Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1564: Real Eater Edition

Could Real Eater turn Jumpchain into a good thread?

>>53861015
Well, it can't change powersources and the source of Jumpchain is us. So, no.

What are some neat ideas for uses of Real Eater that you've come up with?

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>>53861015

I'm still salty about not being able to have All Fiction in Medaka Box

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>>53860998
This is at least the fourth time we've had a Real Eater edition. I demand you use Real Eater and change the title to something more interesting.

>>53856912
>>53856990
Dude, the canon mechs are dogshit. Do you know anything about Chucklefuck development?

>>53861088
BUT REAL EATER'S THE ONLY PERK YOU NEED, ANON.

>>53861151
THEN USE REAL EATER ON REAL EATER.

>>53861201
Would that create Fake Eater or Real Drinker?

>>53861067
Using it on Enhanced Learning from Worm so that it instead becomes Enhanced Teaching.

Is there even a single jumper who could defeat the Weird Man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tcygOGHsWY

>>53861283
How could anyone beat him? He brought a ham!

>>53861067
Adventure Monarch, Elemental Monarch, change the Element to something different than the default ones. Be the Meat King!

>>53861351
I don't think that works like that?

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Alright, I said I'd be back to post the rewritten Symbiote Jump, and the updated Terraria Jump.

Up first, the Terraria mod update:
>Add: Thorium Seeding
>>Effectively adds the Thorium mod to your Jump.
>Add: More Major Modifications
>>Lets you add a selection of other mods to your Jump.
>Add: Notes section explanations and links to the resources for these mods, as sparse as they may be.

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Well it's that time again; I am looking for some more suggestions to add to my list of jumps to roll for. Here is a list of jumps I have already taken https://pastebin.com/u26SLK0X
Thanks in advance.

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8. Free Choice

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Symbiote Jump Rewrite:
>Change: Rewrote the backgrounds and their perks
>>They're not Human and the Symbiote types anymore, so it's no longer a , "one background," Jump
>Change: Added a section for Symbiote abilities as perks
>>They allow you to do everything that the prior perks for the backgrounds in the previous background allowed for
>Change: Moved Bio-Injector to the Companions section
>>It allows anyone you turn into a Symbiote, and that reaches synergy with their host before you have to leave, the choice of becoming a Companion
>Add: Human, Gray-Matter Transfer, and Imprisoned as Drawbacks
>>These are a slightly better fit as drawbacks, since they gimp one or more of your abilities and limit what you're able to do and take from the Jump itself

>>53861439
>https://pastebin.com/u26SLK0X
Kill La Kill

>>53861439
Terraria and Symbiote just updated. May as well, Rave.

>>53861439
Star Wars OT, or KotOR.

>>53860701
>100 CP Backgrounds for all but Drop Ins
You still get a ton of free shit, 100cp isn't going to ruin your build.

>Droid Bonus history has you as an actual droid; no option for Vader style living person with a machine body.
1.) I like having a droid option. 2.) I've said multiple times that you retain your force powers from previous jumps if you pick droid and that you don't need to be a jedi three times to maximize your potential.

>Boba Fett's Arm blaster thing not actually discounted for Bounty Hunters.
Because I've already balanced the discounts and given bounty hunter's a free weapon.

>Cargo holds still don't have the bay door or elevator they would need as real life ship and not a movie prop
Since when has star wars ever cared about realism? Also I'm going off existing examples and and few ships had one. Plus, as I've said before, not everyone is gonna be hauling a bunch of cargo.

>Still trying to charge for Intercoms on ANY ship in a high tech space opera.
Because you obviously just can't yell or use a phone or telepathy.

It's fine as it is. I'm gonna leave it be.

>>53861439
Magical Pokemon Journey. It's in the Uploads folder right now, I think.

>>53861456
>>53861460
>>53861475

K added to the list thank you

>>53861221
>Fake Eater
What would that even do? Change powers you don't have?

>>53861450
>increasing the efficiency of all of your body's physical functions. Alternatively, you
Cuts off.

>>53861512
alright added to the list. Thank you.

Question to Val: Can Ymgarl Adaptability potentially include mutations that enhance your psyker powers? If so what sort of things could a honorary zoanthrope develop?

>>53861554
Mother fucking fuck. It's supposed to read, "Alternatively, you can augment your skeleton with inorganic components like metal, without your body rejecting them, or integrate mechanical parts into your body, such as fabricating a coil gun made from a high-end defibrillator station and mounting it in place of your forearm. Y'know, whichever floats your proverbial boat."

Shit. Gimme a minute.

>>53861450
Why does eventually becoming god make you have to stay if it takes like a decade to pull off?

>>53861450
Been meaning to ask but for Berzerker OS if we choose to split our Symbiote into a companion would we be able to still use it or other Symbiote abilities on our own?

>>53861506
Do shields scale with ship size? The shields that can take one blast from a turbo laser is nice on a light freighter but on a corvette it would be rather pitiful.

>>53861587
Sort of? I could see it mutating your brain to better handle the strain when you're channeling a particularly large amount, which would probably let you do more and withstand more, but it's not going to directly evolve psychic powers specifically. Well, I guess this example already improves them all around.

>>53861624
Kinda. Corvettes are definitely more durable than the other ships but a star destroyer could still easily take one out.

>>53861634
Cool, thanks. Hah, I immediately thought of those ayys from Mars Attacks!

>>53861634
Would Bigger is Better from Tomb Kings assist you in combining energy types using Boosted Tandem Style, or does it only apply to large structures?

>>53861634
Hey Val, it was asked a couple threads ago, but would the Antichrist be accepted as a Servant? What do you think of >>53828748 >>53828894 as an NP? Kosher or no?

>>53861634
>rising and falling as the other does so
Would they fall beyond a base? Like, if you lose your body, will you be rendered psychically impotent? If you lend away your psychic powers or get caught by a Blank, would you be unable to so much as stand?

>>53861714
>beyond
*below

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>>53861595
Because you become a nascent reality warper with an effective range of, "I'm kinda, like, half-way to Mars right now." Kinda outstrips the power cap on most Jumps.

>>53861600
You both keep the abilities you gain as a Symbiote, yes. In addition, like it says after the endings, they gain learned skills(like magic) and purely genetic traits(such as being a Conduit) that you have, as though they'd been in you from before you started your Jump.

>>53861450
The symbiotes granted by default to the jumper/companions still have the Berzerker Protocol in them, right? You need to handle it one way or another unless yours comes from the Bio-Injector?

>>53861439
How about A Super Mario Thing? Might have to go a thread or two back to get the pdf, but it should be right about done.

>>53861397
>Notes:
>Island/World Size:
>Unless you take the Drawback, "Downgrade to the Original Form," the world the world is a fully three-dimensional, mostly circular continent;

in the drawbacks section this one is named "The Original: A Downgrade".

>with the Drawback, it instead has a radius based on its size, measured in

in the drawbacks section this is a different one named "Where's The Rest?"

>>53861728
>You both keep the abilities you gain as a Symbiote

Thank you, it was constantly bothering me whether or not I would keep it. Like the rewrite so far.

>>53861735
That they do. Its why I gave Berzerker OS a discount for baseline synergized pairs.

>>53861728
Assuming it does "outstrip the power cap on most jumps", do you have time to reverse it before your chain ends?

>>53861728
So just interjump balance? Cause most jumps don't offer technology near as bullshit, with or without the cap.

>>53861761
I figured, but wanted to make sure. Looking good.

>>53861753
Sure I'll add it to the list, thanks

>>53861688
Mmm,, don't think it'd work on that. I think it could extend to stuff like maybe creating spells but it'd still need to be creating something, not combining two things through another perk.

>>53861698
As far as I'm aware, the Antichrist is someone that is meant to exist in the future or at least the actual present, not far enough back to count as a potential Servant. I wouldn't think of him as valid if that's true.

As to the NP, depends on what else it can do. The stated effects seem okay for an EX rank but it mentions being able to do more then the example given in the first post, so I'd want confirmation that everything it can do is described in the two posts before okaying it.

>>53861714
Mm, not sure. Probably won't fall below a base level of physical and mental functionality but they will fall to an extent if one does.

>>53861728
Well, whether or not I agree or disagree, it's fine as long as you say it's allowed to happen outside the jump if you find a way how. Other jumps aren't a good reason to add fiat caps to things in any case, people never shut up about that kind of thing and get mad at it just for it being there, whether or not they care about the substance of the ruling.

>>53861756
These are problems from the original that I missed. I'm getting more and more convinced that my brain just plain does not work.

>>53861767
It's not a thing that can be reversed. You and your Symbiote become permanently fused together into a single mind, which is not really a thing you can hit, "undo," on.

>>53861774
Really? Kantai Collection's, "Savage Salvage," along with either Prototype or, "Kinesis," from Marvel(taking it as autokinesis, modified for strength and speed with other perks) gives you basically exactly the same thing, with the limitation of what technology you can find or make.

>>53861788
Hmm... What about something like Conjoined Conjures?

It's a bit grayer than TS, as you're still using your understanding of two systems to "create" something from two components. It's certainly more of a "project" than "enlightenment" or something that just happens.

>>53861841
That's just the same thing with a different cover.

>>53861839
Ah, k.

>>53861450
I don't see a symbiote companion option, much less an import, even though it's mentioned other places in the document.

>>53861839
>You and your Symbiote become permanently fused together
Ah. K, senpai.

>>53861728
Actual Backgrounds in addition to the normal Symbiote abilities was a great idea. Now I might have to be really choosy about the stuff I buy.

But yeah, that's a good question, can the Symbiote fusion happen outside of the jump? I'm already happy with what you do get, but clarification is nice.

>>53861839
So getting a Symbiote is basically a trap option, and doing something that a jumper with a few intelligence perks could do while drunk and sleeping, will end your chain.

Why not just limit it Post-Spark like normal jumps?

>>53861866
I suppose? Kind of? Thanks, anyway.

>>53861728
There are still references to importing a companion as your own symbiote, but it looks like that section of Jolly Cooperation got lost in the shuffle, leaving only the mechanics of importing two companions into a pair. I assume imports to your own symbiote still don't get the 600cp (because they're already using yours), so you probably should add that bit back in.

>>53861391
One of the examples given in Real Eater is changing a skill's output from 'fire' to 'ice', so it should work. The catch with RE is that you can't make a skill run off a different power source (e.g. you can't abuse an infinite stamina perk by RE'ing all your perks to run off stamina instead of mana/ki/whatever).

>>53861728
Fampai, Berserker OS is still discounted fort synergized pair.

>>53861907
>trap option
It's only a 'trap' if you're a dumbass.

>>53860105
Yeah, it's like a semi-endgame ship, it doesn't have any of the Hyperdrive stuff that summons the Unbidden, but it does have particle Lances and stuff
>>53859546
On the matter of Gaia worlds I do see that it's a pretty good advantage, without it there would be many spots you can't really inhabit or utilize but with it you can.

On the matter of Government Ethics. They're not perks, they're how your government runs. It's basically a free form allowance to mold the facets of your government how you wish, there aren't "advantages" outside of the ethics perks and Techs.

On the AI assistant I guess I will change that, you're right that that shouldn't be the wording.

On the personal squad, I knew I forgot to change something. Though if enough people don't find a problem with it it will stay

Finally, the victory conditions will have to stay. They're the only way to win the Stellaris Game, they're like Civilizations Domination Victories.

>>53861973
So basically, it's a trap for him.

>>53861973
The shitposter is the biggest dumbass in the thread.

>>53861788
>As far as I'm aware, the Antichrist is someone that is meant to exist in the future or at least the actual present, not far enough back to count as a potential Servant. I wouldn't think of him as valid if that's true.
The wank that I was going off of was that the Antichrist Servant is based on the idea of, and common belief in the Antichrist throughout history, culminated in someone who was strongly believed to have been him in the past being overrided by the much stronger legend of the Antichrist when they were being summoned.

As for what the NP can do, besides what was in those posts, it could also make things it hits do things 'in the future'. The way it works is that it hits something, and then that thing will eventually make an out of character decision that they would not have otherwise, or 'taking a different path' then the one it would normally.

>>53861973
Don't mind him he is one of those paranoid jumpers talked about at the bottom of the jump.

>>53861391
>I don't think that works like that?
Literally what it does anon.

>>53861983
Really, he's doing the multiverse a favor.

>>53861839
Not really. Kantai Collection doesn't even have nanotechnology, let alone femptotech. Savage Salvage doesn't let you get anywhere close to Symbiote tech without going to other clarketech heavy jumps. Same with Prototype. And Marvel, in terms of powerlevels and tech is ludicrously better than most settings.

>>53861961
Yeah, but in Elemental Monarchs case, you'd be stuck with the Element you chose originally because you can't change the source of a power, only the output, and the source of your elemental power is being a monarch of that element. You can't change your element then.

>>53861982
>Yeah, it's like a semi-endgame ship, it doesn't have any of the Hyperdrive stuff that summons the Unbidden, but it does have particle Lances and stuff
Thanks! What about the import?

>>53861728
Is there a way you can put in that thing which shrank our organs while increasing efficiency like the last version, or the skeleton/muscle nanotube stuff?

>>53861973
So, what, do you permanently have this arbitrary warning sequestered in your memory, or will you receive it when you get too close to "fusing"? Or do you receive it once, and it's a trap to anyone who hasn't taken perfect memory perks or takes an amnesia drawback? Or anyone who takes one of those "rival" drawbacks now has an enemy who's a powerful reality warper that they can never hope to defeat?

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>>53861880
>>53861949
You know, you remember this stuff right up until you start writing it. I'll be back.

>>53861905
You can, yes, though space is always a concern. It's the size of a skyscraper, which means it has the volume of a skyscraper. That's not going to fit in your Warehouse.

>>53861907
>trap option
I do not have a facepalm reaction image that expresses the intensity I require of one right now. You lack reading comprehension.

The ability to incorporate tech is covered by Savage Salvage and Prototype or Kinesis. Unless you have tech that allows you to make an AI using an image of your own consciousness and then fuse with it, you're not getting close to that.

>>53862025
Enhanced Body under the Symbiote Perks.


Fixed the notes on Terraria's world altering drawbacks.

>>53862029
Yes. Now fuck off, no one cares.

>>53861982

Here are some ideas if you don't mind

>On the AI assistant I guess I will change that, you're right that that shouldn't be the wording.

If it's a companion like entity that doesn't take up a companion slot and can't import it's called a follower

>On the personal squad, I knew I forgot to change something. Though if enough people don't find a problem with it it will stay

I think you should get rid of the "Share all perks at 100%" if imported and then having them take up all of the companion slots isn't very good either. Just change them to standard followers or move them to the companion section


Also race import option when anon?

>>53862046
I just read the first chapter of Symbiote, and I have to say, I'm liking it.

>>53861397
Can you give a brief summary of what each mod is about?

>>53862046
>You lack reading comprehension.
How so? It's a fairly limited power-level which you can't return from that immediately ends your chain that can be easily accomplished by any jumper worth their salt, by accident. It's basically a permanent drawback for no points.

>>53862068
Right at the bottom of the doc at the drawbacks there's the "Civilization from Jumps past" option. Thanks for the recommendation on the AI and soldiers.

I think I'll just remove the 100% thing and have them share it all equally.
>>53862019
See above

>>53862029
>>53862100
Fusing with your Symbiote is a conscious choice, and one that takes an absolute shit-ton of biomass to make the structures necessary to; it doesn't come from nowhere. You have to take it in, and even then there's space and heat concerns to worry about; it's the size of a damn skyscraper, and the only two places that they figured could house one is one of the poles, or space.

One hermits himself up in Antarctica, the other buggers off to terraform Mars.


Actually fixed the drop-off under Enhanced Body - there was some fuckery going on with my exporter program that wasn't updating the existing files when saving over them; had to delete them and export again - and added the clause that lets you import a Companion as your own Symbiote.

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>>53862180
AND I FORGOT TO ATTACH IT, FUCK MY NON-FUNCTIONAL BRAIN!

>>53862200
>FUCK MY NON-FUNCTIONAL BRAIN!
Kinky.

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>>53861753
>Mario
Seeing as people seem to find the jump about ready to start making builds for, here's what I'm really hoping is the last version of A Super Mario Thing. Please let me know if this works; if everything is a go, I can upload it to the drive.

>>53862200
Your symbiote could probably arrange for that.

Whether they would or /should/ is another matter entirely.

>>53862046
To be honest, while calling it a trap is stupid, having it end your chain if you do it is a load of garbage. If you're going to go that far, then just hardcap it; ending someones chain for trying it and making it an irreversible process is just dickish and stupid.

That said you should probably just say that it's allowed since your only justification in the first place was interjump balance, it isn't even particularly high level for the extreme of measures taken to prevent it happening, and you just shouldn't make rulings that thing which aren't dying would end your chain.

>>53862200
>FUCK MY NON-FUNCTIONAL BRAIN!

I think you need a Symbiote to help you.

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Need some ideas for drawbacks.

>>53861986
That would be too far for the NP then. It's already got power reduction and the ability to change things with pretty few limits, it also being able to set in commands for the future is just one extra ability too far. I'd be okay with using the existing abilities to simulate that, like changing someone at the time so that they're going to make that decision later on, since that's a lot less utility then being able to time delay these changes/transformations the NP can give.

Anyway, as to that idea, I'm still going to side with no, mostly because of two things. One, you don't have a named figure for the one strongly believed to be the antichrist and two, the legend of the antichrist is still something that would be in the future or present, rather then the past.

>>53861506
>Because I've already balanced the discounts and given bounty hunter's a free weapon.
A free weapon choice of 100 CP weapons, which the bounty hunters iconic arm blaster isn't. If you want to use that excuse, drop its price so it is a valid choice as the bounty hunters free weapon

>Since when has star wars ever cared about realism? Also I'm going off existing examples and and few ships had one. Plus, as I've said before, not everyone is gonna be hauling a bunch of cargo.
And the ones who don't haul cargo don't have cargo holds. You are placing big empty spaces in ships without a way practical way to get things in or out of them. It's like saying front doors don't need to be standard in houses because it is possible to go in and out the window. This is not Star Wars looking stupid, this is YOU looking stupid

Frankly, cargo doors and elevators (and intercoms) should never have been something you listed or charged for at all. It is a level if detail below the type of ships systems the rest of the supplement deals with. Like how many door and rooms there are in the ship. Incidental stuff and fluff details that could have chosen at whim by the jumper when the ship was described. Until you listed it and slapped a CP cost on it

>Because you obviously just can't yell or use a phone or telepathy
using a internal phone system would basically be an intercom system, Einstein. Intercom is short for Internal Communications System. And they are necessary on ships so the person driving the ship can communicate with the rest of the ship without leaving his station. Do non expect voice to carry to every level or room on the millennium falcon, for example. The living room in my house is next door to the kitchen with an opening between the two, and half the time it seems someone talking in one won't be heard in the others because of how the sound travels, and incidental things like noise from televisions, microwaves, ice-makers, & whatnot. Dramatic ship noises are louder

>>53862180
>one that takes an absolute shit-ton of biomass to make the structures necessary to; it doesn't come from nowhere
In-setting. All it takes is one lapse in attention, and you take a perk that makes it happen automatically. And then, suddenly, your chain is ended. No save, go home, even though you're already far beyond the infinitesimal powerlevels of Symbiote. At the very least, it forces everyone's Benefactor to act extremely asinine and arbitrarily. Maybe if it said, "If you're not already beyond Bob and Ayya, then fusing with your Symbiote will end your Chain." But otherwise it makes no sense.

>>53862180
He is shitposting. Please ignore him.

>>53862200
>Berzerker OS [600CP; Discount: Synergized Pair (not Human, Imprisoned, or Gray-Matter Transfer)]

>>53862217
>>53862230
>>53862245
I was laughing at my own incompetence as I posted that, and now I'm laughing even harder at how far you're taking it.

This is why I come to /jcg/. This right here. The feeling of accomplishment, and the fact that some of you are fucking hilarious to be around.

>>53862327
Yes, and?

Seriously, it looks like you forgot to finish writing this post.

>>53862017
Hmm. On the other hand, it is Adventure Time lore that the Elementals' ability to manipulate their respective element depends on how much magic there is in the world, which indicates that their power source is magic. And the perk in the jump uses the picture of the Ice King (the 'Monarch' in 'Elemental Monarch'), who is not an Elemental and whose power over the element of ice is actually granted by a corrupted wish-granting magic crown (it's supposed to grant your deepest wish, but its first wearer's deepest wish was actually to be just like their senpai, the Ice Elemental wizard).

So anyway tldr it's magic that's doing the heavy lifting.

>>53862200
Can you actually justify the limit beyond "it's too OP for other jumps" ?

>>53862259
>One, you don't have a named figure for the one strongly believed to be the antichrist
If you are going with the interpretation of the Antichrist as charismatic demagogue, most people would call actual Hitler a good fit.

>>53862346
My point is there's no options to decide where to be a Synergized Pair in this version, or Imprisoned, or Gray Matter. All the other Symbiote perks are based off of background, but there's no Symbiote backgrounds.

>>53862375
Drawbacks my friend, drawbacks.

>>53862046
Might want to turn off text justification for the "List of existing information from mod creators" paragraph.

>>53861982
>On the matter of Gaia worlds I do see that it's a pretty good advantage, without it there would be many spots you can't really inhabit or utilize but with it you can.
How much is getting use out of 100% of a single world really worth to a galactic scale empire? Or is the idea you only start off with one planet, because then I can see it being worth buying.

>On the matter of Government Ethics. They're not perks, they're how your government runs. It's basically a free form allowance to mold the facets of your government how you wish, there aren't "advantages" outside of the ethics perks and Techs.
You list advantages for the other ethics. Materialists are better at science and luxury, Xenophiles have better relations with aliens, etc.

>Finally, the victory conditions will have to stay. They're the only way to win the Stellaris Game, they're like Civilizations Domination Victories.
Video game jumps do not normally force you to win the game. Even Civilization only has its victory conditions being optional ways to end the jump early.

>>53862375
I'm pretty sure that's what the "(not Human, Imprisoned, or Gray-Matter Transfer)" thing is for.
I think it means that so long as you don't take any of those drawbacks, you count as a Synergized Pair.

>>53862371
Sure but that's not something he's known for. He's not widely considered to have been the antichrist AND he'd be past the cut off date anyway so even if he were known for it, it'd circle around to still having two issues.

>>53862397
Wait. So you're a Synergized Pair by default?

>>53862259
>One, you don't have a named figure for the one strongly believed to be the antichrist and two, the legend of the antichrist is still something that would be in the future or present, rather then the past.
Not really. I could give a name if you want, there have been several Popes called Antichrist during major times of strife in the church, like during the Great Schism where three separate Popes claimed the position and called each other the Antichrist. The point was that the original servant was so heavily associated with the Antichrist that it overrided everything else about them

>>53862200
In the Civilian perk Picking It Up it says
>even to people that would normally be willing to swallow the line, hook, line, and sinker.
which seems a bit weirdly worded.

>>53862426
You got it.

>>53862439
Well shit. brb, off to fucking kill myself for lack of reading comprehension.

>>53862442
Don't feel too bad I tripped up myself when I first read it and was gonna ask about it till I thought about it some more.

>>53862358
Precedent. Forgotten Realms doesn't allow you to become a deity, and if you enter it as a deity, you need to figure out a way to abdicate your deific power before the end of the jump, or you get stuck there.

It makes you a nascent reality warper that's referred to in-canon as a god, and as mentioned, you can't undo the fusion once you've completed it, so there's no way of abdicating that power.

>>53862375
>Human is a Drawback
>The implication is that you're part of a Symbiote pair
>There's only three kinds, and Imprisoned and Gray-Matter Transfer are also Drawbacks
>That only leaves the one

>>53862434
A little bit, sure, but where I'm from a line is used to refer to, "a line of bullshit," or something someone said that's clear, to at least you, that it's a falsification.

Was the Marvel Magic jump ever finished?

>>53862454
yeah, understand the 'line of bullshit' thing, it just seems weird for some reason.

>>53862448
Seconded.
I did a search through the document for where to buy "Synergized Pair' before looking taking a look at the drawback section.

>>53862480
That, is actually what I did too.

>>53862410
>>53861982
In the game, a Gaia planet is good because your capital planet will normally house buildings that give percentile bonuses to empire-wide production. A Gaia world helps you maximize those bonuses. However I don't think you'll be that mechanic about it.

>>53861982
What about an option for planetary modifier mod?

>>53862259
>It's already got power reduction and the ability to change things with pretty few limits, it also being able to set in commands for the future is just one extra ability too far.
It can't actually control what happens or if anything happens at all to the people hit with it if that helps. It's more like a side effect of the NP than anything else, that things hit with it just sort of act in ways contrary to what they usually would. If that's too much, then I'll forget about it, since I had more thought out for the servant then one NP anyway.

>>53862454
Forgotten Realms is a terrible cookie cutter jump, and if you enter it as a deity that doesn't run on Divine Ranks (which is strictly a D&D thing) then you've got no problem.

And if you did get Divine Ranks then all you have to do to leave is shove them all into avatars, leave the jump, then take them back.

>>53862454
Fr deities are metaphysically connected to their settings. They're the anthropomorphic personifications of concepts in the D&D-verse, and in the Realms cannot exist without worshippers. That seems plenty justified. Also, godhood requires either specific magic or innate gifts to obtain. It's not something that's built-in to FR denizens. Also, it allows you to abdicate the power, which makes it more reasonable. Give you a whole ten years, in fact.

>you can't undo the fusion
In-setting. Saying that is can't be done with perks is just asinine.

>>53862200
Any chance of the old Human tree's early-bird implant suite/genemodding regime making it in? Maybe in blueprint form, or as an upgrade to the weapon cache?

>>53862433
Well, yes really. Even ignoring the basic issue of the overriding legend not being valid, you yourself admit you need someone heavily associated with the antichrist as a base. Yet all those popes you just cited don't seem heavily associated to me. The fact that there were several each calling each other that sounds like it's vague and unclear to me.

Regardless of either of our thoughts on what the original being was, the problem here is that the main part of the Servant isn't one that makes sense, since they'd either be present and alive or in the future or nothing at all like the legend portrays them, any of which would bar them from becoming a Servant.

>>53862512
Is this referring to the ability to change things or just to the part where you can set in commands for later activation? The former doesn't make any sense based on the rest of your posts, so I'm assuming the latter. If so, that'd be fine then.

>>53862410
1) you only start off with one planet, so it's a very big advantage compared to others.

2)oh you meant those particular ones and not the whole ethics section. Huh must have missed that. Fixed.

3) yes while that is true I do feel that it is much better to make the victory conditions the way to end the Jump. They aren't particularly hard or even challenging, but I think I will pick a Civil way of doing things.

>>53862465
Yes?

>>53862454
>using the FR jump
>as precedent for anything
Just because it's been in a jump doesn't mean it's a great design decision, especially not when your "precedent" is from a jump that's universally-panned. This is like Record trying to justify infinite-CP time extension because it exists in Imperium, but worse because no one seriously considers FR decent.

>>53862558
And I fucking forgot my name. Great

>>53862200
The intro/history mentions "Some time back in the fifties", but what's the current date at the start of the jump?

>>53862524
Combined pairs on the System Node level don't leave their home systems under normal circumstances. Bee was worried about adjusting himself at all lest he warp space by accident in the process. When the protagonist asked, the response was "Maybe when the Sun's between us. Maybe."

In-system they can teleport puppet bodies around for flexible vantage points, but otherwise they're planted in N different spacial dimensions.

>>53862541
>since they'd either be present and alive or in the future or nothing at all like the legend portrays them
Not part of this conversation, but why would they have to be present and alive or in the future to be valid as a servant? Aren't fictitious Servants who go back far enough valid as well?

>>53862658
No, I'm saying them being those things would make them invalid.

Anyway, also operating on the assumption of this being treated as an actual character within the nasuverse instead of a fiction. If it's purely fictional...I'm not sure how to treat it. I'm still leaning towards no because the fictitious version still has the same issues as the real one, even if the story has been around for a long time.

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>>53862470
>>53862480
Meh. It's not that big of a deal now that I know what the hell to do to make the export program work.

>>53862536
You know what? Sure.

>>53862581
Nebulous, I don't know if it's ever really mentioned, but from the fact that the main character is playing an MMO at the beginning, either the very late 1990's or the early 2000's.

>Added the line, "As far as your Symbiote abilities go, you begin as a Synergized Pair," to the header for the Backgrounds section.
>Changed the line, "...even to people that would normally be willing to swallow the line, hook, line, and sinker," from, "Picking it Up," to read, "...even to people that would normally be willing to swallow their bullshit, hook, line, and sinker.
>Changed the text of Military Gear Cache to add gene mod and combat drug chemical compositions, and schematics for an an injector implant for the drugs.
>Added the line, "It is now the early 2000's," as the first sentence of the second paragraph of the intro.

>>53862709
You're the best, anon.

>>53862693
Sorry, my brain died while I was typing my post, I meant to say 'why would the Antichrist have to be alive or in the future to be real?' A legitimate question, because I don't actually understand the reasoning for why that should be the case.

>>53862737
Because the antichrist is a character of the Christian end times, which obviously have not yet occurred.

>>53862737
Well, from what I understand, they're meant to lead the way into the second coming of Christ/the apocalypse, right? Which obviously hasn't happened yet, given how unsubtle such a thing would be, so the Antichrist would need to either be yet to be born or be alive and working towards becoming known as a false messiah/corrupter to lead up to the Second Coming.

>>53862650
So you're saying that because one combined pair, nascent god and still becoming used to his newfound power, thought that he might accidentally Warp space... they're rooted in these dimensions? That's not even considering the fact that they're not so much literally rooted to these positions, as metaphorically and effectively, because of the scope of their power. Which is suggested by the fact that they can "adjust" in the first place. If they couldn't move, then why would they worry about the effects of their movement? And why would they go to different systems when 99% of the others out there are lifeless chunks of rock and gas?

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Jumpers, what kind of comic book supervillain are you?

Saturday Morning Cartoon? Edgelord? Mastermind? D-List Fodder?

>>53862709
I require your professional opinion on how much of a screw up it would be for me to import Esdeath as my Symbiote, she is also madly in love with jumper. What is your opinion?

>>53862771
>>53862791
But the end times will never actually occur in Nasuverse. Like, the timeline up to the death of Gaia is known and it doesn't appear for it to have ever happened, the second coming that is.

I was pretty much always working on the assumption that there was never any specific individual who was definitely the Antichrist, or if there was, he lived and died already and was one of the people accused throughout history of being him.

>>53862867
Then the anti-christ can't be real.

>>53862839
I wouldn't call myself a villain.

>>53862881
Does that mean I cannot use the Cookie Monster anymore?

>>53862843
>Esdeath as Symbiote
>Madly in love with Jumper
Do you just... want a head full of sadistic madwoman, never leaving you alone, talking to you inside your head while you try to sleep, in charge of the form your body takes, and capable of taking control to attack and/or kill people she sees as a threat to you?

>>53862905
That...actually sounds kinda nice, and a bit kinky.

>>53862839
Hands Down D-List Fodder. I am not playing it up or down, I'm not taking it too seriously, and am just trying to get shit done. I win or lose and let myself pass from memory.

>>53862890
Well, I'll call you a villain. What kind fits you, you monster?

>>53862867
If he lived and died already, he wouldn't fit the bill for the character anyway.

I could see something taking after the likes of Servants like Jack, Kojiro and the Pale Rider, where the 'antichrist' in this instance is more a collection of evil, corrupting figures from across history bound under one name, but it would mean it would have to be more based on the corrupting evil then the biblical Antichrist, since it's more an amalgamation of evil people then a singular character.

Less "This is the Antichrist" and more "This is the collective fears of the Antichrist given some life by the actions of the worst, vilest sorts of men"

>>53862900
Sadly, the Cookie Monster is banned. Not so sadly because that thing always freaked me out as a kid.

>>53862709
>>53862046
>100 CP Charge for non Drop Ins
>200 CP Charge the 4th background
My god, it came from 2014!
Definitely drop the CP costs for taking backgrounds.

>>53862839
Mastermind.

I accidentally made MY MIND TOO FAST FOR EYES and I cant seem to get out of it.

Also, I genderbent crimeboy for the hell of it and then one of my companions adopted her. So that's a thing.

>>53862839
Kinda edgelord-y to be honest. I don't mean to be, but my aesthetic just ends up that way. Think a mixture of the games Scorn and Agony, with some Hellraiser and a little bit of Great Old One fun.

>>53862256
Maybe something like having to get 100% on every test in your classes or else you fail the chain, though might have to have additional levels that remove your intelligence perks.
Or maybe a runaway spirit has taken residence in you and is making you depressed/angry/some crazy shit.
Generic 'Vintage is after you and knows about your powers' thing?
Gaming addiction?
Attracted to some god-awful character in 2D?

>>53862952
>Less "This is the Antichrist" and more "This is the collective fears of the Antichrist given some life by the actions of the worst, vilest sorts of men"
Isn't that exactly what I said I wanked him as being when I first brought him up? Like, am I just being a dummy and not picking up on some minutia that differentiates what I was thinking him being and what you're suggesting? Cuz I actually feel like it's the same, and I'm wondering if I'm an idiot here or if there was a miscommunication somehow.

>>53862952
>If he lived and died already, he wouldn't fit the bill for the character anyway.
You are making the "No true Scotsman" argument.
Arthur is the once and future king. Since the legend requires him to be the future king, there can be no servant based on the legend of King Arthur.

Or what passes for rules in Nasuland otherwise, and you are getting a bit to big for your britches there gal, and making BS rulings about the setting as if you were the author, as opposed to jump clarifications.

>>53863051
You come across like a non-christian who has no idea how the antichrist is intended to work if you think he's an actual figure an not an allegory.

>>53863051
>trying to pick another fight with Val
>despite knowing most of the thread supports them even despite their shit attitude.

Anon. Fight you can't win. Recognize this.

>>53863075
Wasn't the Antichrist literally meant to refer to anybody who wasn't "Christ-like"? So it's literally all non-Christians, but the more evil people in particular?

>>53862839
>Saturday Morning Cartoon
All day erry day.

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Jumpers, when you became a Psyker in Light of Terra, what specialization did you choose and why?

>>53863094
You're capitalizing the term, so no.

As far as who the Antichrist, capital A, was supposed to be, it was probably just the Roman Emperor at the time. Probably Nero.

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>>53862839
If I'm taking it seriously? Mastermind.

I'm enjoying myself far too much to pull off a convincing edgelord act, and I only ever go full saturday morning when trying to humiliate the heroes. I could just /bake/ forty cakes, I'll only steal them to prove the opposition can't stop me, and only after leaving a note at the bakery and calling the local papers with a date and time. If I'm sandbagging hard enough to convincingly pass for fodder I might as well send an underling instead, because I've got better things to do.

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>>53862839

It depends on the setting for me.

Most times I go Saturday Morning Cartoon mixed with D-List Fodder.

However my sheer disgust at current Marvel Comics caused me to become an Edgelord/Mastermind when I arrived in that setting.

I sort of became pic related to the younger heroes being pushed for diversity points. I terrorized them both in and out of costume.

I told them it was to make them better heroes through suffering but really it was just spite towards them and their creators.

>>53862839
In the extremely rare occasion that I go villain, I just go with whatever fits the setting that I'm in.

>>53862984
How did you accomplish the genderbend? Is this, like, a perk or something?

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>>53863124
Biokinesis. Because fucking with Biology is the best.

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>>53863135
Silly Zoom and his rip off costume.

>>53863125
So there's antichrist (the general term) and Antichrist (the specific person)?

>>53863181
That couch looks like it is as tough as a rock.

>>53863016
You were saying you'd have a person strongly associated with the Antichrist be overtaken by the actual legend of the Antichrist. The issue I take with the legend of the actual antichrist is what we've discussed above.

The solution I proposed was instead taking the legends of a whole bunch of corrupting and evil people and combining them together to form a mass of corrupting, evil people, something very close and inspired by the Antichrist but not actually him. This is like how Kojiro/Fake Assassin is the combination of several different people. SO those popes you were talking about earlier? Maybe combining them all into one figure that has traits styled after the Antichrist, but they are not actually the Antichrist. They're the fear of that thing, the belief in that thing and the corruption associated with it, but they're different from the actual character.

Yes, it ultimately makes little mechnical difference but I think there's quite a large gap in the difference it makes on a setting level.

>>53863051
You're getting full of yourself anon. If he's died in the past, he's not going to be able to fulfil his role at the Second Coming. And if the Second Coming isn't a thing, then the Antichrist is just a bad dude that corrupts people and not some false messiah that opposes Jesus.

Your example of King Arthur is just stupid too. Arthur has a legend and history in the past that the Servant is based on. The fact that he will return eventually isn't an issue because that's not what the Servant is based on. It's got no relevance to the Antichrist example either, because the Antichrist doesn't have a legend where they die and come back again later, to my knowledge.

>>53863124
Pyrokinesis. Because fire is good and sometimes you just need to burn a heretic.

>>53863124
I haven't been this chain, but last chain I fanwanked sending my companions on the LoT DLC. Asgore ended up going full Pyromancer with the thing that turns your body into fire. Deacon from Fallout ended up with Adrenaline Control, Warp Shield, Psychic Blade, and Weapon Jinx.

I went Hospitalier in the Sororitas Jump, and took the capstone booster.

>>53863190
Exactly.

>>53863146
Unholy heights, pretty sure it's called 'a new arrival'.

Lets you genderbend people, retroactiveness optional.

>>53863288
>retroactiveness optional.
Wait, is it?

>>53863181

I'm looking forward to reading The Flash. I love villains like Thawne who are just unrepentantly evil and petty.

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>>53862839
Japanese Sienen

>>53863199
>Maybe combining them all into one figure that has traits styled after the Antichrist, but they are not actually the Antichrist. They're the fear of that thing, the belief in that thing and the corruption associated with it, but they're different from the actual character.
Yeah, that's literally what I mean when I refer to his 'legend'/'myth'.

The idea of the Antichrist that persists overtime which remains in the common perception of humanity more than even the god they oppose, because people have throughout history constantly accused one another of being him. Not the actual Antichrist, but the figure in people's imaginations when they claim that someone is.

This quintessential image of the Antichirst would corrupt a Servant that was lesser known and strongly believed to have been the Antichrist into something more inline with that image then their own legend...was what I originally said I was doing. Is it specifically the weird mutation of the Servant into something else?

>>53863356
I guess we just had a misunderstanding then. I thought that when you originally referred to the legend of the Antichrist, you were talking about the actual being overriding the original summoned being instead of just them taking on parts of that legend.

>>53863348
How tough does a jumper have to be to stomp all over the villains of that setting?

>>53863332
I thought so, yes? Let me check.

>>53863332
>>53863397
>A New Arrival - 100 - Free Drop-in
>You have an easy time getting new residents. What's more you can even set it to attract new members of a specific species and gender. Out of this jump you will have the ability to switch any creature's gender as you please. All normal residents of a world will have their history changed to reflext their new gender, though you'll have the choice of whether or not companions will have theirs retconed. You will always remember the person's original gender however.

Well, i'm half right.

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>>53863396
Just beat Guts and you're done

>INB4 Griffith is a villain though
>Implying Griffith did anything wrong

>>53863430
I own that game. Genderbending never happens or is even implied. The only thing funky about gender in that game is that 'male' succubi are just normal succubi with horns that point the opposite direction of 'females'.

So... someone slipped their fetish into the jump, I guess? Or there's some secret I didn't unlock before I got bored.

>>53863457
I think its half that and half that the ability to attract tenants to a apartment complex isn't particularly impressive.

>>53862709
Just occurred to me, Jolly Cooperation seems to be the only option with a 50 in its price point.
Maybe bring the age/sex/location choices (or Juice Cans?) down so people importing odd numbers of companions won't be stuck with a 50cp surplus.

>>53863457
No, it's pretty much accepted that the jump is flat-out made up of a whole shitload of non-canonical elements.

The jumpmaker refused to listen, for some reason it still got on the drive.

>>53863483
Accepted and then disproved to be only idiots who ignored those that have actually played it and who point out that there's only two or three non canon things that people always extend to the rest of the jump so they can shit on it all. Because they're stupid. Like you.

>>53863452
He didn't confess his deep homosexual love for Guts.

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What arcana is she?

And any recs for her persona(s)?

>>53863508
Moon

>>53863505
That would have only distracted him from his dream.

>>53862839
Mastermind.

If I'm doing things right, then nobody will know I'm doing anything at all. Just the way I want.

...although, on the rare interaction with the heroes, I probably come across as really tryhard edgy, what with my tendency to swear and rant a lot, the chuuni naming patterns, and my affinity for telerportation and sharp implements.

>>53863553
>Want to be a king
>But not wanting your best bro/love interest to be your queen by your side

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>>53863562
>Implying Guts would be the queen

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>>53863475
Balls, that's a good point. Quick change, though.

>>53863592
Griffith may have looked more like a girl, but he wouldn't be the submissive type.

>>53863527
One the one hand, I would have said empress, since it says they use ice magic.

On the other hand, moon fits her 'broken' mentality really well.

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>>53863630
What ever you say anon

Could y'all give me some jumps? I've just completed my early-chain.

>>53863686

Black Bullet

>>53863686
Light of Terra

>>53863686
Van Hellsing
Batman the animated series
Viking Saga
Fate/Stay Night.

>>53863686
persona/persona 5.

>>53863686
SCP Foundation
R-Type
NGE
Code Geass

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>53863716
LoT is a gauntlet Anon, verr bad.

1. Black Bullet
2. Van Hellsing
3. Batman: TAS
4. Viking Saga
5. Fate/Stay Night
6. Persona/Persona5
7. SCP Foundation
8. R-Type
9. NGE
10. Code Geass

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Whatever happened to that When They Cry jump?

>>53863914
What in tarnation is a viking saga?

>>53863934
Norse mythology.

>>53863914
Light of Terra isn't a Gauntlet. It is Gauntlet-like, but if you die it is still chain end, iirc.

>>53863934
Norse mythos written by the blackest man alive.

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>>53863932
One doesn't exist, unless you count Umineko (When the Seagulls Cry). No one has taken a swing at Higurashi (When the Cicadas Cry) yet.

I might take a crack at it once my plate's clearer? I'm a lot lazier these days, though.

>>53863942
>>53863961
This jump reads like absolute dogshit.

>>53863748
Up yours ya jerk!

>>53862709
Can Jumper learn to access the Symbiote's mental speed as described in the end notes? How hard would that be?

>>53863986
I DID ADD A MODIFIER, MIND YOU.

I NEVER SAID IT WAS GOOD.

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>>53862839
I'm a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain, and proud of it! Though I also have hints of the Mastermind as well, given that I do come up with plans that might actually succeed in taking over the world if it wasn't for those meddling kids.

>>53863999
You get all of the Symbiote's abilities if you spin them off into their person. So, yeah.

>>53863593
Do you really need to have a background cost 200 CP?

>>53863593
Can we use the Bio-Injector to make copies of our own symbiotes to shove into other people? So if we had the Berserker OS, we could give a symbiote with that to others?

>>53863475
>>53863593
You could also do
Homeless(Drop-In [Free]
Civilian[50CP]
Military[50CP]
Political[100CP]
or
Homeless(Drop-In [Free]
Civilian[Free]
Military[Free]
Political[50CP]

>>53863593
Am I right in assuming that you can take Advanced Bio-Proccessing without taking the basic version and not lose much or anything at all?

Holy fucking shit is this Viking Saga jump bad. Fuck you RavenloftAnon.

Why are only two of the backgrounds acutally written out?! Everything else just has shitty bulletpoints that don't make any sense!

The writing itself is god awful, who taught this person how to write? Jesus wept.

Why is a generic beauty perk 200cp?

What does 'Your body stops following normal biology' actually do?

Why are there no examples of runic magic to base the power-level of the perk off of?

Why is a generic charisma perk 400cp?

Magic in Nordic mythology is regarded as a woman's craft, why would you be greeted as nobility for knowing it? All eighteen what? Jesus fucking christ my eyes.

That crafting perk, my sides. 600cp to make seeking javelins and belts of strength +6.

Why does sorcery give you necromancy, cold immunity, and the ability to become a genie?

How does fuelled by fear work with people that dont know who you are? Do none of your powers work in any jump until you go shoot a few people with a gun or something?

WHAT IN THE SWEET TIT IS THE USE OF A FATE MANIPULATION PERK WHEN YOU EXPLICITLY CANT READ YOUR OWN FATE?! AND YOU'RE FORCED TO TAKE THE WORST DRAWBACK FREE?!

All the items are memes, instead of anything actually informative. Like, 'how big is the boat?' or 'what does the armor actually cover?'

My personal favorite thing in this section is that the dwarf items are split up all over the place.

The drawbacks are likewise entirely uninspired, and honestly not at all threatening. Especially since anyone with a brain would just not take anything that required a shitty drawback in this shitty jump.

Who the fuck made this.
Fuck you Ravenloft Anon.

>>53864246
Bitch bitch bitch. It's years old, get over it.

>>53864246
Pretty sure that Ravenloft Anon didn't make that. And also, when the Jumpmaker stepped forward and left their claim to it up in the air because they didn't think they'd update it, the thread told him to sit on it instead of letting whoever work on it and improve it.

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>>53864246

>>53864246
FEEL MY FUCKING SALT.

FEEL IT.

>>53864281
He didn't, but Ravenloft tossed him to it as one of the roll option

>>53864278
It's news to me yo.

>>53864281
Raveloft was the one that added it to the list

>>53864283
I coulda been a lot more rude

>>53864285
Mmhmm

>>53864246
Sweet baby jumping jesus the salt is spewing. It is flying, ladies and gentlemen, this raw avalanche of PURE. UNREFINED SALT.

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>>53864321
I can't believe I'm jumping this piece of absolute garbage.

>>53864296
>>53864307
I see.

>>53864344
>>53864246
Stop being a bitch, holy shit. I can't have any empathy for someone throwing a tantrum.

>>53864246
>Magic in Nordic mythology is regarded as a woman's craft, why would you be greeted as nobility for knowing it? All eighteen what? Jesus fucking christ my eyes.
Sedr is a woman's art. Runes are manly. Learn your lore, fag.

>>53864246
>Why does sorcery give you necromancy, cold immunity, and the ability to become a genie?
Look up Princess Skuld.

>>53864365
Sedr isn't even a woman's thing, stop believing bullshit with no support.

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>>53864361
ecksdee

>>53864365
First I'm hearing of it bruh, you got any of them sources?

>>53864368
Neato

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>>53864374
Oh no, sedr being womanly is definitely a real thing. We have plenty of evidence of that. We have Loki making fun of Odin for that. The part that's not supported is the feminist argument that sedr was 'empowering sex magic because magic staves are innately phallic' and things like that.

>>53864389
Are you really doing the "I was only pretending to be retarded" thing?

>>53863593
Might I suggest an alternative to the free super companion that would still satisfy the Privacy/Paranoia jumpers?

Just let jumper "toggle" the symbiote's AI, letting either jumper or the AI be in control of the abilities as the jumper wants without giving the free and powerful companion.

>>53864401
You betcha, I must've been struck retarded by this jump. Help, I've been disabled.

I have a question about "This Is, In Fact, My Final Form" from the sword art online jump.
It states that i can freely mix and match my altforms/combine them together, access any power or trait from any form. Does that mean i can be creative in the mix up and avoid weaknesses in the new altform altogether.
for example: Can i combine a kryptonian and martian altform in a way that i'm immune to kryptonite as well as fire or am i always automatically hurt by both in this mixed form?

>>53864413
Man you're an insufferable human being. Can we trade you for SDA?

>>53864427
What is it with you and SDA anon?

>>53864390
To clarify, the Lokisanna is full of made up accusations because it's essentially viking humor directed at their own gods. As in, calling Freya a big slut has little basis in reality. But the actual insults are still valid insults, they're just being largely attributed to things the vikings don't actually believe happened. So Loki saying that magic is girly is valid information, else the context of the insult wouldn't have made sense.

>>53864424
Some wank that you can, some wank that you can't.

>>53864344
Look.

If you don't like it, don't fucking jump it, and do something else.

God damn, you're not being remotely funny, just stop.

>>53863389

I have a few question about the Dragon Ball Multiverse jump, and also the Fate ones.

1. In DBM If you take 'Super Multiverse' and 'Just For The Story' drawbacks can you have stuff from both Super and GT occur?

2. Any chance of an exception to the lose condition if you don't win the tournament but an imported companion does? If not would companions forfeiting count as 'external aid' and/or 'cheating'?

Oh also on a side note the starting date for the jump in the introduction is ten years off from when DBM starts. Figured I might as well mention that error and/or typo.

Now for the Fate questions.

1. Are the ghouls you can summon from the Demon Summoning Handbook in Fate/Zero the early Dead Apostle stage, or just generic flesh eating monsters?

2. Assuming they can figure out how could a jumper use the information in the Demon Summon Handbook to modify themselves, or would the changes count as dying?

3. If you take 'The Long War' drawback and win any of the earlier Grail Wars (and things are actually intact enough for it to be usable unlike in canon) could you sell those 'wishes', or would that count as accessing them?

4. With the JUMPER drawback in F/SN is the JUMPER guaranteed to attack immediately, or is their a chance of them delaying the attack if you/they have stuff that would increase their chances of success if they do so?

>>53864166
No on the first one, but for the second one, you could just teach them. If you have, or develop, Bio-Communication, your Symbiote can just tell them how to do it.

>>53864411
That was mostly a joke and I am not going to do anything about it, one way or the other.

Furthermore, since this is a generic and you think it's so terrible, and you're apparently so knowledgeable, why not make your own about a specific saga? I'd love to spend more time in that setting, have another jump to jump.

>>53863986
>Up yours ya jerk!
well I'm sorry you didn't like my suggestions

>>53864456
hmmm... so it's up to me and about how easy i want it.
I circumvented the problem for now by also adding doomsday to the mixed altform, so any weakness i have that will get me killed won't ever work a second time.

>>53864499
Ignore him dude, he's acting like a rabid tardling.

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So I decided to stop fucking around and simply get shit done now, I've officially completed the fully Jumpable form of the Stellaris Jump, enjoy.

Anyone who's disappointed at the lack of the Worm can engage in Invisitext mode.

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>>53864560

>>53864560
...

Well that was fucking ominous.

>>53864619
Don't worry. He loves you.

>>53864492
Sure.

I can't remember if two fighters from the same universe can be pitted against each other, been a while since I read it. If they can, the you have to win it yourself. If not, an imported companion on the same team as you can win for you. Companions forfeiting for you would count as cheating but it'd have to be figured out that that was happening for it to count.

Thanks.

Just generic monsters.

Modify themselves how? There's not really specific information to doing that in the book but I guess you might find some useful info on some monsters there.

If you win the previous grail wars, you're only going to be getting a wish that would be granted in canon, which are nowhere near the ones you get for beating the ones you start jumps in. So you can access them just fine if you want. Indeed, you'll have to, since you'll have to make the wish upon winning.

They're going to fight smart, or at least as smart as you if not smarter. If they'd be better served by waiting, they'll do so, but if they know you'd take advantage of that and turn it around, they'll attack immediately instead.

>>53864560
Can someone post the invisitext stuff for me?

>>53864560
>Import Orks as enemies
>Six times
>Rule over Orks
>Laugh as the galaxy burns in a GROIT BIG ZOGGIN FOIGHT!

>>53864560
Would you consider adding spaces between your purchase descriptions?

>>53864496
Having just started reading the series I need to ask, do we have to worry about the suicide protocol?

>>53864560
oh god that front page, augh my eyes.
Everything else is readable, but that's just painful to attempt to.

>>53864619
For an even bigger surprise you can go invisitext mode the whole Jump. You may find something that surprises you by the end of it.

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>>53864710
you cheeky fuck

>>53864246
>Holy fucking shit is this Viking Saga jump bad. Fuck you RavenloftAnon.
And Somefaggit, that's the guy that made it, though I have not seen him around in a long time
>Why are only two of the backgrounds acutally written out?! Everything else just has shitty bulletpoints that don't make any sense!
I can't explain this.
>Why is a generic beauty perk 200cp?
Fuck if I know.
>What does 'Your body stops following normal biology' actually do?
It has to do with some of the weird stuff that happened with Loki's kids, anyway here's a rulling by Somefaggit
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/35679161/#35686026
As for how I pulled that up so fast, the question comes up.
>Why are there no examples of runic magic to base the power-level of the perk off of?
There have been some rulings on this, but I'm not searching for them but iirc it's something like enchanting a weapon with enough power to cause lightning strikes. From what I remember of norse myth though runes aren't anything to fuck with, as there are various stories of someone dumbass writing something down and due to not knowing how to do it correctly it became a dangerous curse that a skald had to come and fix.
>Why is a generic charisma perk 400cp?
Fuck if I know.
>All eighteen what?
All I can say is that the Eighteen refers to the Eighteen runes of Odin though what exactly you could do with them Fuck if I know.
>That crafting perk
Somefaggit clairified this as the perk for if you want to make Mjolnir, and probably a better one unless loki fucks with you too when you make yours. But he might have suggested you'd need the Runes perk too I don't recall. But he did say it works on literally everything you make, giving a flat bonus to everything.
>sorcery
Fuck if I know.
>fuelled by fear work
Fuck if I know.

>>53864560
What Was, Will Be. What Will Be, Was.

Honestly, I'm not even sure if The Worm In Waiting is the scariest thing in the setting anymore, with The End of the Cycle making its appearance in the Utopia expansion. I haven't encountered it myself, but from what I hear it's really nasty. Then again, you get what you deserve if you're making a deal with what's essentially the child of Malal and a C'Tan.

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>>53864560
The Chiirim Collective requests you do not enter the Collective's borders.


Why no Hivemind option? You bastard.

>>53864710
Oh, hi, arrow of Brahma. How you doing?

>>53864758
Well the Worm doesn't try to kill everyone in the universe so that's a plus.

>>53864560
>You can take the civilisation along with you
No. Let'snot do this. Let's not make an entire fucking solar system go along to each jum

>>53864772
Then here's this guy looking for bait to post.

>>53864710
Can you please not do this? hiding stuff like this only fucks over anyone who does this without knowing.

>>53864783
Someone's shitting on fun yet again. You're not getting fucked over by the worm unless you start getting love letters from black holes. If you're stupid enough to keep sending it victims at that point it's your own fault.

>>53864246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi9bJhRZtKA

>>53864772
You get your entire state anon. Could be a lot more then one solar system. Given there's no limits on what you get to bring along besides what you can conquer during this jump, you can conceivably get to carry around the entire universe, starting any space faring jump with it all under your control.

>>53864793
All I'm asking is for him to not make it invisible you cunt.

>>53864772
We have personal dimensions larger than solar systems and universes, courtesy of Cracker_Jack.

Nothing matters anymore.

>>53864741
Hi.
>>53864760
The Genetic Engineering tech and the Evolutionary Mastery Perk are only 450 CP away.

>>53864809
Copy pasting is soooo hard.

>>53864813
What, where?

>>53864822
And what about people who haven't been told to look for invisible text? What does having it be invisible actually add to the jump as opposed to what it takes away?

>>53864822
His point is that people who aren't in this thread, and seeing the warning that there is invisitext, won't even know it's there. Which limits their options.

what's the best way i can make the other personalities of the AlienX from Ben10 do what i want? Or even better erase them so, i'm the only one left.
I was thinking of "goodby carol" from portal, but that only erases the part of my personality that cares.
Can i possibly defeat them with strong (inward) telepathy? Or more esotheric stuff?

>>53864814
It's actually not possible in the game to add hivemind unless you're a hivemind through genetic engineering.

>>53864814
Why does no one love Hiveminds? Even the dude behind Alphamod has said he isn't gonna add special stuff for Hiveminds, like he did for other Ethos.

>>53864835
You've yet to tell me why you need some snide text talking about the Worm. What benefit does it give you that you're shitposting about it?

>>53864836
So?

>>53864835
>>53864836
It's thematic my friend, to represent just how rare the actual Worm Event Chain is, and how lucky you have to be for it to start. Basically it's something you won't get unless you're looking for it are lucky. It's just a drawback anyway.

>>53864850
>>53864839
Yeah, that's why you get it the way it's gotten in Game, through Genetic Engineering. With both options it would take maybe five years to get it done.

>>53864858
So again, screwing over people who aren't here to see you tell people to look for them. This isn't a joke option or fluff, this is actual content that people are very likely to completely miss, all for the sake of 'thematic'.

Other people manage to be thematic without doing stuff like this. Please follow their example and don't make actual content invisible.

How do you look for invisible text?

>>53864858
How about you do what Infernals did and make the text visible, but thematically colored?
You know, when people pointed out invisitext perks were horseshit. Just like invisitext drawbacks are horseshit.

>>53864867
What. I'm saying you can't add hivemind through genetic engineering UNLESS you were already a hivemind.

>>53864838
I'm, like, 99% sure the Ben10 jump explicitly forbids you from scanning with the Omnitrix or otherwise acquiring the power of Alien X anyway.

>>53864868
>>53864878
You're kind of proving that you're just shitposting here. Oh no a drawback you don't need to take is fucking you over! How? Explain it, moron.

>>53864868
It's really not that deep. It's like ten words all to reference an easter egg event meant for people who play the game. It's not as big as you're making it out to be.
>>53864870
Just open in Docs and change font. Either that or copy paste the whole thing, open in Docs, and change font.
>>53864878
I guess I could do that as well if people really care that much.

>>53864867
>Implying
I've started dozens of Hivemind games, several have had my opening text have the Hivemind be something species has had since primitive times, long before they could gene-engineer.

>>53864888
I THINK that he's talking about the opening text, where it sometimes says the Hivemind was gene-engineered before the game begins.

>>53864897
>It's not as big as you're making it out to be.
$500 he hasn't actually read your jump. The shitposter is active and he's having a hard time with bait today.

>>53864897
Please do change it.

>>53864892
You can get it in other ways IIRC like through The baby one.

>>53864905
No money on a bet that you're the shitposter, trying to get him to refuse a basic change that's been proven to be more popular in past jumps like Exalted Infernals.

>>53864895
It's denying people an option, because they don't know it's there.

>>53864895
You're so stupid it makes my head hurt.

>>53864913
An option that's a joke trap drawback. I don't think anyone's actually going to take it. But you're right, people should at least get the chance to see the Worm for themselves. Never doubt the Worn. Wait, wrong setting.

>>53864913
It's not giving you anything, dipshit.

>>53864910
>>53864920
By the by, when you make a ton of posts rapidly it makes it obvious who you are.

>>53864704
If you get into touch with the people that imprison symbiotes, kinda? Berzerkers are actually fairly rare, so you're not going to be getting triggered by seeing one, most likely; you'd actually have to actually go hunting for them, or have the military faction of symbiotes tries to get in touch with you.

They'll try to pigeonhole you into needing to have your symbiote imprisoned by showing you the memetic, which is just any image of a berzerker. Their leader knows that seeing them acts as a memetic agent to trigger the transformation, and does this as a control method; he doesn't trust the symbiotes, because they're not human, and tries to kill off all of the symbiotes under his employ, if I'm remembering right, around the time a cure for the berzerker protocol is found, because he can't control them anymore. This includes women and children.

>>53864246
Maybe I shouldn't answer this but I'll go ahead because there are a few jumps that made me feel a bit salty. I try to keep that to myself.

I am sorry you don't like it. I withdraw the suggestion. So no problem you don't have to take the jump anymore. I was not trying to throw you a bad jump I mean I know it has problems but I like Norse mythology and I like a few of the abilities so I thought it was tolerable.

>>53864707
Do you have serious problems with your eyes or are you being a drama queen?

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>>53864663
Here it is.
The ͞Wo̧rm̵, ͢K̶in̶g̵of All͢(+̵1000͘):͜Y̷o̸u͠kno̕w͠w̡hat ́this i͝s̡Jumpe͢r, ̛ ̡ye̕s͡ you ́mu̢st̴ ̷k̷ill͡ it̕o̢r ful͡l̶y e̛nd ̛it’s ͘in f̕lue̛nc̡e͞͡a̷s t̀he ͠bl͢igh͠t̛ ̴i͘t́i̷s̛ ́on̡ this worl̡d ̀a̴n͞d̶̀ot̵h͢er̷s͢,͡ ̢goo͡d ̢luck̛.

I find that for people like me where invisitext doesnt really work for people with highlighting (Like the macs I use for instance), Command + A and copy and then pasting in a blank google doc does wonders for me.

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>>53864929
>people should at least get the chance to see the Worm for themselves
>Wanting to "see" Worm the Waifu

>>53864944
He can't even space things properly in invisible text can he.

>>53864741
>>53864769
I like how no one is mentioning these. I thought the shitposter would have noticed them by now.

>>53864946
Anon, do not fuck the Worm in Waiting. Do not.

>>53864956
I think it's more or less my mac being a huge dipshit as usual to be fair

>>53864957
That was included in the request to change the invisitext stuff.

>>53864960
As the Jump maker I thoroughly abhor this idea and agree with this.

At least take it out on a date first.

>>53864936
I meant the thing where they were cutting off fingers at the beginning to access code and there was a fail safe that tried to kill them by manufacturing toxins.

>>53864892
i was thinking of tagging along with Ben, or just directly going to the forge of creation, aquire celestialsapien DNA via animorphs "acquisitive gaze" and integrate the DNA via "primal evolution" from the Zerg jump into my mixed alt form (this is in fact, my final form; SAO). That's the way i've acquired DNA specific powers for all of my jumps.

Okay, I have to ask: what the fuck is the Worm in Waiting anyway?

>>53864988
With all the time travel shenanigans, omnipotent aliens, and universe destroying devices out

there, it can sometimes be downright impossible for a Jumper to avoid their certain demise. In

situations where a universe-wide disturbance that you are not responsible for would erase you from

existence and someone (probably Ben) eventually undoes it, Professor Paradox will come by and

take you to a point in time where everything is fixed.

Post-Spark, Paradoxical grants you the power to freely travel through space and time, as well as

slow down and speed up time. You can choose what is affected by this power, and thanks to your

knowledge you know the limits that you can abuse it before it damages the space-time continuum.

You and your companions cannot take with you or use Ascalon, the Omnitrix, or the Alpha Rune.

Anyone you pod or turn into a Companion from Ben 10 who is wearing the Omnitrix can keep it,

but it essentially becomes a part of themselves and cannot be removed.

That's the whole notes section, no mention of it.

>>53864987
Oh. Yeah, no, that's not something you need to worry about. Whether you slipped under the radar of the factions, or just already got past it, nah, you don't need to deal with it.

>>53865013
You need to make it clearer that the civilisation import has to be something you ruled over in the past. The second drawback mentions it but the actual import option does not.

This should also have a clause like Civilisation jump where the other races are at least equal to the one you imported, otherwise you can just import some crazy strong and large race and use it to control everything with ease, then getting your free galaxy/universe to bring along to future jumps without any effort

>>53864957
So is that another namefag we need to add to the SB list?

>>53865056
Fixed it. Can't believe I missed that.

>>53864988
>>53864838
well, if you're using the animorphs jump anyway, you could just use "chimera morph" were you combine several specimen into one. So if you fuse AlienX with another alien from Ben10 you can and i quote:
>"fuse them together into a chimera morph, possessing whatever qualities from each sacrificed morph that you require. The result must be biologically possible, but the exact details of a sacrificed morph can be fudged; for example, scaling up parts of one animal to match the size of another (so yes, you can scale up an eagle to a lion’s size to make a griffon morph)"
so that means you can just mix the powers of the celestialsapien with the phisiology of another alien and therefore completely losing the multiple personalities

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>>53865061
Whatever you say man

>>53865010
Its a sentient that exists outside space and loops through time in paradoxes.

Its got a stupidly low encounter rate of like .05% whenever you enter a system with a blackhole but it'll start a chain of events that leads to stuff like colonizing worlds to find you already colonized it years ago, people appearing and disappearing, ships you never made showing up and turning on you, and a bunch of other weird stuff.

You can either reject it and gain a little science or embrace all the weird stuff and eventually through all the events, you get all the pieces and sciences you need to build an object that lets it exists in our reality which you THEN get the option to either fight it or let it do its thing and it'll eat your star, becoming a bright black hole.

Its one of the longest running chain events in the game currently.

>>53865102
Or just get a child biology.

They have all the powers and only one personality.

>>53865142
And it's fucking awesome.

>>53865010
>>53865142
He declines to mention that the Worm's gift to you is to transform your race, giving them some boosted traits, give you the Tomb World preference, and then transform every single planet in your home system into a high quality Tomb World to settle.

>>53864813
I think Infernals or Generic Creepypasta did it first.

>>53864653

>I can't remember if two fighters from the same universe can be pitted against each other, been a while since I read it. If they can, the you have to win it yourself. If not, an imported companion on the same team as you can win for you. Companions forfeiting for you would count as cheating but it'd have to be figured out that that was happening for it to count.

I kind of figured it would at least be possible. Since otherwise their can't be a winner if one universe still has people left.


>Thanks.

You're welcome.

>Modify themselves how? There's not really specific information to doing that in the book but I guess you might find some useful info on some monsters there.

I was thinking stuff like using the theoretical research into True Demons to replicate how demons can transform their hosts. Also technically Dead Apostles if your ghoul answer had been different.

>If you win the previous grail wars, you're only going to be getting a wish that would be granted in canon, which are nowhere near the ones you get for beating the ones you start jumps in. So you can access them just fine if you want. Indeed, you'll have to, since you'll have to make the wish upon winning.

Oh. I kind of figured that they were put into reserve like the rest of the wishes.

Does this also apply to the wishes from the drawback in the F/SN jump where Zelretch keeps sending you to alternate grail wars, or are those also post-chain?

>They're going to fight smart, or at least as smart as you if not smarter. If they'd be better served by waiting, they'll do so, but if they know you'd take advantage of that and turn it around, they'll attack immediately instead.

Thanks. I had a thought that seemed interesting, but wasn't sure if it would work or not.

The thought was JUMPER making a deal with Angra Mainyu to help their incarnation as part of a plan to get the Jumper killed by the activation of the tainted Grail, or by the Counter Force.

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>>53865142
>>53865168
Well, that's a thing. You know, for a cosmic horror, it...actually doesn't sound that bad? It just sounds like it wants to exist in our reality, be friends with us, and eat our star. Oh, and also transform us and all our worlds. I mean, that's still insane, and those time shenanigans are concerning, but for a cosmic horror that's pretty tame.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13219858/r

>>53865197
Wait until you get to the not-Tyranids and the Giant space Xenomorph thing that comes out of another Dimension. That's not even mentioning their version of the warp.

Stellaris be crazy yo!

>>53865183
The theoretical research into True Demons is solely into summoning them, not into what they are/their abilities.

Yes, the only wish that has no limits (If you decide it works that way, as outlined in the notes) is the one you get by winning the main grail war that specific jump is focused around. Any extra ones, whether from drawbacks or your own choices, only give the canon wishes, which are limited.

Well, just keep in mind that, unless you're a damn weird kind of person already, they won't take suicidal actions unless they're totally sure you're going to die with them.

>>53865010
The Worm In Waiting is a trans-temporal entity, thus "What Was Will Be, What Will Be Was". The event chain for it is kind of confusing as a result, but if I understood it right what it wants is to set up a closed time loop in order to transform your species into something more like it by retconning your species into having always been something like it. Any evidence to the contrary is just an artifact of future people playing with the timeline. Of course you have an evolutionary record that indicates that you're not really space worms that have been temporarily mutated to look like whatever your species does. Space worms from the future went back and planted that evidence, as a joke. Your true identity lies with the Worm. Never doubt the Worm.

In fairness, it's not actually malevolent. From what we see the Worm in Waiting genuinely cares for those who accept its gift. One of the event cards mentions that its signals include poorly-written love poetry for the scientists working on deciphering them. The Worm is arguably just trying to turn us into something it can understand better and have a meaningful interaction with. But in the process it mutates your whole species into terrible monsters and collapses every star system you occupy into black holes.

>>53865205
Do personal house-rules count as "other"?

>>53865197
The Worm Loves You. That's literally a line in the game. Hell, early on, your means of contacting it is through a black hole that is sending out love letters to your race and individual scientists (which you are expected to 'sacrifice' to it, but still.)

>>53865197
Yeah, it's actually one of the lesser cosmic horrors. There are many worse things in the Stellaris setting, the Worm is really only notable for the time warping making it confusing to interact with.

>>53865212
>their version of the warp
Wait, what.

>>53865215
>>53865230
This is actually pretty interesting. Does transforming cause everyone else to freak out, or do they just role with it?