>53875458
Most Xianxia novels have villain protagonists, not always because the author intended it.

>>53875578
What did they say about it?

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Jump # 153 Star Wars Original Trilogy
Timeline: Legends
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Race: Human
Background: Drop In (0) + Force Sensitive (200)
Starting Location: Cornet City, Cornella
Perks
*Can’t we convince you to stay (100, Discount)
*I’ve got a bad feeling about this (200, Discount)
*Who made you a General (300, Discount)
Companions
*Import (400)
Drawbacks:
*Super HD Remaster (+200)

Usually when I get to a new world I immediately try and figure out what new problem I have to solve. Here though I already had a brewing problem I had to deal with. Van Hellsing dropped a bombshell on me shortly after our arrival. He and the gemini elves intended to find a nice world and settle down.

If it had been he was tired I would have been sad but accepted it. However it was because of what I had pulled in that last gundam world. So I was devastated.

He had been sort of a father figure to me in my first jump and really the reason I survived my first few jumps.

I begged him not to leave. He offered to consider it. Together we headed for Alderaan as fast as we could.

We had a planet to save.

We worked to find and bring down the deathstar. It was difficult locating where it was kept. We managed to sneak on board. It was still under construction so we stole the blue prints and figured out how to overload all the generators turning it in to scrap.

That was the start of my war against the empire.

After that I became the empires most wanted; Somehow word got around I had destroyed the empires super weapon so I became a hero of the rebellion. I continued my fight against the empire with rebel support.

During this time I guess since I wasn’t casually mind controlling people and was going to great length not to kill people Van Hellsing decided to hold off on retirement a bit.

The empire eventually fell due to Luke Skywalkers. While I helped out in the final battles Luck fulfilled his destiny as did his father.

>>53875666
I second Satan's question, I would also like to know.

>>53875553
He got drugged by her dad to force him to end his relationship with his younger daughter and basically just cause a bunch of drama. She basically ends up liking it and he fucks them both anyway.

>>53874926
>Worm and Nasu and the Exalted
Not him, but those things are pretty fucking popular outside of this thread as well, even across the internet. That could also have something to do with it besides just powerlevels, you know. Like, seriously the sheer amount of Worm fanfiction and Nasu discussions across the net is astounding.

>>53875357
>then that one sect lady in the woods Because she attacked him, then some guys wife and daughter.
I have no memory of these. Are you sure?
The only incidents of that sort I can think of are the other one youe mentioned and maybe one other that doesn't fit these descriptions.

>>53875751
That, i do remember. I would say that was more the king's fault than either Chu Feng or the girl.

>>53875651
>>53875666
There are some nasty protags out there, yes, but there are a lot less than what is being presented here.
I can think of more protags that unambiguously are nice guys than those who are actually villanous.

>>53874184
We do NOT need a Pokémon clicker/xianxia.

>>53875666
something something Chinese society something something not Western morals. I'm pretty sure he posted it under his trip.

>>53875818
It was during that little hunt thing where this girl was a demon practicioner and wanted to trick Chu Feng into sleeping with her friend. Deciding fuck that shit, he fucks her instead and then it activated her demon cultivation which required her virginity and ended up saving her life or some bullshit.

Later on when he leaves the continent this guy attempts to attack Purple bell or something and try to cripple her cultivation. Thinking that it was already gone he rapes the dudes wife and daughter in revenge.

>>53875887
What's his trip? I may go through the archives to find it. I'm genuinely interested in his statement.

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>>53875853
It's the jump that jumpchain deserves, but not the one that it needs right now. So we'll hunt BLADE, because he can take it. Because he's not our jumpmaker. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark jumpmaker.

>>53875928
Anon, are you so new that you don't know Dirge is the chinafag of jumpchain.

>>53875906
Okay I see, the first example was one I was thinking of, we were just looking at it from different angles.
But the second... I have no memory of him doing anything like that. It's something I would have thought would stick in my memory, I mean I remember the other two fine, but this...
Oh, shit. I just remembered. It was in an underground chamber where there was a treasure, a weapon I think. There was this big fight going on outside. Right. Now I remember.
But, given what the fiancee of his enemy tried to do to Chu Feng have him eaten to death by terrible insects, I'd be tempted to give him a bye on that, the sister though, she wasn't very nice but I don't remember her doing anything to deserve that.