Modern General

>>53857372
I like UW control but I have just one question is that just a budget version right now?

how come there's seemingly more trans than cis women in magic?

>preordain

>>53857447
because trannies are men who want attention

>>53857447
>trans
>women

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>>53857372

>>53857447
Probably because there was a limited number of Vehicles in Kaladesh, and doing train art without a Vehicle keyword would have been a waste?

I'm not100% on whether they set quotas on gender for the art. I personally doubt it.

>>53857372
Should probably run at least one celestial colonnade

>>53857534
>not recognizing this meme

>>53857534
>>53857437

It's an old picture. It has preordain in it.

>>53857447
Because 99% of the CIS women who play Magic only play because they have significant others who play Magic.

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>seemingly random pile of cards completely BTFO living end

>>53857582
>>53857565
oh fug

>>53857630
>there are people ITT who haven't seen Zoolander

>>53857654
>watching ben shiller's movies

Can I run Chandra Torch of Defiance instead of Nahiri in Jeskai control? Would it be better?

>>53857630

My boi Mausoleum Wanderer being useful makes me proud

I feel bad for the mop boy assigned to Gabby.

>>53857714
>can I run garbage standard card?
>or can I run the card that inspired the fucking deck after Twin got killed?
Hmm... I wonder.

>>53858196
Well shit, there goes 90 dollers and planeswalkers and emracoolio...

I'll save up, but for now I may run ojutai dragonleader as a cheaper alternative.

>>53857714
chandra seems pretty bad with countermagic and not ramping out big red cards

First for Gabby looks like shit.

>>53858996
We'd all still hit it like a sledgehammer.

>>53858996
Can you not bully the only wizards coverage person who isn't completely fucking terrible.

>>53859032
The main problem is she lacks insight. She's more often than not the one asking the questions because it's much easier than answering them.

anyone who plays death shadow has no life

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>fairies decks

>affinity player can't count to 4
Literally how?

>>53857372
i might be getting a seeker tezzie soon, can i make him work in somthing like thopersword or some sort of ub setup?

>>53857565
what was the meme though?

>>53859450
yea whats the meme behind it

>>53857746
>mop boy
what does he mean by that

>>53859471
Is it actually an old standard deck?

>>53859533
i dunno im just asking wat the meme was, i was curious.

>>53857582
Mate, peordain was long banned before anon posted this pile of shit. That guy was either the biggest moron or the best troll I have ever come across

>the cringe on display right now.

>>53859638
ITT or twitch?

>>53859643
The stream on Twitch, dude. Some guy that's playing Affinity is making a colossal mess out of a win.

>>53859638
>Twitch chat burning him at the stake for sacrificing the 5/5 Ravager being blocked by the 4/4 Death's Shadow, not knowing that the Death's Shadow grows before SBAs are performed
I'm in a world of cringe.

>>53859704
Pop out the player and close the twitch window desu.

modern affinity showcase primer -- save this video boyz, that is how to play the deck

>>53859450
>>53859471
>>53859569
lurk moar

>The guy in chat constantly begging people to be nice to the new players in chat being swept away amidst a tide of PogChamps
This is the best thing about Twitch.

>>53859729
>>53859704
Sensitive newfriends from Reddit, please leave. The chat was right. The guy played that game horrendously. Also, Gabby Spartz is ugly af.

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>>53859737
so you have no idea too? OK.

Also this invocation art looks DOPE. First tentacle enrichment for Nissa now Human Centipede Invocation, Based MS Man doing some work.

>>53859704
But he knew about the fatal push in his opponents hand.

>>53859704
Didn't that guy know he was about to get BTFO by an engineered explosives? By moving the counters before combat damage he could have won if the opponent didn't have removal

>>53859774
>participating in twitch chat

lol who is the real redditor here

>>53859787
Angel's Grace or Worship.

>>53859787
>you won't spoonfeed me so you don't know
Literally kill yourself

>>53859774
>Gabby Spartz is ugly af.
Gaby is alright. Visibly human, definitely female by phenotype, not melanin enriched, not a landwhale, what the fuck more do you need?

>>53859787
>avatar of woe
>AGAIN

>>53859787
>Avatar of Woe
I guessed Avatar of Slaughter, fuck you all I came closest.

>>53857372

I love that Rob Alexander island. I wish I could get it with the older borders.

>>53859813
You don't know AND you want to pretend you are a grizzled oldfag. Ok.

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>>53859787
Lol it's Avatar of Woe.

There is no world where that looks better than this.

>>53859826
More like came ou of the CLOSET

>>53859774

>Gabby Spartz is ugly af.

She looks passable, you must have some insane standards my friend if you consider her ugly.

If you want an ugly mtg player then just look at Melissa DeTorra as she got kinda fat.

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>>53859834

this one's alright too

>>53859834
rk post art is unimpeachable. That being said, I like the human centipede art, it's delightfully creepy.

>>53859826
I was guessing a Massacre Wurm but it's probably too much to want to get a Wurm with hands and body made out of human bodies.

>>53859833
Not him but I just saw the OP meme for the first time and I got it almost immediately. I've only been on since 2005, stop being dumb.

>>53859833
It's from a thread where the retarded pic in the OP thought his garbage deck was at all viable you stupid newfag

Also if you don't know how to search archives with given post numbers you are a literal retard.

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>>53859816
Not being a femlet?

>>53859916
>6' vs 5'10"

>>53859891
I hoped there was a story beyond 'dumb standard player upgrades his deck with Kira and posts it to a Modern thread'

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>>53859913
lol

>>53859925
Kira means you don't even need to spend mana to counter their spells while you rev up that Rev for 15.

>>53859925
If memory serves, it was also a decent amount of time since RTR standard as well (obviously actually, he has a Khans fetch). What's really strange is that you can see a conscious effort to upgrade, using staples such as leak, remand and fetches, so he obviously had some understanding of the format yet still wanted to run 3 mana counters, banned cards and though sphinx's rev was a win con (for x=15 no less)

>>53859916
eh, females are allowed to be on the short side without losing attractiveness. Also, you can barely see it in the coverage so I doubt the hater anon is talking about that.

>>53859995
Short girls love being thrown around, if you get me.

>>53859995
I prefer them tiny

>>53859569
I've been around since forever and whatever the fuck the meme was it was too fucking stupid and/or forced to remember. It's like the Kithkin guy, it's so utterly lacking in effort to piss people off that it's most memorable quality is how sad it was.

So don't worry your head about it.

>>53859983
He likely suddenly discovered that with RtR rotating his UW control was no longer a king of standard nights at his LGS and he now has to shell out another couple hundred $$$ to play. So he decided to upgrade and go modern. Poor bastard.

>>53860024
ok dood.

>>53860028
Ehm you wouldn't feel that way if you saw the thread. He was an obnoxious twat, people started off trying to help him but he was such a arrogant prick he wouldn't little so everybody just ended up taking the piss

>>53860058
Can completely believe that.

Dusk to Dawn in Jeskai Control to combat the Death's shadow. Seems like a thing.

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>>53857372
got a smug bolas out of one of the /b/ drawfags

thank me later

>>53860199
get your money back

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>>53859833
>>53859787
>>53859450
>>53859471
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/40173076/#40177226

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place your bets

this one doesn't look like anything

>>53860308
If it could be a land, I'd say it's Blood Crypt.

>>53860308
choke

>>53860376
Lol imagine getting one of those in your draft deck.

>>53860199
Looks like absolute dogshit.

Songs appropriate or preferred for certain decks.

WB Smallpox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tVTEyuCKn4

>>53857731
That's why I play Esper Spirits.
>Lingering Souls for more spooks that pump MW
>Rattlechains to protect my buds, and also turn my MW from a Force Spike into a Spell Pierce
>Selfless Spirit to protect the threats from wrath
>Spell Queller to protect, disrupt, or flash in before untapping. Eats almost anything, including Supreme Verdict and Abrupt Decay.
>Drogskol to pump the team and turn them into bogles.
>Splash Black to flashback Souls, but also have access to Fatal Push and IoK. Black is best color in Modern right now.

>>53859995

Short girls are better at giving head, mark my words senpai.

>>53860562
So are fatties.
Being good at head is a consolation prize.

>>53857714
Run neither

>>53860058
It wouldn't have been so bad if he hadn't posted in several threads. Even the Mox Opal meme train eventually stopped. This fuck kept going

>>53861054
But Mox is vintage level

What kind of sleeves do you guys use? I've seen lots of debate between dragon shield and ultra pro eclipse

>>53859916
That nigga's 6 foot 8

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>>53861135
Yes, yes. Degeneracy and what not. Well meme'd. Et cetera, et cetera...

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>It ain't fairies starts playing

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>>53861135
This man understands the power of rainbow mox.

Are they just putting boring decks on stream or is modern just all boring decks?

Went 4-0 first half of the GP. Now I'm 5-3. It's the last game of the day and I need this win to go to day 2.

Wish me luck

>>53857630
>seemingly random

grand architect is LITERALLY my nig

>>53857714
TOD doesn't fit your gameplan

The card advantage is very temporary, sure you might get to ult her in a grindy game, but you could say that about any planeswalker

>>53860390
GOAT sideboard

>>53861670
Was this the pilipala combo or some other jank?

t. didn't watch

>>53861807
Not pili-pala combo, it's called Blue Steel

Here's the decklist

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zac-elsiks-blue-steel/?cat=type&sort=price

Peep that Throne.

>>53859787
>>53859834
I still like it tho. Its a solid art direction if you are to abandon the traditional art. Any other kind of human representation would have been overshadowed by the original so iconic it is.

Also am I the only one or is that a very Megaten look?

>>53860554
>That's why I play Esper spirits
So I'm not the only one.

Do you play Phantasmal Image? I assure you, it's possibly the best card in the deck, considering it can be a Queller, Captain or Selffless Spirit on demand.

Also, Metallic Mimic or Anafenza the Spirit-Tree?, I like Anafenza better because she lets you distribute the counters to a degree. Still, legendary type is quite the drawback on a 3-of.

>>53861916
Why wouldn't you just jam Pili-Pala in there instead of Master of Etherium?

>>53862038
not him, but
>cast Ballista for zero
>get damage in with Signal Pest, or 2 w/ Architect paying U

It does feel like a weak link, so I must be missing something.

>>53862084
Even two of them though. Pili-Pala on turn 2, Architect on turn 3, turn 4 win the game with Balista. And that's not even "christmasland" combo because Trinket Mage could come out of the sideboard to help you tutor.

>>53861916
am I retarded? What does this deck do?
I see the Judge's Familiar/Mausoleum Wanderer and Lodestone Golem to force the opponent off curve/behind on mana.
I see ways to make artifacts cheaper by tapping things, and I see a way to cause life loss by having things tapped.
I also see Walking Ballista

This looks like some pauper deck where all the pieces fit, but seems so slow and indirect that it shouldn't work, but does.

>>53862289
You play guys and turn them sideways. You're greatly overthinking this.

>>53862361
Surely something this simple cannot beat the linear algebra class that is Affinity, the only other deck capable of defeating Death's Shadow.

Let's get spicy: post the decks you played and rate them for skill requirements.

>>53862430
storm
need to be able to do complex calculus calculations on the fly

>>53862430
Bogles 0/10. Used to win if interaction didn't happen, and lose otherwise. Now it's slow and just loses.
B/W Tokens 2/10. Knowing how and when to spend mana is literally it. When to flashback, when to Zealous Persecution, when to remove (as usual)

Blue Steel is pretty cheap. I might give it a shot.

>three planeswalkes on board with no hope of removing them
>one dies to creatures, another gets cast

This stream is showing the future of Magic. I hate it.

>>53862430
Every deck in this format except death's shadow is completely brain dead. I guess you need to do some probability calcs in ad nauseum.

>>53862545
planeswalkers were a mistake

>>53862568
They'd be fine if Jace Beleren was still the best of them.

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Well?

>>53862585
Ad Nauseam.

>>53862585
plague wind

>>53862576
Uh.
>card type that is meant to avoid being interacted with, so much so that only creatures are meant to kill them

They were asking for trouble when they decided this was a good idea.
The core design of planeswalkers is flawed.

>>53862585
Death Cloud pls no, that art blows

>>53862600
I feel like plague wind needs to show more than one thing dying.

>it's forbid
>no idea how that's related

>>53862585
It's fucking Forbid lads.

>>53862585
How the FUCK is this Forbid?
I absolutely love the Invocations but this makes no fucking sense

>>53862011
Zealous Persecution is quite handy in this deck.
Blessed Alliance I mainboard because of its versatility. It was originally Azorius Herald, but it was too slow and lacked the defensive capabilities of Blessed Alliance.
Phantasmal Image and Metallic Mimic don't have flash, even with Rattlechains, and I want to play most of my cards on my opponent's turn after Turn 1. Lingering Souls is an exception because it's too good not to have. I would consider experimenting with Midnight Haunting, but I like flashback and using my Black splash more than a lower opportunity cost.
I haven't tried Anafenza because it seems too mana stringent. Zealous Persecution is my only other mana stringent card, but I usually play it after turn 3, which by then I've already got the manabase covered..


Any other songs?

Azorius/Esper Spirits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4joMcCc1jno

Bant Company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5GXbk58R0

Dredge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V90AmXnguw

Mill; Merfolk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2LUglO3eqI

Death's Shadow Jund; Skred Red (if Stormbreath and/or Scourge are played)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbHrdNI7yiY

Turbo Turns; U-Tron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxS8YDjTpeg

Robots (Affinity even though it's more like Metalcraft); RW Prison; Lantern Prison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7418PXRxYk

Lantern Prison; Mill; Rakdos Aggro; 8 Rack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7418PXRxYk

Living End; Sun & Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

>>53862430
Ad Nauseam. 7/10 for spoils version, 5/10 no spoils. While most people could win single games with this deck with a good draw, the deck requires a lot of subtle skills in order to perform consistently well. Knowing when to use spoils of the vault to name things other than ad nauseam will win you a lot of games you'd otherwise lose. Knowing when to pact of negation outside of combo turns or even what the optimal ordering of your cantrips are both important as well. It is also very easy to fall into the "results oriented thinking" trap with this deck, so knowing how to evaluate plays correctly is important.

>>53861932
>Also am I the only one or is that a very Megaten look?
it is somewhat but Megaten is far from the first thing that comes to mind

>>53862430
Burn: 3/10. Easy to pick up and play, but moderately difficult to master. A novice Burn player can easily lose games they should have won because of misplayed spell sequencing or overextending themselves when they should have held back a bit. A fair and simple deck at its core, too.

>>53862554
Well memed friend. "Almost Kill Yourself: the Deck" is SUPER skill intensive.

>>53862430
I cannot give a pseudo-objective number, but UW Spirits can be quite tricky. Some plays are obvious: get down Rattlechains ASAP, and use Selfless or Spell Queller to stop wraths if counterspells aren't handy. Others are a bit more risky, such as whether or not to Vapor Snag (especially if it's your creature), which Spirit to sac, and should I rush to get down Drogskol or should I wait for protection.
I would give the skill level of my deck a 2/5, assuming 3 means average skill, 5 is Lantern Control, 1 is Bogles, and 2 is Burn (I'm not using X/10 because that's too precise).

>>53859884
A lot of the invocation art is really nice, it's the fucking atrocious border that is the problem

>>53863030
Agreed. Hate the font they use for the names as well, impossible to read on some cards.
Why can't they just do fancy full-arts or something like the promos?

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well, /tg/ ?

>>53863256
Kinda looks like a Daze, don't you think?

>>53863256
DEBTS SHADOW

>>53863233
The font was part of the whole Egyptian theme. The 'glyphs and font are supposed to blend. I actually really like that part. But goddamn that huge ass border is atrocious. The beautiful art is so fucking cramped. If they had been textless it would have added the "mystery" of the invocations

>>53863256
Oh no, why'd they have to disrepect Rhonas like that
My nigga didn't deserve this

>>53863480
Face it, all the gods die.
RIP Hazoret, you were too good for this plane

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>>53863472
You can do pseudo-hieroglyphics that aren't fucking captcha text.

>>53863587
If you really can't read that shit, you're either illiterate or dyslexic

>safety-tips-from-anubis.jpg

>>53862430
Grixis Delver: 6/10, has lots of options and you have to know when to go all out. Very fun deck to play.
Eldrazi Tron: 4/10, easy wins with good draws, but you still have to know how to use Chalice, your Thought-Knot Seer, and that's pretty much it. My version doesn't have the Ballistas yet because I'm fucking cheap, but they're a great addition to the deck and add a small layer of complexity to it.

>>53863703
Daze isn't so bad. There are some others that are difficult as fuck to read on a tiny card though, especially for people with less than perfect eye sight.

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>implying the Ixilan 'leak' wasn't intentionally done by Wotc to drum up interest in standard

Planning to build this for fun:

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-96-40-tix-wb-aristocrats-modern

My meta consists of: Combo Elf Bomb (intruder alarm, presence of gond, infinite elf shenanigans), R/U Gift Storm, B/G Flayer Delirium, U/W Isochron Silence, Sraam0's storm, Grixis Delver.

Would this be a playable list? Also, I'll be removing 4xfatal push for 4xpath to exile instead, because I have a playset of Path but no Push.

>>53863842
The message the Ixalan leak gives is "come back in three months", not "play standard this friday". There is no way in hell that it's deliberate.

How does 8 rack handle in modern right now?

>>53863878
more like "hey we know Amonkhet and HOU looks dull and boring, but look at what's coming after that!"

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>>53862430
eldrazi taxes: 5/10 cast thought-knot seer! now do it again!

death & taxes: 8/10 you better know exactly what you're doing or you're gonna have a REALLY bad time.

>>53863917
D&T is literally "play thalia and leonin arbiter and get your free win"

>>53863773
Then buy some fucking glasses, and take a goddamn second to read the card. The fucking name text is even bolded a little to help it stand out a bit. And the rules text is clearly visible so you don't even need to read the name

>>53863944
against ad nauseam, yes. against the rest of the field thalia might as well read 'the first fatal push your opponent casts costs two mana'.
no other creatures list in the format makes you work as hard to find viable lines of play.

>>53863944
different dntfag, you need a lot of knowledge to play dnt correctly. You also just guess wrong sometimes, which isn't true for lots of decks. Lots of decks don't have wrong decisions buuilt into their game plan. Which land to hit, which land to flickerwisp, do I need to flickerwisp on his upkeep or my end step, etc. You need to know the other decks really well, their curve, what to fear from them, etc.

It's easily one of the "harder" decks to play in modern, and its why I chose it. Everything you do is in response to what is in your opponents hand and what his likely draws are and what he's holding, unlike decks that have a proactive gameplan and unlike decks that have a reactive gameplan.

Herp derp arbiter that miraculously doesn't die and 2 ghost quarters is like 1/20 games against good opponents. Every other game is a estimation game and always close. Dnt wins by margins, not blowing someone up like an aggro deck does and not just killing them outright like a combo deck.

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>>53862430
grishoalbrand. 2/3. mulligans are pretty tricky. the tension between vengeance and breach can make looting difficult. sequencing cantrips optimally makes you evaluate how much time you have to assemble a kill. the combo itself is non-deterministic and you make several decisions even while going off.

skred. 1/3. not that many decisions to make. sequencing/utilizing koth and rationing the removal-light hands strike me as the hardest things.

rug delver. 2/3. so many things to keep track of: manage manabase, goyf types, delve fuel, life total, balancing pressure with disruption, how to use limited bolts, etc.

>>53863256
>hinder is hazoret getting locusted to death
>diabolic edict is rhonas getting titaned to death
so what are the other 3 going to be?

>>53866076
*forbid
my mistake

>>53863842
Ixalan just feels like they've given up standard completely and the game is casual focused now. Dinosaurs and pirates, no good cheap creatures or spells, come do nothing for 5 turns then play fatties!

>>53866194
They're appealing to the XD LMAO market. I don't personally think that's a good idea for a business wanting to make long term returns on investment.

>>53866303
Is there anything at all that they could do that you wouldn't whine about?

>>53866655
1. Get rid of their pathetic Avengers clone
2. Stop printing broken cards and pushed mythic rares
3. Get rid of mythic rarity
4. Make commons and uncommons more complex (see: more powerful)
5. Go back to 3 set blocks
6. Start building worlds rather than telling a story through the contrived and agenda based actions of poorly fleshed out characters

Sorry should I be happy that Wizards are printing a 1 card infinite combo in Ixilan, which will inevitably break either Standard or Modern? Modern is already a done deal considering human tribal is a thing. Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant become infinitely sized as soon as Hostage Taker hits the board if there's no responses, and it clears away a blocker. There's likely a thousand more enter/leave related cards it works with that a solid deck can be built around. It's going to be Twin/Copycat all over again.

>>53866794
Right and you've judged them on all those points after seeing some rares only.

Just do everyone a favour and quit.

>>53862430

bogles - 1/10 - pretty much a braindead deck, yet it sometimes tilts opponents so it's worth to play for the salt factor

b/w tokens - 4/10 - there's some lines of play, you must decide when you want to expend your board or when you want to/have to mess opponent's plans

soul sisters - 2/10 - it's a fun deck, but it suffers from the severe case of linear aggro

elves - 11/10 the most complex deck in modern, it expands my consciousness, and it allows me to reach nirvana.

>>53866868
Some rares? All it takes is one card to break a format.

>>53862430
bw titan - 5/10 - protect yourself with discards, smash face with tokens and use lifelink to not fucking die.
uw titan - 6/10 - have to be smart with counters, watch the plains count and smash face with titans
trading post tron - 6/10 - shit deck, but its fun
duskmantle mindcrank - 6/10 - same as above

>>53862430
Budget mono-blue faeries: 5/10
It's mostly aggro with a bunch of counter spells, but it can get tricky when flashing in Spellstutters, Cliques, Scions, Quicklings, and activating manlands. I've only played Modern a few times but I've already had a couple judge calls to see if my plays were legal, so that's cool

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Someone sell me on G-Daddy. I have a big boy job now and am thinking about buying into our lord and savior. Feels like he never goes out of style.

>>53862430
Affinity - 8/10 In this current meta Affinity is pretty hard to play. One wrong play and you lose pretty easily. Fuck sun and moon.

Dredge- 3/10 People still board graveyard hate but honestly it has so many answers now the only thing they can lose to is bad dredges.

Cheeri0's - 0/0 00000000000000000000 Grapeshot

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>>53868292
>grapeshot
>not spicy emrakul wincon

>>53868417
I've thought about adding it, I also have Monastery mentor.

>>53868507
I've never had success with mentor. If he's all I've got it's not enough to win, if I've got a puresteel/sram and it's not being removal I'll win off just that soon enough.
I enjoy playing mentor in legacy bomberman which using uses Mishra's Bauble and 8 other 0 mana artifacts which do more or less the same thing to get lots of mentor triggers.

Can't wait for 5+ Grixis Shadow top 8 and for the following butthurt after the next ban announcement

>twin was so unfair it deserved the ban
>my deck with 1 mana 12/12s on the other hand is a totally fair though

I don't actually want more bans, unbans like SFM could yield the same result without destroying more decks

>>53868824
At least gds is actually interactive and skill testing, I'd rather have that as the best deck than something shitty and brainless like tron

>>53868912
>grixis push snap push
>skill testing

>>53868912
Thanks for the laugh.

>>53868963
I usually play legacy, and have only picked up modern within the last few years, but death's shadow is by far the deck with the most punishing/rewarding lines you can take that I have played. I didn't play enough twin to really feel the deck, and pod may also have been more skill intensive, but right now I can't think of another deck in modern that rewards tight play as much as shadow. It's the deck that feels most like a legacy deck due to the low land count and cheap spells/interaction, and I feel as though legacy as a format rewards skillful play and experience more than modern. I know it's popular to hate the best deck, but saying that shadow is easier to play than shit like tron, burn, dredge, elves, etc. is just wrong.

>>53869085
>tfw have turn 1 chalice on 1 and the opponent doesn't have force to stop me
>I have all the fun while muh skill faggots like you hope to top deck abrupt decay
best feeling

Question for the DnT fags,
I'm running mono white, my 3 drops are currently 4xFlickerwisp 2xBrimaz 2xbigThalia 2xAMC.
Should I drop 2xAMC and go to 1x of bThalia and Brimaz and run 4x displacer?

>>53869170
chalice is a part of the game and I think legacy would be worse off without it. At least legacy has cards like force of will instead of modern where some decks can't do anything about a turn 1/2 chalice/blood moon and just lose on the spot without ever having a chance. Chalice decks aren't even that well positioned right now because everyone is trying to go slightly bigger than the popular delver variants and so are playing more impactful 2/3 mana spells. Plus the decks that play chalice in legacy are generally more interactive than the prison decks in modern (except eldrazi maybe)

>>53857372
So /tg/, I've been wondering lately... what's the oldest World Championships list that's totally Modern legal, and how would it fare in the current metagame?

>>53869264
displacer isn't super good without reliable colorless mana. how much of your colorless mana isn't stapled to a gq or tec edge in mono-white?

ALSO your 3 drops should include minimum two mirran crusaders.
4 wisp
2 crusader
2 3lia
1 brimaz
1 displacer

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>>53870397
woop woop

>>53870359
I'm running 4xGQ 4xTE and 2xSGW so I figured I'm good for colourless.

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>>53870704
>mery defeats the green heretic wescoe with his own deck

>>53870926
Can't watch right now, which version is he running?

They really need to replace the haggard, busted roastie from the coverage. She doesn't have the looks anymore, so she has nothing to contribute.

>>53871431
>hes still talking about it

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>>53870943
mery on mono-white d&t, wescoe on meta g/w coco hatebears. wescoe got destroyed by serra avengers and flickerwisp. it was fucking beautiful.

>>53871431
These are the issues MRAs are concerned with.

>>53871431
She still has tons of white knights though.

>>53871824
>my fucking dick right now

>>53871894
r/magictcg, please fucking go. You're not welcome here.

>>53872182
Its true though. MRAs are mad that women exist and won't date them, take it out on them, then wonder why women won't date them.

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>>53872205
You really are from Reddit, aren't you?

>>53872243
Sorry you are upset that women exist.

>>53872205
>>53872270
>>53871894
whiteknights please go

>>53872297
Sorry we aren't as bitter as you.

>>53872270
I'm sorry that you're so desperate for pussy. In reality, contrary to what your gender studies professors have told you, women aren't actually attracted to your grovelling, pathetic nature.

>>53872327
Honestly, I think you're very bitter and very desperate.

>>53872334
Did I hit a nerve?

>>53872359
>n-no you
Go back to whatever leftist hellhole you came from.

>>53872412
Sorry I disturbed your safespace. I understand that your personal issues make you very emotional over these issues. I'll be more careful next time.

>>53857522

Trains is hard deck. My uncles plays trains and he gets death threat, stay strong.

>>53872243
Mangina white knights BTFO

>>53872297
It's probably just one sad loser.

On a budget of ~$100, should I even bother trying to get into modern, or just play standard for now?

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>>53868220
plan A: draw some cards, draw a LOT of cards, throw lands at face
plan B: slam a hasty 15/15
plan C: chalice and moon your opponent out of the game and go in with spirit apes
Proxy it if those plans appeal to you
You will probably find out quickly that the deck is polar in that it is either making huge plays or doing nothing.
if you find that the bomb plays outweigh the occasional brick on draws or being fairly solitaire combo, build it imo.
one of my favorite things is using splice onto arcane to overload counters

>>53872552
100$ doesn't get you far in modern perhaps mono red 8 wack at best. Standard you can be more competitive for 100 minus things like gideons or other major expensive standard cards

Fuck, I have a big chunk of that Blue Steel deck

I'm probably going to build it for shits and giggles

>>53872552
come back when you at least have $400 or 500.

>>53872604
>>53872805
Fair enough

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D&T 12-0

Anybody have Mary's D&T list? I forgot to screenshot it.

>>53873207
it's pretty stock, dude.

>>53872552
Pretty sure mono red burn can be purchased for around that price anon

Ban howling mine and dictate of cruphix. Stupid ass broken cards.

>>53873548
Shit for 100 bucks you can buy most of Boros Burn and a cheap mana base to go with it

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>>53873643
Lol wut?

>>53873654
a playset of goblin guides and eidolon is like $100

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>>53873643
>ban dictate and mine

I've seen it all.

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>>53873643

Ban quad-sleeving while we're at it, right?

>>53873769
yeah that should be banned too. How the hell am I supposed to riffle shuffle my opponents deck with 4 sleeves?

>>53873769
>Making it harder for your opponent to see what your cards are
I mean, there's definitely some argument to be made about it.

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Looking alright.

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Popped some packs, got excited about counterbalance, then checked the current price post top-ban.
>15 dolla
Oh well. I'm throwing Convergence into enchantress for giggles.

>>53872581
>throw lands at face
...lightning storm?

>>53873911
Borb

>>53873911
Borg enraged

>>53873688
Fair enough
Anon buy "budget burn"
Just buy a playset of spark elemental and hellspark elemental instead of gg and eidolon

>>53874048
He's better off saving his money instead of playing a suboptimal deck.

>>53874048
I only play three eidolons and i'm here to tell you not to play burn without at least two. Goblin guide can be swapped for vexing devil but ash zealot is no eidolon.

>>53873835
gigadrowse next on the ban bloc

>>53862585

This art could have been so good if some actual effort went into it. Look at how lazy the arms and legs are, the lack of any detail whatsoever on the armor. Can we please go back to non-cgi borefest art

Ban Gigadrowse, Chalice, Howling mine, Dictate of cruphix and exhaustion.

No need to thank me for fixing this crap format.

desolation?

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>>53874163

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>>53874163

>>53874163
UNBAN Jace, the Mind Sculptor

So what's going on? Did Ari get raped on stream?

>>53874622
he couldn't handle the opponents deck

literally

>>53873643
Wrong general buddy. EDHGen is a couple threads down.

Did wizards post information about the day 2 meta?

>>53859062
isn't that what a colour commentator does

>>53875033
Cedric Philips doesn't do it.

>>53875069
none of the SCG commentators are good

>>53875145
You didn't get the joke

>>53875163
the only things i know about cedric phillips are he's black, he's part of the old boys club and he works for SCG

>>53875194
Colour commentator
He's black
Faggot

>>53875218
that would be coloured commentator you imbecile

>>53869593
probably some kind of scapeshift without preordain and ponder

>Taking Turns in top 8
But the meta is solved! Nothing can beat DS!

Seriously though, is Taking Turns worth buying into?

God I just know some annoying fuck is going to play this stupid Taking Turns deck at my lgs

>>53877004
No it's a meme.

>>53877048
side board in boil and choke

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>Quadruple sleeved Taking Turns deck

>>53877113
>not quadruple sleeving your deck

What are you, a pleb?

>>53877113
>Not wanting your deck to be E X T R A T H I C C

To the Dredge players out there, how many Life from the Loams do you run? The most common I've seen is 4, but have also seen 2-3.

Any insight would be appreciated.

How good would Boil or Choke be against Grixis Shadow? It looks like it needs blue badly.

>>53877183
I'm running 4 but I'm leaning towards cutting 2 for something else.

>>53877183
Depends on the rest of your deck.

>>53869085
>I usually play legacy
>somehow that makes my opinion relevant

I hate legacyfags

>>53871431
I agree, she's ugly and dumb, a deadly combo.

>>53875477
2004 was the year Mirrodin raped Standard, so the top decks are unplayable either because they ran pre-Modern cards to beat Afffinity or because they abused the shit out of artifact lands.

Can't find 2005-2008 for some reason.

I for one welcome our taking turns overlords. Can't wait to see it win the GP.

>perfect fit
>normal sleeve
>penny sleeve
>character guard
If you want to, run a matte front sleeve and you'd be able to sneak in chinaman proxies easier

Why are the casters on WotC streams so much worse then SCG?

>>53877486
>get deck checked
>judge has to go through 4 sleeves if he suspects a fake
Chinamen can't keep winning like this.

>>53877328
oh are we talking about standard and extended decks that are modern legal

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/event-coverage/decklists-top-8-decks-2005-12-02

some of these decks don't play jitte or top, so there's the answer

>>53877201
What cards are you thinking of adding instead? The only reason I can think of having 4 lifes is conflagrate, but I'm still new.

>>53877220
Might be a dumb question but is there a correlation between 4 lifes and the mana base.

Like fetches = 4 lifes
rainbow lands =2-4?

>>53857504
Should be GW<>, and art a picture of Ajani and Ugin spitroasting NB.

>>53877521
You'd have to quad sleeve, chinaman's fetches are obvious. F A D E D

>>53877607
it depends on what other dredgers you're running and how many conflagrate.

>people were so scared of dredge and living end they forgot about affinity
>the grixis decks got btfo by hatebears

>>53877647
I'll play around with the numbers. Thanks for the help fellow nazis.

>>53877712
I am more than ok with Grixis death shadow with taking a loss because then it'll be off their radars for a ban. I have been burned too many times dammit! (Former Pod, Twin, Infect player)

Asking here because there's no judge thread up:
If, over the course of one main phase, two different abilities resolve that tell you to "skip your next draw step" how many draw steps do you skip? Are they both satisfied once you skip the next one or do they stack?

Hope you guys sold your opals, wotc is definitely going to do something about affinity after this GP.

>>53877913
>ornithopter is kill

>>53877913
they won't do anything

once people starting sideboarding anti-affinity stuff, living end and dredge will rise up again.

It's going to keep alternating and it's retarded

>>53877913
They better not I just got my set. Consider what affinity beat, Turns and hatebears.

>>53877765
But you can still play Infect

>>53877765
As soon as its off the radar, it will dominate. This top 8 is a clear sign of the effects death shadow has on the meta.

>>53877913
Affinity is so easy to hate out though, I don't think it'll warrant a ban

>>53877951
ban them all problem solved

>>53877951
>once people starting sideboarding anti-affinity stuff, living end and dredge will rise up again.

Couple years ago I think I heard LSV(might have been another commentator) say this about affinity in modern. Affinity gets hated it out, people forget about it and focus on the big thread and then affinity creeps in.

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Are they gonna ban mox opal?

>>53878026
Yeah. If Affinity really starts to be feared then it won't put up good results. I can almost guarantee that Affinity won't do well after this GP

>>53878096
yeah, affinity has shown itself to be way too good for modern in terms of consistency. If you have opals sell them now.

>>53878193
Isn't the next ban not until august? Until then, affinity should be underperforming

>>53877978
You're right, but I was getting tired of the deck before the ban and git probe getting the axe was just enough for me. I was just mentioning it to help my cause.
>>53877987
This meta is a clear sign Shadow isn't oppressive.

>>53878230
Its the treasure cruise syndrome. Decks could beat Delver, but the meta wasn't diverse at all and everyone had to dedicate a significant amount of hate to win.

>>53878221
they usually use tourny results though and considering how much affinity dominated this tournament...

>>53878193
>>53878097
Death Shadow will absolutely dominate the next big tournament. Notice how the vast majority of decks in the top 8 had multiple pieces of graveyard hate, yet little artifact hate. People will cut back on the graveyard hate and shadow will dominate.

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>>53878462
Dnt fucking sucks. This is the very definition of variance.

reminder that to counter the shadowspam meta people had to put countercards maindeck, not only sideboard, it is a problem card even if it got hated enough not to put up results.

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>>53878534
>countercards
>shadowspam

>>53878526
it doesn't suck when grixis has no way to deal with your mirran crusader

>>53877498
everything about mtg streams is worse then scg, you might have missed the old female commentator on mtg streams, she was completely mute the whole time unless asked soemthign directly and she was uglyier then the new one too. It is actually getting better.

>>53878580
Yeah I love that Crusader is amazing against Death's Shadow

>>53878526
Except when it has a good matchup against the tier 0.5 deck.

>>53863256
>tfw you feel a glimmer of hope after seeing each new invocation, only to remember that it's stuck inside a yugioh border

I normally hate Affinity, but even I can appreciate an Affinity deck grinding out with Ghirapur Aether Grid

Man that affinity mirror was a real nailbiter

>>53878640
Dnt is not good against shadow. It's like 60/40 in shadow's favor.

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>>53878526
>not dropping a single match over the course of an entire gp
>variance

the word you're looking for is consistency

I took classic jund with 70% proxies to GP Vegas and didn't get caught in the main event or any of the side events.

AMA

>>53878921
post proxies

>>53878944
Villa Zheng proxies.

Im at a bar drinking alone and my cards are back at the hotel, so if you wanna wait 4 hours, sure

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>>53878921
Why didn't you win?

>>53878989
Because I'm bad at magic. Went 5-0 then lost 4 in a row

>>53878609
Not really true, scg most of the times only has one match per round and then plays some old replays while wotc always has a timeshifted backup match. That alone makes it better imo and then there is also some content in between the rounds not just ads like with scg.

>>53878777
>consistency
>can't beat affinity when they mull to 4 post board

>>53879082
mmm, you are actually right, i was only thinking of commentators and scg's are far better imo

>>53879100
>Went 16-1
>Not consistent

>>53879100
I laughed my ass off. What a shit deck.

>>53879115
>lost once
Yeah it's shit

>>53879100
>keeping a one land hand
What a fucking shitshow

>>53879082
MTG has better streams, but it can't hold a candle to SCG's youtube uploads of the event.
I really wish mtg would play some audio during that keep or mull game.

Why the fuck did this guy keep aether vial and stony silence in his hand, with only 1 land? AGAINST AFFINITY.

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>>53879140
A one land hand against Affinity...

>>53879169
to be fair his deck is shit vs affinity, might as well go for it and hope you draw the second land and the stony silence wins you the game, taking the mull didn't really have much better chances(though mulling probably would have won in this case, he didn't know opponent was mulling to 4).

ALso what shitty finals, at least bump it to best of five.

>>53879172
yeah what a choke artist!

>>53879157
fresh bread

>>53879255
fuck this tripshit someone make a new thread

>>53879358
>trip